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why the hell isnt lie to me paired with bones? by bryan007	May 18th, 2009 12:27:01 PM
seems like those two would fit together well
I'll Watch Fringe Over Office by RichardAlpert_TimePimp	May 18th, 2009 12:30:28 PM
I think it has earned that spot for me. Office can get DVRed and watched after or the next. The tough thing will the second half of Fringe will be on against 30 Rock, which I guess will have to wait, also.
Here's what Kevin Reilly, Fox prez, said about TSCC: by PennsyDeux	May 18th, 2009 12:31:08 PM
"We did see it trailing off a bit, and ultimately we made the bet on Dollhouse. That's it for Terminator. If we canceled Joss Whedon's show I would have got 110 million emails from his fans today."
Saturday night talk show? by Castlemonster	May 18th, 2009 12:32:29 PM
With Wanda Sykes? Mega-Bleh...
PennsyDeux by David Cloverfield	May 18th, 2009 12:36:33 PM
I'm glad about the outcome, TSCC could wrap up nicely in some DVD movies, there's bigger potential in Dollhouse, but Reilly's statement, is just sad for everybody involved. Sad for Fox, it let's rabid nerds dictate. Sad for TSCC for obvious reasons, and sad for Dollhouse, because they can stay on air only not for their own merit, but as a pathetic gesture for Whedon's canceled, better shows and to avoid bitching. Nobody has a right to be happy.
Dollhouse and American Idol by Fart_Master_Flex	May 18th, 2009 12:38:26 PM
I am not the smartest man in the world (Fuck, just look at the screen name I chose), but wouldn't it have been smart if Fox aired just ONE Dollhouse episode after an episode of American Idol. Just show commercials FILLED with Eliza's clevage in commercials, show a kick ass stand alone episode and see what happens.
Reaper by Blackguard	May 18th, 2009 12:44:42 PM
Reaper-Sock= No thanks
Reaper-Sock=Fine by me by chrth	May 18th, 2009 12:46:44 PM
Least important character to the show. Send him to Japan after his stepsis. Add Tony to the cast on a permanent basis. Let Nina deal with Ben pining for Sock. Win-Win-Win.
Note to Joss Whedon by kgerm	May 18th, 2009 12:47:23 PM
Please write the second season knowing full fucking well you're definitely not getting a third. Your fans would like some fucking resolution. Stop holding all the good episodes til the middle of the season, and STOP WITH THE STANDALONE SHIT! Dollhouse works better as a serialized story, as do most shows. I still don't understand why Fox seems to be the only station that wants to do that shit.
Good grief by tiredpm	May 18th, 2009 12:47:27 PM
Really? When shows on your own network (Family Guy) make jokes about how crap 'Til Death is do you really think it's worth bringing back? And then to pair it with Dollhouse? There's no thematic link there at all -- the only thing they have in common is abysmal viewership! If you want Dollhouse dead just kill it. And if you want to keep the Whedon link alive but can't justify the time slot due to the aud totals, switch it to FX -- the fans will follow it and you'll take the handcuffs off a show that actually could use the leeway for the subject matter. On a different note, is there a reason that Lie To Me only gets a front season pick-up? Can they only get Tim Roth for 13 episodes a year or are they planning on holding off and using a full season pickup as a fall back for the inevitable cancellations?
I just read the teaser for Past Life... by StatelyWayneManor	May 18th, 2009 12:48:40 PM
Good luck with that. I give it 5 shows before Fox pulls it.
this is how fox describes human target by kgerm	May 18th, 2009 12:52:31 PM
"When there is an unusual or imminent threat that can't be solved through "normal" means of protection, Chance is hired to completely integrate himself into his clients' lives to become the human target. If you're a corporate manager whose disgruntled employee has gone violently off the deep end, Chance is your new auditor. If you're the president of a bank who's been tipped off to a potential heist, Chance is your unassuming bank teller." How the fuck is that integrating himself into the lives of his clients? How the fuck does that make him a human target? He wouldn't be an auditor, he'd be the corporate manager knowing that crazy employee is coming for him. He wouldn't be a bank teller, he'd be the manager knowing full well they're coming to straight to him. As I said before in my first review of the pilot script, Chance is a dick who stands off on the sidelines for most of the action. This show has absolutely nothing going for it. Not even Rorschach would save this.
