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REAPER Reaped?? CHUCK Chucked?? We’re A Month From The Network Upfronts!! To Which Side Of The Bubble Is Your Fave Sliding??

heh, Cupid by punto	Apr 20th, 2009 01:53:22 AM
it's not "cancelled", they're just postponing season 3 for another 10 years. with different actors. Kings is cool, and it seemed to be a packaged deal for the ~13 episodes or whatever.. I hope it stays on tho.
TSCC by dynamicb	Apr 20th, 2009 02:00:26 AM
I still can't believe that it is not even 50/50 with all of the fan uproar. Fox really needs to reconsider.
TSCC, Reaper, Dollhouse. by gotilk	Apr 20th, 2009 02:04:48 AM
They must survive. Make the right choices, or a Doll, the devil and Skynet will come for you. Ungh. I had forgotten about the primetime Leno mess. It's kind of messed up, but I really hope he fails. It's not just about him, it's about drama and content for grown-ups in the 10pm hour.
If Kings and TSCC are back, I'll be okay. by Johnny Smith	Apr 20th, 2009 02:05:56 AM
Dollhouse would have to improve to classic Whedon standards in order to make me really passionate. But really, more people should be watching Kings. It's the best show on TV right now not called Supernatural.
Chuck is terrible by lockesbrokenleg	Apr 20th, 2009 02:06:58 AM
Really. Who watches that shit? It's the same damn show every week. Chuck screws up. Some fights. Some jokes. That's it.
SMALLVILLE is gonna return, just FYI by Mike_D	Apr 20th, 2009 02:08:11 AM
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So basically all the best shows are toast by photoboy	Apr 20th, 2009 02:15:02 AM
TSCC, Reaper, Chuck and Dollhouse are basically my favourite shows at the moment so next season I can see I'm going to have plenty of extra time on my hands. Oh and Castle has grown on me a bit, mainly because Fillion and Katic are very good.
Um, yeah, they canned My Own Worst Enemy. by Shermdawg	Apr 20th, 2009 02:16:49 AM
I quit watching when I heard the news. Shame too, I liked it.
Nielson ratings are out of date.. by CeejayNightwing	Apr 20th, 2009 02:34:06 AM
So when these networks measure up who they think are watching these shows it just doesn't include those who download or watch online for their own convenience. Every year these networks cancel shows that have a huge following and then wonder why the uproar if the viewing figures are so low? Well the figures aren't low, the viewing is simply not being measured correctly and themore they cancell shows without giving them a chance to wrap up their storylines properly, the less likely people will be to get attached to future new shows with any real commitment. That's the catch 22! Advice to any new showrunners: Make all your first seasons a one story deal just in case the very likelyhood that it gets cancelled. At least then you can have something on the shelf worth watching or buying on Home video.
I'm shocked that Dollhouse even has a 50/50 shot by Spifftacular Squirrel Girl	Apr 20th, 2009 02:36:40 AM
But I'm really pulling for it to get a second season. It'd be really too bad if Reaper doesn't make it. Especially considering that Syfy (ugh.) seems to just keep greenlighting a ton of other crap instead of picking up a good series that gets cancelled ala Firefly, Journeyman, and possibly Reaper.
Chuck is better than your mom by BewareOfDogPoo	Apr 20th, 2009 02:45:26 AM
Your mom's cooking sucks. chuck rules.
Damn Shame about Reaper and Chuck by Xiphos_2	Apr 20th, 2009 02:54:15 AM
Reaper has been good and Chuck is reliable entertainment. I would have thought that since almost everything on NBC sucks, Chuck would have had good ratings. Oh well Jay Leno and Ryan Atwood to the rescue! Well, probably not since it's NBC. Those monkey fuckers can't make a good choice to save thier lives.
Cupid 1.0 had 15 episodes... Cupid 2.0 has 7... by Prof. Pop-Cult	Apr 20th, 2009 03:10:27 AM
So the funny thing is, one could say that the original Cupid series finally get its remaining episodes to complete a full season of 22 episodes... though with different actors in the leads, and a different locale (NYC for Chicago).
I'll be Gutted if Chuck goes. by TinSpider	Apr 20th, 2009 03:10:49 AM
That's one of the most constantly entertaining shows on TV. It got a bit repetitive early this season, but since the Orion arc came in it's been great. Out of all the episodes so far there has only been a couple of duff ones.
Honestly, who is watching shows in the "likely to return" list? by Amy Chasing	Apr 20th, 2009 03:14:24 AM
Or knows anyone who watches any of those shows? Where are their ratings coming from? Is it because people download the other shows (an indication that they're not only good but popular too) while if there's nothing else on TV you just let Law & Order play? To quote Daffy Duck, "Who's responsible for this?!?"
Where's the love for Life? by Onyx390	Apr 20th, 2009 03:24:39 AM
Life is one of, if not, the best action shows on television right now. It's a damn shame that it's not getting any attention.
LIFE is great. by champvinyl	Apr 20th, 2009 03:37:25 AM
the only cop show i watch other than castle, which may also be cancelled, hooray! also, Amy Chasing the only thing off the "likely to return" list i watch is how i met your mother cuz its fuckin' hilarious. SLAP BET!
Sigh, Reaper is gelling so well right now... by DanielKurland	Apr 20th, 2009 03:55:28 AM
I don't know what it is, but the chemistry of that cast definitely raises this from an average show to a very enjoyable show. And Ray Wise's Lynch comment last week was appreciated. Really would like to see Better Off Ted remain too. What other comedies does ABC have, really?
HIMYM by tie3456	Apr 20th, 2009 04:16:28 AM
Glad to see How I Met Your Mother on the "Likely to Return" list this year instead of the 50/50 list where it usually is.
CHUCK (best show on TV) finally gets mentioned on AICN by Razorback	Apr 20th, 2009 04:18:07 AM
And it is to discuss its 50/50 status. Amazing. The one show on TV that actually mixes tons of geek references, with comedy, spy coolness, and hot chicks, gets NO PLAY on this site. I have high hope that it will return. The critics (well, not AICN critics, since they only follow crap like HEROES) love it, and so do NBC and WB.
HIMYM deserves to be where it is... by DanielKurland	Apr 20th, 2009 04:18:50 AM
It really, really does.
Chuck will never be amazing TV by Miyamoto_Musashi	Apr 20th, 2009 04:20:13 AM
i.e. Lost and Dexter, but damn its entertaining and it knows it audience. TSCC needs to be a 12-13 epsiode season on cable.
Further to my Chuck comments by Miyamoto_Musashi	Apr 20th, 2009 04:24:21 AM
The girl who plays Sarah (Australian and happy about that), is amazingly hot. In recent times always preferred dark hair girls (mostly Asian), but "Sarah" is great eye candy.
What about southland? by Cotton McKnight	Apr 20th, 2009 04:41:06 AM
Boy is that show awful. I mean beyond bad.
HIMYM : So what IS the difference between jam and penut butter? by V'Shael	Apr 20th, 2009 04:47:48 AM

Yeah, I think it's safe to say Reaper by The McPoyle Clan	Apr 20th, 2009 05:14:37 AM
has been sucked back to hell in a vessel. When the showrunners and a main character jump ship to other shows, the signs are not good. I've enjoyed Chuck from the start, but moving from the mission-of-the-week to the Orion arc has upped the game.
the only reason you guys like chuck by champvinyl	Apr 20th, 2009 05:18:53 AM
is because the main character is a geek working at an electronics store, there are hot chicks who for some reason actually like the nerd, and it has adam baldwin from firefly.. But the writing and production are awful, its the same thing every week... . I can understand why alot of you don't want it to be cancelled but quality TV it isn't. The show about a half step above knight-rider, same style, better characters.... and y'know, not a giant ad campaign for ford.
THE UNIT unlikely? Goddammit! by TheSeeker7	Apr 20th, 2009 05:40:45 AM
That really pisses me off. THE UNIT is infinitely better than 24. I like to joke to people (though in my head I'm not really joking) is that THE UNIT is like 24 but for smart people. C'mon, 24 always relies on soap opera-ish, WAY convoluted plot twists, while The Unit exists in MUCH more of a real world. Hell it's based on a book by an actual former black ops soldier, for godssake. And critics can't continue to blame it on the wives' stories always been flat out boring. For one, they're not, but even still, the action and story of the team more than makes up for the women. The Unit bites it while the likes of The Ghost Whisperer continues on. You've seriously gotta be fucking kidding me.
suprised that Medium is a 50/50 by Mr Cairo	Apr 20th, 2009 05:53:09 AM
its not flashy its not loud but its generally 45 minutes of quality story
Reaper reaped? Dollhouse housed? King kung? by newc0253	Apr 20th, 2009 05:57:38 AM
If I could save any show on the bubble right now, Dollhouse would be it. Much further down the list, I'd probably save Chuck too but I'd much prefer to save T:SCC, Reaper and Kings, all of which seem to be as good as gone. Also Medium? I'm suprised to see this on the bubble. Most of the shows I like tend to have a fairly narrow demographic but Medium is one of the few that I'd think would appeal to lots of folk. It beats me why a show as well written as Medium is struggling when they're renewing Ghost Wisperer for frak's sake.
better off ted is really damn funny. by champvinyl	Apr 20th, 2009 06:09:23 AM
I especially like the satire-heavy fake ad's they play before the actual commercials. The two lab guys are hilarious as well, the episode with the motion sensors that don't detect black people was fuckin' classic.
The Unit gets canned by rocknroll_pirate	Apr 20th, 2009 06:43:33 AM
And all most of you can complain about is CHUCK!
Scrubs had its time. by Bouncy X	Apr 20th, 2009 06:52:24 AM
as much as i love the show, 8 seasons is long enough. plus based on what i read ABC picked it up to give them a proper final season so i was already prepared for this to be the end. but pulling a ER thing by changing casts is stupid, you dont completely change a cast after 8years and expect it to be good. it had a good run and while i seem to be a minority, i've liked the whole series so just make this the end and have an actual proper finale.
Save Reaper! Save Better Off Ted! Save BSG! by chrth	Apr 20th, 2009 07:02:04 AM

Amy Chasing: We watch Numb3rs in my household by chrth	Apr 20th, 2009 07:03:10 AM
While it's not the best show on TV, it by far has the most talented cast on TV.
HIMYM: you can't peanut butter by themikejonas	Apr 20th, 2009 07:09:06 AM
your dick up someone's ass. Anyway, HIMYM Season 5 is pretty much assured--CBS just ordered the first five scripts and 20th Century Fox is motivated to give the show at least 100 episodes, since the show is already the subject of a bidding war for syndication rights.
Stupid Network Execs by Admiral Q	Apr 20th, 2009 07:11:00 AM
I don't know how they can even fairly register the ratings for The Unit this season. 90% of the time it got the whole CBS Sunday night schedule got pushed back by at least a half hour (usually more than that) by football or basketball. I had my DVR set to record it every week but unless I was watching (which meant I usually had to watch the last half of Cold Case) I wouldn't get to see it. I didn't even get to see The Unit last week because I was out of town and when I got back all that was on my DVR was (guess what) Cold Case. Big surprise that The Sarah Conner Chronicles had lower ratings, especially after they take it off for a month or more and then bring it back in the Friday night time slot of death without any real promotion of the fact. I'll be ticked of TSCC gets cancelled and they keep Dollhouse (I'm sorry but I stopped watching Dollhouse several weeks before the finale - sorry Joss). And just for the record - Chuck is awesome. a real gem of a show. If you can't see it then I feel real pity for you.
I'm really, really hoping ABC Family saves Reaper by chrth	Apr 20th, 2009 07:19:13 AM
It's one heck of a longshot, but still hoping.
Fuck, I really love Kings!!! by Judge Briggs	Apr 20th, 2009 07:22:49 AM
Kings and Conner... I hate you tv show execs... so. much.
SAVE THE UNIT!! by SkidMarkedUndies	Apr 20th, 2009 07:30:47 AM
God that show is awesome! Just pair down the cast to two regular team leaders (Haysbert and Brown) and have a rotation of red shirts to go with them on missions. Each one off would explore the guest team members story a-la Lost flashback and TA-DA! Fresh show!
TSCC Season 2 DVD sales are already nuts. by NinjaRap	Apr 20th, 2009 07:31:46 AM
I mean, just this past weekend Amazon has put season 2 up for a "pre-pre-order." It's not even a real pre-order - there's no release date yet. And yet the orders on Amazon shot it up to #8 in DVD sales over the weekend (it's since fallen to #18 on top DVD sales - still pretty damned nuts for something that isn't even really announced).
Does Fox distribute the Unit? by SkidMarkedUndies	Apr 20th, 2009 07:32:38 AM
Because if it does, I can't think of a better lead in to 24 than the former David Palmer's cracker!
REAPER RULES. PLEASE DON'T CANCEL by Halloween68	Apr 20th, 2009 07:35:32 AM
This is one of the few things Kevin Smith is involved with I actually like. Though I did like ZACK & MIRA MAKE A PORNO.
HIMYM by Canuck815	Apr 20th, 2009 07:46:25 AM
Agreed that it's finally nice seeing it on the Likely list. At universities up here this show has achieved a big cult status in the last three or four months alone.
The Unit and Numb3rs are good as well... by champvinyl	Apr 20th, 2009 07:51:18 AM
theres a severe gap between good tv and bad tv now... its at the point that ratings don't even matter its really obvious what's shit and what isn't. i can't understand how there are three different law and order shows, and three different versions of CSI on TV at the same time, it's beyond retarded... (what, one show with people solving crimes forensically wasn't enough? you need it set in different american cities so you "Identify" with it!?!?? DURRRR OKAY!). Basically half of the people influential in programming on the major networks need to have pink slips rammed down their throats because they wouldn't know good TV from a midget humping their ears and teabagging their eyes..
and seriously theres a huge disparity there.. by champvinyl	Apr 20th, 2009 07:52:48 AM
how could they not notice... Fuckin perv's.
