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well thank god Tarantino is editing himself now
by BMacSmith
May 20th, 2009
01:56:15 AM
he's one of the greats, but he's also one of the most self indulgent directors alive. But if he has learned to cut shit out, then he may become a god.
Oblige him indeed
by deanbarry
May 20th, 2009
02:00:12 AM
Man...sick! Can't wait for this. looks like classic QT!
fucking awesome
by TheDark0Knight
May 20th, 2009
02:00:47 AM
Excellent
by Nexus-6
May 20th, 2009
02:01:37 AM
I can't wait for the reviews to start rolling in for this one.
Still not feeling it...
by WavingFlagsInSpace
May 20th, 2009
02:01:46 AM
..but I'll wait and see. Pitt just doesn't sit well in this, at all. He doesn't look right, and that's a major flaw in a visual medium.

by McSloan
May 20th, 2009
02:02:25 AM
Nice. Very nice.
tarantino confirmed run time is...
by JohnGaltShrugged
May 20th, 2009
02:03:30 AM
2hrs and 40 minutes for the Cannes screening and the version that releases in August will be 2hrs and 27 minutes.
Hmmmmmm
by sonnyfern
May 20th, 2009
02:05:22 AM
Allright...hated the script...but those clips aren't looking too bad. I just hope the Basterds actually have a bigger part in the movie than they did in the screenplay.
I liked the script
by JimBobCooter
May 20th, 2009
02:07:50 AM
But b/c I wasn't judging it as The Dirty Dozen. Hopefully the ads won't sell it that way either.

But these clips certainly ignore the B plot characters that take up the other half of the movie.

Tarantino...
by anthonywashere
May 20th, 2009
02:08:14 AM
knows how to entertain methinks. Oh wait, i mean 'Tarantina' is lame! And a one trick pony! Yeah, yeah! And he likes feet!! What a HACK!!
looks bloody tremendous, anticipation hereby increased
by pipergates
May 20th, 2009
02:11:54 AM
Wolfenstein would make a bitchin Nazi movie
by MANZILLA
May 20th, 2009
02:16:01 AM
Too bad it would probably end up being directed by Paul WS Anderson....
Looks cool
by kungfuhustler84
May 20th, 2009
02:16:14 AM
I enjoyed the script for what it was, an old school WWII romp. Looks like it's headed that way. Pitt did a good job of delivering some of those lines. I remember reading that part and being unable to imagine it out loud.
The reason the 2nd clip rocks
by JimBobCooter
May 20th, 2009
02:16:34 AM
It cuts before Eli Roth enters frame. :-)
This looks like it was filmed for TBS or something
by MANZILLA
May 20th, 2009
02:18:15 AM
Im not feeling Inglorious Basterds at all.
Good clips, thanks.
by zed261
May 20th, 2009
02:21:31 AM
Im also waiting for first reviews, it seems that everyone in Cannes is talking only about that freaking Anti-Christ, even Ebert has dedicated another blog entry to it. I hope IB is at least 2 and half hour long, I like long movies.
Let the Tarantino word fellatio begin...
by Wogga Wogga
May 20th, 2009
02:21:46 AM
as Mr Overrated Director gets lubed and lathered up for some real action. I just hope he can bring something worth watching, which he hasn't since... since... 1994... Yeah, I hope his 15 year dry-spell end with this. Break a leg.
WavingFlagsInSpace - how does he look wrong?
by BMacSmith
May 20th, 2009
02:22:29 AM
looks like he's got the dashing good ole boy WWII war hero thing down. i like it.
The first and third clip looked great...
by Continentalop
May 20th, 2009
02:26:21 AM
...but fuck, to see a bunch of American GIs cheer because they know a captured enemy soldier is going to be brutally killed because he respectfully refused to give away his comrades location just rubs me wrong.

Sorry for being a "hater" but I am just a firm believer in the US Army Field Manual and the Geneva Convention.

Brad Pitt's accent is horrendous
by ganymede3010
May 20th, 2009
02:27:56 AM
I doubt I"ll pay to see this. I've already paid to see enough kill the Nazi movies to last me 3 lifetimes. Nothing new, just news ways to see Nazi's die.
music doesn't fit
by Kobaal
May 20th, 2009
02:29:52 AM
spaghetti western? what?
What's wrong with the sound on clip three?
by CinExcite
May 20th, 2009
02:30:12 AM
All I can hear is a dog whining in the background, with Aldo and the woman mouthing dialogue. Does anyone else have this problem?
Kobaal
by zed261
May 20th, 2009
02:33:36 AM
music doesn't fit; spaghetti western? what? --> he told few times he is doing western with war iconography or something like that...
Valkyrie 2: Jew're gonna die, Hitler!
by drturing
May 20th, 2009
02:33:37 AM
Ooooo I've got chills.
by Grievey
May 20th, 2009
02:33:46 AM
fuck the haters on here who teem with jealousy.

I'm fucking excited.
Why does aicn...
by rost
May 20th, 2009
02:35:02 AM
never send anyone of their writers to Cannes?
that is.....
by AdzonVonMelk
May 20th, 2009
02:35:13 AM
actually looking not bad. qt didn´t step in that trap to deliver an "action-hero" - stuffed warmovie... it seems to be more like an old style (anti?)-war-movie... that could be cool. lets see. by the way: the guy in the first movie, who gets explained the "similarities" between rats and jews from Christoph Waltz is NOT Daniel Bruehl, i don´t know his name, but it is not Bruehl.
looks good, one thing though
by MorganLeafy
May 20th, 2009
02:38:13 AM
Germans really don't speak English that well (sorry Langhaarige). Despite everything, Tarantino has talent to spare, but I would like to see something more low-key from him. Because looking back, Jackie Brown was one fine movie.
sort of like 300 but set in WW2
by zooch
May 20th, 2009
02:39:25 AM
no mercy
still not feelin it..
by simondark
May 20th, 2009
02:40:54 AM
And dont call me a fucking hater because i think quentin preffers jerkin off to actual sex.If your smart enough youll know why I said that.I hate the way he always starts a title with...the new film by..ten years from now he'll look stupid when people try to watch this garbage.You dont see scorsese doing that,and hes a fucking genius.come to think of it I dont know anyoine else who does that.
I'll be lapping this up
by corplhicks
May 20th, 2009
02:41:20 AM
Considering that the German government, including Nazi Germany for a time, was responsible for 2 world wars and about 100,000,000 dead people overall, it will be a long time before my thirst to watch them die is quenched. Bring it on and let's have popcorn Tarantino style fun ! By the way, the Blu Ray Band of Brothers rocks !
John Carpenter does it
by palimpsest
May 20th, 2009
02:44:01 AM
He loves the possessory credit, does John.
rost
by HEADGEEK
May 20th, 2009
02:45:07 AM
I've gone three times now. Honestly, I don't enjoy the audiences there. They are there to JUDGE everything and seemingly not to ENJOY any of it. Just the vibe I pulled. Talked about sending Quint this year, but didn't book the travel and hotels in time. I think Quint will be our next traveler to Cannes.
corplhicks
by HEADGEEK
May 20th, 2009
02:46:20 AM
Yes, BluRay BAND OF BROTHERS is fucking awesome! It was like seeing it all anew. Beautiful.
there's a dog whining in the third clip.
by ImMorganFreeman
May 20th, 2009
02:49:04 AM
I'm excited about a restrained QT.
Will it be okay to watch those clips?
by Bastard_In_A_Blanket
May 20th, 2009
02:49:29 AM
I haven't read the script, and I don't want it to be spoiled for me. Should I watch them???
corplhicks
by Continentalop
May 20th, 2009
02:52:19 AM
I'm gonna play Devil's Advocate and ask does that make it alright for other countries to show US soldiers getting brutally killed considering we invaded a country for bogus reasons?
Bastard_In_A-Blanket
by HEADGEEK
May 20th, 2009
02:52:47 AM
I'd recommend skipping that last one, it reveals a twist. The other two do not.
A new film by...
by SunTzu77
May 20th, 2009
02:58:04 AM
Obviously "a new film" is being used very loosely here... it's just a remake. Robert Richardson looks like he's delivered the goods once again... awesome DP. As far as my reaction to the film itself thus far? Meh.
What Harry said about Cannes,
by MorganLeafy
May 20th, 2009
03:04:05 AM
might be true. Just read Von Trier got booed because Antichrist was too gory and disturbing. Off course, when confronted with an angry critic, he simply replied he was the best director in the world. Maybe not the best reply
HEADGEEK
by Bastard_In_A_Blanket
May 20th, 2009
03:11:47 AM
Nice one. ;)
KILL BILL was a load of crap
by Hey_Zeus
May 20th, 2009
03:13:33 AM
just wait for them to split this film from two hours into three ninety-minute features.

Why release one carefully scripted masterpiece when you could ruin the tempo and extend it into a trilogy.

"will there be any deleted scenes Quentin?"

"sure thing, all the way through the movie!"

