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FIRST! by serveux	Jun 8th, 2009 03:44:56 AM

loved the 1st 3 seasons but by BrainFart	Jun 8th, 2009 03:55:29 AM
the 4th took a nose dive. I couldnt even finish the whole season but maybe ill catch up and give the new season a chance.
I Hate This Show by Bungion Boy	Jun 8th, 2009 03:55:35 AM
I love Parker, and just about every other actor on this show, including many of the great guest stars over the years. I've seen every episode of this. There have been story arcs i've been interested in, though i think they are never treated as well as they could be. I love the premise, but mostly hate the execution. I'm the only person I know who feels this way. For a show about a normal person dealing drugs, I'll take Breaking Bad, that seems to do better with showing the consequences and unpleasantness of the market without making it a joke. I love comedies and love to laugh. I also love good acting, which this show has, but it just doesn't end up working for me.
congrats by rebel299	Jun 8th, 2009 03:56:06 AM
another first posting, no substance douche. god i love the internet. almost as much as this show, which has its ups and downs, but definitely has me hooked. i hope the comedy is still there. i love black humor, but i'd rather not watch this show turn into much more of a dramedy. and with that... "U-turn's dead!!" haha, that still cracks me up.
I Know... I Know by serveux	Jun 8th, 2009 04:03:52 AM
Couldn't resist. I am looking forward to this though. It's one of the only shows I watch with any regularity anymore.
BrainFart by Hercules	Jun 8th, 2009 04:06:38 AM
If you missed the last episode of season four you missed one of the series' finest half-hours. Which is saying something. Made me laugh, made me cry, got me all worked up.
The show works by optimus122	Jun 8th, 2009 04:41:25 AM
MLP is a milf..there better be more nudity and more of the brother in law as he is the funniest part of the show.
Herc by BrainFart	Jun 8th, 2009 05:37:16 AM
season 4 felt like a spin off to me. Like "weeds: san diego". They lost some main characters;one of which was Agrestic. No longer was Nancy the struggling rich girl with the out of character secret life, she became a skanky drug mule. Remember how sad the final season of that 70s show was when Topher left but they kept the show going by introducing Donna to some new guy undoing the main story of the entire series, thats how it feels with Conrad and Nancy. Now im not saying the series is tanked its just that it lost a lot of its appeal.
Season 3 was crap. Season 4 was brilliant. by The Wrong Guy	Jun 8th, 2009 05:47:28 AM
Cannot wait for the new season. Will have to see whether it can top the awesomeness of Breaking Bad though...
Justin Kirk is a god by Fart_Master_Flex	Jun 8th, 2009 07:20:33 AM
Not "the" God, just "a" god...but still. Seriously, "El Andy" is the number one reason to see this show. His delivery is just pitch perfect.
Oh and I hope they scale back Celia this season... by Fart_Master_Flex	Jun 8th, 2009 07:24:53 AM
Seriously, each episode is only like 25 minutes long. The fact that Celia gets so much screen time is lost on me. I think they have gone as far as they can with that character. Kidnap her and leave her tied up and in the background for a few episodes at least.
Can't Wait by erichaislar	Jun 8th, 2009 07:46:06 AM
Love this show!
Didn't so much like the Doug/coyote sublot of 4 by beastie	Jun 8th, 2009 08:07:09 AM
With Andy, the plot felt like another chapter in his life, given what little back story we have of him. With Doug, it felt like sitcom shenanigans. Doug's finest moments were in season three when he was at odds with the Matthew Modine character.
This website sucks now by Heckles	Jun 8th, 2009 08:15:41 AM
I come here every other day or so in hopes of movie/tv news that might be of interest. It's a crap shoot to be sure. It's getting to be about 1 out of a hundred trips that makes it worth while. Fuck you. That being said, see you tomorrow.
Used to like this show by chimpjnr	Jun 8th, 2009 08:29:28 AM
But they lost me when they turned Nancy into an out-and-out bad person. You could give her a pass for the first few seasons on the grounds of her pushing drugs in order to get by, but once they had her becoming a drug mule, she just became difficult to sympathise with. The brother-in-law is great though.