I knew FOX would find a way to fuck Fringe over by taking_up_space	May 18th, 2009 12:53:20 PM
"Hey, we've got a great show doing well, let's throw it to the wolves! Then when it gets bad ratings, we'll start playing the ole network shuffle fuck till it vanishes into oblivion." Fuck you, FOX. The news looks a bit more grim for Reaper, unless Tyler Labine stays on both shows.
Talk Show with Spike Feresten did have some moments by skimn	May 18th, 2009 12:56:35 PM
But it did come off like Conan-lite. I did enjoy Idiot Paparazzi. And I'll always remember Tim & Eric being pelted with hot dogs and hamburgers they tossed out to the audience, while performing as Casey and his brother.
Why move FRINGE? by findingclues4u	May 18th, 2009 01:04:33 PM
I know these guys are supposed to be TV genius' but good christ... why do i have to deal with every show I watch being on thursday... I'm surprised ABC hasn't moved lost to Thursday at 8
Joss reacts to Renewal; Plans for S2 by buffywrestling	May 18th, 2009 01:11:38 PM
Hibbert's Live Feed http://tinyurl.com/pt4jj8
Rick Springfield, get your HUMAN TARGET DVD commentary ready! by SpyGuy	May 18th, 2009 01:12:58 PM
Yeah, the original HUMAN TARGET series starring Rick Springfield as Christopher Chance was short-lived, but pretty enjoyable for the most part. If Valley's version takes off, one would think the Springfield series might actually surface onto DVD.
Til Death still on the air? by Big Bad Clone	May 18th, 2009 01:15:27 PM
Did they film an ass load of episodes before and need to burn them off? I don't think I've even seen it on for several months.
REAPER without Sock? But who will indulge my stripper clown fet by SpyGuy	May 18th, 2009 01:18:08 PM
If Labine's new show is a midseason replacement, isn't it possible for him to film scenes for REAPER as well? If not, at least Andi might have something to do as a full-fledged Soulbuster.
Why not open up the schedule? by Vlad the Inhaler	May 18th, 2009 01:18:15 PM
With NBC essentially abdicating the 10:00 timeslot due to Jay Leno's ego, if I were FOX I'd immediately start programming (counterprogramming!) in that slot. Fringe and Dollhouse would, IMHO, positively flower in that more appropriate time, especially given the new lack of competition. As it stands now, I suspect both shows' second season will be their last.
by luffy27	May 18th, 2009 01:20:47 PM
another brilliant fox move moving to fringe to 9pm on thursday...people actually watch so you think you can dance??
Reaper by em_tee_em	May 18th, 2009 01:23:51 PM
Actually as was reported last week Reaper is in first position for Labine so if the CW renews it he'll have to drop out of The Sons of Tucson.
til death? by luffy27	May 18th, 2009 01:25:04 PM
as much as i love reaper i bet there is a .0000000000000001 percent chance it will be back
Reilly on Dollhouse by buffywrestling	May 18th, 2009 01:26:46 PM
http://tinyurl.com/rdzv78 On the voracity of DOLLHOUSE's audience ... "If we cancelled his show, I would have had hundreds of emails from his fans this morning," says Reilly. "That audience has a core you can work with." snort
so now i guess we can by luffy27	May 18th, 2009 01:28:15 PM

so now i guess we can by luffy27	May 18th, 2009 01:28:49 PM
officially skip fox on tuesday nights
Boo hoo by Donkey_Lasher	May 18th, 2009 01:32:20 PM
TSCC got cancelled. Get over it.
