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Quint has seen JJ Abrams' STAR TREK!

first by pornogil	Apr 7th, 2009 02:09:41 AM

Hank McCoy?! by cool_britannia79	Apr 7th, 2009 02:11:38 AM
Leonard McCoy you numpty!
Yeah, that Abrams certainly can do PR and ad campaigns. by JackPumpkinhead	Apr 7th, 2009 02:13:27 AM
Too bad he can't make decent movies. Still, when promotional campaigns are incomparably better than the films they sell (see "Cloverfield"), it's interesting, too.
You lucky fuckers... by Cartagia	Apr 7th, 2009 02:13:57 AM
Though I can definitely agree that if I worked myself into a Khan mood, I'd still want to watch Khan.
Oh, the Jealousy that is me. by philldwill	Apr 7th, 2009 02:15:16 AM
Yeah, the title pretty much sums it up. I'm Jealous and there's nothing I can do to change that. I'm gonna go to sleep now and in my slumber I'll be creating a better Star Trek film than the one you saw so perhaps you will be jealous of me. Envy me, I demand it.
Bless you, Quint by zillabeast	Apr 7th, 2009 02:15:20 AM
You're one of the few men in this world I can rely on.
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN! (PS: FIRST) by Darth_Gonz	Apr 7th, 2009 02:15:40 AM
Is Captain Data really in this movie?
Everyone loved Cloverfield when they saw it the first night... by Bones	Apr 7th, 2009 02:15:41 AM
...Then the more they thought about it, the more the film fell apart. The same was true of Transformers and a dozen other films. I will wait to hear what people say when they are not all caught up in the emotion of seeing a film before everyone else.
damn it, Jim by JaviT	Apr 7th, 2009 02:17:33 AM
why didn't I go? but more importantly, is there any Shatner?
So, are the odd numbered films... by ErnestBorgNine	Apr 7th, 2009 02:18:11 AM
going to be the good ones now, instead of the even numbered ones?
Everyone loved The Dark Knight when they saw it too, Bones by critch	Apr 7th, 2009 02:18:19 AM
Then the more they thought about it, the more they saw it. And then you brought up Transformers, which was a surprise 300 million dollar blockbuster...and then was the highest selling dvd of the year. Just because the internet hated it, doesn't mean that the world hated it. Sorry haters, looks like you're wrong, as usual.
Great review, Quint... by critch	Apr 7th, 2009 02:18:41 AM
Do we see any of the 24th century? How is the music?
Man. That is the coolest. by CoursinLarry	Apr 7th, 2009 02:19:13 AM
I'm not a huge Trek fan, but I would have loved to have been there for this. I can't imagine what the energy must have been like.
Excellent Review!!! by Robnhud	Apr 7th, 2009 02:19:33 AM

Star Trek Countdown by _Palmer_Eldritch	Apr 7th, 2009 02:20:11 AM
Wow, sounds pretty good actually. Quint, did you read the Star Trek Countdown prequel comics? Do they fit in with the overall storyline of the movie? Are any events of the comics and/or Next Gen characters referred to?
First? by Zandunga	Apr 7th, 2009 02:21:08 AM
YES
It's Leonard McCoy! by lockesbrokenleg	Apr 7th, 2009 02:21:33 AM
He says it in the commercial. Damn
Drat by Zandunga	Apr 7th, 2009 02:21:46 AM
When I arrived, I was first....if only I had posted instead of reading Quint's review....sigh.
Sounds Great! by vettebro	Apr 7th, 2009 02:22:03 AM
I'm in!
How fat was the girl that was losing her shit? by GibsonUSA Returns	Apr 7th, 2009 02:23:23 AM
Your estimate, give or take 100 pounds?
wow by deanbarry	Apr 7th, 2009 02:24:51 AM
wow
Dammit, no Old Kirk?! by JustinSane	Apr 7th, 2009 02:25:57 AM
I really wanted to be right and that when the timeline was altered Old Kirk would appear at the end with Old Spock. Oh, well. Still looking forward to it!
spoiler on cameos by Kraken	Apr 7th, 2009 02:26:48 AM
no next gen, no Shatner.
I'm an idiot by Quint	Apr 7th, 2009 02:29:01 AM
Fixed it... Guess my X-Men upbringing got the better of me as I was furiously writing this. I know better, brain fart. I didn't read the comics leading up, but no Data and no Shatner. Giacchino's score is really good, but not as good as Goldsmith or Horner... The best was the end credits music.
At Last... by Grinning White Skull	Apr 7th, 2009 02:29:32 AM
All those years of ST movies done on less than big movie budgets with TV crews. Over. Thanks for this review, Quint. And especially a big thanks to Abrams, Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof. Live long and prosper...
QUINT SHOULD BE FIRED!!!!!!!!!!! by Playkins	Apr 7th, 2009 02:29:42 AM
He's seen it too early!!!! This is an early review!!!!! OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!
JackPumpkinhead. Movies? by Talkbacker with no name	Apr 7th, 2009 02:29:43 AM
He has only directed one you have seen - MI3
BUT WERE THERE KIRK-ROLLS???? by alice 13	Apr 7th, 2009 02:30:07 AM
and how about that star trek fighting music?
Does suspect they saw an "incomplete" cut of the film? by zillabeast	Apr 7th, 2009 02:30:22 AM
What I'm getting at is...what if they switcheroo is still in play? If the Supreme Court was clever enough to pull this stunt in Austin, what's to say there are not some surprises in store for May 8?
Not a rave review by CerebralAssassin	Apr 7th, 2009 02:31:15 AM
Must suck.
Yeah, what if what he actually saw was Terminator 4? by GibsonUSA Returns	Apr 7th, 2009 02:31:57 AM

No Next Gen by _Palmer_Eldritch	Apr 7th, 2009 02:32:00 AM
Sucks! I enjoyed the comics because they established the new movie firmly within a Next Gen context (even if the dialogue was downright awful at times). Oh well, I guess Nemesis will be the last time we see Picard onscreen. Doesn't he deserve as much of a swansong as Kirk got? I mean, the guy's not even fat and can actually ACT!
