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Martin Scorsese Goes B-Movie Crazy In Brand New SHUTTER ISLAND Trailer!!!

first? by Sardonic	Jun 10th, 2009 08:21:46 PM

Second? by Pig_Ignorant	Jun 10th, 2009 08:26:53 PM

yo by bilbo78	Jun 10th, 2009 08:27:26 PM
yo
I don't know... by wampa 1	Jun 10th, 2009 08:30:14 PM
...but it sure smells good!
Looks good by Osiris3657	Jun 10th, 2009 08:30:15 PM
I've read half the novel so far, seems to stay true to the source.
looks surreal by Kief_Ledger	Jun 10th, 2009 08:33:06 PM
which is a good thing.
Hard at Work by HideousSecretion	Jun 10th, 2009 08:35:23 PM
"Hey, I'm essentially useless so I'll post something from the Apple sight that you probably already found on your own thus proving I'm the vestigial tail of AICN." Can we do better than trailers and news from other sites? The AICN crew use to be fanboy scoundrels who hunted down scoops. Now its all insider gossip and stale news. Anyway, Scorcese needs to get back on coke and make more mob movies.
The book by ZooTrain	Jun 10th, 2009 08:36:25 PM
The book was good, not as good as Mystic River or the Kenzie/Gennaro stuff...but entertaining enough. I'll see this, but I want a better rendering of the Kenzie/Gennaro novels than what Gone, Baby, Gone gave us.
Yes please. And now. by Stuntcock Mike	Jun 10th, 2009 08:37:52 PM
I've been waiting for this film.
Major Spoilers In This Trailer by Mr.Stiggs	Jun 10th, 2009 08:38:43 PM
Once again we are subjected to a trailer that gives away almost every plot point and "surprise" twist. Avoid it if you want to stay spoiler-free. You've been warned...
Michelle Williams makes me happy in ze pants. by Stuntcock Mike	Jun 10th, 2009 08:38:45 PM

Looks Good... by BoggyCreekBeast	Jun 10th, 2009 08:41:58 PM
Will be seeing this one.
...And Yes... by ZooTrain	Jun 10th, 2009 08:42:34 PM
The trailer is kind of spoiler-heavy.
Not a reboot re imaging prequel sequel by Trannyformers_Apologist	Jun 10th, 2009 08:45:07 PM
WHAT?......This not a reboot, re-imagining, prequel, sequel, base off a comic book, anime, children's toy or bubble gum wrapper character AWWWWWWW HEEELLLL NAW epic fail... this will never compete with Paul Blart. They should have got Bay or Abrams to make this.
Scorcese directing DiCaprio by pr0g2west	Jun 10th, 2009 08:49:32 PM

by pr0g2west	Jun 10th, 2009 08:50:11 PM
...Always a good thing.
Shutter Island was very dissapointing by JackieJokeman	Jun 10th, 2009 08:50:32 PM
I saw the twist from the beginning and spent the rest of the book hoping I was wrong.
ruffalo has zero charisma by TheExterminator	Jun 10th, 2009 08:57:49 PM

looks damn good! by THE KNIGHT	Jun 10th, 2009 09:00:20 PM
versatile marty!
Looks like a great time. Cool shit. by JuanSanchez	Jun 10th, 2009 09:04:42 PM

been waiting for this by RipleyGrady	Jun 10th, 2009 09:04:59 PM
I have not read the book or anything, but I've been intrigued by this ever since I heard about it. Leo's casting was a big surprise, but besides that it seems the subject matter is at the very least an interesting combination for Scorsese. I have high hopes for her...although that has rarely paid off before.
Looks like he'sjust having fun with this one by Larry of Arabia	Jun 10th, 2009 09:05:49 PM
Other than music documentary films almost everything is very serious or dark in humor (the brilliant nightmare comedy "After Hours," for example). This isn't lowering yourself for a somewhat cliche B movie, it's a great director deciding to have fun with a somewhat cliche B movie. It'll be the best shot, edited, and acted cliche B movie you've ever seen, too.
looks interesting by CherryValance	Jun 10th, 2009 09:07:04 PM
and that's a word I almost never use about Scorcese movies. They're usually pretty blah as far as I'm concerned. I hope it's not just the trailer.
is this like a sequel to harper's island by RaveX	Jun 10th, 2009 09:10:49 PM
or a remake?
The book... by Kusoyaro	Jun 10th, 2009 09:11:49 PM
...was a piece of shit. Just sayin'. I read it and wondered what Scorsese could possibly want to do with it.
scorsese/leo>>>scott/crowe by Six Demon Bag	Jun 10th, 2009 09:14:39 PM
this actually looks good..keep up the good work marty.
Holy shit Michelle looks entirely fuckable in this! by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Jun 10th, 2009 09:14:47 PM

Lehane is a one-note miserablist writer by criticalbliss	Jun 10th, 2009 09:19:08 PM
Hate to say it, but it's true. Still, Scorcese has the ability to transcend the source material much of the time (even if The Departed was overrated--mainly because the ending was bullshit).
Why cant other book adaptations be this good. by Dr. Samuel Loomis	Jun 10th, 2009 09:19:12 PM
Anything that Lehane writes in novel form that becomes a movie is superb. I have nothing bad to say about Mystic River, absolutely nothing bad to say about Gone Baby Gone. Keep writing Lehane, so we can see good films from now on.
Psh. What an uneducated fuckin hack. by Dr. Samuel Loomis	Jun 10th, 2009 09:20:00 PM

