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We loves our vampires.
by Amy Chasing
Jun 16th, 2009
04:22:48 AM
Can't get enough of them apparently.
A telling sign...
by The McPoyle Clan
Jun 16th, 2009
04:52:14 AM
[crickets]
I think like Medusa the combination of words
by Amy Chasing
Jun 16th, 2009
05:24:22 AM
"New Melrose Place" has turned most talkbackers into stone.

The rest of us voted Cthulu.

Vampire Diaries looks like Twilight the series
by estacado1
Jun 16th, 2009
06:19:56 AM
These vampires in love stories needs to end. We needs vampires that kill shit.
cw = the who gives a shit channel
by palewook
Jun 16th, 2009
06:35:07 AM
good luck to the cw and finding an audience for the lifetime14 crowd.

could give 2 fucks about twilight the series. and it fits perfectly on that unwatchable network.

Save Reaper!
by chrth
Jun 16th, 2009
07:13:17 AM
chrth. reaper is dead.
by palewook
Jun 16th, 2009
07:16:51 AM
none of the sites have covered the story. sam & sock were released from their contracts and abc gave up on pursuing syndication.

show is dead.

CW still got Supernatural.
by Amy Chasing
Jun 16th, 2009
07:29:28 AM
But with the loss of Reaper, that's it.
There's only one show anyone should care about on CW
by turketron_2
Jun 16th, 2009
07:30:46 AM
Toby_FN_Wong already mentioned it in the second post. It's done Vampires, ghosts, zombies, demons, shapeshifters, tricksters, witches, and more!
Then (smirk) CW...
by Kid Z
Jun 16th, 2009
07:34:52 AM
...Does any show on there have, like, more than five viewers?
At least we still have Supernatural..that being said
by Yeti
Jun 16th, 2009
07:48:23 AM
am curious how the Vampire Diaries will play out. The male leads are hot.
chrth
by buffywrestling
Jun 16th, 2009
08:09:48 AM
Reapers creators/showrunners are on Dollhouse now.
WB had nothing to do with Faith show not happening
by submarinevoyage
Jun 16th, 2009
08:16:48 AM
First off, UPN was going to do the Faith show. Second, it's widely known and been acknowledged by people like Whedon and Minear that Eliza Dushku turned down the Faith show and chose to do Tru Calling instead.
the only thing worse than fucking twilight...
by bryan007
Jun 16th, 2009
09:09:12 AM
is a goddamn twilight rip off. Also Stephanie Jacobson sucks!!! I hated her in BSG and Sarah Connor. All she did was bring those shows down
CW airs something other than Smallville? Not in my house it does
by j2talk
Jun 16th, 2009
10:18:47 AM
I actually didn't mind Jesse in Sarah Connor.
by Amy Chasing
Jun 16th, 2009
10:45:30 AM
Being Australian I always find the Australian accent distracting, not fuckin-Bale-distracting, but distracting enough for Jesse's character to be a minor annoyance (she didn't have many lines though), but I think I prefer her to that guy in House and I definitely prefer her to that "Australian" in Eureka. Really Flight Of The Conchords nailed it... it's an evil version of the New Zealand accent.
Ever since the CW cancelled "Veronica Mars"...
by arzbest
Jun 16th, 2009
11:13:56 AM
...I haven't watched a damn thing on their network. Screw 'em.
Dear CW, FUCK YOU!
by JacksParasites
Jun 16th, 2009
11:36:41 AM
Seriously, this fucking is Twilight The Series. And as dull as that piece of shit is, at least it was only 2 hours long. Now they're gonna drag the love story out over seasons? Ugh! Vomit. Sadly though, this will probably become the network's top-rated show because the pre-teen girls love that Twilight shit. Seriously, can't anyone come up with something original to do with vampires? Can vampires only be tortured and brooding high school kids or detectives. Just once I'd like to see a vampire who's just like a chef or a postal employee and that's it.
How the fuck is Sydney back from the dead?!
by Raymar
Jun 16th, 2009
11:38:12 AM
Now, I'm glad to see her and Michael are back but...wtf!
Stephanie Jacobsen has got to stop hanging out w/ girls named Ri
by JacksParasites
Jun 16th, 2009
11:39:37 AM
Seriously.
Stephanie Jacobsen has got to stop hanging out w/ girls named...
by JacksParasites
Jun 16th, 2009
11:40:22 AM
...Riley. Seriously.
The idiots that axed Reaper
by Creative1
Jun 16th, 2009
11:42:36 AM
should by thrown off the roof. They could redeem themselves by giving Ray Wise his on show..."The Devil!" Ray killed in every scene. Just show the Devil tempting people, setting evil into motion and maybe some of his other children. Bring the workbench group back for sweeps.