Dollhouse Stats by buffywrestling	May 18th, 2009 01:44:14 PM
Some spin from Fox: DOLLHOUSE DOLLHOUSE ranks #1 in its Friday 9pm time period among Adults 18-34 and Men 18-34 and #2 with Adults 18-49, Adults 25-54, Women 18-34, and Men 18-49/25-54. DOLLHOUSE delivered FOX’s highest-rated Friday series premiere in over four years (since 1/14/05) among Adults 18-49 and Adults 18-34. DOLLHOUSE delivers an educated audience, surpassing its Total U.S Adults 18-49 average in “Adults 18-49 with 4+ Years of College.” DOLLHOUSE averages a +40% increase from Live + Same Day to Live + 7 Day, making it the #1 most time-shifted show on network television. http://tinyurl.com/qdrl5c
Yeah, just write in a long-lost twin... by Kid Z	May 18th, 2009 01:49:06 PM
..."Glove" Wysocki, a lovable slob just like his brother.
Vlad by holidill	May 18th, 2009 02:00:52 PM
That is a great idea except for the fact that local stations have the first right to air their news or syndicated shows. Sucks because I think if you put a Fringe or a Dollhouse or even a Sarah Connor Chronicles on at that time slot, you open up the possibilities for harder edged shows. But until the affiliates change their mind. We can only dream...
Gods-dammit - just shoot Dollhouse now by VAWitch	May 18th, 2009 02:01:28 PM
It'll be more merciful than the slow death a SITCOM in front of it will cause... regardless of how good Dollhouse is (I watch it either @ home DVR due to work, or HULU), this + the timeslot will kill it.
Tallboy66 by kgerm	May 18th, 2009 02:10:31 PM
Its not that the stand alone episodes don't work, it's that Dollhouse isn't CSI or fucking Law & Order. It actually has a bigger story to tell and spending five weeks trying to get everyone used to what it is the dolls do was crippling. The strongest episodes of the season were the ones where the mythology was allowed to be explored.
Who the hell... by The Fear	May 18th, 2009 02:15:19 PM
decided Michael Strahan should lead a sitcom?
Ridiculous. by CatVutt	May 18th, 2009 02:18:16 PM
Fringe to Thursday? Stupid fucking move. I dunno what the deal with the affiliates is, but now would be a PERFECT time to program stuff in that 10:00 to wipe out Leno. Seriously, who the fuck is going to watch that shit?
PISSED. by HoboCode	May 18th, 2009 02:23:55 PM
Fucking cancel Grey's Anatomy. Worst fucking tripe ever conceived. Now I'll have to DVR Fringe so my girlfriend can get her fill of nauseating, brain washing drivel.
Well hell! by Sonny_Williams	May 18th, 2009 02:26:40 PM
The ONLY good thing about moving Fringe is that American Idol can't fuck it up anymore by running over. It seems to be carved in stone at FOX that every new show that takes off gets moved to a new night against a high-rated show. Ass-clowns!
Restoring (the glee club) to its former glory...??? by Hagakure	May 18th, 2009 02:27:50 PM
That's a joke, right? An optimistic highschool teacher helping kids realize their potential? Me thinks this is going to be a huge waste of talent in terms of Jane Lynch. She kills every time she is on screen, but there is no way she is going to be able to keep this thing stringing along....and wasn't this the plot to Sister Act 2? (And wasn't Sister Act 2 the plot of every other movie about an outsider going to a highschool to help kids realize their true potential?)
Catvutt by skimn	May 18th, 2009 02:33:31 PM
Remember Fox has to go off air at 10pm for the affiliates... I remember when Bryan Cranston would "complain" that Brad Garrett would always win the best supporting comedy actor Emmy over him. But Cranston now has Breaking Bad, Garrett's got Till Death...nice trade off I'd say. A Fox exec must have fantasies over Fisher's sweater puppies (God knows I have) to keep that thing on the air.
The Tyler Labine question by Hercules	May 18th, 2009 02:44:27 PM
He was in first position on "Reaper" on the CW (which has already cancelled the show), but if "Reaper" returns in first-run syndication (a possibility being discussed) Labine may no longer be contractually obligated to return.