Hmmmm, I actually wanted Tarantino to go all out
by IndustryKiller!
May 20th, 2009
03:15:05 AM
The script was so god damned awesome I would have taken stylized Quentin any day. There seems to be this weird school of thought from some people at AICN that style is a bad thing. COnsidering how little we get it and that we only seem to get it from the masters I' will take it any day of hte week. It's not like they are using insane crane shots while a character is making breakfast. With Tarantino or Scorsese or whomever it all comes right from the story. There is no need for restraint from any of these guys, Tarantino included, when their output is so god damned strong. What hurt Death Proof was a lack of restraint int eh script, the filmmaking itself was top notch. Inglourious has no such script issues.
I was one of the doubters
by Bastard_In_A_Blanket
May 20th, 2009
03:17:08 AM
But I'm coming round. It's looking good.
And Kill Bill works like jazz as two films
by IndustryKiller!
May 20th, 2009
03:18:16 AM
Each works wonderfully asa stand alone film. I can't think of a single thing I would cut from either of those films. Fucking modern movie audiences and their ADD bullshit. I still hear from people that There Will Be Blood was "boring". At least shit like that let's me know immediately that I can disregard their cinematic opnion.
Kill Bill was great, so my opinion cancels out yours
by BMacSmith
May 20th, 2009
03:18:20 AM
its like voting, only voting matters slightly less.
Let the dick sucking commence.....
by masteryoda007
May 20th, 2009
03:19:23 AM
Morganleafy, the guy playing Landa IS actually German
by IndustryKiller!
May 20th, 2009
03:19:58 AM
And he speaks English that well. So I guess they do.
no "the expendables" not interested!
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
03:21:09 AM
this will bomb hard!
IndustryKiller!
by HEADGEEK
May 20th, 2009
03:21:19 AM
Totally get what you're saying. Boring is what the fuck happened to TERMINATOR SALVATION, not a brilliant film like THERE WILL BE BLOOD.
Call me a thicky, but...
by BiggusDickus
May 20th, 2009
03:21:31 AM
Why 'Inglourious Basterds' as opposed to 'Inglorious Bastards'?

Is Noddy Holder in it? Oh Noddy! Look Wot U Dun...

pitt, roth, myers, schweiger,kruger...?NOT INTERESTED!!!!
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
03:22:24 AM
all no go actors!
I'm worried about Pitt's southern accent
by awepittance
May 20th, 2009
03:22:43 AM
it really didn't help suck me into Benjamin Button and it looks equally as spotty
tarantina only makes chick flicks these days!
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
03:22:45 AM
IndustryKiller!
by Continentalop
May 20th, 2009
03:22:50 AM
The all learned English after the war, thanks to the fact that we occupied them and had army bases there for over 60 years now.

But I just see that as one of those movie convenient things. You know, like in Casablanca when the couple that plans to immigrant to America says they are only going to speak English so they can practice.

I'm always like, "Well isn't that polite of them to speak English so I can understand."

is it a minority opinion to say Jackie Brown was his best film?
by awepittance
May 20th, 2009
03:23:42 AM
it's the one that holds up the most for me and has some heart to it.
nein, nein nein nein nein, wont watch it!
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
03:24:26 AM
looks like a cheapo direct to dvd movie or a tv movie!
I agree with you awepittance
by Continentalop
May 20th, 2009
03:24:41 AM
That seemed like his most mature film to me.
Cannes will probably pan this but I will love it.
by CENOBITE
May 20th, 2009
03:27:11 AM
Any film with those motorcycle Germans with the large trenchcoats and goggles gets me all hot.
if germans speak english that just doesnt sounds any good!
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
03:27:30 AM
they suck in it hard, like this chick flick will! spare your money and it give to "the expendables"! sly deserves much more every support!
muri71, aren't you German?
by Continentalop
May 20th, 2009
03:28:17 AM
spare your money & give to "the expendables"
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
03:28:48 AM
nuff said!
nah i live in germany
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
03:29:30 AM
that doesnt makes me quiet german!;)
the movie's opening credit's should play the german national ant
by awepittance
May 20th, 2009
03:29:52 AM
to remind me of a my childhood playing wolfenstein 3d
Jackie Brown was 2 hours of people walking
by BMacSmith
May 20th, 2009
03:29:56 AM
nah, it was ok. Tarantino has never made a movie i didnt like, but its my second least favorite. The shots that worked so well in Pulp Fiction were just tedious in JB. Like when Bruce Willis is walking back to the apartment. that built up the drama. in Jackie Brown it was just a dude walking. didnt do shit. Plus it was too hung up on the 70s. i give it a C.
DELIVERANCE does not exist in this dojo
by Cobra--Kai
May 20th, 2009
03:30:36 AM
Anyone else think the second clip plays out like a scene from DELIVERANCE?

Brad Pitt and his whooping goons are round that German soldier like a bunch of would-be rapists. It cuts off before Eli Roth comes out for the final 'squeal piggy' moment.

Sorry, but give me the integrity of BAND OF BROTHERS anyday over the murderous hillbilly squad seen here.

Think i'll be cheering on the Nazis.

Hang on....the clips panels above are spelt correctly.
by BiggusDickus
May 20th, 2009
03:30:54 AM
What's going on? Me are confused.
Kubrick had the balls to have german with no subtitles
by awepittance
May 20th, 2009
03:31:16 AM
in Barry Lyndon, but i don't expect other filmmakers to have balls that huge
"pulp" was his last full good movie...
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
03:32:15 AM
after that, 4 chick movies in a row = über crap!
poor Germans.
by BMacSmith
May 20th, 2009
03:32:46 AM
Too bad they arent a different color or something. You cant even bash Russians anymore because commies get all pissy about it. Whenever you need a politically correct enemy to kill, just call ze Germans.
dieser film ist scheiße!
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
03:34:14 AM
:)
re: Cobra--Kai on Deliverance similarities
by awepittance
May 20th, 2009
03:34:16 AM
this is strange but when i saw the second clip i thought of Munich, you know showing how the traditional victim can be just as vindictive or violent as the enemy but in a cartoonish exploitation 70s movie way
oh how wonder, tarantina only steals, always did!
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
03:35:01 AM
and fuck having Germans speak German
by BMacSmith
May 20th, 2009
03:35:59 AM
If the actors can act well with English, and as a viewer i need to know what they are saying, then fuck foreign languages and fuck subtitles.
to those that aren't down with the PLEASURE of killing nazis....
by JohnGaltShrugged
May 20th, 2009
03:36:44 AM
you're nuts and/or stupid. Nazi's are NOT people too. if you say they are... well you're just plain wrong. Nazi's deserve to be killed and it is righteous to glorify their slaughter.
An anti-fascist movie for fascists
by No Respectable Gentleman
May 20th, 2009
03:36:48 AM
Bizarre even by QT's standards,
Cobra--Kai does not exist in this dojo
by Continentalop
May 20th, 2009
03:37:20 AM
Thank you. I was wondering if anyone else was disturbed by the lack of morality and decency of the "protagonist."

And, yeah, I know it is just a movie. But so was Birth of a Nation and Triumph of the Will.

eli roth = not interested!
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
03:38:23 AM
no go/none actor = no talent! makes keanu reeves look like de niro!
Tarantino is full of shit. Fuck him to hell.
by Motoko Kusanagi
May 20th, 2009
03:38:53 AM
Not every German was a nazi back then, for fucks sake!

Fuck Tarantino and his fucking racist fuckfest to hell.

m.myers = not interested!
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
03:39:32 AM
no go/none actor = no talent! makes ben affleck look like pacino!
til schweiger = not interested!
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
03:40:34 AM
no go/none actor = no talent! makes matt damon look like daniel day lewis!
JohnGaltShrugged
by Continentalop
May 20th, 2009
03:41:24 AM
Sorry there but I do think you stoop to the enemies level. It is something called "humanity."
daniel brühl = not interested!
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
03:41:47 AM
no go/none actor = no talent! makes shia look like gary oldman!
HARRY!
by Liquid Meddle
May 20th, 2009
03:43:57 AM
I take it you didn't like TERMINATOR SALVATION?
I'm tremendously confident...
by VicenzoV
May 20th, 2009
03:44:00 AM
...this movie will be sort of okay.