Similar complaints.. by Canuck815	Jun 8th, 2009 08:41:07 AM
I've heard a lot of people say Nancy's increasing willingness to whore herself out through the seasons has been a bit of a turnoff. While I do kinda miss the 'lost in the shuffle' vibe she put out in the first two seasons, I'm still gonna check it out tonight for sure. Anybody read the article about MLP from a few weeks ago? She said she regretted the nude scenes from last season more than anything, and fought over whether or not they were necessary. I'm guessing we've seen the last of Nancy's tits.
Ericaisler - by ThusSpakeSpymunk	Jun 8th, 2009 08:41:22 AM
That was Alexander Gould, not Gu'ald.
Weeds was a show I enjoyed and would forget about, but.. by DanielKurland	Jun 8th, 2009 08:50:06 AM
season four was a COMPLETELY new show. I guess some people hated the new direction, and I can understand why, but season four made this into a show I love. Not only was it hilarious, but episodes would get so fucking suspenseful and genuinely dramatic. They dangerously deserved a writing nomination last year. Hope the show is more of the same last year. And, as much as you hate Celia, her sneezing and getting blood all over her daughter's face was fantastic. Herc, what are you talking about with the theme song. Last year went without "Ticky tacky" as well...
Weeds usually leaks early... by DanielKurland	Jun 8th, 2009 08:52:54 AM
Are we honestly not getting the first 1/3 of the season before the premiere even airs this year?
JesseSP by JesseSP	Jun 8th, 2009 08:55:33 AM
I thought "Little Boxes" was removed last season?
Little Boxes by BLADE	Jun 8th, 2009 09:25:39 AM
Yeah "Little Boxes" wasn't there last season. Just a random "Leaf" scene with "Weeds created by:" at the top of every Ep
Little Boxes was removed mid-season by Mooly	Jun 8th, 2009 09:26:34 AM
So technically this WOULD be the first season to open without the credits, as he said. I am really looking forward to this season as well. AS a few others have said S3 was the down season for me, and it just felt like the show was coasting on formula and the season was feeling completely rehashed. By moving the family and putting Nancy into even hotter water, the show felt rejuvinated and fresh again. As for the idea she is whoring herseld out too much. The show is all about Nancy's bad choices with good intentions. She keeps digging herself into a deeper and deeper hole. In order to keep herself and her family (and "business") safe, she keeps aligning herself with worse and worse people. Frankly, I am REALLY looking forward to seeing how she gets out of this latest mess she has created. Oh, and tghe Shawshank Redemption shout-out with Doug last season? If that wasn't one of the funniest moments on TV, I don't know what is.
DanielKurland: Herc's getting by on a technicality by Kaiser Soze	Jun 8th, 2009 09:26:45 AM
The first episode of season 4 was the last to have the ticky tacky song, as it showed Agrestic aflame. To use Herc's favorite word, the last episode of Season 3 was the "penultimate" episode of the ticky tacky song (translation, big word that means next to last and is generally used by Herc ad nauseum because he thinks it makes him sound smarter than us). But if you read what he wrote, he said it was the first season not to kick off with the song. Technically that's true.
Little Boxes by serveux	Jun 8th, 2009 09:34:31 AM
"Little Boxes" was used in last season's premiere ep. The original Malvina Richards version opened every season. This is the first season premiere without it.
Aww no everybody... by em_tee_em	Jun 8th, 2009 09:35:44 AM
...Herc uses words such as "penultimate" that correctly convey what he's attempting to express. What a pretentious douchebag.
Nancy making bad decisions... by DanielKurland	Jun 8th, 2009 09:36:01 AM
Something I have loved is how absolutely terrible of a mother Nancy has become. She's made rationalizations and gone into gray areas before, but last season there is absolutely no denying that she has become a BAD parent. She would constantly just shirk her son and responsibilities and go to her new boyfriend. I'm not saying this is a problem I have with the show, it's just very interesting territory to take Nancy down. Something I am concerned about though is this show being renewed for like up to season 7? I love it, and last year breathed A TON of new life into it, but seven seasons seems like a lot for anything. I hope they prove me wrong though, and last season proved to me that they're at least capable of it
Please don't let her actually have the baby... by DanielKurland	Jun 8th, 2009 09:38:15 AM
And please don't let this Doug/Nancy thing play out stupidly. It was introduced so subtly and casually, that it actually is plausible. Just don't ruin it.