The idiots that axed Reaper
by Creative1
Jun 16th, 2009
11:42:39 AM
should by thrown off the roof. They could redeem themselves by giving Ray Wise his on show..."The Devil!" Ray killed in every scene. Just show the Devil tempting people, setting evil into motion and maybe some of his other children. Bring the workbench group back for sweeps.
they all look like boring crap
by DrPain
Jun 16th, 2009
11:43:33 AM
and like i'd watch any show with the gay vampires from twilight. Really? The sun does nothing to him?? F.U. I suppose he'll sparkle as well. Long live True Blood!
crazy
by Ryanbraun14
Jun 16th, 2009
11:56:14 AM
this vampire craze is out of hand. I've been re-watching buffy and have realized Faith could never sustain her own show. She is unlikable and her cocky attitude and the way she talks is not compelling enough to have a show devoted to her. A ripper show could work, especially with the way buffy ended. One thing about buffy--whedon has TERRIBLE taste for music. All these bands that play on the show are terrible and are not fitting songs to dance to. However, season one had me wondering why i liked this show so much... but the finale of season three, which is the best season finale ever made, reaffirmed why i fell in love with the show.
Stephanie Jacobson
by Ryanbraun14
Jun 16th, 2009
12:00:40 PM
Stephanie Jacobson is terrible. she is sooooo unlikable and totally over-acts the same tough girl character... she's a one trick pony
Honestly, Buffy did humanize vampires as well
by terry1978
Jun 16th, 2009
12:06:47 PM
So all the talk about them no longer being cool is kinda moot. They were always the romantic, sultry, mysterious types, and Whedon even capitalized on it.
Sorry, Toby. Cancelling Angel was NOT a good thing
by oisin5199
Jun 16th, 2009
01:45:11 PM
No matter how you look at it. Angel's season 6 would have been amazing with LA brought into hell, Wesley all ghost-y, and Gunn vamped. Besides the fact that Supernatural had nothing to do with Angel being cancelled, there's absolutely no comparison between the two shows. Angel worked on a completely different level that Supernatural doesn't even attempt. I like Supernatural, but it's no Angel.
Sorry oisin5199
by MonkeyManReturns
Jun 16th, 2009
01:58:40 PM
Supernatural is no angel - and thank the lordy lord for that. It is better than angel - although the two shows are different. I can never forgive Angel after that stupid muppet show episode.
buffywrestling: I know, but they still might continue the show
by chrth
Jun 16th, 2009
02:05:50 PM
It sounds like there's until 6/30 before the show is dead for good, so there's efforts to save it. See reaperdmv.com for more info.
That Twilight series looks like total ass
by I_am_the_ultimate_product
Jun 16th, 2009
02:19:15 PM
Vampires can go walking around in direct sunlight now? And apparently they have jedi powers too. Hell, they don't even sparkle. Why oh why does this have to be the lead-in for Supernatural? I used to complain about Smallville. Well be careful what you wish for, folks. And that Faith trailer is still cool, Herc.
You're All Wrong
by benjustben
Jun 16th, 2009
02:24:26 PM
I've seen the Vampire Diaries pilot and you will be very surprised to see how good it is. And the girl is completely right for the part.
Vampire Diaries predates Twilight by a decade
by Bellam
Jun 16th, 2009
02:26:38 PM
At least. Really loved the books when I was a kid. Seems like they've kept a lot of the elements true. Except everyone's hair color. Also in the books the town was Fell's Church and was very much a character in itself - the name change seems pointless.

For reference, Diaries was never so emo as Twilight. It was written in a time before feelings were this dread curse suffered by adolescents. Looks like they might have emo'd it up, which is sad. For a tween series (written in a time before 'tweens' actually existed), it was pretty dark and violent. The books also had a lot of petty highschool viciousness like something out of 'Mean Girls'; and a nice mystery stretched out over the first three books. The fourth book was great, too.

The sad thing is they'll probably make it all too pretty and trite. I remember it being harsh and sad, nothing groundbreaking but at least emotionally honest.