That's what Tarantino settles for these days, anyhow.

diane kruger = not interested!
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
03:44:25 AM
no go "actress"/model = no talent! makes jessica alba look like meryl streep!
pitt makes tom crusie look like brando!
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
03:45:04 AM
pitt makes tom crusie look like brando!
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
03:45:34 AM
well oscar schindler was a nazi,sort off!;)
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
03:47:51 AM
and look what he did!;)
But TurdontheRun
by Continentalop
May 20th, 2009
03:50:22 AM
Why does that allow QT a free pass? I mean, he did a remake of Birth of a Nation or an adaptation of the Turner Diaries, are we just supposed to sit around and say "Well, it is just Tarantino, he has never been known to be Politically Correct or tasteful"?
not all nazis were like in indy jones, wake up people!
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
03:50:29 AM
thats just stupid! a lot were nazis because they had to, they had no choice, do your history righT!
siblings scholl not nazis!;)
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
03:52:50 AM
it looks good, but if its really just a movie about
by BMacSmith
May 20th, 2009
03:56:39 AM
killing nazis in terrible ways, i'll pass. But im betting this movie is a little deeper than that.
so tarantina did another cliche movie, how new!
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
04:01:43 AM
its like every polish guy steals, every american is fat or likes wars, every english dude has bad teeth, every mexican is illeagl..., every russian drinks vodka, every german is a nazi...how great! isnt this world just perfect with this kind of thinking?!;) go and support stuff like that and in the next war if usa strikes antother poor country that didnt even tried to fight agingst america. i`ll say every american is just stupid for believeing the shit your covermeant tells you. "this country has dealdy oil, sorry i meant weapons, we have to strike in irac"!;) wont see this suck fest!
OK, realism
by MorganLeafy
May 20th, 2009
04:06:03 AM
isn’t real high on Tarantino’s list of priorities. But even in other movies foreigners always speak English like they have a degree in English philology. Well, I’ve lived in Germany for 2 years and they certainly don’t, not even the younger people. That’s not a knock on Germans per se, because the Americans I knew, guys with PhD’s, didn’t even speak a word of German after 3 years (I’m talking about you American Mike). Also they don’t know how to handle their beer.
So Harry, has the movie ended
by zed261
May 20th, 2009
04:09:08 AM
now? I have no twitter account...Did someone found any thoughts or short review...? I hope Ebert is there watching and not thinking about Anti-Christ now, he seems to be immersed in that one...
awepittance
by MorganLeafy
May 20th, 2009
04:10:57 AM
no, see post above. Certainly proves that Tarantino is not a one trick pony, kinda like Lynch did with A Straight Story or Kitano with Kikujirô
Obsessed With Film have seen the movie...
by mattyholmes
May 20th, 2009
04:13:02 AM
Just came out of Cannes screening... Inglorious Basterds - Absolute F**CKING quality! http://twitter.com/owfilm
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
by Executor
May 20th, 2009
04:19:55 AM
His dialogue is so fucking awkward lately. "There are two developments. 1: blah blah blah. Which bring us to the second." Who the fuck talks like that???

His movies lately are good for one viewing...where there is a ton of tension from basically not knowing where he's going. He's good at throwing in a lot of unpredicability and sudden violence. But once you've seen it and know where it's going, it is GOT DAMNED PAINFUL watching it again, wading through scene after scene of stylized overindulgent dialogue to get to the few nuggets of true drama.

This looks like more of the same...a return to "Death Proof" QT instead of "Pulp" QT.

It's not that his movies suck, I'm not a complete hater, it's just the promise of his early brilliance was never fulfilled. Now he just churns out really beautifully shot B-movies.

May i make a point?
by alecogden
May 20th, 2009
04:24:37 AM
SPOILER! Firstly, for everyone complaining about the lack of authentic languages and subtitles im sure you'd like to know that in the script the only part of dialouge you see in english is the bit shown in the clip as the family hiding under the floorboards dont speak fucking english. SO stop bitching, also theres a hell of a lot of french and german in this film. The expendables will be crap, poorly directed, remake of the italian job style wankery where 8 guys who are so muscle bound get together and try to pronouce a fucking word with more than two syllables in it. Have faith in quentin. I hope hes going to deliver like the script. Trust!
you ant a movie about killing nazis watcht valkyrie
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
04:25:46 AM
its about nazis trying to kill nazis and in the end nazis die, cant get better than this!;) at least it has the better cast!!!!
yeah with german no go actors like schweiger...
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
04:27:55 AM
do i need to say more?!
no movie with schweiger was any good
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
04:28:52 AM
eli roth is a no talent, so is diane kruger how in what kind of universe could this movie be good?
Silly german accents
by Roderich
May 20th, 2009
04:32:38 AM
Just for the record: Diane Kruger and Christoph Waltz are perfectely able to speak english without sounding like a mad scientist from some old comic book.

Which makes this movie just more fun, i think, it's not to be taken serious at all (and I AM from germany). Although killing captives who surrendered - or negotiators as Aragorn did with Sauron's mouth in Jackson's LOTR3 - never seems right to me, devilish nazis, evil subdemons or not. Although german soldiers in WW2 surely did that too, and probably more than others. Doesn't make it right, still.

Initial reactions to the Cannes debut of Basterds
by alucardvsdracula
May 20th, 2009
04:33:18 AM
Seems pretty mixed from what people are saying. Audience wasn't cheering, but no boo's either. The action scenes are very minimal aparantly and the talking, as you'd expect, goes on forever. Sounds like a WW2 Death Proof then? Oh well.
I jizzed a little
by DrunkyMcLush
May 20th, 2009
04:37:12 AM
in my pants when I saw those clips. Sure, I enjoyed the Kill Bill movies (especially Vol. 2), but they weren't like his earlier works and I hate to say it, but I hated Grindhouse. These clips make me feel like not only is Quentin back in top form, but it looks like he may even exceed his previous films with this one..... I am trying not to count my chickens before they hatch though.... they could have just been good parts of the movie.......
I'd like "Pulp" QT to take a bat to the head of...
by BurnHollywood
May 20th, 2009
04:37:39 AM
..."Death Proof" QT. Whatever happened to that guy? Man, I miss him...
It's simple...
by chuffsterUK
May 20th, 2009
04:39:11 AM
..Harry+Tarantino=fwends,so great publicity and reviews,regardless. Harry+MCG=not fwends,so Harry rips apart a damn entertaining movie(see for yourself),Terminator Salvation...
TurdontheRun
by Continentalop
May 20th, 2009
04:59:12 AM
1) I never said that QT is a racist. I was just saying why we can’t question his film like we would those two? Is it because it is a “lark” and he “isn’t serious” that somehow protects him from criticism of being offensive and immoral? To quote Kurt Vonnegot “You are what you pretend to be.” What is the difference between a film pretending to a propaganda piece and one that is a propaganda piece? 2) Indiana Jones never killed captured Nazi’s or butchered them after they surrendered. If he did kill them it was during combat or to save his own or someone else’s life. And when they were finally massacred at the end that was the “Wrath of God” brought down upon them by their own actions. You could argue that it literally was “Let God Decide How They Should Be Punished.” 3) In Saving Private Ryan when the soldier’s kill the surrendering Germans, that was to show the truth about war. It wasn’t a statement about the morality of it or how we should conduct ourselves. Brad Pitt’s character makes speech that he wants them to go off and kill Nazis and scalp them, he is explicitly endorsing the idea that we should go off and butcher and kill our enemy. Why? Because it is “cool” and “fun.” 4) Plus the idea QT being ambiguous and creating ambivalent feelings to make us think more reminds me of what Nietzsche said: poets are those who muddy the waters to make them appear deep. I don’t think QT is doing this to make it a deeper movie, he does this to cover his ass against criticism.

And just so you know, I am no prude who is against violence or controversial movies. I love the original Get Carter, Sopranos, Clockwork Orange, Happiness, etc. And I am actually a fan of QT’s first three films. However, I also believe that all the films I just listed their characters existed in their own universe and their moral guidelines fit the rules of their world. Michael Corleone operates by the moral code of a mafia world; Walker from Point Blank operates by the code of the professional thief; The Man With No Name operates under the code of the hired gunfighter.

These character’s exist in the universe of the US Army during WWII and their actions do not fit the moral guidelines of people in that world. Yes, there were people who shot and killed Nazis, even captured Nazis, but these people were acting outside of the guidelines set by US command and their actions were looked upon understandable but immoral. Brad Pitt and his gang are shown as the moral force, as the good guys, and the movie apparently makes no attempt to show that what they are doing is in fact wrong or that they are acting “unprofessional.” You want to show them as a bunch of soldiers who have gone off the reservation and are butchering the enemy, fine – don’t try to peddle to me these are heroes or that we should cheer them on. From what I have seen he isn’t trying to show us how much like the fascist we are but instead just saying “isn’t it fucking cool to kill people in a brutal fashion”.

I for one say “No dickhead. Grow the fuck up.”

Too bad, Harry...my BASTERDS money is going for SALVATION
by BurnHollywood
May 20th, 2009
04:59:16 AM
Har!
Terminator Salv... a damn entertaining movie?
by alucardvsdracula
May 20th, 2009
04:59:38 AM
Mr chuffster, you must have been watching the OTHER Terminator Salvation, cause the one I saw sucked. And sucked hard. Painful, obvious and kiddy porn friendly. Not that there isn't room for such moronic popcorn fluff. Dickheads such as yourself are living proof that the talentless whores in Hollywood have done their research well. Can't wait to see you in line for GI Joe, fucker.
Student aping Tarantino...
by Jackson Healy
May 20th, 2009
05:12:12 AM
Is it just me, or do these clips, especially the ones with Brad Pitt, look like a first year film student aping QT? The first clip, with the Hans Landa character interrogating the French farmer, actually plays fine, though the selection of background music really just doesn't quite do it for me. But that's neither here, nor there. Brad Pitt just doesn't play as Aldo Raine. Pitt doesn't pull off Quentin's lines the way other actors have. His scenes feel so stilted and amateurishly done. I mean, compare Pitt in his scenes here, with, say, Christopher Walken in his classic cameo as the Don in True Romance. Walken came out of his mother's womb to play that scene. Not so much Pitt in BASTERDS. Of course, I'll withhold judgment until after I see the film, but these clips with Pitt center stage have me worried.
Jackson Healy
by WavingFlagsInSpace
May 20th, 2009
05:26:45 AM
I couldn't agree more. Pitt's delivery is abysmal, but it was probably too much to expect from a failed journalism and advertising student...but it's another case of name and look superceding talent.

