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Clips Featuring FIREFLY’s Insanely Hot Morena Baccarin As Nazi-Lizard Alien Queen From ABC’s Sci-Fi Drama Remake V!!

Brilliant casting by twogunjames	May 19th, 2009 01:47:47 PM
HEY, this looks OK! I was sure it would suck.
Judging from two clips... by runrun	May 19th, 2009 01:52:01 PM
I'll watch the pilot.
Where's Freddy Kreuger? by Teh Suk	May 19th, 2009 01:52:24 PM
I used to love V.
Monica Baccarin can swallow my hamster... by Bones	May 19th, 2009 01:54:15 PM
Someone had to say it first...
Seriously by fain88	May 19th, 2009 01:54:17 PM
This looks not half bad. I'm there. Inara and Juliet's Fabulous Cans! And LIZARDS! What's not to love?
How do we know... by Acappellaman	May 19th, 2009 01:56:12 PM
It'll be lizards this time around? I'm sure there will be many changes to V for the remake. The aliens very likely will look much different.
Morena! by chromedome	May 19th, 2009 01:57:57 PM
that is all
If the whole show is like these two clips... by Bones	May 19th, 2009 01:58:46 PM
Than I am hooked. I miss the fascist jumpsuits though...
Has Potential by RichardAlpert_TimePimp	May 19th, 2009 01:59:19 PM
I've really liked what I have seen and heard about this so far. I also like that ABC said in their press release it will have a set number of seasons/an end date from the very beginning. It's a miracle! A network that actually learns and adapts...amazing. I will definitely be checking this one out in the Fall.
No Michael Ironsides.... by harrys_site_sucks	May 19th, 2009 02:01:42 PM
drag
Second clip better than the first by Pohpat	May 19th, 2009 02:02:12 PM
The special effects of the giant screens/ships over major cities/landmarks looked pretty bad. Interesting concept (must catch the original before this) but all I could think whilst watching that first video was that Elizabeth Mitchell should get back to Lost. Despite that I'll end up watching this no doubt, I'm a sucker for alien invasion stories. (Anyone remember Invasion a couple years back? That was pretty well done, if drawn out a little too long).
In the original V Script, there were no Lizards... by Bones	May 19th, 2009 02:05:08 PM
It was just another humanoid race that came and controlled us. NBC suggested that Kenneth Johnson add the Lizard element to make it more "Sci-Fi". It is going to be very interesting to see how this plays out. It seems that rather than NAZIs per say, the Visitors are now NeoCons. And considering that so much of what made V powerful included rounding up detainees and fundamentally changing how the world ran--and the rights that humans were allowed to have--This may very well be the new Battlestar Galactica when it comes to topical science fiction. So long as God and his Angels doesn't show up at the eleventh hour, I am in like Flynn.
don't ..not doesn't by Bones	May 19th, 2009 02:05:47 PM
damn my quick reposting...
hmmmmm by Wrecks	May 19th, 2009 02:06:31 PM
interesting.
I was impressed with V by MonkeyManReturns	May 19th, 2009 02:07:10 PM
It looks like it could be a good show...and lets face it - they have a great template in the original...so here's hoping. And I had no problems with the special effects...there is a recession on, and budgets are not unlimited, so we can allow for some leverage there...the great thing about stories are, there are no budget restrictions on what the mind can tell the pen to do...lets hope the writers are given the space to perform... Fast forward - hmmmmm....
I wanna elevate by britney spears rusted clit ring	May 19th, 2009 02:08:24 PM
Her skirt.
So, the changes? by badboymason	May 19th, 2009 02:08:29 PM
The Visitors are no longer all marching around in military uniforms? Is this a shift from the Nazi parallels, or will they simple be more subtle and also more heavily reflect more modern fears about government-influenced media which the 2nd clip indicates...? I think one of the improvements it could make over the original if done right is to have more characters who are shades-of-grey rather than either falling in line or joining the resistance... the original tried to do this, but modern TV is much more comfortable with "good" characters doing questionable things and redemption of villains so will be interesting to see where it goes.
@Bones by badboymason	May 19th, 2009 02:10:32 PM
IIRC, the original V concept, Wikipedia seems to agree: "In a commentary track on the DVD release of the mini-series, Johnson reveals that V was originally intended as a straightforward political thriller, charting the rise of a fascist movement in the United States."
meant to say by badboymason	May 19th, 2009 02:12:20 PM
original V concept had NO aliens...
Seth McFarlane by damned-dirty-ape	May 19th, 2009 02:14:57 PM
Is it me or is that Seth McFarlane in the flash forward clip?
Next season of 24 should be like V by lockesbrokenleg	May 19th, 2009 02:18:06 PM
Jack discovers an alien group plans to take over L.A.
It seems impossible... by Hugh G Rekshun	May 19th, 2009 02:19:15 PM
...but they managed to make Morena Baccarin look ugly. And I think I fell alseep during the clip from FF.
Wait, so new Diana is a member of the Bush Administration? by SpyGuy	May 19th, 2009 02:19:35 PM
"You will have to be more than fair" sounds right out of the Karl Rove playbook.
Maybe the 'V' aliens... by Hugh G Rekshun	May 19th, 2009 02:20:14 PM
...are here to save us from Obama and his gang of tax cheats.
Perhaps they learned how to obfuscate... by Hugh G Rekshun	May 19th, 2009 02:21:28 PM
...from Pelosi and Co.
This looks good by cylon_conspiracy	May 19th, 2009 02:21:35 PM
I was a kid when the first V came out, I remember bits and pieces, especially the freaky lizard baby. That gave me nightmares. This looks like a high quality show, and I understand its only 13 episodes so that's probably enough to tell the story. Most good shows get cancelled anyway so we can see an entire story from beginning to end.
And what's up with Baccarin's super-short hairstyle? by SpyGuy	May 19th, 2009 02:21:41 PM
Not feeling it. Grow it out and reshoot her scenes pronto.
Brannon Braga= Bag O Shite by damned-dirty-ape	May 19th, 2009 02:22:15 PM
Honestly, the man couldn't write about stink on a turd. Plus i wouldn't really call David Goyer a visionary. More of a sightseer
I remember loving... by codymr	May 19th, 2009 02:22:43 PM
V back when I was a kid... It had cool spaceships, sexy alien femme fatales and lots of action. But later I found Arthur C Clarke's book, Childhood's End, which shared a similar story in many respects. I get the impression Johnson took Clarke's story, tweaked the plot and motivations of the of the Visitors just enough so there would not be a copyright lawsuit and took out elements that would have been too expensive to film back in 1984. A shame that V was not as original of idea when I first viewed it back in the day with 8 year old eyes. But, this remake looks better than I expected. I'll tune in to see what they did with the material.
It's not V... by damned-dirty-ape	May 19th, 2009 02:27:26 PM

Is that Joseph Fienne? by Mr Walter	May 19th, 2009 02:27:48 PM
Didn't know he was in it. It looked interesting. I'll give it a watch.
To Serve Man by darebear	May 19th, 2009 02:27:52 PM
They might as well start the show explaining that the aliens want to eat us. Just put it in the opening shot. No sense in holding that back for the two people who don't know it's coming.
it's not V... by damned-dirty-ape	May 19th, 2009 02:29:13 PM
Unless it has the always hard bastard Ironside in there or that Lizard Baby that looked like my Wifes Mother
Can't believe no one has tried to cast Monica as WW! by HollywoodHellraiser	May 19th, 2009 02:36:12 PM
She would easily be on my list. Fuck Megan Fox!
HH...Monica as Wonder Woman. by StatelyWayneManor	May 19th, 2009 02:38:28 PM
She is way too tiny. Maybe a midgit Amazon...
Wonder Woman is not thin. by Bones	May 19th, 2009 02:41:21 PM
She needs to be a tall, curvy woman who can do her own stunts. And mad props if she actually looks like she is Mediteranian...
I cannot spell. It is a curse by Bones	May 19th, 2009 02:43:15 PM