Save Summer Glau!!!!!!! by The Outlander	Apr 20th, 2009 07:58:12 AM
As long as I get to watch Summer Glau tackle another twisted and disturbing role I'll be happy. More Dollhouse will also make me happy.
Really Disappointed With Kings by Crow3711	Apr 20th, 2009 08:04:43 AM
Such an awesomely good show, very unique, not perfect, but worth checking out, and NBC, immortal fuckups that they are, ruined everything having to do with the show from marketing, to premiere date, to scheduled time. This show could have been really popular if they had given it Southlands slot. But nooo, gotta have a new COP SHOW. Christ. NBC is so retarded, they waste an incredible amount of money, and they didnt even give it more than 5 episodes to find an audience. Fucking bullshit. I really like Kings.
What little I've seen of Numbers I didn't like... by Amy Chasing	Apr 20th, 2009 08:19:44 AM
but I'm hardly an informed critic on that count so don't mind me. Personally I would have thought the cast of Dexter to be the most talented on TV. Or even Californication or Psych. But it's a tough call. However let me set the record straight for those shows I do know about: Chuck - I feel they know exactly what they're making with this show. They don't try and be something they're not, and what they do they do well. You could say House does the same thing every week. Or Burn Notice. Or Hustle. They are all still highly entertaining and worth your time if you like that sort of thing. Castle & Better Off Ted - We hardly knew ya and hope we get to know ya more. Fillion is great to watch in Castle, and the whole cast of Better Off Ted are helping me forget the cancellation of another show with a similar vibe to it: Pushing Daisies. Reaper - Soc(k) rocks! He, like Marmaduke from Carpoolers, could have a show all of his own. But I'd still like to find out if Sam ever gets out of his contract with the Devil. Please give us that much. Which brings me to Terminator. The show is cool. That last episode was very cool. A third season could have the potential to be extremely cool and wonderful cross-promotion opportunities with the movie. Other shows have been in far worse situations so it begs the question: why stop now?
Chuck is fun. Remember fun? by Billyeveryteen	Apr 20th, 2009 08:22:19 AM
Sure, it's turn off your brain TV, but I find it very relaxing, after the crushing weight of BSG, Lost, or TCSS. Plus Sara is cute as a button.
CASTLE is a GREAT show!! Why is it even in danger??? by ShiftyEyedDog2	Apr 20th, 2009 08:33:48 AM
I love Castle - a great match for Fillion. And the elderly women who dominate the Nielsens love procedural crime shows, so I would think this is a shoo-in for renewal!!
Chuck and Terminator need to come back... by tile_mcgillus	Apr 20th, 2009 08:34:05 AM
Are they really doing that bad?
"Likely to Return" shows I care about:1 ... In Danger: 5 by ShiftyEyedDog2	Apr 20th, 2009 08:34:39 AM
what. the. fuck.
Nathan Fillion is the reason why! by DarfurOnTheRocks	Apr 20th, 2009 08:34:46 AM
Nathan Filli,...... CANCELLED!
"Likely to Return" shows I care about:1 ... "In Danger": 5 by ShiftyEyedDog2	Apr 20th, 2009 08:34:48 AM
what. the. fuck.
At Least Cancel ONE of the CSIs and Law and Orders by DarfurOnTheRocks	Apr 20th, 2009 08:36:01 AM
....Please....
Cancel Capricka by DarfurOnTheRocks	Apr 20th, 2009 08:36:36 AM

Chuck/Better Off Ted/TSCC should remain by happybunni	Apr 20th, 2009 08:37:37 AM
I like Reaper, it's good entertainment once in awhile but wouldn't miss it. Chuck is an amazing show, Better Off Ted is full of big laughs, and TCSS is awesome.
Chuck is Cool..... Why is this even on the chopping block?! by DarfurOnTheRocks	Apr 20th, 2009 08:37:45 AM

Cancel Karen Sisco by DarfurOnTheRocks	Apr 20th, 2009 08:38:51 AM
Do it.... Do it now!
KEEP CASTLE! by dead youngling	Apr 20th, 2009 08:40:48 AM
Must have my Fillion fill!
KINGS Certainly Cancelled by ThusSpakeSpymunk	Apr 20th, 2009 08:45:17 AM
The studio spent so much time and effort advertising KINGS, and actually expressed shock that it didn't do well. Um, look at what it was ABOUT. Of COURSE, it didn't do well. It did so poorly, in fact, that they didn't even bother showing more than, what was it, one or two episodes before canning it?
really cool to see some love for THE UNIT by TheSeeker7	Apr 20th, 2009 08:50:00 AM
It seems like in general I don't see much chatter around online by people who are into it as much as I am. But in a way I'm sorta prepared for this, I mean if memory serves it's been "on the bubble" for at least the last 2 years. But also good point on the 3 L&O's and 3 CSI's. Gimme a fucking break. Hell did anyone catch that awesome fucking joke a couple weeks ago on "House" poking fun at David Caruso? One of the greatest lines of the fucking series. "You deduce that while removing your sunglasses to the strains of a Who song?"
THE UNIT deserves better by Mullah Omar	Apr 20th, 2009 08:52:46 AM
Somebody is really thinking of canceling a show run by David Mamet and Shawn Ryan? Who gets a free pass if not those guys? That show beats the hell out of most of its TV peers. I thought the women's stories were kind of weak for half of the first season but ever since then they meshed well and it doesn't suck the air out of the room whenever they cut back to suburbia. If THE UNIT packs it in without a compelling conclusion, I will be saddened. I like that show, and Ryan knows how to wrap things up well. Give the guy AT LEAST another season to close this out with a bang.
Chuck and Castle need to stay by ThrowMeTheIdol	Apr 20th, 2009 08:53:10 AM
I'd watch the Unusuals too if that sticks around.
Chuck 50/50? by HoboCode	Apr 20th, 2009 08:55:17 AM
Really. I assumed the ratings were good. That's a shame. I hope it gets renewed. I enjoy it in spite of myself. Castle blows ass and needs to die. Can we get something decent for Fllion PLEASE?!
Save REAPER, TSCC and BETTER OFF TED! Everything else...Go ahea by SpyGuy	Apr 20th, 2009 08:56:44 AM
Is there any way we can add FRINGE's Anna Torv to the "Unlikely to Return" list? I have bellybutton lint with more pizzazz than that chick.
They flip a coin! by Tekzel	Apr 20th, 2009 09:00:11 AM
I am convinced the boneheads at networks flip a freaking coin to decide which shows to keep and which to end. Most of my favorite shows are in the 50/50 slot and unlikely to return. I wonder about the guy that called Southland awful though, I couldn't disagree more. It grabbed me totally on the pilot which is super rare. I loved it at the end of the first episode. Reaper, DAMN those bastards to hell if they end it now. That show is one of the best and entertaining on television, in my opinion.
Chuck is great... by Philvis	Apr 20th, 2009 09:02:47 AM
Chuck is one of my favorite shows. My wife and I watch it every week along with Medium. I hope both return for sure. Chuck is just a fun show that doesn't take itself too seriously and the acting is pretty good. Medium is also a show that entertains. Some weeks are off, but that is with any show. Bring them both back dammit!
by Squashua	Apr 20th, 2009 09:03:26 AM

Nielsen ratings' time has passed. They mean nothing now. by NinjaRap	Apr 20th, 2009 09:05:10 AM
I hope the networks will focus harder on how to make money from DVR numbers, online episode streams (Fox.com, Hulu, etc), DVD sales, etc.
Make an Assessment by fain88	Apr 20th, 2009 09:06:45 AM
LIKELY TO RETURN: Ghost Whisperer Southland Ugly Betty UNLIKELY TO RETURN: Life Reaper T:tSCC 50/50: Better Off Ted Castle Chuck Dollhouse Alrighty then. SHOOTS SELF IN THE FACE Seriously. Ghost Whisperer and Ugly Betty. Seriously. Glad HIMYM is getting some love, though; I've been watching it since first season. I will have to say, recently it's become a little bit hit & miss. And good, Dollhouse is a 50/50 so they can jerk Joss around a little longer, maybe give him a half-season to build up and then get shit canned. FOX, you are the devil.
SAVE THE DOLLHOUSE !! by terquick	Apr 20th, 2009 09:06:48 AM
We need to see more Eliza Dushku. We need to see a Josh Whedon created show. We need to see more Eliza Dushku.Did i mention that already?
There's only two L&O shows on network TV now by chrth	Apr 20th, 2009 09:10:26 AM
Why is everyone saying 3?
Amy Chasing, two words, Old People by indyjonez100	Apr 20th, 2009 09:10:46 AM
Old people are watching this show, who in turn drive the ratings. Never mind I tivoed Reaper and can watch it at my convenience. I just hope they don't cancel Reaper because I just got my wife to start watching. One of the funnier shows on TV right now, which is saying much for the state of TV. SAVE REAPER!
Just let Dollhouse die now rather than in six months by happybunni	Apr 20th, 2009 09:11:56 AM
Really, anything Whedon creates is doomed to fail. It is a sad fact of reality. Dollhouse is not going to get three seasons, that's for sure. I rather they just kill the show now than expand it and pump out low budget crappy eps before killing it.
Silver Lining by candafilm	Apr 20th, 2009 09:12:35 AM
The good news is Kath & Kim is getting canned. It's just a horrible show.
If Dollhouse was half as good as any of Joss' other shows, I'd c by NinjaRap	Apr 20th, 2009 09:14:05 AM
But it's not, so I don't. Plus it's inherently difficult to like any of the characters. Everyone who works for the Dollhouse and has a personality is complicit in horrific memory erasures (especially the ones that go up to "The Attic") and repeated whoring out of brainwashed people. All the dolls have zero personalities, and even the one personality we know anything about from before they were dolls - Echo/Caroline - was a complete assclown. Even Agent Ballard is sexually obsessed with one of the sex-slaves being held by the Dollhouse, and let's not even get started on Adelle, who literally forces people to sign their lives away by locking them in a room without letting them leave. Fuck all these shitheads, and fuck Joss Whedon too. He's better off writing comic books.
Let "Chuck" and "Reaper" go but by all means keep "Lost" and "He by Pdorwick	Apr 20th, 2009 09:14:20 AM
...ridiculous.
Also keep in mind by The McPoyle Clan	Apr 20th, 2009 09:16:19 AM
If you like a bubble show on NBC, they'll have five fewer hours to program each week, since they're handing them over Leno. ZZZZzzzz...
CHUCK better return. by HorrorFan81	Apr 20th, 2009 09:20:58 AM
Or there will be Hell to pay. Don't care about any of the other shows.
Wait, which Law and Order is getting renewed? by I_am_the_ultimate_product	Apr 20th, 2009 09:21:51 AM
Aren't there like 6 of them? Or is that CSI? I'm confused...
Yvonne Strahovski, I'm here for you by YackBacker	Apr 20th, 2009 09:25:23 AM
Come by and I'll rub your shoulders with the finest oils in all of creation. Then I will break you off nasty all night long. (h/t Smoove B.)
Unlikely to return? by Furzee	Apr 20th, 2009 09:27:35 AM
11th Hour: I liked it but can see why it couldn't find an audience Chuck: Really?? Chuck is a great show. Consistently likable and the girl who plays Sarah is fucking smoking hot. If you don't like Zachary Levi jusr watch with the sound down. She's beautiful. TSCC: Got way better towards the end of the season. Better than anything I've seen on a Friday in a long time. What is gonna do better on Fox on a Friday night? C'mon, renew it already. You can't do better Fox and you know it! Life: Quirky and awesome. Damien Lewis MADE this show great, for anyone who actually tuned in. If it's cancelled I hope he does something else genre related. How about a REAL Asimov Robots novel with Lewis as Elijah Bailey? The Unit: Consistently well acted. Jonas was bad ass. Got a little out there when the whole families went undercover but it was still a fun show that wasnt afraid to kill people, including major characters Well that's my two cents. Chuck and Life will be sorely missed
I work for Nielsen's Technology Center in Oldsmar by ErecT	Apr 20th, 2009 09:36:13 AM
Thats were all the ratings information originates from. While I'm not a top level executive, I do have a pretty high position that gives me access to those in charge and I get to sit in quite a few meetings. Trust me when I tell you Nielsen succeeds IN SPITE of ITSELF. To say the equipment and information gathering methods are outdated is an understatement. Add that to the fact that some of the new regime are vindictive and morally bankrupt and what you get are numbers that don't reflect the general viewing public. I'll give you an example. There's a very senior level individual named Mitchell Habib @ the company who isn't well though of amongst the employees. Not too long ago Lou Dobbs ran a segment that was critical of Nielsen for off-shoring tech jobs. In a closed door meeting, Mr. Habib layed out a plan to pull and not renew Nielsen set-top boxes from Dobb's viewers to effectively cost him roughly 6 million dollars in advertising. I don't know about you, but that sounds like number manipulation to me. DOn't even get me started on the DAILY fixes we have to do because the programs that calculate the numbers either crashes or pulls in information in correctly...but until another company steps-up, that's what the networks are going to rely on.
Chuck is so entertaining and funny. by erichaislar	Apr 20th, 2009 09:41:45 AM
It's the one show that has never really disappointed me. It's not the best show ever. But i can't wait to watch every week.
by FollowMal	Apr 20th, 2009 09:42:06 AM
Chuck and Castle are must sees for me. So I'm glad they're at least 50/50. Life is my favorite show on tv right now. If it doesn't return, I'm not watching Leno. I'd not be anyway, but I'll sure write and protest. Life is beautifully written and adcted, twisty interesting tv and it's a shame to lose it to Leno's needed hour. Bah Leno! NBC, you'll regret the change in the future.