Sorry I don't mean to actually care about it but I kind of do. The books were my favorite summer/sick day reads for a good four years.
Also - Secret Circle
by Bellam
Jun 16th, 2009
02:30:55 PM
Another trilogy done by L.J. Smith about witches. Also pirates, kind of. It could translate well into a series.
a vanpire falls in love with a teenager?
by punto
Jun 16th, 2009
02:56:39 PM
that's so original
OK, I'll give this a chance
by There Are Twelve Models
Jun 16th, 2009
04:44:22 PM
I guess I have to consider myself a fan of the Vampire Diaries books since I own them and have reread them many times -- the books have both good and bad points. They are, indisputably, superior to the Twilight series in all respects. Whether the TV series will match up is another question. The preview convinces me they've bothered to faithfully ape some plot elements, which is a good sign, but hasn't shown whether they're taking the characters seriously. Elena particularly was a "queen bee", a strong person and a fighter, something we don't see enough to judge in the trailer. I can forgive all the haircolor changes, character additions and extraneous plot details. Just get the characters right and the central premise -- the love triangle -- will follow.

For the people who keep ragging on Twilight and any other series where vampires are the focus of romance, you must be ignoring twenty years of Dark Shadows on TV and the 1931 Dracula because that shit goes all the way back. Twilight itself is garbage, but give me a fucking break. It's not a fucking end of the world situation if some entertainment is aimed at women. So stop your douchbag whinery pretending like it is and shut the hell up.

True Blood premier highest ratings since The Sopranos
by zooch
Jun 16th, 2009
04:55:42 PM
Put vampires in it and people will watch it.
"Vamp Diaries"
by My Pretty Pony
Jun 16th, 2009
05:03:25 PM
I'll give this show a chance because it's "Supernatural's" lead in. I'm actually hoping that the show is good and that it does well so it can be a worthy companion for SN. "Melrose Place" looks like absolute crap, though. I still can't believe that The CW had an open slot on Friday nights and could've paired "Reaper" w/ "Smallville", but instead chose to give that timeslot to reruns of freaking "Top Model". They also canceled a solid, funny show like "Privileged" (which actually suits their target audience) in favor of crap like "90210" and "Melrose Place" remakes. I think that once "Smallville" and "Supernatural" are over, they'll be in serious trouble and The CW won't last much longer.
I hate this on principle,
by Goody2shoes
Jun 16th, 2009
06:29:58 PM
which sucks because I know I'm gonna watch at least the first episode. I wonder if there's any possible chance of these leads playing against their looks, like the Winchesters on Supernatural. I'm not the girliest girl in the world, but just looking at those vamp-diary dudes makes me feel butch. And I spend way too much time on my hair in the morning for that.
I loved Melrose Place
by Prior Walter
Jun 16th, 2009
07:11:03 PM
When Sydney and Kimberly were on. Stopped once they were killed off. Though Sydney is back, apparently she dies in the first episode and the show is told through flashback. LAME.
@ estacado
by ziah_vaempiir
Jun 16th, 2009
08:26:52 PM
"These vampires in love stories needs to end. We needs vampires that kill shit." Best quote in this thread. LMAO. Btw, I made this handle name 10 years ago. I'm not embarrassed to have it. Vamps need to go back into the closet of subculture.
Walter boy, you're an idiot
by crankyoldguy
Jun 16th, 2009
08:35:49 PM
Melrose Place defined '90s TV KRAP!
and any male who knows all the character's names
by crankyoldguy
Jun 16th, 2009
08:40:44 PM
on Melrose Place is probably a citizen of West Hollywood or the Christopher Street area of the Village in NYC. Not that there's anything wrong with that...yada yada...I just don't know a single straight male who thought Melrose place was watchable, let alone "good." yeesh
When vampires are able to walk around during day...
by TheGhostWhoLurks
Jun 17th, 2009
01:10:15 AM
They completely lose their interest. What's the point, if these immortal, all-powerful monsters AREN'T killing everyone in sight 24/7? What's holding them back from doing whatever the hell they want, whenever they want???

At least with sunlight and the other classic weaknesses, vampires had to be clever to survive and there was an excuse for them not sucking the planet dry or putting every human in servitude. Shows like this or Twilight, though, just make obvious how stupid and lame vampires are minus any serious threat to their existence. They're boring and come across as little more than pansies, tiptoeing through the centuries in fear of the weaklings who they kill on a daily basis.

Really, the concept makes no sense at all. At least Blade was the ONLY Daywalker and hated everything about vampires, explaining why he didn't go to town on humanity. What excuse do the protagonists of Twilight or this lame show have? Their own personal self-control and goodness??? That's like asking a human to refrain from drinking water... see how long your "self-control" will keep you alive.