Thats nothing...I spelled "midget" wrong. by StatelyWayneManor	May 19th, 2009 02:45:55 PM
I'll have to either type slower or stop drinking. Guess I'll type slower.
I want Visitors in red jumpsuits goddammit! by Raymar	May 19th, 2009 02:48:46 PM
And get back to writing "The Cleveland Show", MacFarlene.
Looks good by David Cloverfield	May 19th, 2009 02:49:11 PM
Remember Earth: Final Conflict? That started out good, and it was kinda like this. "Seemingly benevolent aliens arrive, change the world, but in truth they have sinister motives" But of course by the end of the first season it was unwatchable.
Morena looks amazing. And... by DarqueGuy	May 19th, 2009 02:53:24 PM
Yeah, I think that might be Seth McFarlane in the "Threshold" clip. I watched that scene again with eyes closed to see if I could hear Brian, whom I think is the character closest to McFarlane's actual voice, and it sounded fairly close.
Remember, Seth MacFarlane is an alien by SpyGuy	May 19th, 2009 03:05:15 PM
So does that make FLASH FORWARD one big commercial for Hulu?
Noooo... Juliette needs to stay in Lost. by estacado1	May 19th, 2009 03:05:59 PM
As she leaving the show to do this? I hope not. The island is not finished yet with her. Lost is way better for her career than V. She needs to stay. She has to stay. She's like Kate with bigger boobs. I want my 2 versions of Kate to remain on the show. Please stay.
estacado1...have you watched Lost recently? by StatelyWayneManor	May 19th, 2009 03:10:36 PM
I have some bad news for you, sunshine...
Looks like an Outer Limits episode by DrPain	May 19th, 2009 03:10:41 PM
I miss that show.
"To Serve Man"...whoops, wrong show. by StatelyWayneManor	May 19th, 2009 03:14:06 PM
I just want to coin "Eat the Hamster" first. Thanks.
StatelyWayneManor ... I saw it by estacado1	May 19th, 2009 03:14:35 PM
If Juliette dies, then the rest of them die too. It's an H-bomb for god sakes. Just because it's in a well, it doesn't mean it's effect is limited to inside the well.
She is perfect by aversiontherapy2	May 19th, 2009 03:20:54 PM
Alluring and alien at the same time, hot too. Flash Forward sounded hopeful but the dialogue is dire... "it felt like a future memory." Felt like?! Give me a break.
can't wait to see Alan Tudyk in V by oisin5199	May 19th, 2009 03:26:34 PM
this actually looks pretty cool. Morena is just the right level of creepy. And, like Battlestar, if done well, it can be politically relevant without a clear sense of X represents Y. They can be neo-cons, they can be libs - insert whatever 'other' you wish. And even if we know they have a secret agenda, it's how that plays out that will be important. I hope it's not a clear case of black and white. Flash Forward also looks ok, and I actually enjoyed Threshold - it just didn't get a chance to develop (although that year, Invasion was more subtle and interesting).
Just read Flashforward by David Cloverfield	May 19th, 2009 03:27:31 PM
That scene is terrible. They put together the most exciting mystery of the book by saying "it felt like the future". How stupid can a script be?
Humanoid by dahveed1972	May 19th, 2009 03:27:55 PM
If the show wants to go for some semblance of realism, they should have the aliens admit right off the bat that, of course, they dont really look EXACTLY like human beings and that theyre just assuming a pleasing form to keep from freaking us out. The whole unmasking the alien thing has been done to death anyway so why even go there?
Im scared. by diseptikon	May 19th, 2009 03:28:29 PM
In V you knew who the visitors were clearly because of their alien voice and standard red jumpsuit. I fear this will tread into Battlestar territory with visitors hiding among us and I really dont have the patience to do this all over again. I hope they keep things straight forward and dont play the stupid early mid season reveal that character x was an alien this whole time. Us vs them. Keep it simple.
not insanely hot by TheExterminator	May 19th, 2009 03:36:14 PM
by any stretch
It's definitely got a different tone... by The Bunglermoose	May 19th, 2009 03:40:43 PM
...than the original, and some of the dialogue in the second clip was a little wooden. How many times did she say negative light? But I'm intrigued -- I'll give it a chance.
Call me when Braga dies. I want to piss on his grave. by V'Shael	May 19th, 2009 03:49:48 PM
And make sure I have a cast iron alibi for his murder.
V'Shael: You'll have to stand in line at Braga's grave. by SpyGuy	May 19th, 2009 03:51:46 PM
A shitload of STAR TREK fans are already ahead of you. And I'm one of them.
mmmmm alien lizards look yummy! by johnnyangel	May 19th, 2009 03:52:52 PM
the other other other white meat.
Seth McFarlane... you sell out. by V'Shael	May 19th, 2009 03:55:41 PM
Are you so desperate to be an actor that you'll accept any old role? Or did Brannon tempt you with a musical number?
SpyGuy. I don't mind standing in line. by V'Shael	May 19th, 2009 03:58:53 PM
I just hope I get there before the massive tide of urine washes his remains completely away down to the sewer where he should spend the rest of eternity.
Looks like Frost/Alien to me. by TylerDurden3395	May 19th, 2009 04:00:20 PM

"We can't have anything that portrays us in a negative light..." by Mistahtibbs	May 19th, 2009 04:03:34 PM
Soooo, President Obama is an alien? Oh come ON. Somebody had to say it. Might as well be a Canuck. MT
Except the reporter would say... by Mistahtibbs	May 19th, 2009 04:05:12 PM
"Yes, sir." "Whatever you say, Mr. President." MT
Lol V'Shael and SpyGuy by David Cloverfield	May 19th, 2009 04:05:44 PM
Exchanging fantasies of pissing a TV writers grave. So healthy. Let's drown the guy in his children's blood.
BTW. DEFINITELY Seth McFarlane in the final clip... by Mistahtibbs	May 19th, 2009 04:06:34 PM

Oh, and the "V" series? by Mistahtibbs	May 19th, 2009 04:09:25 PM
Wasn't sure about it but those clips have me interested and if they are going to have an arc with an ending then I'll give it the chance to pull me in this fall. But Lost and Fringe are still my first loves. heh. MT
Marc Singer? by Primal Vampyre	May 19th, 2009 04:27:10 PM
Was that Marc Singer dressed as a priest?
Are the Visitors still reptilian in this reboot? by Prof. Pop-Cult	May 19th, 2009 04:42:17 PM
I wonder if their alien-ness will be different in this new version.
I gotta say... by Erik J. Pflueger	May 19th, 2009 04:43:17 PM
These two clips have me believing that they have captured the SPIRIT of the original, even if it isn't a note-for-note copy. These comparisons to Battlestar may or may not be premature, but I can certainly understand where they're coming from.
She and He having a little tiff. by kabong	May 19th, 2009 04:43:47 PM
Oooooh, I wonder if they'll get together. Every show is the same. Just do your jobs: invade/resist.
Looks really fucking good. by Wolverines_Leaky_Workprint	May 19th, 2009 04:50:34 PM