*meant to put "Does anyone who saw it" by zillabeast	Apr 7th, 2009 02:32:05 AM
In my earlier paranoid post.
Thanks Quint by critch	Apr 7th, 2009 02:33:45 AM
Ooooo...Did we get the original theme?
How convenient. Everything falls into place, by Orionsangels	Apr 7th, 2009 02:35:10 AM
Everything works, even when it doesn't work, the villian is no kahn and he's weak, but surprise. He doesn't have to be and i totally accept this alternate reality and I wouldn't mind seeing more of it. Did I mention the entire cast is awesome! You know why everything about this movie is awesome? Because we got Nimoy on stage and got to see Abram's ST early. How could I say anything negative about the movie? After all. One hand washes the other. Yes, Quint is actually promoting the movie, to change the naysayer's minds. Once it comes out and all the promoting is done. Will get the real reviews. Yeah that's right. I smell a plant!
This brings back memories of 6th grade. by GibsonUSA Returns	Apr 7th, 2009 02:35:58 AM
The kids in the class HATED the Next Generation. They treated them like wannabes...like new Ghostbusters or something. I remember the class used to draw "wars" on the chalkboard...one side the high and mighty original Trek squad, and on the other side the pussy-ass tiny Next Generation drawn about half the size with their little weak phasers. And the originals would be drawn obliterating the Next Generation. Memories...
Oh by Quint	Apr 7th, 2009 02:36:16 AM
And there's a fantastic injoke involving a guy wearing a red jumpsuit. heh Critch, you know it.
Giacchino not as good as Goldsmith!!!?????!!!!!!!!!!! by darthpigman	Apr 7th, 2009 02:36:33 AM
Quint, please think carefully. Are you able to hum Giacchino's theme right now? That is the ultimate test.
Quint... by vettebro	Apr 7th, 2009 02:36:50 AM
So what the hell is the smoke monster??? ;)
Who cares? by Motoko Kusanagi	Apr 7th, 2009 02:36:55 AM
A V A T A R December nothing else matters
But you CAN change the past in Trek by Raymar	Apr 7th, 2009 02:37:40 AM
So Wrath of Khan and everything else is void.
That's all I need to know. by critch	Apr 7th, 2009 02:38:16 AM
Thank you for answering quickly Quint. I cannot be more excited.
Planteriffic... by armando	Apr 7th, 2009 02:39:06 AM

just playing... by armando	Apr 7th, 2009 02:39:38 AM
This movie looks awsome..
Orions by Quint	Apr 7th, 2009 02:39:48 AM
You're wrong about this one. That might have been the hope of the studio in arranging this screening, but I am telling you my honest thoughts. You're exaggerating my review to make it out like I'm giving it a pass, but I'm not. There are troubles, I highlight them, but none of them derailed my enjoyment of the movie... not because the studio asked me to or demanded it. I had no idea I was seeing this tonight. These are my thoughts and I stand by them.
To Orci, Kurtzman, Lindelof- get TREK back to exploration by YackBacker	Apr 7th, 2009 02:39:53 AM
We've seen the villain stuff done pretty much to death. I hope you can somehow get the crew into a plot that forces them to solve a problem with ingenuity and teamwork that doesn't involve some badass villain. Think of something mixing the grandeur of STAR TREK: TMP and the humanity and humor of STAR TREK IV. If you can pull that off, you will have a truly groundbreaking and true-to-TREK show on your hands.
like I was saying in the other talkback by Kraken	Apr 7th, 2009 02:39:56 AM
Karl Urban really does deserve the "heart" award for this movie. His performance as Bones really stands out. All the new cast was solid, but Urban steals every scene he's in. Note to writers, more Bones in Trek 2 please.
Hey Quint, settle this little internet debate about the new Ente by zillabeast	Apr 7th, 2009 02:40:45 AM
The little caps on the ends of the engines...what color do they glow? Red? Blue? Dark with blue spots?
Anyone catch fast and furious 4? by armando	Apr 7th, 2009 02:41:57 AM
Vin Diesel pretty much plays a comic book superhero in this version.. He is Psychic, impervious to bullets, and can hold an 1,000 pound engine with one hand... crazy huh?
QUINT HAS THE WORLD'S FIRST REVIEW OF STAR TREK! by Mister McClane	Apr 7th, 2009 02:42:08 AM
Now THAT'S why I come to this site. Great review Quint, I skipped bits as I'm avoiding as much plot as possible. But I get the idea. Great movie, not perfect, but gonna be a crowd-pleaser. What says Harry?
darth by Quint	Apr 7th, 2009 02:43:00 AM
Yes, I can, but it's because it's the original theme song. heh Other than that, I couldn't hum anything from memory.
Music? by Mister McClane	Apr 7th, 2009 02:43:36 AM
Read a good point, any classic themes in the movie at all...?
Music by Mister McClane	Apr 7th, 2009 02:44:07 AM
Fast, ha, ha. Question answered.
Seeing this at film festival next week by V'Shael	Apr 7th, 2009 02:44:21 AM
Though I imagine it won't compare to the experience above. Nimoy is a class dude. So I assume then that there's no post-credits coda showing that old Kirk is alive in an altered timeline? From what you describe, this seems to be more of an alternate universe kind of deal.
Oh MY GOD QUINT!!!!!! by darthpigman	Apr 7th, 2009 02:44:35 AM
Giacchino composed his own original theme and all you can remember is the original theme song from the end credits! Giacchino's score is a failure!!!!!!
Now I want to see a reboot by armando	Apr 7th, 2009 02:45:59 AM
of the TNG crew.. Recast Picard as the young man we never saw being a badass... Lets see a young Riker banging every chick he meets.. The possabilites are endless...
