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THIS is how you write a review
by YackBacker
May 6th, 2009
10:34:22 AM
Herc, takes notes
Nice review
by mrfan
May 6th, 2009
10:36:57 AM
Will see it this weekend.
In before first "AISTN" comment
by chrth
May 6th, 2009
10:38:55 AM
You never watched "Next Generation?"
by zacdilone
May 6th, 2009
10:40:11 AM
That's too bad. The later seasons of TNG not only matched the original series, I think it actually surpassed it in both vision and entertainment level. And a couple of seasons of DS9 were pretty stellar as well. Sure, the rest of DS9 got repetitive, and Voyager and Enterprise are instantly forgettable, but to ignore the legacy of TNG is a real shame. At its best it was great Trek, great science fiction, and great drama.
how about a gigantic fucking spoiler alert!
by Cap'n Jack
May 6th, 2009
10:44:43 AM
you basically said that vulcan is destroyed and Pike dies...WTF!
Hoo Lord
by Aquatarkusman
May 6th, 2009
10:45:50 AM
"Pine walks through this film like he's packing a 12-inch stiffy right alongside his phaser." No comment. // BTW, the redundancy in this site's reviews is like having 12 different definitions for "superfluous." I would bet that even the studio suits are averting their eyes in half-shame.
I'm seeing this in IMAX on Friday!
by ganymede3010
May 6th, 2009
10:49:20 AM
Can't wait. Hell, even my anti-geek culture GF is ecstatic to watch this film. This could be big, very BIG.
Wait a second
by chrth
May 6th, 2009
10:49:21 AM
Vulcan is destroyed and Pike dies?!? Way to ruin it, Cap'n Jack!
Pine walks through this film like he's packing a 12-inch stiffy
by Bob Parr
May 6th, 2009
10:50:30 AM
Loved that line! Liked the review too. Grew up watching the series, and I too never wanted to watch TNG until I caught an episode of DS9, then I went and caught up on all of the Treks over the years. They were all entertaining, some flawed and dissappointing (especially "Enterprise"), but I enjoyed them all none the less. Looking forward to the the movie.
Cap'n Jack
by Capone
May 6th, 2009
10:52:44 AM
See that big giant box around the headline on the opening AICN page? See the word "Spoiler"? That's what we in the business call a gigantic fucking spoiler alert. And at least one of your presumptions of something I've spoiled is incorrect.

by Bulvai
May 6th, 2009
10:54:19 AM
Nice review...thanks.
Just a Few More Days!
by DKT
May 6th, 2009
10:54:57 AM
Nice review, Capone. Just when I didn't think I could be anymore stoked to see this movie...
Nice review...thanks.
by Bulvai
May 6th, 2009
10:55:00 AM
DEADPOOL MOVIE ANNOUNCED
by funnyhat
May 6th, 2009
10:56:29 AM
http://movies.ign. com/articles/979/979991p1.html AICN you guys are dropping the ball! IGN again scoops you guys.
Totally made me happy
by spiceybiscuit
May 6th, 2009
10:56:37 AM
Great view! So excited to see this movie.. J.J. is the shit!
I'll second that Yackbacker - GREAT REVIEW
by LaneMyersClassic
May 6th, 2009
10:56:54 AM
I am also with Capone on only seeing the original series. I had no interest in the other series. I did try to watch an episode or two of the next generation, but found it uninteresting and not compelling. The original series always had a sense of urgency and importance and knew the value of having three main characters play out the episodes. Whenever I flip through the channels and see the original series, I am compelled to stop and watch.
and i skipped the review
by funnyhat
May 6th, 2009
10:57:42 AM
cause im seeing it in imax tomorrow night. I'm sure it's a good review, and i'll comment tomorrow night after seeing it for myself! i'm really trying to avoid everything about this movie, i want to be genuinley surprised for once!
Here come the haters!
by D.Vader
May 6th, 2009
10:57:55 AM
Though I'm surprised- I thought we already had a Trek review from Capone?
Give DS9 a chance if you've got the time
by ME_M
May 6th, 2009
10:58:35 AM
Capone, if you get the itch to check out any of the later series, remember that one of the masterminds behind the newer BSG (Ron Moore) had a heavy influence in DS9. You still get the occasional mediocre episode, but there were plenty of episodes that focused on religion, politics, and espionage in mind-blowing fashion. And any series that has Tony Todd in two roles (Worf's brother, future version of Sisko's son) can't be all bad.
Damn it!
by Azlam Orlandu
May 6th, 2009
11:06:15 AM
I can't fucking wait to see this.
For the Haters
by BlueHawaiiSurfer
May 6th, 2009
11:12:54 AM
yeah, watch this video, lol. http://tinyurl.com/dfs3yj
Re: Ash0k
by maelstrom_ZERO
May 6th, 2009
11:14:32 AM

DS9 is probably the best ST series out there. Yes, TNG had its moments, but DS9 was a realistic, post-modern take on the ST universe. There were overarching arcs dealing with the Cardassian occupation of Bajor, the Maquis rebel group, Cisco's role as the Emissary, which all led to the war with the Dominion.

Truth be told, it *is* a little dated. . .some episodes I found to be terribly boring, and it wasn't as serial-focused as, say, 24 or Lost or BSG. But when all is said and done, I walked away from DS9 feeling fairly confident that it was the best Trek series out there--yes, even beating out Picard and TNG.

Hell Yes Ash0k
by jimmy_scotland
May 6th, 2009
11:16:40 AM
Have you ever seen a better Star Trek Episode than "Far Beyond The Stars"?
Copone: Re- Spoiler Alert
by BibFortuna
May 6th, 2009
11:16:57 AM
Some of us get headlines from the RSS feed and don't see any black boxes or spoiler tags that you are referring to. Maybe add "-- Spoiler" to the headlines?
DS9 dated?
by ME_M
May 6th, 2009
11:20:12 AM
I remember watching some episodes a few years ago, and how eerily current events (terrorism, war in Iraq, religious fundamentalism) were to what was going on in the show.
I'm going to see it, but...
by Magnus Greel
May 6th, 2009
11:21:00 AM
I haven't seen a movie so openly fellated on this site. Ever.
better episode--TNG inner Light
by Six Demon Bag
May 6th, 2009
11:21:46 AM
hands down better
you guys need to learn to skim reviews
by Rupee88
May 6th, 2009
11:23:04 AM
I am avoiding spoilers and just read the first couple of paragraphs of this review and part of the last one. I got the essence of the review without the spoilers. But if you ever read a review, you are obviously risking reading spoileresque text...just blame yourself and not the reviewer.
CAPONE
by captain_kirk
May 6th, 2009
11:27:16 AM
I saw the movie last night in a screening, and I agree about everything you say. In truth, a few of the plot points should be absolutely aggravating, but they work so well in the context of the film. There are certainly some flaws (upon reflection they are more akin to gaps or breezed-over explanations) but they never really detract from the movie. For those who say this is both a prequel and a sequel, they are correct. Is this a reboot? No way. I think Chris Pine owns Kirk. I think that Zoe Saldana rocked Uhura. Liked Chekov and Sulu. I like Bones, but he talks like he has marbles in his mouth. And Spock needs to have a more emotive voice. Scotty was awesome too.

by crankyoldguy
May 6th, 2009
11:27:20 AM
DS9
by captain_kirk
May 6th, 2009
11:28:09 AM
I have not seen so many DS9 lovers in a long long time. For my money, DS9 was a terrific show...deep, textured, layered, and not afraid to explore the frontier within.
ME_M
by maelstrom_ZERO
May 6th, 2009
11:29:53 AM
By dated, I didn't mean the actual content of the show. I meant more of the execution. Most shows nowadays are arc-focused, serialized dramas, where if you miss one episode, you're absolutely lost as to what happened if you jump in an episode later. That's certainly the case with 24 or Lost or Supernatural. DS9 wasn't strictly an arc-based serialized drama until the last 7-9 episodes of the last season. Everything before that, if you missed an episode, you could still figure out what was going on.
TNG stand-out Eps include...
by crankyoldguy
May 6th, 2009
11:30:15 AM
Measure of a Man Inner Light Best of Both Worlds parts 1/2 (duh..) Lessons (the intelligent, sexy and a woman, not a girl, Lt. Cmdr. Daren) played by Wendy Hughes) All Good Things and there are more, of course from seven years of that show
You See, People That Overuse "Own" and "Rocked" As Verbs...
by Aquatarkusman
May 6th, 2009
11:30:55 AM
... giving a movie glowing reviews is like a panning from someone I respect.
I hope they clamped down on Nimoy's denture problem.
by Bob Cryptonight
May 6th, 2009
11:31:09 AM
It's hard to watch him talk in interviews, poor guy. Maybe they don't fit correctly.
I knew Bana would rule this fucker.
by Stuntcock Mike
May 6th, 2009
11:32:09 AM
Chopper! Neville?!
DS9
by Stanton
May 6th, 2009
11:35:18 AM
Used to love it. Recently downloaded some, and watched them again for the first time in years. Not a huge Trek fan anymore, but episodes I'd say were worth anyone's time are: "our man bashir","the assignment", "trials and tribulations", "far beyond the stars", "one little ship", "in the pale moonlight". And any where Rom has a prominent role; Max Grodenchik was hilarious in retrospect.
20:30 Frankfurt time
by jimmy_scotland
May 6th, 2009
11:36:09 AM
And I'll be there. I haven't been this excited since Generations came out!
Capone..
by The Dark Shite
May 6th, 2009
11:37:11 AM
To be fair to Cap'n Jack, your review didn't need any spoilers at all & your reply to him was pretty fucking harsh.