Interview with Joss on the news and S2 by xsi kal	May 18th, 2009 02:57:20 PM
http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/05 /joss-whedon-reacts-to-dollhou se-renewal.html "Obviously the “Til Death”/”Dollhouse” conflux has a huge fanbase. [dryly] There’s a lot of cross over between “Til Death” and “Dollhouse.” It couldn’t be a more perfect match, really." Got to love it. :P
Forgot this site cannot handle real URLs by xsi kal	May 18th, 2009 02:58:28 PM
Here's the tinyurl: http://tinyurl.com/pt4jj8
American Dad moving to 7:30.... by DanielKurland	May 18th, 2009 03:07:05 PM
This is the most telling thing on the schedule. It means FOX is slowly going to kill off American Dad, the same way it did Futurama and King of the Hill. I know a lot of you don't care about American Dad, but personally, it and King of the Hill are the only shows that make me laugh on their Sunday lineup. Furthrmore, they have unaired King of the Hill episodes, they're not going to even air those next year? The episode theiy aired last night would make for a terrible unintentional series finale. Maybe the episodes will be aired at 7:30 once American Dad is removed completely from the lineup, after being in the timeslot for three weeks.
We all don't realize that a second Dollhouse season is a bad thi by DanielKurland	May 18th, 2009 03:08:52 PM
I'm sure Joss will make it a much better show this time around, but we all know it won't get a third season. It's on Fridays still, and has a worse leadin, and now Fox can say "well we at least gave them a second year." So all we're going to have happen now is have an actually GOOD show, that we care about being cancelled, rather than a mediocre one going before anyone cared.
Wow, their trying to kill Dollhouse with that lead-in! by HollywoodHellraiser	May 18th, 2009 03:18:46 PM
FOX truly hates its audience!
So he says they "bet" on Dollhouse instead by V'Shael	May 18th, 2009 03:19:38 PM
I knew it was a toss between Dollhouse and Terminator. They'd save one, but not both. Fuck Fox for making the wrong decision. They've historically done this so often in the past, that it's become a sad joke. They'd have gotten 110 million emails? 1% of that, if they were lucky. And that'd be more than one email per fan at that. If Whedon had 110 million fans, don't you think Serenity would have made close to a billion dollars? You corporate fucking tool.
Re: The Human Target. by cookylamoo	May 18th, 2009 03:20:51 PM
You can no more have a series based on a master of disguise than you can keep Toby Maguire in a full face Spider-Man mask. People want to see the actor.
To The Person Who Suggested Pairing American Idol and Dollhouse. by ballsandbullets	May 18th, 2009 03:20:57 PM
Fox is way, way too stupid to do something that would actually give this show a chance. If they did that, they might actually get viewers, and then they couldn't point at the ratings when they cancel it next season. Oh, well. At least it's one more season than Firefly got.
Pair Glee with American Idol... by StatelyWayneManor	May 18th, 2009 03:28:37 PM
...then pair me with Eliza Dushku. You can kiss Dollhouse's location shots goodbye. It will be like the last season of Sliders where they could only afford to slide from one hotel room to the other.
I would have preferred to see TSCC over Dollhouse by Big Jim	May 18th, 2009 03:44:28 PM
(although in a perfect world we'd get both) but am happy to see Dollhouse return. Hopefully they can continue the momentum of the final few episodes of the first season into the second. Does this mean Fox is now going to air the 13th episode?
So long, Fringe. by Raymar	May 18th, 2009 03:53:58 PM
I watch the Office/30 Rock and tape Supernatural. Fringe is dead to me now.
Big Jim by buffywrestling	May 18th, 2009 03:55:08 PM
Rumor has it that they are going to show the 13th ep, just not when.
Fringe vs. Supernatural by Gislef_crow	May 18th, 2009 03:58:24 PM
Programming boneheaded move. 'nuff said.
I thought Til Death had already been canceled by Mr Spork	May 18th, 2009 04:01:33 PM
Yes, it is horrible.