The reason everyone loved Cloverfield on opening night by smackfu	Apr 7th, 2009 02:47:09 AM
Is because they were caught off guard and surprised. The kid inside them briefly awakened, suppressing their sad adulthood need to prove how cool their are by criticizing everything in the world. Once the initial thrill wore off, they were able to settle back into their more practiced rut of douchebaggery.
Spoilers on the fate of Spock Prime and Vulcan? by Supervisor194	Apr 7th, 2009 02:48:52 AM
Any chance we'll see either of them in future films?
That's like going in for a handshake with Megan Fox... by Jackson Healy	Apr 7th, 2009 02:49:48 AM
...and getting a blowjob instead! You lucky shit!
Oh, and this movie sucks by smackfu	Apr 7th, 2009 02:50:48 AM
The directing sucks, the actors suck, Chris Pine and Sylar are so yesterday. I could have done the special effects so much better. The sad part is, if I just came out and told you all how cool and all around awesome I am, you would immediately get defensive and take the opposite stance. It would be a lot less work if you would just take my word for it, because all this complaining is a full time job.
The score by Kraken	Apr 7th, 2009 02:53:24 AM
I have to say it was one of the things that disappointed me. I really loved the movie... but the "in story" score felt, adequate. The problem is, I've always felt the score was in essence the Enterprise's voice. Sadly this score never gives Enterprise her moment to shine like the previous films do. Oh, she has her moments... but nothing truly iconic. One of the very few flaws in an overall fantastic movie.
This shows they are rather confident in their movie by YackBacker	Apr 7th, 2009 02:54:18 AM
To leak it out a month in advance means they know they've got a winner. While I think it's a little cocky of them to show it off this early, they've managed to generate the buzz they were looking for on the internet.
Kraken, how bad was the score? by darthpigman	Apr 7th, 2009 02:54:37 AM
Can you remember the main theme? Any theme at all? How does it compare to Goldsmith, Horner, Rosenman, et al?
Yeah, thats some pretty frakking cool news right there by Col. Tigh-Fighter	Apr 7th, 2009 02:55:00 AM
Stoked, I am!
Kraken- how does the Enterprise look? by YackBacker	Apr 7th, 2009 02:56:10 AM
Does it look "right" if you know what I mean? Or was it distracting to see the weird differences from prior TOS versions?
re:darthpigman by Kraken	Apr 7th, 2009 02:57:44 AM
There is no comparison for me. I think Horner's score for Wrath Of Kahn is one of the best movie scores laid down. That said, Giacchino is a very strong composer and did a fine job scoring the movie... but none of it is iconic. Just solid. The end credits are a tribute to the original themes though. I wish they'd used more of the original notes in some of the main score for the film. But I don't think it hurts the movie, the score is still a "good" movie score. The only times it feels pff is during the hero shots of the Enterprise. They feel a little flat because of the new score.
So--are we going to get Spoilers? by Bones	Apr 7th, 2009 02:59:35 AM
Or will they be deleted? I need to know more before May 8.
I want to talk more about the score :-p by critch	Apr 7th, 2009 03:00:37 AM
Glad we get original themes...Are there hints of anything from Horner or the other composers? CANNOT. WAIT.
re: look of Enterprise by Kraken	Apr 7th, 2009 03:01:21 AM
Enterprise was great looking. This comes from someone that has a NCC 1701-A model I painted when I was 14 sitting on my desk. The only issue I have is when you see it in space for the first time... they just kind of cut to it. No slow loving reveal... just, oh, look at that, there it is. The cut they choose to use in the first reveal suffers from a lack of scale and awe, just bam, full side view. But the movie makes up for that later when the Enterprise gets to kick ass and really shine. So fear not, she looks right, and she's still the best ship in the fleet.
In Star Trek...the score is so vital by zillabeast	Apr 7th, 2009 03:01:45 AM
Huge deal, yes. Hard for me to fathom Giacchino's music getting anything less than a rave review. Dissapointing to hear.
Did any one who saw it LOVE the score? by darthpigman	Apr 7th, 2009 03:01:49 AM
Can anyone remember an original theme?
Kraken- more questions by YackBacker	Apr 7th, 2009 03:03:39 AM
First off, thanks for answering us. My next question is re: Kirk's rise to the Captain's seat. Does it make sense in the story or does it feel rushed, like one minute he's a college dropout, the next he's running the 'Fleet's flagship vessel?
re: zillabeast by Kraken	Apr 7th, 2009 03:05:04 AM
If it makes you feel any better, a music composer friend of mine who was at the screening tonight was gushing about Giacchino's score (then again, he's not a big fan of Horner in general). I respect his opinion quite a bit, so maybe everyone else will love it. I might be too biased because I love the old notes so much.
Reset Button? by critch	Apr 7th, 2009 03:05:36 AM
Hey, Devin at Chud was saying that Chekov dies and the reset button is used...That was weeks ago so those aren't spoilers...Is there any truth to a reset button being used?
Keeping my fingers crossed by zillabeast	Apr 7th, 2009 03:07:07 AM
Im sure we will be getting some more samples of the music in the coming weeks....can't wait!
Yackbacker by Kraken	Apr 7th, 2009 03:07:41 AM
It's a tiny bit contrived, as is everyone's placement in their "parts". But not super ridiculous at all. When he joins Star Fleet, 3 years pass before he's on the Enterprise (and he's considered a great student). So he's not some stow away that accidentally takes over the Enterprise. It all makes sense in the course of the story.