Terrible book... by DonRivella	Jun 10th, 2009 09:22:22 PM
@JackieJokeman: I felt exactly the same, hoping in vain that the twist can't possibly be that lame. Lehane's other books are excellent, this made Shutter Island even more disappointing.
I'm pretty sure I can guess the twist... by HoffmanPasander	Jun 10th, 2009 09:22:53 PM
... and I haven't read the book or anything.
looks great!! by quamb	Jun 10th, 2009 09:25:29 PM
haven't read the book so can't wait to sit back and watch a good story unravel - something which seems to be a rarity in hollywood recently.
I will avoid spoilers nonetheless... by HoffmanPasander	Jun 10th, 2009 09:27:34 PM
Hoping that it's not a Sixth Sense/The Others type thing.
Decent Book, Looking Forward to this by Crow3711	Jun 10th, 2009 09:34:17 PM
Not the best book I've ever read, but it has a decent enough story, and even though I felt like I should have caught the twist earlier than I did, it was still fun enough. Only read it because I heard Scorsese was adapting, but still. Great trailer, very faithful to the book. Very much anticipating this.
So she's offering a hand........ by Aloy	Jun 10th, 2009 09:34:41 PM
Haven't read the book but since there's an insane murderess I suppose she's saying "go ahead you can trust me give me your hand (sucker)"
In Robert Richardson I trust. by The_Genteel_Gentile	Jun 10th, 2009 09:37:53 PM
My favorite cinematographer ever! Snow Falling On Cedars is the most stunningly beautiful film I've ever had the fortune to set my gaze upon, oh how I wish he'd reunite with Scott Hicks again. I'd go see this just for the Richardson, even if Lee Tamahori was the director, But Scorsese...I'm there no questions asked (Although how awesome would Adrian Lyne have been? Pretty darn, I think.). Now Oliver Stone get your act together and bring on Pinkville already!
nice supporting cast by VictorNewman	Jun 10th, 2009 09:50:59 PM
Kingsley, Von Sydow, Ted Levine...I'll have to check it out
Looks Great by veritasses	Jun 10th, 2009 09:55:01 PM

Cabinet Of Dr Caligari 2000 by MetalMickey	Jun 10th, 2009 09:56:22 PM
The twist is pretty obvious. Pass.
The shocking twist... by The Dum Guy	Jun 10th, 2009 10:07:36 PM
Bruce Willis was dead the whole time and he's a ghost!
"Leo's casting was a big surprise" by Prior Walter	Jun 10th, 2009 10:08:37 PM
Yeah, DiCaprio in a Scorcese movie?!?! Who can believe it?
Mr. S is obviously having fun, I intend to join him. by theglimp	Jun 10th, 2009 10:23:07 PM
Seriously, love or hate his last ten years, but the guy is making the most wonderful, watchable flicks these days. also, finally just joined after years of reading talkbacks, so hello all :)
Yeah, there IS a big Cape Fear feel to this by Nasty In The Pasty	Jun 10th, 2009 10:29:04 PM
Which is great. Some critics sniffed that Scorsese was somehow "slumming" with that movie, but, dammit, MORE "B" movies should be as brilliantly shot, edited, scored and performed as that film was. Shutter Island looks grrrrrrrrrrrreat.
fantastic, Cape Fear meets Cuckoo's Nest by pipergates	Jun 10th, 2009 10:43:14 PM
BUT THE DAMN TRAILER GIVES AWAY WAY TOO MUCH!SHIT FOR BRAINS TRAILER-MAKERS!
The Road trailer is up too by Dataset	Jun 10th, 2009 10:43:19 PM
Just sayin'
I'll see anything Scorsese makes. by mraig	Jun 10th, 2009 10:43:21 PM
Normally I would have zero interest in a movie like this (doesn't one come out every week?) but even if it's a generic thriller/horror story, Marty'll make it interesting. I just re-watched The Departed on Blu-Ray this weekend and I can't get over how impressive that film is visually and aurally--he knows how to frame and light a shot, and he knows what music to have going in the background. For him to have been in the business as long as he has and still be making films worth talking about is truly impressive. They don't all hit it out of the ballpark, but they're all at least worth seeing and discussing.
I love trailers that show the whole movie by Riley Martin	Jun 10th, 2009 10:59:34 PM
Just love em. Anyone who is reading this who is in charge of cutting trailers - google 'alien trailer 1979'....watch the first one and learn, you Gen Y music video loving fuckwads.
It looks great but the book/plot is overrated. by aversiontherapy2	Jun 10th, 2009 11:16:25 PM

Now THAT looks good! by Turd Furgeson	Jun 10th, 2009 11:27:01 PM
Oof that looks like a good movie.. With this and "The Road", fall is going to be a good time for film!
martin scorsese's gothika by slappy jones	Jun 10th, 2009 11:32:12 PM

cape fear was fucking awesome. by iwasredempted	Jun 10th, 2009 11:36:14 PM
i like it when scorsese slums or just has fun. he is fucking brilliant. pure film making. and i love the time period it takes place in. i have one wish before i die. which is for martin scorsese to make a western. if he made a western that is scorsese running on all cylinders, i believe hollywood could just stop making movies period. there would me no point after that. tell me i'm wrong.
This must be "one for them" by Redmond	Jun 10th, 2009 11:41:26 PM
Doesn't look like a Scorsese movie at all, except for the polished professional sheen and the great visuals. Does the plot remind anyone of "The Wicker Man"?
Boy that synopsis doesn't sound Scorsese-esque at all by D.Vader	Jun 10th, 2009 11:45:26 PM
Which is AWESOME, by the way.
Looks great! by Tacoloft	Jun 10th, 2009 11:46:15 PM
Will be seeing this upon release.
Wickid! by Super Rabbi	Jun 11th, 2009 12:01:31 AM

