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by BenBraddock
Apr 1st, 2009
12:59:42 AM
1/4/09
Yow
by Frankenbastard
Apr 1st, 2009
01:02:28 AM
I mean i'm not the most honest guy on the planet but that's kind of shitty.
wow you really got me for a minute
by TheDark0Knight
Apr 1st, 2009
01:02:39 AM
that would have to have been the biggest leak in the history of film.
Shit
by Frankenbastard
Apr 1st, 2009
01:03:42 AM
I fell for it.
this is cynic central
by Smithys.Bark
Apr 1st, 2009
01:04:55 AM
...who are you trying to fool!!
Fuck piracy
by deanbarry
Apr 1st, 2009
01:05:02 AM
Seriously. I hate shit quality, illegal copies of movies. Whenever a friend of mine offers me a movie of dubious origin, i always pass. I LOVE my movies, as much as anyone else on this site. So how can i condone watching an illegal version that hurts the industry and looks like crap. I want to enjoy the experience. Large screen. Great sound. Via a cinema screening or on nifty blu ray. I'll be avoiding this at all costs and cursing the bejesus outta anyone who spoils it for me on the TB's.
haha
by wash
Apr 1st, 2009
01:05:41 AM
The date is just a co0inky dink dudes. It's real as he...scratch that, I mean it's as real as Tom Rothman's douchey-ness.
Maybe not :-)
by aigam
Apr 1st, 2009
01:06:04 AM
And if I have been fooled
by deanbarry
Apr 1st, 2009
01:06:17 AM
Kudos...but i still stand by my rant.
Worse than X3
by robzass
Apr 1st, 2009
01:07:37 AM
see for yourself.
Shit, I forgot it was April Fool's:(
by ganymede3010
Apr 1st, 2009
01:07:51 AM
I was hoping to read a review or 2. Oh well, May is going to rock! Wolverine, Star Trek, T4. Bow chica wow wow.
really?
by Smithys.Bark
Apr 1st, 2009
01:08:34 AM
...its real!! Why the hell would you want to watch a workprint a film that looks pretty FX laden...youre gonna miss alot and ruin the film for yourself.
AICN as a rule, does not do April Fool's Stories
by HEADGEEK
Apr 1st, 2009
01:08:37 AM
Honest injun!
I guess it "could" be an April Fool's joke...
by iamnicksaicnsn
Apr 1st, 2009
01:08:47 AM
but it has been all over the place, news-wise. Though, I haven't necessarily seen any lay-man reactions, though I haven't really checked out any forums. So what say you, John Q. Public? Shitty? Did the Re-shoots save it?
it's the workprint, not the full movie anyway.
by hellnback
Apr 1st, 2009
01:09:44 AM
turns out it's the workprint and not even fully complete. the new scenes that were recently added to beef up the movie are not included in the workprint. the cgi is missing and the movie looks horrible without it. yes i downloaded it and watched it and know the story somewhat but trust me even if you see the workprint you're still going to have to go see in the theater to fully experiance the full movie with cgi effects fully intact. trust me without the cgi this movie looks terrible and cheesy. so yeah you can watch the workprint and then go watch the real full movie in the theater and see what changes they've made and what cgi they improved on, which would be all the cgi. some of the mutants abilities and appearances look stupid without the cgi.
Oh, well, there you go Robzass...
by iamnicksaicnsn
Apr 1st, 2009
01:10:19 AM
Anything you can ambiguously discuss without really ruining anything about it?
Balls
by alaero
Apr 1st, 2009
01:11:22 AM
AICN has grown Big Balls good on you guys!!
Just watched Wolverine !!!
by everstranger
Apr 1st, 2009
01:12:25 AM
It's pretty meh. I also just watched Terminator Salvation, Avatar and Star Wars Episode 7. Spoiler alert: Jar Jar Binks is the new galactic emperor.
Yes. It really is horrible
by robzass
Apr 1st, 2009
01:12:59 AM
Nothing i can discuss that you can't see for yourself. it's everywhere iamnicksaincnsn. just get a copy. apparently this version is pre-reshoots but honestly....i doubt those help that much. it seems beyond fixing.
we don't condone piracy, but its easy to get if you want it!
by BMacSmith
Apr 1st, 2009
01:13:49 AM
piracy sucks, but what can you do?
Just finished watching it.
by critch
Apr 1st, 2009
01:16:08 AM
It's not an April Fools joke. It's not done by any means, while the quality of the transfer is perfect quality, any scene with CGI is unfinished to say the least. Most of the time it's just untextured standins. The movie itself is unfinished too, as the final version will have 20 more minutes added to it. As it is, it's not horrendous. It's got a lot of stupid in it, but a bit of awesome as well (Unexpected cameo at the end was terrific) and Liev Shrieber pulls off a really great Sabretooth, though why he has transformed into Tyler Mane by the time the first movie rolls around is completely left unexplained. How Logan's memory is lost is idiotic as well. Gambit is pulled off about as well as anyone, though I wasn't really feeling the actor. The main plot is kinda meandering, and there were a few random mutants that weren't fleshed out and just as quickly disposed of. Ryan Reynolds was great as Deadpool, until they screwed him up at the end. Interesting but way too short fight at the end too, and the entire Sabretooth vs Wolverine plot is also dropped... Yeah, it needs another 20 minutes, much of it needs fleshed out more, as it is it's a very light summer flick that will come out one week and be blown away the next (Star Trek seems like the better movie if the trailers are any indication). In the X-franchise, it's nowhere near as good as 2, and probably along the same lines as 3. Like I said, it's unfinished though. This has happened before. Remember when Hulk leaked early? The bad word of mouth about the effects hit that movie hard when it released. I'm wondering if a similar effect is going to happen here.
u could have just said dont do it, it triggers the conficker vir
by pjvader
Apr 1st, 2009
01:17:36 AM
maybe it does who the hell knows! all i know is that i will watch the workprint, pay to see it, then even if it sucks ill buy the blu-ray as im that kinda guy :)
this workprint is supposed to be missing 14 minutes
by caipirina
Apr 1st, 2009
01:18:05 AM
i'd stay away from it! could be a very different movie from what will be released in a month ... it might be fun to compare this workprint AFTER having seen it on the big screen ...
I would watch it...
by Duncan Irons
Apr 1st, 2009
01:18:09 AM
But then I will go to a proper theater when it is released... Not the same thing, and how can Wolverine be spoiled anyways, everyone pretty much knows how the story will roll...
I have to disagree...
by Dr.DirtyD
Apr 1st, 2009
01:18:39 AM
...if you want to help the Hollywood industry lay offs, you've got to point the finger at the over indulgent pay checks at the top, not piracy...the way bottom.

I tell you man, whenever there's an Econ crisis, the little man and the little'er man get it point blank while all the fat cats keep what they always had and, in fact, usually end up with more.

Sorry, busting a little early 20th century soap box in Washington square style.

Solidarity people, Solidarity.

I just finished watching it as well
by BadMrWonka
Apr 1st, 2009
01:19:09 AM
I saw it on Kevin Smith's AICN inspired website...
hmmm
by hellnback
Apr 1st, 2009
01:19:27 AM
in the past i've always found it interesting to see the workprint version and then see the full version just to see how they've improved it. what changes they've made. i find myself sometimes going "wow, the changed the ending completly." or "they didn't kill that guy like in the workprint".
14 missing minutes...
by critch
Apr 1st, 2009
01:21:07 AM
Unless those fourteen minutes give us some kind of closure on Sabretooth, flesh out Deadpool, make the farm sequence not stupid, and completely erase the "Adamantium bullets", and add at least one more kickass action scene for a total of 1 and a half, I don't think it's going to be a different movie. The opening credits do kick ass though.
Ummmm.....theater attendance is better than ever.
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Apr 1st, 2009
01:21:16 AM
And there is not one shred of evidence that pirated films negatively impact ticket sales.
Remove Article
by enderandrew
Apr 1st, 2009
01:21:21 AM
If you don't want to support piracy, then don't spread the word that there is a leak. Now tons of people are going to look for it, and spread it even more.
shill shilling shillers
by Ace of Wands
Apr 1st, 2009
01:21:29 AM
if this story is true and Mr Beaks attitude towards it is genuine then it is indicative as to how this site and those who moderate have become the epitome of the shill.

And before Harry claims that policy here is as it has always been I'll shout- REVISIONIST!!

If the policy here was as is claimed then this site would have never- briefly- gained the power- and popularity- that it did: people came- CAME!!- here for information that they could not get elsewhere and elsewhere were mostly corporate outlets- exactly what this has become, fella's.

As has happened so often in history, you have become what you beheld and hence designated yourselves to eventual exctinction and, Quint and Vern aside, the sooner the better.

Exactly. This article just told hundreds of people its out there
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Apr 1st, 2009
01:22:38 AM
Box office records are being made in the last couple of years!
by silentbobafett2
Apr 1st, 2009
01:22:59 AM
Piracy Does Effect Sales
by enderandrew
Apr 1st, 2009
01:24:01 AM
Not each download equates to a lost sale, because some people pirate who don't have the financial means, or any real desire to pay, but piracy does effect some sales. That's just common sense.
Most people who pirate would not pay to see it anyway.
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Apr 1st, 2009
01:24:56 AM
PIRACY IS BAD but STUDIOS ARE WORSE: REPORT:
by silentbobafett2
Apr 1st, 2009
01:27:07 AM
Not really a report! lol! But seriusly, this is my view: 1) Get better theaters with better staff. 2) If I borrow a film off a friend... is it piracy? 3) If I tape a film off of TV - is it piracy? 4) If I buy an import - is it piracy? 5) How comes all kinds of records for box office have been broken recently? 6) Didn't Dark Knight come out last year, that is now one of the most succefull movies ever? THERE WAS A DVD RIP (HQ) OUT OF THAT THAT WAS REPORTED IN THE NEWS!!! 6) Seeing a film on the big screen in a GOOD CINEMA with a GOOD STAFF WORKING THERE will always beat a file off of a computer. 7) Theres more but lets just say these lay-offs and fear of piracy is studio BS. An excuse to cut costs and scare people. There is a lot more that the studios could do to save the industry than worry about the occasional leaked work print etc
And Beaks. If you're concerned about Hollywood layoffs....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Apr 1st, 2009
01:28:52 AM
....perhaps you should stop promoting films shot outside of the U.S. Runaway production is a massive crisis for the industry resulting in mucho job loss here in the states. Of course the suits don't give a fuck. The films are still getting made, with non-union crews and they're pulling in massive profits.
Can't take it!
by RedwingsHoolihan
Apr 1st, 2009
01:29:10 AM
I know it's wrong, but must watch now! WWJD?
hulk movie leaked early also...
by iownyou
Apr 1st, 2009
01:31:31 AM
the 1st one
alright, it's real
by BadMrWonka
Apr 1st, 2009
01:32:05 AM
I thought it was a joke, but if MSNBC is reporting it, I'm willing to concede that this print really is out there...and that's bullshit. at least they know who leaked it and he's gonna get shitcanned...

http://tinyurl.com/2g9mqh

Great point with Dark knight...
by Dr.DirtyD
Apr 1st, 2009
01:32:31 AM
There were very good copies out there, and yet... Movie theater attendance always goes up during times of economic strife.
As Did Every Other Site That Ran The Story, Danny
by mrbeaks
Apr 1st, 2009
01:32:38 AM
No-win situation here. It's a major leak. We reported on it, and left it up to the readers.

And tell my friends who've been laid off over the last few months that they should be thrilled about that spike in theater attendance. Or the ones who will be let go before the end of the summer. The industry is in a transitional phase - and the scale of that transition could be staggering.
BadMrWonka
by critch
Apr 1st, 2009
01:33:02 AM
*golfclap*
God I love a good Rick Roll.
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Apr 1st, 2009
01:33:16 AM
Its like a blowjob after breakfast.
Yup...the transitional phase is: cheaper crews = more money.
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Apr 1st, 2009
01:34:58 AM
THANKS AUSTRALIA AND CZECH REPUBLIC!
Not downloading, but thanks to you lads who did...
by BiggusDickus
Apr 1st, 2009
01:35:35 AM
...for saving me the effort of finding out for myself that it was shit.

Then again, the short-haired Sabertooth and the ridiculous flying-attack-on-helicopter pretty much telegraphed how it was going to turn out.

Can we PLEASE have the Miller/Japan story now we've exhausted all the tiresome 'Weapon X' bollocks?

It all comes down to OUTSOURCING AMERICAN JOBS.
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Apr 1st, 2009
01:38:39 AM
The studio fucks can come up with a million excuses. They can point the finger at shit like piracy all they want. They're pulling in records profits, yet more and more American employees are laid off while production overseas soars. Sound familiar? Yeah. Sounds just like every other fucking industry we've lost.

Who'd have thought
by CRanga
Apr 1st, 2009
01:40:13 AM
Anyone that read the shithouse script knew that the final product was gonna be terrible, even with any rewrites/reshoots. I'm still gonna download it and watch like I always intended to, but no I get it a month earlier and in better quality. Thanks for the heads up AICN.
Um...AICN guys...?
by Grievey
Apr 1st, 2009
01:40:34 AM
I had no idea there was even a leak. You guys basically just advertised it to everyone who visits your site and didn't know about it. =S

But I won't watch it yet anyway. I relish the experience of being in a theater with a full audience, soaking up the big screen. w00t.
Thanks, Harry, now I can get it before Fox pulls it.
by cossack_says_die
Apr 1st, 2009
01:40:51 AM
If you wouldn't have said anything, then I would have probably gone to sleep and not checked my usual sources. But since you did, I am currently downloading the motherfucker. Ill be watching it when I wake up tomorrow. This shit is legit people, not an April fools prank.
I can Hear Hollywood Crybaby Washington Already.
by gusradio
Apr 1st, 2009
01:41:13 AM
This movie will suck, Almost as much as X-men 3, and now when it doesn't get the numbers ($$) they want, they will blame torrents and petition Senators to kill more of the freedoms of privacy that we enjoy on the internet. I'm not saying that piracy is even remotely OK. But there are many benefits to things like newsgroups, file sharing, ect. that we will dearly miss when Hollywood corporate money talks Washington into taking it away. That is why the Wolverine leak is bad. I know filmmakers and musicians that put their art on torrents themselves (mdotstrange, Giuseppe Andrews, ect) because they want to reach people and can't get they're movies distributed because of the way Hollywood bullies the distribution process. I'm not happy at all that this film was leaked and I will refrain from watching a workprint, but I saw that lame ass trailer and I'm tried of watching butchered stories that I've known by heart for over a decade. Also, I've grown out of enjoying paying to sit in a cramped theater, overhearing conversations through movies, shifting around to let drunks go take a piss, and smelling your farts. I'll watch this when it hits video, what can this film possibly enlighten me about Wolverine? I've read those comics since I was like 6 years old, and the movie will obviously be a let down. So far this year my favorite film has been Coraline in 3D. It was like watching a living diorama. Henry Selick is a visionary, while Gavin Hood (the director of Wolverine) directed Kickboxer 5 and an episode of Stargate SG1.
oh my god its not a joke
by TheDark0Knight
Apr 1st, 2009
01:44:07 AM
I watched the first scene and the opening credits...I wont watch anymore until theaters, it looks to badass, I want to see the proper f/x.
BEAKS: come on... I agree with about piracy and this film BUT
by silentbobafett2
Apr 1st, 2009
01:44:21 AM
You can't tell me you think your friends are loosing jobs because of it! Cheaper crews, international production bases, the ECONOMY DROP MIGHT have something to do with it... MIGHT! Beaks - I have friends who are looksing their jobs. There were thousands and thousands in the last few months of factory workers - WAS THAT BECAUSE OF PIRACY? THE WORLD IS IN TRANSITION! DOn't give us that "piracy is killing the industry line". It's an excuse. And I will tell your friends who lost their jobs that. It's a shame but they deserve to know the truth and fight for whats right! Not fight on a lie... Is priacy bad? Yes. Is it the devil? No. Ask your friends how many big cheese suits took pay cuts? How many of them PAID to see a film at the cinema? How many took h ome a screener? Take away the piracy issue, which I'm sure has an effect but it's minimal compared to other factors, and see what you're left with.
Lots Of Production In New Mexico, Louisiana And Michigan
by mrbeaks
Apr 1st, 2009
01:45:10 AM
But that's not much help to California crews. Runaway production is an entirely different issue, and really isn't germane to this discussion.
that's ridiculous
by Kenny_Fuckin_Powers
Apr 1st, 2009
01:46:17 AM
i didn't know this leaked, until you said so.
dude that showed Harry a copy of AOTC...
by wash
Apr 1st, 2009
01:46:47 AM
got in a shitload of trouble. Just sayin'
Wolverine....?
by JERRY HORROR
Apr 1st, 2009
01:46:49 AM
Work prints usually suck. I'm not "super" excited for this film either. It looks like "Wolverine and a whole bunch of other mutants crammed in for the fan boys".
Dark0knight
by critch
Apr 1st, 2009
01:47:59 AM
You just watched the best part of the movie. It's all downhill from there.
silentbobafett2
by Nintendo Dude
Apr 1st, 2009
01:49:59 AM
Nice try, but you read the "actor" portion of his IMDB profile, not his director credits. What do I say next? Fail? Burn? Cookin the books? ::insert trendy net phrase here::
I agree it's fucking shitty if true.
by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz
Apr 1st, 2009
01:50:19 AM
There is one thing I truly support it's the arts. That goes for music, movies and the such. I agree to pay for said content because I want it to keep coming. It's enjoyment.

When assholes leak shit and others steal it in the long run you are not only hurting yourself but everyone else. Eventually this type of stuff will hurt the quality and the amount of movies you will see in the theater. And that goes for home media too. Rent a movie if you have to by paying for a service like netflix but stop stealing it because you're fucking it up for everyone else in the long term and that's just selfish.
Danny Glover's Dickblood...
by Darth Mulder
Apr 1st, 2009
01:52:29 AM
...How the fuck did you come up with that?
I can't believe people would watch this...
by 11ZOMBIES
Apr 1st, 2009
01:52:38 AM
...even pirated. The trailers look like canned ass. Not worth the time to find it.
WHO CARES...
by CENOBITE
Apr 1st, 2009
01:56:47 AM
I've seen plenty of rough cuts, prescreenings and test viewings. STILL going to see this at the theater because TONS.
Like others, I didn't know
by POST
Apr 1st, 2009
01:56:48 AM
until you told me it was leaked. good job adding to the problem.
...(dang writing in the dark)
by CENOBITE
Apr 1st, 2009
01:58:17 AM
hit the enter button... anyways... TONS of edits can be made and entirely change the feel of a film.
"The biggest film to ever leak"?
by Stalin vs Predator
Apr 1st, 2009
01:58:33 AM
May I remind you of a little film affectionately referred to as "Episode III", out as an essentially finished workprint about two weeks before its release.
correction to my previous post
by gusradio
Apr 1st, 2009
02:00:06 AM
Gavin Hood did not direct Kickboxer or an Episode of Stargate. He did Rendition and Tsoti. I've honestly never seen either (but still don't care).
I know who leaked it
by saint seiya
Apr 1st, 2009
02:00:24 AM
it comes fro Rising Sun Pictures, the date of the print is march 2, 2009. http://www.rsp.com.au/news.htm
"Piracy" = resistance to censorship
by berserkrl
Apr 1st, 2009
02:00:45 AM
http://tinyurl.com/c6d67l
As for April Fools jokes...
by deanbarry
Apr 1st, 2009
02:01:20 AM
Johnny Depp in talks to become Freddy Krueger almost had me. I love Depp, but he ain't Kruger.
It's hard to blame flagging US production . . .
by Fletch F. Fletch
Apr 1st, 2009
02:03:09 AM
. . . when you've got both studio heads and unions tearing the profits to pieces with their bullshit. Same thing with the auto industry; it sucks that things are bad, but at some point we have to acknowledge that marginally-skilled labor requisite of nothing higher than a GED might not be worth six figures a year and lifetime benefits. As far as the studios go, they'll do well to remember that those in the horse-and-buggy business didn't gain their shares back in a changing market by making it harder to buy the same old surrey. In these times of downturn, people need to remember that the purpose of the economy is not to provide jobs or keep any specific business afloat. The only thing the economy has ever been capable of meeting demand and supply. If you can't shift your supply to the demands of the market, you either fail as a business or your market goes to the next available opportunity cost. After hearing Fox at ShoWest declaring that they'd like to set a $5 premium on certain tickets atop of their regular price, I think having a studio or two fail in this economy isn't the worst thing. And if those studios happen to be . . . say . . . Fox and the Weinsteins, I can't really pretend to be that upset or surprised.
Attack of the Clones
by Bass Ackwards
Apr 1st, 2009
02:05:23 AM
That was a big deal leak wasn't it (in fact Harry ran his orgasmic review based on the pirated version if I recall correctly).

by saint seiya
Apr 1st, 2009
02:05:26 AM
http://img213.imageshack.us/my .php?image=pdvd000a.jpg
DGDB - You're welcome!
by Happyfat73
Apr 1st, 2009
02:05:51 AM
Hey, The Australian film industry got reamed in the ass on our local content quotas when we signed an FTA with the USA (much cheaper for local networks to buy the rights to American product than get behind domestic productions)... Aussie crews gotta eat too, you know.

by saint seiya
Apr 1st, 2009
02:06:13 AM
http://img213.imageshack.us/im g213/6905/pdvd000a.jpg
Here is what I hate about the Movie Business..
by conspiracy
Apr 1st, 2009
02:09:54 AM
In a restaurant...you eat dinner before you pay. The unspoken rule is this...if you get served crappy food, there is a good chance you won't have to pay, provided you complained from the first few bites, at the very least you'll get a new plate.

But the way Hollywood sets this up...you pay before you take the first bite...hell, you pay based upon 30 seconds of a 2 hour movie and the pompous ramblings of what are usually some bought and paid for "critics", then 20 minutes into what turns out to be shit...they typically won't refund your $ if you walk out.

Oh...you can demand your money back...but it isn't often they will give it too you...Nope....you pay up front..and when the movie sucks you don't have much recourse.

The Box office should be at the exit...if you leave before the half way point because it sucks ass..no charge.

Why this rant here? because the way I see it Hollywood owes me at least one pirated movie per year...Fuck, they owe me three for Cloverfield alone...one to pay me back for the money I wasted watching it...1 more awarded for damages for the 80 mintes I'll never get back, and one more for pain and suffering.

watching it now
by breathwillowmist
Apr 1st, 2009
02:09:59 AM
Im about an hour and ten minutes into the workprint at the moment. While I do realize this isnt the final product I cant see how adding 14 minutes to it will fix the problems im seeing. The acting is pretty good but the story is such a let down. Its got a very slow pace after the beginning 20 or so minutes. All in all I will check out the final product and see how things go but this is a very huge letdown as I cant see them turning what so far is an ok movie into an amazing one with a few new scenes.
"Some men just want to watch the world burn."
by CGI_Pants
Apr 1st, 2009
02:10:14 AM
Down with the system!

Screw Mr. Beaks' friends! Man, my friends have lost their jobs too, but the only difference is their jobs were not cool and didn't pay well and my friends are now losing their houses and having to make hard choices about what to do next.

Come back when we're talking about real life and not the effect that movie downloads are going to have on your wimpy friends.

Ad hominem attacks work best.

I won't be downloading this because I have better uses of my time, bandwidth, and hard drive. Thanks for letting me know about it though so I can follow the hysteria!
Love this shit!
IT'S NOT PIRACY KILLING THE STUDIO'S, IT'S SHITTY MOVIES!!!FACT!
by THEFUCKINGCREEPYTHINMAN
Apr 1st, 2009
02:11:05 AM
Why don't the studio's try to produce movies for less than 100 to 300 million dollars and actually try to hire good directors, good writers and MAKE SOME GOOD FUCKING MOVIES!!!
Movies leak all the time
by Monkey Butler
Apr 1st, 2009
02:11:23 AM
Beaks, can't believe you don't remember the Hulk leak. Mori had a massive sanctimonious bitch about it here, and was roundly outbitched by tb'ers for his hypocrisy. I think you've done the only thing you can do in this situation - you're a news site, it'd be remiss not to report this news, but you've managed to make the point about "piracy bad" without resorting to Mori's level of basically saying "it's OK when I do it because I'm a professional".
Thanks for the exposure!
by EjkoUSC
Apr 1st, 2009
02:12:33 AM
Dark Horizons didnt report it. Didnt hear of it anywhere else. Another case of AICN the biggest movie site on the net (i think) reporting something while claiming they didnt report it. Thanks for the exposure! You know this cant be contained but AICN dedicating a headline to it sure wont help matters. At all. You guys are silly. Besides times are tight. Its the great depression didnt you hear! ;)
Why the fuck
by Series7
Apr 1st, 2009
02:13:41 AM
Is Deadpool not mentioned in the trailers? Is he some secert? Is there a reason I only see trailers for this movie on Cartoon Network? Is the name Deadpool to menacing sounding? I mean they do that WHOLE stupid Blob, Cyclops, Kitten, Minx, Fozzie, Kermit, Miss Piggy, Animal line up of all the Marvel people in this movie but no Deadpool? I mean its not like they are showing the Blob eating the Wasp? Seriously, is Deadpool suppose to be some sort of surprise, like this movie was trying to be till it got leaked? Ahhhh Hood why couldn't you have just made another sequel to your only worthwhile accomplishment in life American Kickboxer.
I've heard that Harry Potter makers are......
by Mundungus
Apr 1st, 2009
02:15:25 AM
... only putting prints together for a few screenings then disassembling the prints, otherwise they plan to keep the film segmented until it has to be sent to distribution. It seems like a good plan since it has been complete since 2008 and they have a bunch of HP fans who were pissed at WB for pushing it out 9 months.

It seems as though film companies should spend more effort refining their chain of custody security than trying to murder john doe downloader in the courts.

How can they not know who's copy was pirated?

I know a bank that fired people because of piracy.
by Stalin vs Predator
Apr 1st, 2009
02:17:37 AM
Specifically, because they plundered a few dozen accounts.

Yeah, just as "the crisis" is the best excuse now, allowing thousands of company executives to do whatever they want and blame "the crisis", "the piracy" is an even better excuse for several industries. Get ready for holy calls of: "We need more online surveillance and content control in Web 2.0, because WOLVERINE TUK ER JERBS!"

Piracy has existed forever....
by DrunkyMcLush
Apr 1st, 2009
02:20:14 AM
.... and the world is still turning..... who would want to download Wolverine anyway? It looks HORRIBLE and so far it seems that that is the general consensus....... Also -- BEAKS...... I had no idea that this was going on until you posted it.... in trying to keep people from downloading it you just opened a can of worms and now even more people are downloading it because of your post..... make sure you don't tell your friends that when they lose their jobs.......
Pirate copy reviews.
by goldenage
Apr 1st, 2009
02:21:00 AM
Please have harry post an op-ed piece stating categorically that neither he (or any writer associated with this site) have ever watched a non-studio sanction pirated copy of a move and commented about it on the site.

Or shut the fuck up.

Nice
by AgentCross
Apr 1st, 2009
02:21:55 AM
I wouldn't of know had you not said anything, now Im downloading it. Thanks for telling us! :P
Serious
by AgentCross
Apr 1st, 2009
02:24:04 AM
I'm not joking, why didn't you just stay quiet?
Attack of the Clones
by Son of the Suns
Apr 1st, 2009
02:25:48 AM
http://www.aintitcool.com/disp lay.cgi?id=11796 Pot. Kettle. Black. Failing Editorial Standards.

by Son of the Suns
Apr 1st, 2009
02:26:52 AM
remove the space in that URL for it to work.
Son of the Suns
by breathwillowmist
Apr 1st, 2009
02:28:58 AM
went to the link and damn... definetly makes AICN look like a bunch of hypocrites right now
Fox Threatened AICN.com
by Media Messiah
Apr 1st, 2009
02:30:03 AM
At least, that is what this article seems to suggest, if you read between the lines. When has AICN.com refused to publish advanced fan reviews that are authentic, in the past?
Can't feel bad for Fox
by Series7
Apr 1st, 2009
02:30:19 AM
They gave us Marley and Me, they deserve every bad thing that comes to them for that gift from Satan (or God depending on who's side your on).
Harry's Famous Attack Of The Clones Review...
by Media Messiah
Apr 1st, 2009
02:32:09 AM
...from a bootleg copy? Can anyone square that with this latest edict?
I miss the old days of this site - before the paychecks
by Professor_Monster
Apr 1st, 2009
02:35:49 AM
when badasses worked here.
Bravo
by SiouxieSioux
Apr 1st, 2009
02:36:52 AM
That's all I have to say.
Answers would be awesome
by breathwillowmist
Apr 1st, 2009
02:38:46 AM
I doubt anything will be said in response to this. Im just curious as since you say you talked to Harry about the leak... did he ever mention how he might look like a hypocrite? Since he reviewed a pirated copy of Star Wars in the past on this site. Did he bring up how stupid he might come off here? Honestly?
Pirates
by breathwillowmist
Apr 1st, 2009
02:42:26 AM
I have never met a person in real life who has been against pirating of music or movies. Maybe its my age group(mid 20s), maybe its because I dont know anyone personally in the movie industry. Not everyone knows how to pirate and get these movies early or the first week they are in theaters... but everytime I find one of these movies and show my friends they are grateful. Never once have I had anyone get self-righteous like you try to in your original news story. Laughable in my opinion... but whatever
"banning anyone who expressed an opinion"
by Alonzo Mosely
Apr 1st, 2009
02:42:45 AM
Ahh, the true spirit of the internet...
The End Is Nigh!
by Ace of Wands
Apr 1st, 2009
02:42:51 AM
"And there is not one shred of evidence that pirated films negatively impact ticket sales."

Fuck, it IS the End of Days, I'm in complete and total agreement with DanyGlovers_DickBlood

Go on, Beaks, prove to me how piracy is damaging ticket sales when those sales are UP and ways to pirate are greater that ever. This is a MYTH created by the film industry- who also try to guilt us by associating piracy to the slave trade, drug running and child abuse (don't know how the anti-piracy adverts run in the States but that is very much how they play here in the U.K). I'd have thought they would have found a way to throw in canibalised necrophillia while they were at it.

In truth they're probablly behind some of the more major leaks themselves- no such thing as bad publicity, after all.

fingers crossed avatar leaks
by cool_britannia79
Apr 1st, 2009
02:43:59 AM
and I really DONT have to pay Fox to see a movie this year.
Fox released it themselves so they can blame the low BO
by Professor_Monster
Apr 1st, 2009
02:45:38 AM
on the fact that it is available for download. They know they made a piece of shit and this is a brilliant move on their part.
I assume this is a wind up, otherwise, why post it?
by Brody77
Apr 1st, 2009
02:47:08 AM
Looks like all you've done is have everyone going on about piracy yet again. By the way - whoever made the restaurant allegory, I like it.
Alonzo Mosely - so true
by Professor_Monster
Apr 1st, 2009
02:47:33 AM
Drew the cock suck McWeeny banned me twice from this place because he couldn't argue points I brought up.
it is pretty dull
by breathwillowmist
Apr 1st, 2009
02:48:04 AM
I am having trouble even bringing myself to finishing the movie. Got about 30 or so minutes left. Wraith and Wolverine are just about to go get Gambit. The movie is dull as shit though. I mean its great seeing Wolverine again as I think Hugh Jackman is awesome in the part, but my god the movie is just fucking slow as shit most of the time.
Get fucked fatty here's my take...
by alucardvsdracula
Apr 1st, 2009
02:50:59 AM
Even watching the thing for free thanks to those swarthy pirates I still felt ripped off. It was that fucking bad. End of review. Oh and Harry, if you want to help the Hollywood goldmine some more, don't publish such a pathetic article in the first place which may as well have been titled "ATTENTION, WOLVERINE WORKPRINT NOW AVAILABLE FOR FREEEEE DOWNLOAD FOLKS... BUT WHATEVER YOU DO DON'T MENTION IT TO YOUR FRIENDS AND DON'T TALK ABOUT IT TO ME!!!!! Sorry but fuck em, if some overpaid dickless corporte stooge is stupid enough to leak this in the first place then they deserve to get ass fucked by the general public.
Heads are gonna roll at the DFX house!
by sevadro
Apr 1st, 2009
02:53:24 AM
Somebody really screwed the pooch this time. The people I really feel bad for is the cast and crew. Working hard for months, re-shoots, hoping to please the fans and now the early reviews seem to suggest the internerds are aiming to shred this bitch. In the end though, the studio is ultimately responsible. They really should of had this print on lockdown.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
by Toilet_Terror
Apr 1st, 2009
02:53:45 AM
That's so screwy.
Film Business & The Economy
by ArmageddonProductions
Apr 1st, 2009
02:57:03 AM
The reason the film business might be doing poorly in these times has to do with the fact that the studios are being run by their marketing departments in order to "maximize profits", rather than by artists and artistic vision. The biggest money-makers in history, aside from maybe THE DARK KNIGHT, have all been huge gambles (STAR WARS, E.T., JAWS, TITANIC, even GONE WITH THE WIND and THE WIZARD OF OZ), but nothing like that will ever get made in today's overly-greedy studio system, not when you can just handily remake movies that were making money ten years ago and stick a Jonas Brother in it. Instead of paying Brad Pitt 20 million dollars, actors should all make a regular working wage (which would also weed out people who are strictly there for a massive payday) and participate in the profits. If a movie does well, they get what they deserve and the profits are distributed evenly. If not, then the studio isn't out 120 million bucks.
Good on ya
by Rev. Artemis Prime
Apr 1st, 2009
03:05:36 AM
While I don't think piracy is killing the industry, I'm glad to see you guys banning reviews. I mean, come on guys. We all wanna see a wolverine movie (a good one anyways). But do we really wanna see it first on some shitty workprint? Kills the fun man.
DFK DFC
by mrbong
Apr 1st, 2009
03:05:37 AM
as in don't fucking know, don't fucking care. if it's a joke, it would have been better to use a film that people are really keen to see (T4, for instance), if it's legit, well, happy days for all that are so passionate about Hugh Jackman.
How utterly Tragic after FOX leeched off Watchmen
by G100
Apr 1st, 2009
03:06:30 AM
You'd have to have a heart of stone not to laugh. What goes around comes around.
Beaks; Your not thinking clearly
by gusradio
Apr 1st, 2009
03:13:34 AM
if you posted this: "there are these pesky little things called talkbacks" and this : "Then I floated the idea of banning anyone who expressed an opinion based on the workprint," What kind of nazi horse-shit is that? Without the talkbacks, this site doesn't exist. Many of your talkbackers are profoundly more entertaining and intelligent than yourself or anyone else employed by AICN. Do you realize how much you completely suck as a (so called) journalist right now? You can't retract this shit. But you should apologize. And like I said Before, this movie will suck. The leak will give mediocre filmmakers a scapegoat for lousy returns in the third week. Piracy can't be good for any industry, but good product sells itself (The Dark Knight). Also what pirate do you know that doesn't also have a huge collection of legitimate dvds, games, and music? The pirate's appetite is insatiable, they can't collect enough.
Let's face it, a review of a leaked screener is BETTER than Harr
by quantize
Apr 1st, 2009
03:14:30 AM
..little previews he gets
Um, guys...only One Website Has This Up
by Darkwood
Apr 1st, 2009
03:17:07 AM
And it's an affiliate of AICN (Drew Mcsweeny no less). Check all the others. No such wolverine spill.
This movie will be delayed!
by ganymede3010
Apr 1st, 2009
03:19:09 AM
This could be a blessing in disguise. I can't believe what I'm reading. How can you screw up Wolverine? You have to be the worst fucking director in the universe (Cough, Sam Rami)to fuck up Wolverine(or Spiderman). This movie will still make money though.
The bottom line is...
by kungfuhustler84
Apr 1st, 2009
03:20:44 AM
if you don't want the people to pirate all the shitty movies you are spending millions of dollars to make, then stopping putting so much energy into shitty cinema, thus forcing pretty much everyone to have to preview things first. If more people trusted Hollywood to not make so many dumb movies, they would probably be much less hesitant to spend their good money at the theaters.

