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A Reminder That KINGS
Returns To NBC Saturday!!

First by theGoldbergV	Jun 13th, 2009 05:12:04 AM
And never seen it! What a contribution!
Really by Fisher209	Jun 13th, 2009 05:44:49 AM
Looking forward to catching this...
My request denied... by darthsynn	Jun 13th, 2009 06:36:29 AM
Harry, I asked you to ban morons who type FIRST on these talkbacks. What incentive do you need?
ewg -- Kings is great. by WickedJacob	Jun 13th, 2009 07:04:09 AM
But I won't be watching it. Why bother. Its dead and the DVD will be here soon enough.
Kings is . . . by SkidMarkedUndies	Jun 13th, 2009 07:34:24 AM
one the best shows ever made for television. Too bad America was too busy living their lives on a Sunday night instead of watching it.
Kings??? by SenatorJeffersonSmith	Jun 13th, 2009 07:37:25 AM
I'm sure this was helpful for the 9 people who watch this show. Better Off Ted comes back the 23rd...will there be TB for that?
WickedJacob Johnson is RIGHT!!! by mbeemer	Jun 13th, 2009 08:09:48 AM
It's got Ian Fucking McShane in it, but if they're just blowing the season off, why spend the time?
Of course NBC cancelled it, it was GOOD by Lenny8	Jun 13th, 2009 08:43:56 AM
NBC... it's like Fox, but with less enthusiasm.
This and The Unusuals by elprime	Jun 13th, 2009 09:04:43 AM
Aside from Fringe, which thankfully survived, easily the best two new shows of the year. Yeah, some will call it pretentious and too high-falutin' for it's own good, but damned if it wasn't engaging and intelligent and literary and fun. I will enjoy these seven hours.
Ian McShane Flipping Pancakes... by BigEddieCalzone	Jun 13th, 2009 09:20:25 AM
...contains more emotional tension and sensational acting than most drama on television today. Casting him as the king was a brilliant move. I wish NBC would have stuck by Kings and given it some room to grow. This one deserved sucess more than most.
I'll be watching. Really enjoyed "Kings" so far. by Big Jim	Jun 13th, 2009 09:21:56 AM
elprime, you are right about The Unusuals. The first episode was good enough for me to tune into #2. From there it has just gotten better and better. Loved the "Rear Window" episode a couple of weeks ago. Also got a kick out of Perrineau's character, being obsessed with his age, seeing the number 42 everywhere. I have to think his age being 42 is deliberate; a bit of a shout-out to "Lost" fans who might be watching.
Great show, until.... by kdoc13	Jun 13th, 2009 09:33:03 AM
This show was great, until Macauley Caulkin showed up. Now, not so much.
it was the same thing every week... by JAMF	Jun 13th, 2009 09:37:57 AM
something bad's gonna happen and only the kid has the balls to 'do whats right' i liked it though, better to see something different and interestingon tv than another sitcom or whatever. i hope they kill off david's mum though, hated everything about her since she first opened her mouth. stupid bitch.
Watch Must-See NBC Saturdays! by WillFerret	Jun 13th, 2009 09:43:51 AM
Where we have relegated scripted TV comedy and drama! But watch it while you can! This fall we'll be launching Weekends with Jay Leno, Saturday and Sunday 8-11pm!
rlb by rbottoms	Jun 13th, 2009 10:04:57 AM
"I have to think his age being 42 is deliberate; a bit of a shout-out to "Lost" fans who might be watching." Fuck Lost. The number 42 comes from "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy".
Well, maybe ianmcshane will be free for star trek by nechyv	Jun 13th, 2009 10:14:32 AM
Make that man KOR (from the organian one) mutha fucka, if there was ever anyone to play a Klingon General, its ian mcshane. GIVE THAT MAN A BAT'LETH!
rbottoms by em_tee_em	Jun 13th, 2009 10:36:42 AM
Actually the number 42 existed for many thousands of years before Douglas Adams was born.
42 by rbottoms	Jun 13th, 2009 10:42:29 AM
"Actually the number 42 existed for many thousands of years before Douglas Adams was born." Prove it bub.
Okay, you got me by em_tee_em	Jun 13th, 2009 10:54:25 AM
I can't prove it.
Eamonn Walker and Dylan Baker... by Johnny Smith	Jun 13th, 2009 11:10:54 AM
...aren't mentioned because they're not guest cast, dude. They're regulars.
Wow by _Maltheus_	Jun 13th, 2009 11:24:04 AM
I knew it was coming back for a few episodes, but I didn't realize we'd be getting 7 eps. Sweet! I can't help but wonder how much better this show would have done had they introduced it in the beginning of the fall season. It's easily the best show on NBC, just like TSCC was the best show on Fox, Pushing Daisies was the best show on ABC (well neck to neck with Lost anyway) and Reaper was the best show on the CW. Whoa is TV!
this show was regarded as one of the best by SylarTheCylon	Jun 13th, 2009 11:31:40 AM
North American shows ever produced. European reviews of it described it as tv for people with brains. No wonder it was canceled.