This was what I said in the other tb by Kraken	Apr 7th, 2009 03:09:52 AM
I'm an old school Trek fan. I was cynical when I saw the trailers for this remix, but this movie really won me over tonight. The pros : The new cast, story, visuals (very "used world" and practical look), and no cop outs. Cons: A few "fan dialog" moments that feel a little forced and awkward (very few though and forgivable) The engine room of the Enterprise looks like a glue factory from 1982 while the rest of the ship looks very sleek (yes, I realize it's an engine room and should look rough, but it felt like it wasn't even on board the Enterprise when we see it), the characters kept "lucking" into their old positions on the Enterprise over and over. But the majority of the film really works perfectly. So much fun for Trek fans and non Trek fans alike. My wife started crying when Nimoy came out as a surprise to intro the film. She didn't grow up a film geek like me, but she did grow up loving the Trek movies and Nimoy as Spock was, as always, note perfect. It was a great night. Thank you to Paramount, Harry and the Alamo for an amazing screening. This one will go down in the geek history books. The writers mentioned they were working on the script for Star Trek 2 right now... let's hope one of the crew members of the Enterprise doesn't briefly toy with the idea of growing a goatee. :)
Kraken- more about Kirk by YackBacker	Apr 7th, 2009 03:10:58 AM
If you don't mind, it's really awesome that you're here for us "fans out in the cold." Does Pine pull it off? Not that he behaves/acts like Shatner, but do you believe Pine has the "gravitas" to be a Starship captain or does the center seat seem a little too big for him?
Kraken, does Sulu say "Oh my..." by darthpigman	Apr 7th, 2009 03:12:26 AM

Pine as Kirk by Kraken	Apr 7th, 2009 03:14:56 AM
Feels very much like ToS Kirk. They paint him as a genius, but one that leaps before he looks. Pine pulls it off, very likable as Kirk. There are even a few "Shatner" moments that he does that are VERY subtle but really work and made the fan in me smile. His work with Urban (Bones) is going to make all the fans smile. They have the Kirk/McCoy chemistry right off the bat, fantastic. I think the second film will bring new Spock into that fold. I think the highest compliment I can pay to this film is, I want to see part 2 right f'ing now.
re: Sulu by Kraken	Apr 7th, 2009 03:16:57 AM
I don't remember, but he does get to use a sword, which is great ("what kind of combat did you say you trained in?" "fencing")! Sulu was a big surprise for me, I didn't think he'd be in the film much, but he has quite a lot to do, and they make him really kick a whole lot of ass.
re:critch by Kraken	Apr 7th, 2009 03:18:20 AM
I'll say this... no cop outs.
I think you speak from the heart, Quint. by Orionsangels	Apr 7th, 2009 03:18:23 AM
So I say to myself, this Knowles, your boss, he had chivatos like that working for him, his judgment stinks. I only tell you once. Don't ever be a plant, Quint. Don't you ever try to Plant me.
Kraken- thanks again by YackBacker	Apr 7th, 2009 03:26:38 AM
goodnight/morning dude. If I come across you again on the TBs, be prepared for more pestering!
Kurtzman and Orci appeared in front of genuine movielovers by kwisatzhaderach	Apr 7th, 2009 03:27:24 AM
...and they're still alive? What happened there guys? Why didn't you take your revenge for all the crap they've foisted on us?!
most important geek review if the year!! by Gabba-UK	Apr 7th, 2009 03:30:13 AM
You lucky fuckers!!!!! The idea of a pristine print of Kahn was almost enough for me to book airline tickets. If I'd even had a inkling you were going to pull off this kind of stunt....
that was a pretty cool way to show a movie by BMacSmith	Apr 7th, 2009 03:34:54 AM
good job
Kraken-- by Bones	Apr 7th, 2009 03:35:16 AM
So, certain PLANETS stay destroyed? They don't find a way to save Vulcan?
So this film made you want to watch Khan by DannyOcean01	Apr 7th, 2009 03:37:16 AM
So this big modern blockbuster is an apéritif?
Kahn by BendersShinyAss	Apr 7th, 2009 03:38:11 AM
Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn Kahn seriously... Kahn :)
re: Dannyocean by Kraken	Apr 7th, 2009 03:38:41 AM
Oh definitely man, it's a great setup film.
BendersShineyAss... by Bones	Apr 7th, 2009 03:39:39 AM
You like Kahn's sausages and meats? Or do you mean Khan? Like Khan Noonian Singh?
There's no way Shatner's not in it... by ErnestBorgNine	Apr 7th, 2009 03:40:43 AM
they made the audience promise not to tell. If William Shatner's not in this in some capacity, then I call bullshit. That would be a major, awful flaw.
It would be so fitting for star trek 2... by BendersShinyAss	Apr 7th, 2009 03:41:35 AM
.... to have Kahn The enterprise can come across the botany bay all over again. this time tho, they can have the information that this has happened before. there can be a tangent and before too long Kahn is back in form, taking control of the enterprise, dog fighting with the crew as they try and get back the ship.... just a thought, yknow
Good review - looking forward to it by zapano	Apr 7th, 2009 03:43:12 AM
the whole set up to the presentation sounded amazing, and i'm not even that much of a trek fan
kwisatzhaderach - we survived! by Boborci	Apr 7th, 2009 03:45:59 AM
thank you all for not killing us!
You just had the most mindblowing experience by drturing	Apr 7th, 2009 03:47:20 AM
and it sounds like the movie is.. meh.
re:ErnestBorgNine by Kraken	Apr 7th, 2009 04:02:09 AM
Honestly, if Shatner had shown up somehow I would have been pissed. It made perfect sense that Spock Prime was there... but in this story, there would have been no reason for old Kirk to show up. He died in Generations (yes, I know he comes back in the books, but that doesn't count in movie world) ... Kirk would have been dead in Prime Spock's future time, this is post Nemesis... Kirk would have been long dead from old age anyway. Maybe Shatner will show up in Star Trek 2, but I think having him in this one would have been too much. Honestly, what I would love for them to do is a TV- Next Gen reunion movie... search for Kirk? I'd rather not see Shatner show up in these new movies at all because that would mean more time travel. I think it worked in this movie as a setup for a new Universe, but I wouldn't want to keep seeing it used as a device in the sequels. Otherwise it would turn into Enterprise.
must stay away from reviews of this movie dammit by Mr_X	Apr 7th, 2009 04:03:31 AM

BUT DOES KIRK STILL BEAT THE KOBAYASHI MARU? by J-Dizzle	Apr 7th, 2009 04:10:07 AM
Or does Pine lose like a little girly man?