Wolverine is a totaly toss-up. Some people say it's gonna be shit, while others hail it as the next coming of the cinematic bliss train. Personally, I think the movie's gonna suck. I don't plan on pirating it, nor do I plan on seeing it unless I happen to be at a friend's house, and I'm not paying with anything but my free time.

If this really is a leak, whatever. Ha-ha for FOX. Cry me a river you failed douche bags of a film production company.But...

if this is an April Fool's Joke, then that's fucking hilarious.

Hey Whiny
by Happyfat73
Apr 1st, 2009
03:22:24 AM
I'm with you, man... I don't download pirated films unless I have no other option. I downloaded Let the Right One In... but that's because there is no planned release here in Qld. If it was screened here, I'd pay to see it. I also downloaded season 5 of The Wire, which we've been screwed on with the DVD release. I see downloading pirated gear as a last resort punishment for distributors who are not getting with the program.
Legit...
by Mr. Profit
Apr 1st, 2009
03:22:47 AM
It's being hosted on a few sites. I'm in shock FOX could let this happen to a film so big. By the weekend the DVD will most likely flood the streets. The damage is done. This film is ruined. Average Joe movie watcher who gets his shit off the street 5 for $20 is not going to care about any reshoots, or that the score was temp or that the film is unfinished. To most people who see this, they will just know they saw "Wolverine" early. And they won't see it again in the theater. FOX fucked up BIG TIME.
Darkwood
by Happyfat73
Apr 1st, 2009
03:22:56 AM
I read it on CHUD before I saw it here.
"I did nufink wrong" says Blackbeard
by The_Man_Behind_The_Curtain
Apr 1st, 2009
03:24:00 AM
"I was jus' sailin' the merry seas and saw a copy of Wolverine floatin' in the ocean. I gave it to some folks. Does that make me a pirate? I dunno. I like to think it's the sinkin' of those British naval ships and the parrot on me shoulder. That's for you to decide, my hearties."
that Queen Jackman plays a mean butch
by robzass
Apr 1st, 2009
03:27:02 AM
despite this movie sucking, i'll give him props for that.
Also Wolverine as a child = FAIL
by Mr. Profit
Apr 1st, 2009
03:27:27 AM
I saw the first 10 minutes and was underwhelmed. But then again, I really wasn't excited about the trailer after I saw Wolverine casually walking away from an explosion. Again, FOX fucked up. Do we all think any other high profile Summer movie will be leaked too? It seems like this shit is going to only get worse.
When all actors are replaced with avatars...
by Castlemonster
Apr 1st, 2009
03:29:31 AM
...They can reboot this series. Reviews for this aren't something I'd go through the trouble finding.
Fox better appologize to deadpool
by BrainFart
Apr 1st, 2009
03:31:33 AM
and all the fans that almost paid hard earned money to get fucked. Imagine a rape victim getting a bill, thats how i would have felt. Now i know its not "done" yet so maybe the final will be better. it would have been a better movie had they not crammed deadpool in it killing him in the process. THIS IS SPIDERMAN 3 ALL OVER AGAIN.
"Yee gads fellas!"
by kungfuhustler84
Apr 1st, 2009
03:32:31 AM
"Our shitty movie has been leaked on thosed damned interwebs! Now all will know of our shitty movie, and no one will want to pay for it! Whatever shall we do?"

There are reviews sprinkling the internet as we speak. If this is an April Fool's joke, there are a lot of people in on it.

Marvel take back your properties
by BrainFart
Apr 1st, 2009
03:35:57 AM
These studios dont learn from their mistakes. "spiderman 3 was successful and we shit all over their beloved characters so lets do it again"
They got my 8$ with X3, but not this time!
by xbagboy
Apr 1st, 2009
03:36:27 AM
I watched the first 15 min and it was really sub par. Scenes felt rushed, sabretooth wire jumps look awful. I like Jackman as Wolvie but something is missing!
HAHAHAHAHAHA
by kungfuhustler84
Apr 1st, 2009
03:38:30 AM
Holy shit Fox.

Wouldn't it be great if this just kept happening and they went out of business? At least there would be less boring, distractingly dumb previews.

"honest injun"? I'm gonna have to contact the ACLU
by JuanSanchez
Apr 1st, 2009
03:39:35 AM
Ryan Reynolds was perfect casting
by BrainFart
Apr 1st, 2009
03:40:55 AM
so was hugh jackman and they still fucked it up.
Ryan Reynolds was perfect casting
by BrainFart
Apr 1st, 2009
03:40:56 AM
so was hugh jackman and they still fucked it up.
All that said
by kungfuhustler84
Apr 1st, 2009
03:42:35 AM
Piracy could potentially ruin the movie business. While production companies like Fox consistently make crap to be avoided, there are other companies, like Miramax,Universal, Warner Brothers that all have made at least a few good movies. I would hate to see any of them go down the drain that Fox might.
Another good production company
by kungfuhustler84
Apr 1st, 2009
03:45:55 AM
MARVEL.

Now they fucking got it right. Whadya say Fox? Wanna give that X men property back to the people it belongs to? I want my Phoenix Saga done the right way, in space and everything.

Just finished watching it.
by cossack_says_die
Apr 1st, 2009
03:48:27 AM
It wasn't horrible like some people say. I didn't mind it. Although what the fuck did they do to Deadpool. They fucked that shit up bit time. I was screaming at my computer screen. I love the temp score, which was actually the score from the transformers. It was also really interesting to see a working copy of a movie. Its weird to see all the wires on people, and the unfinished FX. I will still probably spend the 10 bucks to see it with my friends when it comes out just to see what kind of musical score it will have and how the FX turn out.
Next in the franchise:
by Castlemonster
Apr 1st, 2009
03:50:11 AM
X-Babies! Same cast!
I heard Deadpool gets Cyclops powers at the end...
by kungfuhustler84
Apr 1st, 2009
03:53:51 AM
...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!!

...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! HAAAA!!!!

What the fuck Fox? Cyclops powers? Laser beams and Terminator vision? Do you even read the comics? That is the funniest shit I have read in a long time.


by Warloch
Apr 1st, 2009
03:54:29 AM
Who needs Hollywood anyway.
Fuck You Beaks, You on Fox's Payroll Now?
by MrInsidious
Apr 1st, 2009
03:55:20 AM
Talks of banning people who post is ridiculous, the fact that the only thing that stopped you from doing it is that it would be to much work for your fat fingers is just down right scary. Please remind yourself that all of us make this website possible, that those of us who prefer to watch a piece of shit like Wolverine for free as opposed to paying 10$ for said piece of shit are implied to have any less honor is something you should be ashamed of. Long have the men in charge at Fox pissed all over us, long have they made quick and dirty comic movies with the sole intent of raking in cash that I feel no pity for them should we the dishonorable choose not to line the pockets of people who dont give two shits about us or our opinions. This site has been a daily visit for me, and never have I been offended the way I am today. As far as Im concerned, people like us dishonorable folks who see these shitty movies for free online actually do a service for lovers of cinema everywhere. If the box office is terrible, perhaps in time Fox and like minded studios will figure out that their audience will not accept just anything, and that we expect them to respect the franchises that we all hold so near and dear to our hearts. If Wolverine had been good upon my blasphemous free online viewing, I would have gladly seen it again in the theaters as well as recommend it to my friends. Instead I will do my fellow celluloid citizens a favor and advise them to steer clear of this monumental failure of a movie. This is what this website is supposed to be Beaks, a voice for us the fans who pay for these movies, not the lip service of the studios who fuck us in the ass. Shame on you Mr Beaks for your insulting note, shame on you for not at the very least taking these reviews from us pirates in order to empower us to take a stand against these soulless, heartless studios, mostly just shame on you for acting like a complete douche bag. May God have mercy on your soul.
Agreed that the people at the bottom
by tomdolan04
Apr 1st, 2009
03:55:29 AM
always get it in the neck. During this recession the people at the top are still living wealthy, healthy lives. Unless there is a fundamental change in the greed in the higher tiers, then the layoffs at the bottom are still going to happen piracy or no piracy.

This isn't conding piracy - theft is theft and it impacts on the industry. The trouble is if the Workprint of Wolverine was good, then it will still make an insane amount of money at the box-office. People still underestimate the critical importance of word of mouth.

Its a fanboy project - the merchandise, boost in the Wolverine franchise, comics, DVD/Blu-Ray sales etc would be insane if the quality of the product was good. It's looking like its average at best.

Additionally I wasn't aware that it was 'out there' until I read this page today.

- 1 for Beaks
by dailysportspages
Apr 1st, 2009
03:56:29 AM
:pity:
I'm watching Let the Right One In
by kungfuhustler84
Apr 1st, 2009
04:02:32 AM
I paid to watch it at the theatres, I paid for it on DVD, and I never pirated it. I wouldn't want anyone too. Instead, I spend a good $25 to see it more than once, because it's actually a movie with some patience and some heart. Earlier I watched Be Kind Rewind. Again, I had already seen it at the theater, and again I bought it so I could rewatch it in the comfort of my own home. I spent all that money because it was well directed, well acted, had a lot of heart, and was just generally a good movie.

fox, start making good movies, and I gurantee you at least $30 from me for really well made movie you create.

Start circulating a fake one...
by Frogurt
Apr 1st, 2009
04:04:52 AM
Comeon geeks - someone needs to start circulating a non-Wolverine torrent labelled as Wolverine to frustrate this. (if Fox aren't already)
I would rather see it in theaters
by abovo
Apr 1st, 2009
04:05:33 AM
Watching it on your cmputer.....
by Playkins
Apr 1st, 2009
04:08:13 AM
Versus first weekend with a crowd on a giant screen with a sound system.

No comparison.

Oh, and I know someone that watched it...
by Playkins
Apr 1st, 2009
04:10:53 AM
...adn they said there were obviously rough edits and very, very temp effects all over the place.

Doesn't seem like a very fair way to pass judgement on it if you ask me.

"creative licences"? people dont want to
by BrainFart
Apr 1st, 2009
04:10:59 AM
see creative licences. They want to see their heroes the way they read about them. Doing otherwise is lying and stealing their money.
We had this when The Hulk leaked.
by chuffsterUK
Apr 1st, 2009
04:12:12 AM
And AICN came over all`Holier Than Thou`-very hypocritical if you ask me!
I'll be honest
by kungfuhustler84
Apr 1st, 2009
04:18:28 AM
I want this movie to do well, just cause I'm an optimistic sucker that hopes and prays they do Wolverine in Japan for a sequel, and they get someone to do it right.
E_Nizzle: Come on, man.....
by Playkins
Apr 1st, 2009
04:18:36 AM
Are you going to be able to make a fair judgment about a painting if you only see 1/4 of it?

Kids? Fuck you, elitist twat. I'm sick to death of "fans" like you.

oh...
by Playkins
Apr 1st, 2009
04:19:22 AM
And you obviously didn't pay for it, so why the fuck are you complaining?
I pirated a c64 game once...
by Potatino
Apr 1st, 2009
04:19:52 AM
...I know, I'm a trouble maker!
Just make it
by kungfuhustler84
Apr 1st, 2009
04:21:42 AM
Wolverine versus the Hand and maybe toss in a Silver Samurai cameo. make it a story about Yakuza, and the warrior's code, and his love interest with Yuriko as Lady Deathstrike, and maybe toss in a Mojo cameo when she gets he big claws.
Hugh Jackman is Wolverteen!
by Castlemonster
Apr 1st, 2009
04:24:11 AM
Nobody understands him!
If you simply MUST be a pirate, then please...
by BurnHollywood
Apr 1st, 2009
04:30:40 AM
...Stick to capturing cargo ships full of Ukrainian tanks and oil tankers.

Kids, piracy isn't cool, unless its a Gore Verbinski trilogy that seriously disappoints in the last act.

Let's hope they capture these scoundrels and hang them in chains, but not before they sing some corny fuckin' pirate song that will make at least one AICN critic jizz in his pants.

E Nizzle
by kungfuhustler84
Apr 1st, 2009
04:32:49 AM
You talking to me? I'm just laughing my ass off. I promise you will never see me watching Wolverine in the theater. You don't even know me dude, trust me.
Haha nevermind
by kungfuhustler84
Apr 1st, 2009
04:36:14 AM
E_Nizzle: Not a chance.
by Playkins
Apr 1st, 2009
04:36:23 AM
Not when you're fucking with my livelihood. Download a movie for free and bitch about it on the internet? Maybe you ought to concern yourself less with my "fat girlfriend" and seek other forms of entertainment. Hopefully something that meets the maturity level you're trying to project. Opera, maybe? Don't forget this is a movie based on a comic book. It's not Puccini, and it isn't trying to be.
E Nizzle
by kungfuhustler84
Apr 1st, 2009
04:37:42 AM
Asshole of the night.
Paybacks a Bitch
by Mr.LordBronco
Apr 1st, 2009
04:38:07 AM
Rupert Murdoch and his coke-fueled sycophants just got what they deserve. I feel bad for Jackman because he put the product through, but this is just deserts for a media empire that is the biggest steaming pile of shit to hit these shores since the Japs attacked us in WW2 These jaded fucktards at fox will continue to profit despite a big leak...but it does not look good when the the crucial fanbase has already seen the movie. Again, don't mean to disparage Hugh Jackman-the trailers actually looked pretty good-and he should be congratulated for being creative. He just hooked his horse to the wrong wagon (Fox media whatever). *Rant off* -MLB
I'm pretty sure the final cut with all the fx...
by kungfuhustler84
Apr 1st, 2009
04:39:34 AM
will still have Daredevil with Terminator sight and laser eyes.

And boy is that some dumb sheeyit.

I don't watch pirated movies
by Roborob
Apr 1st, 2009
04:40:20 AM
Yes I am the mug who only buys legitamate DVD of a movie, I don't watch films on the internet, I don't download them either. I am not a Knock off Nigel.
Now daredevils in it?
by BrainFart
Apr 1st, 2009
04:41:37 AM
Nope, not Daredevil?
by kungfuhustler84
Apr 1st, 2009
04:44:53 AM
Deadpool! But why not add a couple of Daredevil and Elektra (played by Jennifer Garner) cameos in there to dumb up the damn thing.
/decapitate/
by BrainFart
Apr 1st, 2009
04:45:47 AM
now had that line been in a yellow square box i would have rolled and gave fox some props
Check out Wolverine's "intended origins"
by kungfuhustler84
Apr 1st, 2009
04:46:45 AM
On Wikipedia. In one of them he's a really evolved form of an actual animal Wolverine, but the other one was actually kind of cool, but Sabretooth was the dad. Who the hell decided to make him a sissy pilgrim boy in Canada?
E_Nizzle: you're not even watching a finished product.
by Playkins
Apr 1st, 2009
04:46:52 AM
When you go to a restaurant, do you run back to the kitchen to bitch about the food before the chef is finished?

Opinions like assholes, huh? More like an asshole with an opinion.

just once.....
by Playkins
Apr 1st, 2009
04:49:29 AM
...I want yto see you admit that this movie isn't finished.

I know for a fact that they are still working feverishly on it.

Go ahead, placate me. Just admit it.

DVDs can still be nice
by kungfuhustler84
Apr 1st, 2009
04:50:34 AM
Invest in a nice televison, and set your time movie clack back about three months, and it's fine.
kungfuhustler84:
by Playkins
Apr 1st, 2009
04:55:25 AM
I thought his cannon origin is that he was a child during the Victorian era that accidentally killed someone the first time he popped his claws?
poor ryan reynolds he channelled
by BrainFart
Apr 1st, 2009
04:56:35 AM
wade wilson when he was allowed to. I think ill just send him my 8 bucks instead. he earned it. And it looks like when jackman said he really cared about the fans he was refering to his fans and not the comics fans. Please oh please let the finished product be an improvement. Wolverine and Sabertooth had a tender moment together WTF. Why not just make them fuck because that would be just as beleivable. Its akin to having Batman and Joker shake hands and say "ill always be there for you bro".
E_Nizzle:
by Playkins
Apr 1st, 2009
04:56:48 AM
I'll tell you for sure, neither is the edit. They've got a good two weeks before it has to go out for processing.
who THE FUCK cares about wolverine ????
by Motoko Kusanagi
Apr 1st, 2009
04:58:38 AM
seriously.

A V A T A R. December. Nothing else matters.

today is Randy Orton's birthday
by Jesiah
Apr 1st, 2009
04:59:33 AM
I'm going to Wrestlemania 25 on Sunday in Texas (I'm from soCal). I don't care if Randy is supposed to be the "bad guy" If that cocksucking bastard hhh wins I'm fucking rioting. Oh, and fuck the title of this movie. So very fucking insulting title
AVATAR:
by Playkins
Apr 1st, 2009
04:59:58 AM
Of which we've seen NOTHING. If ever there was a movie that someone could by no mean logically form an opinion about at this point, it is Avatar.
E_Nizzle:
by Playkins
Apr 1st, 2009
05:00:38 AM
this leak doesn't hurt the industry
by Movie_Grinder
Apr 1st, 2009
05:00:58 AM
if anything - it'll rev up the interest in the movie. The people who download it can be divided into two groups: 1) the geeks who'll go to see it anyway ro see what changes has been made, and 2) people who wouldn't have gone to the cinema but wanted to see the movie for free. And it's professional of AICN not to publish any reviews.
whoops: E_Nizzle:
by Playkins
Apr 1st, 2009
05:01:35 AM
Ok, it's a deal. The Dude abides.
FBI caught me downloading a torrent of MAC & ME...
by BurnHollywood
Apr 1st, 2009
05:02:38 AM
...It's been 18 mos. and I'm not allowed to turn off my PC until I've seeded it at least five times.

It's just NOT worth it, kids.

One instance where a leak hurt a movie:
by Playkins
Apr 1st, 2009
05:05:10 AM
The Happening.

EVERYONE badmouthed that thing before it came out.

Of course, that was perfectly justifiable. It was AWFUL. And I normally like MN Shammy movies.

Bjornegar
by mrbong
Apr 1st, 2009
05:05:26 AM
you flatter me - quite unintended, but now that i read my comment again, i cannot argue with your findings!
Burn hollywood to the fuckin ground
by BrainFart
Apr 1st, 2009
05:10:56 AM
Bunch of cuntz tried to rob me of my hard earned fuckin money. Ive had enough of this shit. I feel lied to and cheated. This is the best thing that can happen for the movie industry, start leaking movies in advance so the public wont be tricked into seeing the shit they slaped together by making a cool trailer. If a movie is leaked and is good it will dominate the box office, just look at taken, gran torino. they leaked and guess fuckin what there raking in tons more money than they ever would have. If something is quality people will pay for it. If your tricking the consumer youll earn their hatred.
Freddy vs. Wolverine!
by Castlemonster
Apr 1st, 2009
05:15:29 AM
With Huch Jackman as Freddy Krueger and Jack Black as Wolverine!
Something this terrible could not have happened to worse SOB's.
by The Tao of Joe
Apr 1st, 2009
05:18:28 AM
Fox got what they deserved. After the stink they kicked up about "Watchmen" (who cares if that movie sucked, Fox still acted like rat bastards about it). They're going to be selling this thing in barbershops across the country, $5 a pop. On, and Tom Rothman, I got bad news for you, the comic fans that you don't care about whatsoever? Nearly all of them know how to use the internet. Hahaha. Who perpetrated this crime? The Comedian? Hope that percentage of the gross you guys are skimming of the Watchmen will heal the gaping wound that will be the box-office results for "X-Men Origins: Wolverine." BTW, fanboys, you can kiss that Magneto movie goodbye, as well as the FF and Daredevil reboots. Probably a good thing, though. This is hilarious.
The Tao of Joe:
by Playkins
Apr 1st, 2009
05:23:17 AM
I'm kinda hoping that Marvel Studios gets back the rights to their characters, but I'm also pretty sure they're going to fuck up pretty bad eventually. They came really, really close to wrecking Incredible Hulk, so they're not perfect.

I do hope they get them back, for no other reason that it would be fun to see characters pop up into other movies like they do in the comics.

The problem is...
by executiverocker
Apr 1st, 2009
05:26:54 AM
You have now brought a lot of attention to a movie which a lot of people (including me) didnt know was available illegally online and in good shape. I don't think a story on this matter was appropriate.
actually
by ranma627
Apr 1st, 2009
05:34:25 AM
I found the workprint that leaked for the remake of Halloween to be a lot better than the theatrical release even though both versions weren't good. I'll avoid this workprint because of the lack of effects and also the fact that I don't even really want to see this movie once, let alone twice.
and yes this story was unneccesary
by ranma627
Apr 1st, 2009
05:35:27 AM
It just helps to further exploit the fact the movie was leaked. I wouldn't have known otherwise.
So how reviews differ from Harry's Star Wars Ep 2 in 2002?
by Mister McClane
Apr 1st, 2009
05:36:44 AM
Saw via a secret source, and reviewed on this site. So why the high moral ground now? Why can't people post reviews, AOTC wasn't finished either...
Since when does AICN doesn't run reviews that stem from workprin
by kaim
Apr 1st, 2009
05:36:47 AM
Sorry guys, but AICN is in danger of destroying it's reputation with this. Over the years there have been countless reviews from people who had seen some kind of "workprint" - and nobody cared if there was anything "illegal" to it. Didn't Harry himself write a review about one of the new STAR WARS movies, where he described how he saw the film "illegally" in some hotel room, always fearing that some SWAT-team might storm in any minute. And now, all of a sudden, you start to care? Know what I think: there is some huge financial interest involved here (and I don't talk about WOLVERINE'S Box Office here...). The question ist: how much money was on the table, exactly?
In an interview with Tim Burton
by BrainFart
Apr 1st, 2009
05:36:56 AM
he said he has never read a comicbook. He directed batman and hes never read a comicbook. That speaks volumes about studios. They could give 2 shits about the product they sell as long as they can advertise the fuck out of it. We are to blame, we the public who is fooled time and time again all while the studios are trying less each time. They think we are retarded sheep with money for wool. We need to apply negative reinforcement. Remember when they made new coke and people stopped buying it. Now imagine if we all just said fuck it and kept buying it, then we would all be drinking new coke still.
We the people find the defendant guilty!
by The Outlander
Apr 1st, 2009
05:38:27 AM
This feels more like seizure of evidence in court case against 20th Century Fox rather than movie piracy. THE LIST OF CHARGES: X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009) Dragonball Evolution (2009) Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li (2009) The Day the Earth Stood Still (2008) Max Payne (2008) Babylon A.D. (2008) The X Files: I Want to Believe (2008) Space Chimps (2008) Meet Dave (2008) Jumper (2008) AVPR: Aliens vs Predator - Requiem (2007) The Seeker: The Dark Is Rising (2007) Pathfinder (2007) Eragon (2006) My Super Ex-Girlfriend (2006) The Omen (2006) X-Men: The Last Stand (2006) Fantastic Four (2005) Hide and Seek (2005) Elektra (2005) AVP: Alien vs. Predator (2004)
Watching Wolverine online is bad.
by Iowa Snot Client
Apr 1st, 2009
05:38:48 AM
Harry seeing Attack of the Clones early and posting about it... good. He's a professional and an all-around good person. Now go enjoy the latest from Script Girl.
IT WAS HIS SLED. THERE I JUST SAVED YOU TWO BOOBLESS HOURS.
by gruemanlives
Apr 1st, 2009
05:41:50 AM
HAHAHAHAHA
by the_shogun_gunslinger
Apr 1st, 2009
05:52:19 AM
OOOOOooooohhhh FOX ;)

Isn;t it funny guys? We bitch and moan about trailers and we always get nothing but "OOOHHHH well just WAIT and SEE it!"... Well guess what? I just SAW it and it was FUCKING DREADFUL! A temp score and a few unfinished FX shots of CGI planes isnt enough to make me hate a movie.

What IS enough is shit acting, bad plot and a general raping of source material. Avoid it guys unless you think 15 mins or reshoots will save an already 2 hour clusterfuck.

FUCK YOU FOX!!!!!

Oh, and go ahead and ban me.. but know this... if you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

it sucks, whether you watch it now or in theaters
by Gungan Slayer
Apr 1st, 2009
05:53:02 AM
movies got shit written all over it. Can't see how one would have high hopes for this
Outlander that's a stunning list of failures
by Toilet_Terror
Apr 1st, 2009
05:57:32 AM
Even more stunning is that I've seen seven of them. What's wrong with me? The notion that this was a VFX intern's nerd-venge for the Watchmen suit is hilarious.
what a load of crap
by cool_britannia79
Apr 1st, 2009
06:06:53 AM
where's wolverines edge gone? 2 days after his girlfriend croaks and he's joking about in a boxing ring? Will.I.Am can't act, and Deadpools fate is a fucking crime. Download this, DO NOT GIVE FOX YOUR MONEY
took me 15 seconds
by TheExterminator
Apr 1st, 2009
06:17:11 AM
to find it. and harry you're not going to have much luck telling people not to dl a fox film
look at it this way....
by BendersShinyAss
Apr 1st, 2009
06:18:33 AM
I'm in the middle of watching it... and im actually getting jazzed up to see the actual finished print at the cinema.
Missing the point
by WT
Apr 1st, 2009
06:19:14 AM
A studio blockbuster needs to make three times its original budget. That profit is then put into more experimental films. Without Titanic, do you really think Fox would have spent $70m on Fight Club? Personally I'm against piracy. OK, you can argue that it has led to the development of Itunes etc, but then World War led to the mass production of pencillin, didn't make it right. OK, I'm rambling now. Also, nothing beats watching a film in a cinema.
Pull Your Story
by Tigermyth36
Apr 1st, 2009
06:19:16 AM
All you are doing is advertising that the work print exists. I had not idea. Saw you article and jumped on a few sites and there it was. Figured you were April fooling us. I wonder how many additional people have watched the movie because of your article. Not me. Even free, I have no interest in this trash.
those added 14 minutes...
by Blancoshadow
Apr 1st, 2009
06:22:30 AM
Deadpool's mask is added...fanboys rejoice!!!! Watchmen still fuckin blew!!! Saw it, still better that Spidey 3 aka Tobey Dancing With the Fucking Stars.
And One More.
by The Outlander
Apr 1st, 2009
06:25:29 AM
Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer (2007)
Enough boo-hooing over Fox's bottom line.
by The Tao of Joe
Apr 1st, 2009
06:29:42 AM
Karma's a bitch and they had it coming. http://tinyurl.com/cb7cym
Blancoshadow
by BrainFart
Apr 1st, 2009
06:30:52 AM
so .... he puts the mask on nods to the camera and is then decapitated droped into a nuclear reactor and has roughly a million tons of concrete droped on him.
actually... its pretty bad
by BendersShinyAss
Apr 1st, 2009
06:33:55 AM
if i didn't know better I'd say there was no real director, only hugh jackman with a camera crew and him yelling "ok, lets do this now"
yeah beaks
by TheExterminator
Apr 1st, 2009
06:34:38 AM
is pretty pretentious...and fond of the word derivative
We don't need another hero !
by theplant
Apr 1st, 2009
06:36:38 AM
All we want is life beyond the internetdome eh ? Actually this is Fox doing brilliant promotion ont the movie.
This is OUR version of people sending Harry films for free. He d
by silentbobafett2
Apr 1st, 2009
06:44:32 AM
This is OUR version of people sending Harry films for free. He don't pay - but he watches them. He slags them off, the company, everything. He even siad this week that FOX don't want him seeing their films but "SOMEONE" sends him films. Well SOMEONE just send us a film... SORRY WE SAW IT BEFORE YOU GUYS! And MR BEAKS your comment about your "friends" lossing jobs is so infuriating! What about everyone loosing jobs around the world right now! What a shame they aren't in cool jobs that can blame the simple pre-release of a SHIT FILM for the reason they lost their jobs. What a great industry that must be.
It's not that bad actually....
by cameron1975willi
Apr 1st, 2009
06:46:55 AM
...with a talented editor the finished article could be better than X3. Don't like the pre-credit sequence for example.
Well, Fox did fuck up Watchmen's release
by ricarleite2
Apr 1st, 2009
06:50:50 AM
So who cares if this piece of crap gets distributed online. I won't be seeing this one, regardless.
I met with a Fox once
by BendersShinyAss
Apr 1st, 2009
06:51:39 AM
back in 2006. had a meeting, talked about my aspirations. told them a plan for a film franchise. can't remember the guys name, (I seem to have wiped it from memory)

basically the guy told me they don't need any new franchise because they have a hundred years of films to re-make and sequelize.

I remember laughing in disbelief at what a cock smoker he came accross as. I was genuinely there to talk business and all this guy could do was flex his muscles about how good he was and how secure he'll be without me.

needless to say, i learned a lot about the reality of filmmaking that day.

The future looks bleak and I'm in agreement with the above poster - karma is a bitch.

derivative
by Potatino
Apr 1st, 2009
06:53:05 AM
is that some sort of maths thing, like when you differenciate or whatever. Oh and the movies studios might be laying people off because of a little thing called the stock market crash/credit crunch/econopolypse not ummm piracy. Just an opinion. Oh and happy april 1st
X3 was god awful, of course this is better than x3
by BrainFart
Apr 1st, 2009
06:53:50 AM
But if the rumors are true that they add Mr Sinister that would tie the movie together beter. There would be a central antagonist because striker didnt do it for me. it made no sense to for striker to make wolverine then say good now kill him and we'll start over with someone else. why not just control wolverine . Thats a pretty big plot hole.
Met with 'a fox headhoncho'
by BendersShinyAss
Apr 1st, 2009
06:53:52 AM
that was meant to read...

what was his name?? can't for the life of me remember. I wonder if he remembers me?

Re:Brainfart
by Blancoshadow
Apr 1st, 2009
07:02:03 AM
Exactly...hahahahaha...So everyone gets what they want. By the way isn't Avatar that fuckin thing on my Xbox Live?
maybe it got leaked in order to attempt to track people download
by Potatino
Apr 1st, 2009
07:02:07 AM
oh i like paranoia
one_guy_from_andromeda
by the_shogun_gunslinger
Apr 1st, 2009
07:03:53 AM
i literally LOL'd during the D-Day scene. So offensive on so many levels hahaha.

Happy April 1st FOX :D :D :D

The temp and unfinished parts had no bearing on the critique of
by cossack_says_die
Apr 1st, 2009
07:07:14 AM
Im judging the movie on story, plot progression, character development and acting. Generally FX don't weigh too much on a critique. This working copy had everything necessary for it to be judged. If I was to take FX into heavy consideration then I would have been one of those fucktards that liked transformers.
Do you think after the studio had them add
by BrainFart
Apr 1st, 2009
07:08:47 AM
deadpool to the cast and Ryan reynolds to play him, Hugh jackman was scared Ryan would be the new captain of the mutant movies. So Hughs creative control was to kill off the character, after all you read most of the original script that was bought for the movie online, they changed the end fight to have wolvie and Sabertooth team up instead of fight(just like SpiderMan3 with harry)
Remember Moriarty berating some for influx of HULK workprint rev
by BadWaldo s Revenge
Apr 1st, 2009
07:11:32 AM
http://www.aintitcool.com/node /15389

Yeah, I don't like piracy, either. There was an anti-piracy ad aired on tv and the only memorable person I remember in that ad was Jim Cameron with a fancy video camera.