Is it wrong of me to suggest that casting Brad Pitt in this film probably helped secure a certain budget, marketing fund and guaranteed release? Rather than casting a good actor for the role they cast a movie star.

Reviews up!!
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
05:29:13 AM
total film and empire both loved it!
chuffsteruk
by HEADGEEK
May 20th, 2009
05:32:41 AM
interesting theory. McG came to my BNAT / Birthday event. Gave me an actual Terminator head from the film that's eyes light up brilliantly. McG called me personally to give me the exclusive on Christian Bale. Up until seeing the film I have been accused of being a shill for the film, because of how excited I was. And yet... despite all of that. My review tears the film to shreds, because that's what the film deserves. And yes, I know writing the review will most likely result in hurt feelings on McG's side, but goddammit - that film is a flaming turd that I can't quite shit out!
alucardvsdracula
by chuffsterUK
May 20th, 2009
05:32:58 AM
What a miserable,sad cunt you are:)
Fair enough then Harry...
by chuffsterUK
May 20th, 2009
05:36:32 AM
..I guess our opinions wildly differ on that film,and I apologise for my comment. And at the end of the day,personal opinion is all that matters and I respect you for that. Cheers.
Ahh...
by SunTzu77
May 20th, 2009
05:39:10 AM
yes ... yes ... QT's IB has nothing in common with Enzo G. Castellari's film but the name... much like Ringo Lam's City on Fire and Reservoir Dogs. QT's formula = regurgitate dialogue and shots directly from The Bodyguard, City on Fire, Charley Varrick, Kiss Me Deady, American Boy, Lady Snowblood, Samurai Reincarnation, Shadow Warriors, Sex and Fury, They Call Her One Eye, etc. and claim it as his own.

by SunTzu77
May 20th, 2009
05:39:32 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film /2004/apr/06/features.dvdrevie ws
wow!
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
05:40:32 AM
http://www.empireonline.com/ne ws/story.asp?NID=24863
But, still...
by SunTzu77
May 20th, 2009
05:43:16 AM
Robert Richardson = the man. I'm anxious to see some stuff from "Shutter Island."
I love that he used L'Arena
by johnnylawless2
May 20th, 2009
05:44:47 AM
for the first clip. That was the best part of KB p2. But the actress in the last clip was awful.
harry...
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
05:45:15 AM
whens your terminator salv review up? inglorious looks amazing, after seeing clips, definately most anticipated film this yr
Guardian Article on QT...
by WavingFlagsInSpace
May 20th, 2009
05:47:48 AM
...was on the money: "he is the insecure nerd who would rather reassemble other "cool" movies than put anything of his own up on the screen."

How true - hopefully this movie will give him the confidence to find his own voice, rather than singing in the key of nostalgia (wanky wank writing intended, flamers).

to WavingFlagsInSpace
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
05:49:43 AM
enjoy GIJoe
Pitt's acting
by boredboringyawn
May 20th, 2009
05:51:05 AM
Brad Pitt doesn't have much range. so, he basically pulled out his Oceans character and gave him a southern accent? Idk... When I watch him instead of seeing his character all I see is Brad Pitt the Movie Star.
Pitt
by alxorange
May 20th, 2009
05:52:25 AM
Its hard to act convincingly when you have shit for dialog and its written unnaturally. It was cute for Pulp Fiction, but Tarantino's "one voice" writing style is wearing thin. Like Harrison Ford said on Star Wars, "You can write this shit, but you can't say it."
looks great
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
05:53:04 AM
Pitt looks great in this, whole film just looks great
alxorange
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
06:00:56 AM
and harrison ford is shit in star wars, which is a shit film
So Harry...
by SunTzu77
May 20th, 2009
06:02:47 AM
You're prairie doggin' TS? roflmao
tonethestone
by WavingFlagsInSpace
May 20th, 2009
06:09:19 AM
That's so polite of you. Thank you. To be honest I'd probably be more likely to pay money to watch shit dry than go and see 'GI Joe' at the cinema.

I have no idea what 'GI Joe' has to do with this film but your good manners deserve some praise. You have a good time watching 'Inglourious Basterds', I'm sure gulping down plagiarism masquerading as intertextuality via QT's colon is just your kind of thing...

WavingFlagsInSpace
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
06:10:42 AM
nice one, thanks.
According to the Twit Reports
by deanbarry
May 20th, 2009
06:10:44 AM
INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS is kinda Glorious!
deanbarry
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
06:12:50 AM
any links to the twitter reviews?
Lemme guess-Cokey gets a pass on this one--
by Sal_Bando
May 20th, 2009
06:14:00 AM
the only way AICN will NOT spooge all over this is if he actually, you know, gave Tim Rothman the final cut say.
and can we have the Salvation
by johnnylawless2
May 20th, 2009
06:16:28 AM
reviews, or is McG making us wait for a couple of hundred thousand people to go see this (apparent) turd before the reviews are allowed out?? C'mon, I don't want to have to rely on Rotten Tomatoes.
jackie brown is my fave
by TheExterminator
May 20th, 2009
06:17:00 AM
qt film, with dogs second..will watch this but the cast doesn't enthuse me at all. disappointed to hear TS is shit
Reviews
by chuffsterUK
May 20th, 2009
06:21:13 AM
Just a query. Do you all rely on reviews before seeing a movie,or do you just go and see it and form your own opinion afterwards? That isn't meant to come of as a rant or sarcasm,just genuinely interested. I don't think people here in the UK take much notice of reviewers,that's all:)
First clip was brilliant
by MontyPigeon
May 20th, 2009
06:23:15 AM
Then Pitt started talking in the second clip and everything went downhill.
Boys Pitt SUCKS in those.
by Sal_Bando
May 20th, 2009
06:26:06 AM
DANG! "Whut we Gots here-is Failure-tew kohMyooniKate! We Wants to kil us-a KRAUT! DONNEEE! Come git this guy an' bring yer BAT!"

BOOOO! BOOOO! BOOOOO! Cokey YOU SUCK!!!!!!

There! That saved me a heap of trouble. THIS--needed another dialogue guy. I do like our lady from Troy but still. I'll pass. Mikey Bay time.

Rope Of Silicon review TERMINATOR SALVATION1
by Bastard_In_A_Blanket
May 20th, 2009
06:29:22 AM
http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/a rticle/movie-review-terminator -salvation -2009
chuffsterUK
by WavingFlagsInSpace
May 20th, 2009
06:31:35 AM
I'm a Londoner and tend to ignore reviews from this site, Empire and Total Film: all three are in bed with certain directors and studios. I'll read them in Smiths or Waterstones when waiting for a train/the girlfriend.

It always fucks me off when Empire spend months hyping Lucas' new film or suckling at the teet of Spielberg/Bay or whoever has a marquee feature on the horizon and those films turn out to be the pile of gash everyone with any sense knew they would be. But wtf, they make loads of money at the box office and help sell more magazines.

Do you read Little White Lies? Now that's a film magazine to enjoy because it understands the importance of independence.

Harry here has been selling his soul to set visits and movie mates for years, there is no independent integrity to be found on this site other than in these Talkbacks which are, always, very fucking funny and informative...

My nazi senses are tingling
by XPussyGaloreX
May 20th, 2009
06:32:09 AM
Holy unbridled hotness! But when they fuck will Hitler Kaput come out on dvd with english subtitles. These films back to back would be the ultimate third reich loving double feature.
WavingFlagsInSpace
by chuffsterUK
May 20th, 2009
06:35:27 AM
Thanks mate,I'll shall seek the mag out. I agree about the Talbacks.I suspect 98% are laughing like the rest of us and would gladly go out for a pint,the other 2%,are genuine fucking pyschos!!
Alternative look from Total Film
by chuffsterUK
May 20th, 2009
06:35:51 AM
WavingFlagsInSpace
Oops!
by chuffsterUK
May 20th, 2009
06:36:46 AM
http://www.totalfilm.com/news/ cannes-2009-inglourious-baster ds-second-reaction
I'm from Cardiff, Chuffster
by johnnylawless2
May 20th, 2009
06:38:41 AM
and no, I wouldn't say I pay that much attention to reviews. They certainly aren't a factor in whether I go to see a film or not, usually i've made my mind up myself depending on interest in the story/writer/actors etc. For example, Fight Club i'd have gone to see no matter what I heard, Basterds too. Some films i've no intention of going to see, and some i'd consider were word to get out that a director had pulled something unexpected out of the hat. After being able to piece together the entire plot of Salvation after watching the trailers and clips on a Pizza Hut website, my hopes were not high (and my inner Bill Hicks was furious) but i'd -for now- be interested to hear Harry's thoughts on T4 - if they're not held back by some asinine 'embargo' bullshit (which makes a mockery of this site, btw) and if they appear in enough time to give people who aren't as obsessed and don't read up on film as much as we do (ie 99% of the movie-going public) the chance to hear that perhaps this film isn't the best out there, and perhaps they should spend their money on something else, so we don't get a 200 million gross and eight more terminator films, each more shite than the last. They won't read the site, but a higher profile site like AICN would have some word of mouth effect, i'd say. Considering Harry has already trashed the film in here, it is a bit pointless to hold back on the review.