TVD vamps have tons of weaknesses.
by There Are Twelve Models
Jun 17th, 2009
01:45:31 AM
They just aren't apparent in the preview. Yes, sunlight is one -- it kills them. This becomes extremely important in the books. VD vamps are way more faithful to traditional vampire lore than most recent series, from Anne Rice to anything else. All this carping about vampires without weaknesses does not apply to the Vampire Diaries series and is rooted in ignorance and understandable hatred of the execrable Twilight.

Besides that, poofing into flame at the merest gleam of sunlight is NOT A CLASSIC VAMP WEAKNESS. It was invented by Hollywood sometime in the 50s. Traditionally, and in literature, sunlight did not affect vampires at all except to slightly weaken their evil powers. Coppola's Dracula walks around London midday because it is, get this, faithful to the book.

I think all this criticism goes back to, yet again, the craving for most readers on this site for action packed vampire warriors on motorcycles. Sorry, that's just not the focus of this series. Go watch Terminator 4 if that appeals to you... it's obviously a better fit.

I guess Boone won't be reappearing on Lost this season
by OBESE_WAN_KENOBI
Jun 17th, 2009
08:07:02 AM
Due to the fact that he is on what looks to be the suckiest (pun intended) vampire show I have ever seen.

It's not even that it's a complete Twilight ripoff. It just looks like a REALLY boring show. I mean I had to stop watching the 5 min trailer because it almost put me back to sleep.
vampire books I'd love to see a movie or tv series based on:
by turketron_2
Jun 17th, 2009
09:51:58 AM
The Last Vampire series by Christopher Pike. Read some of those as an adolescent and I remember them being damn good. The people on Amazon seem to agree. The vamps on there weren't all pussified, that's for damn sure!
I miss SCARY vampires
by Nasty In The Pasty
Jun 17th, 2009
10:03:16 AM
God, give me Near Dark any day of the week over this 'tweener emo bullshit.
The Last Vampire by Christopher Pike
by Bellam
Jun 17th, 2009
11:33:11 AM
Great idea turketron_2. That series was pretty amazing - and went in really interesting directions. Lots of Hindu mythology. And bloody as all hell.
that clip was so gay...
by Brannagins Law
Jun 17th, 2009
12:54:00 PM
i just developed a lisp
coming of age Salem's Lot vampire prequel
by Brannagins Law
Jun 17th, 2009
12:55:38 PM
Pike's The Last Vampire
by turketron_2
Jun 17th, 2009
03:07:10 PM
Glad to hear someone else knows of the series, Bellam! I seriously need to either check out the later books from a library or buy them. I think the last one I read was Red Dice... never got around to the final 3 books.

Same goes for The Dark Tower series... Got to Wizard and Glass but have not had a chance to read the last 3 books.

Can't Wait...
by Potch
Jun 17th, 2009
04:55:11 PM
Yeah sorry, I like my cheesy, teen-vampire romance. I read The Vampire Diaries, and they were fun. Thursdays will be a good night... Vampires and Winchesters... doesn't get much better. LOL!
To those comparing it to Twilight...
by Potch
Jun 17th, 2009
04:59:12 PM
Actually, while the Vampire Diaries have a similarity to Twilight, in that it's a romance between a human and a vampire, that is where the similarity ends. These vampires do feed on humans. They aren't necessarily "good". Also, the Vampire Diaries books were released in the 80s, so if anyone ripped off the idea, it was Meyer.
Vamps101 for children, teen girls
by crankyoldguy
Jun 18th, 2009
05:38:27 PM
looks terrible; doesn't matter if its origins are pre-Twilight. and Melrose Place. Again, what straight male cares, really, c'mon? Hell, what gay male cares?
Meanwhile, re-start Dresden Files for GROWN-UPs.
by crankyoldguy
Jun 18th, 2009
05:46:29 PM
You want cool vampire variations, demons, otherworldly creatures, evil spirits, wizards, warlocks and more, plus the genuine human element. Dresden Files. Watch the dozen on Hulu from 2007-2008. Casting was pretty good, too. Though copy Murphy's supposed to be a tiny, tough blonde and reporter Susan a dark-haired Latina, not other-way around somewhat. Also the series suffered from not enough weirdness. A Dresden Files tried again should be more Supernatural or Whedon-stuff hard-boiled detective style. Again, a show from Grown-Ups that Teens -smart ones - can enjoy, too. Funny, outside of a Smallville, which I say is not teen, I hate most teen-slated shows - Gossip Girl crap and the like. Better to shut TV off and read a book. But shows for kidlets - pre-teen and younger, films like that too, I have no problem with and often find mildly amusing in their viewer context.
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