Fuck. I can't dismiss 'V' as I'd hoped. by The_Man_Behind_The_Curtain	May 19th, 2009 05:13:12 PM
Well done. You've actually managed to get my interest. You look good. If you let me down, I shall unleash my wrath upon you.
Brannon Braga... by -guyinthebackrow	May 19th, 2009 05:45:03 PM
Say what you will, but if you're a STAR TREK fan you gotta give him props for writing the series finale of THE NEXT GENERATION. That was some good writing.
It's the hooker chick from Firefly by cylon_conspiracy	May 19th, 2009 05:47:44 PM
That was such a great show.
V by FilmGuy125	May 19th, 2009 05:50:34 PM
Starring Elizabeth Mitchell's cans!!
Best of both worlds by optimus122	May 19th, 2009 06:03:55 PM
was classic...they should have quit right after DS9. Thank God ST is now in capable hands.
WHAT??? NO RED AND BLACK LEATHER??? by J-Dizzle	May 19th, 2009 06:12:13 PM
Boooooo I say! Booooooooo!
Not Marc Singer by aversiontherapy2	May 19th, 2009 06:19:35 PM
Joel Gretsch.
Damn! Elizabeth Mitchell IS leaving Lost. by estacado1	May 19th, 2009 06:29:14 PM
http://imgur.com/n2794.jpg Ah. What a sad day. Got the whole off-season to come to terms with that. They better make it one hell of a final season.
This looks pretty damn good by SmokingRobot	May 19th, 2009 06:36:09 PM
In a b-movie sort of way. Think 'The Lost Room' or 'The Triangle'. I love that kind of stuff. It's like eating macaroni and cheese for dinner.
ENOUGH! by ZodNotGod	May 19th, 2009 06:40:59 PM
What is the fucking point of remaking everything? I thought this was going to be a continuation? Like twenty years of living with the aliens? Seriously, if anyone can't get into the original, they are fucking retarded and need to get an education.
V >>> Flashfoward by Kobaal	May 19th, 2009 06:43:19 PM
Baccarin plus Cans plus Party of Five alumnus = I'm there. Flashfoward looks shit by the way.
Nice! by Pogue__Mahone	May 19th, 2009 06:44:13 PM
I was a HUGE fan of V when I was in my mid teens... my 16th birthday cake was a big V with red icing! I had all the DC comics (Still do) and all the novels... this looks like they've stayed true to the spirit of the original and I'm looking forward to seeing where they are going to take it. And the fact that they have a set arc and they are going to be done makes me VERY happy. How many shows and good concepts are run into the ground just because they start out insanelly popular and get dragged on and watered down. Have a story. Tell that story. Be done. One season? Two? That's why television - a lot of it anyway - in the UK is infinately superior to the North American drivel. How many bad fucking days can Jack Bauer Have?!?!?!
Zzzzzzzz by ZodNotGod	May 19th, 2009 06:45:24 PM
A better idea would be to have a charismatic President swept into office by the idiot, gulible masses who don't read, don't go to school, make lousy choices and only watch "American Idol" and allow him to make us into a Socialist state- wait- that's already happening.
I've seen this already by TheEnemy8	May 19th, 2009 06:51:23 PM
it starts off strong but ultimately the humans are too stupid to understand why anything is happening.
That was....underwhelming by Yeti	May 19th, 2009 07:10:43 PM
No weird voices. No uniforms. And since when do alien she devils wear corporate skank outfits? Meh.
Looks CHEAP!!! by lockesbrokenleg	May 19th, 2009 07:23:09 PM
A face instead of a huge spaceship? WTF? That's not V.
when? by ulcer	May 19th, 2009 07:30:50 PM
when the hell this thing going to air?
I met Ms. Baccarin... by DarthCorleone	May 19th, 2009 07:35:48 PM
She is beautiful and very nice.
ZodNotGod by frozen01	May 19th, 2009 07:39:32 PM
Come back when you've looked up what the word "Socialist" actually means, please. Hint: It doesn't mean a 3% tax increase for the bracket that's been enjoying rates their predecessors (even those who lived under conservative presidents) would have killed for. For the record, I don't think that "don't go to school" was your best weapon seeing as which college graduates overwhelmingly vote Democrat. And while I can't stand "American Idol", at least it's more entertaining and wholesome than "Desperate Housewives", a red-state favorite.
morenna cut her hair? by Bouncy X	May 19th, 2009 07:42:44 PM
my word!!! she had awesome hair too. anyway i'll give this a go. wonder if this turns into a hit, will they try and get actors from the original to make appearances?
Insanely Hot? No. by snowpuff	May 19th, 2009 07:45:05 PM
Very good looking. But insanely hot? No.
Morena is hot but she is no Jane Badler. by TylerDurden3395	May 19th, 2009 07:45:51 PM
I got my first boner from looking at her on the cover of Starlog.
No journalist would go ahead with that interview by snowpuff	May 19th, 2009 07:54:12 PM
...when there are bunch of people in the studio around listening to the subject mandate the terms. It would be all over the blogs the next day. I'm not saying she couldn't make a deal behind closed doors, but that interview would be over in real life.
Man I nearly busted a gut watching Reaper by chrth	May 19th, 2009 07:54:57 PM
"Don't you only wear one suit?"
Nice to see Tory from BSG again by lockesbrokenleg	May 19th, 2009 08:31:16 PM
That was her in the second clip, right?
Frozen01 re: ZodNotGod by The Bicycle Sharer	May 19th, 2009 08:53:25 PM
1. Charismatic president swept into office? Check. See Barack Obama (aka Commander-in-Chimp). 2. Masses who don't read? Check. U.S. illiteracy = tied at 17th in the world with about 24 other countries. Fourteen percent of U.S. adults can't read. 3. Masses who don't go to school? Check. About 1/3 of all U.S. high school students don't graduate. 4. Masses who make lousy choices? Check. See abortion and foreclosure rates plus nos. 2 & 3. 5. Masses who only watch "American Idol?" Check. See Nielsen ratings. American Idol is top TWO shows. 6. Allow him (the Commander-in-Chimp) to make us into a Socialist state? Check. See definition of socialism (which, by the way, has NOTHING to do with onerous tax rates). From dictionary.com, socialism, a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. See Barack Obama and the banking industry, the auto industry, the health care industry, and the energy providers. To your point, though, one of the hallmarks of socialism is the redistribution of the wealth of high earners through progressive taxes, both of which (redistribution and higher taxes), the Commander-in-Chimp is on the record as favoring.
I'll be there for the grave pissing ceremony too! by Maniaq	May 19th, 2009 08:57:08 PM
I can see the Tweets now... and call me crazy, but I got a very... Earth: Final Conflict vibe from those clips - anyone else?
How come you can't post in Hercvault TBs? by American Mythos	May 19th, 2009 09:05:33 PM
Are those just to make money from Amazon adverts? Don't get me wrong, I like 'em (I've probably spent $3,000 on Amazon products in the past year). Just curious.
Zod! What a coincidence! by Pompoulus	May 19th, 2009 09:08:40 PM
The idiot gullible majority elected the last president too! And every president ever! Wow that is one hell of a coincidence.
lockesbrokenleg... by Erik J. Pflueger	May 19th, 2009 09:09:36 PM
I do agree wih that: yes, the character-drama angle seems covered, but at some point the Visitors are gonna have to whip out some spaceships, and in the single imnage I saw from the first clip, I really couldn't make out what the mothership was supposed to look like. This means either that it's just an undewhelming design that's not as striking as the original motherships, or that the angle was so off that it looked bad (which happened to the first picture of the new Enterprise, too, as I recall). They're dong great with the spirit of the piece, but they need to cover the fighters, freighters, etc. that are gonna do the job of taking water and people-food.
yes - I see Earth:Final Conflict was ALREADY mentioned! by Maniaq	May 19th, 2009 09:11:19 PM
just wait until Keith David makes that reporter put on the sunglasses! yeah one has nothing to do with the other, but hey SOMEBODY had to mention John Carpenters masterpiece - which will likely make this series look like Rosie O'Donnell's hairy armpit
Maniaq... by Erik J. Pflueger	May 19th, 2009 09:13:30 PM
I didn't need that image. Really. :)
You little Neocon Youth shits are SO FUCKING FUNNY. by Teh Suk	May 19th, 2009 09:14:03 PM
Crawl back up Cheney's Dick and STFU.
the Frozen01 re: ZodNotGod by aabiohazard1972	May 19th, 2009 09:16:08 PM
that made me smile and warm inside, now here come the "more tolerant" lib/socialists/commies haters give it up guys, you won't change our minds, we won't change yours, can't we just discus movies here and not politics? that just makes me want to revolt and open fire to get it over with, and I would much rather escape reality for a bit instead, its why I like Movies lets stay on that shall we
They should do that on other shows. by gotilk	May 19th, 2009 09:17:19 PM
"So Sheldon, you're saying you're working on your very own BIG BANG THEORY?" or "Bad boy, you stop breaking NOW... Breaking.. BAD!" or "My GOD, this science is seriously FRINGE."
Teh Suk by gotilk	May 19th, 2009 09:19:36 PM
Not enough room in Cheney's dick. Stuffed with Limbaugh and Bill-O. That does not sound like an appetizing sausage filling.
Oh, frozen01, on your educational assertions by The Bicycle Sharer	May 19th, 2009 09:20:58 PM
Re: Obama voters, according to cnn (http://tinyurl.com/psshpt), Obama scored his widest margin of victory (63% to 35%) among those with NO HIGH SCHOOL. He also did well amongst those with post-graduate degrees (58% to 40%), but among college graduates (who, according to you, voted "overwhelmingly for Obama"), the Commander-in-Chimp won by the runaway margin of 50% to 48%, which is apparently "overwhelming" where you come from?!?!?! Even if one lumps college grad AND post-grad, the Messiah's (who, by the way, still has us in Iraq and Afghanistan, who continues warrantless wiretaps, won't release photos, and hasn't closed Gitmo) margin of victory is 53% to 47%, hardly an "overwhelming" victory and certainly nothing like his lead among the intelligentsia of "No High School." In conclusion, perhaps it's you who should come back when you've done some more reading and research. Idiot.
That was too easy. by gotilk	May 19th, 2009 09:22:22 PM
Need to come up with something witty related to how fat the neocons here must be and how they couldn't fit up Cheney's dick. Back later.
LOL, aabioharzard1972 by The Bicycle Sharer	May 19th, 2009 09:25:28 PM
Despite my leaping into the fray, well said. Back to the V. Which, btw, I wouldn't mind exploring Morena's "v," if you know what I mean. Or Elizabeth Mitchell's. Mmmm-mmmmm. Lizard poon.
short hair by Dradis Contact	May 19th, 2009 09:25:33 PM
Is there a reason for it that hearkens the old series? I'm not a fan (of the hairdo.)
wtf is all this shit about Obama?? by Maniaq	May 19th, 2009 09:29:05 PM
you guys watching the same video as the rest of us?? does she LOOK LIKE Obama to you or something?? seriously guys build a fucking bridge AND GET OVER IT
Fuck by The Bicycle Sharer	May 19th, 2009 09:29:08 PM
Totally need to go play "Reptile" by The Church while spanking one out to Morena in this vid. "Go now, you've been set free. Another month or so you'll be poisoning me, With your lovely smile." Ker-splat! Ahhhhh....
Did you seriously just cite a CNN exit poll by gotilk	May 19th, 2009 09:30:09 PM
to prove a point? Are you one of the statistics? Besides, I've met far too many completely functional idiots with degrees to lend your concept credence even IF it were based on anything solid. I'm talking absolutely brain-dead dumb here, but fully functional and productive. Which is fine. But most of the time they bring up their degrees when they are discovered to be uninformed. I don't have any USA Today charts to point to, but I get the feeling those people turned out in droves to vote for their patron saint, GWB.
Dradis Contact... by Erik J. Pflueger	May 19th, 2009 09:31:43 PM
Actually, no, there can't be a reason like that; in the original, the hair was all presumed to be wigs that came with the fake human-skin. The Visitors themselves were hairless. The short hair was presumably an aesthetic choice either by the director/producer/bigwig or by the actress herself
And these are the ad geniuses that came up by gotilk	May 19th, 2009 09:34:38 PM
with the lovely concepts of "activist judges" and professors with intelligence being considered "elitist" because they didn't bend over in class and take the daily dose of reality-fucking Limbaugh talking points. Great way to move the country forward, folks. Call some of your best and brightest "elitists". Sorry about your C in philosophy. Must have hurt.
And just to stay on topic. by gotilk	May 19th, 2009 09:35:10 PM
I think her hair is lovely.
I'm glad SOMEONE wants to stay on topic by Erik J. Pflueger	May 19th, 2009 09:37:48 PM
Because I'm sick and damed tired of politics infusing every thread that I read here. Granted, V is a political story, at least in part, but I'm gagging on the left vs. right debate.
Gotlik (my dick) by The Bicycle Sharer	May 19th, 2009 09:38:57 PM
If YOU'VE got some better stats, please feel free to lay 'em out. Until then stfu! You don't even make fucking sense. You've met "too many completely functional idiots with degrees" is exactly my point. 50% to 58% of them voted for the Commander-in-Chimp. Maybe you met the 40% to 48% who voted for Bush. Who knows? My point is that no matter how they voted NEITHER FUCKING STATISTIC IS AN "OVERWHELMING" COLLEGE GRADUATE VOTE AS FUCKNUTS STATED, YOU GODDAMNED FUCKING MORON! GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS AND READ! I WASN'T THE FUCKING ONE STATING THAT COLLEGE GRADS VOTE "OVERWHELMINGLY" X OR Y, YOU COCKSUCKING IMBECILE. IT--WAS--THE--OTHER--FUCKING-- GUY, YOU TURD-EATING TOOL!
And you wanna see activism and community by gotilk	May 19th, 2009 09:39:45 PM
organizing? How about we all pitch in and buy California homosexuals subscriptions to Guns and Ammo. Sleep well.
.. little too close to home, huh? by gotilk	May 19th, 2009 09:40:40 PM
DECAF! But not from Starbucks, they're against unions.
I'm gonna miss the vocoder-voices by Maniaq	May 19th, 2009 09:42:03 PM
the sunglasses... not so much
Really I think she could pull off any look. by gotilk	May 19th, 2009 09:43:54 PM
But she's also a pretty damned good actress. I just wish Flash Forward looked as interesting as V. I would have assumed the opposite.
I'm a Journalist by ZooTrain	May 19th, 2009 09:49:32 PM
"It's my job to ask questions even if it makes the other person uncomfortable." God, I love science fiction.
THE LIZARDS LOOK LIKE HUMANS NOW! by Maniaq	May 19th, 2009 09:50:20 PM
and the priest will turn out to be one of the final five you heard it here first!
short hair by SylarTheCylon	May 19th, 2009 09:59:25 PM
is a good idea, makes her look androgynous. Maybe they are trying to appear like angels?
Who the hell claps after an alien ship appears in the sky?! by adiehardfanwithalethalweapon	May 19th, 2009 09:59:59 PM
I laughed my ass of at that. Come the hell on!
Actually... by Erik J. Pflueger	May 19th, 2009 10:03:36 PM
I'm not surprised they applauded the "we come in peace" message. People love to clap and go "WOO!" any chance they get. And for some reason, it rings true to this material, even though no one ever applauded the message in the original V.
Juliet should take a hydrogen bomb to that ship by zooch	May 19th, 2009 10:03:58 PM