Only saw the screencap... by Kid Idioteque	Jun 11th, 2009 12:03:19 AM
and I immediately thought of Cape Fear... which I really enjoyed. Count me in for this.
Surprisingly little Ruffalo in that trailer. by idonotseekabanning	Jun 11th, 2009 12:09:40 AM
What, does he get killed off in the first ten minutes or something?
Big budget scary movies by Series7	Jun 11th, 2009 12:37:19 AM
Never work. This looks like The Haunted and 1408, both sucked. They look just too glossy and nice.
I can't wait to get back home to sort through this trailer frame by GQtaste	Jun 11th, 2009 12:49:38 AM
and again. The folks that write for this site are really depressing. Sadly you do probably have enough time on your hands to watch a f'ing trailer countless times. How old are you dude? b/c if you're over the age of 17 then you're too old to being doing that type of shit. I realize your nothing but a bunch of dipshits but come on, lay off film from time to time. Attempt to get some pussy every once in a while. At least try new endeavors a few times a year.
Its clearly Hichcock influenced, that is enough for me. Looks gr by fisheater	Jun 11th, 2009 12:55:02 AM

This looks nice, but... by seppukudkurosawa	Jun 11th, 2009 12:59:34 AM
whatever happened to his George Harrison doc? That's something I'd love to see.
That looks so good! by viola123	Jun 11th, 2009 01:00:17 AM
Gosh, that looks good. I got the Hitchcock vibe too. Leo! I'm afraid for his character. I can't wait to see this!
Frame By Frame by Rebeck2	Jun 11th, 2009 01:00:40 AM
At 1:41, that great character actor, Elias Koteas, sitting with blood on his face. When I first saw him I thought it was DeNiro in a surprise cameo.
revealing that there even is a twist... by smackfu	Jun 11th, 2009 01:02:46 AM
is completely spoiling the film for anyone who isn't legally retarded.
GQtaste by Hellbastardo	Jun 11th, 2009 01:03:32 AM
Sadly you apparently like to waste your time being a douche bag
DiCaprio's acting on the roof in The Departed... by DanielKurland	Jun 11th, 2009 01:07:13 AM
Is so, so fantastic. Perfectly raw. I love Scorsese's Cape Fear, and can't wait for this.
Tru dat, smackfu by Rebeck2	Jun 11th, 2009 01:08:02 AM
Because we all know that when a story takes place around an insane asylum...things are...not...as...they seem. See: The Ninth Configuration.
Scorsese is an absolute PIMP by Bruce of all Trades	Jun 11th, 2009 01:30:31 AM