Noooo, not Reaper! by VictorNewman	Apr 20th, 2009 09:42:29 AM
Damn you Fox! I guess you need to make room for "Who Wants To Fuck My Grandfather?" or "The Amazing World of Octo-Mom"
VictorNewman by erichaislar	Apr 20th, 2009 09:47:06 AM
Reaper on CW dude. So damn them. I am with you.
Fain88 by genesis495	Apr 20th, 2009 09:53:06 AM
The reason I think that HIMYM has become hit and miss a little is because of the two pregnancies that are going on during this season and we won't have Lily back till the season finale it seems like. However, next season should be Legen...wait for it...hope your not lactose intolerant because the next part is..dary.
I loved Reaper last season..... by OBSD	Apr 20th, 2009 09:54:34 AM
This season? Not so much. I finding myself caring less and less if all the main characters can maintain relationships and more and more frusturated that the basic storyline of "Sam and the deal with the devil" has been spinning its wheels this entire season. Yeah, yeah,we get it. Sam's really not the son of the devil, and when Sam's dad reveals this, he'll break his deal with the devil and finally die. They made that clear with a throwaway line a few episodes ago. And so until that happens (at the season finale), we have to deal with Andi not trusting Sam (again), Morgan the douchebag, and Sock and Ben's romantic trials and tribulations. Plus, it isn't as funny as it used to be. This season is lacking some serious forward momentum and although I want it to get better, I know that few shows can pull a Lost season 3 turnaround, so I'm not really all that upset if it gets cancelled.
oops by VictorNewman	Apr 20th, 2009 09:55:25 AM
I knew that. I'm just so used to directing anger towards Fox.
NO! I LOVE KINGS! HERC - I BLAME YOU FOR NOT GIVING IT MORE COVE by silentbobafett2	Apr 20th, 2009 09:58:20 AM

Clearly Hercules is to blame for King's cancellation. by Leafar the Lost	Apr 20th, 2009 10:12:33 AM
If Hercules had provided a Kings Talkback for the show, then it would have been renewed for a 2nd season. Clearly, Hercules is to blame, and I think he should send Ian McShame a letter of apology. He should also apologize to me personally, and then to all of the fans on AICN.
Reaper is funny by liljuniorbrown	Apr 20th, 2009 10:13:09 AM
It's just really funny. Some of the CGI is bad but over all it's hysterical. When the devil congradulated Sam by playing "You're the best around" from the Karate Kid on a car stereo while dancing around I about shit my pants laughing.Maybe i'm just easily amused.
Chuck > The Big Bang Theory by bontster	Apr 20th, 2009 10:27:18 AM
That is all.
But, hey, TIM AND ERIC is a shoo-in by thegreatwhatzit	Apr 20th, 2009 10:34:00 AM
Proof that the bottom of the food chain (i.e. unbridled shit) is afforded survival/longevity.
Chuck & Dollhouse 50/50 ?! by lsleelee	Apr 20th, 2009 10:38:33 AM
What the what? I thought both were goners for sure. Thank God Chuck still has a chance and "meh" that Dollhouse still has a chance.
Cancel everything... by mrfan	Apr 20th, 2009 10:45:31 AM
and start fresh. Too much crap on television anymore. No wonder I surf the net so much. Porn sites love me.
Life was the best cop show in years..... by archer1949	Apr 20th, 2009 10:47:32 AM
Of course, it was so good that I am surprised that it last as long as it did. Fuck the networks! Fuck them up their asses!
I hope Chuck returns... by STLost	Apr 20th, 2009 10:55:58 AM
Chuck is my 2nd favorite show (behind Lost.) These are the only shows I look forward to on a weekly basis. Yes, Chuck most of the time has the "spy mission of the week" format, but they also maintain great continuity with smaller arcs dealing with the spy stuff, the Buy More, and Chuck's family. The last few episodes dealing with Orion and now Chuck and Sarah on the run, has shown that the show has upped its game without compromising the comedy aspect. How can you not love a show that has a tech dude, playing Missle Command to the tune of "Tom Sawyer", get the abort codes to stop a satellite from launching missiles.
The Unit by jd77	Apr 20th, 2009 10:55:59 AM
Even my wife, who usually can't stand military movies/TV shows likes The Unit. It will be a shame to see it go. I at least hope they give it proper closure.
i heard chuck has been steadily ticking up this year by Timahh	Apr 20th, 2009 10:59:58 AM
i think it gets at least half a season more.
Southland is good. by HoboCode	Apr 20th, 2009 11:00:13 AM
It's 10 times better than I expected it to be. It's got Thomas C howell in it! How could you not like it?!
CCON, by Timahh	Apr 20th, 2009 11:02:11 AM
there is a better chance of them moving southland to a different day, then bumping one of their comedey shows off of "must see thursday."
We’re NOT a Month From ALL The Network Upfronts! by Hes	Apr 20th, 2009 11:04:00 AM
While ABC, CBS, and FOX stick to their usual mid-may dates for their fall schedule presentations, NBC's event is only a fortnight away (scheduled for may 5th).
re: Southland by c4andmore	Apr 20th, 2009 11:09:07 AM
I love a good cop show and this is turning into a good one. The first two episodes were good enough for me to keep watching this week. I think it may be even better than The Wire.
A Few Things by Rob0729	Apr 20th, 2009 11:10:14 AM
First, HIMYM is better than 50/50. The numbers are solid and they do better in the key demos (18-34) than Big Bang Theory which has already gotten a multiyear renewal. Also Chuck is great. It can be formulaic at times, but formulaic doesn't always mean that it is bad. Overall the writing, acting, and action are solid. Their numbers aren't much worse than Heroes which has all but been renewed and it costs less.
Show some love for Better Off Ted by jcrewrower2	Apr 20th, 2009 11:18:52 AM
Funniest show since Arrested Development's departure. ABC has a history of dropping these spring shows (Knights of Prosperity) but my fingers are crossed.
Chuck is much better this year, Reaper is slightly weaker by newc0253	Apr 20th, 2009 11:20:12 AM
but, to be honest, the show started out pretty weak and, even at its best (c.f. the last several episodes) has never really been as good as it ought to be. when i first heard the concept and heard Josh Schwartz was involved, i thought: Seth Cohen from meets Alias, should be a sure-fire hit. but in its first season, the show was disappointingly broad, lazy and deeply repetitive. And for a show that has as many clever references as it did, it sure did next to nothing with them. Reaper, by contrast, started out in its first season with the same basic concept as Chuck but Reaper was the more inventive show, more willing to take risks and extend its ideas. I never understood all the folk falling all over themselves to praise season 1 Chuck when Reaper was that much funnier. Season 2 Chuck has been much stronger, a lot better written and with greater forward momentum. But it's still never quite the show it could be. Season 2 Reaper, on the other hand, has kind of plateaued: still funny, but weaker on the overall story. I enjoy both shows: it's a shame that Reaper may be going out on a low and Chuck on a high, but an even bigger shame that both are going at all. But i guess that, even if both are cancelled, we can look forward to next seasons' iteration of Guy Who Works In A Giant Retail Outlet Has Special Powers And Leads Secret Double Life.
CHUCK & REAPER are played out. by Fletcher_Hanks	Apr 20th, 2009 11:21:25 AM
I like them both, but it's pretty clear that the writers are out of ideas.
lockesbrokenleg's stupid comment about Chuck by JacksParasites	Apr 20th, 2009 11:28:53 AM
"Who watches that shit?" Apparently not you as the rest of your comment illustrates: "It's the same damn show every week. Chuck screws up. Some fights. Some jokes. That's it." A. Chuck rarely screws up these days and actually usually saves everyone's asses. B. "Some fights. Some jokes. That's it." could describe almost any show on TV. That's a pretty lazy description of a show. Why not just say some comedy, some drama, some action. That's it so that you can have officially described every show on TV.
RE: Fletcher_Hanks: I disagree by SimianJones	Apr 20th, 2009 11:30:09 AM
I disagree. I think that both shows are actually running better, getting better scripts, and better performances from their respective casts.
Life is awesome by Jodet	Apr 20th, 2009 11:32:55 AM
Very original and a great lead actor, Damian Lewis. NBC could fuck up a one car funeral.
They could put Southland on at 10pm Sunday by Big Jim	Apr 20th, 2009 11:36:37 AM
It would be too bad it Life is not around next year. Most entertaining cop show on tv. Hopefully Chuck will be back too. It's a fun show (loved the Godfather 2 reference last week) that isn't afraid of racking up a body count (again, last week - how many, 10, 12?).
All the hate against CHUCK is played out by Mr Incredible	Apr 20th, 2009 11:39:03 AM
This show has been fairly decent during its run. Heroes, on the other hand, has been lame, meandering crap. And worst, it instantly gets a fourth season. My Own Worst Enemy didn't get a chance to wrap it up; if NBC cancels CHUCK, at least let it have a series finale.
Better Off Ted: might need a second season. by Fawst	Apr 20th, 2009 11:42:21 AM
That show has many faults, but one thing it's not lacking for is balls. The Office does cringe-humor insanely well, but I don't think they have done something anywhere close to as outrageous as having a water fountain labeled "For Blacks." I heard last week's episode was a winner, too. I'll be watching that one back-to-back with this week's. I will give a show four episodes to pull me in. Better Off Ted paid off big time with the 4th episode. I hope they hit a stride and stick with it, because I do enjoy it.
If Chuck and Better off Ted are canceled... by yomomma	Apr 20th, 2009 11:43:55 AM
The networks will have canceled or ruined every show on TV that I watch. Heroes went lame, Pushing Daisies is gone, CSI almost totally recast, Middelman is gone. I'll be left with Fringe, the Office and the Simpsons: I will have gone from 2 or so hours every day to 2 hours of watchable tv per week. LAME. At least Burn Notice comes back in a few months.
How to save your favorite show by InActionMan	Apr 20th, 2009 11:45:38 AM
Put CSI in front of the title: CSI:The Sarah Connor Chronicles - Sarah, Cameron and John team up with forensic experts to fight terminators and hunt down Skynet. CSI: Caprica - William Adama teams up with Caprican forensic experts to track down Cylons. CSI:Chuck - Chuck goes to work in a forensic lab run by hot chicks. Wash, Rinse, Repeat.
Scrubs should get one more by Donkey_Lasher	Apr 20th, 2009 11:47:51 AM
It's actually returned to some Damn Good form this season (barring the last two parter holiday episode) and the new characters are fitting in well.
T:TSCC by artaxerxes	Apr 20th, 2009 11:54:23 AM
Renew. That is all.
Concerning The Unusuals, Cupid, and Scrubs... by Freakemovie	Apr 20th, 2009 11:56:42 AM
The Unusuals -- as a big Lost fan, it's the only post-Lost show I've ever bothered watching. And it's pretty good! Feels much more alive than all the rigidly formula-ized CSI clones. I enjoyed the second episode even more than the first. Wish the ratings were better. Cupid -- this show already failed once. Fairly recently. Who had the bright idea that 10+ million viewers would turn in THIS time? Scrubs -- Fan of the show, not such a fan of Bill Lawrence's constant bitching about how NBC was mean to it and didn't let it succeed. So even though I like it, it's strangely satisfying that the ratings on ABC -- who according to Lawrence advertised it a lot better than NBC -- are even lower than they were on NBC.
Surprised things look bleak for LIFE by RenoNevada2000	Apr 20th, 2009 12:01:14 PM
I know its Neilsons haven't been great, but has been doing strong DVR and Hulu numbers from what I hear...
Where is Scrubs on the current schedule? by gruntybear	Apr 20th, 2009 12:02:38 PM
If Scrubs is having ratings issues, it might be because it hasn't been at the same time slot consistently for its current run. I don't think the DVR has picked up a Scrubs episode in literally months.
That Cupid remake really had legs, huh? by fiester	Apr 20th, 2009 12:04:16 PM
Like the whole world didn't see that cancellation coming.
Its so sad, but everything thats worth watching is going.... by TheHichhiker	Apr 20th, 2009 12:04:46 PM
Life is by far the best show on TV. The Unit was awesome too... though they've been making it worse and worse this year, I guess in order to get ratings, which is unfortunate. Terminator went from "whatever" last year to a most excellent show this year. It'll suck if they do not resolve things just as they got interesting..... Cupid turned out to be better than expected. The new leads have no chemistry and the lost, sheepish, and invariably wrong Cannavale's Trevor Pierce, who is clearly a mental patient, has much less appeal than the forceful and "always right, even when completely wrong" Piven's Trevor Hale, who just might actually be Cupid after all... But once you let go of the original (which was excellent), this is not a bad show. Chuck and Reaper are ok, but I can't say I care enough to be upset they are gone... I think we got everything we were going to get out of those two, everything else is just more of same... I hope "Ted" gets picked up - its a well done show, and Dollhouse... well, I have mixed feeling about this show. In the end it suffers from same problem "Studio 60" suffered - its trying to take seriously something that just does not warrant it. For gods sake, its a high tech escort service. I know it will probably grow into a decent show, but it can go only so far, and I'd rather see Joss do something a bit more interesting.
Reaper canned and Smallville keeps on going and going by DrPain	Apr 20th, 2009 12:13:13 PM
Reaper is awesome. I still kinda dig Smallville but it's beyond redemption.
reaper is the only reason i tune into the CW by palewook	Apr 20th, 2009 12:16:24 PM
i can delete that PoS channel affiliate from my channel list when the CW cancels reaper.