But hey, now i'm ranting. And if the T4 review is up by the time I finished writing this, then hey, i'm the asshole.

Empire
by Continentalop
May 20th, 2009
06:40:14 AM
I could never take Empire seriously after they ranked Trainspotting as a more important and influential movie of the 90s than GoodFellas. Trainspotting is good, but lets be honest, half the shit Danny Boyle did in that film he learned by watching a Scorsese film.
Thanks lads.
by chuffsterUK
May 20th, 2009
06:41:30 AM
Just as I thought:)
QT gets a pass every time.
by Stuntcock Mike
May 20th, 2009
06:42:09 AM
His films are 100% watchable.
chuffsterUK
by WavingFlagsInSpace
May 20th, 2009
06:43:31 AM
Thanks for the link. It'll be interesting to see what gets published in their magazine review...QT is certainly very accomplished, so even he'd have to go a long way (or to Eli Roth) to fuck up a movie!
twitter
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
06:48:49 AM
anyone have any links to reviews on twitter for IB?
Empire's got first impressions up
by henrydalton
May 20th, 2009
06:50:54 AM
on their site. And it's very positive, thank goodness.
Empire review
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
06:53:51 AM
http://www.empireonline.com/fe atures/cannes2009/Post.asp?id= 537
Empire
by johnnylawless2
May 20th, 2009
06:53:57 AM
has been going downhill for years but it really went all out in trying to be shit in the past two. The urge to find the lowest common denominator is evident, as it becomes more tabloidy with each issue and the reviews less informed with more spin. Also, each month it gets thinner (yet with a higher page proportion of adverts and those godfuckingawful corporate tie ins that try to pretend to be an article ie Tag Heuer or JD fucking Sports trying to tell us about Bond movies or a Danny Dyer film) but the price continues it's upward crawl. Kim Newman is good as ever, I wonder if he ever thinks about jumping ship.

Maybe it is just a general trend though. Q magazine is heading downwards too, though not at as fast a rate; and, for all i've said, I keep buying them. Mainly because i've got subscriptions and I am a lazy man but I really do need to let my wallet do the talking. I've tried all the others, and they're just as bad. I've just got this trace memory of Empire when I was a kid and I used to be excited around the 23rd/24th of the month when I knew it was going to hit the shelves (it always changed by a day or two every month, or whenever they could be arsed to send a shipment crawling all the way to Tenby, West Wales

chuffsteruk
by SunTzu77
May 20th, 2009
06:54:09 AM
thanks for the link... interesting read.
Looks fucking great
by beatleMatt
May 20th, 2009
06:54:24 AM
Other than Death Proof (which did have some great moments in it) I've loved everything QT had done. This will be brilliant.
You should trust an 'Empire
by johnnylawless2
May 20th, 2009
06:57:50 AM
First Impressions Review' as much as you'd trust Gordon Brown. Then you can laugh knowingly in six months time when Empire display remarkable amounts of scrotum when they self-righteously destroy Salvation in the DVD reviews (they're not burning any bridges when everyone else has already said something is a turd).
Little White Lies
by WavingFlagsInSpace
May 20th, 2009
07:04:03 AM
Guys, it would be impossible to overstate how good a film magazine 'Little White Lies' actually is...and I have no vested interest in the product other than appreciating its quality. Check out the website: www.littlewhitelies.co.uk

jo hnnylawless2 you are spot on in your assessment of Empire. It bothers me that Kim Newman won't get himself on a more respectable publication - he's a fantastic film journalist. I guess maybe the paycheque = golden handcuffs? Who knows...

And no amount of goodness can rescue such a film as Basterds from that clusterfuck Roth and Brad Pitt's hideous delivery: it's Sofia Coppola in Part III all over again...*cough*, *cough*

empire
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
07:07:07 AM
great mag. think they will bash terminator salvation in the cinema reviews let alone the dvd reviews, its being bashed everywhere, because the film is shit.
Little White Lies vs Empire
by 5onthe5
May 20th, 2009
07:11:27 AM
Whenever I flick through Little White Lies in the shop, it looks like interesting content let down by so-achingly-hip-it's-actually- borderline-unreadable page design and typefaces. So I never buy it. It screams "wanker" from the page. Empire is still OK - it's hasn't gone anywhere NEAR as duff as Q magazine. What I like about Empire is the same thing i like about AICN - willing to judge films on their own terms; not sneery about mainstream cinema.
this looks fuckin' awesome.
by champvinyl
May 20th, 2009
07:15:46 AM
... the only thing I'm not so keen on is the overdone accents but given it looks like Ww2 pulp insanity i can understand the choice.

what would be even better is if this offended the hell outta people. Long live socially challenging films.

Little White Lies
by johnnylawless2
May 20th, 2009
07:18:03 AM
sounds interesting, haven't heard of it.

But the dreaded 'hip' word worries me. This conjures up images of it being about 7 inches tall, half a centimetre thick, £7.50 an issue and printed at a 'cool' coffee shop/nightclub in Reykjavik.

WavingFlags, that said
by johnnylawless2
May 20th, 2009
07:21:10 AM
i'll give it a go!
Roger Ebert just reviewed T4
by SunTzu77
May 20th, 2009
07:24:06 AM
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com / --- 2 stars -- "I know with a certainty approaching dread that all of my questions will be explained to me in long detailed messages from "Terminator" experts. They also will charge me with not seeing the movie before I reviewed it. Believe me, I would have enjoyed traveling forward through time for two hours, starting just before I saw the movie. But in regard to the answers to my questions: You know what? I don't care."
Empire has been going downhill for years
by zapano
May 20th, 2009
07:24:14 AM
Still, it's very redeable. Growing up it was my bible and I would buy it every month. I stopped buying for a copuple of years but now I've gone back to buying it, around every second issue, if the content interests me.

it used to be a solid judge of films, but now you can't trust it, and I'm defnitely not trusting this first impression thingy. I'm gunning for a massive Tarantino comeback and I have a sneaking suspicion that this could be it, but I'm gonna wait for a few reviews reviews from this screening before I get my hopes up.

I'm not surprised Fassbender is one of the standouts, he's gonna be the next big actor that will actually have a long and great career.

So what did Roger
by johnnylawless2
May 20th, 2009
07:25:42 AM
like best about it?
5onthe5
by WavingFlagsInSpace
May 20th, 2009
07:29:12 AM
Ahhhh...if it does scream wanker then I'm in trouble. But the old adage about books and covers applies here - the content is exemplary. And it only sells through a handful of outlets so needs to be as eye-catching as possible.

If that makes the publication 'wanky' then I guess it's doomed to be bought only be Shoreditch scenesters. And me.

And I don't think it's a matter of being sneery - I just can't stand the hypocrisy that has filtered down through both Empire and this website. Maybe I'm naive to expect anything less in our jaded and cynical world but if you can't keep your own fucking website above such 'kowtowing-to-the-man-antics' then it's a damn shame.

And Empire tend to only pass negative critical jugement after the fact...like in DVD reviews, etc.

Apparently Roger didn't like any of it much...
by SunTzu77
May 20th, 2009
07:36:18 AM
"One of Hollywood's oldest axioms teaches us: The story comes first. Watching "Terminator Salvation," it occurred to me that in the new Hollywood, the storyboard comes first. After scrutinizing the film, I offer you my summary of the story: Guy dies, finds himself resurrected, meets others, fights. That lasts for almost two hours."
Ebert can be bloody funny...
by WavingFlagsInSpace
May 20th, 2009
07:37:24 AM
..."It gives you all the pleasure of a video game without the bother of having to play it..."

What the hell was anyone expecting from the fourth film in a franchise directed by the guy who made Charlie's Angels. But isn't this EXACTLY what most of the people who want to see it were expecting? Sounds like McG did exactly what he was supposed to do...Was anybody expecting cutting-edge sci-fi? Something new and revolutionary?

ts
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
07:40:18 AM
i never had any hopes for TS mainly because of the director involved, until i saw the trailer which looked pretty good. shame its being bashed so much
first wolverine, now terminator, what next harry?
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
07:40:55 AM
"expendables"? funny thing is harry, you liked twilight the gayest movie ever and you gave this shit cast from "basterds" already the best review ever. between us i prefer a so so comic movie over a chick fest like "twilight" anytime. i prefer an action sci-fi movie with bale over this chick "deathproof" tarantina guy anytime! i guess you`ve lost ur roots harry, shouldnt you be a guy who likes comic and sci-fi movies way over chick flicks? whats wrong with you these days??????????
stop being corrupted by tarantina!
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
07:42:56 AM
its easy to hate things mcg does, well i really cant wait for ur review abut "basterds" its the day we will see how corrupt you are!
harrys doomsday will come with review abut basterds
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
07:43:41 AM
this day we will see the real harry!
muri71
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
07:43:47 AM
you would bash Harry if he wanked over every film, TS is getting bashed everywhere as did Wolverine which was so below a "so so comic movie".
looked up T2 and T3
by SunTzu77
May 20th, 2009
07:44:02 AM
ole Roger gave T2 three and a half....T3 two and a half. So, he thinks T4 is half a star crappier than T3, lol.
harry -buy one review (berlin trip) get 3 4 free!
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
07:44:56 AM
The reporter gives Basterds a pretty lame review
by zapano
May 20th, 2009
07:48:05 AM
expectations are down
chuffsterUK
by BurnHollywood
May 20th, 2009
07:49:22 AM
In answer to your reviewer question, hell no, I for one don't count on reviews, unless it's a toss-up on whether or not to go out or not.