You know as well as I do, that a good reviewer spends as much time as he can, finding a way to write his opinions without any spoilers at all, even finding ways to reference the events & the reasons he liked them, without giving those events away. Not just thinking "Fuck it, let's stick it in a box."

I did your job for years, albeit for a newspaper. If I handed in a review with spoilers I'd either be made to redo it/have it edited by somebody else, or it wouldn't be printed. So he was well within his rights & your ego rampage high-horsing "that's what we in the business call a gigantic fucking spoiler alert" is a bit too cocky.

Spoilers are what we in the REAL business call lazy, unprofessional pseudo journalism.

You can rant at me like you did at him, but I'll still be right. I'm going to bed..SPOILER..I may sleep more soundly than you, as I won't have JJ's hairy tribbles in my mouth.

Conflicting reviews
by maddox
May 6th, 2009
11:37:34 AM
Capone says the new actors play the old parts well. Example: "Karl Urban IS Dr. McCoy, plain and simple"

But Herc says the new actors bear little resemblance to the old roles.

What gives?!? Which is it?

Rom
by Stanton
May 6th, 2009
11:40:46 AM
What was the masturbation joke??
I have to admit
by Blancoshadow
May 6th, 2009
11:43:27 AM
now i'm getting interested in this movie...
Nimoy was wasted, Shatner was right.
by Carl's hat
May 6th, 2009
11:46:40 AM
That's right. Just saw it and it's mediocre. Pretty good but too many things that just don't make sense, Nimoy there merely for exposition and too many cutesy smiles amongst the crew. Guess I'm just too old, this made me miss the old show even more.
Carl's hat
by jimmy_scotland
May 6th, 2009
11:54:45 AM
You contradict yourself. "Just saw it and it's mediocre." Then your next sentence, "Pretty good...". Make your mind up dude.
In the Pale Moonlight
by JohnRyder
May 6th, 2009
11:56:33 AM
I think is the best Star Trek episode. EVER. After that is the one where the Holodoc falls in love with Seven.
AICN Is Gay For Jay Jay
by AsimovLives
May 6th, 2009
11:57:02 AM
Capone's review is well writen and on itself it's a pleasant read. But i have to say, i take Capone's reviews of blockbusters with a pitch of salt. Capone is always dead on about art house, indies and foreign mvoies, but about blockbusters, all bets are off. Therefore, his take on Jay Jay's Star Trek doesn't convince me either. I'll have to wait for Mrs Alexandra DuPont and Vern to actually get word from aAICN reviewer i can trust. until then, all this gushing praising just reeks of the worst case of selling out from AICN in all it's history.
Stanton
by DrMorbius
May 6th, 2009
11:58:52 AM
It was DS9 !
DS9 WAS the best Trek show. Why?
by mr_macphisto
May 6th, 2009
12:01:21 PM
Because Jadzia Dax was the hottest woman on Star Trek. FACT.
JohnRyder
by AsimovLives
May 6th, 2009
12:02:12 PM
Unless i'm too mistaken, "In The Pale Moonlight" is a Deep Space Nine episode, not Voyager.

By the way, The Hitcher (1985) kicks ass, an excelent thriller. The remake, however, is fucking shit.
Rom on DS9...
by Kid Z
May 6th, 2009
12:05:21 PM
... with the hot Dabo (sp?) Girl wife. WTK was up with that?

by Stanton
May 6th, 2009
12:05:31 PM
Yeah - the Magnificent Ferengi was up there, as well as Prophet Motive. Star Trek doesn't get funnier than Wallace Shawn being kidnapped while humming in a sack. "Far beyond the stars" was the best though - it just encapsulated Star Trek. I have to say though that Star Trek lost its balls in the 90s. Roddenberry could put blacks, whites, Americans and Russians together in space with interracial kisses, but in the 24th century homosexuality didn't exist?! I was a big fan, but it did get eunuchised by Paramount's profit-machine.
AsimovLives
by JohnRyder
May 6th, 2009
12:06:54 PM
never said it was Voyager. That episode works even as a stand-alone. I liked voyager though. It had some pretty good episodes. Maybe I was just at the right age at that time. Or the hate-vibe just did not reach europe.
DS9 Episodes
by Cookleberry
May 6th, 2009
12:07:33 PM
How can you forget "The Visitor"? I'm tearing up just thinking about it. That was DS9's best.
Deadpool flick is greenlit
by fiester
May 6th, 2009
12:11:21 PM
This just in: Deadpool with Ryan Reynolds has been greenlit.
I've had IMax tickets for a week...
by DellsDontBounce
May 6th, 2009
12:11:25 PM
And Friday CANNOT get here soon enough!
Fuck off Cap'n Jack
by slone13
May 6th, 2009
12:14:18 PM

You asking for a spolier alert is the epitome of the pot calling trhe kettle black.

Good day.

Fucking spoiler tags weren't there
by cossack_says_die
May 6th, 2009
12:20:56 PM
when I first clicked. FUCK. Ive been saving myself for this. Haven't watched a single fucking clip. FUCK. This is the first review I decided to read, why god why?
enough with the shaky cam bullshit
by JimmyJoe RedSky
May 6th, 2009
12:21:14 PM
itds not even shaky as in hand held - the camera shifts horizontally left or right a few degrees for no reason - why - when i shoot something i dont have to make it look even more hand held by randomly shifting the frame left or right for no reason - lame and im sick of it - save that shit for er or the shield - this is star trek - respect it - imagine lawrence of arabia shot like this - all shifty and shaky and full of lens flares worse than you get with high 8 video - enjoy the trend while it last you gen y sheep
ASSHATLives is back......
by DrMorbius
May 6th, 2009
12:21:17 PM
And if Miss DuPont and Vern don't agree with you, then what? You'll keep searching til you find someone who does so you can say "I told you so..." Someone you can "trust" would be someone that agrees with you, how very sad you are. What is the color of the sky on your world today, you SYCOPHANTIC ASS LEECH? Conspiracy, Conspiracy!!
No TNG, Capone?
by GaiustheBrave
May 6th, 2009
12:22:54 PM
WTF? Great series. You're missing out. Measure of a Man WAS a great episode! I'm a bit reticent to say that I'm also very fond of Elementary, Dear Data.
I'm too old to be laughing at Melvin_Pelvis's
by GaiustheBrave
May 6th, 2009
12:24:40 PM
last two posts, but it doesn't seem to be stopping me from it.
I meant the ones about getting him hard,
by GaiustheBrave
May 6th, 2009
12:26:15 PM
not his father or the Vallium Generation.
BlueHawaiiSurfer
by DrMorbius
May 6th, 2009
12:32:00 PM
Thanks for the link you posted, pretty funny stuff, I forwarded it to many fans.
Darmok was my fave TNG
by kwisatzhaderach
May 6th, 2009
12:33:48 PM
and Yesterday's Enterprise of course.
definition of reboot
by oisin5199
May 6th, 2009
12:36:21 PM
"to save it and breathe new life into it by making us see these characters in ways we'd never dreamed possible" - yup, that's pretty much a reboot. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but don't deny it's a reboot.

And really, not one episode of Next Generation and Deep Space Nine? 2 shows that redefined television science fiction that, at their best, far surpassed the original series in scope and depth? I understand the groundbreaking nature of the show at the time and the 60s fanboy love for the old characters - I share it - but let's not pretend the old show was anything more than bravado and some decent ideas wrapped around a core of schlock.

Note - if you want to know why Nero blames Spock, read the Countdown comic, written by the film's screenwriters. Maybe they explain it and the film and Capone missed it, but it's in the comics.

finally, that 'hand-held' quality done in Battlestar Galactica was first done in Firefly, and it was a technique the BSG effects guys adapted. So give credit where it's due.

Seeing this tomorrow night, and can't wait, despite Capone's kinda annoying review. Tonight, though, it's all about Leonard Cohen in Chi-Town.