OK you hypocrites
by Wolfrankula
Apr 1st, 2009
07:11:50 AM
Remember when the Watchmen lawsuit was in full swing, remember BOYCOTT ROTHMAN AND FOX MOVIES, remember DON'T GO SEE WOLVERINE, FUCK FOX? Well, boys and girls, now you CAN fuck with Fox and Rothman. Fuck them if they lose money. If the current econom ic crisis should be teching us anything it's that MONEY IS NOTHING BUT A METHOD OF ENSLAVEMENT. A penny is worth nothing these days, and a hundred times nothing is still nothing, so what's a dollar worth? When are we going to wake up and realize that without money we could still live, work, create, and be kind to one another and grow as a culture, just like Harry fantasized about in his Marley and Me essay. We can achieve the Star Trek ideal IF WE JUST GOT RID OF FUCKING MONEY!
There was also a workprint of Kill Bill Part 1 that leaked.
by FookU
Apr 1st, 2009
07:17:02 AM
This is what you get for making X-Men 3 and fucking with the Watchmen Fox. LOL.
Didn't Harry review an Attack of the clones workprint?
by lex romero
Apr 1st, 2009
07:19:56 AM
:-/ Erm, so what's the difference from reviewing that and reviewing this film?
I bet fox wished everyone had 56k still
by BrainFart
Apr 1st, 2009
07:22:43 AM
then by the time anyone downloaded the leaked movie it would be june
lex the difference is it's "ok" when Harry does it.
by FookU
Apr 1st, 2009
07:23:10 AM
It's like when your parents smoke but tell you not to. It's ok for them but not for you.
Vic Tayback Sucked!
by Kid Z
Apr 1st, 2009
07:23:15 AM
Uh... am I banned now? Actually, Vic Tayback was okay by me... he WAS "Mel".
lex romero
by the_shogun_gunslinger
Apr 1st, 2009
07:24:35 AM
its different because in 2002 Harry didnt have about 1,000 corporate dicks up his ass and he had what some of call "integrity".

Look it up Harry/Beaks.. you guys might just get some by accident.

but what Harry has never had...
by the_shogun_gunslinger
Apr 1st, 2009
07:32:58 AM
is an edit button.

I can't wait for the year 1999 to get here and the future and all its fancy editorial features will be upon us :D wait, what year is it again?

AICN was built upon piracy and breaking the law
by alpine
Apr 1st, 2009
07:33:30 AM
Oh how the mighty have fallen. In the late 90's and early 00's this was the place to go to find all kinds of illegally leaked spoilers and leaked images. Then Harry sold out. Now the site is a shell of what it once was. Quint started doing reviews. A kid who had never seen a vast library of historic movies but he had seen Jaws. Now we have warnings on AICN about now watching something because of hurting Hollywood business? Aha. I guess the people at AICN finally grew a soul...a decade too late.
no reviews please unless your a plant
by walrusholder
Apr 1st, 2009
07:33:47 AM
I'm sure soon enough we will have a planty review from someone called Octopuss Prime or something that saw a secret showing in Santa Barbara or something and it won't any spoilers and they loved it and you will too if you don't love the usual comic book movie. I'm sure the f/x were still a little choppy too
Consensus: B4 AICN report, # of illegal "seed" minimal...
by BadWaldo s Revenge
Apr 1st, 2009
07:35:13 AM
...now it exploded to over 1500 seeders and 15500 leechers on just one within half a day.

Bigwigs at Fox: "Bring me the head of the leaker!"

We can only hope Jim Cameron and co. keep very, very tight reins on Avatar. So tight not even the mice's asshole can emit a fart.

Did Harry actually say "Honest Injun"?
by chrth
Apr 1st, 2009
07:42:56 AM
Shouldn't he be banned as mentioned in the article for promoting genocide?
This movie was doomed just by the title "X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERIN
by SpyGuy
Apr 1st, 2009
07:47:11 AM
A title like that screams "Hey, X-Men fans! We know you're too stupid to realize a movie simply called WOLVERINE features Wolverine, so we're making the title clumsy and unnecessarily stilted. You know, just like the movie itself."
should have been called wolverine: origins
by lex romero
Apr 1st, 2009
07:50:06 AM
like the comic was. No need for the x-men bit, people aren't stupid, wolvy is the best known of the mutants out there, everyone will know who he is.
Taken
by Tigermyth36
Apr 1st, 2009
07:54:22 AM
I would argue that the buzz from people that watched Taken online got many people to go see it.
What's the difference between us watching it --
by Professor_Monster
Apr 1st, 2009
07:55:49 AM
And one of the fucks here writing a blow by blow scene by scene "review" of the damn thing once it comes out and you've already suckered the comic con crowd out of their mom's and dad's hard earned money?
No need to watch this shit now
by turketron
Apr 1st, 2009
08:03:38 AM
The previews looked dumb (wtf at that stupid sound effect they use when someone bounces off The Blob) and I really hope the person above wasn't serious about Deadpool getting Cyclops powers at the end. I don't even know if I need to download this crap anymore.
The real "April Fool's Joke"...
by AgentArchangel
Apr 1st, 2009
08:03:52 AM
...would be to let Yoko run the site for the day. Crayon and paste style homepage, anyone?
piracy - assumed vs actual loss
by mrbong
Apr 1st, 2009
08:06:38 AM
ok, let's try to move this away from the abusive line. giving any monetary figure to "losses" from piracy is borderline nonsensical as one cannot quantify the figure. if someone downloads or buys a pirate "Wolverine", there is no way that you can prove that individual would in fact have instead given the money over for the original. who hasn't been offered or given a stack of films on DVD-R's that they usually would have no interest in? now, the guys that make / sell the pirates, different debate, as they are trading off someone else's work and efforts. downloading a film or buying a pirate IS NOT the same as stealing a car or shoplifting a disc. from my side i am against pirated films, but i grow tired of the "consumers" of them being lambasted and attacked; the actual problem is those who "release" and sell them.
Yes, Deadpool did have cyclops powers.
by cossack_says_die
Apr 1st, 2009
08:09:25 AM
Just terrible. He also had terminator vision at the same time. What the fuck. FOX needs to take a step back and think for one fucking second. If they don't I'm going to kick their fucking ass. Then Im going to be fucking done with them, professionally.
April Stool!
by Stuntcock Mike
Apr 1st, 2009
08:11:07 AM
Fuck the law.
I still attend the theater regularly but..........
by Stuntcock Mike
Apr 1st, 2009
08:14:43 AM
I'm a slut for the torrents.
Great, now EVERYBODY knows about the leaked movie.
by Martorelli
Apr 1st, 2009
08:16:45 AM
Way to go to "stop piracy".
I prefered the ending of the Halloween workprint
by Stuntcock Mike
Apr 1st, 2009
08:22:32 AM
But we wouldn't have a sequel then, would we?
DO NOT WATCH THE MOVIE!
by photopunisher
Apr 1st, 2009
08:22:45 AM
nogh said
Because the only way you're seeing it right now is through illeg
by FookU
Apr 1st, 2009
08:27:07 AM
Unless your name is Harry Knowles right?
Even if I was technically capable of downloading this
by Darth Busey
Apr 1st, 2009
08:27:13 AM
I wouldn't, since everything I've read about this movie from the start has sounded bad. Hopefully, the more this bombs, the greater the chance of X-Men rights reverting back to Marvel.
illegal channels, and we're not going to condone that.
by FookU
Apr 1st, 2009
08:27:44 AM
nm
I wasn't aware that WOLVERINE was on BitTorrent until now
by Curious Jorge
Apr 1st, 2009
08:27:47 AM
Thx for the tip!
Newbie Here
by Rebel_Lantern
Apr 1st, 2009
08:28:00 AM
What are some sites to grab the workprints from?
I am a Pirate and I have a Pigeon named Pervis McGillicutty
by hatespeech
Apr 1st, 2009
08:32:02 AM
""I don't want to encourage piracy at a time when the studios are laying off employees in droves."" - soooo.. if studios were not laying off employees in droves you WOULD ENCOURAGE PIRACY?!! Nice..
Just saw Avatar!!!
by Blancoshadow
Apr 1st, 2009
08:42:53 AM
Man it blew Jar Jar Binks' mother...Can't wait for it to be another Serenity, by the way was that ever released at the box office???
My theory: Fox did this intentionally
by Samuel Fulmer
Apr 1st, 2009
08:42:56 AM
Let's face it, it had to be someone on the inside, why not the people in charge. My guess is that this leak will put a very minor dent in the overall box office take, and the film was already doomed to be a failure (massive last minute re-shoots anyone??? When is that ever a good sign). Now the Fox big wigs can claim that it was piracy that made the film a failure, not the fact that the film is more than likely a piece of crap. This is coming from someone that wouldn't watch this film if they were handed a prisitine copy signed by Hugh Jackman's pectoral muscles. So get ready folks, the film will underwelm at the box office, the internet will be blamed, and the idiot suits won't realize that if the film was good, people would actually go see it. Get ready for more "you should feel guilty" even if you don't watch pirated movies commercials before your next $20 dollar a ticket visit to the local cinema chain.
Vote with your feet!
by Kid Z
Apr 1st, 2009
08:44:01 AM
If the area in which you live is economically depressed and all the jobs suck ass, move to another area where the outlook is better! I agree that the corporate greedheads have screwed us all over with their funny paper games and outsourcing friggin' every industry and believe it will soon lead to Americans emigrating en masse to other countries that actually have jobs.
THIS ONE'S FOR YOU WATCHMEN!!!
by VALENTINEproductions
Apr 1st, 2009
08:44:34 AM
FUCK FOX. SEE HOW SHIT ALWAYS COMES BACK AROUND. I REALLY WANTED TO LIKE THIS MOVIE AND WAS WILING TO PAY TO SEE IT, BUT THANK THAT DUDE JESUS CHRIST I DIDNT. WHAT SHIT THIS MOVIE BE.
I agree mrbong
by BendersShinyAss
Apr 1st, 2009
08:45:31 AM
Piracy is not a problem per say - we all watch shit for free. thru friends, tv, etc. the problem is these fuckers who take a pirated film and sell it. some make a pretty decent trade. There is a couple west of me who were able to build an extension onto their house thru their pirating business.

those types need to go to prison - thru their sheer arogance alone.

Asinine Post
by Yeah I Wrote That
Apr 1st, 2009
08:46:18 AM
Piracy is a fact of life. It is unstoppable. The film industry, like the music and software industries before it, need to accept it, perhaps even embrace it. And I do seriously wonder, if Fox had managed to keep Watchmen from the light of day, if this post would exist.
"Tell that to my friends who have lost their jobs"
by Feral Colon
Apr 1st, 2009
08:46:35 AM
Don't you just hate it when people make an argument personal. "ummm, my cousin was killed because of stem-cell research, so..." Now I can't rebut Beak's stance on piracy because that would make me a heartless bastard.
Alternate Reality: Ishtar leaking back in 1987
by Samuel Fulmer
Apr 1st, 2009
08:48:58 AM
So it's 1987 in an alternate reality where computer technology is advanced enough to where Ishtar leaks onto the internet. I guess it doesn't go on to become the massive box office success that it was right???
IRONY! Any geek worth his wait in geek will wait!
by spooky2k
Apr 1st, 2009
08:49:25 AM
The version that leaked has so many people riled up, but if you use google to search for screenshots you can see that it is NOT the final release. The SFX are looking like 1920s film homages (drawn onto print) and the score isn't the real one. Any geek worth his weight in geek will wait.
Piracy
by BlueHawaiiSurfer
Apr 1st, 2009
08:49:34 AM
I really don't believe piracy has cost anyone their job. The FANBOIS will go out and see it, buy the DVD, either way. I would hope the studio would try paying the actors, say 10 million instead of the 20 million per picture instead of letting Hank the boom operator go. I could be wrong but I don't see a shortage of people lining up to help make these movies. I think there is another problem because it isn't the stream of cash coming into the studios. If the studio is holding out paying "the common man" when they are making so much and paying actors such inflated rates then I say blame them. Not some kid who buys every XMan comic, every DVD, every lunch pail, and sees the movie 2x with his buddies. PIRACY??? Try greed.
*wait=weight. god i'm tired.
by spooky2k
Apr 1st, 2009
08:50:00 AM
Friends who lost their jobs- Try blaming the
by Samuel Fulmer
Apr 1st, 2009
08:50:32 AM
WGA!!!!!
it's not an april fools joke...
by Cap'n Jack
Apr 1st, 2009
08:52:34 AM
I found it. Downloading now. on another note, remember when AICN wasn't a bunch of studio whores. Listen to how they phrase how they're going to 'handle' all the talkbackers. Should they be banned, should they be blocked. What a bunch of corporate whores...
Oh yeah
by BlueHawaiiSurfer
Apr 1st, 2009
08:54:42 AM
Make a Wolverine movie 1/10th as good as the Dark Knight and just watch people pay for tickets instead of churning out crap like the first 3 x-men movies. People don't pay for movies like that at all... :o|
I normally don't understand why people download cams
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Apr 1st, 2009
08:55:19 AM
Or workprints. I'm a movie perfectionist so even mediocre movies deserve a proper viewing with great sound and picture, even if I end up turning it off after 15 minutes because the film is unwatchable.

In this case though, I condone every man, woman and child downloading Wolverine. Twice.

Fox needs to join the Big Three automakers on the chopping block. Like Ford and GM, Fox has spent years pumping out garbage products and acts like an indignant douche when nobody shows up to watch their shit.

This studio gave us Max Payne, The Day The Earth Stood Still and Babylon A.D. within a four month window. Three of the worst movies ever made in the same season.

And early reviews would at least BE reviews, something this site seems to have forgotten about.

You'd think security would be tighter than a choirboy's asshole
by JuanSanchez
Apr 1st, 2009
08:55:47 AM
Seriously - how does this happen?
This is probably one of the most interesting debates I've seen o
by silentbobafett2
Apr 1st, 2009
08:58:07 AM
Mr Beaks and the AICN crew - ever owned/brought/listened to a BOOTLEG? I remember how cool it was to have them. Thats just piracy but with a cooler name. Ever tape a film of TV and keep it? Ever borrow a film of someone and watch it? Ever receive a screener through the post and see it without buying it after? Ever go to see a sneak preview? Ever been shown a workprint?
Harry's VHS Tapes
by Tigermyth36
Apr 1st, 2009
09:03:07 AM
I wonder how many movies Harry taped off of the tv growing up. I am sure now that he and his site are so responsible, he went back and paid all the studios for his copyright violations. Oh and I am sure he disposed of all of the offending VHS tapes.
The film corporations are exactly like...
by Sonny_Williams
Apr 1st, 2009
09:04:16 AM
every other corporation on earth. Every one is now run on the basis of "How do we maximize profits THIS year?" There is no forward vision, there is no concern for making products or providing services that people will flock to. It's just about expending the least effort and money possible to make the most profit possible. Long-term vision is apparently obsolete. On the other hand, killing the goose that lays the golden eggs has never been more popular.
When Hugh Jackman sends you e-mails
by Samuel Fulmer
Apr 1st, 2009
09:06:06 AM
You don't want people watching bootleg copies of his films.
redfist, that was Amazon women on the moon
by MontyPigeon
Apr 1st, 2009
09:06:37 AM
Great film with great sketches.
Downloading!
by Conanreturns
Apr 1st, 2009
09:06:47 AM
I am as Axl Rose once described, I'm a "dowloading motherfucker"! The reason for this, is simple. I am sick and tired of getting ripped off buying shit, constantly, with albums and movies that are utter shite, but I have little to no way of knowing for sure, unless I GET the film or album off the net, first. I downloaded the Chinese Democracy leaks. I loved them. Then I went and bought the CD of Chinese Democracy the very first day it was released. I loved it too. I have been to thousands of films and paid for every single one of them. I have also reached the point where I am entirely fed up of paying to see bad films, that I hold hope for. Bad films I want to see, cause I take perverse delight in obviously bad filmmaking, will continue to attract my business. So the "suits", and I include the operators of this site in that, can blow me, if they don't like this. I'm downloading as I type this and "trying before I buy" from now on. For all movies and albums. My bandwidth is enormous and costs the same per month as an album and couple of paid for movies... There is not one goddamned thing you pricks can do about it, except make decent movies. Your choice. Cheers.
Can we talk about something more serious?
by Blancoshadow
Apr 1st, 2009
09:07:48 AM
Who will win Battle For The Cowl? Geeks unite...
Didn't know this was out there until now.
by fanboy71
Apr 1st, 2009
09:10:25 AM
Thanks AICN, now I don't have to take my 12 year old to this turd, buy tickets for something else, and sneak in. Well, maybe I will anyway to compare the finished film to the workprint. I bet Hugh Jackman is one pissed off Aussie today.
Slumdog Millionaire= The It miniseries
by Samuel Fulmer
Apr 1st, 2009
09:12:30 AM
The material with the characters as kids was compelling, the parts of the film where they were adults were terrible. The adults in that film seemed better suited for a bad daytime soap, not an "award" winning film.
Isn't this the site that told us to boycott FOX before? Hmmm
by silentbobafett2
Apr 1st, 2009
09:13:37 AM
And didn't they suggest a boycott of MIRAMAX? MR BEAKS - you moral master - how would those boycotts have helped your friends?
Ok, so I'm retarded when It comes to this stuff...
by MY_BLUE_PENIS
Apr 1st, 2009
09:15:39 AM
I can't find it! Where is it?
Terminator Salvation will not leak
by Samuel Fulmer
Apr 1st, 2009
09:19:08 AM
Because if it were to, Chritian Bale will come to your house and trash your lights.
I'm with Samuel Fulmer
by Blancoshadow
Apr 1st, 2009
09:19:34 AM
Guy goes out of his way to email this site so what do fanboys do...stab him right in the back. Nice, I'm still putting my money down. Anyone read that McG has already changed the ending to T4:The Dark Knight cause of the leaks?
BluePenis
by BlueHawaiiSurfer
Apr 1st, 2009
09:31:12 AM
Hey go to www.iwanttodownloadilleagalshi tandgoeztojailooohhhnoezz.jimm y Seriously did you just ask that here of all places??? lol :oP
Blancoshadow: It's not about Wolverine
by silentbobafett2
Apr 1st, 2009
09:31:21 AM
It's the two-faces-ness of Beaks. The way he "had a go" at us before we even knew it was available, let alone downloading it (which I'm NOT going to), was disgusting. Plus this has turned into a debate over how much piracy damages the industry like Beaks and his coporate pals tell us it does. Alot of us, including me, believe the impact is very minimal. Taken, Dark Knight, Gran Torino to name only three were all out at time of release, if not ages before, but it didn't hurt their box office. People get all high and mighty about piracy but it's a fear of technology. Taping off of TV, bootlegs, borrowing films from friends - it's all the same thing you just didn't use a computer for it.
Boycott FOX!
by T 1000 xp professional
Apr 1st, 2009
09:31:29 AM
judging by how this movie looks boycotting it will be pretty easy.. doubt it'll even be worth a download. sad. condolences to Jackman, bigger and better roles will head his way.
DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD is right....
by warghost
Apr 1st, 2009
09:31:40 AM
Please spare us the usual economic suffrage BS, because it's common knowledge that when things are bad in the US, movies usually experience higher turnouts and more profits. I have downloaded movies before and see no harm in it. If the movie sucks, I saved myself some hard earned cash, if it's good then it's worth a movie ticket. Who defends us when a movie is garbage? I think movies should be set up like most games, give us a demo to sample the movie. We all know that trailers are rarely enough to tell us if a movie is shit.
Does anyone see a problem with dloading it AND going to see it o
by Beniffer
Apr 1st, 2009
09:36:49 AM
Why don't the studios simu-release a title online and in theatre at the same time and see what makes better revenue? Just a thought ...
WTF, im only 5 min in and this is the corniest shit i've ever se
by Mike_D
Apr 1st, 2009
09:37:41 AM
thanks fox
Nevermind the fact..
by Swoomustdie
Apr 1st, 2009
09:38:32 AM
That you have posted reviews of movies that have come from these very same piracy sites you damn right now. That, or it's just amazing coincidence. Multiple times. Fact is, if the movie is good I'll still go to the theatre to experience it. Not to mention I've found many movies like Gabriel out of Australia I never would have heard about - or watched - without them. If Hollywood wants to bitch about firing people, blame the fact they are regurgitating the same sloppy shit over and over and looking dumbfounded when noone wants to Pony up. If the movies good, the crowd will be there always.
I really see no problem
by MY_BLUE_PENIS
Apr 1st, 2009
09:38:40 AM
In downloading films...especially FOX films.
The WGA strike probably did more economic
by Samuel Fulmer
Apr 1st, 2009
09:39:15 AM
damage than any North American piracy ever will. Chinese piracy is another story, considering how they treat copyright law in that country (and how many more people live in said country).
Piracy is justified until the studios offer money-back refunds
by SpyGuy
Apr 1st, 2009
09:39:58 AM
As someone pointed out earier, you can't get a refund for a bad movie as easily as you can get no charge for a bad meal at a restaurant. Why do you think people read movie reviews? To help decide if a movie is worth their money. Something tells me the movies will get a hell of a lot better if the studios had to back it up with a money-back guarantee.
Still have no desire to see this even with workprint!
by HollywoodHellraiser
Apr 1st, 2009
09:40:06 AM
Didn't know one was out there and still care less!
I JUST SEARCHED FOR WOLVERINE
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 1st, 2009
09:41:39 AM
and "busty teen gets spanked hardcore on sofa" came back as a result. Needless to say that's the vid I'm downloading now.
I just what Beaks actually wrote.
by cossack_says_die
Apr 1st, 2009
09:43:27 AM
I don't know how to feel right now. I'm stricken that Beaks, if it was easy to do, banned anyone who posted a reaction to the pirated copy. The only thing that stopped him was that it would have been a "moderating nightmare." Wow. I just don't know what to say other then the obligatory go fuck yourself. Other then that I am speechless.
Plus, you want paranoia.
by Swoomustdie
Apr 1st, 2009
09:44:15 AM
This movie sucks. Fox leaks a print, and now they can blame the shitty box office on piracy and not putting out a sub-par wannabee origin story of Wolverine and His Amazing Friends vs Mutano, the Mutant Supreme! Bam, conspiracy theory for the day done.
ChaimBenSexyback
by MY_BLUE_PENIS
Apr 1st, 2009
09:44:45 AM
I got something like that too....man, porn really is EVERYWHERE these days...
one guy from andromeda
by BendersShinyAss
Apr 1st, 2009
09:45:10 AM
build a bridge, put up a toll and then call someone who gives a shit
Re:silentbobafett2
by Blancoshadow
Apr 1st, 2009
09:47:47 AM
I'm with yah, I understand the point, I feel bad for Jackman, Iwant the guy to succeed, I wanted this to be a good movie and now this is all just a big fucking mess.
Yeah, the Gay ass "Bone claw" movie is real
by wcme
Apr 1st, 2009
09:53:41 AM
I did locate a print on ZSHARE. Lots of the links are already taken down at Rapidshare and Megaupload. But, saddly, this isnt a joke. It really did leak. Now I have to sit through the damn thing, gay ass "bone claws" and all. What a way to spend April 1st!
I somehow believe this is all orchestrated
by T 1000 xp professional
Apr 1st, 2009
09:54:37 AM
this post is designed for us to demolish fox and download the bootleg.. He basically just notified us of the existence of a bootleg copy by "declaring" he is against such a thing.... Genius....down with fox!
I GIVE BUSTY TEEN 5 OUT OF 5 SPANKS
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 1st, 2009
09:55:28 AM
At least someone knows how to make a great movie!! Fuck you Fox~!!!!
Beaks and his nazi approach
by BendersShinyAss
Apr 1st, 2009
09:56:13 AM
I would like to see your black box response to people questioning your flirtation with the idea of banning anyone who talks about a movie.

Seriously man, how far is fox's cock up your date? are you paralized with your head pointed to the sky - the cock tip visible poking out your mouth with you saying in a muffled voice "take it out just a little please"

what gives man? is that really the direction you want this site going? banning people for talking about upcoming films?

whats even more damning is that you must have seen the download yourself and then noted how shit it was. only to come running to Harry

"Harry, the film is shit, the jig is up - no longer can we give ratner hell - what do we do - the word will spread this film is bad. we must quickly post a headline about this film so we can sort of take responcibility and then, hey - we can ban all those fuckers we always wanted to. lets just say "don't talk about the film or we'll ban you"

to which harry replies "Wolverine?"

I agree w/ Hawaiian Organ Donor....
by We_Are_Trapper_Keeper
Apr 1st, 2009
09:57:30 AM
Fox deserves it. For crap movies and what they did to Deadpool (or Cyclopool or Termipool or whatever the hell they turned him into). So, pirate away me hearties yo ho!!
Since when have these guys actually commented
by T 1000 xp professional
Apr 1st, 2009
09:58:04 AM
on pirated movies. It doesn't make sense especially on a movie they've been so ready to bash (justifiably sp) as the fox helmed, stinking from a mile away movie known as Wolverine.
Theres also...
by Dmann
Apr 1st, 2009
09:58:11 AM
Wanting to see the difference between the work in progress print and the real movie. If I end up liking the finished print, I may actually grab the workprint, afterwards, and see the differences. I aint' ashamed to say I did that with HALLOWEEN redux, and frankly, the work print was better, although I liked both.
You mean now I can see Wolverine...
by dukrous
Apr 1st, 2009
09:58:51 AM
AND contribute to the downfall of Fox's shitty X-Men franchise? SWEET...off to find that torrent!
Danny and the fall of AICN
by meta4
Apr 1st, 2009
10:00:13 AM
Normally I could give 2 flying fucks about DannyBonaDuces_DickSauce or his lame ass opinion's but today sir....you've won the round. Your still a piece of shit though, in other AintItCorporateNews........... .....
Vic Tayback mentioned...
by EriamJH
Apr 1st, 2009
10:04:51 AM
Is worth ANY geekdom must read article! He was in Star Trek Original Series as a gangster, after all!!! VIC FUCKIN' TAYBACK!!!!
Let me create a talkback for a titled BOOTLEG WOLVERINE
by T 1000 xp professional
Apr 1st, 2009
10:07:21 AM
DO NOT enter if you don't want to hear negative things about this movie. DO NOT come in if you do not want to know the truth. DO NOT read if you DO want to waste your money.... I love AICN ;)
anti-piracy propaganda vs. marijuana prohibition propaganda
by OBSD
Apr 1st, 2009
10:08:12 AM
I liken the anti-piracy company line "but, but the common man working in the movie industry will lose his job if you pirate a movie!" to the crazy "if you smoke a joint, you're supporting the terrorists" bullshit they tried to sell us 6 or 7 years ago. They're both 1.) not provable and 2.)not true. Instead of thinking of piracy as a competing buisness model (which it is), the studios try to threaten people with lawsuits or play on their sympathies. "We know that 90% precent of our products are crap, and we know that the places to view our product are unpleasent, but please go to a shitty expensive movie theater with overpriced snacks where we refuse to hire ushers or excercise any control over the obnoxious theater-goers who might make this an unpleasent experience for you so we can afford to pay Joe The Gaffer. Because everytime you pirate a movie, you're stealing a dollar from Joe the Gaffer's paycheck so he can't afford to feed his 9 kids." Sounds like bullshit, doesn't it?
Saw the workprint. Biggest surprise was....
by EastBayFrankenstein
Apr 1st, 2009
10:09:02 AM
...the AMAZING CGI work done in creating a virtual performance by Vic Tayback playing Wolverine's gruff-but-lovable uncle, BadgerMan. Gotta admit, I DID NOT see that comin'!
Question about JJ Abrams' Star Trek
by Blancoshadow
Apr 1st, 2009
10:10:53 AM
When does Spock eats Kirk's brains? And do they save the Cheerleader?
Here's the real reason the theater industry is dying.
by TheMark
Apr 1st, 2009
10:11:58 AM
No quality control (read: shitty kids who talk and text through movies; if you hired ushers--FUCKING USE THEM) and the fact that going to see a movie costs well over 10 dollars for JUST a ticket. I went to a movie about two months ago and for me to take myself and enjoy a drink and a popcorn cost 27 dollars! 27 fucking dollars!!! I live in freakin' Cincinnati, OH. This isn't New York and there's no reason it should cost me that much to go enjoy a movie. That's why the DVD business does well, I can buy a DVD for 15, and get a box of popcorn and a case of soda for LESS than 27 dollars...and I don't have to put up with some disrespectful wanna be gangstas mixed in with those Guitar Hero Hero kids. JUST BECAUSE YOU PLAY GUITAR HERO DOESNT MEAN YOURE A MUSICIAN EITHER!

Glad to get that all off my chest! Whoo!
talkback titled*
by T 1000 xp professional
Apr 1st, 2009
10:12:03 AM
I'd still like harry to reply about...
by lex romero
Apr 1st, 2009
10:12:56 AM
...why his review of Attack of the Clones was ok to do, but for any of us to download the wolvy workprint is 'wrong'.

I've skimmed through the film, feels pretty meh tbh. I don't think an extra 15 minutes of deadpool would really solve that.
Suprising Cameo
by superheroshows
Apr 1st, 2009
10:13:00 AM
http://tinyurl.com/d2c6hf
1 word review of it:
by palewook
Apr 1st, 2009
10:16:52 AM
Lame.
fox brought this on itself with the watchmen suit
by palewook
Apr 1st, 2009
10:17:46 AM
not shocking some angry geek hit fox back
Thanks Beaks...
by GaiustheBrave
Apr 1st, 2009
10:22:07 AM
I didn't know there was a leaked copy to find! ;) Um, but, yeah, it's bad, just horrible...just horrible.
oh god
by BendersShinyAss
Apr 1st, 2009
10:22:33 AM
it's terrible.
Way to save the movie theater industry
by Samuel Fulmer
Apr 1st, 2009
10:23:33 AM
Bring back vertical integration. That way the studios own the big first run theaters, and maybe the ticket prices/vending prices would come down.
Did they really catch the source of the leak?
by YackBacker
Apr 1st, 2009
10:26:10 AM
My god, that guy is gonna be in a world of pain. Amazing.
"Because the only way you're seeing it right now is through ille
by epitone
Apr 1st, 2009
10:29:46 AM
Ahem. If someone attends a super-secret advance screening, signs a non-disclosure agreement, and then emails you a review, THAT'S ALSO ILLEGAL. For crying out loud, this site never would have gotten off the ground in the first place if it hadn't been for all manner of illegal activities. Isn't AICN already banned from anything relating to Fox? How much more trouble can you guys get in at this point?
ok but enjoy being "AINT IT OLD NEWS"
by FleshMachine
Apr 1st, 2009
10:31:26 AM
really stupid philosophy.
BONER CLAWS: THE MOVIE
by turketron
Apr 1st, 2009
10:36:27 AM
Would be awesome.
I would not have known...
by MrGreenStache
Apr 1st, 2009
10:36:34 AM
... if it wasn't for this story. Way to go.
BONER CLAUS: THE MOVIE
by turketron
Apr 1st, 2009
10:37:32 AM
Potentially awesomer.
Ban Me !
by TheCap
Apr 1st, 2009
10:42:47 AM
The movie will sukz0rs. And as to AICN, "as a rule does not do April Fool's Stories" ... what about that anal eruption of a column that fatass's wife writes about crap music ? If that's not a joke, then there is no Dog.
WOLVERINE MOVIE LOOKS DUMB ANYWAY...
by AwkwardAvenue
Apr 1st, 2009
10:48:30 AM
This movie looks horrible. Wouldnt see it either way.
Vic Tayback Was Not Perfect
by kevinwillis.net
Apr 1st, 2009
10:51:13 AM
I know you people think he was. But he was a man! He had flaws like anybody else. Don't put him on a pedestal!
Calling Out
by breathwillowmist
Apr 1st, 2009
10:58:54 AM
Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that Beaks hasnt said a word since he knows the majority of people are gonna bitch him out for his banning free speech comments. Harry aint saying shit either since he knows hes a fucking hypocrite right now. This site is a bunch of bullshit and both of these men can go fuck themselves.
VIC TAYBACK IS A BITCH
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 1st, 2009
11:03:22 AM
You were all thinking it, I had the guts to say it.
redfist
by FleshMachine
Apr 1st, 2009
11:04:19 AM
yellowbeard!
oh yeah it was amzon women not yellowbeard
by FleshMachine
Apr 1st, 2009
11:08:15 AM
yellobeard was funny tho
I learned in the morning about the leak
by ominus
Apr 1st, 2009
11:13:41 AM
and was thinking about aicn how will handle it.ofcourse it did the right thing.
What if you WANT the film to fail???
by IndustryKiller!
Apr 1st, 2009
11:15:34 AM
Why is it automatically the "honorable" thing not watching it online? I certainly wasn't going to pay for this turkey in the theater. I'm flat out fucking sick of studios bastardizing comic books (Thats Joe Quesadas job) and this is one of the biggest offenders of all time. It's a fair question Beaks, what if a film DESERVES to fail?
one_guy_from_andromeda
by breathwillowmist
Apr 1st, 2009
11:15:34 AM
there are worse things that could happen than being banned from this site. I like coming here to read news but the actual people that run this site are a bunch of jackasses.
Reverse psychology?
by OBSD
Apr 1st, 2009
11:15:45 AM
We all know how much of a mad-on AICN has for FOX, so my question is this: Could this have been an experiment in reverse-pschology from AICN? "please, please, please, whatever you do, don't send us reviews for Wolverine based on the leaked workprint that's on bittorrent and that you didn't even know about until just now because I just told you." I know then Beaks said, "blah blah blah banning people who talk about it blah blah blah some of my best frinds lost jobs because of piracy blah blah blah.." but I can't help but think that this was a calculated move to tell as many people as possible about this in order to screw with Fox while at the same time saying to Fox "But we told people NOT to watch it!" Maybe I'm seeing wheels within wheels when there's just a dumbass who, if he just shut his gob, wouldn't have accidently let thousands upon thousands of people in on the bootlegged Wolverine worprint. Thoughts?
This is obviously
by Ebolarama
Apr 1st, 2009
11:21:46 AM
An attempt by AICN to get people to spread the torrents. Do you really think AICN is that stupid, to say "don't send us reviews of the leaked Wolverine workprint!" thereby telling everyone about it?? If they wanted to keep this in the dark, they wouldn't have said anything about it, and just deleted all reviews that were sent it.
obsd
by BendersShinyAss
Apr 1st, 2009
11:22:06 AM
hahahahahaha.
haha! someone's going to jail!
by HaterofCrap
Apr 1st, 2009
11:22:35 AM
sloppy!

by Ebolarama
Apr 1st, 2009
11:23:41 AM
Nipples on Batman Flames on Optimus Nuked the Fridge Trashed your Lights Banned by Beaks
And why when...
by em_tee_em
Apr 1st, 2009
11:24:35 AM
...Beaks or Moriarty post one of these stories about how it's bad to see shit in advance or bad to post spoilers do they never actually address the fact that their entire lives are based around this very kind of shit no matter how many people call them on it? Oh yeah because most of the guys who work for this site are douchebags with Beaks easily being the biggest douche of them all.