THE CYLONS HAVE A PLAN!!! by LaserPants	May 19th, 2009 10:05:07 PM
I meant LIZARD PEOPLE!!!
I Really Loved The V Miniseries When I Was A Kid by LaserPants	May 19th, 2009 10:06:59 PM
Didn't it start out with two miniseries? I remember being really into it at first and then it sorta running outta steam when it became a regular series. This redux looks like it could be decent. I'll give it a looksee. Oh, and yes, the Best Little Space Hooker in the Galaxy is hot, no, not just that, she's Cuteiful.
It looked like the whole world was watching by ThrowMeTheIdol	May 19th, 2009 10:10:48 PM
A L'Oreal commercial in the sky. I'm glad to see Elizabeth Mitchell get work but damn I want Juliet back.
ThrowMeTheIdol by gotilk	May 19th, 2009 10:13:07 PM
I had to go back and watch again and you're right. I thought at the end she was going to say "easy..breezy.. beautiful". lol
No one clapped in the original by lockesbrokenleg	May 19th, 2009 10:53:56 PM
Most of them were scared shitless.
Laser Pants - Yes it did start as two minis by MrD	May 19th, 2009 11:02:38 PM
The first was awesome - a dark allegory of Nazi germany, with scientists insteand of Jews. The tone and allegory were lightenedfor the second mini. The TV series just sucked.
PLEASE no lizards. by MrD	May 19th, 2009 11:03:03 PM
You can do better this time.
Press Politics... Grow up and get some perspective by MrD	May 19th, 2009 11:07:34 PM
And get off your elephants and donkeys. Bush didn't invent playing the media, nor did Obama. Clinton was a master at it (negotiating a NYT interview in which they offered to ask the questions he wanted asked), as was Reagan. Being relevant means more than just bashing the current or former administration.
The first vid looks like a pharmaceutical ad. by Flim Springfield	May 19th, 2009 11:14:28 PM

The second vid should be called "The V Word". by Flim Springfield	May 19th, 2009 11:16:43 PM