"explain it IN the film"
by oisin5199
May 6th, 2009
12:37:34 PM
Aquatarkusman
by Alen Smithee
May 6th, 2009
12:38:54 PM
And yet if every review on this site trashed if it was a bad film, would somehow make the reviewers more credible? Maybe the film is actually good. Anything is possible
The Visitor
by Cookleberry
May 6th, 2009
12:39:37 PM
Glad to see I'm not the only one that episode rips to shreads. I start crying when I see the opening sequence and don't stop until an hour after its over.
There was a handjob Ferengi joke on Next Generation
by D.Vader
May 6th, 2009
12:43:55 PM
When Troi's mom is kidnapped by Ferengi, she pretends to be one of the Fergengi's love-slave to give Ryker and Troi time to find a way to escape, and starts lovingly stroking his large ears. The ferengi makes strange noises and when Troi's mom asks what the deal is, he replies something like "The ear is our largest erogenous zone."
Dear lord why do you test me!?
by Alphanumeric1971
May 6th, 2009
12:45:32 PM
I mean everything I've heard about this film basically shits on everything I've loved about star trek, and I know that if I go I will be disappointed, but still there is a tiny piece of me that hopes. I've said that I am not going to go see this movie, but still...
ARMOND WHITE STRIKES AGAIN!
by AzulTool
May 6th, 2009
12:46:25 PM
Looks like Star Trek will not get 100% on RT, thanks to our old friend Armond White of New York Press. Congrats Armond, your agenda has officially been acknowledged!
Thanks, BlueHawaiiSurfer
by GaiustheBrave
May 6th, 2009
12:46:50 PM
That was pretty funny.
Fandango: ST accounts for 80% of all online ticket sales
by PennsyDeux
May 6th, 2009
12:48:34 PM
right now. MovieTickets.com says almost 45% of its IMAX (real or converted?) screening sales are for ST. This could be Dark Knight huge.
The Stiffy Line deserves to be on the poster
by TheReverendDavidLee
May 6th, 2009
12:49:10 PM
"Pine walks through this film like he's packing a 12-inch stiffy right alongside his phaser." --AintItCool.com Absolutely brilliant
Cap'n Jack
by whitty
May 6th, 2009
12:50:59 PM
Don't be an idiot. If you're reading a review of a film, expect spoilers. It's your fault.
Dammit. I'm starting to get excited.
by Royston Lodge
May 6th, 2009
12:58:23 PM
With every single review dumping unending praise on this flick, I'm finally STARTING to get really excited about it. But, that being said, I'm still prejudiced by how much I dislike Chris Pine (from what I'm seen of him, which I admit is only from the trailers) and how much Sula-as-portrayed-by-a-Korean- actor causes irrational cognitive dissonance in my puny brain. I KNOW it shouldn't, but it does. Sulu is Japanese, not Korean, dammit! To me, it's like having Kevin Costner play Robin Hood with an American accent. It just is.

Still, only two more sleeps until opening day! You know I'll still be laying down my $10.

Re: Alternate Timelines (Again)
by ArmageddonProductions
May 6th, 2009
01:02:07 PM
Here's what nobody seems to be saying about the "time traveling reset button" premise: if it created an alternate timeline, why did Spock have to go back there? It's an alternate timeline, nobody HE knows is gonna get hurt, and by virtue of creating an alternate timeline, the Hulk's brilliant plan is automatically rendered moot, since the Spock HE'S after isn't gonna be affected by his schemes. In fact, does this mean there's an alternate timeline every goddamn instance somebody in STAR TREK time travels, like in IV, or that episode where Spock had to wear a ski cap? Why not just have the nuts to go "Okay, it changed everything, there ain't gonna be no more Data or Gary Seven, folks, throw out your model kits!" OR, even more nutsy, just say "We're rebooting the goddamn original series, since flip-clock technology ain't gonna fly in 2009! Be a man and suck it up!"
DrMorbius
by AsimovLives
May 6th, 2009
01:03:29 PM
If Alexandra DuPunt and Vern likes this movie, then it will give me pause in my deel skepticism. It's not that i haven't disagree with them before, but i do respect trheir opinion a hell of a lot and they are, by far, the most intelligent of the AICN reviewers and the least prone to kiss the asses of filmamkers and to be involved in sell out schemes.

and i'm sorry if i'm pissing in your parade, but frankly, all this gushing going on about Jay Jay's Star Trek, and given his past history (writer of Armageddon) and with all that i have learned about the movie, enven form the people praising it, it gives me a very convincing image that this movie is one big piece of shallow ass crappitude and a new redefinition of the concept of over-hype.
Royston Lodge
by DrMorbius
May 6th, 2009
01:04:02 PM
$10 regular theater, $16.50 IMAX
Well done, Capone.
by Mr. Nice Gaius
May 6th, 2009
01:06:03 PM
I've never been a real big fan of STAR TREK but I have enjoyed a fair share of its various incarnations. I rather liked TNG but prefered the movies with the original cast.

That being said, I'm now somewhat interested in checking this out. If it's smart and contains any of the mojo that made the franchise what it is, then I'm there.

DrMorbius
by AsimovLives
May 6th, 2009
01:07:45 PM
and what is any syncopanthic in my attitude? If anything, i'm the polar oposite of syncopanchy that's going on about this movie. It's AICN's reviewers who hare showing of the worst case of sycopanchy since ever in their how website history to a filmmaker and his movie. Do you even know what sycophancy means?
AICN's Collective Trek reviews in a word:
by Sal_Bando
May 6th, 2009
01:08:15 PM
FAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAP ...FAP.

In this case, it may be warranted. But, According_To Noted_Sage Yack_Backer-and I quothe----NEEDS GIANT ROBOTS. I most heartily, agree.

DrMorbius
by Mr. Nice Gaius
May 6th, 2009
01:09:17 PM
Well said regarding "ASSHATLives". That guy looks for stuff that doesn't exist and he wants this movie to fail simply because he doesn't like J.J. Abrams.
Yet another AISTN copy & paste job.
by scriptgirl_nipples
May 6th, 2009
01:09:34 PM
Go figure...
Sal_Bando
by Mr. Nice Gaius
May 6th, 2009
01:10:17 PM
What's up you crazy bastard!

EVERYTHING NEEDS GIANT ROBOTS!

MrGeyser-
by Sal_Bando
May 6th, 2009
01:11:08 PM
-I agree!
Re: Alternate Timelines - My counterpoint
by Royston Lodge
May 6th, 2009
01:14:27 PM
Here's why I think it's important to Spock:

Star Trek has already established that an "alternate timeline" is not the same thing as an "alternate universe". As such, an alternate timeline can OVERWRITE the timeline that a character knows and loves.

For example, the Mirror Universe is an alternate universe. As such, if someone dies in the Mirror Universe it shouldn't really matter to someone from the "primary" universe.

But when the Enterprise-C travelled forward in time to meet with the Enterprise-D, it created an alternate timeline that SUPERCEDED the primary timeline. As such, the characters decided that the Enterprise-C had to be sent back to meet its own destruction (while taking Tasha Yar with it, which caused all sorts of problems later on).

Also, when the Enterprise-E went back to the day before Cochrane launches into space, they briefly glimpse the alternate timeline that the Borg have created.

The "alternate timeline" in both these examples are NOT "alternate universes" that exist ALONGSIDE the "primary universe". They are timelines that have been written over the primary timeline, and the characters are only aware of the change because (in the Enterprise-C incident) Guinan happens to be a member of a species that's particularly sensitive to temporal physics or (in the case of First Contact) the phenomenon that allows them to travel through time shields them from the changes to the timeline.

So, following the internal logic of established Trek physics (as opposed to real-life physics), Spock going back in time to fix the damage Nero does is perfectly feasible. It all depends on how the writers explain it. Either Vulcans share the same temporal sensitivity that Guinan's species enjoys, or Spock is shielded from the changes in the timeline because he's caught up in the same phenomenon that Nero uses to go back in time.

Or, the writers come up with some new explanation that doesn't contradict established Trek physics.

Or, the writers fuck up and it actually ends up making no sense.

I'll see for myself on Friday.

IN SUMMARY - THIS ROCKS
by BringingSexyBack
May 6th, 2009
01:17:59 PM
Nuff said?
DrMorbius - Ticket price
by Royston Lodge
May 6th, 2009
01:18:08 PM
I don't think there's an IMAX screen in my town showing it. At any rate, I've never seen a non-educational IMAX film before, but that doesn't mean I haven't been living under a rock. So I'll revise and state that I'll PROBABLY be laying down $10 on Friday. However, I'll gladly pay the IMAX tax if it's an option.

(BTW: Blue Planet is THE BEST IMAX flick they show at museum IMAX screens. You totally feel like you'd fall UP if you jumped out of your seat. Total . . . fucking . . . vertigo. Wild stuff.)