I get so tired of reading these assholes asking for scripts and then reading said scripts and then telling us about the time they read said script, but then harping on about how we should avoid spoilers because it's apparently for our own good.

Stop being holier than thou assholes and I'll stop pointing out that Beaks is a fucking cock.

Beaks uses The Secret and this film SUCKS!
by XSE_Drake
Apr 1st, 2009
11:29:51 AM
Since Beaks is using the power of attraction and actually means AICN WANTS YOUR REVIEWS... Good fucking golly does this movie suck! The opening credits were the best part of the flick. The chick in this is awful, Gambit is awful, Dominic Monaghan is completely wasted, Blob is just a human guy who eats a lot, and Ryan Reynolds ought to fire his agent after forcing him at gunpoint to skullfuck Rothman because they fucking DESTROYED Deadpool. Easily the best as-of-yet unfilmed X-character, with serious potential, and they turn him into some hack version of Mimic? And remove his mouth? HE'S THE FUCKING MERC WITH A MOUTH!!!! And the "after the credits" endings? A fanboy could have done better. Fanboys could have made this whole damn movie better! I suddenly understand why, in that promo shot, all of the actors are looking down at the ground while Jackman looks at the camera. They are embarrassed to be in this joke of a movie. SOOOO glad I won't be paying to see this.
still watching this thing in spurges
by BendersShinyAss
Apr 1st, 2009
11:40:08 AM
it just doesn't make any sense. they've taken the back story of the 3 films and convoluted it all into something that is just a massive big mess.
i am sorry,did i undestand correctly?
by ominus
Apr 1st, 2009
11:41:14 AM
DEADPOOL doesnt have a mouth in the movie? is this true?
what the fuck, removed deadpool's mouth? WWHHAA AH AHAAHAHAH
by turketron
Apr 1st, 2009
11:44:07 AM
I say, in the immortal words of Stone Cold Steve Austin, "WHAT!?"
Who the hell calls himself a geek and watch it online?
by Koji_Kabuto
Apr 1st, 2009
11:45:26 AM
This is bad news for everyone in the industry me included. Bad economy and now this. Don't get me wrong, if it sucks when I see it then fine, it still will suck, but to leak a movie a full month before it's release with no FX and no re-shoots inserted to make it better is horrible. Hope they get the fucker and hit him hard to scare others.
Today's Game: Spot the Fox Talk Backers...
by JackLucas
Apr 1st, 2009
11:47:46 AM
It's really great fun. Scroll this monstrous talkback and pick out the comments and users you think are Fox damage control lackeys posting comments such as, "Watching it on your computer versus first weekend with a crowd on a giant screen with a sound system. No comparison." & "Oh, and I know someone that watched it and they said there were obviously rough edits and very, very temp effects all over the place. Doesn't seem like a very fair way to pass judgement on it if you ask me." Get your ballots in early because there is a very good chance that with all of the backlash this early in the game, Harry may give Beaks the OK to start banning all of us and perhaps even just pull this story all together. Have fun, kids!
I KNOW WHO LEAKED IT!!!
by Sephiroid
Apr 1st, 2009
11:51:08 AM
Hugh Jackman did, so after the major bsshing and consequent fail, he can finally stop playing Wolverine... Now get Hugh to play Snake in the Metal Gear Movie!!!
Fuck Rothman!
by Judge Briggs
Apr 1st, 2009
11:51:16 AM
I want to dl this shitty movie just to stick it to Rothman's bitch ass!
What about test screenings?
by supertoyslast
Apr 1st, 2009
11:51:50 AM
It's par for the course to run reactions based on test screenings - even if the people running them ask the audience not to leak anything (which they usually do). So if there's a test screening before a press screening for Wolverine you won't run anything based on that? Does this "press screening only" rule only apply to Wolverine or to all future movies?
Oh no! No Worlverine reviews?
by ecm
Apr 1st, 2009
11:54:28 AM
Dear Jim Cameron
by kwisatzhaderach
Apr 1st, 2009
11:55:53 AM
Please leak a workprint of Avatar online ASAP. Cheers.
Oh no! No Wolverine reviews?
by ecm
Apr 1st, 2009
11:56:10 AM
I could care less. Xmen 3 sucked huge donkey dick and I have a feeling this will be no differnet. But, hell, I might be wrong. Could be cool. But it might suck. I don't care.
I Knew It Was Shit
by medicinaluser
Apr 1st, 2009
12:01:22 PM
Even before the Workprint got leaked (not downloaded it btw) but thanks to everyone out there who have seen it and warned others away from wasting money on this clusterfuck of a movie.

Fox get no sympathy from me at all and as for the lower minions working for them they will be better off unemployed with starving children than in the service of such a corrupt/evil corporation.

As for the bigwigs maybe if they had actually treated the Director better and maybe if the star of this POS with money invested in the movie had the balls to stick up for said Director a little more we might have got a half decent flick

Rothman you fuckwit hows your day going so far?
another FOX TBer for you
by Cedar_Room
Apr 1st, 2009
12:01:44 PM
"This is bad news for everyone in the industry me included. Bad economy and now this. Don't get me wrong, if it sucks when I see it then fine, it still will suck, but to leak a movie a full month before it's release with no FX and no re-shoots inserted to make it better is horrible. Hope they get the fucker and hit him hard to scare others."

so if it sucks after you see it in the cinema, after shelling out £10 or whatever - thats fine? But if you watch it for free and it sucks thats evil?

Beaks - then don't f'n WRITE about it.
by JimCurry
Apr 1st, 2009
12:04:00 PM
You don't want to comment on it, yet here's a big article with over 400 hits. Makes sense...
Palewook
by Rollofpennies
Apr 1st, 2009
12:04:09 PM
You said it. People told FOX if this would happen if Watchmen was interfered with. I wont see FOX's Dawsons Creek version of Wolverine anyway. Movie looks really cheap especially the trailers. After fucking up 3 times its too late to pretend they give a damn about this franchise.
the leak was the best thing that could happen..
by maceodkat
Apr 1st, 2009
12:04:20 PM
for wolverine. i didnt want to see this, after the bad reports form the sets, and the fox logo that comes up before the film, but having seen it (wait, no i didnt), i cant wait to see it in theathers, and possibly on imax. it was bad ass, and hands down the best x-men movie i've seen(erm, no i didnt). shame about deadpool and all that, but otherwise, wow. i think the problem with the showbiz industry is content, and not pirates. do you know who is downloading these films and NOT going to the movies? people who are broke as a joke and couldnt afford to see it anyway. i dropped nearly $70 on the 3d version of Monsters vs Aliens on the IMAX experience, got a decent TS copy of it(erm, no i didnt) and cant wait to own it on blu-ray, right along side my other movies. when paul blart makes crazy figures fatter than kevin james waistline, and the box office overall is UP this year, then i just dont buy this crap about the "woe is me" take on the industry. its more like inflated paychecks that need to be scaled back. how about hollywood hire less PA's to grab latte's, and just sip on a regular cup o joe they get themselves. also, i dont see the difference between this leaked workprint, and the early screeners that you clowns illegally post up here in the first place. "you are the first people to see this" / "some of the effects aren't finished yet" / "n.d.a. blah blah blah / the people who downloaded this paid the EXACT same amount that those people did to enter the screening. and its a shame you guys arent at least talking about what they did right on this film after all the naysayers and gloom and doomers. honestly this isnt gonna hurt the b.o. the poor were never gonna make it out on may 1st, but i assure you everyone who was even on the fence on this film would go see the completed film, and just for the simple reason that it was a hell of a lot more than just a couple of unfinished effects. (or was it? i'm not sure i didnt download it, that would be wrong)
We Don't Want Your... = INSTANT MASSIVE TALKBACK! lol
by G100
Apr 1st, 2009
12:09:05 PM
Nicely done guys why didn't you just write, EVERYONE POST HERE!!!!

I'm trying hard to feel sorry for FOX, no wait, no I'm not. Laughing my ass off that's what I'm doing. Laughing VERY hard indeed.

BUT WHAT WOULD BALE SHOUT!!!
by G100
Apr 1st, 2009
12:11:18 PM
Leaked the Movie ? LEAKED THE MOTHERFUCKING MOVIE ?!!!!?? FUCKIN AMATEURS !!!! You're all like Dah,dah,dah,dah!
MaceodKat
by medicinaluser
Apr 1st, 2009
12:12:36 PM
You work for Fox right?

Its fucking BRILLIANT, what are you people on?
by Mysterious_Volvo
Apr 1st, 2009
12:14:02 PM
of course by brilliant, i mean much better than the others in the x-men franchise. definitely worth watching. probably go to see it in the cinema too.
This movie will fail, Turkish Wolverine will rock
by Samuel Fulmer
Apr 1st, 2009
12:17:16 PM
who gives
by lostboytexass
Apr 1st, 2009
12:17:36 PM
a shit. fuck the police! your in the jungle now baby!
Ugh
by Arteska
Apr 1st, 2009
12:19:51 PM
At least some of us can remember what it was like to actually anticipate a movie, any movie and what going to movies used to be like before everyone hated it. Now people want to watch incomplete work on 3 inch screens and laptops and attempt poor Maslin impressions about everything under the sun from inception to release via social networking. It's far more insufferable than any bad movie could ever be.
Pffffffff.....
by Samplelord
Apr 1st, 2009
12:20:32 PM
Some movie experts... You can't judge a movie by the workprint? Bad acting is bad acting, out of focus shot is out of focus shot, retarded script is retarded script... Do you know how many decisions are made by watching dailies? If you can't spot something fucked up about a movie, anything, from a workprint...then that explains the good reviews for crappy flicks. I used to watch movies on old scratched up Betamax(for the youngsters,look it up..)tapes, didn't make The Thing any worse. But The Bat People was then and is still a shit movie, even in HD. No re-cutting, color correction nor re-shoots will save a stupid concept. Now I'm gonna watch the Wolverine print in nice old fucked up o' vision.... When I'm finished I'll be back to bitch sa mo....
So...we shouldn't WINK WINK..download it? WINK
by knowthyself
Apr 1st, 2009
12:20:37 PM
I WINK got ya WINK.
you know
by lostboytexass
Apr 1st, 2009
12:21:05 PM
when the movie bombs they can blame piracy thus ensuring more crap xmen movies down the line. bravo. keep that corpse alive!
fuck FOX, fuck you and the pony you rode in on...
by penhapus
Apr 1st, 2009
12:22:52 PM
In this day and age of technology and whatnot, how the hell you can wave your hands in the air shouting 'unfair' when a film leaks online? To compare the film industry to the music industry - the latest Pet Shop Boys album was locked down tight; no preview copies were sent out, any playbacks were in tightly monitored situations. I have no idea how much Wolverine cost, but I'm guessing upwards of $80 million, so letting 'work prints' float about is retarded. It's perfectly acceptable for AICN to print reviews of workprint screenings providing they come from the right people apparently, but when a workprint turns up online and the masses get their fourpenneth on whether it's a shitty flick or not, that's not OK? You were happy to roll with Harry's ep 2 review because it suited you. This doesn't suit you so it's boo-hoo 'piracy and the internet is killing the movie world' - no, rubbish films, endless remakes and generally expecting the populace to bend over and take it is what is killing movies. Every single person writing for AICN is a hypocrite if you don't pick the best bits of the most coherent reviews of the screener and put something together. The game has changed and it ain't cool to stick your heads in the sand.
"you wouldn't shoot a policeman..."
by OBSD
Apr 1st, 2009
12:23:54 PM
"Then steal his hat. Then go to the toilet in his hat. Then send his hat to his widow. Then steal his hat again. Piracy. It's a crime." This whole thread all I can think of is that parody from The IT Crowd and that guy, pants around his ankles, crapping into a dead cop's hat. That and the stupid techno music that plays during these PSAs that I have to sit through whenever I steal a movie from the internet.
But AVATAR is coming & we have to keep FOX sweet
by G100
Apr 1st, 2009
12:26:46 PM
Is what a FAR more cynical person than myself would think. But not me. No,no,no,no,no. No.
Deadpool fans must be fucking pissed as hell
by SpyGuy
Apr 1st, 2009
12:27:35 PM
"The Merc With a Mouth...with No Mouth." Way to go, Fox.
First Hulk Movie was online 2 months before release
by BigNickBG
Apr 1st, 2009
12:27:53 PM
and was likely a huge cause of the horrible box office.
First Hulk Movie
by Samuel Fulmer
Apr 1st, 2009
12:30:05 PM
And most importantly it wasn't very good.
BigNickBG
by penhapus
Apr 1st, 2009
12:30:54 PM
No, the first Hulk tanked because it wasn't very good. Unfortunately, as it was leaked, they couldn't keep a lid on it. It's opening weekend wasn't bad, but it dropped off bloody quickly on word of mouth. Because it wasn't very good, not because everyone was downloading it instead.
Piracy never hurt the HK movie industry!
by Darth_Inedible
Apr 1st, 2009
12:30:55 PM
Nope in fact HK is now producing more movies than ever thanks to piracy. And look at mainland China which has a huge level of piracy and how they're not poised to overtake Hollywood as the number one producer of filmed entertainment, unlike India with it's less pirate friendly culture which is currently struggling. Guys this is pretty clear cut! Anyway I'm heading back to my burner all my Craigslist stuff is sold out and I need a new set of rims for my escalade.
Just watched it,only the scenes
by ominus
Apr 1st, 2009
12:32:12 PM
with Deadpool in order to see how they have treated him. yes its true,he has no mouth,he has those claws in his arms,he looks a lot like BARAKA from Mortal Kombat and he has the ability to duplicate the powers from other mutants,like mimic or rogue from the xmen comics.

thank you very much FOX for fucking one of my favourite comic characters.thank you rothman.

First Hulk movie leak...
by OBSD
Apr 1st, 2009
12:33:07 PM
I think the fact that the first Hulk movie sucked a family sized bag of dicks had more to do with the horrible box office than any internet leak.
yeah deadpool has no mouth
by cool_britannia79
Apr 1st, 2009
12:33:17 PM
by the end, it absolutely fucking sucks. and he dies. decapitated dies. shooting lazers. out of his eyes. and did they kill cable? WTF is with the cameo at the end?
lacklustre
by TheExterminator
Apr 1st, 2009
12:33:55 PM
that's what the film was
Lesson Learned??? Piracy hurts bad movies
by Samuel Fulmer
Apr 1st, 2009
12:46:25 PM
Not good one.
I got an idea...X-Men Origins Deadpool
by Blancoshadow
Apr 1st, 2009
12:46:29 PM
Shia Labeouf is Deadpool and Will Smith is Cable...take that Fanboys! Shonuff Samuel L.Jackson is Longshot!!!!
What a bunch of assholes.
by TheLastCleric
Apr 1st, 2009
12:49:07 PM
Those of you justifying piracy can go choke on your dad’s hairy cock and die because seriously, there is no justification and despite what supreme fucktards like Danny Glover’s Dickhead write, studios lose plenty of revenue to piracy, especially when the quality of the film is good and can be sold for 5 bucks a pop at a swap meet or downloaded for free online. Reading some of you shit squirts talk about how you and your douchebag friends don’t have a problem with it doesn’t validate the theft but rather illuminates just what a bunch of narrow, selfish asshats all of your motherfuckers actually are. If the film is that bad, why the fuck are you yeasty twats even watching it? Answer: Because you are fucking hypocrites, losers and generally soulless little bitches who have a ridiculously overblown sense of entitlement. When shit doesn’t go your way or you can formulate some sort of pedantic, silly logic for immoral behavior, you then take whatever the fuck you want and then claim the crime is victimless.
I'll NEVER justify piracy.
by Stuntcock Mike
Apr 1st, 2009
12:50:52 PM
I just do it. You don't like it? That's tough shit.
I thnk Taken's Box Office is proof that downloading...
by maceodkat
Apr 1st, 2009
12:51:08 PM
a movie early hurts its box office. that thing drops 6 months before it screens. and regarding medicinaluser, lawlz.
Fuck that, I'll watch it
by Biffs_Pleasure_Paradise
Apr 1st, 2009
12:51:43 PM
And if it's good (which i doubt), I'll pay to watch it again on the big screen. Piracy has never prevented me from going to see a movie in theaters, a movie I'm anticipating is a movie I'm going to see the way it was meant to be seen regardless. Honestly, most of the 'geek' community thinks this is gonna suck anyway, it's Joe Public (most don't even know what a torrent is) that's gonna make this film bank.
An open letter to Summer Hollwood Blockbuster,
by OBSD
Apr 1st, 2009
12:51:44 PM
You've given me much joy over the years, but you've also given me an insane amount of bad quality product that I cannot get a refund for. So here's the deal: from now on I'm going to jump on any chance I can to see what a movie is like before it hits the theaters. So, yeah, I'll skim through this after work and THEN I'll decide if the movie is worth my ten bucks. And if it is worth my 10 bucks, then it'll be worth $25.00 for the blu-ray. But before I dish out the cash for your product in it's various forms, I need proof that your product has the goods. This is a pattern that you can expect to continue if you insist on expecting me to continue to pay sight unseen for an inferior product.
Crazy kids and their kooky magic 8 balls interwebs
by Darth Macchio
Apr 1st, 2009
12:54:30 PM
You crazy kids and your magical intertransitsuppositorytubes with your cryspace and facetwitter. You must all be genie-us's to use that crazy technomagical stuff! I plugged in my vcr and that shit started blinking at me and i just had to give my brain a rest! gosh! i don't see how you kids do it! And downloading movies sounds like something The Riddler did to Val Kilmer a few years back. Almost fucked up batman for good and yet here are you kids insisting on technological implants and looking into brain replacement computers that will run on crappy energizer batteries!

And I have always wanted to kill the energizer bunny. Seriously. I've been in a few fist fights here and there, but as far as humans go, I've never actually killed one of them or wanted to. Kick someone's ass? Sure but not kill them. That's serious stuff. But I'd like to kill the energizer bunny and then, not kill, but beat the fucking shit out of the guy who came up with that ad campaign. If someone buys me a gift that needs batteries and they get me energizer bunny batteries, I smash the gift over their melon fucking heads immediately. I've been known to burn their houses down too. Die, energizer bunny. Die 1000 times every night in my dreams. I kill you a thousand times in my dreams, energizer bunny. Every night. 1000 times.

Well box office was up last year.
by hallmitchell
Apr 1st, 2009
12:57:33 PM
So if you make movies like the Dark Knight and Iron Man. People will show up. Downloading is here. It's here to stay. Movies should be available legally to download on the films release. I will still go to the cinema if this happens.
This couldn't have happened to a more deserving studio
by Harry Weinstein
Apr 1st, 2009
12:57:41 PM
Well, I suppose it could have happened to the Weinstein Company, actually.
This is what Fox gets for being a baggadouche
by Sixtyhurts
Apr 1st, 2009
01:00:47 PM
and for fucking around with Watchmen.

I can't wait to watch the 1/2-assed bootleg of this 1/2-assed movie. Deadpool with NO MOUTH??!?!?? That is truly laughable.

I got an idea--lets make the next Wolverine without his claws. And he's a girl. A black girl. Yeah--that's a great idea.

Fuckin' Fox.

Regarding Taken
by penhapus
Apr 1st, 2009
01:02:58 PM
this is a rare occurence of a film doing the rounds in Europe first and then making it over the Atlantic. Normally, we get pissed about with release dates - The Mist took nearly a year after the US release to arrive in the UK.
Hugh Jackman as DIRTY HARRY!!
by wtriker1701
Apr 1st, 2009
01:04:38 PM
Hey - it's Remake-Time these years. If WOLVERINE doens't get its job done at the box offices, let's get Hugh for a Prequel/Sequel/Redo-Series of HARRY CALAHAN! He's the perfect Reincarnation of Good Ol' Clint!
You KNOW it's true!
There is no gray area.
by directorsaab
Apr 1st, 2009
01:06:27 PM
Leaking stuff like this, and then downloading it, is wrong, wrong, wrong. And if you don't think it is, ask yourself how you would feel if a project you worked on for months (sometimes years) was given away for free and without your consent. If this continues it will kill the industry. Personally, going to avoid this film like the plague. It's 20th Century Fox so it will most likely be an overproduced bland mess.
What a GREAT day!!
by Rebel_Lantern
Apr 1st, 2009
01:08:59 PM
I have so enjoyed reading all the post/opinions from the good, the bad and the potty mouthed. I can't wait to get home and see it for myself if it's a steaming pile. This has truly been a Great Fucking DAY!!! Post on, Please!!
The editor of this article was clever....
by sho_me_da_money
Apr 1st, 2009
01:09:07 PM
In that he plays both sides of the field.
Nobody has seen the film
by syn_flood
Apr 1st, 2009
01:17:20 PM
The workprint is not the finished film so your opinions are useless. I will be waiting to see the actual film.
Is piracy wrong?
by sho_me_da_money
Apr 1st, 2009
01:20:09 PM
If the industry was getting paid proportionate amounts to say an IT Analyst like me or a mother with multiple jobs or a dude slaving 37.5 hours per week at McDonalds, then I wouldn't be making a big hoo ha about it. I don't expect them to make an equal amount BUT i don't expect them to make a ridiculous amount also. Although Piracy is wrong, I'm actually happy that it goes on for the lower class earners like me. At the end of the day, Fox and Hugh Jackman and the rest will be getting a fat greasy wage regardless of the leak. They should be proud and content with the material they produced and the wages they get paid.
Toby_FN_Wong
by Argentino
Apr 1st, 2009
01:27:52 PM
I'm not so shure. Jackman seems like a nice guy and all, buy he's the star and also a producer in this, so he probably had some creative control.
TheLastCleric
by Ace of Wands
Apr 1st, 2009
01:31:14 PM
how much does piracy really hurt the film industry?. Does it hurt it more than the industry itself repeatedly making the same stories until they have leeched whatever- sometimes little- lifeblood the tale held in the first place, or making a film the poorer by an insistence on a shorter running time so that they can get more showings per day or believing in fucking demographics and therefore neutering films to meet the graphs on their charts?. All these actions will bring about diminishing returns and hurt the industry far more than piracy. If the film execs really wanted to deal with piracy why not simultaneous releases of all films at cinemas worldwide and simultaneous releases of DVD's with no fucking region coding? That might cut down on piracy a little but I guess it doesn't meet with the industries market plan to maximise its profit

And be honest, there is mainly two type of viewer of pirate films; those who were never going to go and see the film at the cinema anyway- they never go to the cinema- and those that will watch the pirate copy but STILL go to the cinema to see the film and STILL buy the DVD when it comes out and then STILL buy the directors cut when that comes out later. Piracy!, I think that the industry knows that little trick inside out.

People with short memories
by mastes360
Apr 1st, 2009
01:31:25 PM
All you people moaning about this being leeked should remember what that FOX producer said (Rothman or something like that), when asked in a interview how the fans will like the movie, the 'cool' FOX producer basicly said "Fuck the fans", no FOX FUCK YOU! ha ha ha ha ha.
Nobody has seen the film syn_flood
by terribleg
Apr 1st, 2009
01:36:23 PM
This movie is an epic fail. Although my opinion may not matter to you it is in fact more informed than yours at this point. But absolutely go ahead and save up for a ticket to the giant bucket of suck that opens May 1st. I will be waiting on your awesome reply. Oh, and a pox on Fox!
Who watches the Jackman?
by StatelyWayneManor
Apr 1st, 2009
01:41:15 PM
Somewhere out there, a Warner Brothers executive is laughing furiously. Hurm.
Germane
by nahdogg
Apr 1st, 2009
01:41:33 PM
I love that word thanks for using it Beaks. I think the real problem is not piracy or fat cats (every industry has executives that make big $$$. Taxes and unions are what are driving jobs out of the US...Big money goes where it makes sense and peoples republic of California is a place it doesn't make sense to do business. Until there is some kind of purge of unions (which destroy the industries they infiltrate) and an end to confiscatory taxes which gives incentive for business to look for greener pastures the flight of jobs will continue.
directorsaab
by chuffsterUK
Apr 1st, 2009
01:41:36 PM
So,saying you're not going to bother watching the film helps the film industry then??
have you noticed that the only people
by oisin5199
Apr 1st, 2009
01:43:40 PM
who have pirated the movie are snarky assholes who use terms like 'teh suck' and 'epic fail'. Which goes to show, only giant douchebags pirate movies.
Lars Ulrich just called. Said "Fuck you assholes!"
by Darth Macchio
Apr 1st, 2009
01:44:30 PM
And then he got back to having forced buttsex with Jason Newstead. While the other band mates play the ocarina and rub feces on each other.
The fact that this was pirated didn't need advertising.
by Reelheed
Apr 1st, 2009
01:47:21 PM
AICN, I respect your "hey don't send your reviews to us" stance but you could have just set a blanket junk filter using the words "my review of xmen origins" and not alerted all these geeks to go firing up their e-wires and limedonkeys. Thanks, Hollywood.
redfist - The Video Pirates
by mrbong
Apr 1st, 2009
01:47:39 PM
it was indeed the magnificent "Amazon Women On The Moon". if i recall, it was no less than Peter Boyle and Christopher Plummer as the pirates! well worth finding on DVD or, in keeping with this thread, downloading :)
I'm snortin a bunch of blow off this hooker's ass
by ebolamonkey
Apr 1st, 2009
01:53:54 PM
And I hear this Ex-Man Wolf-marine movie I'm EPing is all over the fuckin internet! Do you people have no fuckin shame? That's MY fuckin movie!
Headcount.
by chuffsterUK
Apr 1st, 2009
01:58:47 PM
Anyone who hasn't ever,EVER watched a pirated film,say so,if not,fuck off with your holier than attitude.
This is just an apology from FOX for X-Men: The Last Stand
by Darkknight37
Apr 1st, 2009
01:59:04 PM
And I graciously accept said apology, and will find out if I drop top coin for a midnight screening. Joking aside, this is sucky for them, but karma's a bitch when you wait for WB to finish a film before you try to extort money from it.
Wasn't going to pay to watch it
by tbransonlives
Apr 1st, 2009
01:59:17 PM
And I'm not going to watch it for free, it looks like shit.

I'm not one of those negative ahole talkbackers, but Fox has proven they dont give a shit about these properties or their fans beyond the profit margin.

I've seen it...it's a LION!!!!
by dihay
Apr 1st, 2009
02:03:36 PM
oisin5199
by terribleg
Apr 1st, 2009
02:09:54 PM
Oh yeah, I'm a snarky asshole for sure. Thanks for noticing, jerk. To think you could have used your spectacular powers of insight to warn Fox ahead of time so they wouldn't embarrass themselves. Instead you waste time calling me a d-bag and a pirate, but it won't change the fact that Fox has made a steaming pile of a movie that will royally offend any fan of the X-Men.
hypocrites!
by jambone
Apr 1st, 2009
02:09:54 PM
How is this different than a guy downloading the movie and watching it for free and then writing a review of it any different than a guy who goes to a free test screening, signs a waiver saying he won't post anything about it online, and then sends you a review that you post? There is no difference, only if he passes the material on. Weak Beaks.
Ace the film industry remakes shit because of piracy
by Darth_Inedible
Apr 1st, 2009
02:10:08 PM
Think about the 70s, the last great period of originality when people actually had to go into a theater and pay money to watch a new release. Now in the age of video games, cable tv, home theater and one-click piracy they have to use the biggest trawl nets possible to the stupidest, widest audience. Remakes have that audience built in. The smarter, more original and geekier your story the more likely it will be strangled by piracy, ie: BSG and it's consistently feeble 'official' ratings forcing the changes that ruined season 3. It didn't matter that every geek in the universe was watching it online because that didn't sell the ads which pay directly towards production of the next episodes.
Deadpool with NO MOUTH = Flames on Optimus
by Stuntcock Mike
Apr 1st, 2009
02:15:00 PM
really isn't germane to this discussion.
by terribleg
Apr 1st, 2009
02:17:41 PM
THE GODDAMN GERMANS GOT NOTHIN' TO DO WITH IT!
"I'M GONNA BARBEQUE YOUR ASS IN MOLASSES!"
by Stuntcock Mike
Apr 1st, 2009
02:19:24 PM
BIGGEST LEAK = REVENGE OF THE SITH
by Mullah Omar
Apr 1st, 2009
02:20:00 PM
I bought the workprint for $2 before it was in theaters. It was a lousy copy but it was the best I could find in an area about 500 miles from the nearest movie theater.
Fuck Wolverine, where is the LOST talkback?!
by Dhaemon
Apr 1st, 2009
02:25:48 PM
Come on give us the goods.
first hulk leaking
by stupidmop
Apr 1st, 2009
02:29:29 PM
Yeah I agree with people that the first hulk didnt tank because of piracy but becaue the movie was terrible, it was one of the few movies in a long time that i wanted to walk out on and not finish my popcorn
Piracy?
by Azlam Orlandu
Apr 1st, 2009
02:34:57 PM
Fuck, I would turn this piece of shit off if it was on FX tomorrow.
It's an april fools alright
by DrLektor
Apr 1st, 2009
02:36:21 PM
and the jokes on Fox. Here's the way piracy works for me. Yes I read a lot of reviews, AiCN and JoBlo are bookmarked so I can get the skinny on what the boys and girls who review movies on a daily basis think but at the end of the day I prefer to make up my own mind. If a movie comes out, I think I should have the right to get a taste, a preview, much the same way I'd go to a music store and have a listen to an album before I buy it. 9 times out of 10 the quality of the film will suck but I get an inkling of what it's like. If I think the movie is good, you'd better believe I'd see it in the theatre too AND get the DVD (in some cases multiple copies of the same film! Take that credit crunch.) But if the movie is say... Catwoman, or the Legend of Chun Li or Dragonball, I just saved myself untold amounts of money and time by checking it out for free, not to mention sticking it to the studio in question for releasing crappy timewasters. Yeah I'm a criminal but the real crooks here are the people who spend untold millions and pass this garbage off as entertainment. If your food is underdone at the restaurant, you send it back, what can a movie fan do except write a scathing review? Peace.
By running this story....
by HBdoubleJ
Apr 1st, 2009
02:40:52 PM
You have a bunch of people now seeking the leaked copy. Therefore, supporting piracy.
Early to rise, early to bed.
by CerebralAssassin
Apr 1st, 2009
02:43:42 PM
In and between I cooked and cleaned and went out of my head. Going through life with blinders on, it's tough to see. I had to get up, get out from under and look for me. There's a new girl in town and she's looking good. There's a fresh freckled face, in the neighborhoood. There's a new girl in town, with a brand new style. She was just passing through, but if things work out she's gonna stay awhile.
dhaemon
by stupidmop
Apr 1st, 2009
02:44:16 PM
ya where the hell is the lost talkback, though if you read the description of tonights ep on abc there is a major spoiler
Darth_Inedible
by Ace of Wands
Apr 1st, 2009
02:49:48 PM
well I disagree about season 3 of BSG and the lack of advertising revenue due to online viewing didn't produce a problem as the programme sold killer on DVD- hence revenue ( yeah, sure, I know the execs always want MORE revenue) but the point is that the programme made money it didn't lose it- plus it was prestigious.