Yeah, it's completely conceivable to... by ErnestBorgNine	Apr 7th, 2009 04:11:50 AM
totally change the entire aesthetic of the Star Trek universe, canon and history, which I am interested in but not completely sold on, but figuring out a way to get Shatner, the man who is responsible for making Trek what it is, in this film some-how, some-way. I just don't buy it. It seems to be a big dumb Star Trek movie, and I'm not sure I'm into that.
Kobayashi Maru by Kraken	Apr 7th, 2009 04:13:28 AM
Well, it is the unbeatable test. For some.
Nero's not up to snuff huh? by Interficium	Apr 7th, 2009 04:21:41 AM
Sounds like he doesn't live up to his "FIRE EVERYTHING!!" line everyone loved in the last trailer.
Aw man, not the fucking "kid inside" defense... by BurnHollywood	Apr 7th, 2009 04:28:21 AM
How many times do I have to hear that phrase trotted out to defend pedestrian, Lowest-Common-Denominator bullshit. Can we ban it from this site? That and phrases like "I didn't care! I just sat there grinning from ear to ear!"
MADELINE KAN-N-N-N-N-N-N...!!! by BurnHollywood	Apr 7th, 2009 04:34:23 AM
Uh, BendersShinyAss? It's "Khan", unless Mel Brooks made a TREK film back in the 70s...
In Star Trek III: The Search for Spock by cameron1975willi	Apr 7th, 2009 04:38:17 AM
they used archive footage of Spock's death to find out that he transferred his 'Soul' into McCoy. I just thought they could use a similar device to show archive footage of Prime Kirk. Therefore, having him in the film without upsetting the order of Abram's new universe.
Everyone seems to be ignoring the important question by ShadowVoyd	Apr 7th, 2009 04:58:45 AM
Does Greg Grunberg have a cameo? I really don't know If I can bothered to see this if doesn't. Granted, that's a complete and utter lie, but I stand by my statement.
if he doesn't. by ShadowVoyd	Apr 7th, 2009 05:00:30 AM
Shiny new ship, brand now high tech gadgets, and STILL no edit button. Sigh
Brand NEW gadgets. by ShadowVoyd	Apr 7th, 2009 05:01:30 AM
Screw it. It's too early in the morning for this.
Boborci by kwisatzhaderach	Apr 7th, 2009 05:29:03 AM
You're a lucky guy. Gotta hand it to you, classy work getting Nimoy there in person. Must have been a thrill for the crowd.
Did they cut that annoying scene with by Dingbatty	Apr 7th, 2009 05:33:23 AM
young Podracer Kirk stealing the car?
You lucky fuckers. by Brody77	Apr 7th, 2009 06:05:47 AM
I cannot wait to see this. Saddned by the "No Data, No Shatner" comment - was hoping for even a quick bit of TNG action, but what the hell, huh? It isn't supposed to be a 2hr fanwank, so I guess I'll get over it. Film sounds awesome.
Really don't like Wrath of Khan by Judge_Dredd	Apr 7th, 2009 06:07:27 AM
Can't see why everyone loves this film so much.
Insanely jealous. by Nordling	Apr 7th, 2009 06:29:02 AM
I KNEW I should have went to Austin yesterday. I suspected this was happening, but I wasn't able to get off work. Congrats to Harry, Quint, and everyone for a successful screening!
NAH NAH NAH NAH DON'T WANT TO KNOW by Kentucky Colonel	Apr 7th, 2009 06:38:39 AM
(((got my fingers stuck in my ears)))
A much better review than Harry's... by whitty	Apr 7th, 2009 07:03:45 AM
...because it was an actual review, not a jumbled mess filled with name-dropping and rambling. Well done, Quint.
NEW KIRK CREW AND NEXT GEN CREW, ENTIRE MOVIE. by dr sauch	Apr 7th, 2009 07:09:19 AM
PLEASE PLEASE BEFORE THE NEXT GEN CREW GETS TOO OLD. MAKE A CROSSOVER WHERE THE NEXT GEN CREW GOES BACK AND MEETS THE YOUNG KIRK CREW. I WOULD SHOOT NERD JUICE EVERYWHERE, YOU KNOW IT!
No Shatner? Herc was wrong?!? by OBSD	Apr 7th, 2009 07:30:41 AM
Remember how adamant Herc was that Shatner was in this one? I thought he knew "a whole fucking lot about the movie that you do not". It seems people are better off getting their inside scoops from a magic 8 ball than from Herc. Oh, well. I guess actually knowing what the fuck you're talking about isn't as important as being a pimp for Amazon.com.
I'm not one of those dyed in the wool... by Darth Busey	Apr 7th, 2009 07:56:52 AM
...original Star Trek fan douchebags who won't give this film a chance. I will. But if Shatner and Nimoy don't share a post-timeline change moment at the end of this film, I will be very pissed and disappointed by the missed opportunity.
Kurt Lockwood makes a brief cameo... by MrSentinel	Apr 7th, 2009 08:07:43 AM
I swear!!!
Does This Make Quint A Plant Also? by Crow3711	Apr 7th, 2009 08:20:31 AM
Because, so far as I can tell, any one who enjoys any movie on any level is a plant these days.
Enterprise Launch by donholbrookjr	Apr 7th, 2009 08:55:44 AM
Ok I know this is petty but I swear I have lost sleep over this. Someone who has seen the movie simply must tell me how they launch the enterprise. I have sworn to my friends if they strap booster rockets to that thing and lauch it into space I will walk out of the theater.
Don by Quint	Apr 7th, 2009 09:04:43 AM
It's not a moment you see. The moment Kirk rides his bike up to it as it's being built and the moment when he arrives on board are separated by 3 years. It's already in space when we next see it.