Yeah, Bush's manipulation of the media by gotilk	May 19th, 2009 11:42:05 PM
.. worked out real well. Now the party is "re-working" and "re-branding". So yeah, great job. Criticism isn't bashing. It's what everyone does. And no offense, but there's always the requisite "hey guys.. it goes both ways..." guy. And to a certain extent, that's true. People disagree.. and sometimes people lose their cool. But "growing up" is very, very far removed from having a point of view and expressing it. I would say it's more "grown up" to be able to tolerate it without feeling like you want to throw your keyboard at the monitor. And it's also not very mature to make a lot of assumptions about people and their political affiliations without them being stated.
She is the second cuming of Servalan from Blakes 7 by toadkillerdog	May 19th, 2009 11:47:50 PM
That is a good thing!
what happened at the end of the original V? by Titus05	May 20th, 2009 12:01:46 AM
did the humans destroy all the alins and the alien motherships all fled back to space?...how did they defeat them, anyone recall?
~Blah~! Not impressed... by ToMonicker	May 20th, 2009 12:04:33 AM
Were's Diana? ;-) Yeah, there better be something more than Lizard People with the Human Cookbook for OmicronPersI8!
I sneaked a peek at this in LA by TheEnemy8	May 20th, 2009 12:21:37 AM
apparently everything goes really well throughout the first episode, however, i never caught the end so who knows. the ship design doesn't look bad though the effects are of Stargate: SG1 standards, from like 4 years ago though. you can tell they spent time on some shots and not on others. and the first 10 minutes has some doozies in there including a very cool SPOILER jet crash. the humans get on the spaceships only after two weeks of...well, nothing. we don't see cause it says 2 weeks later then BOOM we are on the ship. so...take that as you will
gotilk what the crap is the matter with you? by Kai_Mah'gra	May 20th, 2009 12:25:49 AM
You seem like a somewhat intelligent person so its somewhat puzzling, because almost everyone with half a brain who read 'The Bicycle Sharer's moronic drivel could tell that he is nothing but a retarded imbecile with nothing productive to contribute to human evolution. Soooo why the hell would you waste time (and valuable brain power) trying to engage him in a debate? The rest of us are not ignoring him because we can't argue with him, we're ignoring him because to do otherwise would be about as productive and useful as as trying to teach a chimp how to program a computer. Wait; actually you would stand a better chance with the chimp than making any sense to that dolt. The point is, stop sullying yourself communicating with that Neanderthal, and if you make like the rest of us and ignore him, or it, (it's only after attention, after all) it'll probably crawl back to whatever hole it oozed out of at Drudge, or Fox News or Cheney's taint.
please stop with the political bullshit by Kobaal	May 20th, 2009 12:51:43 AM
no one cares. what comes around goes around. there will be another republican president. after that their will be another democrat. each one will make lots of bullshit promises to his/her base and then get mugged by reality once in office. ad nauseum, etc etc etc... really looking forward to V. Scott Wolf is the new Matthew Fox! You heard it here first.
Kai_Mah'gra by gotilk	May 20th, 2009 01:12:57 AM
Good point. True. I was waking up and just getting the juices flowing, so to speak. (the juices being coffee) I occasionally blow off steam in the direction of people who make no sense. I hope that explains what's "wrong" with me. Most of us here will fall into the cliches of talkback/forum behavior. I know people attribute tone and voice to words read here. And it's not always accurate.
Kobaal by gotilk	May 20th, 2009 01:14:03 AM
How was what you just wrote not political bullshit? I actually want to know.
I love the slow progression into a political tirade by billypilgrimisunstuck	May 20th, 2009 01:22:58 AM
Don't feed the neocons! I have found that the most intelligent people don't need to spur out their polemic sentiments to feel intellectually superior to everyone. If you are convicted in what you know, what you have seen and have conducted systematic, analytical and thorough research, then that should be enough. If someone attacks your views with an equally rational view, then agree to disagree (which, unfortunately, isn't the case here). As for V, looks good. I'm actually excited about it now. Although I will miss Elizabeth Mitchell on Lost =(. At least I get to see her somewhere. And my hopes for Flash Forward has officially been squashed. I have always loved the concept of hopping over to the other side and remembering what you saw. This kind of ruins it. The music is horrible, the pacing, the dialogue. Ugh. I thought this would have potential.
To the heroism of the Resistance Fighters. by diseptikon	May 20th, 2009 02:03:55 AM
--Past, Present, and Future-- Its interesting that the Visitors are coming right out about the water instead of saying they need chemicals. Don't they know California is in a drought?
re: what happened at the end of the original V? by snowpuff	May 20th, 2009 02:21:39 AM
Julie sends a signal into space to the lizard people's enemies. (V: The Final Battle was not done by Kenneth Johnson. If you want to count that they kill the lizards with the "red dust.")
gotlik by Kobaal	May 20th, 2009 02:24:41 AM
It was merely an observation. Talking about a subject doesn't render that statement part of the subject. But hey, this is a talkback, knock yourself out.
re: How come you can't post in Hercvault TBs? by snowpuff	May 20th, 2009 02:25:41 AM
Because someone might say "so and so DVD sucks."
Was That Seth McFarlane In The Third Clip? by Media Messiah	May 20th, 2009 02:26:15 AM
I think that was him alright?
Kobaal by gotilk	May 20th, 2009 03:08:44 AM
Hey, apathy and pessimism has been a huge part of the political landscape for a very, very long time. I think that's a political point of view. But if you think it's not, that's fine too.
Media Messiah by gotilk	May 20th, 2009 03:11:22 AM
Yes, definitely him. It's great to see him in a dramatic role. The only problem is, he's Brian. His natural voice is Brian. It's hard to hear that voice and not see the dog in your head.
I love you guys. by gotilk	May 20th, 2009 03:12:16 AM
But the dyslexia is rampant.
I'd let Morena invade my face with her ass, by Dingbatty	May 20th, 2009 03:57:20 AM
but there is no way humans would fall for that creepy, serene, hypnotist-like tone from giant, looming spacecraft.
Seth McFarlane does not exist in this dojo... by BurnHollywood	May 20th, 2009 04:26:18 AM
You sit there and pretend to laugh at and enjoy FUTURAMA, or just get the hell out of here.
V remake looks cheap as fuck. by alucardvsdracula	May 20th, 2009 04:37:48 AM
I prefered the original space nazi look to this white shiney shit. Awful, fucking awful looking load of donkey puke.
Seth Macfarlane by spartacus728	May 20th, 2009 04:58:05 AM
Yeah...I think that's definitely him. It is weird seeing him be dramatic...oh well, the show probably won't last anyway. Pretty poor writing in that clip alone.
Insanely hot by The McPoyle Clan	May 20th, 2009 05:47:55 AM
has my vote. The eyebrow/hair ratio needs to be adjusted, though. To me, more attractive than the generic, plastic-y definition of beauty embodied by Megan Fox and the like.
Yes, Morena Baccarin is Wonder-Woman. by Fareal	May 20th, 2009 06:11:21 AM
She is perfect for the part.
So she takes the Obama approach to press conferences... by The Nihilist	May 20th, 2009 06:26:57 AM
...imagine that.
McFarlane probably laughed at the use of the show's title. by Flim Springfield	May 20th, 2009 06:35:05 AM