Robert DeNiro in Cape Fear = AWESOME by Ribbons	Jun 11th, 2009 01:47:16 AM
Such a great character and performance that generally gets overlooked in his body of work.
damn spoiler you.. by too_much_disko	Jun 11th, 2009 01:55:59 AM
seen the trailer = seen the film
Half of De Niro's performance in CAPE FEAR is good by caruso_stalker217	Jun 11th, 2009 02:13:11 AM
The other half is him yelling a bunch of fuckin' gibberish with his face looking like a pizza.
What!? by Ribbons	Jun 11th, 2009 02:15:58 AM
Don't make me go OLEG on your ass, caruso!
was that Phil Spector shushing me? by BadMrWonka	Jun 11th, 2009 02:48:44 AM
how dare he?!
Cape Fear is one of the worst Scorsese films by Mr Gorilla	Jun 11th, 2009 03:37:36 AM
it's just nasty
Great stuff, but that trailer gives way too much away by KillaKane	Jun 11th, 2009 03:38:23 AM
Good cast Scorsese's assembled there, looking forward to this.
The scene with De Niro and Juliette Lewis... by caruso_stalker217	Jun 11th, 2009 03:46:36 AM
...is fucking perfection. The rest of the film has its ups and downs. Like I don't know if this is supposed to be a serious movie or a fucking spoof. The entire houseboat climax is ridiculous. And Herrmann's music feels totally out of place.
"martin scorsese's gothika" by tonguestubble	Jun 11th, 2009 03:53:24 AM
i second this theory
The one I'm looking forward to most this year by zapano	Jun 11th, 2009 04:55:53 AM
I like the hitchcock, powell and pressberger feel to it. it looks heavily psychological I would defnitely not consider this a "one for them". Whereas his last two films were definitely made for Hollywood i suspect this is going to be scorsese's best in a long long time
looking good. by barnaby jones	Jun 11th, 2009 05:15:17 AM
yet somehow that trailer layed it all out, seems somewhat predictable.
B-movie? by The Amazing G	Jun 11th, 2009 05:17:24 AM
what on earth about this movie screams "B-movie"? sorry but I don't get it....
Under my radar by Chariowalda_Barbarossa	Jun 11th, 2009 05:30:32 AM
till now. Damn, that's looking promising.
Trailer = You've seen the whole film by MontyPigeon	Jun 11th, 2009 05:45:39 AM
Looked quite good though, pity they told us almost everything.
The book is fucking retarded by Laserhead	Jun 11th, 2009 06:45:19 AM
Most obvious, telegraphed "big twist" ever.
That's some dodgy CGI by BenBraddock	Jun 11th, 2009 07:18:15 AM
Ugh. And sorry, but spray-on stubble or not, I still can't take DeCaprio seriously, watching him always feels like watching a kid playing at grown-ups, somehow. Otherwise, the trailer had some nice shots but didn't get me salivating. My jury is still out on this one
slashfilm comment causes shitstorm!!! by CHUDfucker	Jun 11th, 2009 07:23:26 AM
checkout what this poor bastard wrote: "The Wicker Man + Shock Corridor + 1408 = Martin Scorsese's last film. This must stop now. DiCraprio's catalog of horrible accents and facial hair have made him the Lon Chaney of shit sandwiches. The rest of the cast and the cinematography does look great, but that doesn't make me want to see this film. Especially when we get another trailer showing the whole fucking thing! All this trailer was missing was flash-cuts to black and a heartbeat, but even then it would have no soul behind it. Please Marty, stop casting Leotardo or I will burn every "picture" of yours I own with the exceptions of Taxi Driver and Bringing Out The Dead. Not out of respect for you, but for Paul Schrader's writing. You are nothing without his voice and you have lost your fucking mind." Ouch, but he's got a point.
Creepy, somewhat kooky even by SoylentMean	Jun 11th, 2009 07:38:23 AM
Scorsese does Horror? Nice. If you don't think early to mid-twentieth century insane asylums are creepy then you, sir or madam, are one of the fuckin' patients.
Jackie The Jokeman by salinacj	Jun 11th, 2009 07:58:19 AM
Did you really see it from the beginning?? Really?? Wow!!! You are totally awesome!!!! Can I be your friend????????????? Please?!?!?!?!?
Max Von Sydow - Awesome! Is this a Ninth Configuration? by LaneMyersClassic	Jun 11th, 2009 08:05:32 AM
I automatically thought of the Ninth Configuration when I saw the trailer. I hope not, because then I already know the major spoiler. Great to see Max Von Sydow still working. Wow, from The Virgin Spring to this - Amazing!!
All you spoiler-obsessed people by Bruce of all Trades	Jun 11th, 2009 08:10:48 AM
...need to get your shit together. Seriously, having not read the book, I wasn't spoiled at all. All I understood from the trailer was that Di Caprio and Ruffalo or on the island investing that chick's disappearance, something goes wrong and Leo can't leave the island and starts losing his mind. It's obvious there's a twist, and I've had one or two theories about it, but to someone who hasn't read the book, that trailer doesn't spoil the entire movie in any way.
The twist I won't spoil by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead	Jun 11th, 2009 08:14:35 AM
I read the book and guessed the twist about 50-100 pages in. The rest of the time reading the book, all I could think was, no, don;t do it, it's stupid and predictable and betrays the story. The twist sucks and this trailer gives away A LOT!!!!!!! However, Scoses and DiCaprio are just one step down from Scorsese and DeNiro. I will go see it because uit will be an incredible movie. Just be forewarned the ending sucks!!! ***SPOILER WARNING**** LaneMyersClassic, the Ninth Configuration, good movie, stupid twist at the end, know what I mean?
Cape Fear is one of my S. faves! by fassbinder79	Jun 11th, 2009 08:15:09 AM

This movie seems to be a conundrum. by Juggernaut125	Jun 11th, 2009 08:17:21 AM
A horrible story told by an expert story-teller. I have not read the book but the trailer has a lot to say (as has already been mentioned above, it shows too much information). The whole 'doctors messing with the detective's head', hallucintions, 'suspect-with-a-heart-of-gold' , everything seems a bit too cliché.
Dance, since you know both, am I right in my guess? by LaneMyersClassic	Jun 11th, 2009 08:34:15 AM
Also, I don't believe it's exactly like "Ninth," because that movie had a broader political message, whereas this one looks like a more narrow, personal story. I was just referring to the setting and the "twist".
WHY ARE TRAILERS SO SPOILERIFIC? FFS >. by couP	Jun 11th, 2009 08:55:10 AM