The Spock Nero/Time Travel
by BojTrek
May 6th, 2009
01:18:37 PM
It makes sense Royston... saw it with Capone's group last Thursday. It is really a good movie... I never see movies twice at the theater... I am going to see these a minimum of 2-3 times... I never do that... I always see a movie, if I enjoy it... Blu-Ray... but I have to see this again!
IT'S OBVIOUS BALE HAS BLESSED THIS MOVIE
by BringingSexyBack
May 6th, 2009
01:20:06 PM
How else to explain the love?
The most hillarious thing about all this
by AsimovLives
May 6th, 2009
01:22:12 PM
I did some archeological diggings in this site, and i discovered Moriarty's review of Jay Jay Abram's script for Superman, back in the day when it was a project where Michael Bay was attatched as director.

And Moriarty's review is merciless in it's complete demolition of Jay Jay's script. And not jsut moriarty's, but the general reaction from the geeks to Moriarty's review. and onething i noticed: Jay Jay is pulling out with Star Trek the same stunts he was pulling for Superman. Only, the same things he was insulte,d and rightly so, for Superman, he's being prised for Star trek. so it mamde me wonder, what's different this time?

The answer to that is simple: back then, Jay Jay was a nobody. He was just a writer for hire. He was not Mr Lost. He barely registed as a name. He was this guy you hired on the cheap to polish aopmebody's else scripts. So, what Moriarty did was he reviewed a Jay Jay work in a very pure state. And it is teling what a loser this guy is as a talent for writing scripts. As in, not much talent at all. His Superman's script reads as a colelctions ofmoment imagined by an egomaniac foll whith a too big of an image of himself who thinks nothingof being faithful to any type of canon in existence, who has downright despise for anything created by anybody else but himself, and who remourselessly to shove his enourmous ego into everything. but when he was a nobody, and when he was a powerless tool, he got his just desert wioth the maerciles criticism he got from Moriarty.

Cue half a decade afterwards, and Jay Jay is now a powerhouse, a self-anointed genious to TV. And he learned how to play AICN and other critics to serve his game. He learned the art of media manipulation. And he knows a lot of backstage deal making. and nowdays, the very shit he tried to pull for Superman and for which he was justly berated, he's being praised for Star Trek. Yeah, right! This is not bullshit at all, no sir!!! What i find hillarious is how everybody now is kissing his ass on somebody who is more of a media sensation then anything else, an arch-manipulator, and who can sucessfully buy off a whole website like AICN for his biding. i bet Jay Jay promised a whole world of favours and oportunities for the AICN crew. It is also obvious that he will not be good on his word, after all the dust settles. AICN is bneing played for fools, and they are eating it all up unquestionably. This has happened before with AICN, with Bay and Jerry Bruckheimer, and yet they haven't yet learned the lesson. Unbelievable!
'In The Pale Moonlight' is not only
by Darth_Tarantino
May 6th, 2009
01:22:52 PM
one of the best DS9 episodes - it's one of the best Trek episodes ever. Anything with Garrak in is worth watching really. DS9 was underated - showed a new side to the Trek universe and also developed characters like no other series did. They felt real and you watched them grow and evolve as people. Not so much of that in the other Trek shows.
BringingSexyBack
by AsimovLives
May 6th, 2009
01:23:35 PM
Bale woulçd never bless this crap. This is the work of a devil, aka, Jay Jay. The Bale would never apprve of this, and if you think otherwise, you are not a true faithful of Bale. Shame on you.
BojTrek: Here's what I'm looking forward to finding out...
by Royston Lodge
May 6th, 2009
01:24:34 PM
(and don't spoil it for me by explaining how they do it. I wanna see for myself.)

If there are more movies in pre-production that take place in this "alternate timeline", doesn't that mean that old-Spock has ultimately FAILED in his mission to repair Nero's damage? Or does it mean that Spock has figured out a way to convert an "alternate timeline" into an "alternate universe"?

Or, did the writers fuck up and it actually ends up making no sense...

TOS and TNG were, for me,
by Darth_Tarantino
May 6th, 2009
01:24:35 PM
just awesome 'adventure of the week' shows. And TNG two-parters kicked arse. But DS9 always wins out on storyline and characterisation for me. That being said, Wrath of Khan is unbeatable in terms of Trek movies :D
BALE WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS
by BringingSexyBack
May 6th, 2009
01:29:37 PM
Ours is not to ask why.
AsimovLives: I have an alternate theory.
by Royston Lodge
May 6th, 2009
01:30:48 PM
Star Trek has languished with poor writing for some time (I say going back to Voyager, though others include DS9. I leave that debate for another day.)

As such, allowing J.J. to come in and play around with stuff is acceptable because it's generally recognized that Trek needs something to give it a shot in the arm.

Superman, on the other hand, is old enough that it has reached the level of mythology. To fuck around with Superman too much is to violate something primal in the American cultural consciousness.

It would be like if the Walt Disney Company tried to "reboot" Mickey Mouse. It would just ... be ... wrong.

Trek, for all it's fans, it not at nearly the same level of cultural significance as Superman.

Theory #2:

Maybe JJ's Superman script did suck, and JJ'S Star Trek doesn't.

^ HEATHEN
by BringingSexyBack
May 6th, 2009
01:31:26 PM
LOST. TALKBACK. NOW.
by MrSentinel
May 6th, 2009
01:35:31 PM
Cap'n Jack complaining about spoilers?
by Dapper Swindler
May 6th, 2009
01:36:28 PM
That's like Hitler complaining about the mistreatment of Jews.
DS9 is the best ST.
by clonekiller
May 6th, 2009
01:36:38 PM
Though the first couple of seasons are pretty slow, by the end of season 3 this show had pretty strong legs. Seasons 4-7 are the strongest ST ever produced and are still very culturally relevant today. Maybe even more so. Everything that made BSG great was litmus tested in DS9. I recently watched all seven seasons with my wife, and enjoyed them as much as when they were new. I miss this show more than any other TV show I've ever seen, but the show ended so well, you never really needed more. Though I still had to read the follow-up novels. I get tears every time I hear the song "The Way You Look Tonight". I know he was a small character, but I loved Vic Fontaine.
HOW DARE YOU ASSAULT MY EARS WITH SUCH BLASPHEMY?!!
by BringingSexyBack
May 6th, 2009
01:36:43 PM
I pray He has mercy on your soul.
Darth_Tarantino: Judging Trek.
by Royston Lodge
May 6th, 2009
01:38:05 PM
I agree wholeheartedly when it comes to DS9, but I the constant love for Wrath of Khan often seems overblown, IMHO.

Don't get me wrong, Wrath of Khan rocks.

But Search for Spock also rocks, AND Robin Curtis is a WAAAAY better Vulcan than Kirsty Alley. Kirsty's version of Saavik comes "this close" to ruining the movie for me.

On the other hand, Search for Spock suffers from a slow, lagging third act.

They both have their problems.

Furthermore, my all-time favourite so far is STILL The Undiscovered Country. Like #2 and #3, it has its faults. But I can watch #6 endlessly without complaint, while the faults in #2 and #3 jump out at me these days after multiple viewings.

Deadpool film??? a spinoff of a spinoff?
by Six Demon Bag
May 6th, 2009
01:38:34 PM
sat. ur. rate. d. fox sure does know how to kill stuff. remember when the animated series was dragging around in limbo hell? in the early 90s when nobody gave a shit about comics? WTF?
Another problem with Wrath of Khan...
by Royston Lodge
May 6th, 2009
01:41:20 PM
... is the way they recycled special effects shots from the first movie. It's really jarring. I assume that when Wrath of Khan first came out it wasn't a problem since so few people actually SAW the first movie. On DVD though, it REALLY hurts suspension-of-disbelief.
Royston
by Six Demon Bag
May 6th, 2009
01:42:57 PM
they assumed correctly that people fell asleep in the first film and decided to recycle the effects. duh!
The NEXT STAR TREK MOVIE should be...
by JeffManSixtyFo
May 6th, 2009
01:43:24 PM
For me the next logical choice for a follow up is to show the end of the 5 year mission and how they deal with it.
Royston
by Six Demon Bag
May 6th, 2009
01:43:58 PM
catrall>alley>curtis
Royston... Man...
by BojTrek
May 6th, 2009
01:45:13 PM
I really wish I could discuss it with you... it will all make sense at the end of the movie. I wish Harry or Capone would start a Star Trek Talkback thread.
STAR TREK AT 100% ON AICN.COM
by BringingSexyBack
May 6th, 2009
01:48:20 PM
Looking good!!!
Six Demon Bag
by Royston Lodge
May 6th, 2009
01:49:43 PM
Alley's better than Curtis?! Are you high?