Sounds good BUT by Klytus_I.m_Bored	Apr 7th, 2009 09:15:36 AM
I think there should be a 48-hour wait period between the screening and writing the review. This sounds like it was blast because it was such a great switchup - go see Khan and get surprised with the entire new Trek movie. I'm sure this was done with a sense of fun but it also probably really jazzed the reviewers so much that they would be more forgiving of a less-than-stellar film. I haven't seen the new Trek so I can't say for sure, but I remember how I walked out of Phantom Menace thinking it was a whole lot better than it was, and that was because I saw it in a packed theater full of SW geeks on opening day. About 12 hours later the crushing realization that the movie really sucked set in. I'd like to hear a review from someone who let the film settle in their minds a bit after the euphoria of the surprise showing wore off.
Montalban OWNS Khan!!!! by victor82	Apr 7th, 2009 09:31:04 AM
Unlike FatShat owning the role of Kirk, which he doesn't, you can't bring Khan back. Montalban owned that role. It would be like putting George Bush on Mount Rushmore. NO KHAN in the next movie. That would be lazy writing and an insult to a deceased character actor whose body of work was great.
What about the story....What about the SCRIPT??? by conspiracy	Apr 7th, 2009 09:37:52 AM
I had no doubt it would be fast paced, action packed and beautiful...but not ONE reviewer has mentioned the script. Not one hyperbolic, Red Bull fueled, freshly Star Fucked reporter has said a word as to whether those nitwits stuck in fart,piss,and masturbation jokes. Nobody has said squat about how these characters interact with their world, other than they are reverential while feeling "fresh". PLEASE tell me that Hack ORCI pulled a rabbit out of his base pandering ass and wrote with some heart and respect...tell me he has risen above everything he has shat on us before...tell me this is a GOOD script and not another Orci/Kurtzman punch job.
how could the death of Kirk's brother by Klytus_I.m_Bored	Apr 7th, 2009 09:43:20 AM
change how the Enterprise was built? Would that really affect the fact that Enterprise was built in space and in this new timeline it's built on Earth?
Superior to Harry by Jamador79	Apr 7th, 2009 09:51:50 AM
Great review. Thank you for not taking 1800 words to get to the discussion of the actual movie.
Yeah... Who could do justice to Khan? by Nix_Cadavre	Apr 7th, 2009 10:13:01 AM
Those are big shoes to fill. I'd hate to be the actor who tries to fill them.
Javier Bardem is Khan. by Mostholy	Apr 7th, 2009 11:02:51 AM
Quickly, before they cast Gael Garcia Bernal.
I hope they try this SWITCH for GB3 for the first film by Six Demon Bag	Apr 7th, 2009 11:20:44 AM
austin burns to the ground
Is there going to be a Star Trek script conteset? by paulmkelly	Apr 7th, 2009 11:39:07 AM
That you never pick a winner for, too?
Quint, thanks for this by cool_britannia79	Apr 7th, 2009 11:41:13 AM
Hank McCoy brain fart aside, reading everyone else's 'reviews', yours really shines. Cheers fella.
Quint, ->I by HenryVIII	Apr 7th, 2009 11:49:08 AM
Incredible story. And i want to share it with fellow geeks. But ... I'm already getting complaints that there are too many spoilers contained herein. Any chance of posting a spoiler-free version of this story?
I hope they leave the existing TOS stories alone by YackBacker	Apr 7th, 2009 11:52:07 AM
Be creative, Jesus. Who needs an alt-verse Khan? That's fan-fiction material all the way. How about STAR TREK goes back to exploring outer space? Crazy idea, I know. But imagine a Trek movie 1) without a villain, 2) without anyone saying the word "revenge!", 3) without time travel and 4) with a puzzle or problem that takes the whole crew to solve! Please, move forward with this story.
Sorry but.. by Chadley BeBay	Apr 7th, 2009 11:58:45 AM
Wrath of Khan just isn't that good. Its just NOT a great movie. I am not a huge Trek fan, but the only really great writing I have seen in anything Star Trek is from the old next generation show. I watched TWOK again maybe a couple of months ago, and you guys need to get over it. It doesn't deserve the hype.
quint that was a fantastic review .... by JeanLuc Dickhard	Apr 7th, 2009 11:59:30 AM
dickhard says make it so..........
Quint, regarding Nero's ship by _Palmer_Eldritch	Apr 7th, 2009 12:09:35 PM
is there any mention or sign of Borg technology being implemented? That's what happens in the comics, you see, and it looked quite promising. Not that anyone would know the Borg back then... and btw: FUCK "Enterprise" and "Voyager" for everything they did to ruin Trek!
VIDEO from the entire event in Austin by Kraken	Apr 7th, 2009 12:27:02 PM
http://digg.com/d1oANL
How about a spoiler warning!?! by Cap'n Jack	Apr 7th, 2009 12:45:10 PM

Abrams is great and so is Cloverfield by Proman1984	Apr 7th, 2009 12:53:54 PM
Great theater experience.
FYI LONDON AICN TALKBACKERS - IMAX BOOKING by Mr_X	Apr 7th, 2009 01:13:28 PM
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Next Trek villains ... easy. by riskebiz	Apr 7th, 2009 01:51:22 PM
You want villains for this next film in the Abram's Trek? They have a rogues gallery that would rival Batman. I'd like to see big screen interpretations of Charlie X, Mudd, Kirk from the Mirror Mirror universe (Shatner anyone?), General Trelane, Nomad, Gary Seven ... there's a huge list to draw upon ... and then there is Khan. Personally, I'd love to see Shatner as Kirk from the Mirror, Mirror universe go up against Pine's Kirk.
Proman1984...YOU are FUCKING HIGH! by conspiracy	Apr 7th, 2009 01:52:35 PM
At the theater I got ripped off at while watching CLovershit..people fucking laughed..and one dude screamed "THAT FUCKING SUCKED" Cloverfield was a steamer...a new high in lows..a movie so bad it is unwatchable on the small screen and doesn't even work to as fodder for getting loaded too. Complete Fail.