Also, I must make mention of the scene... by DanielKurland	Jun 8th, 2009 09:40:54 AM
where Nancy is simultaneously talking to Shane about masturbating to her naked picture, and telling Silas that fucking an older woman as a mother surrogate is a bad idea, is an absolutely PERFECT piece of writing and acting. Did they use that clip for Parker's Emmy clip? They should have.
season 4 by long live the new chris	Jun 8th, 2009 10:43:02 AM
was the best yet. i thought the first 3 seasons were quite mediocre, but season 4 took it up a few notches.
Make the baby CONRAD'S . . . by Nice Marmot	Jun 8th, 2009 10:47:57 AM
And kill off that smug shit, Silas. Rather violently please. And make Nancy become a good Mom, not one who just ponders it from time to time. Doug and Andy are great. Bring back Conrad and Albert Brooks please.
Hope this season is better than last season by Philvis	Jun 8th, 2009 10:52:28 AM
The first three seasons were excellent. My wife and I loved them. Last season just seemed to be there. Nothing special about it. I hope things pick up for this season. I need something to watch on TV this summer.
i liked it better when she sold weed by itrainmonkeys	Jun 8th, 2009 11:59:04 AM
the first two seasons were interesting. seeing the 'fish-out-of-water' scenario for nancy and the drug business. Her learning a little more every time she makes a mistake or whatever. but now it's more like a soap opera with crazy storylines. she works in a maternity store that's a front for a tunnel to mexico that's used for drug and human trafficking that just happens to be run by the corrupt mayor of Tijuana - who, by the way she is now dating/getting spanked/getting threatened and carrying his child (allegedly) the storyline used to be much simpler. but they keep getting crazier and crazier. i'm also finding nancy more and more annoying and selfish. but i'll watch. probably after it airs, on demand or something. i'm not dying to catch it on the night it airs like i used to
Weeds through the years..... by NoCalFlicks	Jun 8th, 2009 12:02:45 PM
Much like everyone else, I was a huge fan of seasons 1,2,&3. While I didn't hate season 4, the entire tone of the show changed. Nancy went from a desperate housemother who was trying to sell some weed to make ends meet, to a pretty neglectful mother who was sleeping with a crime lord, and getting off on it(no pun intended). I was holding out hope that the sonogram picture was either a fake, or just a picture of Silas or the other son, but from the early spoilers I have read, the writers are actually going through with Nancy being knocked up with the Boss's kid. This isn't going to end well, and I seriously doubt this fetus is being carried to term, on way or another. The Nancy of seasons 1,2&3, would have basically packed up and moved away if they had suggested building a tunnel into her shop for smuggeling. Nancy has allowed herself to get way in over her head which is probably going to end things bad. It seems at times she is oblivious to what the people she is working with are capable of. I mean first and foremost she should be looking out for her kids, and the most important thing is certainly NOT that they live in a big fancy house.
One more thing..... by NoCalFlicks	Jun 8th, 2009 12:07:39 PM
Oh also, it was much more believable early in the series when Nancy played this "Gee I dunno whats going on" type of character when it came to drugs and drug dealing. After all, she was getting her pot from a family that lived in suburbia, who seemed fairly normal. However it is not really believable that she would still be carrying this "Gee guys I dunno about this huge tunnel you are building, but if you say it's ok, cool deal" type of attitude this far into the series. She should know better by now. Also, I think they kind of made a leap by making (I can't remember his name) the hispanic dealer guy who has been in the show since the beginning. Early in the series he came off just like every other two-bit dealer the show featured, but then all of the sudden he is working right under this multi-million dollar crime ring? Hmmmm.?
Interesting to see the dislike for season four... by DanielKurland	Jun 8th, 2009 12:41:52 PM
I guess I'm in the minority.
Nancy by Kessler	Jun 8th, 2009 01:09:08 PM
It has to get worse. Each season illustrated Nancy getting deeper and deeper into the drug trade: Casual seller; pusher; grower; smuggler; now what??? She is dating a drug lord and is a Drug Lady? (is there such a title?). What could be worse? Saw Justin Kirk at Sundance. His movie about some swimmer was mediocre but he made the film watchable. I also saw Paris Hilton from behind (but who hasn't).