So, on Dollhouse..... by cookylamoo	May 18th, 2009 04:15:05 PM
Was Alpha the one sending messages to the FBI agent through the dolls or was there yet another traitor in the house? And here's hoping Reed Diamond escapes from the attic.
Dollhouse! by johnnysunshine	May 18th, 2009 04:17:20 PM
We could complain about the extra shitty lead-in Dollhouse is getting, but I'm just so happy it got renewed at all. Seems like most of us are watching it on the internet or dvr anyway since it's on Friday night. Would have been awesome if they kept Fringe on Tuesdays, but moved it up to 8pm, then had Dollhouse follow it at 9.
Wanda Sykes Show by johnnyangel	May 18th, 2009 04:23:48 PM
Thank goodness someone is finally going to give it to those pesky Republicans! Hollywood has been giving them a free ride for too long!
Goddammit, FRINGE is going to get fucking killed in this slot by zillabeast	May 18th, 2009 05:09:21 PM
Then FOX will have their excuse to scale down the budget and doom Walter and company to Friday nights, where it will die a slow, agonizing death. Shame on you FOX. If you have any real balls, you would put the IDOL results show head to head with CSI and Grey's Anatomy. Thrusday night CHAOS!
Brother's will be the worst show of the season by walrusholder	May 18th, 2009 05:40:39 PM
oh and the sky is blue
Fringe by Toonol	May 18th, 2009 05:43:09 PM
No question for me, I'll watch it over its competition. As far as Dollhouse goes... maybe they figure that since half the audience timeshifts it, it doesn't matter when it airs or what leads into it?
24 Premiere 9-11PM by Hendrix4747	May 18th, 2009 06:29:33 PM
Kind of strange. Maybe they're trying out using the 10PM slot.
God Damnit by Holy Hell	May 18th, 2009 07:39:25 PM
I will choose the office. I have no dvr.fring was getting awesome, but michael scott is sublime. why must they bludgeon me so?
I was sure "Til Death" was cancelled...? by Thrillho77	May 18th, 2009 07:42:49 PM

I watched the last two episodes of fringe by tbransonlives	May 18th, 2009 07:43:32 PM
They hooked me, I'm hoping it will help replace BSG, Lost and Supernatural after next year. But it's Supernatural's last season(probably Fringe's too seeing what it's up against)so Fringe is getting Tivoed. Also many thanks to Hobocode for catching me up on Fringe.
it wasn't just a case of 'pick one' by oisin5199	May 18th, 2009 07:44:26 PM
what's really interesting about this Dollhouse renewal, is that Fox is showing that it's willing to consider DVR and Hulu viewings, instead of the old Nielsen model. Maybe there's hope that networks will embrace new media business models. Dollhouse did very well in that area. Terminator didn't. Face it, V'Shael, Dollhouse was a better prospect in every area.
oisin5199 by Jack_Bauer	May 18th, 2009 08:46:46 PM
Terminator consistantly outperformed Dollhouse in DVR numbers and was among the top sellers on iTunes etc. There is only one major reason it wasn't renewed and Dollhouse was. DH is a Fox production so any dvd sales = profit for them. Terminator is made by WB therefore Fox receives no cut of the dvd profits. end of story. and end of show too, the cunts.
oisin by buffywrestling	May 18th, 2009 08:57:27 PM
I don't think Dollhouse was a better prospect in every area, only in two, really. Dollhouse was a 20th studio production and T:SCC was a Warner Bros, jacking up lisencing costs and Dollhouse was on it's first season while T:SCC was on it's third and it's loss of veiwer demo was seen to be more dramatic over that period of time.
POLL TIME: raise your hand if you like FOX... by Amy Chasing	May 18th, 2009 09:20:57 PM
Bueller?...
jaydog..... by DrMorbius	May 18th, 2009 09:25:34 PM
Still waiting, you know, the DOLLHOUSE not getting renewed thing. You eating crow!!!Didn't think you'd be back, with no spine it must be hard to get around!! ThusAteMySpunk, The above goes for you too!!!