"Prove it bub." by Big Jim	Jun 13th, 2009 11:40:03 AM
From an interview with Socrates in issue #12 of "The Philosopher's Digest": "My favorite number? 42. It used to be 20, but when my buddy Dave... you know, Dave the Hemlock Merchant..., anyway, when my buddy Dave invented numbers beyond what we could count on our fingers and toes, well that really opened up the field of candidates for my favorite number. I settled on 42 because I have discovered it is the answer to life, the Universe, well, in fact, the answer to everything. You heard it here first."
sorry, but had to post again by SylarTheCylon	Jun 13th, 2009 11:44:37 AM
about The Unusuals cancellation mentioned by elprime. What a shame about that one, it was getting better and better, the cast was brilliant. They really need to start measuring the number of viewers by other means, cause I'm sure lots of people download the episodes illegally. I'm in Chile ffs, and I really wouldn't mind downloading tv series with ads in them! There is such an untapped potential, cause it's not like they really have a clue as to just how many millions of people download tv shows. Maybe they had a hit show on their hands, but they never knew about it...
I watched every episode of The Unusuals by growltiger	Jun 13th, 2009 12:53:30 PM
And for that I cannot offer enough apologies. It was a terrible drama. Ludicrous! I hung in there because it was like watching a train wreck unfold. However, I liked most of the actors; the female lead brought nothing to the party. Maybe if they had gone all in with the "unusualness" and blew off any silly attempt at police procedure. Because that part sunk the show in my opinion.
Goldsman's directing debut? by XAOS	Jun 13th, 2009 01:17:45 PM
What about the episode of Fringe he directed? Unless this was done first and has been sitting in the can since before he did that episode.
XAOS by Johnny Smith	Jun 13th, 2009 01:38:58 PM
That's exactly what happened. Kings had already wrapped shooting by the time Goldsman shot his first Fringe.
XAOS by Johnny Smith	Jun 13th, 2009 01:38:59 PM
That's exactly what happened. Kings had already wrapped shooting by the time Goldsman shot his first Fringe.
The summer tv drought by ThrowMeTheIdol	Jun 13th, 2009 03:05:35 PM
How can the networks complain about losing people to cable when they don't even try for 3 and a half months of the year? Anyway... thanks for the headsup about Kings, Herc.
Johnny Cakes! by NoPIX	Jun 13th, 2009 05:11:19 PM
The King loves 'em!
The chick who played the daughter by Itchy	Jun 13th, 2009 06:13:14 PM
of King Silas gave me a chubby. Me likey !
BigEddieCalzone by codymr	Jun 13th, 2009 06:32:59 PM
"Ian McShane Flipping Pancakes contains more emotional tension and sensational acting than most drama on television today." LMAO... very very true!
Jamf's description WHY this failed is dead on... by Big Dumb Ape	Jun 13th, 2009 07:54:21 PM
Jamf above said: "It was the same thing every week. Something bad's gonna happen and only the kid has the balls to do whats right." That's spot on and maybe the final 7 episodes expand things a bit, but in the end KINGS suffered from the same disease that too many shows do -- they start off being too pedestrian and repeating the same themes or ideas over and over and over again, as if to say "Hey, look! THIS is what the characters are like and THIS is what you can count on if you keep watching us!"...but then it just seems TOO repetitive and you lose interest. Frankly, KINGS lost me around episode 3 when I realized the same thing Jamf said above. Interesting try at a TV show, but just seems like a case where they tried to do something a bit more literate or classy, but then over-thought the thing and proceeded to beat it with a dead horse, which ultimately made the show dull.
How could they have canceled this? by AdamDiran	Jun 14th, 2009 05:10:08 AM
Just watched tonights episode... This should have been made on HBO. It was truly outstanding television.
GREAT episode. by polyh3dron	Jun 14th, 2009 05:16:45 AM
One of the best episodes so far, and it is in good company with Journeyman, Black Donnellys, Surface and Studio 60 as shows that were too good for that shitty network.
Man vs Cartoon, greatest show ever by Moviegimp	Jun 14th, 2009 10:41:18 AM
Hey Herc, why didn't you give us a heads up on this show? If you guys missed it there is this new show that started last night on Tru-Tv called Man vs Cartoon. They take engineering students and challenge them to make the Roadrunner traps of Wile E Coyote for real. Last night they made a Rude Goldberg trap that included a slingshot to a water can to a fast growing flower (they actually made it work) to an igniter to a shoe to a seesaw, release a mouse, take the cheese, drop the weight, pull the roap, fire the gun and ignite the cannon to kill the Roadrunner. Every week they are going to explore the other traps, rocket skates, battyman costume, giant rocks falling on the bird. I can't believe someone is actually doing this! This show is so cool. It will probably only be one season considering the number of traps but who cares, it's awesome.