Cloverfield is GREAT by Klytus_I.m_Bored	Apr 7th, 2009 01:53:30 PM
if you're getting a blowjob during it. Ask me how I know.
Do any Klingons appear in the new movie? by mrfan	Apr 7th, 2009 02:06:12 PM
If so, do they have ridges or old school Klingons?
Origins is Doomed! by ganymede3010	Apr 7th, 2009 02:45:51 PM
Once this hits a week after Origins Wolverines fate will be sealed. Take that Fox.
Nobody got my scarface reference? by Orionsangels	Apr 7th, 2009 03:01:57 PM
You guys are lame.
riskebiz, do we really need to rehash old villains? by YackBacker	Apr 7th, 2009 03:09:28 PM
What's the upside to retelling old stories like that? They can and should do better with this new series. Create new characters and stories! They've written themselves into a place where they can go anywhere. So... go and do it!
What's the upside of rebooting Star Trek, Yackbacker? by riskebiz	Apr 7th, 2009 04:10:45 PM
It's not rehashing ... it's saying that there are great villains in the Trek world that can be rebooted in new and great ways. There is a huge amount of characters. Was it rehashing to bring Khan back for Wrath of Khan? No. It made for a great movie because he was a great villain. I'd rather see movie with Batman fighting the Joker than Batman fighting some made up villain.
HEY "DAMIAN" LINDELOF (snicker) by BillboeFett	Apr 7th, 2009 05:17:05 PM
Give us the flashback to the Black Rock dude... don't finish up season 6 without it dude.. I'm talking the high seas, swashbuckling, splashing waves, the starboard bow.. all of it dude. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. You and Cuse owe us from the Libby backpeddle you did. Comeon now.
pretty awesome how LOST just integrated Trek fans by BillboeFett	Apr 7th, 2009 05:17:49 PM
Into its fold via Lindelof. Very cool move.
Don't dump the old continuity by Cordelia Rules	Apr 7th, 2009 05:20:37 PM
This all sounds good but I definitely don't want the old continuity to disappear forever. Maybe these movies can be Trek's equivalent of Marvel's Ultimate books and future Trek projects can move the story forward in the old continuity? Having two continuities works well for Marvel...
All I want to know is by Klytus_I.m_Bored	Apr 7th, 2009 05:55:03 PM
Does Trek anally rape my great-grandfather's corpse while shoving pussyjuice-covered shitballs up my cockhole thereby causing me to cum diarrhea into my own open and willing mouth?
Actually...I am officially excited... by ccchhhrrriiisssm	Apr 7th, 2009 06:21:28 PM
...to watch this film. I am so desperate to like this film. Is there ANYTHING else coming out this summer?
Eh.... by Chemicals	Apr 7th, 2009 07:14:00 PM
I get nervous anytime this site gushes about some new event movie. Their track record is awful, and usually the things they say are great are sub-standard or worse.
I hope so!!!! by TheLastBoyScout	Apr 7th, 2009 07:15:31 PM
I really hope this movie is as good as they say it is. After Enterprise I need some good Trek.
Check out my review by bobsjohnson	Apr 7th, 2009 07:18:30 PM
Plus some clips http://digg.com/d1nrMA
... by ZodNotGod	Apr 7th, 2009 07:59:13 PM
For no reason other than it just popped into my head- the animated series is so under appreciated.
Get these FUCKING talking ADS off this damn site!!! by D.Vader	Apr 7th, 2009 08:38:09 PM
That is the most ANNOYING SHIT I've ever seen here at AICN. More annoying than goddamned ScriptGirl.
What the fuck?? Ghost ads?? by odo19	Apr 7th, 2009 08:52:04 PM
I can hear the audio, but not the ad!!
but I cant see the ad by odo19	Apr 7th, 2009 08:52:50 PM
is what I meant to say
by ZodNotGod	Apr 7th, 2009 09:04:54 PM
This isn't being rebooted, just re-focused. Time travel changes the continuity,(frees it up) just doesn't erase it. NOT A REBOOT!@
AdventureLand is one of the best movies in 09 by MainMan2001	Apr 7th, 2009 09:10:44 PM

by Cordelia Rules	Apr 7th, 2009 09:57:03 PM
Zod-how is changing the continuity not a reboot? That's the definition of a reboot.
Lines on the print by oducerproducer	Apr 7th, 2009 10:11:09 PM
I love films with a wear & tear feel to it, of course i'm more of a midnight movie maven. But i think it adds to the viewing experience.
Quuuuuuuint!!!! by Orionsangels	Apr 7th, 2009 11:56:28 PM

NO. by 420 Boylston St	Apr 8th, 2009 12:32:45 AM

Just not interested in Abrams Trek by 420 Boylston St	Apr 8th, 2009 12:34:48 AM
I know what JJ brought to the show but I'm not interested in tinkering the characters for the MTV/Nickelodeon, Disney Channel bunch. Transformers 2 I will see!
Give a Khan a rest, its starting to sound like the GOP with thei by The Founder	Apr 8th, 2009 08:55:55 AM
Seriously Kahn was over 20 years and so was Ronald reagan. Let the past go.
The Post of Captain seems by Gordak	Apr 8th, 2009 09:28:15 AM
Given and not earned.
The Post of Captain is "butt-trough" based by BurnHollywood	Apr 8th, 2009 09:52:53 AM
Kirk's ass was a perfect match for Pike's...AND A LEGEND WAS BORN.
Khan wasn't a match for Kirk... by Flim_	Apr 8th, 2009 10:52:29 AM
Kirk and Spock were impossibly outmatched by Khan - he was, by far, their intellectual superior. The thing that brought Khan down was his all-consuming zeal and lack of experience, not a lack of intelligence.