Not The Best Lehane by WhoWha	Jun 11th, 2009 09:29:25 AM
This book is not the best that Lehane has to offer. The twist at the end comes as no surprise and I am sure most of you have all ready figured it out. Basically, this will be yet another film where we get to watch DiCaprio try to act and accomplish nothing but looking like he is trying to take a really big shit for two hours. That's how I felt watching him in The Departed (what an overrated film); that he was either trying to force out the biggest turd ever recorded in human history, ir was about to have a heart attack.
dancetothebeatofthelivingdead by JonQuixote	Jun 11th, 2009 09:31:49 AM
Is 100% right. Lehane's worst book, backed by a gimmick that couldn't support a decent short story. I love Lehane, but I'm disappointed to no end that this is the novel of his that gets the Scorsese/DiCaprio treatment.
DiCaprio is a fucking MOOK by hatespeech	Jun 11th, 2009 09:31:58 AM
quit putting this fuckhead in movies.
The problem with Cape Fear... by Neosamurai85	Jun 11th, 2009 09:54:08 AM
is that it's a remake of Cape Fear. It's a good movie, but it's a remake of a damn near perfect film with a far more contained and scary as hell performance than the tongues screaming Robert of Martin's (think remaking Alien now with CGI, or No Country for Old Men with an over caffeinated Ray Liotta style Anton a few years from now). Highly recommend the original if you haven't seen it, it's not justa b-movie, it's a fucking intense ride of a film that had me on edge like I was watching Deliverance. It might make you hate the remake, however. It damn near did in my case. But still, Martin's Cape has its merits, but that's the real problem with it above all others.
Should Be Good by snaps_provolone	Jun 11th, 2009 09:59:09 AM
These are the Scorsese films I've seen: Taxi Driver/Raging Bull/Goodfellas/"parts of Cape Fear"/Casino/"parts of Bringing Out the Dead"/Gangs of New York/The Aviator/The Departed. I at least liked them all, so this should be no exception. It definitely looks good. It's nice that Scorsese is kind of doing a 180 after winning the Oscar (in the sense of doing something different). I'm hearing all this spoiler stuff, but I don't know what it is for sure. I hope it's not what I think it is. But even if it is, I'm sure it will be a good flick.
I have to disagree with most of you... by chains	Jun 11th, 2009 10:03:31 AM
I'm a huge Hitchcock fan, I guessed the Fight Club twist about 1/3 of the way through, and Shutter Island's ending was not all that obvious. The average moviegoer (not the movie-obsessed people here) who only sees the trailer once or twice will probably not guess anything too early in this one. You Negative Nancies here need to simmer down...
Oh, and about Fight Club... by chains	Jun 11th, 2009 10:05:49 AM
Guessing the twist in that movie early on did NOT make it a piece of shit, or ruin my enjoyment of it... sometimes it's fun to figure things out ahead of time, and just appreciate a well-made film. I think some of you boys get insulted when a movie tries to outsmart you (and doesn't), and take it a bit too personally.
I'll Be There Opening Day by Broseph	Jun 11th, 2009 10:19:01 AM