Kevin Nealon Hanging himself by erichaislar	Jun 8th, 2009 01:21:37 PM
then showing him masturbating was one of the funnest thing i have ever seen.
Hey! I'm just catching up on season 4 on DVD! by skimn	Jun 8th, 2009 01:51:13 PM
Watch the spoilage! The Breaking Bad analogies are unfair though. I love BB. It's one of, if not my favorite series currently airing. Okay, just ended. But the difference between the manufacturing of crystal meth and those who smoke it are worlds apart from growing weed and smoking it. And the tone of the series are worlds apart. In BB, your meth addicts are the zombies that Walt tiptoed around and the ATM couple. In Weeds, you get the amiable stoner lunkheads like Nealon and Nancy's brother-in-law.
Oh. and I do miss Albert Brooks.. by skimn	Jun 8th, 2009 01:53:21 PM
no sign of his return??
Season 4 was funny by coosawatchie	Jun 8th, 2009 01:59:27 PM
in my opinion, probably the funniest season yet. Albert Brooks reminded me that was more than just Marlin. The Lee Majors cameo was brilliant. ElAndy was hilarious. All the supporting storlylines rocked, except Shane and the nymphos creeped me out a bit. Nancy Botwin is just the classic example of how a person can justify just about anything in their life. Bring on season 5!
I forgot Shane had a fucking threesome... by DanielKurland	Jun 8th, 2009 02:07:03 PM
That's hilarious.
Enjoy the series but despise Nancy by growltiger	Jun 8th, 2009 02:24:05 PM
Weeds is wicked funny. And it has been from the get go to date. At least that is my opinion. That said, Nancy, however funny and poignant, is a malignant human being. Bringing her children into the business was just so wrong. That and while much mayhem and death has been perpetrated she has stood by as a coy observer. If there is any justice, at series end Nancy must endure a huge comeuppance. And it will be LOL moment.
Season 4 is logical progression. by Mooly	Jun 8th, 2009 02:30:33 PM
In S1, Nancy is learning about weed and how to sell it. In S2, Nancy stops selling weed and has people selling it for her instead. In S3, she tries to start her own Growing operation. In S4 she gets involved in drug trafficking. It's the next logical step. Just like with each season, he problems also get bigger. Learning the ropes, FDA, drug gang competition, slippery slope of smuggling drugs, etc. Meanwhile, her being the bad parent trying to rationalize her bad decisions isn't just a one off either. That is something that has also grown more and more with each season. In fact, S4 was the first time she really acknowledges how far things have gone and how messed up they were. Frankly, I would argue that anyone who says S4 doesn't fit in or is way out of place, has been watching a show in their head, more than what was on the TV.
Katee Sackhoff joining '24' next season! by PennsyDeux	Jun 8th, 2009 02:53:29 PM
I frak you not, from Ausiello of Entertainment Weekly: http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/20 09/06/exclusive-katee.html
Watchable, but hasn't been all that good since S2 by _Maltheus_	Jun 8th, 2009 03:08:36 PM
If so many people here can see why the show has gotten worse, why can't the writers and producers? It was a fun show in the first two seasons and you couldn't help but love Nancy. Conrad and Heylia were great characters and were more essential than Celia or her husband (or probably even Doug). Now it's just about Nancy whoring her way out of one dangerous situation after another. And if that weren't bad enough, her crappy parenting has taken away any remaining sympathy I might have once had for her. They should have just left her as a low risk suburban weed dealer and expanded the story in other ways. Although, I did just start watching Breaking Bad and I'm liking that much better so far. It handles drama much better than Weeds, which was suppose to be a fun comedy.
RE:Katee Sackhoff joining '24' next season! by coyrhino	Jun 8th, 2009 03:30:32 PM
So thats where her and the pigeon went!
Weeds seasons in one word by bswise	Jun 8th, 2009 03:45:09 PM
1: Dealing 2: Growing 3: Burning 4: Tafficking 5: Running...?
the first half of season 3 by Murkish	Jun 8th, 2009 03:47:53 PM
had some of the greatest episodes of the series. U-Turn was hilarious, but when he died the rest of that season turned to shit pretty quickly
Enjoyed all prior seasons. by Joe Mannix Jr.	Jun 8th, 2009 06:36:57 PM
I think it's great at mixing the extremely silly and serious while keeping a good chunk of "heart". Haven't really seen a bad episode yet. It may have leaned more towards the silly bits last season, but never "jumped.." as it were. Can't wait for the new season to finally get started.