I can bring myself to permit a debate on the comparitive merits of Cattrall/Valeris vs. Curtis/Saavik. I say Saavik beats Valeris, but I can at least allow for a debate.

But to rank Alley's Saavik over Curtis'?! That's madness!! MADNESS I SAY!!!

Where is the Lost TB?!!!
by Dhaemon
May 6th, 2009
01:51:58 PM
Don't make me call Smokie
ASSHATLives
by DrMorbius
May 6th, 2009
01:55:08 PM
Not referring to the movie or the studio, I meant YOU!!! You are a PARASITE, do I need to dumb it down even more for you? Asimov would be proud, your writing is as good as his was when he was 4!!
Where is the PENULTIMATE LOST TALKBACK!?
by turketron_2
May 6th, 2009
01:57:38 PM
Follow the Leader!

Anyway, can't wait to see this Star Trek film. I grew up watching TNG as a kid (airing on Saturday nights if I remember correctly!), and caught a few episodes of TOS whenever they'd show them super late at night. Watched a bit of the other series and some had great eps, some had very poor. Haven't really watched any Trek since that piss poor finale of Enterprise (a show I think gets shat on too much... it had at least 1 good season with the whole Xindi arc) but then we got EVIL ALIEN NAZI'S outta nowhere and the final season was hit/miss (mainly miss).

WHERE'S THE LOST TALKBACK?!?!?
by BringingSexyBack
May 6th, 2009
01:58:11 PM
I'd like to go there and post about Star Trek.
Start Trek : ULTIMATES?
by zacUpquark
May 6th, 2009
01:58:51 PM
Sounds like kinda the same premise as the Marvel "reboots"
Is this show still on?
by spankmyassyoudirtywhore
May 6th, 2009
01:59:06 PM
Sorry. I seriously hope it is everything those who eagerly awaited it want it to be. I'm in no hurry to see it as it will be out til mid-summer. It looks like a good time.
Mr Nice Gaius
by DrMorbius
May 6th, 2009
01:59:11 PM
Can't take anymor today, head about to explode, take over please.
Ok, not "start" trek ...
by zacUpquark
May 6th, 2009
01:59:22 PM
No longer 100% on RT.
by Gabba-UK
May 6th, 2009
01:59:29 PM
Armond White wins the sweepstake as first to post a negative review. But as he name checks Mission To Mars as a visionary piece of film I believe we can safely ignore it.
Well that explains seeing Romulans
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
May 6th, 2009
02:02:28 PM
because as real geeks recall the first time we see a Romulan is on Kirk's Enterprise, and everyone is shocked to see Spock's dad. Okay we're shocked to see Mark Lenard playing a Romulan, and seeing the fact that Romulans and Vulans are essentially the same race. At least they have a plausible reason for screwing with Star Trek canon unlike The Sarah Connor "oh yeah, bare Terminators can go through time" Chronicles.
ArmageddonProductions, Royston - time travel
by oisin5199
May 6th, 2009
02:07:18 PM
Again, I'd direct you to the Countdown comic. I'm not sure Spock is necessarily 'on a mission' to stop Nero - that he intentionally followed Nero to the past. They both might wind up in the past for the same reasons. It's best to not assume. Just sayin'.
Not the ANTEULTIMATE Lost talkback, mind you...
by PennsyDeux
May 6th, 2009
02:13:13 PM
;)
They need to get Chris Nolan to make a TREK movie
by YackBacker
May 6th, 2009
02:13:16 PM
I posted this idea in another TB yesterday, but I'm not giving up now, not ever. Paramount, let Nolan move in and revitalize true SCIENCE FICTION with his own psychologically complex STAR TREK movie. Kirk can talk about giving the Enterprise the Captain it deserves, Spock can hide in the Jeffries Tube like a a ninja from the League of Assassins. And McCoy can chastise Kirk for taking too many risks- but also reiterate that he'll never give up on his friend.
alternate timelines - Comic Spoilers - and Superman comparison
by oisin5199
May 6th, 2009
02:15:28 PM
My main question about the alternative timelines thing is this: with the changes, does that mean the prime Star Trek universe no longer exists? That there's nothing for Spock and Nero to go back to? Or do both timelines continue to exist as parallel universes? This will certainly determine what happens in sequels. Will we now stay in the changed universe exclusively for the foreseeable future? The Countdown comic starts off with Picard, Data, LaForge, and Worf - they witness the beginning of these events. So is there a possibility that future films will include these and other Next Gen characters? Could Sisko come back? Is a black hole like a wormhole? Since the future is changed, does Kirk still go out like a punk? Can Shat do one last appearance? I guess that's the brilliance of this concept. Anything's game.

Also, I don't think this compares to the Superman reboot. Abrams' ideas in that were really kinda dumb. And they were just a simple reworking - an Elseworlds, if you will. Whereas this seems to have a 'have your cake and eat it too' approach that somehow balances the old and the new and creates this Trek hybrid. That's very different, in my mind, from what Abrams attempted with Superman.

MNG for Mod!
by just pillow talk
May 6th, 2009
02:22:20 PM
The time for change....is now!
Thats great Capone. Cant wait to see it
by Knobules
May 6th, 2009
02:49:58 PM
I am still ticked off about that Hilton shit though. You dont get off that easy.
ALI LARTER IS OBSESSED!!!
by BringingSexyBack
May 6th, 2009
02:56:11 PM
With Star Trek!!!!
Finally, a lucid, well written review on AICN!
by andyny29
May 6th, 2009
02:59:12 PM
OT: I finally saw SPEED RACER last night
by YackBacker
May 6th, 2009
03:00:51 PM
I liked it.
YackBacker-
by Sal_Bando
May 6th, 2009
03:03:20 PM
-MONKEYS AND RACECARS YOU CANNOT BEAT IT-
cartoon
by m2298
May 6th, 2009
03:08:22 PM
http://tinyurl.com/df6st4
Sal
by YackBacker
May 6th, 2009
03:09:06 PM
It got a real bad rap by the critics. I think the Wachowski sex-change thing caused a lot of people to just decide they hated their movies. The movie was fun- and it had heart! I'm an unapologetic fan of it.
BALE DENIERS WILL RECIEVE THE "BLOOD EAGLE"
by Stuntcock Mike
May 6th, 2009
03:11:38 PM
http://tinyurl.com/d4ey8n
I'M OBSESSED!!!
by D.Vader
May 6th, 2009
03:17:16 PM
With Ali Larter.
"BLOOD EAGLE" TOO KIND FOR BALE DENIERS
by BringingSexyBack
May 6th, 2009
03:21:05 PM
But it'll do.
Ebert didn't like it.
by Lashlarue
May 6th, 2009
03:21:28 PM
2 1/2 stars...:(
STUNTCOCK - OBSESSED WAS SUPER-MEH
by BringingSexyBack
May 6th, 2009
03:22:28 PM
But I bet it would've been damned fun in a theater full of black people.
The effects are good but ILM's creator kills smaller creator...
by Orionsangels
May 6th, 2009
03:34:36 PM
is getting tired. In Jurassic Park, the T-Rex clamps down on a raptor and it goes limp, then the T-rex throws it against something, that was fine in 93, but now the bigger snow creature does the samething to the smaller snow creature, clamp down and throw and it looks cheap. Why couldn't the bigger creature just eat the smaller creature, why throw it? Is ILM using the same tired software from 15 years ago?
I could see how Ebert's review is on point
by YackBacker
May 6th, 2009
03:35:33 PM
STAR TREK is a work by Abrams, Orci and Kurtzman- these are not the most intellectual people in the business. They're good at making entertainment. My biggest gripe with the concept of this new movie was that it decided to go the typical villain route. I'll probably still enjoy the heck out of the spectacle, but STAR TREK could use some intelligence for the next outing, I'm certain.
oh snap! creature kills smaller creature, not creator!
by Orionsangels
May 6th, 2009
03:35:44 PM
see how upset this has me, i messed up.
Yeah... no TNG?
by daggor
May 6th, 2009
03:36:51 PM
I dunno... I'm sure this film is good at this point, but I'd rather watch "Time's Arrow" than be assured this new Kirk has a raging hard-on.
NEEDS MORE BORG
by BringingSexyBack
May 6th, 2009
03:39:52 PM
Borg makes everything great.
Yet Travers gives it 3.5 out of 4 stars
by YackBacker
May 6th, 2009
03:42:54 PM
So, it really depends on your mood.
Hey, it's in IMAX in my town after all.
by Royston Lodge
May 6th, 2009
03:43:19 PM
Now, do I want to brave the line-ups after work?
MEGAN FOX UPDATE
by BringingSexyBack
May 6th, 2009
03:46:48 PM
LOS ANGELES, Calif. -- Megan Fox has been called "Earth's Hottest Girl" and the actress' heat will only continue to rise with the release of this summer's "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen," which she promises will have "twice the budget, twice the explosives, and twice the robots and fight sequences. It's a big, huge movie!"