They gave away too much in that trailer. FACT by T 1000 xp professional	Jun 11th, 2009 10:31:52 AM
woww too much. Speaking about ADD music videos lol I shot one. I do not approve of the trailer but shot this amateur music video nonetheless.I will get better and make you guys proud one day :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ce0ml7ZERdc (take out spaces) this is the last time I plug lol
Max Von Sydow working at a mental institution . . . by Royston Lodge	Jun 11th, 2009 10:45:51 AM
. . . WITHOUT Bob & Doug Mackenzie?!?! EPIC FAIL!!!!! ;-)
Who cares about "the twist"? by ColonelFatheart	Jun 11th, 2009 10:55:49 AM
Haven't read the book, just heard about the premise. The twist, or that there is some kind of twist, was obvious to me. I'm going to see this shit for Scorsese's and Richardson's filmmaking. Just look at that composition!
B Movie??? by Reckoner	Jun 11th, 2009 10:59:40 AM
Are you serious? This and Public Enemies are my must-sees of the year.
LaneMyersClassic by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead	Jun 11th, 2009 11:16:42 AM
Yes, you are. Thisw movie does have a political bend to it as well, just more along the lines of how war affects men. Actually, if Lehane would have stuck with the dialogue between the two leads regarding the war and its afteraffects, this would have been one compelling book. At those points in the book, it sings. As far as not letting a plot twist ruin the movie. It's the gimmicky and illogical cheat that does derail what is a good stroy and a decent mystery here. Lehane is a good writer when you consider that he is a best-selling mystery writer. This book just derails. However, Scorsese is the best; he is a master storyteller and he will get my money as he always does. I'm interseted to see how he deals with this twist. It's kind of odd that he chose this book, it's kind of a thankless task making it all plausible. The vibe seems to be there in the trailer, very creepy place, and Scorsese and his always top-notch vision and cinematography make this look cool. Again, I know where it's going and i don;t like it, but I have no reason to bail on Marty, he's given us all so much over the years and despite fanboys constant criticism has made some of his best career movies in recent years with his new muse. Now get DeNiro back on the fucking screen with Leo and Marty and let's see if he can remember what it once meant to ACT! Goddamn, I miss DeNiro, what the hell was his last blow you away performance, Guilty by Suspicion?
Well, I haven't read the book by COCKNASTY_BUTTSTANK	Jun 11th, 2009 11:46:53 AM
And I still have no fucking clue what the hell was happening in that trailer, so I couldn't even tell you what the 'spoiler' is. It's just random shots of DiCaprio being sweaty and freaking out, and Michelle Williams looking like a ghost.
Scorsese's Cape Fear is one of the best remakes ever... by Mrhazard	Jun 11th, 2009 11:54:59 AM
If not the best... Seen it a billion times and it never gets old... I dont know how anyone could have a problem with it... If this new movie is half the film Cape Fear is, I'll be on-line opening night... However, I'm still not sold on DiCaprio being Scorsese's next DeNiro... He's alright but I dont see the big deal about the guy...
About the twist (widespread spoiler alert for this and a LOT of by Neosamurai85	Jun 11th, 2009 12:12:55 PM
(NOTE: widespread spoiler alert for this and a LOT of other movies, non-cinephiles be warned!) (Also if this doesn't paragraph break will someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong.) There is nothing wrong with a twist ending, but there is a particular kind of twist ending that has been very abused lately: the it's all in my head twist. It worked in Fight Club in part because it was relatively fresh, however, it also made a lot of sense to the overall message of the film, which was complex and incorporated it for more than a surprise. The novel revealed it much earlier on, making it much less of a twist and more the setting of the story. In other films, this has not been as clear or at least as important to the message and workings of the story. Instead, it is mostly for the surprise! To varying degrees we can see this with The Sixth Sense, in that while it fit consistently with the structure of the story, it ultimately felt more like a function of suspense than something with deeper commentary. Granted, that's debatable. It's certainly tipping over the edge more than plummeting, but what would fallow it was often much harder to defend. It's success popularized these kind of films hanging on the surprise of it all being in the character's head. High Tension is the extreme in which the twist is utter bullshit and compromises the entire integrity of the film, but along the way films like Hide and Seek and Secret Window, just sorta function flaccidly, but in the end they reveal the ultimate problem with what the "it's all in your head" twist has become: it is simply a step up from the "it was all a dream" twist. Like the it's all a dream, it's ultimately a cop-out. A film now and then can do it, OZ got away with it, but without some deeper significance to the delusion, some function and method to the duality of what one sees and what one is and the parts of one's self they project as someone or something else to keep from facing it within them, then it's just a cop-out from devising an actual clever ending that pays off all the build up. It's a bad writer's toy, and that's why fans hate it: not because we are uber-intellectuals who spot it early on and can't get anything out of it, but because it often signals that there is little to nothing to get out of it. Peace.
After Hours Massively Underrated by Lovecraftfan	Jun 11th, 2009 01:03:54 PM
One of my favorite black comedies.
Scorsese Visits Arkham Asylum... by Grinning White Skull	Jun 11th, 2009 01:05:22 PM
The closest we'll get to Marty directing a Batman film.
Leo Dicaprio in GOTHIKA 2.. by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer	Jun 11th, 2009 01:09:45 PM
oh and read the book..it's Leo..SNAP
I'll go public with my distaste for Scorsese's Cape Fear by Royston Lodge	Jun 11th, 2009 01:29:13 PM
I thought everything was just way too over-the-top, Juliette Lewis wasn't nearly virginal enough for that role, and Nick Nolte wasn't squeaky-clean enough. The original felt so much more sinister, because Gregory Peck doesn't have a dark bone in his body, the wife and daughter were paragons of 1950s virtue, and Robert Mitchum's psychopathy was mostly kept just below the surface rather than being thrown in your face. I frikkin' love the original. Mitchum's so freakin' creepy!
Did I just watch the whole movie by TDO	Jun 11th, 2009 01:39:26 PM
in that trailer? I think I did.
Neosamurai: High Tension worked Extremely Well! by LaneMyersClassic	Jun 11th, 2009 02:00:30 PM
I didn't read anything before going into it and didn't even know there was going to be twist. Knocked my fucking socks off because it surprised me so much! For reference, I usually guess a lot of these movie "twists" early on - Sixth Sense and Usual Suspects come to mind - ask my wife. Another one I didn't see coming was Crying Game - I saw that in the theater when it first came out. Siskel and Ebert reviewed it and said there was something so surprising in the film, they weren't going to talk about it anymore. They never used the term "twist", but their gushing over it piqued my interest. Credit Jordan for manipulating me, 'cause I never saw it coming - even being prepared for something "surprising."