The Founder by NoHubris	Apr 8th, 2009 01:30:39 PM
I'm not sure if Khan is soley just an icon or phenom from 20 years ago. During the the 90s and up to maybe five or so years ago, some popular video stores had entire sections devoted TOS Trek and Space Seed (along with Mirror, Mirror and a few others) seemed to be always out. I'm just sayin.
Quint's by shran	Apr 8th, 2009 04:41:53 PM
is the only review on this site that I care about. The review from Empire seems pretty fair to me, also. I have quibbles but I am a die hard Trek fan. This movie looks like a great way for me to waste my money in a theater. And BTW: Kirk and Spock bested Khan twice. He might have had the superior intellect and strength but he weren't no proppa playa. 0-2 record speaks for itself. Fail is fail.
The only thing that could ruin this movie by squarebird	Apr 8th, 2009 05:26:06 PM
would be rap music. The corvette should definitely be blaring the screaming rockabilly of Johnny Powers "Long Blonde Hair" http://www.itsfun.com/template s/electronica/index.jsp?band=1 14
That would be band =114 by squarebird	Apr 8th, 2009 05:28:08 PM
http://www.itsfun.com/template s/electronica/index.jsp?band=1 14
/templates/ by squarebird	Apr 8th, 2009 05:30:29 PM
Talkback adds spaces! Anyway, Kirk would be a cool cat, not a whigga.
You lucky bastard by VoodooChild3000	Apr 8th, 2009 08:56:14 PM
I don't want to have to wait until midnight May 8--the 7th is my birthday and I told my husband he's taking me to the midnight showing. As for Khan...Khan is Montalban. Nobody else could ever play that part again, the role is so associated with him, just like it'd be impossible to have a Joker who wasn't Heath Ledger. My question, because this is my only worry about Abrams having directed it, is that they don't turn Uhura into some action chick, do they? JJ has a habit of making a lot of his female leads the same, but that's so not Uhura, so does he do her justice?
one word: KLINGONS by Dr_PepperSpray	Apr 9th, 2009 09:07:54 AM
They need an iconic villain. Stop trying to stuff everything into your post Khan expectations. What made Star Trek 6 so great was that it brought a new kind of enemy, prejudice, rather then some rogue character set on a course for revenge. Kirk figuratively, and literally, fought himself in VI..it caused him and everyone around him to grow up a bit.. Sure there was Chang, but he was just one of several gate keepers. Don't get me wrong, I love Wrath of Khan, but not every story HAS to be Star Trek 2. Now I haven't seen the new movie and originally didn't want to, but yes! The buzz has taken me over. Fine, it's Utlimate: Star Trek. I can live with that; but if Batman begins was followed by the Joker, then I'd say Startrek 11 where are we at now? should be about Klingons, and you know I'm right. If I had to give some advice blindly, I'd love to see more exploration then simple TNG space patrolling, as well as an injection of Hornblower. I'd love to see a green Kirk forced to go against a well-trained Klingon bird of prey. I'd also love to see Aliens that aren't simply humans with ridgey foreheads. Klingons should be ALIENS, not cuddly like TNG, as foreign to us as insects, and think and fight outside human expectations - real masters of space combat. If they want a historical template though maybe they could be LIKE Nazi Marauders and Kirk could go against their Klingon equivalent of Rommel - really cut his teeth and show us why Kirk is so revered throughout the galaxy while showing us why Klingons are so feared. Just a thought.
The next movie by shran	Apr 9th, 2009 01:21:51 PM
Should be about Mugatu. That is all.
Dr_PepperSpray by NoHubris	Apr 10th, 2009 11:38:11 AM
Your Batman Begins-TDK is a great analogy IMHO. If Batman Begins was followed by the Joker in TDK, it would be fitting to follow up this "Kirk Begins" Star Trek with an arch villian comparable to the Joker like Khan, only reboot Khan too. With an imaginative story, it is possible to have exploration AND a rebooted/re-imagined Khan at the same time. My suggestion is to re-imagine Khan by giving him and his superhumans the great empire he dreamed of. This way you can include Klingons and other alien types, as well as unexplored, unchartered territory claimed by Khan and under his dominion. With imagination, Khan's empire or realm wouldn't be a rehash of the Star Wars-type galactic empire. Nonetheless, the same thing could probably be done minus Khan with the Klingon Empire.
pornogil you fail by Vision	Apr 10th, 2009 04:49:05 PM
"first" ? Fail.
so if its midnight may 8th.....then by rben	Apr 11th, 2009 03:03:13 PM
it's actually coming out may 9th. i'm a normal human. i have to work the next day so midnight is out. Anyone have any idea what day of the week this is? don't have a calender next to me here at the libary. i'm thinking friday. so maybe i'll call out sick. oops! so much for the "normal" human comment. i agree with an earlier poster, that the next movie should be a "sense of wonder" type movie, not a stock villian screaming "fire everything!" These days though movies are too expensive to produce and the objective is to get the asses in the seats which is why you're always going to get the transformers type of movies, and not the 2001 type. TV may be the last hope as far as that goes, although there too you have the "ratings" conundrum. I would say that the Galactica reboot was the exception, taking a show that was nothing but action and artifice, and bringing alot of cerebral "what constitutes being human and/or being alien" and it suceeded under Ron Moore. Hopefully Caprica will be more of the same. (otherwise i'll just have to keep watching the old Outer Limits series over and over!) That said, i'll still watch the first movie. I consider myself more of a movie fan and science fiction fan first before being a Trek fan so i don't give a rat's ass that other actors are playing Kirk, Spock, etc. I still think it would be cool for Ellison to do a really sense of wonder Trek screenplay that isn't interfeared with at all (but it'll never happen as Trek is poison to Ellison and with good reason.) sidenote: i'm so picking up the Ellison documentary from Amazon in May. (it's frakken awesome!)
tribbles? by Joker Gordon Levitt	Apr 14th, 2009 09:09:55 PM
no tribbles?

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