I also don't think that the lack of piracy had anything to do with the creative golden age of the 1970's; I think that you may be looking back a little too kindly on films made during that period. Some were outstanding and creative juices were certainly flowing but the period had its fair share of turkeys- creativity and lack of it can be claimed for just about every definable period of cinema- and there has always been some form of piracy, admittedly not on the scale of that presently (but as someone has already pointed out, hasn't damaged HK cinema). What is destroying creativity though is business- it is taking over all forms of expression, it has nearly killed sport and, although it has been a part of cinema from it's inception, it now has a strangle hold, no, a death grip. The reason that originality is out and repetition is in is that the business just want's to keep on repeating its last success until it has squeezed every last drop of profit out of it, you can hear the cry "it made money last time, why isn't it working now?". The business does use original ideas- it uses them for all they are worth.

Piracy, DVD's Blu-Ray won't kill the cinema, remember when TV was the death knell?, didn't happen. I don't know about the States but The Dark Knight did wonders for Imax attendances here in the UK and I suspect that Cameron's next will drive people back to the cinemas for the sort of experience that they can only get there.

Thanks for the info AICN!!!!
by Seth Brundle
Apr 1st, 2009
02:56:51 PM
thanks to you now i can go download Wolverine and save money! i didnt know it was available! thanks for the heads up! (/Sarcasm) LOL
Finally...
by BendersShinyAss
Apr 1st, 2009
02:58:33 PM
...You cunts will never EVER say another bad thing about Ratner and X3. THAT film was fucking awesome.
I broke my own code of ethics...
by Magunga
Apr 1st, 2009
02:59:57 PM
...and watched this dreadful movie online. Seriously, people, this is worse than X-Men 3. It was worse than, Twilight, for God's sake!
The reason the 70's rocked
by Samuel Fulmer
Apr 1st, 2009
03:00:39 PM
There were a number of amaing talents that came into their own in that decade, and corporations hadn't totally took the artistry out of the industry yet. A smaller amount of piracy has nothing to do with it. If you want to blame anyone for the poor product we are now getting blame corporate America, people with short attention spans who will watch a movie just because it's called "fill in the blank popular old movie/comic/toy series", and just the general poor lack of talent we have right now.
By running this story...the terrorists win? Um...NO.
by SpyGuy
Apr 1st, 2009
03:01:33 PM
This story is all over the internet so it's hardly AICN's fault. And considering they would have gotten as much shit for NOT running it, it's safe to say they made the right call.
They Sodomized Deadpool!
by Magunga
Apr 1st, 2009
03:02:27 PM
...Figuratively speaking, of course.
what a day
by BendersShinyAss
Apr 1st, 2009
03:04:17 PM
All that work into bringing this film to life and it all come to april fools day 2009.

honestly, i reckon Fox leaked this on purpose, write it off, claim insurance, blame the internet and help rupert murdock get one step closer to owning the cyberspace and shutting all of us down in the process.

hahaha. nah im joking. the film is shit. it'll always be shit even when the visuals are finished and the editing tightened. people don't like shit. except those 2 girls with the 1 cup.

So, AICN just told me that I can watch Wolverine...
by TheMarineBiologist
Apr 1st, 2009
03:14:40 PM
...early.

I wouldn't have looked for the leak, but Beaks said it was a good idea to look for it.

Nice, AICN, nice...

Wha, Wha, Wha. . . .Poor Hollywood!
by Darth_Kaos
Apr 1st, 2009
03:17:28 PM
We're in a recession, yet everyone is still going to the movies. Won't pay the bills, but they'll pay $10-12 bucks to watch a movie.

Like all things, the hardest working people (Film Crew-even union) gets screwed, while the same overpaid dickweeds (Hollywood Executives and some actors) continue to get work. Now, piracy does affect a segment of the bottom line no doubt. But not to the degree that they want you to think (its only around about 3-8%) unlike the music industry which is around 20-35%.

Personally, I think people who buy or participate in piracy suck. Those who do it, don't have a artistic bone in their body. Cause if they did, they would know how it feels when someone steals your work. Imagine if someone walked in your room, stole your ipod and PS3. How would you feel? And that's the whole point. Hollywood isn't hurting.

from the BBC
by BendersShinyAss
Apr 1st, 2009
03:18:16 PM
One user wrote on aintitcool.com: "The CGI is missing and the movie looks horrible without it.

"Even if you see the workprint you're still going to have to go see it in the theatre to fully experience the full movie with CGI effects fully intact."

(who the fuck are they kidding???)

HEY DGDB!
by The Eskimo
Apr 1st, 2009
03:20:09 PM
Are you gonna review this over on aintitbalenews...or take the "moral high ground"? Inquiring minds want to know...you amateur fuck :)
Toby_FN_Wong
by DeusExMachina
Apr 1st, 2009
03:20:20 PM
I agree, I think that Hugh Jackman wanted to deliver a really bad ass movie. Just like Thomas Jane wanted to deliver a good Punisher. That's hard to do though when the studio has the last word. With that said. I don't like what I've heard so far, but it is April Fool's Day. I read in one review that Ryan Reynold's scenes were very short, which means that all that extra filming they did a few months back is not in this leaked copy. So I'm going to wait until May. I'm still not going to pay $10 for it. I'm going to get it from the hatian guy at the chicken shack.
Just came back from the Comic shop...
by Blancoshadow
Apr 1st, 2009
03:20:41 PM
No one cared about fucking Deadpool or what they did to him. People are going to see the movie about WOLVERINE. Face it people, I love the site and read everyone's talkback but Watchmen and all it's legal bullshit is done with. It was a fuckin one week wonder that no one gives 2 shits about, people still have no idea it was a comic book, holy grail of comics my ass...
Speaking of 2 girls 1 cup
by turketron
Apr 1st, 2009
03:25:30 PM
I'd rather order and pay for the full version of that film than pay to see this pile of shit, after what I'm hearing about it.
Downloading is theft.
by DennisMM
Apr 1st, 2009
03:32:53 PM
Period. Pro-pirate types say information wants to be free. Information wants nothing. THEY want information to be free, even when it cost someone millions to create. Ask them how they'd feel if they stopped in Penney's and stole a shirt. Do shirts want to be free?
OH so AICN hates Fox; then loves them. ADD nerds
by BurgerKing
Apr 1st, 2009
03:33:16 PM
One minute FOX is fucking over Watchmen and all the internet nerds are shitting their pants and boycotting Fox. Then Fox's biggest summer movie leaks on the net and all of a sudden AICN predictably forgets about how they hated them weeks earlier and now all of a sudden want to help and defend Fox because times are hard for the industry.

Give me a fucking break. Try remembering back more than 2 weeks.

Oh sure, Piracy is to blame
by RaptorJesus
Apr 1st, 2009
03:37:48 PM
Why can't these numbskulls get it through their heads? People don't download as well as go to movies, they download instead of for a movie they would not have seen anyway. Any fans of Wolverine are going to pay for it regardless. People who realize it's just another lame superhero movie(As opposed to a great superhero movie) will download it and not mind. To blame theaters losing their jobs because of piracy is just naive.
Does the workprint have a carnival scene?
by Riley Martin
Apr 1st, 2009
03:40:26 PM
I watched that being filmed here in Australia. But someone told me there's nothing like that in there. Is that true?
Yawn
by chuffsterUK
Apr 1st, 2009
03:42:44 PM
Said it before,say it again,anyone,ANYONE on here NEVER,EVER watched a pirate movie,not even is a kid?Perhaps a rare horror,or ET,anything?? I doubt it.
Your whole argument about piracy is totally fucking flawed.
by Holeman
Apr 1st, 2009
03:44:51 PM
The plain and simple fact of the matter is this: if your film is good, it will do well at the box office. "Taken" has proved this beyond doubt. "Wolverine" is a shit movie. No fucking way is an extra 15 minutes of CGI sparkly going to improve this turd. It DESERVES to fail and no one should be forced to pay for this tripe. It is completely irrelevant that a bunch of people worked and slaved to bring this picture to theaters. All the people who worked on this movie WASTED THEIR FUCKING TIME! The plain and simple fact of the matter is this: they created a wholly worthless and unsatisfying product. No one should be forced to pay for this shit. If this movie fails, it will have failed because it deserved to. No one with even the slightest amount of taste would watch this movie and walk away thinking they got their money's worth. The message that Hollywood should be taking away from this is: MAKE BETTER FUCKING MOVIES! Unfortunately, I doubt-fuckheads that they are-the point will make it across. Fuck this movie. Everyone please download it.
KARMA FOR WATCHMEN SUIT
by spidermanfreak20
Apr 1st, 2009
03:46:24 PM
All is right in the world. How funny how the universe wraps everything up. They tried to steal and shutdown Watchmen (even turned in a profit) and now they will lose that from THEIR biggest Superhero movie. How utterly satisfying to know their greed did not go unpunished.
It's not that 'hollywood is hurting', it's that piracy hurts the
by Darth_Inedible
Apr 1st, 2009
03:48:27 PM
When you're dealing with a market rife with piracy savvy consumers you have to aim at the broadest, basest audience to ensure the same return that you got when everyone had to pay to see your product. Nobody's saying that Hollywood is going to starve, but you can bet that they're going to make their money by churning out as few gigantic mega-tentpole 70-80s-remake 3D blockbusters as possible.
Screw Vic Taybac
by shran
Apr 1st, 2009
03:48:45 PM
Just screw him.
..hurts the product.
by Darth_Inedible
Apr 1st, 2009
03:49:09 PM
Riley Martin
by breathwillowmist
Apr 1st, 2009
03:51:57 PM
Yes there is a carnival scene
The Eskimo
by Stuntcock Mike
Apr 1st, 2009
03:52:17 PM
I'll be posting a review of this epic in a day or two. Thanks for the sterling contributions by the way.
Yeah I'm a thief
by Biffs_Pleasure_Paradise
Apr 1st, 2009
03:55:12 PM
But I don't feel a single amount of remorse about it, because at least 3 times a month I still plop down 20 bucks for my girlfriend and I to see a movie worth our time (ok, sometimes just worth her time). Not to mention the 4 dollar sodas and 8 dollar hot dogs. So yeah, piracy is 'wrong wrong wrong', but I don't give a fuck fuck fuck.
And one more thing
by Biffs_Pleasure_Paradise
Apr 1st, 2009
03:56:33 PM
I never download any shitty bootleg cam copies of new movies. If anything, piracy might prevent me from buying a dvd, but not seeing a movie in theaters.
I love conspipracy
by Phategod2
Apr 1st, 2009
03:57:34 PM
And I think Hollywood owes a sh!tload of Pirated movies like Back taxes.
Hey Beaks I've downloaded it and I'm gonna watch it.
by FookU
Apr 1st, 2009
03:57:41 PM
Fuck you and your out of work friend asshole.
I love conspiracy
by Phategod2
Apr 1st, 2009
03:57:52 PM
And I think Hollywood owes me a sh!tload of Pirated movies like Back taxes.
Corporations hadn't taken over in the 70s because...
by Darth_Inedible
Apr 1st, 2009
03:58:55 PM
People actually had to go to a theater and PAY MONEY to see your independent film in the '70s. You couldn't check it out on youtube or download the torrent. You didn't have to sell your soul to Warner Brothers to get something off the ground because you could actually make money distributing it yourself to paying audiences. And to people who say this is because of a lack of independent theaters today, I urge you to go ahead and start an indy theater in your town and see how unsustainable that model is in the internet age.
oh, give me a break
by fastcars
Apr 1st, 2009
03:59:04 PM
1) movies are overpriced, and the people that work on them are overpaid. 2) most of the nerds that download wolverine will see it in the theater and buy it on dvd, anyway. out of x-men loyalty, and because action movies suck on computer monitors. 3) why not post viewer reviews? you did it for every futurama movie, which people obviously downloaded before its release date. i mean, if you're going to post an article letting people know about the leak, you might as well post reviews 4) i say this as someone who does not download, because i'm happy with netflix, and i don't care enough about any upcoming movies to go the torrent trouble. aicn's the shit, but file this article under 'lameness' next to the christian bale defense article.
Wait if you can
by ao33
Apr 1st, 2009
03:59:49 PM
It's shit for the most part... I can see how some of the finished fx might be interesting but the ending was horrible. Hopefully they fix it because, one thing in particular happens (if you've watched it you know) that just fucks the whole movie...
I'd watch an illegal workprint of Jurassic Park 4
by SoylentMean
Apr 1st, 2009
04:05:56 PM
but Wolverine? Come on. If you like summer tentpole fx extravaganzas as much as I do why in the hell would you even think about downloading a pirated copy of a movie that, beyond its most assured spectacle, will probably suck in terms of logic and storytelling?

I can wait to see Wolverine fighting his brother who looks nothing like Sabertooth from the first X-Men movie. I can wait.

Too late Fox, I've already got it.
by Stuntcock Mike
Apr 1st, 2009
04:06:53 PM
Watching it tonight.
X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE hits my house,
by Stuntcock Mike
Apr 1st, 2009
04:07:40 PM
TONIGHT!
Fox,you cunts
by chuffsterUK
Apr 1st, 2009
04:08:04 PM
`Hurts the fans of the film`-how?
Besides, what are the possible repercussions?
by SoylentMean
Apr 1st, 2009
04:10:08 PM
It's obviously illegal. Besides the expected fine, couldn't this possibly lead to some jail time?

"What are you in for?"

"I downloaded Wolverine illegally just to see it a month early." "Wow. That's pretty hardcore."

"Yeah, pretty cool, huh?" "Oh yeah, most definitely cool. By the way, it looks like you dropped your soap. Aren't you gonna pick it up?"

"and above all, hurts the fans of the film."
by odj310388
Apr 1st, 2009
04:10:29 PM
Who would be a fan of that piece of crap story?
"Fans of the film"?
by Darkknight37
Apr 1st, 2009
04:11:59 PM
I'm pretty sure there won't be many of those after watching this piece of shit.
How about... SUCK MY BALLS, FOX.
by Fenrisulfr
Apr 1st, 2009
04:16:53 PM
That's right, suck my big hairy sweaty balls. I really don't give a shit about this movie, but I after what they did to some of our beloved 80s franchises, after assraping Hitman fans with the movie of the same name... I won't miss one chance to insult these bastards. And in other news, I know no one gives a shit, but I'm going to bang a really hot italian chick in 2 weeks.
I'm a fan of the film
by penhapus
Apr 1st, 2009
04:17:25 PM
you bastards! *sobs*
Fox Thinking Of the Fans
by medicinaluser
Apr 1st, 2009
04:19:54 PM
WTF when did they release that memo as I sure as hell missed it.

They will never care about the fans as Rothman said so himself "FUCK THE FANS, WE ALREADY GOT THERE MONEY"

Ummm not this time Asshole.
For someone to go to jail
by cmbuzzkill
Apr 1st, 2009
04:22:09 PM
over this piece of crap is almost as funny as someone going to jail for releasing a workprint of the Ang Lee Hulk movie. Don`t drop the soap...
"going to bang a really hot italian chick in 2 weeks""
by boosebaster
Apr 1st, 2009
04:22:26 PM
Love it, boasting about sex you haven't had yet.
I'd still like harry or beaks to make a reply...
by lex romero
Apr 1st, 2009
04:23:47 PM
in the thread.

I understand that a site has to grow to survive, I like to think the beginning of the site was its teenage years. It worked from the outside and got secret scoops and was fighting the "man".

As the site grew up it started getting invites to screenings and film sets, and, if it wanted to keep doing those things it had to grow up and accept it couldn't still try and be the rebel. So the site gives up one thing in the hopes of gaining something better. That's perfectly fine and I get it.

What I don't get is this sudden turn around, this holier than thou attitude that downloading the film would be terrible, reviewing it would be terrible and it would leave all of the films cast and crew homeless and penniless.

It's been pointed out that AICN have posted reviews of workprint films before, Harry himself has! So to act like that comes across as condescending and hypocritical. Especially after a few weeks ago it was "boycott fox!". Now it's "go see it in the cinema!".

I'm ok with you not wanting to promote piracy, not wanting to have reviews of the workprint on your site. But I just think the tone of the article and the way you talk about it comes across as if you're on an incredibly high horse. Which is bull.
Fenrisulfr
by medicinaluser
Apr 1st, 2009
04:25:12 PM
Pictures/Video or it never happened OR all along was really your hand with a mini dark wig stuck on top as you pleasured and talked dirty to yourself in an Italian accent.
illegal downloads are for stupid people
by FamousEccles
Apr 1st, 2009
04:27:34 PM
A Vic Tayback reference?! Now that IS cool!
by Uncle Stan
Apr 1st, 2009
04:28:47 PM
Darth_Inedible
by Ace of Wands
Apr 1st, 2009
04:30:04 PM
"Nobody's saying that Hollywood is going to starve, but you can bet that they're going to make their money by churning out as few gigantic mega-tentpole 70-80s-remake 3D blockbusters as possible."

Yes they are but that has got nothing to do with piracy, it has got to do with whatever they own the copyright to or can buy up cheap and what made them a shed load of money last time. Their problem is not with making money or making enough money but with making MORE money- enough is never enough with these assholes. Piracy does not dent their income a whit worth mentioning, if it actually did they may take the measures that I mentioned above. Many people watch pirated films because they can't view it in their part of the world due to release dates or bans or just lack of interest by the frakkin cinema chain. In my area of the UK The Assassination of Jessie James by the Coward Robert Ford did not play, deemed by the two local Showcase's to not have enough of an audience, being a Western and a languid Western at that- so that left the option of piracy until the DVD came out which was then duly purchased. So in this case Warner Bros gained by piracy, I liked it enough to purchase the DVD. I'm sure that there are many stories like that- I know I have several.

Point is that I question just how much money these film companies lose to piracy- I'd like to see their figures but of course it is impossible for them to know for sure (case above) and so any figure they produce is an estimate and would undoubtedly be a biased one. This is purely and simply a case of greed and more importantly it is about control, if they could life their product so that you had to replace it every couple of years, they would (in fact Lucas has run a variation of this with his never ending goddamn iterations of Star Wars).

We live in a world of bread and circuses where reality TV is the newest incarnation of looking at sideshow freaks at the circus- the entertainment industry isn't going bust anytime soon, something has to stop the masses rioting. So don't listen to the bleating of these guys- if there were really any truth in their piratical claims do you really think that they would have to Hollywoodise their anti-piracy message with fear by claiming that anyone, anyone, who purchases an illegal DVD or game or piece of music or downloads such is directly supporting the mafia and child prostitution and the running of drugs?. See, and you said there was no creativity left in Hollywood.

FamousEccles
by chuffsterUK
Apr 1st, 2009
04:31:26 PM
Twat.
Hey Harry, when are you posting your review?
by OBESE_WAN_KENOBI
Apr 1st, 2009
04:33:39 PM
Cuz we all know you've watched this.
WAIT - ther are fans of this film?
by COCKNASTY_BUTTSTANK
Apr 1st, 2009
04:33:44 PM
EVERYONE WHO HAS SEEN IT SAYS IT'S FUCKING SHIT.
i still don't get the double standard
by drturing
Apr 1st, 2009
04:33:54 PM
if harry reviews a workprint or a prerelease, it's ok. if someone sends in a test screening review for an unfinished film it's ok... so there's basically you all in the gilded castle where rules can be bent, and then everyone else. let's face it aicn made its name doing exactly what you're up on your high horse condemnding. meanwhile merrick is dealing with his asperger's syndrome and adding up the price of bond dvds.
I'm sorry, but who gives a
by electric_sheep
Apr 1st, 2009
04:34:22 PM
fuck about Fox. Seriously.
btw i say this as someone who has
by drturing
Apr 1st, 2009
04:34:53 PM
never downloaded a movie, and attended early screenings and not once written it up. i just don't understand how aicn can take a side here.
Ain
by Bandit 37
Apr 1st, 2009
04:35:42 PM
"We Don't Want Your WOLVERINE Reviews"...but if you have a bootleg Phantom Menace script we'll take it. This story is ridiculously hypocritical. This site is founded on stolen/leaked material from studios. But now that it's a very small part of the same system leach on you suddenly don't approve it all?
Pretty awful
by pearlanddean
Apr 1st, 2009
04:36:08 PM
So they spend a fortune putting adamantium in Wolvie, when he goes running off he decides he has to be killed? Best of luck with that. The whole scene with the motorbike and the helicopter looked dreadful and I doubt any amount of tidying up will help. And how come it crashes and blows up, Wolvie sparks a convenient trail of gasoline, chopper blows up again! Gambit breaks up a fight with Wolvie and Sabretooth but why? He was kidnapped by him, why help him escape? And converting Deadpool into a mute with Cyclops eyes and full length swords in his arms was truly daft. And Adamantium Bullets to reset his memory of the entire film? I could do with some of those myself. FX and wires aside, it was dreadful and you Fox shills and plants trying to save it can go fuck yourselves.
I love how the post ends with
by COCKNASTY_BUTTSTANK
Apr 1st, 2009
04:36:40 PM
"X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE" droppin' liek it's hot in cinemas on MAY 1st!

Fucking sellout hypocrite douchebags.

Ain't It Hypocritical News?
by Bandit 37
Apr 1st, 2009
04:37:21 PM
"We Don't Want Your WOLVERINE Reviews"...but if you have a bootleg Phantom Menace script we'll take it. This story is ridiculously hypocritical. This site is founded on stolen/leaked material from studios. But now that it's a very small part of the same system leach on you suddenly don't approve it all?
Fox the fans.
by chuffsterUK
Apr 1st, 2009
04:37:58 PM
Still don't know how the fans are being`hurt`-if you want to watch it,watch it,if you don't,don't,simple choice. No-one's forcing anyone to watch an unfinished print. Tell you what though,it's always interesting to compare a workprint with the finished product. Wonder if anyone here whining about piracy ever understood the value of pirate copies of the`Blade Runner`workprint and the like?
as for respecting fox...
by drturing
Apr 1st, 2009
04:38:24 PM
calling them out for them actually following up on what legally they were supposed to do, and the constant bitching on tom rothman (which is deserved no less). it's just hilarious to see you people go all white knighty. in a weird way i think the hypocrisy actually emboldens impulsive adolescent morons to download this film to spite you all, because it looks like you have a special relationship now.
Damn I love Genovide...
by Shock Corridor
Apr 1st, 2009
04:38:52 PM
I'd just as soon wait til it's on DVD anyways.
by Sal_Bando
Apr 1st, 2009
04:39:07 PM
No real interest in seeing this otherwise. Who cares? As for the illegal copy-fuck that shit. Why bother?
I'm downloading this piece of shit the minute I get home
by COCKNASTY_BUTTSTANK
Apr 1st, 2009
04:43:01 PM
Then open up my computer, shit inside of it, and wait for the FBI to come bursting through my door, so when they crack open my computer and smell the freshly diarrhea-sprayed hard drive, they'll instantly know which movie I illegally downloaded.
NEEDS GIANT ROBOTS
by Sal_Bando
Apr 1st, 2009
04:44:21 PM
(Sentinels) you know I'm right.
AICN Posted An FU On Fox
by spidermanfreak20
Apr 1st, 2009
04:46:33 PM
They posted it when Watchmen might be stalled. They linked to shitted talk rants. Remember eat all the dicks. Now AICN are saving themselves the AD dollars I am sure Fox will give them when Wolverine puts out flash trailers. If I see 1 Wolverine ad on this site...whoa brother.
Downloading is theft? SHITTY MOVIES ARE THEFT.
by COCKNASTY_BUTTSTANK
Apr 1st, 2009
04:51:17 PM
If I paid to see this fucking turd of a movie, and it fucking sucks fuckin'ass balls, then I AM THE ONE who was fucking robbed. So I'll download anything I fucking want.
Uncle Stan
by shran
Apr 1st, 2009
04:52:47 PM
I said screw him. All to heck.
Downloading is theft?
by p0llk4t
Apr 1st, 2009
04:56:16 PM
Not really. It's copyright infringement. One is criminal and one is civil. Big difference!

"Copyright infringement is not 'theft' in the same way that taking a CD(DVD) from a store is theft," said Mark Lemley, a copyright expert at Stanford University Law School. "If I take your physical property, I have it and you no longer do. If I copy your song(movie), I have it, but so do you."
To all of the "pirates"
by Rorschach1
Apr 1st, 2009
04:56:19 PM
1. You don't care about the work that was put into them, or the idea behind the film, whether it was great or not, I guarantee its better than you can do. Write your own million dollar movie script and then you're allowed to say what sucks. Thanks
Somewhere Rupert Murdoch is sharpening his knives
by fiester
Apr 1st, 2009
04:56:36 PM
I've no doubt he will catch the culprit and have all responsible parties shipped to his secret island that doubles as a Fox torture lab where he and his dominatrix-clad Chinese piece-of-ass wife will go all torture porn on them.

"Cuz I'm Rupert Murdoch, billionaire tyrant, and that's how I roll, yo!"

To be honest..
by Stalkeye
Apr 1st, 2009
04:57:15 PM
I don't give two shits about the debate on piracy it's not as a danger to the Movie studios as some would make it out to be. because if it's a good film, people will flock to see it. Taken has been out on the torrents for quite sometime before the US theatrical release which took in a lot of BO returns.

Hollywood has been staying afloat thanks to comicbook adaptations and to some extent; shitty remakes.Let those fuckers come up with something original for once instead of bitching about piracy (which I don't condone, but if it's free, what the fuck?) as me and my friends shell out our hard earned dollars for Blu ray DVDs and theater releases.

FOX complaining about this is like
by COCKNASTY_BUTTSTANK
Apr 1st, 2009
05:01:18 PM
an AIDS patient complaining that someone they fucked has AIDS now, too.
Thanks for the stern update AION
by the_shogun_gunslinger
Apr 1st, 2009
05:02:37 PM
Hows that Rothman dick taste Harry/Beaks? Probably tastes like cold hard CA$H.

This has nothing to do with "Oh, look its freeeeeeeee!!!!" It has to do with the fact that we've been hearing nothing but bad news and now we can confirm it. You've desecrated yet another potentially amazing film. This is the bed Fox has made by making such gems as:
X3
AVP
AVP:R

Die Hard 4

FF4

FF4:RotSS

Hitman

Daredevil

Ghost Rider

Do I REALLY have to keep going? ALL of those films had the potential to be absolutely mind-blowing...ALL are utter SHIT!

Still got that work print of AOTC lying around Harry? How about that TPM leaked script that you BUILT YOUR FUCKING CAREER ON?!?! Thanks for the ethics lesson. Now go shove it right up your fat ass.

"We forensically mark our content so we can identify sources..."
by Leafar the Lost
Apr 1st, 2009
05:04:44 PM
According to the statement, it appears that FOX is going to arrest not only the people who released the movie, but also the people who saw it. So, all you geeks who thought you saw a free movie will now be paying for it the hard way, by spending time in jail getting your buttholes violated. I quote, "We forensically mark our content so we can identify sources that make it available or download it. The source of the initial leak and any subsequent postings will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law - the courts have handed down significant criminal sentences for such acts and the last person who committed such a crime is still in jail." Tommy Rothman enjoys using his power to punish geeks by throwing them in jail, and then forcing them to see his movies 24 hours a day. Get ready for Hell, bitches!
Rorschach1
by lex romero
Apr 1st, 2009
05:07:52 PM
Argh, that's the worst attempt at defending a shit film I've ever heard, I hate that logic.

"Murr you couldn't paint a painting/write a book/direct a film, so you can't have an opinion on whether it's good or not!"

Wtf? So only people who have made one of those things themeslves can have opnions on other works? Becasuse I've not made a film I can't point out if a film is shit? If it has a crap script or acting? Don't talk bollocks.
FOX is also shutting down all public libraries for...
by Leafar the Lost
Apr 1st, 2009
05:07:54 PM
...giving out their movies for FREE to people with library cards. They will be punished to the fullest extent of the LAW.
OH LAWDY THEY IS TRACKIN MY ELECTRONIC IMPULSES
by turketron
Apr 1st, 2009
05:08:51 PM
FROM MY COMPUTAH!!!! *THROWS MONITOR AT THE WALL*

pussies.

No one is going to fucking jail, Leafar you fuckface
by COCKNASTY_BUTTSTANK
Apr 1st, 2009
05:09:09 PM
If you think that quote has ANY grain of truth to it, you're a goddamn fucking brain-dead sack of retard. They only release that quote to make people SCARED.

Hey FOX! I'm watching WOLVERINE right fucking now! Come and get me!

Leafar, you're a fucking dumbass.

E_Nizzle
by the_shogun_gunslinger
Apr 1st, 2009
05:09:45 PM
of course he watched it. Don't let his sob story fool you. Guess all those reports of theater attendance being up and all those B.O. Records being broken isn't enough for this upcoming and "staggering" transition. Guess your buddy will have to get coffee for another empty suit, Beaks.
that's funny beaks remember when you
by drturing
Apr 1st, 2009
05:09:51 PM
used to do script reviews?

http://www.aintitcool.com/disp lay.cgi?id=12709

See, now I don't know if you were being sarcastic
by COCKNASTY_BUTTSTANK
Apr 1st, 2009
05:10:28 PM
WHAT THE FUCK
yeah Rorschach1, get fucked by a bag of acid filled cocks
by turketron
Apr 1st, 2009
05:10:48 PM
I have never been fucked or fucked anyone after filling my cock with acid, but I have a strong feeling that it would suck!
Sad to say, but...
by DonQuixote
Apr 1st, 2009
05:10:57 PM
...I have to agree with the folks pointing out the obnoxious hypocrisy from the powers-that-be at AICN. It's pretty clear that their attitude towards the behaviors that obtained the original kinds of "scoops" that generated the news that was "cool" back in the day are now the tactics that are not just frowned upon but sneered at -- now that AICN has very clearly become something of a publicity arm of the studios. Oh well. They know it. We know it. Time to move on.
Oh man! They had 3/4 of a good movie here
by Offmehead
Apr 1st, 2009
05:11:02 PM
I was going to see this at the cinema - I really was - and yet I could not resist and downloaded the workprint. For the first 3/4 of the movie it was great - and then they shat all over it. Deadpool - OK - I could almost live with the adamantium swords - but the teleporting?? the optic blasts?? Oh for fucks sake!!! The last 20 minutes of this movie are utter shit. They unfortunately destroy the previous hour and 20 that I was liking a lot - maybe even loving a little. Apparantly there is 15 mins missing from this movie - lets hope its the last 15 minutes, rewritten and reshot because I have never seen a movie kill its ending as badly as this - and I saw Reign of Fire!!!
Forensically mark our content...fuck off utter horseshit
by quantize
Apr 1st, 2009
05:11:17 PM
i couldnt give a fuck anyway, i wouldnt download it much less see it in a theater or on DVD
Fanboys won't like this...
by kjmad25
Apr 1st, 2009
05:12:17 PM
But I'm not a fanboy. Looking at this purely as a mindless action flick it's really not too bad.
Someone please confirm for me the Cyclops vision / Deadpool thin
by Particularly Hard Vato
Apr 1st, 2009
05:13:11 PM
I mean seriously, if the idiots at Fox don't have the decency to respect the comic book stories they interpret in to film by simply NOT ADDING RIDICULOUS PLOT POINTS THAT ARE NOT PART OF MAJOR CHARACTERS' BACKSTORIES, then I see no reason to pay money to see this. One of the things I loved so much about the Dark knight was the way Nolan had renvisioned the Batman universe witha good dose of realism and any changes he made were neccessary to that end. that is whythe Joker worked so well- the idea of an acid back was not realistic. But what he did was better- he grounded the character in reality. But Fox unnecessarily adding things like mutant abilities to Deadpool he never had is simply ridiculous. It shows that Fox truly has no respect for the fans of the material. There is no reason to reward that kind of movie making. It's time these jackasses learned to treat both their subject matter and their fans with respect. WB loves Pirate Bay!
Opinions on Workprints EQUALLY valid to Harry 'previews'
by quantize
Apr 1st, 2009
05:14:09 PM
thas a fact
we can identify sources that [...] download it
by photoboy
Apr 1st, 2009
05:17:33 PM
I'm sorry but that's just bullshit, how do you track when someone watches a re-encoded piece of video? It's not possible. I understand they want to preserve their box office opening but lying to people who will know you're lying is just insulting. And given what they've done to Deadpool it's not like people were excited about this film in the first place...
What about Taken
by movienerd
Apr 1st, 2009
05:21:52 PM
i pretty sure Taken was out on dvd in the U.K well before the theater release in the US and thats made over 100 million in the theater
what im wondering
by FrenchBastard03
Apr 1st, 2009
05:21:58 PM
is why people keep bashing on rupert murdoch and saying how pissed off he must be right now. you do know rupert murdoch has nothing to do with the Fox Entertainment division, which is headed up by the sloth that is tom rothman. get your facts straight people, damn.
Anyone get the boring coda after the end credits?
by Riley Martin
Apr 1st, 2009
05:23:04 PM
Usually they put something really twisty or cool or funny after the end credits, but it's just him drowning his sorrows in a bar in Japan. wtf?????
To all of the "suits"
by p0llk4t
Apr 1st, 2009
05:23:24 PM
I hope all your studios go bankrupt and your soulless Hollywood movie making system goes down in flames. You are all creatively bankrupt and produce 95% worthless shit.

NO BALLS! Grow a sack and make some original films. What a fucking novel idea! No more movies based on TV shows and comics. No more remakes and sequels. I fucking dare you to try!
This is why they...
by Harold-Sherbort
Apr 1st, 2009
05:25:34 PM
..made such a stink over Watchmen. They realized that once word of mouth got around on this movie, they had a bomb on their hands, and were going to need that extra money to make up for it. Bad form Fox. Bad form.
What a load of horseshit
by DrLektor
Apr 1st, 2009
05:28:04 PM
Where's your integrity AiCN? More importantly, where are your balls? Fox have continued to fuck us for years and we just bent over and took it, quite frankly it's about time they got a shot of cock in the ass for a change.
I Don't Really Care About Wolverine . . .
by kevinwillis.net
Apr 1st, 2009
05:28:21 PM
But this: "We forensically mark our content so we can identify sources that make it available or download it."