Amy Chasing by buffywrestling	May 18th, 2009 09:28:27 PM
I distrust Execs in general - not limited to Fox.
buffywrestling by Amy Chasing	May 18th, 2009 09:58:11 PM
Fox (and News Corp for that matter) seems to be the Microsoft/McDonalds of TV networks. We all seem to use their products, even if they're poorly made, and we can't stand how they do business.
There is no reason not to pair Fringe and Dollhouse by reflecto	May 18th, 2009 11:10:27 PM
None.
Further proof by My Pretty Pony	May 19th, 2009 02:27:36 AM
of how fucking stupid FOX is. They cancel "Terminator" just before the movie comes out and renew "Dollhouse", only to schedule it after two comedies! They renewed "'Til Death"?! Seriously? Then, they go and move "Fringe" to Thursday night, the toughest night on television? Screw those idiots at FOX.
Die, Fox! by Timstuff	May 19th, 2009 02:34:16 AM
You took away Arrested Development, you took away Firefly, and now you've taken away Terminator! I hope NBC kicks your ass next season, because nothing would be more humiliating than getting your ass kicked by NBC!
You can have Sock by The McPoyle Clan	May 19th, 2009 05:16:52 AM
he was best in small doses anyway. If Reaper survives, give us more Andi, and preferably not in the typical work clothes.
SYTYCD in the summer and fall? by sighborg	May 19th, 2009 07:36:44 AM
Are they going to have Dance run twice a year? I thought the summer version started May 21. I only watch for the hot chicks. And the hip hop dancers are entertaining. And I want to make Mary Murphy scream.
cookylamoo by kgerm	May 19th, 2009 08:21:41 AM
It wouldn't matter if the story was engaging enough and if the psychological decay the main actor was going through was real. this shit was just boring.
SONS of TUCSON - I guess REAPER is dead, then? by Squashua	May 19th, 2009 10:34:13 AM
Tyler Labine made off easy; he just has to play Sock again, apparently.
Andi was wasted in Reaper... by StatelyWayneManor	May 19th, 2009 10:35:41 AM
I'm shocked, shocked, shocked that something Kevin Smith was involved with failed. Time for Clerks 3!
MEDIUM TO CBS: CONFIRMED. by PennsyDeux	May 19th, 2009 10:44:31 AM
http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/20 09/05/breaking-nbc--1.html
Kevin Smith was hardly involved with Reaper. by V'Shael	May 19th, 2009 10:44:54 AM
He directed the pilot, and sort of tonally set the tone for future directors. But that's it.
Do Fox Execs get Stoned and... by Domi'sInnerChild	May 19th, 2009 11:28:15 AM
plot ways to mess with Whedon? "Okay, okay, I got it. We'll renew Dollhouse... but we'll pair it with give me a cancelled shitty sit com!" "'Til Death?" "Yeah, 'Til Death. And can somebody get me like an odd couple sit com with an ex NFL player?"
Videos that work in the UK, awesome. by Smashing	May 19th, 2009 12:31:05 PM
I feel truly part of something special today.
Just cancel Dollhouse and Castle... by Swoomustdie	May 19th, 2009 12:34:15 PM
and bring back Firefly! Fillion is too good for that crappy show, and Dollhouse is boring and set to fail hard now with a show that many thought had been dead for years as the new lead in.
I liked fringe...... by archer1949	May 19th, 2009 09:33:31 PM
But American Attention Whore Karaoke kept running over and screwing up my DVR with their fucking bullshit! Now they are moving it to the Friday death slot. I'm cutting off my cable and saving myself a few bucks a month. I'll wait until the DVD for Fringe and Dollhouse. If there was any Justice in the world, Firefly would still be going and that Karaoke bullshit would be long forgotten.
Kirk Acevedo just got fired... by Naughty	May 20th, 2009 01:57:22 PM
from Fringe! Stupid, idiot producers!

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