The Summer Glau Show, next fall only on Fox. by DrPain	Apr 20th, 2009 12:21:13 PM
Just have her dance around for an hour.
DVR Numbers by killertv	Apr 20th, 2009 12:28:57 PM
People, wishing DVR/streaming numbers to be equal to television viewing numbers doesn't make it true. The number of people who watch television on TV (millions) is a lot more than those who watch television on the internet (thousands). Believe me, if the networks thought they could make money from a failing show, they would. Unfortunately, they can't. At least not yet. Honestly, though, Nielsen should figure out a more accurate way to measure viewers. Every cable box in the country could be equipped to report what channel is being watched when, which would be a huge increase of data. But I don't think that's going to happen any time soon. Kind of like the profitability of poorly performing shows on the net. @Gruntybear - Scrubs has been on Wednesdays @ 8pm for a few weeks now... but it's on ABC, not NBC.
Reaper just gets better... by Heckles	Apr 20th, 2009 12:32:33 PM
Don't know why it hasn't found an audience yet. One of the best things on CW. Actually, it's the only thing I watch on CW. Will not check another new show on that shit network if Reaper is axed.
DrPain --- THAT'S A GREAT IDEA!!!! by wackybantha	Apr 20th, 2009 12:33:41 PM
The Summer Glau Show would be the best show ever!!! Sign me up!!! Dancing around for an hour? Hmmm, Could work.
I was skeptical of "The 11th Hour" after seeing the UK... by Mindtrip	Apr 20th, 2009 12:35:09 PM
...version, but it worked. I watched it on Thursday nights instead of just letting it fill up my DVR. Life is another show that was really working as well. Finally, Chuck... I record this and watch it on Tuesday afternoon after getting in from work. It's a preposterous concept, but thoroughly enjoyable and fun to watch. TTSCC HAS to come back. It's one fo the best shows on. Hell, I watch Dollhouse because of the lead-in - although to be fair, Dollhouse is starting to find it's footing as we get deeper into it, so I would watch it anyway. Finally, Reaper... t's like all of the above shows (maybe a bit of exception with Dollhouse): it has chemistry amongst it's cast members that allow you to buy into the premise of the show easier.
TSCC & Chuck by potter4eva	Apr 20th, 2009 12:35:22 PM
As a female, I happen to totally love Chuck! The geekiness, the humor, the love story - I absolutely LOVE the show! I'd be so upset if they canceled it! But the show that I would be MOST angry about if they cancel is The Sarah Connor Chronicles. We bought Season 1 DVD set this weekend and watched the entire thing, then went and started over on Season 2 on the DVR. This show rocks! And should NOT be canceled! And if Fox (POS network!) cancels it than I won't go back to them (it's the only show I watch on their network) and I'll pray that someone else takes it and I'll be a lifelong member of their network. This show has excellent story lines, writing, and acting!! PLEASE DON'T CANCEL THESE SHOWS!!!
How I feel.... by rsanta74	Apr 20th, 2009 12:35:27 PM
UNLIKELY TO RETURN ------------------ - Cupid: Not surprised. Won't be missed. No Piven. Nor Marshall. No dice. The new cupid looks like an unlikeable goon. Wasn't a fan of his "acting" on Will & Grace. Not a fan here. - Kath & Kim: Deserves to die. Selma Blair may be a piece of hot beanpole ass, but no ass is worth sitting through that shit. - Reaper: I actually WOULD miss this show. The supporting cast has been so great this season. Sock & his step sister. Ben & his demon lover. Morgan. Funny stuff. - Terminator: I've got mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, this is currently the best sci-fi action show that network TV has seen in years. On the other hand, the S2 ending acted nicely enough as a series ender. Just like the S2 finale to Dark Angel some years back. Not meant to be a series ender, but works well as one anyway. Its something I think I can live with, even if I'd miss the Glau. The show had a strong run. FIFTY/FIFTY ----------- - Better Off Ted: Best new comedy in years. Unfortunately quirky doesn't play well with studio execs, especially ones from conservative networks like ABC. - Castle: Fillion is kinda a jinx. Isn't he? I mean, just about every show he's on gets canceled or is on its way out. Drive. Buffy. Firefly. Two Guys, a Girl & a Pizza Place. His name might as well be Johnny AIDS where viewers are concerned. - Chuck: An... interesting... show, but I could never get into it. I never found the cast or stories engaging enough to watch for more than one or two odd episodes. - Dollhouse: THIS is 50/50?!?! I like the show. Don't get me wrong. However, its as slow as molasses and the ratings are actually WORSE than TSCC. If Terminator gets canceled then this show's only chance is if FOX tosses Whedon a pity season to make up for Firefly. - Medium: This season one of the best so far. Not as good as the Angelic Huston eps last season, but still enjoyable TV. Unfortunately, as good as the show still is, the story twists and are becoming ever more predictable. If there's a special guest star.... He's the bad guy. If you have half a brain enough to watch the opening dreams then the rest of the episode is easy enough to predict. - The Unusuals: Ooohh!!! A quicky cop show!!! Wheeeh!!! C'MON. People don't want a quirky copy show. NYPD Blue didn't succeed because of oddball characters. It lasted for so long because of very human, very likable characters and a less idealize, more real world take on the genre. The Unusuals will fall victim to the Cop Rock syndrome. The gag will wear thin quickly and the show will have to rely on... shock... quality storytelling. Not gonna happen. Plus, Amber Tamblyn is only believable as the naughty cop in my fantasies. LIKELY TO RETURN ---------------- - Ghost Whisperer: Another season of the chunky ass, big tits show? Why? - How I Met Your Mother: I lost interest in this show at the beginning of S2. The show's premise has been one giant tease and no amount of NPH coolness can make me watch it again. - Law & Order: Mixed feelings on this. Great concept. Interesting stories. Some really awesome eps. Hate the constant cast changes throughout the entire franchise. - Southland: Not a big fan. Maybe because the promos already had me sick of it before the premiere. - Ugly Betty: America is actually pretty cute off-screen, but this is such a chick show that I couldn't care less. I'd sooner watch repeats of Smallville's worst eps than some whiny fashionista wannabe.
I've probably watched all of 5 minutes total of American Dad by skimn	Apr 20th, 2009 12:42:20 PM
but last night had a line I had to laugh at, considering all this: Alien: I once headed a campaign to keep Ghost Whisperer on the air> Mom: Thats still on the air. Alien: It issss ??
Life is a great show by The Funketeer	Apr 20th, 2009 12:42:55 PM
The writer's strike hurt it I think and that pregnancy this season didn't help either. Hopefully, if it doesn't come back, they'll get a chance to wrap it up.
Scrubs was up against the behemoth that is by skimn	Apr 20th, 2009 12:45:52 PM
American Idol, where on NBC it was up against CSI. The networks treat it like filler, why should low ratings be a suprise?
For those that didn't know: Kings is on Saturday... by Mindtrip	Apr 20th, 2009 12:53:57 PM
...nights now. I missed this past weeks ep but have dl'd it. It's a good and very unorthodox series. I've got to find out if the world they created is based on events in this world they haven't gotten aroudn to showing yet or just an alternate universe.
Writer's Strike hurt by rsanta74	Apr 20th, 2009 12:54:12 PM
EVERY show. So many storylines were forcibly cut short. So many shows lost momentum and just never recovered. I've become so disillusioned with TV. 95% of what's on is total shit. The other 5% is "on the bubble" stuff that will so be canceled and replaced with more mindless reality TV shows and phoned in procedurals. What pisses me off most is FOX in general. I remember when they first opened shop. The TV shows were edgy & took risks. FOX was the renegade network that represented everything that wasn't the establishment. Now, they've become "the man" and are afraid to roll the dice on shows that no other network would. That's kinda sad. It's like watching a former hippie run for his 3rd term in congress. With this economy, the only renewed show is the "safe bet" one. Cheap to produce. Junk food to the masses. Mad Libs writing.
rsanta74: HIMYM by TheHichhiker	Apr 20th, 2009 12:54:27 PM
Forget about the stupid gimmic of HIMYM. It is by far the least interesting part of the show - and if they got rid of the Bob and the kids, no one would miss them (they are pretty much gone these days) Just treat it as a next generation of "Friends"-like sitcom - a damn funny one at that. It was one of the best sitcoms, until Big Bang beat it up and took its lunch money... (ironic isn't it...) "- Southland: Not a big fan. Maybe because the promos already had me sick of it before the premiere." Totally dead on. Could not bring myself to watch it after seeing the commercials... Seemed like a castrated Shield meets ER... who'd want to watch THAT???
Hmm, I guess it's looking better for FRINGE by bravogolfhotel	Apr 20th, 2009 12:54:46 PM
No mention of it being on the bubble at all despite the lack of an early renewal.
I promise to stop watching tv by loki965	Apr 20th, 2009 12:57:05 PM
I'll do everyone a favor and stop watching TV because if I like it, it gets cancelled. Dead Like Me - cancelled, Deadwood - cancelled, Carnivale - cancelled, Reaper, TSCC, Chuck, ditto, ditto, ditto. I'll stop watching Dexter before it's too late.
Let Scrubs end gracefully by rsanta74	Apr 20th, 2009 01:00:21 PM
This season looks to be wrapping up in a fairly sensible manner. I'm happy with JD ending up with Elliot. Cox as chief is long over due. I'm ecstatic that Ted grew a spine, even if he's still a wimp. Janitor's growth has been fun too. Kelso as the Norm Peterson of Sacred Heart has been a hoot. As much as I like the interns, the familar faces ARE the show. Without them, it wouldn't be Scrubs.
The McPoyle Clan please give more info about Reaper. by Mindtrip	Apr 20th, 2009 01:01:11 PM
Who has jumped ship?
rsanta74 re: T:SCC beating DH in ratings by buffywrestling	Apr 20th, 2009 01:01:34 PM
Since when??
Scrubs couldn't succeed? by fain88	Apr 20th, 2009 01:02:22 PM
Isn't this, like, the 9th season? And we're saying T:tSCC was lucky to get a season and a 1/2? shakes head The world today, I tells ya.
chuck sucks by Chutch	Apr 20th, 2009 01:03:31 PM
so fuck chuck. some of you people calling it the best show on tv now need to wake the fuck up and start watching last season's "eastbound & down" because you sound like fucking retards.
We shouldn't be surprised anymore. by frozen01	Apr 20th, 2009 01:08:51 PM
If you like a show, it'll get cancelled. Bottom line. Dollhouse ain't bad, though, guys. But, just like any other Joss Whedon show, it takes a while to build up. The potential is there, we just need to get through a few things before the zazz hits. Is that any different from Buffy, for example? And be nice to Castle. I'll be the first to admit that I only started to watch it because of Fillion, and it can be too formulaic, but the crimes are creative and the characters are awesome. If I can't have Pushing Daisies, I'll take Castle, thank you! I share everyone else's amazement that Ghost Whisperer is still on the air. That is the most God-awful boring crap I have ever seen! Those stupid reality TV ghost shows are more interesting than this drivel. And Reaper might get canned? How!?! That show is gleefully idiotic, in a way that entertains us while keeping the drooling masses happy too (yay Sock!) or so you would think. WTF?
GODDAMNIT BEAVIS! by thesinofthesky	Apr 20th, 2009 01:12:04 PM
These motherfuckers are gutting, absolutely gutting my stable of shows. The Unit? That wasn't expected. Sarah Connor Chronicles, okay, we all kind of saw that coming, even though the end of this season was phenomenal. I always enjoyed Reaper and Chuck when I got around to watching them. I'm left with Supernatural (hands down the best show on TV- fuck you, haters) and Fringe. Time to make way for more shitty reality shows....sigh
JD77, your wife likes "The Unit", because she wants to fuck... by Leafar the Lost	Apr 20th, 2009 01:13:32 PM
...one of the actors on the show. Trust me, I am not trying to be an asshole, I am just telling you the truth. Women do not watch shows like "The Unit" for the military style action and realistic storylines. My wife's current favorite show is "Ghost Hunters" on the Syphilis Channel, so maybe she has a thing for that bald, plumber dude.
Down to Lost, Fringe, Dexter, the Office, EB&D, and South Park by Domi'sInnerChild	Apr 20th, 2009 01:15:39 PM
The cancellations are quickly weening me off television. 40% of the shows I watch are gone this year. Maybe they can merge Eastbound & Down and Fringe. Kenny Powers investigating the paranomal instead of the blonde chick? I smell gold there.
Mindtrip by Cinemanimetal	Apr 20th, 2009 01:16:51 PM
Reaper creators Michele Fazekas and Tara Butters signed a contract with 20th Century Fox TV which means they won't be able to work on reaper even if it does return. Also Tyler Labine is going to be the lead in a show called Sons of Tuscan for FOX so he won't be able to do Reaper either.
@buffywrestling RE: Ratings by rsanta74	Apr 20th, 2009 01:22:25 PM
AFAIK, on average, I think that TSCC has had about 3.0m-3.6m viewers per ep while Dollhouse has had about 2.9m. The most recent April 10 eps, actually saw a reversal of that trend. TSCC stayed on point with its predictable 3.65m. Dollhouse saw a surge to 4.13m. Not the best ratings for either show, but certainly on par with the recently renewed Friday Night Lights and double what shows like Everybody Hates Chris or America's Next Top Model gets. The real problem is that TSCC is too expensive for network TV. 3.65m would be forgivable if the show were cheaper. Apparently, there are not enough reusable physical & VFX related assets. Plus, the gamble of selling fewer commercials has turned into a gamble that has backfired. I'd gladly watch more commercials if it meant that the show would still be on, but that's just me.