That's not possible, douchebags. Do you really think the geeks are that stupid? You can forensically mark it so you can find out who originally leaked it, but that's pretty much it. Figure out who downloaded it? Now, you're just trying to scare people.

Fortunately, most people won't have any real interest in watching this movie for free. Downloading takes time. Watching a movie also takes time. Who wants to waste their life energy on another Fox superhero clusterfork?
Fox: "We suck in doing movies...
by joergn
Apr 1st, 2009
05:28:50 PM
but if it comes to lawsuits,...we rule!!!" or "the last one who broke our law is still in Guantanamo...err..jail!" Sorry, but Karma really seems to be a bitch, boys.
A Quick Review of the Wolverine Movie
by kevinwillis.net
Apr 1st, 2009
05:29:52 PM
Based on the trailers, and the fact it's fox: Epic Fail.

I bet actually seeing the movie won't change this opinion.
3/4 of it was good?!
by Magunga
Apr 1st, 2009
05:31:46 PM
What movie did you watch? There was no character development, no chemistry, the plot was silly and cliched from scene 1, the dialog was embarrassingly cheesy, and the movie had no flow. Perhaps the missing footage will fill in some of the gaps in the movie's timeline and help explain the motivations behind the characters' actions. This was awful from the beginning.
E_Nizzle
by COCKNASTY_BUTTSTANK
Apr 1st, 2009
05:32:38 PM
as long as we both write the movie while drunk off our asses, with WOLVERINE playing in the background, and none of the characters have mouths.

And every subtitle reads "FUCK!".

@ movienerd
by Rollofpennies
Apr 1st, 2009
05:32:55 PM
The thing about Taken is that is was good. Wolverine wont get word of mouth like Taken did. But it will make some kind of money. I loved Taken. Even the trailer was nice. But this so-called WOlverine movie looked bad from the gate. Less money. Same story. Not dark just more of Logan getting his ass-kicked and a few curse words. Still no blood, more love and kissing. An adult Twilight. Excruciating amount of wife-beaters and FOX interference everywhere make this a so-what movie. No costumes, no Imax, no 3D.
Not the first or the last
by WickedJester
Apr 1st, 2009
05:33:37 PM
Star Wars leaked before release, LOTR TT leaked before release.

As long as people have an internet connection, they'll be out there.

If a movie's good, I'll buy it.

Me going to the cheap Tuesday for $6 isn't going to pad Fox's account.
Make a good movie and I buy the blu-ray..
Saw it and wow just...man...
by HollywoodHellraiser
Apr 1st, 2009
05:33:51 PM
Trust me when I say I thought X3 was the final nail in this franchise's coffin. I was wrong.

This movie is the Blade3 of the X franchise. I..I just considered it a blessing I didn't waste my money.

PEOPLE. ARE. GOING. TO. BE. PISSED.

I will end this this debate right now..
by the_shogun_gunslinger
Apr 1st, 2009
05:38:04 PM
..and I'll do it using my usual flawless LOGIC ( R.I.P George)

The studios think that because someone downloads a movie they'll never pay to see/own it. Lets end this debate right now, shall we?

We'll use TDK as the example because it's current and disputably the highest grossing film of all time, an Oscar winning film and a critic/fan favorite. Its also made by WB but thats another story...

So according to the assumptions of FOX and other studios, if they look at my HD and find a DVD quality rip of TDK, they WON'T find it on my DVD rack. Well sorry to disappoint but you'll actually find both. A further investigation will also reveal 3 ticket stubs for TDK in my desk drawer, 2 of which are for the IMAX version, which is twice the price of a regular ticket. Now why is this? The answer is simple...
Because it a movie WORTH buying and supporting! Thats it... mystery solved. The film-makers, studio, actors, writers, producers and everyone down to the caterers gave 110% on that film and it SHOWS! More importantly, they RESPECTED THE FANS AND SOURCE MATERIAL.

Now lets flash forward 5-6 months after Wolverine has opened and now is hitting DVD. If you would look on my HD, my DVD shelf or in my desk drawer, you will not find a shred of evidence that "Wolverine" ever even happened. Why? BECAUSE IT FUCKING SUCKS!!!! Its not a film worth owning/seeing/supporting. Its poorly made/acted/written/shot/paced and I bet even the food on the set wasn't much better than steamed toast.

You want a successful film that fans will be happy to spend their hard earned money to see and support? Then make it a GOOD FILM!

Piracy has absolutely no effect on a persons decision to spend money on a film. Shit I've bought 3 different versions of "Oldboy" since I first saw it as a bootleg. Why? Because I love it and I can tell the film makers did as well. Watching Wolverine was like watching a kid get more and more frustrated with his new big ass Lego set and by the end, he's just throwing the pieces at the wall or shoving them up his nose.

Make better movies FOX, end of story.

The Times They Are a Changin'
by Darkknight37
Apr 1st, 2009
05:38:24 PM
Damn, I remember when leaks were the most badass news to speak on, when the internet was in its infancy. Since this is the #1 way of getting any movie information, now rebel sites are all apart of the evil empire. They are all at risk of bullying so much, that they stay loyal by straddling the fence with who they used to be. You don't want to be a site that condones these actions? Stop reporting it then. You are not that site anymore with the ability to post something that is so scoop worthy anymore. This place is a haven for friends of insiders that walk on eggshells in order to protect their relationships with people who can get them tickets to advance screenings. We'll,here's an advance screening, review away.
Fuck Fox
by Sicuv Uyall
Apr 1st, 2009
05:38:42 PM
Forensically mark this, bitches.
Rorschach1
by chuffsterUK
Apr 1st, 2009
05:40:59 PM
"You don't care about the work that was put into them, or the idea behind the film, whether it was great or not, I guarantee its better than you can do. Write your own million dollar movie script and then you're allowed to say what sucks." Are you a filmmaker?If not,YOU are forbidden to express your opinion on any film from now on.This also applies if you are not a sportsman/musician/artist/etc etc. If I see ANY comments from you with a personal opinion of a movie,I will demand that you remove them immediately. Cock.
Just finished watching.
by Cosmo Nautilus
Apr 1st, 2009
05:43:05 PM
AICN doesn't condone piracy?
by GhostDad
Apr 1st, 2009
05:43:24 PM
Moriarty: It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPIRITED AWAY I remember before this site, back in the old newsgroup days, Harry was THE GUY to get you bootlegs, leaked script, workprints, etc. This site was built on that. But now it's wrong and costs people in hollywood jobs? Nah, now they don't condone it because it means Hugh Jackman's assistant won't write emails to Harry as Hugh saying how he's his best friend. Now it means no XXXXL Wolverine T-shirts. The point of sites like this (and the old corona site, etc) were to seize the new frontier of the internet, where everything was available, and give readers access to stuff they won't find in variety or anywhere else. I guess maybe call it over-saturation, maybe "maturity," but that's not the case anymore. I'd be fine with this is all of you at AICN would just go ahead and say "Yes, we condoned piracy in the past." Also, would you be so opposed to piracy if this was a leak of "Meet the Spartans" or "Epic Movie" and not a "geek tentpole?" I highly doubt it.
I think it's funny that...
by DanielKurland
Apr 1st, 2009
05:45:52 PM
A LOT of people were wishing this would happen, back when the Watchmen lawsuit was resolved, and FOX would be making a ton of money for nothing. I guess this makes them even?
and make a fucking edit button
by GhostDad
Apr 1st, 2009
05:46:41 PM
for christsakes
AintItCorporateNews
by meta4
Apr 1st, 2009
05:47:20 PM
AintItCorporateNewsAintItCorpo rateNewsAintItCorporateNewsAin tItCorporateNewsAintItCorporat eNews...so is it safe to say the reason Mori left is because Harry Sucked Rothmans dick during a secret screening of Fantastic 4 3 AND swallowed his pimp juice all in the name of unbiased news reporting?...AintItCorporateNe wsAintItCorporateNewsAintItCor porateNewsAintItCorporateNewsA intItCorporateNews
Just finished watching.
by Cosmo Nautilus
Apr 1st, 2009
05:47:55 PM
Why did Gambit lose his accent in the end? How do they plan on making a Deadpool spin off when they killed him off? Why are Silver Fox and Emma Frost sisters? Why is Emma Frost so ugly? Where did teen Scott get ruby quartz lense glasses? I'm guessing Victor Creed and Sabertooth are two seperate characters in movie canon. I have a lot of gripes with this film. It genuinely upsets me.
Oh, and don't pirate movies.
by Cosmo Nautilus
Apr 1st, 2009
05:49:17 PM
It's against the fucking law.
If this movie was any good
by Dapper Swindler
Apr 1st, 2009
05:49:23 PM
They might want a few bootleg copies to get out and create buzz. But it ain't, so they aren't
Nice legal perspective on piracy
by CRanga
Apr 1st, 2009
05:51:37 PM
Check this out. Done by a Sydney University I think. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =is2KYGDp1Rs
A Very Elegant Written F Bomb: Outside Observation From Michigan
by lostinmyroom1981
Apr 1st, 2009
05:51:52 PM
I have been coming to this site for years. I have been a socially constructed labialised fan boy ever since my parents fell into the marketing scheme of the late 90s known as the return of Star Wars. Back then, my parents would buy me all those Kenner action figures with what money they could muster up, ever since I was hooked on the movie marketing machine. .. Oh how the internet really picked up in anticipation for the Star Wars prequel known as the Phantom Menace. It was a real innocent time, before the dark side consumed all, so to speak. I truth I am not sure how I found Aint It Cool News. But once I did I would come here almost every day and read what material they could dig up. Us fans wanted something so bad, we could taste it, and we the consumers needed to know what are dreams would be like. And as we eventually found out, our dreams never even materialized. Time went by, most of the population of this site had to go to college, break up with girlfriends, watch their parents grow older. The same people who ran the site had to do the same. As the internet has changed everything it now must be the same. There is no room for sharing, trading, or getting anything for free in the simulated world in which we now live. The internet it abstract, it is lucid, but like everything else in your feeble lives it is now officially owned. How ironic it truly is that this occurred on April fools day. While the Billionaires are fighting Pirate Bay in world court, Hulu is advertising on your TV set. Free programming for all, brought to you by NBC, ABC, FOX, and the Federal C C. I am not sure. I know Wolverine is only one shameless attempt and making money, much like Marvel itself. It’s a system of deceit, assimilation, and socialization. And while most suffer in this country because of credit card bills, medical bills, and starvation the corporations (S) morally suffocate us with their hypocrisy of dare I say, a juvenile plethora of bullshit. Were not children anymore, don’t let them talk to you like children. This site is over. It has officially been consumed by everything you hate. We have made them rich, fat, and allowed their terrible uneducated babble filter the very cyberspace ways that were free from such a physical tyranny. Much like face book, My Space, and Amazon ( most likely goggle) Aint It super Cool high five News is a marketing contraption for the brainwashing elite. Its over here… Move on if you are a fan… The people who run this site should be ashamed of themselves. Thank you for the years, there are many good people on these boards, much like there is throughout America. But this is a day when a new site should be started by fans who hold free speech as well their personal freedom the foremost priority in their short lives. First that letter from the home schooled writer of the Watchmen movie ( how did that blue tiger get formed by the way?) and now this “obey the man talk”. Its about time, put these morally condemning hypocritical assholes out of business. Do it for America. America fuck ya! Sincerely A middle class fan… …
Leaked info MADE this site.
by geekzapoppin
Apr 1st, 2009
05:52:54 PM
If AICN hadn't posted spy reports back in the day, it would have never become what it is today. Yup. They're sellouts, but they have been for a loooong while now. It's harder and harder to visit here without Moriarty's reviews and articles. The bad thing is, his new site sucks as well. Oh well.
Deadpool=Mimic Stryker=Mr. Sinister/Apocolypse
by Thanos0145
Apr 1st, 2009
05:54:57 PM
Just watch the trailers,you'll see the whole movie.15-20 minutes isn't going to help this film.The film feels like a cheap televison show.They butchered Deadpool.The poster with the characters looking down sums it up.I feel bad for Hugh Jackman though. Hey Rothman, you know what they say about Karma, F*** you!Don't insult the fans that care about these characters and would pay their hard earned money to see a quality film. Headgeek=Corporate suckup geek.I guess if this movie came out say 12 years ago like say Batman&Robin,then it would be "cool" to rip it.Joel Shumacher forgot to email Headgeek to kiss his butt for a positive word of mouth review.Let me guess,Harry's going to LOVE Wolverine:Origins.
I got something you might want..
by Aeghast
Apr 1st, 2009
06:01:03 PM
some Wolverine stuff I got from a ABC staffer's home computer
WOLVERINE didn't just LEAK
by COCKNASTY_BUTTSTANK
Apr 1st, 2009
06:02:24 PM
it LEAKED OUT OF SOMEONE'S FUCKIN' ASS.
Yes sir
by Rollofpennies
Apr 1st, 2009
06:02:40 PM
The thing about Terminator Salvation or Transformers 2 is that we would gladly pay to see those in theaters seeing as they are big movies that want to please fans. Wolverine however is controlled by the studio that doesnt care about making movies good. Which is what people are starting to understand. Wolverine can be just as big as any other blockbuster. However, for a summer release I really dont see anything visually stunning about this movie. The characters dont look entertaing or drastically different from each other in any way, plain looking sets, too much sun in a movie thats supposedly dark. No thanks FOX. After watching Street Fighter and Dragonball on the same night, Its clear you care shit about how your movies turn out. No other studio would treat these properties this way. Marvel, take us home baby.
Hahaha, Dragonball: Evolution
by Cosmo Nautilus
Apr 1st, 2009
06:06:17 PM
"Dragon Ball Energy? D.B.E.... catchy!" Oh, fuck Fox.
GhostDad
by the_shogun_gunslinger
Apr 1st, 2009
06:09:26 PM
EXACTLY! I remember coming to AIC every day when they launched because this was wear EVERYTHING leaked. Now its a corporate marketing tool in disguise. Notice how Harry and Beaks haven't said anything on the subject? Its because their corporate masters haven't given them permission to yet. That "update" was noting more than a muzzle.
seriously though merrick is semi retarded, right?
by drturing
Apr 1st, 2009
06:09:53 PM
i mean, seriously. he's the least functional "journalist" i've ever seen. tila tequila's myspace blog is more revelvant and thoughtful than his posts.
Yay for Fox! Oh wait. I hate Fox.
by The_Man_Behind_The_Curtain
Apr 1st, 2009
06:10:30 PM
Fuck you Fox.
LIke I said on Nikki Finke's site
by YackBacker
Apr 1st, 2009
06:14:22 PM
FOX needs to reexamine it's security protocols. If you think its safe to leave large piles of money on your front lawn for anyone to steal, don't be so shocked and appalled when someone actually takes advantage of the opportunity. That being said, piracy is dirty... and sexy- but wrong, like sex with farm animals.
Not a review for a movie that i did not download from piratesbay
by namasteandgoodluck
Apr 1st, 2009
06:17:15 PM
So I wouldn't know that it's a huge piece of shit. I wouldn't know that the story completely had nothing to do with Wolverine's origin, that the acting sucked....basically I wouldn't know to tell you not to go see this piece of shit. Oh yeah, I do know...Fox can eat a dick. Fox can eat all the dicks and just when Fox thinks that's all the dicks they can eat, wrong; they can eat MORE dick.
All I can promise is...dookie
by jambone
Apr 1st, 2009
06:17:53 PM
Beaks - "All I can promise is that we won't run a single review until the movie screens for press (be it junket or otherwise)." But we'll run a shitload of reviews for movies that are test screening (which were not for press), or post reviews for scripts (like Superman) that haven't been made. WTF!? This site was made on posting reviews from test screenings, what is the difference?
And double-fuck you Focks for Dragonball
by Darkknight37
Apr 1st, 2009
06:20:29 PM
Two examples right out of the gate in Dragonball and X-Men Origins: Wolverine's Tale as Told By The Gay Guy from the Oscars of how you do not care about the source material. Get any jackoff director to take something so sacred to others, and see if it can be pimped to the fullest. It's like George Lucas secretly seized your studios and starting spreading his failness onto as many properties as possible. Star Wars RIP Aliens RIP Predator RIP X-Men DOA Fantastic Four DOA Die Hard RIP Too bad you guys aren't run by General Motors.
TheLastCleric... tell it like it is!!!
by Sicuv Uyall
Apr 1st, 2009
06:20:39 PM
Just kidding. You're a douchebag!! You sound like an accountant for Fox who's pissing over the .0003% of revenues you're losing over pirated copies of Die Hard sold at the Swap Meet. You fuckin little worm! Obviously the only one who would be pissed at pirating is someone who thinks he's losing money from all this, someone in the industry. So you're not getting paid enough? Well, think about the working class joe who had to shell out $50 to take his kids to watch Star Wars I, II, or III just to make them happy and realize he wasted $150 he could have spent on clothes or food for them, instead of taking them to watch $100 million cartoons made to rob moviegoers of their hard-earned money. You FUCK!! You're no better than those RIAA assholes who want to sue every single person who downloaded a 10 year old song on the internet and send them to jail, all for losing a microscopic piece of profit to pay for the flooring in your Malibu beach house. I shit on you, you greedy bastards! You guys and losing shit, while making us pay more to watch your movies, hoping... just hoping... that we didn't just waste $10 to watch some overhyped piece of shit... which is what you put out there 75% of the time. So shut the fuck up and post Wolverine back online so I can watch this potential crapfest for free... and maybe, if it is halfway decent, and not as shitty as these people say, I'll take my friends and watch it in the theater as well as recommend it to others.... But probably not.
Again
by enderandrew
Apr 1st, 2009
06:23:20 PM
All you were doing is adding publicity, so more people were sharing it via torrents.
Remember when FOX wasn't a fucking joke?
by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS
Apr 1st, 2009
06:23:47 PM
Remember the days when FOX was actually a legitimate studio that didn't take properties with a built-in fanbase they could manipulate and turn them to shit? This was the studio that brought us Star Wars for fuck sake.

And look at them now. What a joke. It seems a crime that good people are losing their jobs in other professions whilst the jokers at the top of the FOX foodchain keep fucking us over again and again.

TOM ROTHMAN .... KISS MY GRITS!!!!!!
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 1st, 2009
06:24:38 PM
It's tayback time!!!
shogun
by GhostDad
Apr 1st, 2009
06:24:48 PM
A lot of the problem is too that in the old days, all of this information came from low level, unessential production personnel, whether it was PAs, writer's assistants, assistant editors, etc. The problem is now sites like AICN have direct contact to the hire ups, that the low level folks wouldn't dare leak stuff (unless told to, which happens a lot), in fear of losing their jobs. I haven't heard of Harry doing this, but I know for a fact that Devon from CHUD has gotten many PAs fired by calling producers and giving up his source in exchange for confirming a rumor. Why should they care about protecting a low level source when the info will be "leaked" to them by the marketing department or the producers themselves? That's lead to the studios having essentially full contol over what info gets out there. Hell, most marketing companies have their own talkback "personality" and a team of people posting positive reviews and comments on multiple sites. Nobody is gonna risk their jobs to leak information anymore. I don't condone piracy at all, as I've worked in the industry since before AICN existed, but something about the righteous indignation of this article just doesn't sit right with me.
Also
by GhostDad
Apr 1st, 2009
06:27:56 PM
I think reviewing the first draft of a script does far more damage than leaked workprints, especially ones with unfinished effects.
YEAH, REVENGE OF THE SITH WAS LEAKED EARLY
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 1st, 2009
06:28:53 PM
I saw a PRISTINE copy - PUH RIS TINE - long before the fanboys started camping outside the Ziegfeld.

Wolverine? I wouldn't waste bandwidth on.

psylocke?
by stupidmop
Apr 1st, 2009
06:30:55 PM
noticed in the credits that someone played psylocke? I didnt notice the hottest super hero ever? Oh and i thought the movie was great, cant wait to see it in the theatres since i didnt download it and watched it in an undisclosed hotel room. With finished effects and some major tweaking to the ending it will be the best xmen movie yet. Oh and was anyone else surprised that wil I am can actuallly act?
stupidmop
by CRanga
Apr 1st, 2009
06:32:58 PM
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
So I just saw this on CNN
by Tommy999
Apr 1st, 2009
06:36:12 PM
There was this guy bragging and talking about seeing the workprint. Which was stolen, so an illegal copy of the movie, unfinished and missing some special effects and scoring. oh wait.. wait.. no that was back in 2002 and that guy was Harry and the movie was Attack of The Clones.
Wolverine-Review!
by laraz
Apr 1st, 2009
06:36:43 PM
www.myspace.com/martinjunior84 . If you want a review off it becaus AICN doesnt have the balls to, check out my page and add me if you like what you read. By the way just because a film hits the internet a month a day or a week early, doesnt mean it still wont make its $$. If good word of mouth comes from the leak the studio makes its money back! Hell i saw the dark knight two week early before it was released! It became the 2nd picture of all time in america! So stop being spoiled, condone illegal activity, but not for profit!
I miss the old AICN...
by namasteandgoodluck
Apr 1st, 2009
06:39:14 PM
...before Harry and the gang started sucking, slurping and swallowing the movie industries cock AND balls. Before you start complaining about how piracy is killing an embattled industry, maybe you should acknowledge the fact that poor quality, overpaid execs, bad deals and outsourcing have more to do with the state of the industry than a shitty download of a shitty workprint that will just turn out to be a shitty film when it's finished anyway. Do any of you have any integrity anymore? You gays are starting to sound more like paid off movie critics...oh sorry, I meant guys. Fags.
Van Wilder and Merry.
by Swoomustdie
Apr 1st, 2009
06:40:59 PM
I wonder how much they got paid, seeing as they both end up with about a dozen lines of combined dialogue and three minutes of combined screentime. And goddamn Fox, I wanted a real Deadpool movie with Reynolds starring. What the everliving fuck was that monstrosity at the end? The Mute With A Mouth? Oh fuck you FOX, I'm glad I didn't pay a CENT for that TRASH.
Fox=Cannon Films
by MetalMickey
Apr 1st, 2009
06:41:18 PM
The end.
Oh another thing
by Tommy999
Apr 1st, 2009
06:47:20 PM
While I was trying to find a clip of Harry on CNN talking about AOTC I found this old interview... times sure have changed. Ebert sums it up perfectly at the end I feel http://tinyurl.com/d8afqp
A Few Things...
by mrbeaks
Apr 1st, 2009
06:49:00 PM
I've been extremely busy today, and I have to run out in a couple of minutes. Still, I want to address some of your concerns/criticisms/opprobrium .

1) This workprint was not meant to be screened. So it's *slightly* different from a test screening. Now, is a test screening meant to be reviewed? No - and that's part of the gray area I mentioned in the above article. That said, when a film tests, that means the filmmakers are comfortable enough with the film to solicit feedback from a recruited, non-pro audience (and AICN's been doing this long enough that most people reading the site understand this). Again, not the case w/ the WOLVERINE workprint.

2) I probably could've worded the banning idea better. Basically, it was just an initial idea I had, and one I quickly abandoned because I knew it was unworkable. I also knew I was overreaching. But I really didn't want this talkback to become ground zero for reviews of the workprint - which I'm happy to say it hasn't. It's mostly become a "Bash Beaks" fest. And I'm honestly fine with that.

3) It's odd to find myself in the position of defending Fox, but I'm 100% anti-piracy regardless of the studio. I've never been into file sharing or anything of that nature (from Napster onward). I prefer to pay for my movies and my music.

But while I sympathize with Fox's plight, I still think Tom Rothman is a micromanaging doofus who's compromised a number of potentially great films (see KINGDOM OF HEAVEN). And yet the man got MASTER & COMMANDER made. It was a passion project for him. So he's not all bad.

4) I try to provide perspective when I run script reviews. I never give away third act twists and only condemn a screenplay when it is flawed on a conceptual level. (See my SEVEN SAMURAI remake review at CHUD.) If we started running WOLVERINE reviews, experience tells me that a majority of the write-ups would be pure vitriol. And since this movie is missing upwards of fifteen minutes (or so I've been told), it's probably a little early to throw it in the stocks.

Perhaps you disagree. Maybe you've got all the ammo you need from the workprint. I can't stop you from discussing it (and that's why I've only deleted one talkback, which was a direct link to one of the file-sharing sites). But I'm not going to pass judgment until we've got a screenable cut.
Yeah yeah fox,please,do prosecute them
by ominus
Apr 1st, 2009
06:51:01 PM
to the full extent.and force the FBI and the american justice system to hunt and hung those criminals in the most severe way.

this world will be a better place without movie pirates,even if killers,rapists,drug dealers,terrorists,sex slavers,etc are still out there.

not having mr rothman the money to get one more private jet plane,is a very serious crime than killing.go get them fbi.

Extremely silly to not post reviews. Does that ever happen?
by happybunni
Apr 1st, 2009
06:52:08 PM
Normally when you receive a review of an unfinished movie, there's a disclaimer. The reviews should be posted with disclaimers, same as they would be in any other case. Studios own AICN.
Thanks Beaks
by breathwillowmist
Apr 1st, 2009
06:54:46 PM
in all honesty what he just said clears up alot for me. Now all I want is Harry to say why hes being hypocritical when he himself has posted reviews about stolen pirated copies.
to add
by breathwillowmist
Apr 1st, 2009
06:55:12 PM
said pirated movie was weeks in advance as well (star wars)
I don't download yet this mirrors the war on drugs.
by hallmitchell
Apr 1st, 2009
06:55:33 PM
You can't win. There will always be film pirates. Most people uploading don't make a cent of it anyway. If someone wants to watch a blockbuster film on a seventeen inch screen on a creaky chair. Let them. Yet why can't films be available for download on a films release? Everyone knows it's the future. So why not bring it forward.
cranga
by stupidmop
Apr 1st, 2009
06:55:57 PM
wasnt being sarcastic i really enjoyed the movie, as an avid x-men fan growing up of course it had its problems but what super hero movie doesnt, is just as good as the first two
MetalMickey
by thesinofthesky
Apr 1st, 2009
06:56:01 PM
Dude- Cannon Films made some entertaining shit back in the day. I'm not saying their films were the greatest thing ever, but when you're feeling down in the dumps and need some cheesy 80's action, "Delta Force" and others like it are the way to go. Oh yeah- Harry and Beaks are a couple of fucking cunts. And Harry is a Maoist cunt to boot.
Thanks everyone
by WhySoSerious
Apr 1st, 2009
06:56:12 PM
thank you AICN for bringing this to my attention. if it wasn't for you reporting about the leak, i wouldn't have known about it. off to pirate bay now.....
This movie is a joke, so how fitting for it to leak today.
by polyh3dron
Apr 1st, 2009
06:56:44 PM
Revenge is sweet. Fuck you Fox.
For those that saw it...
by Darkplanet
Apr 1st, 2009
06:58:10 PM
I'm just guessing here but a vast majority who viewed the workprint probably stopped watching a 1/4 through. Not because it was bad but because it had potential to be good(or at least rentable). I don't think Fox has too much to worry about with the leak but it will be an interesting experiment. And yeah, they SHOULD throw whoever leaked it in jail. I mean that's just some really lowball shit to be doing to any production.
Keep this in perspective.
by Purgatori
Apr 1st, 2009
06:58:33 PM
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0 ,,219185,00.html ''We don't know how he could have seen it,'' insists a Lucasfilm rep, who declined to comment on plot points or the apparent leak.
My opinion on the film really is
by Tommy999
Apr 1st, 2009
06:59:24 PM
It needs more editing, the Escape from Alkali Lake needs to be more brutal it looked to me like almost no one died.. and hey maybe that's in the reshoot footage. In what I saw there's a good movie, is there bad acting, yes.. but you'll get that from most of your summer blockbusters. So I know I'll be seeing it again in theatres and I look forward to going back to and the workprint and comparing what I saw, and discussing the choices made between the final cut and the work print we saw
Worse criminals
by enderandrew
Apr 1st, 2009
06:59:51 PM
That is actually a pretty weak defense. We shouldn't enforce the law so long as there are worse criminals out there? They attempt to prosecute all criminals they can catch. Sentences are worse for worse crimes. And piracy does affect industries. Almost every single PC game company I enjoyed as a kid went belly-up, all citing piracy, or migrated completely to consoles, because it is harder to pirate on consoles. It is amazing that all the CRPG buffs I know played Planescape: Torment, but the company that made it no longer exists because I don't know anyone who bought it. When you don't pay for products, you are not voting with your wallet, and you don't get a right to bitch. The same idiots in these talkbacks who were trashing Watchmen and saying they'd boycott it are upset that movies like this are made. Sadly, this movie will probably make twice watch Watchmen did, and prompt sequels. What you need to do is financially support the movies that get it right (or at least mostly get it right like Watchmen) or don't bitch when those movies cease to exist.
Good Editing and Good Pacing
by enderandrew
Apr 1st, 2009
07:01:44 PM
Check out the first 2/3rds of X2, which are extremely efficient in their storytelling.
Beaks!!!!
by medicinaluser
Apr 1st, 2009
07:06:35 PM
"It's mostly become a "Bash Beaks" fest. And I'm honestly fine with that."

So your saying its ok to bash you, hmmm well ok let me see even without your fucking permission we would be doing that anyway.

We dont need you to stroll along making a quick post before you *have* to run out telling us its ok to bash you..... OK.

Now can those who have watched it post FULL reviews in this TB with spoilers and feel free to mention it was AICN's attempt to get us all to boycott this POS film in the first place over the Watchmen debacle that led you to download it.
enderandrew
by ominus
Apr 1st, 2009
07:10:22 PM
do u know that in the fbi's priority list for fighting crime,that their second priority,after terrorism,is movie/music/software piracy?

nobody said that the pirates,WHO SELL the stolen artwork,and not those who share it freely,shouldnt be prosecuted.ofc they must go to jail.

but i ask you,you as an american tax payer,what are the priorities you want the fbi to have in the war against crime?

do u want the fbi to spend its resources,money and people,in order to catch first a movie pirate or do u want to go first and catch a serial rapist,killer,drug dealer,sex slaver etc?

think about it.

It's just a movie.
by hitchcockhill
Apr 1st, 2009
07:14:35 PM
Although it is a first of its kind to be pirated so early - it is after all - just a movie. Of course people put in countless hours to create the film. You run a site about movies - and you're talking about squelching people's ability to talk about what they have seen? If people don't want to read spoilers they won't show up. The movie industry is somewhat at fault for the piracy that happens. I can't believe they even do awards screeners anymore. Just have the lazy voters go to a theater where they can see the movie for free. Of course this is an inside job - but come on guys - this is a movie - not rocket science.
ominus
by enderandrew
Apr 1st, 2009
07:15:38 PM
The FBI is concerned with federal crimes. And the United States has a horrid trade deficit because the world doesn't buy our products. The one thing the US excels in producing is intellectual property, which few people seem to pay for, especially outside the country. You can literally buy pirated DVDs, games, etc. on store shelves in Asia. If the rest of the world were paying the actual creators of these products, even at significantly reduced prices, the US economy would be MUCH better off. So yes, I want the FBI to make an effort to curtail piracy because intellectual property is crucial to the economic future of the country.
right on nahdogg
by bobbofatz
Apr 1st, 2009
07:16:48 PM
Preach it! California, one of the biggest economies in the world is crumbling. Run into the ground by overtaxing, over regulation and big unions. Get rid of unions and the politicians that back them. The companies will again flourish including Hollywood.
Fake article or no?
by Dazzler69
Apr 1st, 2009
07:16:59 PM
I am confused if this is a fake article for April's fools day or a real story.
Ok Fox, now we're even.
by Vesuvio
Apr 1st, 2009
07:18:20 PM
You fucked me up with X-men III, I'll contribute to fuck YOU up on X-men origins.
May1st
by stuntdriver
Apr 1st, 2009
07:18:33 PM
I will be there. Not even being able to see it a month early would stop me.
stupidmop
by CRanga
Apr 1st, 2009
07:19:27 PM
My mistake. I just assumed because I didn't like it and could only stomach the first 20 minutes, that everyone else felt the same way. I'm assuming that for the most part it's the same as the script which is floating around. God that script was fucking awful.
PIracy doesn't kill movies...
by Wolfrankula
Apr 1st, 2009
07:20:29 PM
People do.
Also like the war on drugs you can't just give up...
by Darth_Inedible
Apr 1st, 2009
07:21:07 PM
...because you "can't win". When you give up you end up like China where the only films that get made are prestige pics funded almost exclusively by the State and a non-existent software industry. Anyway what I love is how all the "hardass pirate" types in these talkbacks read like child molesters in training.
Remember when this site was about Guerrilla tactics
by Phategod2
Apr 1st, 2009
07:23:06 PM
Now it's about Cowtowing to Hollywood and Comprimising Harry you got to start saying Fcuk the establishment if it cost you a interview so be it How much is you credibility worth.
Harry's credibility
by CRanga
Apr 1st, 2009
07:26:53 PM
I think his credibility is worth the admittance of one. About $11 sounds right.
enderandrew u ignore something
by ominus
Apr 1st, 2009
07:28:24 PM
yes the usa economy would have been better,but the ratio poor/rich would have been decreased?

ofc not.because as ,always,the majority of the pie,aka money,goes to the rich guys,those who control the economy and own the capitals.

do u know that the golden boys of your bank system,get bonuses while everyday more and more american citizens lose their jobs? why do think mr obama turned agaisnt these bank execs and demanded control of their doings?

a better economy is just numbers and statistics,but at the end of the day,the difference is the guy who owns a ferrari and the guy who hasnt money to eat.

enderandrew listen one more funny thing
by ominus
Apr 1st, 2009
07:36:11 PM
a good example of the reality of this world.

the ford and general motors owners,visited mr obama in order to ask his goverment,to help the american automotor industry,now that there is a world wide economy crisis.

people who work in this industry will lose their jobs etc etc.

they aske from mr obama to lend them money in order to strengthen the car industry.several million dollars i think.

whats the funny thing? they travelled to meet mr obama,the usa president,with their super luxe private air jets.u gotta love the irony of it,right?