Case in point: not seeing STAR TREK, have no plans to, and I'm seeing SALVATION no matter what anyone says. BASTERDS looks like more of the same QT masturbation, so fuck that, too.

Finally saw SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE last night on DVD and you know what? My instincts were right: It WAS last year's CRASH...middlebrow, liberal-baiting and predictable. THE WRESTLER was good shit, though, just like I knew it would be.

Critics are good for comparing notes, little else.

USA Today slams T4
by SunTzu77
May 20th, 2009
07:50:45 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/life/m ovies/reviews/2009-05-19-termi nator-salvation_N.htm -- "Bale is surprisingly one-dimensional as John Connor, the leader of the human Resistance movement whose destiny is linked to the future of mankind in this doomsday action franchise. He seems to be simply recycling his gravelly Dark Knight growl."
muri
by johnnylawless2
May 20th, 2009
07:51:12 AM
Bashing T4 yet praising Basterds may yet prove to be quite a popular standpoint. Say what you want about Tarantino's output, the guy is in a different country playing at a whole different sport to McG. I wouldn't use this as a basis to attack Harry's credentials. Try that Scriptgirl instead?
Getting curious now...
by SunTzu77
May 20th, 2009
07:51:12 AM
Interested to see what Harry says.
well i wouldnt bash on harry if he wouldnt support
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
07:52:14 AM
chick flicks like twilight as "good movies" or this tararntina shit fest with the worsed cast ever! i mean wolverine wasnt "fanta 4" or "electra" or "ghost rider". its a mediclore comic movie but way better than shitty "twilight"! same here, just because tarantina paid harrys trip to berlin, he already written a great review about this film, which even wasnt ready then, 2 month ago! what about his craft, he should be uncorrupt, untouchable. no one should pay for good reviews or stuff like that. same about the pimpimg of "star trek" man its the 25th movie about this shit and even if de niro was playing the vulcanian i coulndt care less. its been done in shows and movies over and over again. enuff is enuff. tarantina only steals, reboots shit that is out there for a long time, he never did any origin story about anything and thats genius????? yeah right!
Toronto Star slams T4
by SunTzu77
May 20th, 2009
07:53:23 AM
http://www.thestar.com/enterta inment - one and a half stars - "Terminator Salvation: It’s back, and it’s bad"
@johnny! no man didnt never compared mcg with quentin
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
07:55:24 AM
are u serious, i mean mcg only did shit movies. i give quenti the credit that he has 2 great movies, but his last 3 sucked ass! i was a fan of quentin, really, but he dissapointed me to often and enough of this shit chick flicks already!
The Guardian has thrashed Inglourious Basterds
by zapano
May 20th, 2009
07:55:52 AM
well that's it then
The Globe and Mail slams T4
by SunTzu77
May 20th, 2009
07:56:12 AM
http://www.theglobeandmail.com /arts/ - two stars - "What its predecessors had, this sequel sorely lacks"
muri71
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
07:56:48 AM
eh?! your rant doesnt make much sense, but you like harry and everyone are entitled to there own opinion.
The reporter gives Basterds a pretty lame review
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
07:57:35 AM
The reporter gives Basterds a pretty lame review by zapano May 20th, 2009 07:48:05 AM expectations are down
one dimensional is fine
by johnnylawless2
May 20th, 2009
07:58:18 AM
that's what i'd expect in a Future War movie. I can empathise. If that were me in the role of Connor, i'd be very one dimensional, and the dimension of character that I pick would be a steely determination bordering on mania to keep me and my people alive. Should he be stopping to cry at some litter? More films need to pick and choose the times in which they need to shoehorn in some characterisation. If one were to cut out twenty minutes of Saving Private Ryan, for example, we could have a balls out action picture.
The Guardian has thrashed Inglourious Basterds
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
07:58:33 AM
The Guardian has thrashed Inglourious Basterds by zapano May 20th, 2009 07:55:52 AM well that's it then
I HOPE YOU PEOPLE CAN READ same goes 2 u harry!;)
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
07:58:59 AM
Guardian
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
07:59:45 AM
same bloke gave mamma mia 4 stars, so hes got no hope in his life. very harsh review though, he prob wasnt allowed in to even see the film.
hehe re:Guardian
by johnnylawless2
May 20th, 2009
08:01:35 AM

by johnnylawless2
May 20th, 2009
08:04:22 AM
More likely his Prius ran out of smug or they wouldn't let them in with their pot of sustainably farmed foie gras.
Peter Bradshaw from the Guardian was a Tarantino fan
by zapano
May 20th, 2009
08:10:01 AM
He's a good reviewer

He says in his review, he was hoping it would be good, but it's not.

Peter Bradshaw didn't give Mamma Mia a good review, He gave it one star http://www.guardian.co.uk/cult ure/2008/jul/11/filmandmusic1. filmandmusic6 Mark Kermode did. Mamma Mia is a terrible movie, but very watchable. It's a so bad it's good.

zapano
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
08:12:23 AM
no way is mamma mia watchable. soz i got the reviewer wrongly attached to the mm review. its good though that 90% of the reviews are v positive for IB
Give it up, Muri71
by Talkbacker with no name
May 20th, 2009
08:13:19 AM
you only post so you can say 'tarantina' a billion times hoping it will catch on...it won't cause it's fucking shit! Please do try again in the future though, son.
basterds is a turkey (review) I HOPE U CAN READ?!;)
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
08:15:31 AM
Like the loyal German bourgeoisie in 1945, trying to keep patriotically cheerful despite the distant ominous rumblings of Russian tanks, we Tarantino fans have kept loyally optimistic on the Croisette this week. We ignored the rumourmongers, the alarmists and defeatists, and insisted that the Master would at the last moment fire a devastating V1 rocket of a movie which would lay waste to his, and our, detractors. But today the full catastrophe of his new film arrived like some colossal armour-plated turkey from hell. The city of our hopes is in flames. Quentin Tarantino's cod-WW2 shlocker about a Jewish-American revenge squad intent on killing Nazis in German-occupied France is awful. It is achtung-achtung-ach-mein-Gott atrocious. It isn't funny; it isn't exciting; it isn't a realistic war movie, yet neither is it an entertaining genre spoof or a clever counterfactual wartime yarn. It isn't emotionally involving or deliciously ironic or a brilliant tissue of trash-pop references. Nothing like that. Brad Pitt gives the worst performance of his life, with a permanent smirk as if he's had the left side of his jaw injected with cement, and which he must uncomfortably maintain for long scenes on camera without dialogue. And those all-important movie allusions are entirely without zing, being to stately stuff such as the wartime German UFA studio, GW Pabst etc, for which Tarantino has no feeling, displaying just a solemn Euro-cinephilia that his heart isn't in. The expression on my face in the auditorium as the lights finally went up was like that of the first-night's audience at Springtime for Hitler. Except that there is no one from Dusseldorf called Rolf to cheer us up. Pitt plays Lt Aldo Raine, the leader of an anti-Nazi commando unit whose avowed mission is to get 100 Kraut scalps apiece; we see the scalpings in full, gruesome detail, yet that figure is entirely forgotten about by the end. Mélanie Laurent plays Shosanna Dreyfus, a beautiful young Jewish woman whose family were slaughtered by SS Col Hans Landa, played by Christoph Waltz. She got away and (somehow) attained not only a new identity, but also ownership of a Paris cinema which is to play host to the premiere of Dr Goebbels's latest propaganda movie, in the presence of the Führer himself. Her plan is to incinerate the entire first-night audience by bolting the doors and igniting her vast inflammable stock of nitrate film. Meanwhile Lt Raine has his own plans for killing Hitler at the movie theatre and the Brits get involved too, in the form of suave Michael Fassbender as Archie Hicox, a crack commando making contact with exotic spy Bridget von Hammersmark, played by Diane Kruger. There are some nice-ish performances, particularly from Fassbender and Waltz, but everything is just so boring. I was hoping for Shosanna at least to get a satisfying revenge on the unspeakable Col Landa. But no. The two Hitler-assassination plots cancel each other out dramatically and the director's moderate reserves of narrative interest are exhausted way before the end. He should perhaps go back to making cheerfully inventive outrageous films like Kill Bill. Because Kill Adolf hasn't worked out. • Peter Bradshaw is the Guardian's film critic
LA Times - T4 mediocre
by SunTzu77
May 20th, 2009
08:18:11 AM
http://www.latimes.com/enterta inment/news/la-et-terminator20 -2009may20,0,3567865.story - "Director McG's energetic movie plays with elements from earlier in the franchise. But some of its soul has been lost."..."If you're a "Terminator" fan, though, "Salvation" is mostly worth it. The machines are mindless, yes, but there are enough pyrotechnics and heavy artillery to feel like Armageddon squared. And when the story starts to crumble around Bale, Worthington is there to pick up the pieces. At one point John asks Marcus, "Who are you?" Marcus looks at him with a knowing sadness and says: "I'm the only hope you have." Thankfully, he is enough."
I HOPE U CAN READ?
by Talkbacker with no name
May 20th, 2009
08:19:00 AM
Not anything you ever post again, muri71. You are a fucking loon!
I wouldn't take that Guardian review too seriously
by seppukudkurosawa
May 20th, 2009
08:21:00 AM
They also had an article a while back when the trailer came out entitled, "Inglourious Basterds: The worst movie ever made?" Based on a trailer...