But the actress' movies might be the third most talked about thing when it comes to Megan's life - right behind her dating life and her body.

In an interview in ELLE magazine's June issue, the young actress revealed how her much talked about relationship with Brian Austin Green began.

She first met Brian on the set of "Hope & Faith," saying he seemed "sweet and quiet, harmless. I was like, 'Oh my God, I have to be with you."

At the time Brian was 30, while Megan was just 18 years old.

"I had to convince him that I was slightly more responsible and well-spoken and had other things to bring to the table besides being 18," she told the mag.

IMAX WILL MAGNIFY CHRIS PINE'S HARD-ON
by BringingSexyBack
May 6th, 2009
03:49:27 PM
Good luck with that.
Good thing it isn't in 3D then!
by Royston Lodge
May 6th, 2009
04:02:45 PM
'nuff said.
BSB. It was just plain hot garbage.
by Stuntcock Mike
May 6th, 2009
04:04:23 PM
Looking forward to watching Megan Fox trying to hide his/her raging pre-op cock bulge in Tranny 2: Revenge of the Failed Tape-Back.
Greenwood's a top notch professional. As is Bana.
by Stuntcock Mike
May 6th, 2009
04:07:15 PM
Kirk goes Bale against four chaps in a bar fight. This Trek thing has the makings of Good.
It's getting hard
by Aragorn II
May 6th, 2009
04:08:57 PM
to not read these plot synopses. Only about thirty hours to go!
TurdontheRun
by AsimovLives
May 6th, 2009
04:10:45 PM
Have you considered the hypothesis that The Bale is bombing Terminator on porpose, so that his Batman will go unchanllegend into the path of comeplete awesomeness?
DrMorbius
by AsimovLives
May 6th, 2009
04:12:42 PM
If you have a problem with me, stuck your middle finger in your ass and go sing "Marry Had A Little Lamb". Thank you very much.
JJ_DICKNOSE
by AsimovLives
May 6th, 2009
04:16:14 PM
Jay Jay created retardness of the kind that uncritical slack jawed geeks like to follow blindly.
Not a Star Trek fan
by Philvis
May 6th, 2009
04:21:59 PM
I'm not a Star Trek fan, but plan on seeing this movie. Between the reviews and the trailers it looks pretty solid. I've seen some episodes of Star Trek here and there over the years, but it never fully enticed me. I saw the first 4 or 5 movies and they were entertaining enough, but this movie looks like it has a different feel, so I look forward to seeing it sometime in the next couple weeks. The Star Trek nod on Fringe last night was pretty funny...
Megan Fox: "I had other things to bring to the table besides bei
by YackBacker
May 6th, 2009
04:22:10 PM
What a dirty, wonderful piece of ass.
Argh, the full quote from Megan (via BSB)
by YackBacker
May 6th, 2009
04:22:51 PM
"I had to convince him that I was slightly more responsible and well-spoken and had other things to bring to the table besides being 18."

I love that girl.

YackBacker
by AsimovLives
May 6th, 2009
04:27:49 PM
You mean, like, being very good at doing blow jobs?
Jay Jay Abams is like a savant...
by AsimovLives
May 6th, 2009
04:32:19 PM
... which everybody mistakes for a genious. He's like Peter Sellars character from Being There whose retard platitudes are turned into movies and msot people eat it up because they are so dazzled by the savant's idioticy they mistake that bullshit for something that's not. People like Jay Jay and his ass-slaves BOB Orci and Alex Klutzman are some of the wrost thing to ever happen to genre movies, and they are resonsible for the progressive dumbification and destruction of modern american mainstream cinema, one movie at a time. Thank goodness for Christopher Nolan and some few like him who still take all this stuff seriously and still try to deliever the goods.
More Hype Than.....The Watchmen?
by jaysin420
May 6th, 2009
04:36:06 PM
Is it possible this will be just as terrible?
There was hype for Watchmen?
by lockesbrokenleg
May 6th, 2009
04:43:43 PM
That movie was crap from the word go.
Before tonight is done...
by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester
May 6th, 2009
04:51:23 PM
JJ Abrams will drown in the glorious blue Andorian blood that is Andorian blood. Or something. Anyway, Abrams, stop bothering everybody, you tool!
Read Roger Ebert's
by That_Is_All
May 6th, 2009
04:55:39 PM
Review. That Is All
Also
by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester
May 6th, 2009
05:11:07 PM
A brief quote from my lunch today, where a bunch of my friends discussed this movie. Friend #1: You really should see it. It's just incredible. Friend #2: Oh, I. don't. give. a. SHIT! And for the first time in many years as a Trek fan, I'd have to agree with the later rather then the former. I was more excited for Nemesis. NEMESIS, I tell you! My interest in this franchise is GONE! (Shatner-like scream) GOOOOONNNNEE!
"Oh my God, I have to be with you."
by BringingSexyBack
May 6th, 2009
05:17:41 PM
That's what I said the first time I saw a Talkback.
THIS IS ROBERTO ORCI'S VISION
by BringingSexyBack
May 6th, 2009
05:22:27 PM
JJ is merely the tool he used to fulfill it.
ROGER EBERT IS NOT THE TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC
by BringingSexyBack
May 6th, 2009
05:27:59 PM
Everyone else is.
Ebert
by Steven_Spielbergs_Dickblood
May 6th, 2009
05:29:45 PM
Dont worry about Ebert review. Depends on how much butter he gets in his popcorn. The more butter, the more stars. Hmmm. Is it wrong to make Ebert fat jokes these days? I love the guy but i love fat jokes too. I feel conflicted.
in IMAX
by Steven_Spielbergs_Dickblood
May 6th, 2009
05:30:42 PM
I wanna see this in IMAX. Does JJ.Abrams really have a dick nose? Do you think he gets nose jobs? Bareback nose jobs? Get it? GET IT????
WATCHMEN WAS A MASTERPIECE
by BringingSexyBack
May 6th, 2009
05:31:47 PM
Why do people insist on talking out of asses?
J.J.Abrams is a Spielberg wannabe
by Steven_Spielbergs_Dickblood
May 6th, 2009
05:32:42 PM
Seriously, he is. But even a Spielberg wannabe who is functioning at Half-Ass, is still pretty good these days, considering Spielberg himself is not really Spielberg anymore. What happened to that guy? I watched KOTCS again on blu-ray 2 days ago...it has its moments, but overall it feels like a PRODUCT -- not a movie. Does that make sense guys? BRB, dick is bleeding again.