Ominus
by medicinaluser
Apr 1st, 2009
07:38:37 PM
Yeh the American economy is in the tank but your still a few years away from being like say Brazil with a wealthy elite and then an extreme poor not a middleclass in sight.

My better half wants to adopt from some poor country and was thinking the Eastern bloc but if things get really bad over the pond we might have to rescue a colonial child and bring him/her back to the free world.
Check it out!
by ghostofrorschach
Apr 1st, 2009
07:38:56 PM
They have 2 reviews of Wolverine posted at www.mymavra.com. That's the website all the Ain't It Cool News talkbackers started. Now that I know it's that cool and it's not even finished, I can't wait to see this movie in the theater.
So, Wolverine has two holes in his forehead??
by fanboy71
Apr 1st, 2009
07:40:54 PM
Good thing that cop's bullet in X2 didn't get through one of those holes. He'd have woken up and benn like "Shit, who am I? I hate when this happens!! Guess I gotta go to Japan and whine awhile." UTTER SHIT!
Piracy is not that bad
by Nabster
Apr 1st, 2009
07:43:18 PM
its an exageration how much money it causes a movie to lose. Wolverines a homo anyway.
Hell Yes!
by TedKordLives
Apr 1st, 2009
07:45:12 PM
Great news. Too bad I won't be able to pirate this POS. Bacci40, can you give me the address of the 7-11 where you'll be handing out copies?
BTW The Hong Kong flim industry
by Nabster
Apr 1st, 2009
07:46:07 PM
is in the toilet. Read a newspaper.
all you who think you're badass by downloading...
by dagwood
Apr 1st, 2009
07:46:11 PM
...fail to see how this hurts movies. I'm not captain do-gooder by any means, but those who have downloaded it (and gloated about it here) are not helping movies get made. What do I care, you ask (no doubt posting some ridiculously witty and sarcastic comment)? And your justifications for getting back at fox are absurd...do any of those posters get out of their parent's basement? Contribute anything to the movie business other than being trolls? Doubt it.
The only way to live in this world is without rules...
by Nicodemus07
Apr 1st, 2009
07:49:29 PM
...according to the talkbackers at aintitcool.com Because if you don't totally condone the illegal process of bootlegging, then you're not 'with it', and enjoy all manner of homoerotic intercourse with the proverbial 'man'! Get off you're high horses people, and do it NOW. You're embarrassing yourselves and the demeaning the very art form you claim to love so much.
Harold WANTS your reviews.
by Sal_Bando
Apr 1st, 2009
07:50:03 PM
But only after the first.
i saved 10e by not going to
by ominus
Apr 1st, 2009
07:54:44 PM
watch the film at a cinema,when its officially released,because i watched the pirated release,and yes the movies sucks badly.

does that make me a stupid person for saving my money,or a bad guy who hurts the film industry?

hmmmm

Rothman.
by InfiniteRegress
Apr 1st, 2009
08:01:24 PM
I just had a look at Tom Rothman's bio on Wikipedia and found out he's married to Jessica Harper. Now I hate that fucker even more.
Remember when this site had balls?
by Kampy0jay
Apr 1st, 2009
08:08:03 PM
If i download a movie, and it's great, or even just good, i will pay to go see it. This is the same for most people i know using torrents and file sharing. DONT MAKE BAD MOVIES and it wont even be an issue. Piracy will never be stopped, and with the economy going down hill, people cant afford to pay to see shitty movies anymore. Personally, i loved Wolverine and def will pay to see it next month, wish i had the chance every year to preview the summer blockbusters, toned down without effects and such. If the studies were proud of their movie, and embraced the age of the internet...they would make it available, i'd pay an Itunes type fee to preview an unfinished movie.
Dagwood....
by InfiniteRegress
Apr 1st, 2009
08:09:36 PM
Piracy does hurt the film industry, but you know what hurts it more? Shitty Summer blockbusters with no soul, cynically put together by money men who no feel for the art or craft of cinema. These douchebags, and Rothman is merely a turd sitting atop a very large mound of shit, have no respect for the audience OR films in general. The X-Men series was once a pretty solid franchise but, just like many before it, the commerce has taken precedent over the art and the executives are happy to squander the goodwill of the audience. Wolverine is clearly a bad film, no matter how many flashy effects will be in the final film. Sure, I would have paid to see the thing and now I've saved my money. If it had been decent, or even half decent, I would have happily forked over cash to see it again on the big screen. Now I don't need to do that and I can use that money to go see something else. That's not hurting the film industry, that's hurting the box office of a shitty film and contributing to the takings of a, potentially, better one.
There is no rationale defense of piracy, its just cheap assholes
by dr sauch
Apr 1st, 2009
08:12:58 PM
Whether you think art should be free or not, if its not your art, and so you don't get to decide whether its free. If someone else makes something, and says you can't have it, and you take it, that's stealing. You can rage on all you want about the corrupt and predatory entertainment industry, but the fact of the matter is, unless you made it, you can't have it for free.
Nicodemus07
by CRanga
Apr 1st, 2009
08:19:27 PM
Wolverine and art form don't even belong in the same sentence. And your comment about piracy and being "with it" is a little short sighted. I constantly download stuff but am not deluded enough to think that my actions aren't illegal, nor do I think I'm any better than someone who doesn't download material. I know my actions are illegal but I choose to do it anyway.
Dr Sauch.
by InfiniteRegress
Apr 1st, 2009
08:20:05 PM
I don't think art should be free, if the artist wants remuneration for their work. However, I wasted two hours of my life watching Wolverine this morning as you can rest assured: It's about as far from being 'art' as is humanly possible.
I"ll probably go see it at a really CHEAP matinee.
by OBESE_WAN_KENOBI
Apr 1st, 2009
08:20:41 PM
But I hope they clean it up in a month. I just skimmed over it, not really watching much. But the finale was god awful. A showdown with Deadpool should've been kind of cool, but was ridiculous. I hope that's the area that's getting some major re shoots.
See, CRanga is honest, and I can respect that
by dr sauch
Apr 1st, 2009
08:21:16 PM
If you admit that you just want free shit, that's cool. I want free shit as well. And I don't necessarily respect the artistic merit of fucking "wolverene," and its not like i'm taking money from starving artists if i download it, but to say that there is some meritorious reason to steal shit is absurd.
InfiniteRegress, I totally agree. Wolverene is prob. a shitty m
by dr sauch
Apr 1st, 2009
08:22:27 PM
But that doesn't mean its okay to steal it. It's no less of a crime to steal a Honda Civic than a Ferrari.
What about that person that was NEVER gonna pay to watch this?
by DarfurOnTheRocks
Apr 1st, 2009
08:22:39 PM
....I am just wondering how much a DL hurts a film that a person would not even spend a rental on?
Copyright and stealing
by CRanga
Apr 1st, 2009
08:24:01 PM
Just for clarification, copyright infringement is not the same as stealing. Copyright is a chose in action. It's intangible property. To equate copyright infringement to stealing is theoretically and legally incorrect.
Those BluRay Rips off Rapidshare are sooooooo enticing....
by DarfurOnTheRocks
Apr 1st, 2009
08:25:26 PM
DarfurOnTheRocks
by CRanga
Apr 1st, 2009
08:27:57 PM
I guess in that case, downloading would have the effect of whatever your opinion on the product was. The effect would be through either positive or negative comments to others.
This Leak Is A Publicity Stunt By Fox
by Media Messiah
Apr 1st, 2009
08:28:22 PM
They are just looking to create some buzz on the street for this movie among the press and the public. I'd bet everything on it that Fox leaked it themselves!
Piracy is OUR Economic Stimulus Package
by DarfurOnTheRocks
Apr 1st, 2009
08:28:35 PM
The fuckers at Wall Street and Detroit are getting rewarded for mismanagement and outright thief.... Who cares if some one downloads a movie?
Some cannot afford to watch 15 movies on Summer Blockbuster Seas
by DarfurOnTheRocks
Apr 1st, 2009
08:31:58 PM
Tickets are expensive.... And I am not talking popcorn... Maybe an individual would pay to watch 5 top summer flicks and then DL the rest.... I don't know... I am not saying it is right.... But this is what happens. No one can contest that the cinema experience is superior. But damn it is getting expensive.
Piracy doesn't hurt attendance - shit movies do
by theghostofdonsimpson
Apr 1st, 2009
08:38:06 PM
I download movies. I especially like workprints, I like the look behind the scenes of the process. I also spend about £1000 a year on cinema tickets, the same again on DVDs, scores and published screenplays, so fuck anyone who says I'm hurting the industry. At the end of every calendar year every award-tipped film is hugely widely available in perfect DVD clarity, ripped from Awards screeners, weeks or months before they hit the cinemas, and they still deliver box office bank. This last winter you could download Slumdog, Gran Torino, Milk, The Wrestler, Benjamin Button, The Reader, Revolutionary Road and a load of others before any of them hit a cinema. Did it cause them all to flop? Did it fuck. What cause flops is bad reviews and bad word of mouth, both of which this piece of shit will receive if there is any justice in the world - I'm not going to review it here, but suffice it to say... Christ. Just... Christ. I want to weep for what the creators of Deadpool must be going through right now. Anyway, the alarmist rantings of the anti-privacy moral high horse brigade are just as flawed as the wannabe-anarchist, fuck money, everything should be free piracy supporters. The cinemas are full and yet the files are being downloaded over and over - the two things are barely related. Everyone needs to just calm the fuck down.
Meh....
by mazzy2u
Apr 1st, 2009
08:43:02 PM
The fact that some of the effects are finished, I reckon that when it was being delivered to another effects house, the courier took a detour to his/her PC and made a quick copy... I still wouldn't have gone to the cinema to see it anyway...
theghostofdonsimpson
by CRanga
Apr 1st, 2009
08:43:54 PM
Well said. At last, an intelligent response. I'm of the exact same opinion.
OMG, Ryan Reynolds rocks as Deadpool!
by ganymede3010
Apr 1st, 2009
08:50:35 PM
Well, the first 20 minutes is great as everyone has conceded. I'm still watching it so I we'll see how the rest turns out. I'll definitely pay to see this movie to support super hero movie cause.
"Pirates! Yarrrr!" or The Fox Excuse
by Sithtastic
Apr 1st, 2009
08:54:55 PM
Guys, shotgun slinger has basically said everything I wanted to say in relation to supply/demand and how films are consumed, supported and ultimately how franchises survive or perish. Whereas I have an almost sadomasochist affinity for Marvel screen translations, I will see Woverine, though I can't help but think that film will fail, regardless of how the geek community sees it. Best guess says there can be only two outcomes for the film: It opens big and the casual Wolverine fans, along with random action junkies give Wolverine a modest opening, after which word of mouth will all but sink it thereafter or (more likely) Wolverine may very well mark the one time I saw a fan community's outright revolt against one suit (Tom Rothman) actually slaughter a film's chance right out of the gate. And Fox? Oh well, you know what they'll say. "It was pirates I tell you! They killed our film!"...watch their board buy that too.
Try before you buy
by Locutus_Jones
Apr 1st, 2009
08:59:18 PM
If I order a meal that sucks, I get my money back. Until we get something like that for movies, this is the best way to protect yourself. Prophylactic Piracy
How do steal a damn Movie
by Phategod2
Apr 1st, 2009
09:04:30 PM
Its copyright infringement Not stealing your taking anything away and trust me your still spending your time watching it and there no refund on time of life you'll waste.
I fucking hope...
by PypeBomb
Apr 1st, 2009
09:10:08 PM
...an AIDS infested child molester jacks off in the cereal bowls of the kids belonging to the director and production crew of this movie.
CRanga
by Nicodemus07
Apr 1st, 2009
09:10:57 PM
I know you're probably going to say it's a cliche, but you really ARE taking money from starving artists when you download it. Every 'assistant' whose job it was to get coffee for the big dogs who has aspirations to be a filmmaker is a starving artist you're taking money from. And another thing: Art is Art. Wether you agree with that or like it or not. The writer of this movie wrote something that he believed in. Gavin Hood did everything in his power to make this a respectable film. Heck, every production designer, costumer, and storyboard artist made ART that deserves to be respected. Just because every genre movie isn't Citizen Kane doesn't give you the right to decry it's very existence.
I don't like Tom Rothman but I won't steal his movie
by D.Vader
Apr 1st, 2009
09:16:34 PM
I'll pay for it when I want to see it.
censorship is bad
by BBSloth
Apr 1st, 2009
09:16:41 PM
grow some balls AICN
look at fox trying go all csi
by crazybubba
Apr 1st, 2009
09:19:50 PM
aicn and fox working together to stop piracy
by crazybubba
Apr 1st, 2009
09:21:10 PM
they go together like peanut butter and chocolate
whineybitch intellectual property made America...
by Darth_Inedible
Apr 1st, 2009
09:22:51 PM
I'll point you towards China's flourishing software and film industry... Oh. Or how about every other country's pharmaceutical industry that either steals or licenses our stuff. Yea, what a horrible plague on humanity the concept of intellectual property is.
pirating
by Magnethead
Apr 1st, 2009
09:24:26 PM
If I see it, I'll pay to do it.
Butchered Deadpool=nipples on the batsuit
by Thanos0145
Apr 1st, 2009
09:25:03 PM
Reality Check:Movie Companies make more money on DVD sales than on the theatrical runs of their movies.Watchmen is going to make Warner Bros. more money on the DVD sales.F*** you Rothman.
Nicodemus07
by CRanga
Apr 1st, 2009
09:26:09 PM
Watching a copy of Wolverine in no way takes money from an assisant who worked on it. The assisant has been paid for their employment, and they no longer have any financial link to the film. It's questionable if it even takes money away from the studio considering I had no intention of going to the theater to see it. You're right that "Art is Art", it was merely my poor attempt at humour when I said that Wolverine and art form don't belong in the same sentence. Artistic merit is of course no basis for awarding copyright. I wasn't decrying the existence of Wolverine, I was just saying that I thought it was terrible. I'm not saying the world would be better off if it never existed, but it would certainly be better off if the film was better than it is.
I don't care
by My best friend
Apr 1st, 2009
09:32:47 PM
if this movie sucks or not; I still have the original graphic novel and the complete mini series that I bought when I was 7. Wolvie was a lot cooler before Hugh Jackman
I just streamed it online
by thedirtystache
Apr 1st, 2009
09:38:34 PM
CGI, new footage, and a new score will not save this movie. Is it really that hard to take a graphic novel and flesh it out a little more. The changes to deadpool were horrible, let alone the horse crap that is the story.
Fox/Rothman:"We're the BEST there is at what.....
by Thanos0145
Apr 1st, 2009
09:41:08 PM
we do,and what we do is make shitty movies."
Serves Fox right...
by phit_demon
Apr 1st, 2009
09:46:13 PM
...for trying to fuck with Watchmen. Karma's a sexy bitch sometimes.
Now Fox has an excuse for impending fail-ness
by Joker Gordon Levitt
Apr 1st, 2009
09:49:28 PM
"Oh, it performed poorly because it was leaked." In someone's coked-up world, that was a smart call.

I really wanted this movie to be great, what a disappointment. I mean c'mon, Liev Schrieber is a great actor. Paired with ackman, they should be tearing the screen apart, not squinting at each other in a coquettish fashion. Bring on Fantastic Four 3: Tokyo Drift. I don't give a flying fuck about Fox projects no more. I'll cut you, Fox.
cut you deep...
by Joker Gordon Levitt
Apr 1st, 2009
09:50:11 PM
not a prank
by quentintarantado
Apr 1st, 2009
09:56:49 PM
Checked you-know-where and yes, there it is available for download. The pirates who did this timed it exquisitely because those who will report this happened will be suspected of playing a prank.
A response to the empty rhetoric of the nobility police
by IndustryKiller!
Apr 1st, 2009
09:57:56 PM
what kind of bullshit is this preaching anyway? "Whaaaahhhh People could lose their livelihoods whaaaaahhhh!!!!!" Bullshit. Everyone who worked on this film is already getting paid. It's not like they are gonna shut down what little pre-production (which is probably none) that they have left and screw these VFX guys out of their money. Or they'll ask the marketing team to return their paychecks. The ONLY people who stands to lose from this directly are big shot producers and actors taking money of the back end. And you know what, straight up, fuck 'em. I'm tired of this hollywood blockbuster pap that hits the streets every summer and is barely watchable garbage that easily entertained automatons lap up like mother milk regardless of the quality. And I'm even more tired of them doing it to films that utilize characters I have an affection for. I don't want this film to succeed. I didn't before the leak, I don't want it to after, and that is a PERFECTLY REASONABLE stance to take.

"WHAAHHHH If it fails it should fail on merit of it's quality not piracy WHAHHH!!!!" Nope, fuck you. The studios have made some kind of idiot faustian pact with the American public wherein if the film costs above 100 million and stars a comic book character the public MUST turn out in droves. It's a literally no fail situation for the studio. Well I want that to change, and if it changes, just this ONE time, then good. It couldn't have happened to a more deserving film. If the movie does poorly then maybe we get less X3's and more Irons Man/Dark Knight. If it succeeds we get more crap. There is no fucking way this isn't a good thing and aside from arbitrary moral standards no one has argued otherwise.

"But WHHAHHH all these people worked so hard WHAHHH!!!" Yes they did, but what stands out int he context of time is the quality of the work, not the god damn box office. That is just one tiny part of a films life. Those people still have every ounce of the work they put into it, it's all up there on screen. NOTHING was robbed from them so stop saying otherwise. Oh God forbid they get to see it for free. Well if it's art, and they already got payed, they shouldn't care. The point is people WILL see it, in some form. This isn't some little indie flick that could, it's a massive summer blockbuster, so no one is getting robbed of their recognition.

"WHHHAAHHH the lack of revenue is bad for the film industry WHHAHHHH" Yeah, but what if hte industry doesn't deserve that revenue? So now every film should do well on merit of a bad economy? Horseshit. Just like the downturn will force Ford to stop making shitty cars, some studios should be FORCED to make better pictures, and hot damn if Fox ain't the grandaddy of 'em all. They have it coming all the way around. Besides they WILL make big money on this film. The amount it will dent the box office will be negligible, unless bad word of mouth spread, in which case good riddance. But DVD and toy revenues will more than make up for it. Fox is going to turn a profit no matter what. So just sit back and have a coke and a smile and be happy that you saved some money.

"This is bad, bad, bad for the business."
by ebonic_plague
Apr 1st, 2009
10:02:43 PM
GOOD. Anything I can do to help the existing studio system fail, I'll do it. People will still make movies, even if Hollywood is reduced to a smoking crater in the Earth... the only difference is, they might actually be movies worth watching, rather than just test marketed tentpole brand name cash-grabs. Thanks for the tip, Beaks, I'll help seed this.
blah blah blah
by anakinsoyo
Apr 1st, 2009
10:08:44 PM
You should all be good citizens . Watch the trailers belive all the hype this film is really good ! Go out and buy the fast food meals and all the action figures this movie is good . Go to the cinema and watch even more adverts after paying for over priced junk food then watch this and convice yourself its good it really is good . And then pay full price for a film on dvd you have already paid to see at the cinema which cost less than one percent of what it sells for . This movie is good . Do not downlown this film or even attempt to watch it for free . Mr hollywood will suffer he wont be able to buy his wife more fake tits or get himself a third house . Get your money out . We are free !
NO ONE is losing their jobs though WHiny
by IndustryKiller!
Apr 1st, 2009
10:08:58 PM
The films is wrapped, its all over. If the studio doesnt make money its because they made a bad film and then......well thats the industry. It's a comic book movie, none of these actors are gonna be judged in the films performance save for Jackman, and his star power is sealed. Any VFX guys that worked on this are gonna get other jobs just fine. Everyone else has already wrapped their time on the film and moved on. Casting, grips, lighting, gophers, they are all long on other projects. This film's performance as far as piracy is concerned isn't going to sink Fox in any way. That's all reactionary bullshit.
It's International Sales That Will Be Hurt...
by NoHubris
Apr 1st, 2009
10:11:39 PM
..by this.

An action/comic book movie like this expects big overseas ticket sales. Piracy will certainly hurt on that front.

i must add
by anakinsoyo
Apr 1st, 2009
10:12:25 PM
Battlestar Galactica came on tv and we didnt have to pay to watch it . I gladly paid for all the boxsets how lucky are we ? Support quality :) im not even gonna bother watching this wovlerine film because i dont have any money left i gave it all to george lucas and now im living in a box on the street :)

by dagwood
Apr 1st, 2009
10:18:05 PM
Make better movies and I'll stop illegally downloading them is an infantile argument if I've ever heard one. I am a filmmaker and can tell you that this, whether it's a small film, medium or large film, hurts.
Um...Deadpool, everyone : http://tinyurl.com/dewudr
by PTSDPete
Apr 1st, 2009
10:19:41 PM
It's true. It sucks.
anakinsoyo
by codymr
Apr 1st, 2009
10:20:00 PM
Well said my man.
CRanga
by Nicodemus07
Apr 1st, 2009
10:24:51 PM
Thank you for your well reasoned response. One correction: I know you weren't the one decrying the existence of Wolverine, but most every other 'pro-piracy' fellow on here was. That was what I was referring to.
Not supplying context is infantile Dagwood
by IndustryKiller!
Apr 1st, 2009
10:26:31 PM
Because that is what this is all about. It hurts sure, but it hurts with Wolverine for purely monetary reasons. No one who made this could possibly have thought they were making a great Wolverine film, and if they did then they are morons. With a small film reputations that arent already cemented in the Hollywood fabric are at stake, that is just flat out NOT the case here. This is a bad comic book film that people will come out to see if its good. and if its not good then it doesnt deserve it.
What amazes me...
by Continentalop
Apr 1st, 2009
10:34:04 PM
...is the amazing amount of hatred and venom directed at the film industry. Yes, Hollywood is not producing that great of product right now, but if you don't like it just don't see it. No one says who have to see movies, and no one said that having affordable entertainment is some kind of fundamental right. The way some people talk here is that you think it is in the Constitution that Hollywood should supply us with films for free.

As for myself, I walk the talk. I barely see any new Hollywood releases (have yet to see Watchmen or about a dozen other heavily promoted movies on AICN) because I doubt they will be any good. When I want to see a movie and nothing I want to see is playing, I go rent/buy an older one or else I go to the Egyptian, New Beverly or another revival house and see a classic.

As much as it pains me to say it.
by ganymede3010
Apr 1st, 2009
10:39:24 PM
This isn't a good movie overall. Hugh Jackman isn't the same Hugh Jackman that played Wolverine in X1 & X2. He's not into this character anymore, you can tell he's only in it for the paycheck. And this director is as a fucking hack. Gavin Hood another Tim Story, why does Fox and Sony continue to hire these hacks? What a sad day for comic book geeks. Oh well, I'm hoping the final version will address the plethora of problems plaugeing this film, worst of all, the acting is atrocious, and I blame that squarely on the hack ass director Gavin Shithood. What a travesty. This shit is 10 times worst then X3, this shit makes X3 look like X2. I'm so frigging pissed right now. Star Trek is going to obliterate this shit into the next star system.
DeadTermiClops...
by TedKordLives
Apr 1st, 2009
10:41:11 PM
sounds like-like-like-I really can't wrap my head around it. Why? WHY? WHY WOULD THEY DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? Guys, come on. Everyone, we are all, collectively, being jerked around for the amusement of...I don't know, Rothman or Satan or a group of suits who read these like I used to and roar with laughter. Since I've signed up a lot of shit has gone down, and I just can't be one of those douchey trolls (well, sometimes I can. What? It's fun!). But for real, fellow geeks, dorks, nerds and film buffs- we've got to help bring Fox down any way we can. This is just ridiculous. I think we might have to *gasp* work together on this one.
YOU GLUTTONOUS INGLORIOUS BASTERDS
by jedimast3r
Apr 1st, 2009
10:41:43 PM
Piracy is ethically wrong, and legally wrong, yes.

Overindulgent, overpaid actors and industry figureheads is also unethical. It just doesn't have the benefit of being legally wrong, and that's the problem with our world.

Cancer, aids, starvation, drugs...what a different world this would be if money wasn't the only thing these idiots care about.

It's hard to stop 20 million people from doing something
by Orionsangels
Apr 1st, 2009
10:44:06 PM
You can't being lawsuits to 20 million people. You have to get it at it's source. Crack down the ones supplying these pirated movies. Someone is obviously leaking them online.
Clicked on the tinyurl tag just now and....
by nobunaga209
Apr 1st, 2009
10:44:18 PM
hahaha...Deadpool def looks like Barracka...cute!
Only Brian Singer can save X-Men!
by ganymede3010
Apr 1st, 2009
10:44:36 PM
And the probability of him coming back in any capacity is nil. This franchise is dead folks. Now their making a Twilight X-Men with mutant teenie boppers. What a fucking disgrace. Marvel, please get the rights back to this franchise. They've had the license now for 10 fucking years. How much more time have to allow these imbeciles at Fox to ass rape your characters.
Motherfuckers are reporting STAR TREK leaked, too
by zillabeast
Apr 1st, 2009
10:45:00 PM
I know it's April fools and such, but if that's true....
Movies are bad enough
by kabong
Apr 1st, 2009
10:47:38 PM
A work print won't be an improvement.
Let's be real folks shall we...
by nobunaga209
Apr 1st, 2009
10:51:39 PM
I'm downloading it as I type this. I'll be porting the movie over to my iTouch and I'll watch it tomorrow during my gym time. Point is, I don't give a flying fuck about FOX, Hugh Jackman, Ryan Reynolds, or anyone who runs AICN...fuck 'em IMO Thing is though I will still see it on May 1st and then get it on BluRay...why? Because I can...that's why...
fox is mad they cant trick us into giving them
by BrainFart
Apr 1st, 2009
10:54:13 PM
a big opening weekend because the movie shits on the fans. They are actually mad their hustle didnt work. FUCK YOU FOX YOU DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE FANS. how hard is it to stay true to the material. thats what we love thats what we want. You made the most heated rivalry in comics into a touching brotherly moment at the end of the film.
Has anyone else noticed...
by sambafreak13
Apr 1st, 2009
10:58:27 PM
that when the "wire-fu" in a preview looks shitty the movie invariably is shitty as well..I can't tell you how many times I've seen someone "jump real high and kind of awkwardly" in a preview and said to myself "wow, this movie will suck"...and it always does....I think there's a direct correlation...based on this, I'm not surprised if this sucks...I feel like all, the previews had shitty looking jumping...am I the only one?
Wolverine:X-Men Origins=I Love You,Man2
by Thanos0145
Apr 1st, 2009
11:01:40 PM
Wolverine and Sabertooth's catch phrase:Bro's before Ho's(Silver Fox)
Cutting piracy through zero tolerance...
by NoHubris
Apr 1st, 2009
11:05:36 PM
...on ALL piracy is one way to deal with it.

Granted, it's a crime for anyone to leak a print. But if equal weight in punishment is afforded when some unethical suit or "creative" type steals from someone else's script, treatment/synopsis, independently produced/unreleased film or whatever, it would likely have a chilling effect on piracy and benefit the industry as a whole.

Bottom line is that any industry is hurt when individuals who provide a resource do not benefit from their efforts due unethical behavior of others. Just look at the Madoff scandal.

meant "...due TO unethical behavior of others..."
by NoHubris
Apr 1st, 2009
11:07:24 PM
May 1st either way
by witpunk
Apr 1st, 2009
11:08:29 PM
Leak or no leak, ill wait for the REAL,FINISHED Movie.
Wolverine/Blob Fight = Nuke the Fridge
by robzass
Apr 1st, 2009
11:09:53 PM
Also Deadpools mouth is sewn shut taking away his nickname "merc with a mouth", has an combination of all the mutants powers and can teleport as well as shoot optic blasts like Cyclops. He actually delivers about 5 lines in the whole film too. SPOILER...yeah he dies too so that eliminates any chance of a spinoff.
If FOX doesn't want...
by codymr
Apr 1st, 2009
11:15:34 PM
their stuff pirated, then don't let it leak. It is that fucking simple. Once it's out in the wild it's fair game.

While I sympathize with the little guy when an industry reaches a tipping point and starts to collapse (like the automotive industry) it is hard for me to sympathize with the big fish such as Jim Gianopoulos and the like who are living a life of EXTREME excess (if anyone has been to a Hollywood party you know what I'm getting at) and who will be just fine if the studio he manages falls on hard times.

It just reinforces people's belief that viewing stolen copyrighted material is OK... Especially when FOX puts out press releases judging people who view the video that is streamed online – as if to imply it was the viewers fault that their workprint wasn’t distributed they way they intended.

!SPOILER!

Oh and by the way... the Darth Maul inspired death scene in this load of poop is really half assed. In addition, so is a character getting "pushed" to where they want to jump to by the force of an explosion. That is very gay as well and oh so 90s.

FOX needs to get their heads out of their collective asses.

Problem with this ' Piracy ' Thing :
by PTSDPete
Apr 1st, 2009
11:17:21 PM
Is it's really only ' illegal ' in America, and a few else. Sure, there are these supposed ' international laws ' and shit, but come on.

If the U.S. govt. could get away with that line of logic in their rendition policy, what's to stop a fricking bootleg ?

Wolverine movie was what we all thought it would be
by RobertCrane
Apr 1st, 2009
11:18:35 PM
I have been watching movies for awhile now, since the days of having to stand in line to watch a movie, having to reserve a VHS copy when it was released, etc. I did all of that. Total fan of good cinema and will let you know when something sucks. Lately, movies suck. Too much CGI and most of it is not even needed in films. Tired of seeing cars thrown at people and they get up without a scratch, Victoria Secret models who weigh 100 pounds kick boxing men three times their size and not even breaking their hands, the list goes on. This Wolverine movie should not shock anyone. Hugh Jackman got paid, this was his production company, he read the script, cashed the check, filmed this steaming pile and will laugh as the money rolls in. I cannot even begin to tell you the faults in this flick. The XMen franchise was doomed after X2. Greed is not good and the over saturation of bad comic book movies will be the end. Maybe this is what the true intention was. FOX, fuck off and die, please.
wow
by Tighxo
Apr 1st, 2009
11:25:51 PM
just watched...god awful. i weep for fans of deadpool and decent comic movies.let's see apologist mod's try to spin this trainwreck.
Doesn't the FBI have better things too do?
by conspiracy
Apr 1st, 2009
11:30:13 PM
that protect some multinational corporations business interests? Ya know..like contribute to the New World order or eavesdrop illegally on some kid playing Halo online who happens to be name Mohammad? I'm not saying "piracy" in necessarily right..but nothing pisses me off than some Big Corp or worse, their lap dogs in Washington, threatening people. Fuck You Fox..and your Buddies in D.C. I hope the Confiker Bunny left a few eggs in your baskets.
one_guy_from_andromeda...Post Win Or STFU
by conspiracy
Apr 1st, 2009
11:33:44 PM
Alright...
by lovecraftian
Apr 1st, 2009
11:36:54 PM
You know, Harry, I never downloaded this flick. I wasn't planning on it either. But this? Well, it goes beyond the pale. You're supporting the absolute worst of the corporate mentality by advocating Fox's side on this to the extent you just did. With that in mind, I'm done supporting AICN. I'm outta here. So long Harry. It was nice knowing you till you chose to act in this manner. I'm done.
now if only the ST leak was true
by Tommy999
Apr 1st, 2009
11:38:54 PM
screw you anticipation I want it now next week give me TF2 and T4 and well that'd be ok
Even in its rough cut, better than X3
by blindambition238
Apr 1st, 2009
11:44:13 PM
but the story, acting, and tone still fell bellow X2.

If they aren't bullshitting about the rumored changes, edits, and extra characterization (especially with Deadpool) they added during reshoots, it could be a good film. But there are some big things they likely couldn't manipulate that were a bit cringe worthy.

If the legit reviews for the final product are positive, I'll pay for to see it again.


by Tighxo
Apr 1st, 2009
11:47:34 PM
must admit that reynolds as deadpool was perfect. Wish he was used more and didn't (SPOILER) get such a sh***y story arch ending
noncents
by Jesiah
Apr 1st, 2009
11:49:29 PM
Wasn't even thinking that angle, but yeah Fox had this coming the way they dicked WB re: watchmen
I call bullshit on the whole thing
by DuncanHines
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:03:23 AM
And not in an April Fool's way. In a bullshit about it being a "leak" and that it'll affect this movie's box office performance in any way. I think that the studios are catching on to how finicky and whiny a healthy portion of the audiences are for these movies, so they leaked the movie themselves to see what people like and what they don't like so they could essentially let their audience edit it. They have listened to every person who bitched about X3 and even Watchmen, and they're trying to get this one as close to right as they can. The best way to do that would be to release (leak) an incomplete early draft of this movie and see what the fanboys have to say about it. They're going to cut and then re-edit the whole thing to please as many people as possible. Mark my words. I'm not always right, but I'm pretty sure I'm right on this one.
Who the fuck cares about this trainwreck?
by Motoko Kusanagi
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:23:15 AM
And who the fuck cares about Fox and their PG-13 bullshit movies?
WNB
by NoHubris
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:29:52 AM
I was simply suggesting zero tolerance for the unethical few inside the industry who shamelessly steal from true artists and creative people without batting an eye.