First off, that's just ridiculous journalism; even AICN wouldn't stoop so low as to post a fully-formed opinion based on a trailer (incidentally, I wouldn't be surprised if articles like that are the Guardian's attempt to cash-in on the over-opinionated, under-researched blog boom that AICN helped kick off). Secondly, it seems pretty clear that they don't quite get/appreciate the intentionally shlocky tone Tarantino's going for here. And thirdly, that guy must have seen all of three movies. Manos: The Hands of Fate, anyone?

Seeing Pierce Brosnan sing is very watchable!
by zapano
May 20th, 2009
08:26:54 AM
It's one of the greatest moments in cinema history!

I was made see it but I must admit I came out with a spring in my step, and the whole cinema audience had a smile on their face.

It's cheap, it has terrible acting and singing, a dreadful story, and it's visually retarded, but somehow its watchable and you have a good time.

Empire review here:
by Bastard_In_A_Blanket
May 20th, 2009
08:28:58 AM
Empire has just seen Quentin Tarantino's eagerly-awaited WWII flick, Inglourious Basterds, and it's rather brilliant. Every bit as idiosyncratic as the spelling of its title, it's a wonderfully-acted movie that subverts expectation at every turn. And it may represent the most confident, audacious writing and directing of QT's career.

Forget what you think you know is such a cliché, but here it more than applies. Tarantino has made a career out of subverting expectations – this is the man who made a heist flick without a heist, after all – but he’s outdone himself with Basterds. It’s an action movie that has barely any action. The Basterds themselves, including Brad Pitt’s Lt. Aldo Raine, are off-screen for long periods of time. And it takes wild liberties with history.

But that’s all set up by the opening title card (the film is divided into five chapters), ‘Once Upon A Time In… Nazi-Occupied France’. Not only does that allow Tarantino to use Spaghetti Western-esque musical cues and swipe the odd shot and convention from the likes of Sergio Leone, but it frees him up to take those liberties. This is a fairytale world, in which American soldiers can ghost behind enemy lines, scalp hundreds of Nazis and never get caught. And in which… no, we won’t go there. Not yet. But the ending is so thrillingly audacious that this reporter laughed out loud when it happened. Even when, having read the script, I knew it was coming.

The performances are superb across-the-board. Pitt is hilarious throughout, lending his lines that air of cocky movie-star insouciance that was a touchstone of his turns in the Ocean’s movies. But the standouts for me were Michael Fassbender, who deserves to become a star on the basis of his turn as British officer Lt. Archie Hicox, and Christoph Waltz, as the movie’s villain, Col. Hans Landa, aka The Jew Hunter.

A complex creation, refined, calculating and yet utterly monstrous when the time comes, Landa was the role that Tarantino struggled to fill, so much so that he might have had to pass on making the movie had he not filled it. But in Waltz, he’s found gold. He may look like an evil Rob Brydon, but the Austrian actor is fantastic: oleaginous, chilling and often devilishly charming. He may be a shoo-in for a Best Supporting Oscar nom, and even though it’s mighty early yet, he could become the first actor to win for a Tarantino film.

There are flaws, of course – what film doesn’t have flaws? But they may be exaggerated depending on your feelings about Tarantino. Some of his Grindhouse flourishes – large captions stamped on screen, the usual flirting with structure and chronology, offbeat musical cues (a David Bowie track shows up at one point) and the sudden introduction of a hip narrator (Samuel L. Jackson) – may irk some, but this movie-movie approach has been Tarantino’s forte since Uma Thurman drew a box on the screen in Pulp Fiction.

It’s certainly very talky, and there’s no doubt that Tarantino is in love with the sound of his characters’ voices, but QT dialogue is so much better than most other screenwriters that it’s hard to quibble. If all scenes in movies are about control, Tarantino understands that perhaps better than anybody, and some of the scenes here – the opening exchange between Landa and a French dairy farmer, and the Reservoir Dogs-esque scene in French bar, La Louisiane – are masterclasses in how to switch control from character to character. Indeed, both scenes are as tense as anything Tarantino has ever done in his career.

Remember, though: this is not the official Empire review, simply a reaction to this morning’s screening. Empire’s official verdict may differ from mine, so bear that in mind.

a damn shame
by animas
May 20th, 2009
08:31:18 AM
i'll still see it, but looks like brad pitt completely ruined it
TimeOut review
by mulberry
May 20th, 2009
08:32:35 AM
Says it's a fun mess with a weak ending.

http://tinyurl.com/o4gzvj

Muri71
by TheMandrakeRoot
May 20th, 2009
08:40:46 AM
I dont think anyone here is talking you serious by calling him "Tarantina". That is an epic fail. That along with the fact that you claim just because of Death Proof he makes chick flicks, really shows you have no fucking idea what your talking about. Your clearly the type who is gonna love that McG wankfest.
If the review are lukewarm to good...
by Abone
May 20th, 2009
08:44:54 AM
I'm sure to love it.

by Cobra--Kai
May 20th, 2009
08:47:07 AM
INGLORIOUS BASTERDS "a colossal armour plated turkey from hell... awful."

Fuuuuck.

And that semi-positive Empire review... talk about an 'apologist' piece of writing. Empire have been in bed with QT for a long time and even gave the atrocious DEATH PROOF 4/5 stars.

The summer of our discontent rumbles on.

reviews
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
08:48:57 AM
reviews for IB have overall been terrific, which is great, cant wait to see it.
"a colossal armour plated turkey from hell... awful."
by Abone
May 20th, 2009
08:49:05 AM
Sounds delicious.
BMacSmith...I think you're mistaken
by ZoeFan
May 20th, 2009
08:50:06 AM
Long time Tarantino Editor "Evil" Sally Menke is the Editor of Ingloious Basterds as well. Just a correction. I'm not calling you out.
reviews
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
08:50:31 AM
its great when there have been at least 20+ comments and reviews saying how great IB is, then one twat from the Guardian of all places and everyone latches onto that one as the 'official overall review'. god this film looks great
reviews
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
08:51:55 AM
lets face it, even if this film were bad beyond belief it will still be better than Transformers 2
a lot of bad reviews overall I TOLD YA!;)
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
08:53:46 AM
for month i told ya this shit cast couldnt pull off anything and esp. with that chick flick autor tarantina!;) chick flick movie maker cus of: jacky brown, kill bill, deathproof, i.basterds!;)
@tonethestone
by Abone
May 20th, 2009
08:54:45 AM
Thank you! Fuck these negative nellys.
muri71
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
08:56:25 AM
talk english, stop thinking you are eminem, its not clever. go back to school.
Abone
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
08:57:41 AM
needed saying really, really pleased this film is getting alot of praise from the right trusted ppl, cant wait to see this film now.
which review is negative, muri71?
by Flip63Hole
May 20th, 2009
09:00:57 AM
still reading them. sounds interesting so far...
Overall a really POSITIVE response
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
09:01:42 AM
well done QT
reviews
by boredboringyawn
May 20th, 2009
09:07:23 AM
So far the movie itself is getting good reviews along with a couple of the actors. one review I read said it was Brad Pitt's worse performance ever.
reviews
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
09:15:23 AM
i think overall it appears Pitt is better in this than most thought he may be, some ppl do have an agenda with him anyway. only neg i have heard about acting was one person say Eli Roth wasnt v good.
Harrys T4 rev
by tonethestone
May 20th, 2009
09:17:16 AM
http://www.aintitcool.com/node /41140
Oh, so NOW you realize there's a FILM festival going on.
by onezeroone
May 20th, 2009
09:21:33 AM
:)
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
09:29:29 AM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt03 61748/board/thread/138453957
I'm looking forward to this...
by HoboCode
May 20th, 2009
09:38:07 AM
but I don't know if I can take two hours of Pitt hamming it up with that fake grating accent.
Looks Good!
by LaserPants
May 20th, 2009
09:40:15 AM
I wish it was coming out sooner, though.
Der Fuhrer iz attending ze premiere??
by kafka07
May 20th, 2009
09:48:19 AM
How about reviews of UP, new Ang Lee movie...
by onezeroone
May 20th, 2009
10:05:51 AM
and loads more showing at Cannes?
Typical AICN post on QT
by Gungan Slayer
May 20th, 2009
10:14:48 AM
I'm tired of this QT bullshit. This movie looks like shit-- but oh wait, it's directed by fucking Quentin Tarantino himself, therefore, this movie will kick ass. Give me a break.
onezeroone
by seppukudkurosawa
May 20th, 2009
10:21:08 AM
I'm right with ya. If Capone gets to have an arthouse column dealing with movies like "Next Day Air," and Scott Green has a column covering every single possible thing happening in the anime world, surely there's room for a couple of Cannes write-ups? Why not ask the same guy who wrote the Inglourious Basterds review what he thought on some of the other movies? Or does "geek" only mean movies to do with blowing shit up and comic books now?
Aldo Raine is homage to Aldo Ray?
by kabong
May 20th, 2009
10:36:49 AM
I watched "The Naked and the Dead" a while ago. Aldo Ray was great as psycho sergeant collecting gold teeth.