Kings was cancelled by Tin Snoman	Jun 14th, 2009 12:54:55 PM
for being too classy.
Tobias "I'll Shit On Your Face, Bitch!" Beecher: by JAMF	Jun 14th, 2009 02:12:14 PM
Neccessary precautions. Measures already taken to prevent further contamination should the worst, not yet confirmed - nor expected to be so - BE SO! i cant believe this show is cancelled, great old timey dialogue. shame this ep was about 'david' being a hero yet again. he's pals with the prince now is he? so now the only villain in the show is doc connors.
NBC should not wonder why it fails. by AbsoluteTruth	Jun 14th, 2009 09:09:02 PM
Kings is probably the most intelligently written show on NBC. Period. Why did they feel the need to announce a cancellation the way they did? It pisses me off to no end....I LOVE this show. I know there are a few over the top moments, but hell, even Lost has those, and thats probly the greatest show ever. I WANT MORE KINGS
and cancelled again.. by Don Lockwood	Jun 14th, 2009 09:10:53 PM
NBC is pulling the rest of the episodes because the one that aired this week got a 0.3 rating. That's not a typo, kids.
0.3 demo? by elprime	Jun 14th, 2009 10:24:06 PM
That's just frightening. Ok, first real nice weekend (at least in this neck) of the summer, 8 PM on a Saturday, but still. And yet anywhere from 4 to 6 million people a day - A DAY - will watch TWO HOURS of I'm a Fucking Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here? I think I'm gonna throw up.
The great failiure of Kings by David Cloverfield	Jun 15th, 2009 03:19:12 AM
is pretty depressing. It was intelligent, well acted and refreshing. Loved the little touches (Sheppard is the seventh son of a seventh son, the divine interventions, PLAGUE! etc). I just hope we'll get the remaining episodes on DVD soon.
Bad Title, Bad Subject-Matter? by ThusSpakeSpymunk	Jun 15th, 2009 08:30:49 AM
That'll kill a show pretty good. KINGS, from the perspective of the average US viewer, was that there show about the Middle East, where there was a soldier who started working for the bad guys by helping a king of a Middle Eastern country during wartime. Yeah, that's something the HEE HAW crowd want to watch. .3 rating. Yeah.
It's not an 8:00 pm show! by Big Jim	Jun 15th, 2009 08:50:45 AM
It's not meant for kids. Should have been on at 9:00 or even 10:00. Instead, NBC aired reruns of L&O at 9:00 (although the Buffalo NBC affiliate had an infomercial then) and SVU at 10:00. If NBC pulls it it will simply reinforce the notion that it is not worth the viewers' time to watch intelligent, serialized drama on network television. Why bother investing one's time in a show that won't have aired all filmed episodes, let alone get a second season, or even a full first one? Of course it got crap ratings. It is 8:00 on a Saturday night in June. The sun was still up. Isn't the whole reasons networks traditionally shy away from scripted shows from June through August is for that very reason? No one is home to watch! WTF are they going to replace it with? Weekly recaps of "I'm A Pseudo-Celebrity, Pay Attention To Me"? Egads! At least we can count on ABC to honor their burn-offs - Eli Stone next Saturday at 10:00.
That 0.3 is for the 18-49 demo by Big Jim	Jun 15th, 2009 09:19:36 AM
And it's not as bad as it seems when looking at the night overall. The top show was a rerun of Cops on Fox, which got only a 1.2; ABC's Haunted Mansion, and CBS' Without a Trace got 0.6 and 0.5, respectively. Nice to see ABC's number went up for Pushing Daisies (0.7).
Man, I fucking LOVE this show! by Felix_Happer	Jun 15th, 2009 03:57:38 PM
It's 10x the show Southland is. Sorry to see NBC ass rape it.
Kings and Klingons by Karuma	Jun 15th, 2009 04:51:26 PM
I liked the idea of this show a lot better than the real thing. If you go back to promos for the series in the spring it is very evident they weren't being truthful about what the show was about. All the promos gave you the impression that this was a story about the King of America. Would that it were. I would have liked it better as a series about an alternative universe where America broke away from Britain and instituted a monarchy instead of a democracy and Ian McShane was a descendant of the Washington family (since George didn't have any biological children).
Biblical allegory/soap-opera by YackBacker	Jul 11th, 2009 04:18:17 PM
McShane made this show worthwhile. Everything else varied from adequate to mildly interesting. Let's not overdo our praise for this material- it was innovative in small ways (it wasn't a cop show, woohoo!) but its conceits about "destiny", etc. reminded me of a very different show- JACK AND BOBBY. As Karuma says above, there was an opportunity here to be really inventive, but they stuck to David and Goliath a little too much.

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