WILL SHE MAKE SKY PORN? by turketron_2	May 20th, 2009 07:27:37 AM
Our alien overlords fly their huge HDTV's over us and show us the finest of porn. I welcome them with an open fly and a handful of KY!
they left out the part where she announces... by Maniaq	May 20th, 2009 07:30:35 AM
they need to make way for a hyperspace bypass - and would you like to hear some of her poetry? she had the short hair on an episode of Numbers (not that I watch that show) - I can't say it's a look I'm particularly enamoured with - it makes her look kinda like a young boy and I'm just not into that look, personally...
The V-Aliens tell the priests that there is no God. by Fareal	May 20th, 2009 07:44:52 AM
Anna politely informs the Earth's religions that there is no God, and all of their rules are meaningless. "We have been all across the Universe, and I can tell you that we have found no evidence of a being called God. Also, your rules about celibacy are really stupid, and which are meaningless since there is no God."
Yes and yes by ATARI	May 20th, 2009 07:45:31 AM
Yes, I would like to do her and yes, I'll give new 'V' a look/see when it airs.
snowpuff by American Mythos	May 20th, 2009 08:17:02 AM
"Because someone might say so and so DVD sucks". That's simply bs, if you're right. Shucks. I've spent thousands on Amazon, in no small part to this site. They got my money. Let me TB where I want to TB. And as for the political bullshit, just fucking stop. As someone who's been drawn into too many pointless political brawls on AICN, just get a fucking life already. This is about V -- nothing was ever about Obama or the Democrats or the Republicans! Get over it!
and, and snowpuff by American Mythos	May 20th, 2009 08:19:55 AM
That last part about politics wasn't directed at you.
Looks quite promising... by photoboy	May 20th, 2009 08:22:48 AM
... but Flash Forward looks as banal as Fringe.
Fareal: You don't need aliens to tell people there's no god by V'Shael	May 20th, 2009 08:46:52 AM
Only about 50% of Europe still has some religion. Religion still exists, but is considered "quaint".
BEASTMASTER CAMEO!!!! AWESOME! by Squashua	May 20th, 2009 09:02:44 AM
Ultimately, this will prove to be be terrible.
Bicycle Sharer.... by Unknown Canadian	May 20th, 2009 09:05:40 AM
...is there some kind of joke behind "Commander-in-chimp" that I don't know about, or is it simply the most blatantly racist thing I've seen/heard in months?
EARTH FINAL CONFLICT by BAILLIE1	May 20th, 2009 09:31:56 AM
NEW SEASON OF EFC DONE REALLY CHEAPLY BY NOT HAVING ALIEN MAKEUP AND INCORPORATING CRAPPY EFFECTS.
V'Shael by gotilk	May 20th, 2009 09:55:47 AM
Religion is kinda adorable if you really think about it. Yes YOU ARE... you're a cute widdle religion, aren't you? YES YOU ARE! throws stick
Look at me, did it again. by gotilk	May 20th, 2009 09:57:35 AM
Yakking about politics and religion when really we should be talking about a show that will tackle ... oh.. yeah.. religion and politics. With bonus hot alien(s?).
Never realized by ZeeMcQueen	May 20th, 2009 10:07:01 AM
How reptilian Morena actually looked. Still sexy.
Unknown Canadian: It's a Bush reference, not an Obama ref by chrth	May 20th, 2009 10:27:08 AM

Or at least it was a Bush reference first by chrth	May 20th, 2009 10:27:39 AM

Yeah, the "commander-in-chimp" thing... by Mistahtibbs	May 20th, 2009 10:52:26 AM
...had me wondering too. Dude! Bush ain't prez anymore. You can't keep blaming him for stuff. As for Obama? His politics are not mine and, I believe, will be highly detrimental to the US and the world. Also it'd be nice if reporters actually asked him some tough questions. As Dennis Miller recently noted - and I paraphrase - "It's a strange world where Miss California gets tougher questions than POTUS." MT out.
After all... by Mistahtibbs	May 20th, 2009 10:54:56 AM
when it comes to Obama, reporters appear to have taken the V queen's request to heart..."Don't ask any questions that would portray us negatively." MT out
Wish Anna was called Diana other that that I'm on board. by Smashing	May 20th, 2009 10:58:48 AM
V is an excelent slice of 80's TV and I re-watched it this year, still entertaining and quite gripping, I look forward to this remake, and that chick from Firefly looks sexy as hell and I'm gay so she must be doing something right or its the boyish haircut confusing me again.
...and this footage has me intrigued... by Mistahtibbs	May 20th, 2009 11:01:17 AM
...at least I have a replacement for Terminator:TSCC and The Unusuals. Don't disappoint me V producer-type people. Bicycle Sharer? If you're referring to Obama as CinChimp...just knock it off. There's so much rich material to mine in his politics, appointments, inner circle, actions, etc that resorting to DKos/HuffPo name calling is simply...silly. And it makes you seem a bit of an ass. Just sayin' I'll be watching V and give it the chance to draw me in. MT out.
warning to the present by aabiohazard1972	May 20th, 2009 11:05:34 AM
Either political side can make the types of turns that the V aliens will be doing, that's the point to the show, be careful of cult of personality movements when they start strangling freedoms (see Clinton/Bush yrs), watch out...and yes this is directed at BOTH Dems and Reps this can happen here. now more than ever, this show could be awesome if done correctly as for the short hair thing, kind of gives here a lizard-ly like profile (not sure if they are going that way with this one) she is in fact Hot and slightly alien in mannerisms so I for one look forward to this
Well, she does have the "crazy" eyes. by V'Shael	May 20th, 2009 11:13:59 AM
You all know Barney would hit that alien bitch.
gotilk: Adowable? Sure by V'Shael	May 20th, 2009 11:18:00 AM
"Religion is kinda adorable if you really think about it." Sure. The problem is with the people who don't think about, since using the ol brain is anathema to them, and yet they have access to some big ass weapons. You know, like the dude who thinks God is talking to him, helping him to run his country? Not so adorable anymore. But those thousands of little believers praying to their sky-daddy, asking him to suspend natural law and help their FOOTBALL team to victory? It's like Santa for kids who can't wait until Christmas.
You can't get more judicial activist than Bush v. Gore by Stabby	May 20th, 2009 11:32:29 AM
It was the first time I realized we live in a Banana Republic. Oh, and she's hot! She was totally wasted in that PoS Serenity. At least Josh could have had her running around in a hot outfit thru the whole movie.
V'Shael by gotilk	May 20th, 2009 11:56:02 AM
Yeah, kinda loses the cute factor when you're grasping around in a destroyed bus for your dead 4 year old's right arm.
She's 30?? by gotilk	May 20th, 2009 11:57:43 AM
She doesn't look a day over 23 to me. Good genes.
Dennis Miller by gotilk	May 20th, 2009 12:03:24 PM
Is dead to me. Has been for years. And the reason she gets tougher questions is because she's an ignorant ass. So she showed her boobies. OH the horror. Heard her speak? It's like they put a Bond villain henchman's brain in the body of a cheerleader.
The scene in Brazil/Rio de Janeiro by AsimovLives	May 20th, 2009 12:06:55 PM
When we hear the alien leader talk in the Rio de Janeiro, that's Monica Baccarin' real voice speaking in her own native language. She is brazilian, and when she speaks portuguese in that scene, that's how she really sounds in her own native language. either way, she was a most beautiful voice, regardless of language she speaks. It's too bad she has short hair now, i loved her long curly hair as seen in Firefly and Serenity.
Smashing by AsimovLives	May 20th, 2009 12:10:12 PM
There's a particular symbolism to the name Anna (or Hannah in english). In ancient hebrew, hannah means divine light, and this is why once even men were called Hannah as well, instead of it just being a feminine name only.
Nice Racism, BicycleSharer! Also, nice being a retard! by Bunger!	May 20th, 2009 12:12:03 PM
Obama is the pimp, bush is the chimp, and you can suck a dick. It is FACT that the undereducated vote Republican far more than the well-educated. It is a FACT that the whole reason our government needs to get involved with bail-outs (and hence govmt ownership of private enterprise) is that Republicans (including quasi-Repub Bill Clinton) abandoned all reasonable government responsibilty for oversight (which government always has a responsibility for, in all realms, particularly economic and industrial), and it is a FACT that you, sir, are a grade-A boob!
And do not get me started by gotilk	May 20th, 2009 12:14:07 PM
on the hilarious dichotomy circus that is the Miss California story. America, meet your subconscious.. might want to have a talk while you have the chance. "Wait! Wha? Do I hate her for showing her boobies or do I love her for hating gays??" If it were a star trek episode, and you were a robot, you'd start to smoke while proclaiming.. does not compute does not compute Until you exploded. And to be fair, same goes for a lot of liberals. They can't choose between their repressed puritanical tendencies or their support of gay rights. When the liberals started hating porn, they lost me on some level. But at least they're typically smart. Smack a right wing nutbag with hard scientific evidence, peer-reviewed and substantiated some time. It's like a combination of a deer in headlights and a judge at a witch trial. Fight or flee, one free radical encounter with a brain cell away from a close encounter with the grill of a Studebaker. I SHIT Miller quality material.
Liberals don't hate porn... by Bunger!	May 20th, 2009 12:18:17 PM
... I'm confused. It's the right wing that basically hates all things sexual and all things free-speech related. What gives with these inaccurate generalizations by the facist-partiers?
Wish her hair was longer but Monica looks great by Tacom	May 20th, 2009 12:20:27 PM
And both the extreme right and left have both been responsible for mass genocides. Hitler and Stalin. So I don't think either should be dominant.
Bunger! by gotilk	May 20th, 2009 12:23:43 PM
you are spot on absolutely right. I meant to specify. The left wing in other countries like Canada and the UK have embraced anti-porn stances a little more often than in the US. (Canada's white ribbon campaign of a few years back comes to mind) And there has been a bit of the more radical left wing feminism that has considered pornographers rapists here in the US. I should have been a little more specific. My bad. You are absolutely accurate there, in my opinion.
Tacom. I really like the short hair, it's growing on me. by gotilk	May 20th, 2009 12:25:52 PM
But the liberals want to do it for all the right reasons! lol It is true that the right meets the left at the barrier of fascism and "friendly fascism" which is, of course, for your own good. ;)
Here's where I think the left goes wrong. by gotilk	May 20th, 2009 12:27:52 PM
When it embraces religion in the name of tolerance. Tolerate all you want, but don't start capitulating to goofball sharia law and their ilk if you want to be taken seriously and advance your movement toward progressive thought.
gotilk, boy, you're arguments are all over the map by Stabby	May 20th, 2009 12:45:15 PM
I thought liberals were intolerant of religion?! Oh, except when their defending jihad. The ACLU defends Christian rights more often than you'd think.
Look lame. And she's not hot...and has no presence. by Ash Talon	May 20th, 2009 01:05:01 PM
Sorry, that chick has no presence. She's just not appealing or interseting to watch...in any way. So alien spaceships have giant tv screens on their bottoms? Really unimpressive way to have aliens address the populace. I might try this when it comes out, because I love the first V mini-series. The 2nd was far worse. And I think I've purged the TV show from my memory. This just doesn't look appealing in any way.
Tacom by AsimovLives	May 20th, 2009 01:10:31 PM
I'd exitate to classify Stalin asn an example of anything lef-wing because that man created a cult of personality about him that was in everyhing religious in nature but name, not to mention he created a bleak murderous tyrany, and that' goes completly against everything that the true left is all about.
Ash Talon by AsimovLives	May 20th, 2009 01:12:17 PM
Who can tell what aliens put at the bottom of their ships? They are ALIENS!!!
Funny thing about Morena Baccarin's name by AsimovLives	May 20th, 2009 01:13:55 PM
In portuguese, morena means brunette. And she is one. It's a strange name to have, but then again, brazilains have the strangest names.
i mean brazilians by AsimovLives	May 20th, 2009 01:14:21 PM