War movies can have music and laughs, but the most important feature is the depiction of brutality.

Cobra--Kai
by mr.brownstone
May 20th, 2009
11:37:29 AM
I hear you.
WavingFlagsInSpace
by Jackson Healy
May 20th, 2009
11:55:15 AM
Thanks for the solidarity. Yeah, Pitt probably brought the financing. I agree with the Guardian reviewer -- Pitt's performance looks to be the worst of his career. Almost like an actor in some UCLA kid's student film. I loved the script, at a script level. But QT just doesn't seem to have captured it here, in these clips. Agree with you on GI:Joe. Only reason I'd see this on screen is to see Sienna Miller in black, made of bad girl, on the big screen.
Jackie Brown was his last good movie...
by kjmad25
May 20th, 2009
12:44:08 PM
... and that was 12 years ago. I was hoping this film would change that but it's not looking good. Sin City was good, but I consider that a Rodriguez flick.
Damn sound is bullshit...
by samuraiyao
May 20th, 2009
12:55:39 PM
Can't hear a damn thing...
A word about that Guardian review...
by 5onthe5
May 20th, 2009
02:30:27 PM
Well, about Peter Bradshaw, their critic. I'm an avid Guardian reader, and disagreeing entirely with Peter Bradshaw is half the fun. There is LITERALLY no predicting what he will love and what he will look down on from his lofty, sneering, patronising perch. JUST BECAUSE HE DOESN'T LIKE IT DOESN'T MEAN A THING.
I want to obtain Band of Brothers in Blu Ray!!!!
by bigbaldpapa
May 20th, 2009
03:44:38 PM
Seriously.
imo, KILL BILL was QT's last great film
by Jackson Healy
May 20th, 2009
04:55:08 PM
And with KB, imo, he solidified his place as the best action director in America. I'll reserve judgment on IB until I see it, obviously. I'll never be accused of being an arrogant prick who criticizes before seeing. But Pitt's performance just doesn't do it for me. I hope Tarantino proves my fears unfounded.
I like Pitt's British Accent in this one.
by Sal_Bando
May 20th, 2009
04:56:06 PM
That's GREAT! They need more authenticity like it--
INGLORIOUS ASSTURDS!!
by Sal_Bando
May 20th, 2009
04:58:11 PM
sorry the obvious Beavis level joke was crying to be made--if not by me then by you.
Anyone else love that spaghetti western whistling?
by benlovescoolnews
May 20th, 2009
06:54:09 PM
It brings back so many awesome memories. I thought these clips were cool. Hope they cheered you up Harry.
notorious pussytarts by quenschie tarantina!
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
07:03:55 PM
i couldnt resist
Fuck you naysayers...you know this will be fun
by FleshMachine
May 20th, 2009
07:10:43 PM
like EVERYTHING else he's done.
bad reviews part 2
by muri71
May 20th, 2009
07:44:31 PM
dont say i didnt warned you for month!;) Critics attending the Cannes Film Festival are mostly expressing disappointment over Quentin Tarantino's Inglourious Basterds. An unsigned review on the Hollywood Reporter website says, "The film is by no means terrible -- its running time of two hours and 32 minutes races by -- but those things we think of as being Tarantino-esque, the long stretches of wickedly funny dialogue, the humor in the violence and outsized characters strutting across the screen, are largely missing." The British trade publication Screen Daily says that it "offers considerable challenges to the attention span of mainstream audiences." Sukhdev Sandhu concludes in the London Telegraph: "Cannes normally adores Tarantino (he won the Palme d'Or for Pulp Fiction), but this time? It's not so much inglorious as undistinguished." But several critics take a machine gun to it. Peter Bradshaw in Britain's Guardian newspaper calls it a "catastrophe" and goes on: "It isn't funny; it isn't exciting; it isn't a realistic war movie, yet neither is it an entertaining genre spoof or a clever counterfactual wartime yarn. It isn't emotionally involving or deliciously ironic or a brilliant tissue of trash-pop references. Nothing like that."
The press is finally catching up...
by zacdilone
May 21st, 2009
01:41:50 AM
...with Tarantino's lack of any real talent beyond mimicry.
more reviews
by muri71
May 21st, 2009
04:45:25 AM
Reactions are in from the premiere of Quentin Tarantino's long-brewing flick "Inglourious Basterds" at Cannes, with most critics expressing disappointment in what many hoped would be the director's magnum opus. The film, described by movie writers as a first in the "spaghetti war" genre, stars Brad Pitt as leading Basterd, Lieutenant Aldo Raine, and Christoph Waltz as evil SS officer Landa. The film is set between France and Germany, with languages from those countries, plus English, spoken throughout with subtitles. Most reviews refer to the movie's final line, "This might be my masterpiece," which could easily be interpreted as Tarantino's own self-congratulation; however, according to several early reviews, "Inglourious Basterds" misses this high mark due to its heavy dialogue, expectation of more war sequences, Pitt's caricatured character and disagreement on pace. Positives include rave response to Waltz, Tarantino's mix of history and fiction and the director's typical inclusion of wit and humor in even the most gruesome scenes. Below is a summary of many outlets' reviews from the screening. Check out our photo gallery from the premiere, with shots of Tarantino, Pitt and beyond, for more "Inglorious" coverage. The Hollywood Reporter: "'Inglourious Basterds'
 merely continues the string of disappointments in this year's Competition... for a war movie there is very little action... Tarantino never finds a way to introduce his vivid sense of pulp fiction within the context of a war movie." The Guardian: "[T]he full catastrophe of his new film arrived like some colossal armour-plated turkey from hell... It isn't funny; it isn't exciting; it isn't a realistic war movie, yet neither is it an entertaining genre spoof or a clever counterfactual wartime yarn. It isn't emotionally involving or deliciously ironic or a brilliant tissue of trash-pop references." Sharon Waxman of The Wrap: "[I]t was hard to miss Tarantino's skilled embrace of the elements that make theatrical moviegoing just plain great: scenes filled with dramatic tension, performances with depth and humor, rich and witty scoring choices, multi-lingual dialogue that Tarantino still stamps as his own, and knowing nods at cinematic history and the power of the medium he loves so well... As Brad Pitt says in the very last frame of the film, looking straight into the camera after a gruesome, signature task: 'This might be my masterpiece.'" Indie Wire: "[The flim] feels like a bubblegum sidedish to the heavy dinner plate of [Tarantino's] career... To watch 'Basterds' without considering Tarantino's implementation of enyclopedic movie knowledge makes it into a breezy, insignificant experience... dialogue scenes go on and on, people gets shot, lavish music cues make way for interstitial moments of contemplation, and so on. Get around to it, already." Variety: "[O]nly fully finds its tonal footing about halfway through, after which it's off to the race. By turns surprising, nutty, windy, audacious and a bit caught up in its own cleverness, the picture is a completely distinctive piece of American pop art with a strong Euro flavor that's new for the director... pic features terrific production values across the boards." BBC News: "'Inglourious Basterds' clocks in at nearly three hours, and its director could certainly have trimmed more of its flab. This, and Pitt's character not getting the screen time he deserves, are the main disappointments... [Tarantino] is royalty at this festival - and as long as you can suspend disbelief and offence, he remains the king of trashy cinema." The Telegraph: "The problem is that there's not enough roaring or headhunting... There is far too much yakking, some of it thickly accented and hard to follow, most of it without the rhythmic zing of his best work... It's not so much inglorious as undistinguished." Boston Globe: "It's as talky as the talkiest films in the competition, but Tarantino composes great comedic dialogue that lasts the entire film... Tarantino never cuts totally loose... [Tarantino's] working with a large canvas here, and I think the scope of a war film doesn't entirely jibe with the kind of intimate violence he's so good at staging but never bothers with here... Even at 160 minutes, the film feels rushed." Daily Mail: "Vintage Tarantino to be sure, but a little more action would have been glorious... Not enough scalps."
The sound has been split into stereo.
by Batutta
May 21st, 2009
01:22:55 PM
On the last clip, dialogue is on the left track, sound effects on the right. If you have a mono setup, you may not hear any dialogue.
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