Love Reaper, will no longer watch the CW by JuanSanchez	Apr 20th, 2009 01:24:09 PM

Correction by rsanta74	Apr 20th, 2009 01:25:28 PM
April 10th saw both TSCC & Dollhouse tie with 3.65m viewers. Dollhouse actually dropped from 4.13m to 3.65m from March 21 to April 10 while TSCC remained the same @ 3.65m.
Cinemanimetal: That's not true! That's impossible! by chrth	Apr 20th, 2009 01:27:51 PM
Nooooooooooooooo!
Give up the contact emails! by Keblar	Apr 20th, 2009 01:34:50 PM
Ok, so who's done the Google legwork, or has the industry skinny? Who do we contact to put in our, "If you cancels this you're an idiot," emails?
Won't matter, Keblar by rsanta74	Apr 20th, 2009 01:42:44 PM
They'll likely treat that stuff like spam. Online petitions are worthless. Physical snail mail is always better. Voting with your dollar is the best way to voice your opinions. If the show already has seasons on DVD, buying them en masse will probably show your support for the show than some e-campaign.
Jay Leno is killing TV by pollaxt	Apr 20th, 2009 01:45:54 PM
Life is an amazing show with just about the greatest soundtrack ever.
Life by Dollar Bird	Apr 20th, 2009 01:47:04 PM
The only I show I care about on that list is "Life." Lewis' character is fun and I love how he interacts with his partners and the world. I know they've aired the season finale, which was written to also be a series finale, just in case. It was satisfying, but I hate to see a character I like go away for frickin' Jay Leno's variety hour.
Don't cancel The Unit by viranth	Apr 20th, 2009 01:47:34 PM
Only show I really look forward to these days, 24 is shit, dollhouse is boring, Battlestar Galactica is gone, Heroes is too tedious...
According to my pifeedback.com signature, I watch by chrth	Apr 20th, 2009 01:52:46 PM
8 shows ... with the strong possibility of at least 2 going bye bye. Thank goodness Burn Notice is rocking.
Tyler Labine by Qwonk	Apr 20th, 2009 01:54:13 PM
Not that it matters since Reaper will almost definitely be cancelled, but I did hear that Labine has some sort of contract that says Reaper gets first dibs on him over the other show. Same with Brian Austin Green and TSCC. Gah, doesn't Chuck get almost as high ratings as Heroes? Seems like I was thinking Heroes is in the high 6 mil range each week, and Chuck is in the low 6 mil. Plus I bet it's a lot cheaper to make.
Dammit by Qwonk	Apr 20th, 2009 01:57:11 PM
Dammit. Forgot the paragraph break. Thank God my three favorite shows are coming back. Sucks that my next five or six are on the danger list.
:( by darkpassenger	Apr 20th, 2009 02:06:23 PM
shame about kings and t:scc , the john henry storyline was pretty interesting, i really i like the actor who plays him better off ted was funny too... anyone know if testees is canceled?
Keep Chuck lose Heroes...... by j2talk	Apr 20th, 2009 02:14:10 PM

If Leno doesn't do well at 10pm... by Kirsan	Apr 20th, 2009 02:16:21 PM
then NBC has to find 5 hours of programming to replace it plus all the hours they are replacing in the rest of the schedule. Maybe they should keep a little something in their back pocket just in case.
Life is the only by OfficerJunior	Apr 20th, 2009 02:16:33 PM
crime a week show I watch. It's too good of a show for NBC.
I find the Office Tedious and played out by Stormwatcher	Apr 20th, 2009 02:21:52 PM
When do you stop laughing and start feeling uncomfortable? I mean how many times can the Boss be clueless and stupid and the staff petty? 30 Rock stays great somehow though, managing to negotiate the comical and absurd without causing you to roll your eyes. Yeah, Parks and Recreation is just about as bad too. Really sick of them.
NBC's back pocket by chrth	Apr 20th, 2009 02:22:48 PM
I can guarantee is repeat airings of the USA Network shows until they get new shows lined up.
The Office is boring by lockesbrokenleg	Apr 20th, 2009 02:27:02 PM
I've watched a few times, but it's just unfunny guys talking to the camera.
Reaper needs to put Missy Peregrym in a bikini by IndyCollector	Apr 20th, 2009 02:27:09 PM
That's ratings gold there.
This is why I don't like to wach shows in their first season by drewlicious	Apr 20th, 2009 02:29:19 PM
I find myself getting interested in a story that may never get completed. I wait for the second season and then watch the first on dvd beforehand. That's probably how I'm going to see "Fringe" because I've been hearing nothing but good things and I'm putting it on netflix if it comes back for season 2.
Harrision Ford looks like Karl Malden!!!!! by DarfurOnTheRocks	Apr 20th, 2009 02:31:17 PM
That Premium Format figure is awwwful.
Chuck needs more Scott Bakula. by NoodlesHahn	Apr 20th, 2009 02:48:53 PM
Actually, everything needs more Scott Bakula.
indycollecter - have to agree about missy in a bikini by palewook	Apr 20th, 2009 03:03:51 PM
http://tinyurl.com/dk9c4n also have to wonder how many years from now until she ends up in playboy.
All of my favorites, naturally. by My Pretty Pony	Apr 20th, 2009 03:12:38 PM
I don't understand why The CW is so eager to get rid of "Reaper". Doesn't it regularly get better ratings than their precious "Gossip Girl" & "90210"? It really sucks that "Life" will probably be canceled. It's a terrific show. I don't even know why "Medium" & "Cold Case" are in any danger. They're both solid shows. CC has been on for a while and it seems to get high ratings every Sunday night. For some reason, I'm not surprised that "Dollhouse" has a better chance of renewal than "Terminator", though I really wish it were the other way around. I like "Dollhouse", but "Terminator" is so much better and deserves the renewal. It seems kinda crazy to cancel the show now, with the movie coming out and that fantastic finale. The only saving grace is that "Friday Night Lights" has already been renewed. It seems that TV viewing will be pretty dismal next season.
They killed Terminator! by johnnyangel	Apr 20th, 2009 03:13:56 PM
The bastards!
will one of you please make a new system? by La.Cucaracha	Apr 20th, 2009 03:23:24 PM
Someone, somewhere out there has the ability to make a new ratings system. Please start. The networks want to make money and unless everyone on this board is ready to buy a new car or another really expensive product that will pour money into your show, they wont buy ads. The suits look at numbers, the number are from Nielsen. Overthrow Nielsen.
Chuck/T:SCC/Dollhouse by Toonol	Apr 20th, 2009 03:29:44 PM
Are the three on the list that I hope come back. If they go, that's 60% of my weekly television gone... 75%, if I finally give up on Heroes. My television may be devoted to Fringe for one hour, then 40 hours of DVDs and videogames.
Why would you overthrow Nielsen? The numbers are right by chrth	Apr 20th, 2009 03:31:16 PM
Any college level statistics course would teach you that they're something like 95% accurate (and no, your favorite show is not in the 5%). Don't fall into the common fallacy that if X people agree with you that you know of, then 10^X people actually agree with you in the real world. As for DVRs and Hulu, etc., the execs and advertisers simply don't trust those numbers -- not because they're inaccurate, but because there's a lot lower of a guarantee the commercials are actually being watched. Live viewing will always take precedence, and Nielsen's numbers for live viewing are probably as accurate as you're going to get without Big Brother (the concept, not the tv show)
Reading the comments I guess I'm alone.. by MJDeViant	Apr 20th, 2009 03:41:30 PM
I want Kath and Kim to stay. I love Shannon and Higgins. I also think it's just different enough to fit in the schedule. Parks and Recreation should move to another day because it is VERY similar to the Office. I like it, because I have liked Amy Poehler since UCB was on comedy central. They should go an hour long with Parks and Rec on another day. I hate how all the drams and stupid CSIs get an hour, lets have some more comedies do that.
the reaper, the unit are getting canceled while the ghostwhisper by crazybubba	Apr 20th, 2009 03:42:05 PM
lives on???? there's no accounting for taste! Who are these people?
MJD, people may hate Kath and Kim by skimn	Apr 20th, 2009 03:47:34 PM
But I agree that Higgins can do no wrong. Even his commercials for Direct TV are a blast.
Don't fall into the common fallacy by La.Cucaracha	Apr 20th, 2009 03:51:51 PM
The Chrth isn't a douchebag.
Costs is going to kill more shows the next couple seasons by chrth	Apr 20th, 2009 04:04:14 PM
than straight ratings. Unit and Without a Trace are doing good ratings slot-wise, they just cost too much to justify their current position on the schedule. They could be saved by jettisoning some core cast, but would the show suffer as a result? It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out. It'd also be interesting if a network actually cared about Saturday again.
rsanta74 by buffywrestling	Apr 20th, 2009 04:06:22 PM
I checked out tvbythemumbers[dot]com and although T:SCC seemed to trend in higher viewers total in the last 3 episodes only, I don't ever see it beating Dollhouse in the important 18-49 demo. (I know where to search for breakdowns of Dollhouse numbers since the pilot but trying to find the numbers for S2 of T:SCC is making me nutzo.)
Of course, the one thing they should be doing is by chrth	Apr 20th, 2009 04:07:53 PM
keeping the shows that do skew old. 18-35 is going through their first major recession after living their entire lives spending like there was no tomorrow. 55+ actually have money. I knew who'd I target.
buffywrestling: try pifeedback.com by chrth	Apr 20th, 2009 04:08:37 PM
There's a forum there with the nightly ratings
Come on guys, by Projbalance	Apr 20th, 2009 04:28:02 PM

by Projbalance	Apr 20th, 2009 04:29:43 PM
It's all about money, don't you know this by now? Any show that costs a few bucks to produce but isn't an instant smash hit is going to get the ax; every time. They will undoubtedly be replaced by shows that cos half as much to produce. The quality of the shows doesn't matter. If they can't make them cheap, they don't get made.
chrth by ErecT	Apr 20th, 2009 04:42:19 PM
Nielsen employee again here...you have to understand, it's not the statistical model that's outdated, it's the input that needs to be questioned. Nielsen is more interested with raw numbers as opposed to the quality and diversity of their input models. Also, their method of data collection still relies on hand written mail in diaries in over 40% of the survey households.
Kings is the best show on TV by polyh3dron	Apr 20th, 2009 04:58:43 PM
NBC is ridiculous for giving up its timeslot to YET ANOTHER FUCKING COP SHOW. I am through with you NBC.
Terminator ratings > Dollhouse ratings, BUT! by NinjaRap	Apr 20th, 2009 05:26:18 PM
...Terminator costs Fox more to air. They have to license it from Warner Bros, whereas Dollhouse is an in-house Fox-based production. So it's cheaper. And ultimately, "cheaper" is the real reason it's likely to return over Terminator.
Terminator terminated! by oisin5199	Apr 20th, 2009 05:29:55 PM
Can't believe that wasn't in the headline. The last two episodes were good, but it was too little, too late for what has mostly been a yawn fest this season. I said before that Dollhouse would probably get renewed and Terminator canceled. Really, there's nowhere to go for this show, but more dreary and miserable.
Real Shame about Kings really by Tommy999	Apr 20th, 2009 05:32:05 PM
Because it's a damn good show and you know there's a good couple years of good show in the premise too, but why give an expensive show like that a chance when you can have that Hack Leno on 5 times a week for cheap. Honestly If I were a writer or producer these days I'd take all my good ideas straight to cable
Don't cancel Kings!!!!!! by Super Rabbi	Apr 20th, 2009 05:38:23 PM
You corporate fuckwits!
NBC... by Frank Black	Apr 20th, 2009 05:43:22 PM
has to resort to Leno 5 nights a week because they can't handle a quality show like Life. The networks should take a clue from the cable networks and have some balls, Dexter, Sopranos, Weeds, Eastbound & Down... Once Lost is off the air, I will likely NEVER watch another network show again because they never give them a chance to find their audience.
NBC needs to go those liberal FUCKS!!!! by bosskmr	Apr 20th, 2009 05:43:37 PM
WTF!!!! Don't cancel Reaper!!!!
R.I.P Reaper, we hardly knew ye by VikingQuestFan42	Apr 20th, 2009 05:45:50 PM
Gee I wonder why Reaper got cancelled! Maybe because at the end of last season the IDIOTS at CW moved Reaper opposite LOST and lost viewers. So what do they do this season?? Put it opposite American Idol, fucking genius guys! Let's find all shows with potential and just fucking bury them in horrendous time slots! Two tears mother fucker, two tears!
WTF?! REAPER IS A HIT FOR THE CW! by SnapT	Apr 20th, 2009 05:46:21 PM
And it's one of the best shows on TV! Please don't cancel REAPER! And if you have to, please give it a good ending, or a series of TV movies or something! C'mon, it's a great show. I love all the characters, especially Sock and Ben and The Devil.
nbc has got limited GOOD programing by j2talk	Apr 20th, 2009 05:52:27 PM
monday Chuck is watchable Heroes is past it prime and at 10? Tuesdays they on air? wednesday Life is worthwhile if unnoticed, thursday has their "comedy", Friday dateline-wow, now there is a winner, sat/sun ??? and with all that "quality" you are telling me they CAN"T find a way to Keep Chuck and Life for another season? Hell moving Leno to 10pm as a cost cutting move might be a good idea but they still got 10 hrs of prime during the week and another 6 on the weekend with out a lot of programing that is attracting viewers
Damn, Life better be given a stay by aversiontherapy2	Apr 20th, 2009 05:55:51 PM
It was always good but at the end it just got brilliant.
Reaper and Medium must survive! by Raymar	Apr 20th, 2009 05:56:29 PM

ErecT: I understand what you're saying by chrth	Apr 20th, 2009 05:59:42 PM
But again, the alternative to me seems to be Big Brother, an alternative I'm not particularly fond of. Of course, part of my 'pro-nielsen' rhetoric is counter to the argument that the math can't be right, thus my emphasis that the statistics is solid.