Royston Lodge by Neosamurai85	Jun 11th, 2009 02:00:47 PM
For more Mitchum love (if you haven't seen it already) check out Night of the Hunter. Very odd film, that's utterly brilliant. God I love evil Mitchum roles.
I'm in by Arashikage	Jun 11th, 2009 02:06:13 PM
that's all
Neosamurai by Royston Lodge	Jun 11th, 2009 02:13:20 PM
I have added it to my ZipList (Zip.ca being the Canadian equivalent of NetFlix).
High Tension and Crying Game (spoilers) by Neosamurai85	Jun 11th, 2009 02:14:31 PM
Worked well at what? At surprising you? Well, yeah. But go back through it. I'll give M. Night one thing, he got consistency. You go back through Six Sense and it does make sense. High Tension doesn't. The car chase, where the van comes from... there are so many things that between the girl and the killer that simply do not work unless there are two people. There is too much at play. Too much build up between them, and then nothing. Yes, I get the idea of the love, and there is an interesting idea there about love and creating monsters to save the damsel in distress from... the idea that to be the hero you must first have the princess bound and suffering, that that is a part of the fantasy. That's all fine. But it dosn't work like that. The idea isn't followed through with a structure that fits it. It's surprising because it dosn't make sense at all given the information we've received. It simply breaks the rules it lays out and expects us to accept the gaping wound of a plot because it sucker punched us, but it essentially sucker punched us with its third arm. Humans don't have a third arm! (The blind gunfighter doesn't count.) As for Crying Game, that's different. On the most basic level it's different because it is not an "it's all in your head" twist, which is entirely what my post was about. It's a twist, but I'm not anti-twist, just cheap ones. I knew the twist going in so I can't say if it works or not (she looked obvious to me... in fact the thing I couldn't stand about the film is I never saw what he saw in her, since she was such a whiny needy spoiled diva) but the point wasn't the shock anyway. The movie goes on for a while after that and the surprise is relevant to the film in a larger way than just startling you.
Mitchum & Night of the Hunter by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead	Jun 11th, 2009 02:18:43 PM
That is one evil and dark son of a bitch. Anyone who hasn't seen Night of the Hunter...holy fuck...go buy that shit! Mitchum in Cape Fear was pretty fucking twisted too but he doesn't compare to what Bobby D. did with tat role. DeNiro WAS Max Cady, he simply WAS that rotten prick. Marty's Cape Fear does have some failings, especially with the passage of time. Most of all, Juliette Lewis. I know Brad Pitt had some mad love for that freaky deaky but she just weirds me out. I think that casting her was one of, if not the, biggest casting mistake of Scorsese's career. She just didn;t work for me on so many levels. Yes, she should have been more angelic and virginal, but I understand why Scorsese went with the direction for the character tat he did. Unfortunately, he went that way with Juliette Lewis. Now, put her in Natural Born Killers or even kalifornia to a lesser degree and it works. The young, budding pubescence of Nick Nolte and Jessica Lange in idyllic suburban America? Not so much. I thought Nolte and Lange were spot-on. Nolte always delivers and Lange just needed to show up looking sweaty and milfy, which she did just fine. I think Scorsese should have just made it his own movie. The nod to that genre of film and more to the point, Hitchcock was cool and all, but the story needed more freshness. All in all, it was a good Scrosese movie with a blow your fucking brains out bat-shit crazy classic performance by DeNiro. One of his last really great ones. Not perfect Scorsese, but not bad Scorsese either. Why it gets so much hate, I don't understand. It worked and he did all he set out to do with it, his choices just limited the film. Someone up there mentioned After Hours as one of the most underrated movies out there. Hell Yeah! Also, Bringing Out The Dead was hailed by a lot of people as a masterpiece when it hit theaters and seems forgotten now. Why is that? That movie was psychotic in its brilliance. Why can;t there be more Scorsese's out there? Why can't his movies make more money, urging studios to greenlight actual artists behind the camera instead of McG probably getting one more shot at Terminator? The world is a fucked up place when you think about it. Thank God we still ave Marty around to remind us.
High Tension was refreshing in the genre of the slasher film. by LaneMyersClassic	Jun 11th, 2009 02:41:35 PM
Neosamourai, you're getting confused - High tension was not intended to be high art. It was intended to be a different take on the slasher film - of which I have seen countless. It achieved its fresh perspective BRILLIANTLY. You want to go back and analyze every scene, I can do the same and say the killer was there in every scene - either physically or mentally. It was a thrilling, shocking film - I'm not the only one who believes this, but at the same time it was still a slasher film.
Yeah... what he said ;) by Neosamurai85	Jun 11th, 2009 02:44:38 PM
Anyway, as for the film this discussions about, I hope it's not an all in your head twist if for no other reason than I'm tired of them, but if it is I hope it's more in the vein of how Marty dealt with delusion in King of Comedy, another goofy gem from his book. Of course, I don't mean make it a comedy, just get past the twisting of it and deal more with the madness part. Most of these films get to the part where we find out the guy or girl is mad and then that's the end, it's more fun when you go on into that Hour of the Wolf world. Either way, I didn't realize this was going to be so horror movie-esque, if not a flat out horror movie. That's great! I'd love to see him play in the horror realm.
What he said being about Night of the Hunter. by Neosamurai85	Jun 11th, 2009 02:49:54 PM
not LaneMyersClassic
I love Scorcese's CAPE FEAR... by Tacom	Jun 11th, 2009 03:00:41 PM
so I'll check this one out.
As for Lane by Neosamurai85	Jun 11th, 2009 03:07:57 PM
Putting "brilliant" in caps does not make something brilliant. Secondly, I hate it when people throw the high art argument the moment someone brings up logistics. I too have seen a slasher film and some of the earliest examples of the genre are Psycho and Peeping Tom, followed by films like Black Christmas and continuing with Halloween and Candyman. Were there others inbeteen? Oh god yeah, tons of them. Some good and a lot that suck, but don't give me the it's a slasher film, it's not supposed to be intelligent argument, because that's why shit like Hatchet makes a buck. Just like how for every Die Hard or Hard Boiled there's a dozen action movies that suck horribly, doesn't mean don't call bullshit when someone uses shaky cam to hide bad choreography. It's a slasher film second. Also, I'm critical of it because it posed to step up. The first three thirds were solid. It was a slasher film being done right, damn right, and then the ending went bullshit. Oh and there's nothing fresh about that twist either, in essence it's just a variation of everything from Psycho to Friday the 13th to Deep Red to Sleepaway Camp to... it goes on and on. It's an old trick done poorly. You say you can call show where the killer was at any time? Ok. My point before: Nut girl is driving damsel girl's car, Damsel girl is in front of her in the Mystery Van, we see several scenes with damsel girl alone in Mystery van, they are from Damsel girl's POV, thus suggesting they are real, that the van is real (so where the hell did this van come from?) yet we also see the damsel's car in several scenes indicating it's reality in the chase. So please, enlighten me on how the killer is driving both cars.