Shane Did NOT Have a Threesome by blhotz	Jun 8th, 2009 08:43:39 PM
...was pretty obvious the chicks "chickened" out. This show is great and one of the few my Parents (who are sitcom fanatics) also watch, lol. Can't wait until True Blood on Sunday too!!
Fuck Weeds. Where was the Breaking Bad coverage? by Flip63Hole	Jun 8th, 2009 10:01:15 PM
Now that's a show!
Flip63Hole: by Hercules	Jun 9th, 2009 12:17:12 AM
tinyurl.com/kohtbt
Season 4 was hilarious by landosystem	Jun 9th, 2009 02:22:43 AM
Some of Kevin Nealons finest work.
So NO ONE is going to comment on that ending... by DanielKurland	Jun 9th, 2009 10:12:15 AM
with the flash mob.
Any Mary Louise Parker nudity? by Cotton McKnight	Jun 9th, 2009 10:25:38 AM
That's the only reason to watch.
Where's the Supernatural coverage? by Cotton McKnight	Jun 9th, 2009 10:27:32 AM
I bet Hercules won't post a link in his answer to that question.
Season opener by Philvis	Jun 9th, 2009 11:45:40 AM
I didn't think it was too bad. I really like how they are finally exploring the fact that Nancy is a whore and her kids and brother-in-law know it. It was also nice to show how the kingpin father of her baby to be is no longer Mr. Cuddly. I have hopes this will be a good season. Season 4 wasn't bad, but it just didn't have the quality the prior three did.
blhotz by erichaislar	Jun 9th, 2009 12:53:40 PM
Shane did have a threesome. He even talked about what it was like.
Yeah, Shane's aging was distracting... by DanielKurland	Jun 9th, 2009 01:05:25 PM
But threesomes do that to you, haha. I really like the idea of Nancy pretty much being forced to have this baby, which she doesn't want, and is casting her in an extremely negative light with her family, all because if she is to abort, the father will have no reason to keep her alive.
I guess ill comment on that flash mob by Murkish	Jun 9th, 2009 01:29:20 PM
bad. rest of the episode was pretty good though
i thought the flash mob by Timahh	Jun 9th, 2009 03:12:43 PM
was fantastic. i actually really liked the episode as a whole. Not a fan of them sending the family away, not sure how thats going to work out for the show. Oh, and who besides me was really hoping Celia was going to have her organs harvested?
Yes, more Albert Brooks, please. by Dr Gregory House	Jun 9th, 2009 03:58:09 PM

Breaking Bad > Weeds by Rustle	Jun 9th, 2009 04:43:44 PM

Cotton McKnight: by Hercules	Jun 9th, 2009 06:22:45 PM
tinyurl.com/74mu8y
Nice of you to promote another site, Herc by growltiger	Jun 9th, 2009 09:15:01 PM
But as for me, it would be nicer to have some Supernatural talkback here.
The flash mob was cool by growltiger	Jun 9th, 2009 09:18:21 PM
Although it was a non-sequitur. Not a bad episode. Right up there with the post MLB draft coverage.
The Ruthless People shout out was fun by growltiger	Jun 9th, 2009 09:21:00 PM
Until one considers it was already done 2 decades ago. Is that it for Quinn?
She Taught Her Kids Not to Care by _Maltheus_	Jun 10th, 2009 09:20:16 AM
The most striking thing about that episode is how she taught her family to care for her about as much as she's cared for them. Hopefully that irony isn't lost on the writers as her actions have the same effect on the audience.
Flash mob by mimi1jb	Jun 10th, 2009 06:45:41 PM
I was disappointed in the first episode. But the flash mob was really cool. Ive been trying to find the name of the song everywhere with no luck...can anyone help?
This show looks terrible ... but I bought seasons by Itchy	Jun 12th, 2009 06:32:29 AM
1 through 3 on DVD because I know the ultimate payoff is some well-lit Mary Louise Parker titties. She might be the most fuckable 40+ chick out there.

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