Worst case scenario... by Johnny Smith	Apr 20th, 2009 06:22:30 PM
...I lose, let's see...Castle (not that big of a loss), Southland (has potential), Dollhouse (Whedon's weakest so far, but also has potential), Terminator (what I wouldn't do for a third season), Kings (a tremendous loss if it goes; fantastic so far), and the definite ending of both BSG and Prison Break (time to go for both, although it remains to be seen if PB will end as well as BSG), I'm down about half my viewing. Hopefully Caprica and the return of True Blood and Eureka will help fill the emptiness inside of me.
Shower Coffee!!! by jaws8u	Apr 20th, 2009 06:30:42 PM
A reaper man knows how to treat the ladies... Did anyone else catch the preview for last weeks episode? HILARIOUS!!! The episode itself was pretty funny.
Advertisers run what stays on the air by TheKitchenNinja	Apr 20th, 2009 06:31:19 PM
Advertisers control what shows stay and go. We can complain all we want about studio execs (and there IS plenty to complain about) and Nielsen's ratings relevancy but the facts are these: Advertisers want eyes for their ads. Unless and until there is a different system that THEY trust to tell them where those eyes are looking (especially in the target demographics the advertisers are aiming for) they will rely on the Nielsen's ratings. Viewers are not the consumer, they are the product the networks are selling. Their consumers (where they get their money) are the advertisers. Nielsen's is having a hard time accounting for DVRs and other viewing methods partially because those methods allow the very thing the advertisers least want: the ability to skip commercials. If we want this changed, as far as network TV, we have to find a way to change how advertisers think - no easy task. But it also means you have to find ways of getting the advertisers what they want: their product promotions to your eyes. If they can't get that, they're not interested paying. The other option is to find a new way to fund programming. There are options out there, but it seems they all turn to advertising in some form or another in the end due to getting more money.
If NBC cancels Chuck and LIFE by Turd Furgeson	Apr 20th, 2009 06:48:18 PM
What else do they have? Everything else on that Network sucks. I don't even watch their new shows anymore because I'm afraid they'll get cancelled after I like them. Self fulfilling prophecy I know but NBC is so horrible now I have no alternative... LIFE is a really damn good show... Man NBC sucks.
NBC should rethink possibly cancelling CHUCK... by RyanMurray	Apr 20th, 2009 07:08:49 PM
Seriously. The show has a proven fanbase and has been truly hitting it's stride during this second season (where it could've done such a thing during the 2nd half of Season 1 which the Writers Strike cancelled) because the writers and the actors and everyone on the show is finally letting loose and having fun. Oh yeah, and it has been GAINING fans as of late. How many other shows on TV have been going up? NBC has a winner on their hands if they find a timeslot where you aren't facing off against fucking 24 and Dancing With the Stars. The show is nerd fun and action for the guys (and StraHOTski) and it has the romance and Zach Levi for the ladies. I'm honestly baffled as to why AICN doesn't cover CHUCK the way they cover HEROES because each show is practically 100% nerd driven in one facet or the other. The fact that CHUCK invades talkbacks for LOST and HEROES and 24 should speak volumes to Harry and whoever runs this thing. Give Chuck a talkback once, JUST ONCE, and see how many people talk about it. NBC...at least give the show Season 3. You'll know by halfway if the show is going to succeed any further, and then you can tell the writers to wrap it up. It would be a pity to see all the fun and the recent storylines with Bakula all go to waste. If you cancel it, at least let some other station pick that show up. GOOOOODD DAMN YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU :)
One of the problems with Kings... by Mindtrip	Apr 20th, 2009 07:10:43 PM
...is by not stating WHY there are kings and if this is an alternate Earth or something else. Now, I like it and was quite pissed off to find that I missed an episode, but I can't help but find myself distracted wondering what set up the premise. Is this America? Are the continents the same? Is it even Earth? Maybe these aren't necessary to know, but I know a couple of people who stopped watching after the first ep because they didn't understand the reason behind there being a king. But... this series has great promise and there are a lot of questions I have that I hope the show lasts long enough to answer.
Turd by The Bicycle Sharer	Apr 20th, 2009 07:11:02 PM
I couldn't agree more about Life. Mind you, first season was WAY better, but second season was still good. Seems to me that they had no idea where to go in the second season with the conspiracy, but it still beat the shit out of most everything on tv. I'll sincerely miss Life and T:TSCC. Kinda miss Chuck and Reaper. Maybe Dollhouse. But at least I've still Lost for, what, one more season? Fuck, I hate Fox.
damn it! by Nizzuts	Apr 20th, 2009 07:11:48 PM
3 of the 4 shows I watch are unlikely to return? That sucks ass. At least I'll have Lost for a couple months a year. I can't believe they are going to keep southland, but ditch Life. I think Life is one of the better cop shows on. Oh well...what the fuck do I know. I think I'm most pissed about Reaper. I think that is one of the hidden gems on TV. I'll really miss it if it goes.
And how the FUCK by The Bicycle Sharer	Apr 20th, 2009 07:13:44 PM
Is Terminator canceled, but Dollhouse continues?!?!?! I say that as a LONG time Whedon fan. Dollhouse, as someone noted, is by far the least engaging of any Whedon show to date (and I include fucking Roseanne in that). I watch every week in hopes of improvement and end every Friday with "meh."
"Medium" will be back by The Bicycle Sharer	Apr 20th, 2009 07:16:10 PM
It will, of course, be called "Extra Large" (see Arquette's girth). I kid. I kid. Although the chick that the show is based on iskinda hot. Not big, though.
Speaking of Reaper by The Bicycle Sharer	Apr 20th, 2009 07:18:11 PM
Did anybody catch Ray Wise as the Devil commenting on that country-ass town a couple of eps ago? He said that it was like "a David Lynch movie." I fucking laughed my ass off as I always pretend that the Devil on Reaper has chosen to appear as Leland Palmer.
Bicycle Sharer: Yeah, that was great by chrth	Apr 20th, 2009 07:20:05 PM
I think I had tears in my eyes
AICN not covering Chuck by Miyamoto_Musashi	Apr 20th, 2009 07:45:26 PM
Baffled on this one too, can only assume that Herc only covers shows he loves or has a connection with the writer/producer/director etc. There is obviously some people whose shows will be covered based on past glory, i.e. Whedon. I have no doubt that if Whedon produced a show that showed a blank white screen for 40 minutes each week, Herc would promote...I mean comment on it.
What do GM and NBC have in common? by maximillian41	Apr 20th, 2009 07:45:42 PM
They both can manage to shoot themselves in the head and foot at the same time. I wonder how long it will be before we end up bailing out the networks with taxpayer money because they are too stupid to produce quality products that people actually want? If they do stumble on a quality product, the execs shitcan it as fast as possible and give themselves a raise. It's interesting how the BBC can produce higher quality shows with a fraction of the budget and, horror of horrors, they actually support quality programs without Neilson Ratings telling them what to think. Maybe BBC execs actually watch televsion.
Further - re Lost by Miyamoto_Musashi	Apr 20th, 2009 07:48:07 PM
I get the feeling that if it wasn't for TB rage, there wouldn't be a Lost TB anymore either. It appears that Herc doesn't get any advanced screening and as many have commented the TB for Lost is now going up much later than previous seasons.
by theoldgunslinger	Apr 20th, 2009 07:59:07 PM
Do any of you actually know how nielsen gets their numbers? Do you know what percentage of people have the special nielsen box. Do you know how one is selected to be a ratings representative. Do you know the percentage of people who just leave their tv on all the time to one channel. Of course you dont.
Chuck should be saved by veritasses	Apr 20th, 2009 08:06:49 PM
It's a great mix of charm, action, comedy, romance, nerd and various other genre spoofing, silliness, charm and well... heartwarming charm. Likable characters, predictable but entertaining stories, all-round solid, quality work from the entire cast and crew and no real weaknesses. It's actually a pretty remarkable achievement. It deserves a better night and lineup.
LOL - Herc promoting Whedon show by The Bicycle Sharer	Apr 20th, 2009 08:33:09 PM
"Guys, Joss Whedon's 'White Screen' is possibly the greatest hour of television ever produced in the history of the medium. In fact, 'White Screen' may well be the greatest piece of fiction in the history of the English language. Joss has completely captured the unique banality of our insipid existence." I kid. I kid. I love Angel (and Buffy and Firefly), but I definitely feel the pain of those who feel that many damned fine hours of tv are neglected while even Joss Whedon's most malodorous flatulence is endlessly parsed and praised.
Joss Whedon's 'White Screen' by maximillian41	Apr 20th, 2009 08:40:21 PM
I love his shows but overall does anyone else get the feeling that we're moving toward that scene in "Idiocracy" where 500 years in the future the current blockbuster movie is called "Ass". The entire movie, "Ass", is just that, a movie of a guys ass that occasionally farts.
Mindtrip by johnnyangel	Apr 20th, 2009 08:43:56 PM
A couple of weeks ago on Kings, when David's brother was committing treason, they showed a map of the kingdom and surrounding countries. Didn't look like any part of Earth that I know of. Pure fantasy.
Bibcyle Sharer - Great Herc by Miyamoto_Musashi	Apr 20th, 2009 09:04:18 PM

CHUCK was awesome tonight by HorrorFan81	Apr 20th, 2009 09:11:24 PM
And next week's finale looks to be pretty fucking sweet as well.
Tip to shows like Chuck and Pushing Daisies on how not to get ca by Delz	Apr 20th, 2009 09:18:07 PM
Don't make your main character a pussy. Jesus, the best episodes are the ones where Chuck (or Ned)sacked up and did something. Sadly it seems like 2 out of every three episodes involve the protagonist doing his best Paul Lynde impersonation.
How not to get cancelled. by Delz	Apr 20th, 2009 09:19:20 PM
Dammit, tell me when I'm running out of characters!
DOLLHOUSE MUST LIVE by reflecto	Apr 20th, 2009 09:29:14 PM
It's a difficult, disturbing, challenging, relatively non-fanservice-y show for people who wanted more of the same from Whedon. I love it.
ALSO UNUSALS, AND MAYBE CASTLE FOR SHITS AND GIGGLES by reflecto	Apr 20th, 2009 09:34:48 PM
The Unusuals is actually good, and fun, a cut above all the other mediocre primetime procedurals. You can't assemble that great cast anywhere else. Castle OTOH is a mediocre procedural, and I think the lady cop may be a robot, but Fillion and the jokes are pretty funny. It's nice fluff.
Heroes - most disappointing show, post 1st season by Miyamoto_Musashi	Apr 20th, 2009 09:47:29 PM
For me Heroes is the most disappointing show post season 1, in recent years. A show that seemed to be so fun and entertaining, became such a convuluted mess. Shows like Supernatural on the other hand have got much better since season 1, found some real direction. Are there other shows out there where people have been so disappointed in what they have seen after season 1 or alternatively where it has improved ?
Hm. by xsi kal	Apr 20th, 2009 09:50:31 PM
Shows I watch that are likely to return: How I met your Mother Shows I watch unlikely to return: Reaper Life Terminator Shows I watch that are 50/50: Castle Chuck Dollhouse Network shows I watch NOT on this list: None. Yay for fucking network television!
Please kill dollhouse.. by ulcer	Apr 20th, 2009 10:04:38 PM
.. and save TSCC. You're about to get a bump from the terminator movies.
Chuck kicked major ass this week by Bramton1	Apr 20th, 2009 10:11:11 PM
Tonight's episode and next week's line up with House taking two weeks off. Hopefully the ratings get a boost and NBC notices.
The Whedonites must be screaming loudly. by AnnoyYou	Apr 20th, 2009 10:33:05 PM
Why is Dollhouse "fifty-fifty?" It sucks! It's certainly worse than Chuck or Reaper. The Whedon faithful must be threatening to commit hari-kiri in front of the Fox corporate offices, otherwise it would be as gone as SCC (anothing bad, deservedly canceled series).
To all the Unit fans... by Rogue4	Apr 20th, 2009 10:34:55 PM
... at this point I think its just as well that it get the axe. For 3 seasons it was without a doubt one of televisions best. But this current season, to my mind, not only the network execs but the show's very creators did everything in their power to kill it. If it wasn't the ridiculous Sunday time slot constantly pushed back by football games and pre-empted by whatever lame hallmark movie of the week or awards show, than it was the staggering drop in the quality of the writing. For me the tipping point was the ridiculous cop out non-resolution of the col Ryan/Tiffy affair. A fist fight and everyones pals again, WoW. To me this season has yielded a total of about 4 solid episodes. In its current state there just won't be much to miss.
johnnyangel by Mindtrip	Apr 20th, 2009 11:38:42 PM
Thanks, I must have missed that.
The Only Reason I Still Watch Network TV by DookieMercury	Apr 20th, 2009 11:40:35 PM
Castle, Unusuals different takes on the cop show old but decent. Dollhouse, I guess its the mystery aspect series tv that is compelling is rare. Put it to you like this without dollhouse theres Heroes. Anything on CW isn't worth mentioning until they get their shit together. I mean you house the biggest distributors of television show and you give me fucking Gossip Girl and remakes of 90210 and Melrose Place? Granted they have Reaper which is like a supernatural Chuck. But to watch continual girl baiting dreck every day without anything interesting you wonder why these jackasses are dumbfound in their continuing floundering. Wake me when they get better show then I'll come back, CW = motherfuckers.
Chuck... by aversiontherapy2	Apr 21st, 2009 12:10:54 AM
Having Yvonne walk around in her underwear might help ratings somewhat, I'm going to wear out my dvr watching it...