V by Henry Fool	May 20th, 2009 01:21:31 PM
I watched the original mini-series when it aired. I haven't seen it since so I don't know how well it's aged. The nazi-neocon shift in allegorical critiquing is certainly valid. Especially if they give us a black, puppet president who does nothing to fix the damage they've caused. I mean, come on, 50% of the wealth in America is owned by its 300 richest citizens. They've gotten so rich that the only way they can squeeze us any further is by making everyone else poor. They tell us there's an economic crisis. And fucking Barak Obama wants to bail out the banks? With our tax dollars. I'd say call his presidency as big a joke as W's except we really did elect our boy Hussein. Yes. This is truly a good time for sci-fi allegories that rip on the establishment. I wonder if they'll kill Martin again and have the same actor play his brother. Maybe they could use that plot device as a metaphor for how we elect politicians. I hope we get to see Moreena swallow a hamster. She's not as sexy without her long hair. Something about her with a Terri Bauer do kinda scares me.
The majority of Rightwingers are hypocrites. by Fareal	May 20th, 2009 01:32:15 PM
Most Rightwingers love telling us how to live our lives, and then they go screw some whore with donated money. Newt Gingrich, the former Republican Speaker of the House, cheating on his wife with the wives of his friends. The fact is that most Rightwingers belong to the Republican Party, and since most Rightwingers are hypocrites, we can conclude that most Republicans are hypocrites. Its a Proof Statement that you cannot deny.
POLITICAL MONKEYS MUST FOCUS ON THE REAL ISSUE by J-Dizzle	May 20th, 2009 01:48:11 PM
That chick ain't wearing any red and black leather! What is the world coming to when a hot she-alien on V doesn't wear any red and black leather?? Come on people, we need to boycott this travesty!
Is today's scifi slow-moving and dreamlike? by YotzVonFrelnik	May 20th, 2009 01:58:56 PM
It seems like that's what a lot of sf is being made like now. Long, ponderous scenes where people speak in calm, thoughtful tones against a gentle ambience in the background. Oh, and muted colors too. The new Day the Earth Stood Still is another example.
V for VAGINA by turketron_2	May 20th, 2009 02:08:48 PM