You want classic fucked-up movie characters? by Royston Lodge	Jun 11th, 2009 03:23:05 PM
I saw Panic in the Streets last Saturday. Man, Jack Palance is f-u-c-k-e-d up in that!
Now that I think about it . . . by Royston Lodge	Jun 11th, 2009 03:25:15 PM
. . . I'm surprised we haven't heard that any of the studios plan to remake Panic in the Streets. It seems like the perfect sort of plot for a cheap-ass remake, profiting from 21st century swine flu paranoia.
To clearify by Neosamurai85	Jun 11th, 2009 03:28:49 PM
Damsel girl is in front of her (nut girl) in the BACK of the mystery van.
Royston Lodge, thats the basic argument... by Mrhazard	Jun 11th, 2009 03:44:26 PM
between the original Cape Fear and the remake... I actually love the remake because Nolte's family ISN'T perfect. It makes him more human and more sympathetic as a character. I mean his family can fall apart any second even BEFORE DeNiro walks into that movie theater!!! The odds are against him and his family surviving in every way, shape, and form. The remake is over-the-top but I think thats what a remake SHOULD be (especially since our shock levels have increased since the 50s). In the 90s, you kinda have to have Max Cady biting girls faces, pouring wax on himself, and talking to the camera while giving Nolte a mock trial, etc. A remake should expand everything the original did. The only part of the original that I thought was better was the fact that the daughter is SOOOO young looking. She looks like she's 10 for crying out loud. Mitchum going after her is about as creepy as you can get. Juliette Lewis just acts like she's 10...
I hate it when people pick and choose the logistics they want to by LaneMyersClassic	Jun 11th, 2009 03:50:07 PM
But you know what, you have a right to do it, 'cause that's your opinion. Don't call the something bullshit and then expect no one to contest it. I said BRILLIANT in all caps because that is how strongly I admire the quality of the film. Your arguments against "twists in the mind" make all of my arguments to love this film and buy into the motivations and the machinations of the characters and the story. I point out that it's not high art, because I really do believe you are over analyzing a slasher film. I love all the films you mentioned, but none of those are the same as this film. The "all in the mind twist" was only a part of the whole package. the cinematography, direction and atmosphere were done BRILLIANTLY and the icing on the cake (for me) was the twist. You felt cheated, I felt thrilled. Believe it or not, I am very critical of films that don't follow a sense of logic, be it inside or outside of the film itself. This film did absolutely fine with what turned out to be its own sense of twisted logic.
Leo as a cop by drewlicious	Jun 11th, 2009 04:24:33 PM
Weird I can buy him playing a cop in The Departed yet for some reason I'm having some difficulty with this one. I suppose its because this one is carrying some degree of experience with him and I'm having trouble buying it. He just doesn't look hard-boiled enough. Then again, I was wrong about Casey Affleck so that shows just how much I know.
Haute Tension by PsimonSez	Jun 11th, 2009 04:27:05 PM
Neosamurai I agree with your views on the all-in-their head plot device that is often a machination in strong (Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge and Sixth Sense) and weak (Haute Tension) works of fiction. As with any work of fantasy one has to delve into varying degrees of verisimilitude to fully engage the story. Without it, you are simply not partaking in the moment. In the celluloid events unfolding on screen before you. Part of the verisimilitude contract is accepting the line of logic by the world the movie lives in. Nothing pisses me off more when the movie betrays the line of logic that it uses at the end by throwing the All-in-the-head contrivance up on the screen in an a off the wall, nonsensical manner like in Haute Tension. It is like going to Ruth Chris and ordering a 20 ounce Porter and having the waiter describe the cut in amazing, mouth watering detail and then when he brings you your order it is a plate of bean sprouts and says, "That is what I described and what you ordered." That is what poor movie logic is like. I know it is just my opinion but I did feel cheated with Tension. It was a waste of what was a good build up. LaneMyer calls you out for picking and choosing specific scenes that support your statements for dismissing HT but isn't that what debating is all about?
PsimonSez and NeoSamouri you are the same person! by LaneMyersClassic	Jun 11th, 2009 04:34:47 PM
You moron! Anyone can get another ID on this site. You don't have to get another person to prove your point. Many people liked it, many people didn't. I suspect you knew the twist going into it and maybe that took away from the experience. I call bullshit on your bullshit!
Well, glad I read the TB by TedKordLives	Jun 11th, 2009 04:42:47 PM
...before watching the apparently spoilerific trailer. That screencap is very pretty, tho. This is the first I've heard of this and I gotta say, it looks pretty good. Oh, and 'After Hours' IS my favorite Scorsese film. 'I'm probably gonna get blamed for that.'
LOL by Neosamurai85	Jun 11th, 2009 04:50:56 PM
Oh my god. That's a first. Email Harry. Have them check on me for abuse. I've been on this site talkbacking since AVP was being talked about as possibly AVP in the Hood (sometime between 1999 and 2000). I'm not PsimonSez. I'm sorry to break this to you, but some people might actually agree with my opinion. I know that next to your utter brilliance that is difficult to understand, but it's the case. Heaven help you if you search through the archives for the reviews from people on this site, it might blow your mind.
MOVIE MARKETING TODAY SUCKS BALLS by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL	Jun 11th, 2009 05:15:46 PM
This movie looks fucking awesome but, once again, in swan the fucking marketing department who decide to show you the ENTIRE fucking movie in one trailer. I don't need to read this TB or even the book to guess the fucking ending on this one, thanks to the fuckwits who put this trailer together. In fact, I probably won't go and see it now despite the fact it looks good. What's the point if I already know the ending? Someone needs to do something about this. It's a problem that's getting worse every year. Utter fuckwitness.
Neosamurai85's always been my fave talkbacker by seppukudkurosawa	Jun 11th, 2009 07:22:25 PM
since before I even started posting. Don't try and corrupt him with your filthy online tricks!
The ZODIAC! by Anything But Tangerines	Jun 12th, 2009 01:28:35 AM

Like Haute Tension maybe we are... by PsimonSez	Jun 12th, 2009 12:01:21 PM
...the same person(?!?!?!)just typing from two completely different computers. And though not as a prolific poster as Neo I have been a denizen here for multiple years as well. I agreed with him on HT. That twist, no matter how it it is spun, does not fit in the logic framework of the movie. It simply does not.
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