BETTER OFF TED better be back by zillabeast	Apr 21st, 2009 12:11:50 AM
Great characters, great comedy. A worthy save for ABC should they chose to do so.
Kings by watch_the_world_burn	Apr 21st, 2009 12:24:25 AM
The those confused by the setting, Kings is a modern day re-telling of the Story of David from the Old Testament. Names and places are taken directly from the Bible. McShane is based on Saul, the kingdom is ancient Israel (Shiloh was the ancient religous capital) etc. Not sure on the map accuracy, or if they bother - I doubt the average American would recognise the political borders of the ancient Middle East. Thought it was pretty obvious from the start though, what with David vs Goliath and the "crown of butterflies" stuff in the first episode.
ABC Family & Reaper by Don Lockwood	Apr 21st, 2009 12:26:02 AM
I wouldn't put money on it. They canceled the vastly superior The Middleman. There's no way in hell (ha!) that they'll pick up Reaper. I'd like to see Terminator continue especially considering the spectacular finale. I love HIMYM and I've been getting a kick out of Better Off Ted. Oh, and those of you saying that Nielson is outdated? TiVo agrees with you and that's why they're starting their own ratings service.
WTF -- Pushing Daisies versus Ugly Betty by Big Dumb Ape	Apr 21st, 2009 12:39:09 AM
What the fuck? ABC punts Pushing Daisies and yet Ugly Betty is likely to return? Seriously, who the hell makes these kinds of decisions? Or more to the point, who the fuck watches such utter shit TV? I must be living a country filled with Romero-like zombies if people are actually tuning into Ugly Betty still. I swear, if ever there was proof that the Nielsens are totally out of date and out of touch and there desperately needs to be a COMPLETELY REVAMPED system for determining actual viewership, it's the fact that a fun, original and truly great show like Pushing Daisies is gone and we'll now miss out on a total cutie like Kristen Chenoweth, yet America Ferrera's ugly fat ass will be back on TV for yet another year!
Very enjoyable thread to read... by DanielKurland	Apr 21st, 2009 12:39:56 AM
Just nice to see passion towards television. Hell, more often than not, the brilliant shows I get into get canceled, but isn't it fun rooting for these underdogs, and sometimes seeing them succeed?
Dear Programming Execs: GET A CLUE! by Big Dumb Ape	Apr 21st, 2009 12:49:40 AM
You know, if SO many shows are failing and if SO many things are facing the knife, once again I just wish these lame-brained TV execs would use the summer to run UNAIRED PILOTS they're just sitting on...that they actually have ALREADY PAID FOR AND SHOT...to test the waters and to see what people might REALLY get excited over. Seriously, if you have so many shows shitting up the airwaves, why can't I finally see the unaired Warren Ellis GLOBAL FREQUENCY pilot? For the MILLIONS of dollars that were spent on it, why can't I finally see John Woo's (John Woo!!!) LOST IN SPACE pilot that the WB passed on? NOTE TO TV EXECS -- get your heads out of your asses and show some of these pilots. Little history lesson for you: CBS was going to bury MAGNUM: PI because they didn't think it was good enough, but then Lucas and Spielberg came knocking to use Tom Selleck for RAIDERS. That is what finally got CBS to say "Gee, maybe they know something that we don't and we should actually air this thing and see how it goes." I'll tell you how it went: the fucking pilot that CBS almost buried resulted in 8 years of primetime success and millions of dollars. So get your heads out of your asses already. The summer is coming when you'll just give us reruns anyway. So if you're going to bag so much of the dreck you have been showing, use that time to take a few chances!
Ugly Betty by Series7	Apr 21st, 2009 01:26:09 AM
I thought it was already canceled?
Medium Sucks by Series7	Apr 21st, 2009 01:26:32 AM
Who fucking watches that?
Life sucks by Series7	Apr 21st, 2009 01:27:19 AM
Gave up after that terrible Prince of Persia montage. Cupid sucks without Piven. And Reaper just isn't that good. It was ok at first now its just meh.
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles by Series7	Apr 21st, 2009 01:28:24 AM
Thank god now I can have my Friday's back. Why I watched that show is beyond me. It just just awful, someone needs to give Summer a much better movie. Maybe a mistaken twin identity or sister movie with Christian Ricci?
I don't get TV numbers by moviemenace	Apr 21st, 2009 01:53:08 AM
I was scanning the newspaper last week and was surprised to see "Reaper" pulls in bigger numbers than both 90210 and Gossip Girls. None of those shows ratings are good but Reaper outperformed both of them by a marginal number. So why does the rarely promoted Reaper get axed and those heavily promoted other shows get to stick around?
Chuck is probably the most entertaining show on TV. by UMAGA	Apr 21st, 2009 02:45:30 AM
It actually makes me laugh every week and I can't say that about much TV these days. I honesty love everything about the show. Well..except everyone's always fucking down on Buy More employees. We can't all be doctors, Awesome. Awesome rules anyway.
This may be the last season of scripted television... by Bones	Apr 21st, 2009 03:39:05 AM
Seriously. Think about how many shows are on that are actually cool, well-written and interesting. Now think about how many crappy, bottom-feeding so-called "Reality" television shows are on the air. Now, think about the ratings--and which shows are in danger of being cancelled. I basically refuse to watch new TV at this point. What would be the point? It is all cancelled before they finish their stories. If everyone who made a new show thought that their initial order of episodes was the entire run, told a complete story but kept enough ideas that it could continue (just in case)--then people would want to buy the series on DVD, so they could watch a complete story. The return of the Mini-Series. You heard it here first.
All of these shows are horrid and should be canned. by Pagliacci	Apr 21st, 2009 03:42:30 AM
Seriously, if you enjoy any of these, you're an idiot. Please stop using oxygen. At the moment, there are zero, none, nada decent dramas on television. And only The Office and Eastbound & Down are truly stellar comedies. Television has been devoid of good dramas since The Sopranos and Deadwood.
moviemenace: Because Reaper draws an older audience... by Prof. Pop-Cult	Apr 21st, 2009 05:41:04 AM
Gossip Girls and 90210 draw a younger and larger female audience. That's the demographic that The CW wants because it's the niche they're cultivating towards advertisers. It doesn't matter that Reaper draws higher ratings, because companies that want to advertise on The CW don't care to sell to that show's audience.
Zero? Yeah, whatever. by The McPoyle Clan	Apr 21st, 2009 05:56:44 AM
Wake up and tune to AMC on Sunday nights at 10. Breaking Bad is kicking all kinds of ass.
And the Lost TBs by The McPoyle Clan	Apr 21st, 2009 06:00:41 AM
are probably purposely delayed to minimize the chances of another spoiler fiasco like when the flash forwards were leaked.
Shame by freekydeeky	Apr 21st, 2009 06:21:35 AM
about Chuck, that Agent Walker has a nice rack. Just saying.
theoldgunslinger by ErecT	Apr 21st, 2009 07:13:18 AM
What do you want to know about Nielsen and the numbers? As I mentioned earlier, I work in there technology center where the numbers originate, so ask away.
die mentalist! by pikagreg	Apr 21st, 2009 08:30:44 AM
ripoff assholes
ErecT by pikagreg	Apr 21st, 2009 08:41:48 AM
I just finished doing a weeklong "television journal" for Nielson. Do those get used for the numbers at all?
Chuck is awesome by STLost	Apr 21st, 2009 09:09:37 AM
What an awesome episode leading up to the season finale. Yes, I said season finale because I think it will be back. I love the new burden of responsibility on Captain Awesome's shoulders, now that he knows Chuck is a spy. "I need you to be.......awesome."
pikagreg by ErecT	Apr 21st, 2009 09:16:58 AM
The journals are supposed to get used, but they are factored in after the equation since national overnights are based solely on the Nielsen boxes (as I mentioned earlier, those boxes are in roughly 60% of Nielsen homes). The diaries work like this: those instant numbers we all see...those are form the boxes, the diaries are used to help stations determine profitable time slots for ad revenue...it gives a more complete picture of the demographic, but they really aren't used for ratings info. It'sas archaic as it sounds. We have a room with a bunch of brown legal type boxes filled with those diaries broken down by zip code. When a local station is visiting, some of their staff will go into a designated client room and review the journals. Having sat in those sessions, I cna tell you no one cares about the ratings info, it's solely demo info, who's watching what at what time and how much can they now justify charging for time during a particular program.
How I Met Your Mother is awful by Juemad	Apr 21st, 2009 09:21:24 AM
I give every comedy a try and I've watched it twice and never laughed. The lead guy looks like a woman in drag, the girl is bland, I'm so sick of Jason Segal (is that his name?) popping up in comedies when he is so unfunny. The only saving grace is Neil Patrick Harris. If he had a spinoff I'd probably watch. CBS comedies are cookie cutter and lack innovation. NBC may be at the bottom, but at least their comedies are fresh.
Is there anything worth watching then? by Mooly	Apr 21st, 2009 09:29:09 AM
The vast majority of TV shows I've watched last season and recently are NEW shows. Better of Ted is hillarious, Pushing Daisies got axed, Dirty Sexy MOney got axed (but deserved it after retooling the second season), My Own Worst Enemy - axed, Dollhouse (which I've been a strong supporter and fan) supposedly 50/50 but they won't air the final episode, Chuck has been solid since day 1 and may get axed...I've only seen a couple eps of Castle, but it may also get axed. I've been watching Cupid, and was a HUGE fan of the original, but this new version stinks and feel like after-school-special compared to the original. Meanwhile, I've stopped watching 24, stopped watching heroes, stopped Desperate Housewives long ago, the same with Grey's Anatomy (hated it since it became the Lizzy & George show). Lost is still great, but there is only one more season. I guess there is still House? Might as well cancel all my cable and just get Showtime so I can watch weeds, californication and dexter. At least then I'd only have a TV bill for 3 months out of the year. Networks...get your shit together. If you continue NOT giving new shows a proper chance you will continue losing viewers to the internet. This is just getting fucking sad now. Is there a single NEW show in a couple years that has stuck around? Networks need to pull their heads out of their asses and understand this isn't 5 or 10 years ago. They aren't going to get 20 million viewers for every show. There are way more channels to watch, they are competing against HBO and Showtime and other premium channels, there is DVR and Internet which tons of people use but isn't counted in the ratings. Hell, my parents got DVR long before I did and haven't watched live TV in a long time. They tape everything and watch when they want. I also rarely watch scheduled TV anymore since I got DVR. TV is going to go the way of the music companies if they don't come back to earth and get a little more realistic about their ratings chances as reported by Nielson.
DO NOT CANCEL REAPER!!!!! by Cletus Van Damme	Apr 21st, 2009 10:24:01 AM
It literally JUST came back, now it's canceled already? It's better than 90% of the tripe out there, DO NOT CANCEL THIS ONE!!!!!!!!
Why did Chuck need to get a condom to fuck Sarah? by Leafar the Lost	Apr 21st, 2009 11:02:01 AM
Chuck woke up, there was Sarah right next to him willing to fuck, and the first thing he does is run into the bathroom to get a condom, but his friend had replaced it with a note. What the fuck?! Sarah did not ask him to put on a condom. She knew that Chuck didn't have any diseases, because she was watching him 24 hours a day. Did Chuck really think that Sarah had AIDS or something? She would have stopped him if that were the case, because part of her job was to protect him. The only thing that Chuck had to worry about was getting her pregnant, and that is what the Morning After pill is for you motherfucking idiot!!! The only reason that the condom hunt was put into the script was to make some kind of political statement. Yes, we get it, always use a condom, but Chuck had the chance to fuck a blond goddess. I know its just a TV show, but it still pissed me off. Jesus Christ (Yes?) Yvonne Strahovski is hot! I hope they cancel "Chuck" just because of that scene.
I liked Kings, I just don't watch it by CherryValance	Apr 21st, 2009 12:05:52 PM
it's one of those things where you need to pay attention and I can't really pay attention to any new shows right now. I was hoping to watch the whole thing on DVD. I didn't know it was doing badly. Whoops. I watched a couple episodes of "Crusoe" looking for Sean Bean. That show was fairly stupid but that lead guy was really hot. It seems like a lot of these shows get everything right except for the actual writing. "Castle" I've been 1/2 watching, guess why, but it's dialogue is trying to be romantic comedy snappy and I don't really understand who the people are that fall for that junk. But then again I don't watch that Housewives crap, so maybe that's who they're going after. Do they count how many people watch these things online or are they still going by Neilsen families?
condom was a political statement? by palooka_boy	Apr 21st, 2009 12:12:10 PM
or a plot device? you decide.
Uh, the condom was a political statement and a plot device... by Leafar the Lost	Apr 21st, 2009 12:16:33 PM
...to keep Chuck and Sarah apart until the end of the series, which will probably be in a few weeks.
Leafar by Toonol	Apr 21st, 2009 12:19:56 PM
Some of us simply use a condom routinely, even though we're disease-free and are 99% sure whoever we're with is. And believe it or not, you're better off not popping the morning-after pill every time you have sex. So, although it wasn't a political statement, it was a clunky plot device (as palooka_boy suggests).
Big Dumb Ape - NBC Tried Running a Pilot That Wasn't Picked Up O by The Gipper	Apr 21st, 2009 01:55:54 PM
NBC tried running a pilot that wasn't picked up once during the summer. It was some show called "Seinfeld." http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0 ,,20202819_20202832_1200145_1, 00.html Seinfeld PREMIERED May 31, 1990 THE SCOOP Note to current and future network TV execs: Sometimes it pays to bet on an oddball (even if you're not quite willing to premiere it during the regular TV season). Of course, this particular bet took a while to pay off. NBC aired comedian Jerry Seinfeld's sitcom pilot — titled The Seinfeld Chronicles — as a one-time special in the summer of 1989, then gave the series a mere four airings in 1990. That tiny investment of airtime eventually yielded huge ratings dividends. Seinfeld not only went on to become a cornerstone of NBC's must-see Thursday lineup, but it also left a lasting mark on the pop-culture lexicon, introducing the world to such Seinfeld-ian terms as sponge-worthy, puffy shirt, ''serenity now,'' the manssiere, Sack Lunch, and, of course, yadda, yadda, yadda.