Stabby by gotilk	May 20th, 2009 03:29:25 PM
Make sense please.
I don't mean to sound nasty. by gotilk	May 20th, 2009 03:35:05 PM
But it's not too difficult to grasp. I don't fall in line. I'm not centrist either. At the same time I'm not one of those guys that say "it's bad on both sides man, we're all fucked". If that means I sound "all over the place", then maybe that's the case. But at least I don't suck up talking points and fire them out my ass in forums.
gotilk, I'll give you credit for your centrist view by Stabby	May 20th, 2009 03:43:15 PM
But, liberals defending sharia laws is a right wing radio talking point. I just thought it was interesting that you are saying that liberals shouldn't defend religion when most right wingers say that liberals are anti-religion. You also say that liberals are anti-porn when conservatives are the traditional champions against porn, although as you note they often find any unlikely ally in liberal feminists.
I would be kinda cool if all the aliens were hot chicks. by TheSultanOfErato	May 20th, 2009 04:00:41 PM
Like old 50s Sci-Fi B movies.
I want the vibrating voices back. by Smashing	May 20th, 2009 04:07:08 PM
They where a cool touch in the original.
75% of the Liberals I Know are the Very Definition of a Hypocrit by blhotz	May 20th, 2009 04:10:09 PM
Liberals = big Government = more rules. Liberals = V. Oh and Morena had a huge role on Stargate that is very similar to V... yet no mention?! BTW they ARE LIZARDS if you haven't seen the new trailer yet!
First! by The_Floating_Skull_of_Robert_Log gia	May 20th, 2009 04:13:43 PM
First!
Joss Whedon Would Have Made it Better by The_Floating_Skull_of_Robert_Log gia	May 20th, 2009 04:16:56 PM
The aliens would say funny, hip things like "Oh snap!" and there'd be, like, a brooding, cute alien guy and the hot human chick would, like, fall in love with him, and together they'd start a detective agency where they'd dress like cowboys and fly around in a spaceship pursuing models with no memories. Yes, Joss Whedon is a god.
Wow, things I'd rather do than watch this remake by Jake_Holman	May 20th, 2009 04:17:50 PM
1. Punch myself in the back of the throat with hobo dick. 2. Mainline Elmer's Glue All. 3. Receive analingus from a Komodo Dragon. 4. Watch any other show featuring the cast-offs of Firefly (or Buffy or Angel) (but only of the other three are unavailable). 5. Watch Firefly.
They're still lizards by cylon_conspiracy	May 20th, 2009 05:05:05 PM
They have the preview online now and they are still the oldshcool lizards underneath human skin. Bet there will be another baby birth scene.
blhotz by Kobaal	May 20th, 2009 05:29:03 PM
Earlier I was going to write something about wanting to join the Ori, but it seemed too obvious. Sure there are parallels but this is with more money and less camp, so lets roll with it.
gotilk by Kobaal	May 20th, 2009 05:46:04 PM
In many ways, the right/left divide has fucked your country over. It's just too extreme. The impression foreigners get is that all republicans live in Texas, have an IQ below 100, believe in the literal truth of the bible, own 12 guns and marry their cousin. All democrats, on the other hand, live in san francisco, are gay, black (or at least 'minority' in some way), vegan, atheist, drive a prius, are insufferably smug, and hate America. Yes, these are stereotypes. But instead of trying to dispel these myths, it's almost like commentators in your country REVEL in the schism, in an ever uglier us-vs-them cultural war. For every Rush there is a Kos. For every O'Reilly there is an Olbermann. Imagine being a pragmatic rational centrist. You'd hang yourself! One other thing, Miss California. The treatment meted out to her for exercising her right to free speech was fucking disgusting. Why haven't the same comments been thrown at Obama, who has exactly the same position? The left has a long and sad record of cowardly hypocrisy. Also, it would be nice if people stopped using the term 'neo-cons' to mean conservatives. It's boring and pathetic and inaccurate.
Kobaal by aabiohazard1972	May 20th, 2009 08:11:21 PM
"gotilk by Kobaal May 20th, 2009 05:46:04 PM In many ways, the right/left divide has fucked your country over. It's just too extreme. The impression foreigners get is that all republicans live in Texas, have an IQ below 100, believe in the literal truth of the bible, own 12 guns and marry their cousin." Well I like the question allow me to at least try to dispel this much at least I Live in Texas but was born in Virginia I was republican until I no longer felt like they represented me or my views at all, Now I am Libertarian my IQ test was 132 which I consider to be of us geeks at least commonplace, I do believe in the literal truth of the Bible, were somethings left out? yes, spirit of the story has remained intact however; Over the years I have learned that there is in fact...more to learn I married not my cousin but a very good looking Hottie 1/2 Hispanic 1/2 white girl (NON COUSIN mind you) giving me two wonderful Irish Mexican kids (that's passion people for sure), and I own 14 guns of varying caliber (I like options after all been military for 15 years, shit happens and you never know when a zombie outbreak is about to occur...made someone laugh at least) can't speak for the Dems as I no longer have any of them as friends, apparently I am intolerant and stubbornly close-minded all because I said I understand their view but won't change mine...nice so much for freedom of speech , apparently only applied to them NOW I figured you asked a good question and it deserved a response I thank you for pointing out the one thing I have been shouting to all who will hear United we stand...Divided we fall watch V learn enjhoy and lets set things right or fight it out at this point I care not which one I get anymore thanks for the mental massage Kobaal, you are more than welcome to visit Texas, no matter your view...besides you need to visit the legendary Alamo Harry keeps salivating over See Ya.
aabiohazard by Kobaal	May 20th, 2009 08:35:43 PM
No worries mate. I have a great deal of affection for the US and want it to succeed. In many ways the US really is the light on the hill, but sadly a lot of that is lost in the current bitter partisan struggles. When I eventually visit I'd like to see the north east, Florida (space centre - nerd alert), Texas and California (and perhaps Hawaii).
Looks a bit stupid. by Bob Cryptonight	May 20th, 2009 08:46:24 PM
Like the original.
Kobaal..... by Unknown Canadian	May 20th, 2009 10:45:46 PM
...Rush is Canadian.
Unknown Canadian by Kobaal	May 20th, 2009 11:05:06 PM
You must be so proud ;)
Kobaal by aabiohazard1972	May 20th, 2009 11:22:46 PM
Visit Kennedy Space center Florida for certain I went way back late 80's Visit New York (everyone must see, especially WTC site I was there 7th OCT 2001 helping dig through debris , its hallowed ground now but I still feel pride in the NYC FD and PD depts, United we all were then) See Gettysburg PA (if civil war buff) or anywhere in my old home of Virginia (most battles fought there were huge) visit Smithsonian in DC and see the sites in Texas visit Austin, pretty much all that's anything in Texas is there or an hour from there and last Enjoy Hawaii after all they gave us the awesomeness of LOST... and hot chicks in nearly nothing skip CA, they are on verge of riots plus most movie stuff is moving away from there unless you have an insider who can get you in to the "In crowd" spots best of luck and good hunting
by Unknown Canadian	May 20th, 2009 11:39:08 PM
...I AM proud. ...I'll take Geddy Lee over some ass who calls his own black President a chimp any day!
uc by Kobaal	May 21st, 2009 12:47:25 AM
sorry, you've lost me... you're proud of rush limbaugh? who is geddy lee?
Remember, Being wrong just means you've by gotilk	May 21st, 2009 04:08:11 PM
..learned something new! Stabby: I really wish it were just a right wing radio talking point. It's that dichotomy again. Sometimes people can't stand it when some asswipe they hate says something that happens to be true. Every movement/trend/revolution has it's dark corners. I just find that classic liberalism has fewer. That doesn't mean we can ignore it just because some talk radio gasbag happened to get one thing right. Kobaal: Thanks for the thoughtful reply. Neo-con unfortunately still applies in a lot of cases. Young Limbaugh listeners that think watching South Park (which I find hilarious, not knocking it) lets them off the hook for being brain-dead me-toos are all over the place. And while I don't task myself with coming up with a new term for them other than young neo-cons, I find the term "south park conservative" disingenuous. I don't go throwing the neo-con thing around all the time, but sometimes it.. just.. applies. I'm not happy with labels, but sometimes if something is ugly, it just is. Refusing to categorize it as such just sounds like you're afraid of admitting to yourself that it's ugly. Too many of us want to FEEL comfortable, FEEL like we're on the right side, FEEL safe. Instead of facing the fact that comfort isn't good as a constant state, being on the right side only works if you're winning AND willing to ignore the misdeeds of your peers in silence.. and no-one is EVER safe. Being aware of some of these things makes it very difficult for me to convince people that I'm a generally optimistic person and typically makes me silent during dinner conversation.
Yes, there are conservatives who are culturally aware by cylon_conspiracy	May 21st, 2009 06:17:34 PM
The only reason South Park is ever referenced is it is probably the only youth oriented, pop-culture show that tends to have conservative views. It is an anomaly. If it weren't so good, it would have been kicked off the air by now. Also Limbaugh's audience is usually more informed, and from different sources than the liberals who are being criticized. But it is this exact polarization between right and left that has turned me off of politics. People are individuals... and trying to paint individuals with broad strokes just to fit them in convenient little boxes is ridiculous. Not everyone can be pigeonholed like that. The word neo-con is a childish attempt to conjure up the image of a neo-nazi when thinking of conservatives. It's ridiculous.
Neo just means new. by gotilk	May 21st, 2009 06:42:13 PM
..the more you know. But honestly, I think most people know that. There's that optimism thing again.
They are Lizards by TygerClaw	May 21st, 2009 07:03:58 PM
The Full Preview Trailer for V does reveal that they are lizards. Watch for the bit at the end of the preview. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ahjPQjQGdbU
Neo is also the guy from the Matrix by cylon_conspiracy	May 21st, 2009 07:19:13 PM
But you and I both know the term Neo-Con is used because it conjures images of Neo-Nazi. It's used to associate conservatives with a notorious fascist regime. That is the intention.
Wonder Woman is not Thick either... by Monkey_King	May 22nd, 2009 04:13:53 AM
or overly muscled like one of the females you'd see in competition within the pages of 'Muscle & Fitness.' Morena, Megan Fox and Shannon Elizabeth all possess qualities that would be perfect for the Amazon from Themyscira-turned super heroine.
cylon_conspiracy by gotilk	May 22nd, 2009 09:49:27 PM
No, I'm pretty sure that's just convenient revisionism. It means NEW. Even in the nazi context. But Godwin's Law determines you killed the thread anyway. If we're not going to give credit to people for being smarter than an empty ball point pen, I at least have to insist on the responsibility of individuals to be smart enough to know better. It.means.new.
Monkey_King by gotilk	May 22nd, 2009 09:51:05 PM
Oh yes they do indeed. Type it again, this time slowly.
Wonder Woman needs by V'Shael	May 23rd, 2009 05:20:33 PM
to be a woman who is beautiful but in a secondary way. She should have presence first, and be beautiful second. Girls like Megan Fox or Scarlett Johannson are gorgeous first, and talented second. Someone like Jennifer Garner, IMO, has presence first, and is a hottie second. But I think her turn as Electra ruined any chance of her playing Wonder Woman.

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