by Steven_Spielbergs_Dickblood
May 6th, 2009
05:36:49 PM
WATCHMEN was 'ok'....nobody wants to see a blue dong in IMAX. That's all there is to it. And nobody wants to see someone fucking in spaceship hanging over a city line. It was kinda dumb. BTW, just so you fucktards know, there was NO HYPE FOR WATCHMEN -- only on these websites that populated by geeks who live in another fuckin world. Blessed are you geeks, for once in a while only does Steven Spielberg's Dickblood descend upon you to give you a taste of reality. WATCHMEN WAS NOT A PHENOMENON - it was a film that came, went, and will disappear. When blu-rays are upgraded to WOWZEE-HOLODISCS in 2016, nobody will want to re-release Watchmen. But fat-ass Lucas will put out the Star Wars trilogy - in Jew-O-Vision no less - with extras and whistles and holograms that only the technology of WOWZEE-HOLODISCS could accomodate. (Quote from Lucas:"The technology wasnt there before..now it is...). And who will invent WOWZEE-HOLODISCS? Lucasfilm of course. Ps. The first film in Jew-O-Vision will be the first Tintin. Pps. BRB, dick bleeding again.
read this AICN
by Steven_Spielbergs_Dickblood
May 6th, 2009
05:37:39 PM
WATCHMEN was 'ok'....nobody wants to see a blue dong in IMAX. That's all there is to it. And nobody wants to see someone fucking in spaceship hanging over a city line. It was kinda dumb. BTW, just so you fucktards know, there was NO HYPE FOR WATCHMEN -- only on these websites that populated by geeks who live in another fuckin world. Blessed are you geeks, for once in a while only does Steven Spielberg's Dickblood descend upon you to give you a taste of reality. WATCHMEN WAS NOT A PHENOMENON - it was a film that came, went, and will disappear. When blu-rays are upgraded to WOWZEE-HOLODISCS in 2016, nobody will want to re-release Watchmen. But fat-ass Lucas will put out the Star Wars trilogy - in Jew-O-Vision no less - with extras and whistles and holograms that only the technology of WOWZEE-HOLODISCS could accomodate. (Quote from Lucas:"The technology wasnt there before..now it is...). And who will invent WOWZEE-HOLODISCS? Lucasfilm of course. Ps. The first film in Jew-O-Vision will be the first Tintin. Pps. BRB, dick bleeding again.
my shrine to trek is complete!!
by Six Demon Bag
May 6th, 2009
05:38:41 PM
http://www.txmma.com/modules.p hp?name=Forums&file=viewtopic& p=137402#137402
my shrine to trek is complete!!!
by Six Demon Bag
May 6th, 2009
05:40:34 PM
www.txmma.com/modules.php?name =Forums&file=viewtopic& p=137402#137402
Six Demon bag
by Steven_Spielbergs_Dickblood
May 6th, 2009
05:42:06 PM
Martial arts is for pussies.
shrine to trek is complete...awesome tat!!
by Six Demon Bag
May 6th, 2009
05:46:54 PM
www.txmma.com/modules.php?name =Forums&file=viewtopic&p=13740 2#137402
spielberg
by Six Demon Bag
May 6th, 2009
05:47:47 PM
get rid of the spaces in the link and i show you a pussy
Six Demon Bag
by Steven_Spielbergs_Dickblood
May 6th, 2009
05:56:27 PM
yes i saw it. Definitely a pussy. BRB, dick is bleeding again.
Watchmen was all right
by lockesbrokenleg
May 6th, 2009
06:09:28 PM
It was too damn long, and had too many montages. But, other than that it was average.
EW gives TREK and A-
by Six Demon Bag
May 6th, 2009
06:32:02 PM
add one more positive review..cant wait til tomorrow night
Capone, by being a Star Trek snob...
by gringostar
May 6th, 2009
06:35:47 PM
you are missing out on some decent entertainment and storytelling. ST:TNG and DS9 were great shows, Voyager had moments and Enterprise was looking promising, but it never had a chance to really get going. If you would open your mind I am certain that you would be entertained, hell you might even enjoy yourself. To avoid anything other than ST:TOS is kinda stupid.
i 2nd gringostar...mostly
by Six Demon Bag
May 6th, 2009
06:43:30 PM
yes to TNG and DS9, watched one season of voyager, passed on enterprise..gonna put enterprise on queue though
Pine walks through this film like he's packing a 12-inch stiffy
by Cruzboy
May 6th, 2009
06:49:15 PM
Yeah this line was gold! I actually cracked up out loud at work. Even more dying to see it now! Great review! :0)
why would you line up for the next gen movies...
by darthwaz1
May 6th, 2009
06:53:48 PM
If you never watched a single episode of the TV show??
The AICN JJ Abrams Bukkake Party continues!
by Riley Martin
May 6th, 2009
06:56:21 PM
*jerk jerk* oh fuck yeah JJ I'm gonna cum all over that pretty man face of yours......oh god you're film is so fucking good.....fuck....much better than that WOLVERINE piece of shit that we didn't get invited to.....AAAGGHHHHHHH YEAHHHH TAKE IT YOU GENIUS BITCH!!!! RUB IT INTO YOUR FACE!
Everybody but Ebert likes it
by Nem_Wan
May 6th, 2009
07:06:08 PM
What's the Ebert difference? Is he smarter? That he would spend most of his review criticizing 40-year-old conceits applicable to every version of Star Trek tells me this particular movie didn't give him anything new to think about.
Ebert didn't like it...
by m.dung
May 6th, 2009
07:09:03 PM
My guess is I'll give it 4.5 stars. Taking the day off and seeing it at an upsale theatre that serves booze. Cheers!
ebert didnt like Brown Bunny either
by Six Demon Bag
May 6th, 2009
07:12:17 PM
fuckem
Ebert's anomaly
by AzulTool
May 6th, 2009
07:14:28 PM
When they tried to beam him back down to Planet Chicago, there was a problem, and he arrived with the bottom part of his head missing. So, all things considered, you can see why he might not be too enthused about Star Trek.
sick of people complaining about AICN loving the film too much
by Six Demon Bag
May 6th, 2009
07:15:23 PM
editors of the site are co-workers and friends who probably like the same things...Star trek being one of them. When Abrams hits it outta the park, they are gonna be happy. Wolverine did not, they tell you it sucks. shut the fuck up haters. this is their site, let them do as they please.
This time tomorrow night
by skydemon
May 6th, 2009
07:18:16 PM
I'm going to be enjoying myself some damn fine Star Trek. Welcome back Trek, welcome back.
go rockets!!!
by Six Demon Bag
May 6th, 2009
07:21:32 PM
to bad game will be over at 6 am
Even Roeper liked it!
by lockesbrokenleg
May 6th, 2009
07:30:39 PM
And he usually hates everything. He's the Mickey of film critics.
As much as I respect Ebert...
by Rain_Dog
May 6th, 2009
07:33:17 PM
His review seems pretty wide of the mark to me. He seems to take umbrage with the new Star Trek primarily because it deviates from the original series, but then levels a series of criticisms at it that all apply to previous iterations of the show. I think he's fallen victim here to a kind of reviewing he normally dislikes - that is, criticising a movie because of what it isn't, instead of what it is.
Ebert's a cunt.
by Cruzboy
May 6th, 2009
07:40:13 PM
And obiously too old school for this film. He's talking about Arthur C. Clarke and shit. A different kind of sci-fi. And old people can't deal with the kinetic action they we younger people crave. I blame it on ecstasy. :0)
The reviews
by Toonol
May 6th, 2009
07:40:54 PM
They all wrote reviews because it's a big summer genre movie

They all wrote positive reviews because they all liked it.

What do you all you talkbackers that are bitching about the reviews want to change about that equation?

I think Fez should play Khan in the next one
by Lucky_Strike
May 6th, 2009
07:42:06 PM
He's due for a breakout role.
AsshatLives
by DrMorbius
May 6th, 2009
07:51:33 PM
Stick my finger in my ass. Okay, but hurry over because YOU are my ASS. In fact You are everyones ASS. Oh, and before I can stick my finger in your ass, tell your dad to pull his dick out FIRST!
PROFESSIONALS!!!
by BringingSexyBack
May 6th, 2009
08:08:50 PM
What is your profession?!?!?
What happened with Ebert
by Miyamoto_Musashi
May 6th, 2009
08:19:14 PM
The reviewers I usually trust, Ebert, travers and David and Margaret from at the movies (australian show), all except Ebert really enjoyed it.
WE SHOULDN'TAKE FUN OF SOMEONE WHOSE NOSE LOOKS LIKE A DICK
by BringingSexyBack
May 6th, 2009
08:24:23 PM
Should we?
just come back from seeing it.....
by Gabba-UK
May 6th, 2009
08:42:38 PM
HOLY FUCKING A!!!!!! This is one geek that's about to go sleep with a big shit eating grin of his face!!
This is NOT Star Trek..!
by CeejayNightwing
May 6th, 2009
09:31:01 PM
It's a contrived retread of a 60's sho that as deliverd the way the studios wanted, NOT the way the creator intended. ST:TNG is the ONLY show that managed to get the formula he wanted 100% right and that's hy nobody ho hasn't watched from season 3 onwards of ST:TNG will ever have a clue what Trek is, why it is or why this film is simply yet another product with "STAR TREK" stamped across the label yet doing it's own thing that has diddlysquat to do with the utopian challenge, the human progression of mind, state and technology or a basic chain of command. All they're doing is making a severly unchallenging crowd-pleasing flick filled with the basic carnal desies, none of it challenging writing of sci-fi stories based around the idology of Trek and its human progression of utopia or its command structure. All the great reviews in the world mean shit if you haven't clocked what Trek is all about and by all the reviews and the ridiculous contrived premise of this film to simply reboot an idea that doesn't need rebooting; I've realized just how many people simply want to wallow in thier childhood and foregoe the heights that ST:TNG reached by challenging the writers to deliver on Gene Roddenberrys idology and his rules when finally geting it the way he intended. DS9 was simply our level of human being thrown into a Trek tech world, it as not Star Trek and neither is this movie full of charletons and contrived reasons to force a bunch of kids into a comand structure of a starfleet without first having years of experience on other vessels and posts the way the original at least managed to deliver. Popcorn Star Trek with fries, that's hat this is, Simplistic carnal movie action flick to make an easy buck and then loose its audience every couple of years by retreading the same formula of space battles, alien aces that are entirely a threat, jokes and fist fights! Exactly the show the studios forged out of the original series and exactly the show Gene Roddenberry didn't want. Why don't people just make their own shit and stop branding it Star Trek just to make it easier to sell.
Great Heights??
by skydemon
May 6th, 2009
09:48:26 PM
Dude, the first season of TNG pure sucked! Roddenberrys namby pamby, touchy feely vision of the future is unrealistic, allbeit a very nice idea. It makes horrible storytelling; just doesn't work, like season one of TNG. Thank God we won't be seeing a weepy Troi with a line: "A feeling of great joy, and gratitude" in this movie.
you WILL however be watching Big Robots Hitting Each Other-
by Sal_Bando
May 6th, 2009
09:53:18 PM
-Once Again. You know it, I know it, Mikey Bay knows it, Ebert knows it, Abrams knows it. That's the summer franchise movie you are looking for. Accept no others.
Bullshit. TNG sucked
by criticalbliss
May 6th, 2009
10:14:04 PM
TNG did NOT get anything right--other than Data (and sometimes Worf). TOG was far superior due to character dynamic and charisma, something Picard and the rest simply lacked.