Stopped watching Chuck... by Kid Z	Apr 21st, 2009 02:58:20 PM
...when the blonde spy chick stopped working at the restaurant with the St. Pauli Girl waitress uniforms... and because I realized the Asian Emo chick was really sort of fugly.
moviemenace... by Kid Z	Apr 21st, 2009 03:06:10 PM
...the nets are also out to get the female demographic because that's the politically-correct, trendy thing to do now. I'm sorry, but most women basically have the worst taste imaginable when it comes to drama, art, pop culture, film, music, etc., etc. (I know this sounds misogynistic, wish it wasn't true, but it is) Women are programmed at an early age to go along with the lowest common denominator in order to be "popular". (Can't blame them for going along, either... as a man, I never had to deal with the viciousness of "the mean girls" so I really can't blame them) Bottom line... your girlfriend (and everyone else's) has destroyed TV!
chuck sux by slkboxrman	Apr 21st, 2009 03:26:12 PM
Its popular because their are masturbatable women on the show, and it gives hope to all u nerds that u 2 might score with anything even close to that...other than that its a mess of a show that will hopefully get canned. And to post on this board that chuck should hav just had sex without a condom just proves how dumb some of u are when it comes to sex and why there are so many fatherless babies in the world.... hopefully LIFE and Terminator will b back, both excellent shows, Eleventh Hour as well...also just cuz a show isn't on the list don't mean its not coming back or not..
CHUCK Versus The Colonel was badass by Razorback	Apr 21st, 2009 04:13:02 PM
One of the best episodes OF ALL TIME. And did AICN cover it? Nope. Anyway, check out this link for 50 seconds of why CHUCK rules: http://tinyurl.com/czj5uf
Sweet relief by DirkAngerReloaded23	Apr 21st, 2009 04:17:30 PM
The only postitives to Chuck & Kings being cancelled, along with Reaper, is that it finally eliminates the need for me to watch ANYTHING on NBC or CW, outside of Smallville. Knockin off networks man, gotta love it, cause that means more summer beach time for me. Yay.
Programs That Should Disappear or Needed a Changed Premise by Karuma	Apr 21st, 2009 05:17:05 PM
The Amazing Race-huge numbers, horrible concept, poorly shot and edited. 90210-7 people watch this show, which is good for the CW, but not for a real network. Privileged-Started well enough but soon bogged down into the lesson of the week. HIMYM-Never very good, over acted and way too needy. Dancing With The Stars-Horrible and apparently cursed. The Biggest Loser-pure exploitation and not in a good way. Private Practice-Bad high school drama. Too bad it's about 30 somethings in a doctor's office. It might make a decent teen comedy. The Hills-Idiotic Kath and Kim-Great writing but the acting is horrendous. Hell's Kitchen-Who cares? America's Next Top Model-America's Next 15 Minutes of Fame, nothing more American Dad, King of the Hill-when were these ever funny? CSI:Miami-Poorly written and executed. Horrible acting. In The Motherhood-How did this show ever get a green light? Wife Swap-Just stupid. Changed Premise Kings-Should have been about the King of America with another country west of the Mississippi called the Republic of Texas or California. Knight Rider-Single guy linked mentally to the car he developed. Episodes are stand alone. Similar to Viper. Hiding out from those who want to steal his technology. Cupid-More magic My Own Worst Enemy-Speed up!!Tell a story for once. Terminator-Should have left out the teen age angst routine. That episodic arc sealed it's doom.
I love Kings! by I Hope You Die	Apr 21st, 2009 06:58:04 PM
Is it going to live out its full 13 episode run? I always assumed it was a miniseries and wouldn't be renewed since David will be king and nobody wants to watch that.
"Yes, they deserved to die and I hope they burn in hell!" by Leafar the Lost	Apr 21st, 2009 08:56:05 PM

I Hope You Die by Johnny Smith	Apr 21st, 2009 09:36:58 PM
Kings was removed completely from NBC's schedule today. I am sad.
Johnny Smith by Pennsy	Apr 21st, 2009 10:20:24 PM
Kings will be back this summer: http://tinyurl.com/c45ydw. It returns June 18 and will end its run July 25.
Just cancel Dollhouse... by GaiustheBrave	Apr 21st, 2009 10:49:45 PM
Seriously, has Whedon done anything good beyond Firefly? I used to be a HUGE Buffy and Angel fan, but I decided to hit the dvd's again a few months back and I just realized what complete shit most of the episodes are. Terminator has to come back; it's finally hitting its stride and even the iffy eps aren't so bad when you watch them at leisure (i.e., you haven't been waiting all week for them). Besides, Summer Glau is hot! If they put her in tight leather pants every ep, ratings would soar (at least for the geek-boys' obligatory 3 minutes). As long as we get Lost (which we are!), Supernatural, TSCC and 30 Rock, the universe will be fine.
But hey by Series7	Apr 21st, 2009 11:19:18 PM
Two and Half men is coming back, right? OHHH I HOPE SO! That show is so funny. Almost as good as the George Lopez show or According to Jim. Luck for us Mr. King of the Stand Up George Lopez is getting his own late night TALK SHOW! COME ON HOW AWESOME IS THAT! Fucking Beverly Hills Chihuahua with his own late night talk show! Its going to be so good, like Chevy Chase good. Man Chevy needs to be a bad guy on some show, that'd be good.
Dollhouse by Series7	Apr 21st, 2009 11:20:34 PM
They always start off good, then about half way through they turn to suck. Last weeks episode was the first time the whole episode was actually pretty good.
The Lone "Knight Rider" fan walks in.... by Geomancer21	Apr 22nd, 2009 08:48:10 AM
Shakes his head, and walks out again.
Castle... by SunTzu77	Apr 22nd, 2009 10:30:27 AM
GREAT SHOW! I know I know... about the most enthusiastic I've ever been.
I love Chuck... by allykatD	Apr 22nd, 2009 12:26:35 PM
It's one of the few show my entire family sits down together to watch. It's funny, well written, quirky characters, funny and unique in a TV show land littered with glum and serious police procedurals. I'd like to see T:SCC and Castle stay too. Oh, and who the hell watches Ghost Whisperer and Numbers? Seriously.
I'll soon have no more TV to watch by _Maltheus_	Apr 22nd, 2009 12:47:15 PM
TSCC is great, my favorite network show after Lost. My third favorite is Kings. My former first favorite show was Pushing Daisies. I'm also a big Reaper and Chuck fan. And of course, I don't watch anything on the "Likely to Return" list. So fuck the suits up their stupid fucking asses. And fuck the people in this country for their bad tastes.
Kings just got postponed til the Summer by polyh3dron	Apr 22nd, 2009 01:02:03 PM
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Ki ngs-moved-summer-1005313.aspx
Last week's Chuck = Series Finale by Bill Clay	Apr 22nd, 2009 01:09:39 PM
Really, they tied up all loose ends and brought closure to the whole Chuck storyline. If they had ended the series with everyone heading off for the wedding rehearsal that would have been the perfect finale. Besides, next season's show will be unrecognizable if they do renew it for another year. They've ended the story. It would be a different show using the same characters. Nothing is worse than prolonging a show's demise by throwing the original premise out the window and trying to attract viewers with a different direction. Joanie loves Chachie? After-MASH? Ashes to Ashes?
Who am I kidding? by Keblar	Apr 22nd, 2009 03:33:25 PM
I've been done with network TV since Serenity got fumbled. LOST will be the only show left worth watching, and that's probably only because Abrams has so much Pull.
Castle is a very fun show by StrykerIsland	Apr 22nd, 2009 03:40:52 PM
My wife and I have enjoyed the hell out of Castle since it premiered a month or so ago. It's been ages since anything new came on TV that we actually enjoyed, here's hoping it's renewed.
Wow by Cory849	Apr 22nd, 2009 03:59:04 PM
I don't watch a single show on those lists. The internet and HBO/Showtime have killed Network Television.
Cable have the only good shows by romanocc	Apr 22nd, 2009 04:02:25 PM
I can't remember the last show I watched consistently on ABC, CBS, NBC, etc? Probably King of Queens or Raymond. The sitcom is dead, there are too many CSI's, and shows like Chuck are ridiculous. HBO, not as great as it used to be, still has shows like Curb and Entourage that are great. If they took away the basic channels from my TV lineup, I don't think I would miss them.
50% of My Weekly TV is on the line by AugustusGloop	Apr 22nd, 2009 04:10:27 PM
Geez! Cupid, Sarah Conner, Ted, Chuck, Castle, Dollhouse... Enjoying all of those. Dollhouse was slow to start, but it's gotten very intriguing. Chuck has been a winner from day 1. I didn't expect Sarah Conner to be good, but it has continued to improve, and this season was fantastic! Cupid needs more time to build an audience. Three episodes, and you're talking about cancelling it? ABC is learning from Fox, it would seem. I want Castle to succeed, just because Fillion really deserves a primetime spot. So, I'll be sad to see any of these go.
why NBC Sucks the P's cock by spiceybiscuit	Apr 22nd, 2009 04:17:15 PM
You put Jay Leno on at 10 and no one will watch his POS show and yet a show as good as Life might not make it??? Seriously, who is running that network?
THE UNIT?? by celebritydave	Apr 22nd, 2009 05:00:39 PM
FUCK!!!! good show. only upside is shawn ryan will create another cool show for me to watch. i still wanna see "Vic & Shane: The Early Years". watch as Vic starts to become corrupt. glorious!
chuck by wixmmm	Apr 22nd, 2009 08:37:31 PM
if you've actually been watching chuck, you would know that it has developed a larger mythology and has had an awesome story arc going for a while now. Some great shows start with very episodic/self contained episodes, while slowly building towards a great story arc about 1 1/2 seasons. Look at some of the best shows--supernatural, buffy, angel, (even firefly to a certain extent) smallville (granted, not one of the best shows on tv, but it has followed the same formula) alias, x-files, life, and more. With what chuck has been doing as far as the new story arc has made it one of the shows i really look foward to, instead of just a show i like. Fucking losers are so guick to hate on a show without having any idea whatsoever about what is going on in that show. Its pathetic. Inform yourself before you make judgements and call something crap that nobody should like. What are you people hoping to accomplish??? you think those of us who really like a given show will read your ignorant, lame ass post and suddenly realize the show we are enjoying so much sucks??? seriously, get a life.
Why, Oh Why????????? by BrannigansLaw	Apr 22nd, 2009 08:57:20 PM
I don't watch many shows, but wouldn't you know that the shows I DO watch would be in danger. This SUCKS!!!!! FTR... Chuck is good escapist entertainment. It never pretends to be anything other than what it is: a funny and sometimes sexy show that never takes itself too seriously. (BTW, nothing but love for Yvonne, but Chuck's sister (Sarah Lancaster) is the hottest!!!) I would say that LIFE is the best cop show on TV, but I don't watch any other cop shows consistently; none of the other shows have been able to hold my interest for more than a couple of eps. In contrast, LIFE is quirky without trying too hard (e.g. Unusuals), can be procedural without being too... procedural (e.g. Law & Order), and has a nice underlying conspiracy plot without becoming to tired and worn (e.g. many other conspiracy stories). Medium is a consistently good show that is suffering from the "Heroes curse"; any show that follows Heroes is likely to fail. This is because NBC sticks with Heroes because it captures a key demographic even though it does poorly, overall. There's nothing wrong with this strategy except that any other show that appeals to a different demographic will likely fail. This is what ultimately killed Journeyman. NBC would be better off grouping Journeyman and Medium in to a single block (maybe Sunday) and creating a Heroes spin-off to follow Heroes. It makes sense to double down on the key demographic... but, hey, what do I know... Better Off Ted is one hell of a funny show that more of you should be watching. If ABC would give this show a chance to find its audience they may actually have a hit on their hands. If these shows are canceled, I'll likely stop taking a chance on major network shows. I'll just stick to cable: Burn Notice, Leverage, and The Closer.
wixmm -> Chuck by BrannigansLaw	Apr 22nd, 2009 09:03:31 PM
Co-sign.
RE: Won't matter Keblar by Keblar	Apr 22nd, 2009 11:50:01 PM
" They'll likely treat that stuff like spam. Online petitions are worthless. Physical snail mail is always better. Voting with your dollar is the best way to voice your opinions. If the show already has seasons on DVD, buying them en masse will probably show your support for the show than some e-campaign." Okay, so what's a good physical to mail to at FOX then?
DAMN I WAS STARTING TO REALLY ENJOY! by ThaJackaL	Apr 23rd, 2009 01:43:57 AM
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles I HOPE YOUR WRONG, AND THEY BRING IT BACK THAT SHOW NEEDS TO CONTINUE. IT'S AWESOME...
AND THANKS CW FOR KEEPING SMALLVILLE! by ThaJackaL	Apr 23rd, 2009 01:44:58 AM
THAT SHOW STILL ROCKS! BEST SHOW ON THE CW BY FAR....
I haven't even heard of half these shows by Trazadone	Apr 23rd, 2009 08:18:07 AM
Cancel them all, who cares. Okay, keep How I Met Your Mother, that one is pretty damn funny. It boggles my mind that Smallville is still on! Isn't he Superman yet? What a borefest.

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