There. I said it. Search your feelings; you know it to be true.

Abrams loved SITH
by darthvedder81
May 6th, 2009
10:36:54 PM
So it doesn't surprise me the space battles and music took a page from George Lucas' best directorial triumph.
Ebert's bizarre review
by darthvedder81
May 6th, 2009
10:39:33 PM
Sometimes Ebert doesn't make any sense (and I don't blame that on his illness--he's always been that way). He actually praised a number of aspects of Trek and he usually loves all things "space opera." To hear him use that word derogatorily was odd.
I agree with you, Dicknose!
by TheWrathOfSean
May 6th, 2009
10:39:44 PM
I was thinking the same thing about the score. Also, there's something really familiar and Trek-like about the leitmotif, almost like they took a phrase from the Wrath of Kahn theme or something.
Got to jump on the bandwagon and say it as well...
by TheMarineBiologist
May 6th, 2009
11:20:04 PM
We TB-ers do a lot of shitting on the reviews here on AICN, so much so that the reviewers usually just write us all off as stereotypical, mean, spiteful TB-ers.

Let me just show that we do indeed reward good writing with compliments and accolades.

Great review, Capone. Nicely done.

The trek away from the purists...
by Sithtastic
May 6th, 2009
11:22:54 PM
dare I dream the impossible dream? Will we yet be able to enjoy a revamping of classic pop culture without the baggage of the purists? I say this only joking because I can't decide which is worse: the anticipation of a gay for JJ AICN or the overburdensome nitpick fiesta of the Trek purists. Is it just too much to ask for something new in Star Trek with the orginal archetypes intact? I'll settle for that and yes, if its "popcorn" as it were, then I won't be disappointed.
Cockleberry: Damn Right on "The Visitor"
by Admiral Nelson
May 6th, 2009
11:42:53 PM
I was never a big DS9 fan, but goddamn, the end of "The Visitor" just destroyed me. Tony Todd was fantastic in that episode, and the scene where Avery Brooks hugs him and says, "my poor little boy..." Well, I just lost it. It's the single most emotionally moving hour of "Trek" ever produced, hands down.
Rockets vs Lakers
by Cruzboy
May 7th, 2009
12:20:27 AM
Go Rock - oh, shit! :0(
Thursday Night
by OQuaTanginWann
May 7th, 2009
01:15:08 AM
What's with the showings on Thursday night way before midnight? Outside of DC they are showing starting around 8 or 9 PM?

Are they going for a worldwide zulu time release?

Thursday Night 7PM Now
by OQuaTanginWann
May 7th, 2009
01:20:51 AM
Earlier this week they were listing the earliest show as around 8. Now it's 7PM. I guess my zulu time theory is right.

Now the real question is, can a guy take his 5-year-old daughter to see Star Trek on a school night...

My wife has expressed no interest (shocker.)
Watchmen was a masterpiece...
by AsimovLives
May 7th, 2009
02:16:17 AM
... of underwhelming. Never so much hype ado was made about nothing. Until Jay Jay Star Trek came along.
Jay Jay Abrams came to AICN...
by AsimovLives
May 7th, 2009
02:21:56 AM
... and he screamed: "All your asses are belong to ME!!!". And he made it so.
AICN sold itself to Jay Jay...
by AsimovLives
May 7th, 2009
02:22:34 AM
... on a discount.
Sal_Bando
by AsimovLives
May 7th, 2009
02:24:18 AM
I prefered the other summer that had The Dark knigth and Iron Man. It was a much better summer with much, much, much better movies. That summer was professional. This summer is fucking amateur.
Capone was PAID by Paramount
by 420 Boylston St
May 7th, 2009
02:37:06 AM
I don't buy the reviews I'm reading. It's all coordinated to please AICN's current master... VIACOM!
STEPHEN!!!!
by Spartacus Hughs
May 7th, 2009
04:31:41 AM
!!!!
Wow. I stopped reading at
by Motoko Kusanagi
May 7th, 2009
05:09:39 AM
"I worshipped the original series, never watched a single episode of any of the follow-up series".

Big mistake, pal. TNG and DS9 pwn everything.

Motoko Kusanagi
by AsimovLives
May 7th, 2009
07:05:29 AM
Keep up with the Avatar stuff, man. i now realise how right you were in all your posts. You saw something that nobody had before. i comend you on your firesight. Avatar coming in December, nothign else matters. Indeed!!! Well, with the exception of Public Enemies, The Hurt Locker, Moon, Franklin and The Road. Damn, there might be some saving of this year afterall.
Star Trek: The Next Generation
by AsimovLives
May 7th, 2009
07:06:30 AM
For the creation of Captain Picard alone, TNG deserves lots of respect.
Saw it today at Imax
by Joely_Boy
May 7th, 2009
07:54:51 AM
Can't believe Old Spock turned out to be Kirk's dad! Weird.
Nah, just kidding.
by Joely_Boy
May 7th, 2009
08:00:43 AM
But I did see it at Imax... AND I WANT MY FUCKIN' MONEY BACK. Talk about a lack of plot! Everything looked good, but nothing felt right. It is a hollow, empty shell of a film. And a sad day for science-fiction.
At least the Phantom Menace
by Joely_Boy
May 7th, 2009
08:05:06 AM
had Darth Maul and the greatest swordfight of all time. I can't remember anything that stood out in this film... except the Cordrazine reference, but that was barely audible!
I don't think J.J. Abrams
by Joely_Boy
May 7th, 2009
08:10:49 AM
understands the meaning of the word "dynamics."
Hey, who am I talkin' to?
by Joely_Boy
May 7th, 2009
08:12:33 AM
I'm goin' to bed.
What a triumph
by Lord_Flasheart
May 7th, 2009
08:48:33 AM
this film is. Just got back from it and it surpassed my already high expectations. Almost everything about the film was adequate at worst, and near perfect at best. Accepting that the previous films didn't have the budgets or effects that this one did and so could never compete visually with this one, this film nevertheless establishes itself, like Casino Royale, as the new standard against which all past and future efforts must be compared. That said, is it better than Wrath of Khan? No. But it comes closer than any other.
Joely_Boy
by Aquatarkusman
May 7th, 2009
09:31:58 AM
Great Larry Burns reference! In related news, Orcurtzman wishes they could write a line like "This guy's got more bread than a prison meatloaf!"
Damn straight, my man, damn straight.
by Joely_Boy
May 7th, 2009
10:18:07 AM

by Joely_Boy
May 7th, 2009
10:22:12 AM
My life is fallin' apart like a chinese motorcycle!

by Joely_Boy
May 7th, 2009
10:23:08 AM
This place is emptier than a Scottish pay-toilet!
What does the Enterprise and toilet paper...
by allykatD
May 7th, 2009
10:46:56 AM
have in common?

They fly around Uranus wiping out Klingons.

I had to say that. With Star Trek coming up, that joke has been making the rounds again so I had to pass it on.

Oh, and I'm seeing it this friday and looking forward to it. I'm not a Star Trek fan by any means, but this looks entertaining.

One Hour Ago,
by Aquatarkusman
May 7th, 2009
01:08:37 PM
The site was freezing because of problems connecting with the sideshowtoy.com server. An apt metaphor, especially in light of the Star Trek toy post. I'm no McG fan, but it will be good to at least have something else covered in two weeks' time.
WTF? Wait for it to come out bitches!
by Eyegore
May 7th, 2009
02:02:13 PM
Whats with all the fucking reviews? I'm sick of NOT READING REVIEWS of a movie that isn't coming out for another two weeks. FUCK YOU REVIEWERS! FUCK YOU IN THE ASS!
Doh! It's out already!
by Eyegore
May 7th, 2009
02:53:22 PM
Fuck me! I gotta get to the movies! I thought it wasn't coming out till May 21
1979
by alcester
May 7th, 2009
09:55:28 PM
ST-TMP was the best. This one sounds like a movie for teenagers.
Why can't people just have fun at the movies?
by unclebusu
May 8th, 2009
10:10:37 AM
Seriously guys. Fucking let go and have fun for once. http://drivein77.typepad.com/d rivein77/
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