In other words, it's a very big deal when someone pirates a whole movie, but barely a voice is raised when the little person's work - treatment, synopsis, script, or independent film (without distribution)- is raided for material by the vultures. It is wrong on both ends but is not treated as such IMHO.

Scoops, film coverage and cool news are a different story entirely. I'm all for a free press, especially internet news.

Its official
by BrainFart
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:40:43 AM
new interview with ryan reynolds says if they decide to do deadpool right he would love to play him. This ends any hope for reshoots saving this peice of shit. I thought i was mad a spiderman 3. Cant we sue or arrest FOX for trying to trick us into seeing this movie. Its misrepresentation. Its theft what they were doing not the pirating. Pirating is good for a good movie, it creates buzz sinsations like taken and gran torino. What FOX tried to do is criminal.
Hugh Jackman
by BrainFart
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:44:23 AM
had creative rights. Im telling you he was forced to use Ryan Reynolds in the movie and was scared of the next 4 xmen movies centered around him and not jackman. He destroyed any hope of that and left himself open to receive the next big xmen paycheck
The Eric Bana Hulk workprint was leaked early too...
by Mrhazard
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:48:20 AM
This is nothing new...
stealing a movie vs movie stealing our 10 $
by theplant
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:50:43 AM
I think someone should put out a case of movies not keeping their side of the bargain ie being shitty -- in that case, who is suing Fox, Warner, or whomever ? Why do we have to pay to see shit movies that don't entertain ?
If you order something from amazon
by BrainFart
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:05:44 AM
they cant just send you a different item with a label from the item you ordered. Thats against the law. Isnt that exactly what Fox tried to do.
I Maintain we should pay AFTER we watch it,...
by conspiracy
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:08:17 AM
The way this industry is retailed...we pay before we even get a taste...are rare is the theater that will refund your money.

By having the customer pay after the movie...it holds those that make it accountable...like a great chef. In any restaurant worth going too...If the Food stinks..you complain a few bites into the dish..and you either walk out or get a new plate that is too your liking. ONLY the cinema makes you pay up front for something that may be pure shit, and laughs as you walk out poorer and cheated. 90% of the time when they release a clunker, which is often these days, they know is sucks..they know it will die 2 weeks into its run..and yet they market the shit out of it...get it to recoup its losses on release and hope for DVD sales. They KNOW they are fucking the audience...and they..don't fucking care. Well Fuck them...I'll get my taste from Lime, or Piratebay, or emule...or from some punk Korean kid who stole it somewhere...and if I like it on the laptop..THEN I'll go see it properly in the movie house. But No more will I pay up front to be insulted and cheated like I have been lately...Hollywood...you and me are DONE professionally..Fucking Ass

It really is BAD
by Biffs_Pleasure_Paradise
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:12:10 AM
I thought all this talk of awful was the usual talkback hyperbole, but no, it really is that bad. A horrible mess of a story with some bad acting to boot. Sadly, 14 minutes will NOT save the film. Now I can see why Fox is so pissed! Oh, and whoever said this was better than X3 must have been watching a different movie.
How could they not learn from spiderman 3
by BrainFart
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:13:33 AM
oh yeah i forgot even though it sucked it made more money than any other movie that year. They learned a lesson that movie premise and a good trailer is all you need. They actually stole the fomula used in spiderman3.
no its still beter than x3
by BrainFart
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:15:31 AM
No major villain was killed by running into a wall or by the power of love. Less wolverine crying too. but being better than x3 is not an acomplishment sir.
Piracy already killed the music industry, douchebags
by gruntybear
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:16:01 AM
And piracy is currently killing all print media and creeping up on film and gaming. There are virtually no independent music stores left; just Walmarts and Targets as far as the eye can see. And why? Because teenage fucktwits seem to think that what entertains them should be perpetually free. It don't work that way, kiddies. Someone needs to actually get paid or the fucking media doesn't get made. Borders should be gone within the month. The Chicago-Sun Times filed for bankruptcy. All stemming from the scourge that is the internet and the basement dwelling douchebags that can't understand that if you STEAL the media, the media will soon no longer exist for you to bitch about. Not unless you're seriously into the homegrown shit that's on waste-of-space sites like Youtube. I loathe what the internet has done to popular culture - absolutely loathe it. Look at the pathetic state of the music industry. That is exactly where the film industry is heading in an exceedingly short time. If the "sampling" argument for piracy were true, then the music stores should be booming right about now. But they're not. Why? Because the digital file is now the end-product. Why buy physical, when the digital copy is "just as good?" Why pay iTunes for something we can torrent for free. When the end-product and the "sample" eventually merge into the same thing, the industry dies. Mark my words, this is already happening with film. It's only going to get worse over time.
What's with the DRAMA!!????
by ElJuano
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:17:26 AM
Know what it's not done, Do they need to expand on the Deadpool character YES!!! I hope they will with this extra footage they took back in Jan. Know what if anyone did see it take it like a screentest and go from there post some comments that will hopefully help this movie. I'm a HUGE Wolvie Fan and I REALLY WANT TO LIKE THIS MOVIE! but if Fox, Warner Bros., Sony, whoever, needs to aim at a certain genre or fanbase then please let us in on the production part of the movie making experience. Know what we will be the ones either loving or hating the film. Why not HEAR our input? Why not ask for our thoughts and opinions. FOX you should freely let the fans see an early screening of the movies you are making directed toward this group of fans via the web were we will all have our say in the matter. Wolverine is one of these flicks. Maybe, JUST maybe WE wont have such an adverse and condemning taste in our mouths everytime we hear you are producing product that we hold dear. This leak sux but know what learn from it and don't hide something that can eventually be better if and only IF you (FOX and the others I mentioned earlier) are willing to admit you don't know everything about OUR GENRE, OUR Geekdom and let us at least voice our opinions. Just listen you might learn something! Gracias.
gruntybear
by BrainFart
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:21:38 AM
Piracy helps the music industry. By industry i mean the bands. Piracy spreads the music around more than a 10 dollar cd does so when the band comes to town it sells out faster than ever prompting more tour stops and raking in insane amounts of cash. Way more than 10 bucks per person. and more money goes to the artist.
you cant pirate an experience like a live concert
by BrainFart
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:24:07 AM
thats something youll never forget and well worth the chunk of change
gruntybear..The only thing Dead about the Music business..
by conspiracy
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:38:19 AM
is the Business end of it...which has been dying since long before the Normal folks invaded the net my friend.

The artists never made SQUAT from sales to begin with...they make 70% of their income from TOURING, and live performance. So Piracy isn't hurting the artist...it is hurting the Douchebags who sell .50cent wholesale CDs for $14.95. It isn't hurting the producers, the roadies, the session guys, the promotions people or the guy who give Bono his Wheat Grass Enema before the show...it IS however killing the VP and A&R heavy Suits...the guys who tell the artist to "pop" it up and make it accessible to the average retard.

And I say Good riddance...that isn't Capitalism..that is a subsidized monopoly. From now on...the Producer and artist will release direct to the net...probably for free...and once their music is out there and people are demanding more..get down to the business of touring and making their money. All that the Artist and Consumer have done here is what good Capitalists have always done..look for advantage, cut out the middleman(the army of lawyers,A&R guys,and corporate VP's) and let the market decide price and how and when it is too be paid.

And I've been FUCKED one too many times by Hollywood to get teary eyed over some pirate forewarning me away from their latest shit fest. I'm glad this leaked...I'm glad it is being universally picked apart...Why? I just saved $12 and about 2 hours of my life..thats why...If only I'd had this type of warning with Cloverfuck. Color me retarded...but I am not going to get upset that Fox was cheated out of cheating me out of a few bucks to watch their crappy film.

Hulk workprint was 2003
by robzass
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:39:04 AM
back then it took like 5 weeks to download.
Piracy isn't killing the film industry, Bad scripts are!
by Alkohal
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:41:28 AM
WOW after viewing the piece of buffalo shit, I may never return to Fox's X-men series again. Deadpool got FUCKED!
gruntybear
by CRanga
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:41:55 AM
You think piracy killed the print media. How about the fact that you can get the news instantly from pretty much anywhere via the internet, or you can wait until next morning and get the news 12 hours late. Advances in technology is killing print media, and that's a good thing.
So muians should only make $$ from live shows?
by gruntybear
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:50:16 AM
That's bullshit and you know it. 99% of the artists that have any marquee value - EVEN TODAY - got where they got because of the "evil" studio system. You would seriously consign musicians to essentially holding their hat out at live shows to make their livings from this point forward? The myth that you've apparently bought into that the artists see little to none of the profits from recorded media is just that: a fucking myth, and a REALLY TIRED ONE AT THAT. There are innumerable alternative revenue streams these days for artists to make bank from their recorded catalog. To say they should not receive a share of the revenue that ought to be generated from these "loss leaders" is doing a disservice to the musicians, themselves. Piracy can't be justified as a righteous punishment to the "greedy" corporate overlords. It's cheap bastards using technology to "get theirs," while fucking over a huge portion of the industry that works the middle - the technicians, the tour managers, the roadies, the sound engineers, the album design teams, etc., etc.
And CRanga, where does that "news" come from, if no one pays?
by gruntybear
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:55:27 AM
The bloggers leach from legitimate journalists who are paid to go into places like Afghanistan and Pakistan to actually report the news. Where do you think the bloggers get their information? 'Cuz I don't see them sticking their necks out for free. The problem with "free" journalism is that you get exactly what you paid for: absolutely nothing worthwhile.
What a goddamned load of pish (SPOILER)
by Brody77
Apr 2nd, 2009
02:08:45 AM
I was gonna bite my tongue, but that made X3 look like X2. Utter pish. Ryan Reynolds got assfucked on that one. Go do Flash with WB mate, be a better move. If this is the way it's hitting cinemas (with finished cgi etc obviously) then Fox can ram it up Rothman's arse. Not just that the film was bad - it seemed like Jackman was in Van Helsing mode ie phoning it in. I did like the cameo from you-know-who but it reminded me of Robin Hood Men in Tights! I don't know who to blame for the pishness of the movie. The only good bit was the wartimes stuff. And the cynic in me agrees that this was leaked on purpose - either by someone inside who is really passionate about Wolverine the character, or by the studio to find out how big a turd they plopped.
Can someone explain Jackmans insta -dry hair!?
by Alkohal
Apr 2nd, 2009
02:13:19 AM
He jumps out of the tub , then jumps naked down a waterfall and yet next scene after his hair is perfectly dry and shaped. HOW!?
"What you in For?"
by proper
Apr 2nd, 2009
02:15:50 AM
"Murder.And You?"."I pirated Wolverine"."Pick up my Soap Please,and by the way from now on your name is Anne Bonny".Who'd want to nicked for that????????
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
by Darkknight37
Apr 2nd, 2009
02:15:53 AM
This movie is comedy. I swear, if anything in the theater resembles the last half of the movie, I'm killing the first small child I see as I walk out.
Piracy is not as evil as they claim
by dookiew
Apr 2nd, 2009
02:21:29 AM
piracy is like free advertising for a lot of artists. Piracy turns many users on to a new work of art at a large scale. Radiohead tried to prove some of this when they offered their latest album for free. Think of how much additional exposure they got for almost no price at all, and how many additional records they sold of previous albums, not to mentions merchandise and concerts. There are even some studies that claim piracy to have a positive effect on the economy.(http://tinyurl.com/dz p2jk)
gruntybear
by CRanga
Apr 2nd, 2009
02:27:01 AM
My point was print media not being paid for because it's outdated. There's still room for news through other mediums, such as CNN, Fox, MSNBC, Reuters. I was just responding to your statement that piracy is killing the print media. I dare say that the reporters sent into war zones or foreign countries are employed by major corporations, not by the Chicago Sun Times. Their reports are then picked up and disemminated through a network of news services, this includes TV, radio, newspaper and blogs. As a rule, bloggers don't really unearth the news, they just present it to a wider audience. That hardly amounts to leaching or piracy. In fact, a defence to copyright infringement is reporting the news.
saint seiya
by cinemaniac
Apr 2nd, 2009
02:35:12 AM
The jpeg you linked to is error 404 ...And what makes you think Rising Sun had anything to do with the leak?
well done AICN, you made the bbc website!
by Mr_X
Apr 2nd, 2009
02:36:08 AM
http://tinyurl.com/cnmaty..

" more than 75,000 copies of the film have already been downloaded ..."

One user wrote on aintitcool.com: "The CGI is missing and the movie looks horrible without it.

i wonder if Fox could get the ip addresses of AICN users
by Mr_X
Apr 2nd, 2009
02:45:16 AM
I mean those of you who've said you've watched it and prosecute
A Few More Things...
by Ace of Wands
Apr 2nd, 2009
02:46:03 AM
"3) It's odd to find myself in the position of defending Fox, but I'm 100% anti-piracy regardless of the studio. I've never been into file sharing or anything of that nature (from Napster onward). I PREFER TO PAY FOR MY MOVIES AND MY MUSIC" (my emphasis).

Wanker!!Have you frakkin bothered to listen to what most here are commenting on; geeks will download for free, then pay at the fucking cinema and then buy the fucking DVD. So don't set yourself up as standing on some higher moral fucking ground, Beaks.

You're anti-piracy, fine. I'm pro-piracy which, despite your fucking moral snootiness, is also fine; I will do a George Lucas and reiterate that the Music and Film industries lose fuck all revenue from illegal downloads and such. They gain some free marketing dollars from the publicity but they lose nothing. If you know better, Beaks, then quote the fucking figures; I won't be waiting with bated breath.

I'm also very amused that you seem to think that this site still has the power to influence the outcome of box office takings by the power of some negative reviews posted here. Those days are long over as this site has successfully neutered itself in the quest for closer links to the industry and- not that I wish to disillusion you, Beaks,- never existed for your column anyway. Seig Heil!!

Wow, this is one intricate April Fool's gag
by BenBraddock
Apr 2nd, 2009
02:50:17 AM
Did u know Logan is an adamantium werewolf?
by Max Meanie
Apr 2nd, 2009
03:14:44 AM
Only one way to stop him! Adamantium bullets! This talkbalk is MORE entertaining!
FYI leaked Wolverine workprint THE SOURCE
by ph00l
Apr 2nd, 2009
03:33:16 AM
Everyone's freaking out over who leaked it, don't kno who for sure inside FOX but some guys where bragging about it on one of the sites. It wasn't optic or ndn, they just stole the file as there own. These guys are a new group, DMG, never heard of them b4 but they said they got the file from a guy inside FOX and then dumped it straight p2p. Said the inside guy smuggled the workprint in the garbage and they grabbed it from the dumpsters. crazy shit. you didn't hear this from me...ph
Swords in arms is dumb
by pearlanddean
Apr 2nd, 2009
04:10:32 AM
That scene where Deadpool deflects all the bullets with his swords is sort of cool. But when he's been 'upgraded', the swords come out of his arms, Wolvie style. There's no way he could do the same moves with those. How exactly do you keep a full length sword in your forearm anyway? Too much of the fighting looked like it was lifted from 'Equilibrium'.
bacci40, sheeple?
by Continentalop
Apr 2nd, 2009
04:17:24 AM
Sorry, but whenever I hear that old chestnut that was once sprouted by Timothy McVeigh, I have to grimace. It always seems someone is out there telling you that they are fighting the powers that be, when really they are just upset that they are on the bottom of the pecking order and want to come up with a rational why you are more successful and they are the odd guys out.

You don't want to pay for movies or entertainment? Fine, don't. It is not my job to pass moral judgment on anyone else (womanizing, drug-using drunks with criminal records can't hold the moral high ground) but don't try to pass off your laziness, greed and selfishness as somehow an act of rebellion or rationalize it as somehow noble. It is just stealing. Man up to it and lets move on.

Plus, no one ever gets fucked over by Hollywood
by Continentalop
Apr 2nd, 2009
04:26:40 AM
You only get fucked over by yourselves. I mean you are the ones who bought the ticket or the DVD and paid money to see the movie. Sure a trailer might be misleading, but that is advertising, and it is advertising job to make something look appealing. As the old roman expression goes, "Let the buyer beware."

And if Hollywood films continue to be disappointing, than guess what, stop seeing them. But you keep coming back to them like some bizarre love-hate relationship. I have sympathy for a woman who claims she was raped once after walking down a dark alley, but after the twelfth or thirteenth time I say “Stop walking down that alley, you fucking moron!”

I agree with continentalop
by ominus
Apr 2nd, 2009
04:39:28 AM
piracy is not rebellion.u dont the fight the system by downloading a pirated copy of a movie.

the best thing u can do as a consumer,is not buy the products,which the big corporations are selling.

Why do you all give a fuck?
by TheMandrakeRoot
Apr 2nd, 2009
04:47:48 AM
Your constant conflicting opinions aren't going to convince anyone any different. People are always gonna download movies, and the industry is always gonna make a fuckload of money. It's not like were the ones stealing the movie and putting it on the internet. I say once its there, it's fair game for anyone who wants to look at it. They should keep a tighter lock on their films if they don't want this shit to happen. And as so many have said, if it was a good movie this shit wouldn't matter.

But wait... reality is it's probably complete shite. So who cares? Maybe this will be incentive for them to actually put forth some true creativity in these so-called "blockbusters", so piracy or not the movie will live long after it's release.

And christ, don't they get enough of our money as it is? A freebie every now and then is well earned for most people. I just don't do it cause the quality blows. Either way, it's America motherfuckers!!!

HELLNBACK.....
by Uridium
Apr 2nd, 2009
04:50:43 AM
Looks like you got quoted on the BBC mate... http://tinyurl.com/cdfjoe
I just had a thought
by DrLektor
Apr 2nd, 2009
05:15:01 AM
A studio decides on making a film, they're the ones that set down nearly a hundred million dollars, it's a gamble. They're betting the cost of this film and their reputation, not to mention the rep of the director and actors involved against you guys, the people who see it in theatres and buy it on DVD, the studio wants to make a profit... from you. Sure some directors feel strongly about a story and make a movie out of love for the source material but at the end of the day, it's the men in suits who finance and distribute it. And how do they go about this? They embelish, they lie and they use sometimes questionable tactics to draw you in. You see a series of trailers cut in such a way it appeals to the widest demographic, perfect marketing strategy. They advertise all over the fucking place until you start to see the movie characters in your sleep, Buying airtime on the highest watched channels to hit the most people. They merchandise the movie through the ass until every eight to eighty year old has figures and posters and mugs. Certain sites get paid to hype the movie, some reviewers are studio plants, all to DRAW. YOU. IN. And by the time the movie finally opens, you tell yourself you've made up your own mind, you're going to see this despite all that. But who are you kidding? Really? Have you been living under a rock? So you waste over two hours and $10 in a theatre seeing a piece of shit movie. Don't you feel cheated? The studio just rolled the dice and won, they've taken you to the bank. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Star Wars: The Phantom Menace. Now put the shoe on the other foot. X-Men Origins: Wolverine. Fox is betting everything on this being a summer blockbuster, they want, nay, they need your money. Except they didn't count on an enterprising employee running off with a copy and leaking it. Now the cats out of the bag, people have seen that this movie is not the hit Fox are betting on, cheating or getting ahead of the game? To keep throwing analogies your way, the dice are loaded, are you still going to play? Movie making is a risk, what happens at script stage? What happens at an executive screening? At what point does someone say "Y'know? Fuck it, that'll do, we'll just let it play an extra week in bumfuck Nebraska to make up the losses." If you gamble, Fox, sometimes you have to be prepared to lose. Heaven knows you've taken enough of our money throughout the years.
Free Wolverine?
by Helpful Electronic Lab Partner Robot
Apr 2nd, 2009
05:25:52 AM
Still gonna pass.

Leak Star Trek next plz
Hypocritical bastards
by rocky_road
Apr 2nd, 2009
05:26:33 AM
It makes me laugh that all the dumb fucks that are bitching about the unfinished copy they've illegally downloaded are the same fan boys that jerk themselves off over the idea of an Avengers movie, or the Iron Man 2 casting. It's pretty obvious that the more fuckers that download this film and others illegally, the less likely it is that the other major adaptations you want to see will be made.
Taken is a great example
by sheepshagger
Apr 2nd, 2009
05:28:16 AM
If you make a decent fun movie people want to go to the movies with their friends. Taken has been on DVD over in the UK for 2 months and in the cinema back last summer. Yet has still taken a ton at the box office for this time of year.Wolverine is going to be wank no doubt.The trailer made me want to stab my own eyes out.Unoriginal crap.I wont be even bother downloading it
X2 is not all that
by masteryoda007
Apr 2nd, 2009
05:28:33 AM
I think all of the Xmen movies were total shite. How can they have Wolverine as the main character when everyone knows the true leader of the Xmen was Scott Summers. They pissed all over his character and backstory. X2 was ok for about the first 15 mins then is goes down down down. Fuck Fox and if you have problem with that then fuck you too. All I want to say is ha ha.
hahahahahah
by december
Apr 2nd, 2009
05:30:15 AM
If this was any other studio i'd ignore it, but FUCK fox. Rothman's douchebag ass deserves this. Ruining movie after movie and making that place the studio equivalent of a retarded day care center, NOT TO MENTION trying to steal watchmen from WB, I hope everyone on earth who wanted to see this flick downloads it, and fox loses their goddamn shirts. You had it coming Rothman, you fucker.
masteryoda007 things are worse in the comics
by ominus
Apr 2nd, 2009
05:31:14 AM
wolverine is everywhere,in every damn superhero team,comic series,comic teamups,cosmic wars,alternate realities,civil wars,every damn comic.

one of the main reasons i stopped reading marvel comics.

HEY MR BEAKS!
by logicalnoise01
Apr 2nd, 2009
07:18:47 AM
What about all us idiots who bought let the right one in with Harry's ref ID on amazon? We got fucked on the subs and the only proper way to watch the movie is to download the screener or other region versions. Was I wrong in sayingw ell since magnet films doesn't care and is fucking anyone who already bought the DVD maybe I'll just get the proper version via means that magnet hopes I won't go?
I'm Done...
by peppersgc
Apr 2nd, 2009
07:22:54 AM
...with "Hollywood" Comic Book movies. Fuck 'em. I grew up with three favorite characters in comics: Spider-man (#3 ruined him) Venom (again with Spider-man 3) and Deadpool (I will not download the movie out of respect, but a friend filled me in on everything. I also will not spoil the movie here. Just, PLEASE, avoid this piece of fetid rat vomit.) The following is not a review but a commentary on bad movie making. Some may consider it a little spoilerish, though. What is it with Shoddywood and the never ending trend of killing characters that never died in the source material. Way back when, as I watched Jonathan Kent die on-screen, I sort of figured that the feeble minded writers would fuck it up for a while but I never guessed it would last this long. I hope Rob Liefeld and Fabian Nicieza fuckin' sue somebody. It would be a nice change of pace if Fox was made accountable for this putrid bowel movement. I pray to God that Marvel also sues for their rights back for the franchise. Could you imagine an X-Men movie written by Stan Lee and Chris Claremont? It would be the Bad Assery to end all Bad Asseriness. When I finally do see this movie in a cinema near me, I feel in my heart that I will finally, but reluctantly, be joining the "Raped My Childhood" club. And that sucks.
I like the example of "Taken"
by The_Man_Behind_The_Curtain
Apr 2nd, 2009
07:23:48 AM
I knew next to nothing about the movie except Liam Neeson kicked ass in it, when my friend got hold of a copy. We watched it and thought it was excellent and then, a few weeks later, it came out in the cinema and so we took five others to watch it too because we already knew it was a good action movie.

I probably wouldn't have watched it in the cinema otherwise to be honest.

I'm not going to download this movie, not out of principle, but because I want to see the complete version. The fact I'm not interested enough to watch in the cinema probably also affects my judgement here but i'll catch it on DVD most likely.

all of this stuff reminds of the cries I hear from..
by emeraldboy
Apr 2nd, 2009
07:24:56 AM
the Record industry. Irma(irish record musicians Association) and IMro(Irish musician recording Organisation) are fully behind paul Mcguinness's crusade to crack down on illegal downloading by getting the reord companies to put pressure on ISP's to hand over the names of people who have been caught downloading music illegally. if McGuinness gets his way that will constitute a massive invasion of privacy. Irma and imro are standing hand in hand with their backs to burning buildings called record stores. The recession killed off the record stores. where are you going to get Music from if Record stores charge an arm and a leg for CDS. by downloading of course. but do you want your names and addresses in the hands of the ISPs who will be forced to hand them over to the authorities. Mark my words this is going to happen in the movie industry especially when it comes to movie downloading. With this wolverine stuff I can well see a test case coming. Fox did it before. With buffy sites which were leaking scripts all over the net. fox was left with no choice but to close them down.
ALSO
by logicalnoise01
Apr 2nd, 2009
07:28:09 AM
I will never watch the workprint but I'd download it just to say fuck you to fox and any other studio that helps fuck copyright law every time it becomes inconvenient. Oh yeah AICN has supported piracy in teh past, maybe not chinese knock offs but anytime you've supported a fan edit of a movie any fan edit of a trailer any "terribly illegal" fan posters or. Hell I remember AICN is where I first saw Batman Dead end. Copyright law is wrong until it's fixed. I support the idea of it but I don't support the BS that passes as reform. Mickey mouse should be public property by now and Eisner was too fucking stupid to realize Disney would retain original ownership credit and still be able to use the character appropriately and profitably.
seems to be a patern here
by BendersShinyAss
Apr 2nd, 2009
07:32:08 AM
shit movies are leaked and then blamed for their losses. I'm telling you, it's an insurance job.
Something...
by peppersgc
Apr 2nd, 2009
07:34:24 AM
...just occurred to me. Do talk backs record ip addresses? That would be some funny shit with all these people admitting to downloading and watching the movie. I'm not saying AiCN would sell out anybody! Perish the thought! It just seemed funny to me.
bender's shiny ass
by logicalnoise01
Apr 2nd, 2009
07:35:53 AM
1)leak crappy workprint of crappy movie 2) sue poor idiot who leaked it and then teh pirate group he leaked through 3) get huge damages from people who caqn't nor will ever pay it 4) maybe get some word of mouth going that with the CG intact it could be wroth seeing in theaters 5) profit? actually it seems like a proper fox policy.
regarding the x-men movies...
by emeraldboy
Apr 2nd, 2009
07:38:34 AM
I want to make something clear. Hugh jackman used the x-men series to create his production company and Used the clout off the back of the x-men movies to establish himself as a power player. The way I see it foxx should have done a single movie about the early days of the x-men first and then made the x-men movies and not the other way around.
My friend told me of a man...
by emeraldboy
Apr 2nd, 2009
07:43:46 AM
who runs a download service on the net where you can see films on the net for free. cant remember the name of the site. but that is where my friend saw spiderman three.
P.S.
by peppersgc
Apr 2nd, 2009
07:46:06 AM
@ Mr_X. Just saw your post about ip's. Great minds laugh alike. and @ Max Meanie. I have the adamantium werewolf copyrighted. I should prove the adamantium bullet was my idea and sue them myself. That does sound like fun.
brand new films are streamed...
by emeraldboy
Apr 2nd, 2009
07:49:11 AM
from this guys computer to the viewer who will then see the film on their home computer or internet cafe or whereever.
i have a hard time...
by Obscura
Apr 2nd, 2009
07:50:09 AM
...respecting fox after all the things they've fucked up. infact its got to the point that i tend to avoid fox movies when its not something i need to see. after what happened with Watchmen i dont want to give them any more money than i have to.
it's alright.
by Kizeesh
Apr 2nd, 2009
07:55:25 AM
I'll still go see it at the pictures.
WNB
by WT
Apr 2nd, 2009
08:01:37 AM
Personally I disagree- as for movies being overpriced, clothes are overpriced, coffee in a cafe is overpriced, every commodity in the world including the nominal currency is overpriced. I suppose I should have said "I personally prefer the cinema experience". But then there's no edit button on this, so I apologise for talking in generalisations. But then I think everyone knows what I'm talking about.
While I have no real moral objection to piracy
by smackfu
Apr 2nd, 2009
08:13:09 AM
I hope they find the guy who leaked it and I hope they destroy his life. For one thing, this wasn't just a soulless Fox money making project, Jackman was heavily invested in it, said right from the start he was doing it for the fans and because Wolverine made him what he is today. And with this collective act we the fans have all basically taken a big shit on Hugh Jackman. The other issue, is that the possibility of any more (and potentially better) Wolverine or Xmen Origin films hang on this films Box Office, which we've also just collectively sank.
WhinyNegativeBitch
by smackfu
Apr 2nd, 2009
08:22:11 AM
Interesting that you are somehow able to know the motivations of others based on what you see or read about a film they made. Have you considered the possibility that Jackman tried to make a great film for us but failed? He is after all, just an actor. Perhaps his 'ideas' and input on what makes a good Wolverine film simply missed the mark? You should try being less of a faggot sometime, seriously. It could have a positive impact on your life.
Fuckin' AICN
by fat lenny
Apr 2nd, 2009
08:22:42 AM
Just re-reading that Harry review of Episode 2 makes me want to choke a bitch. Fucking morons, go ahead and play studio enforcer... acting like cunts is a great way to keep your readership.
Way to pimp Chud, Mr. Beaks. I can do that shit also..........
by Stuntcock Mike
Apr 2nd, 2009
08:24:31 AM
http://www.aintitbalenews.com/ Wolverine review coming this weekend!
and for God's sake please stop being
by smackfu
Apr 2nd, 2009
08:26:33 AM
the stereotypical 'George Lucas raped my childhood' type of fan who takes a childish personal offense when a movie gets made that doesn't live up to your expectations. It makes us all look bad.
I watched 5 minutes of Wolverine
by Chadley BeBay
Apr 2nd, 2009
08:29:10 AM
and it sucked asshole. You can just tell when a movie sucks right from the get-go, and this SUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKS.
smackfu-
by Chadley BeBay
Apr 2nd, 2009
08:32:36 AM
Shut up bitchface. I don't give a rat's ass about Star Wars, except I like the first 2 movies, but it doens't take a genius to see Lucas assfucked a classic series beyond repair. If fans weren't outraged, I would think I was insane. Those movies are shit, Wolverine is shit, and you are liquid shit. "Makes us all look bad" - you wish you belonged to an 'us' hahahaha
I haven't seen it yet but for people complaining about it
by smackfu
Apr 2nd, 2009
08:32:42 AM
Please keep in mind that the music, sound and especially the editing makes a huge difference. Remember the 2003 Hulk workprint? It had temporary music and sound, and the editing was weird, the final copy that came out felt like a completely different film. While I'm not expecting this to be Citizen Kane or anything, I'm hoping it will be a watchable popcorn flick
Keep seeding guys.
by Stuntcock Mike
Apr 2nd, 2009
08:35:38 AM
Took 15 minutes. Quickest download yet.
Sadly, people are correct, the film just isn't very good
by Trazadone
Apr 2nd, 2009
08:37:21 AM
Aside from Hugh I just hated the cast and the story just isn't very interesting. I'll be saving my $10. Also, it's absurd to believe that Harry and co. didn't watch this workprint.
"..the last person who committed such a crime is still in jail"
by zyuray2
Apr 2nd, 2009
08:37:33 AM
Christ, they lock people up for leaking a movie? Nevermind the rapists and killers running around loose, let's lock up the mailroom clerk who leaked a movie. Being a little self-important here, aren't we Hollywood?
Whiny, you're not a faggot because you don't like the film
by smackfu
Apr 2nd, 2009
08:42:06 AM
you're a faggot because you think you actually *know* that the people involved made it shitty because they didn't care. You have no idea what their motivations or level of investment was. By your analogy, when your plumber does a shitty job, rather than assuming he just wasn't a good plumber, and hoping next time you'll get a better one, you sit around spitting venom about how he did it on purpose because he didn't care enough about plumbing. It's pretty plain to see from your posts that you have this image of your self as some kind of revolutionary thinker and political warrior on the subject of studios and 'the industry' but...you're not. You're just an emo douchebag, WE ALL KNOW about the flaws of big studio industry, the difference is we're smart enough to realize that everyone else also knows. You're an emo douche on a soapbox angrily telling everyone about how KFC treats chickens or how fluoride in the water isn't necessary. We know. We all know. We're not on the soapbox because we realize it's common knowledge.
"You're just an emo douchebag"
by DoctorWho?
Apr 2nd, 2009
08:46:16 AM
LOL. Nailed it.
Chadley BeBay
by smackfu
Apr 2nd, 2009
08:47:22 AM
You missed the point completely. In every way that a person can miss a point. Where in my post did I say Lucas DIDN'T make a horrible trainwreck out of those prequels? I wasn't arguing the validity of complaining about the prequels, I was trying to point out the difference between a person who sees the prequels and goes 'wow, that sucked. What a shitty movie', and someone that has a complete tantrum about it.
Chadley and Whiny...?
by DoctorWho?
Apr 2nd, 2009
08:58:52 AM
Are you guys skipping class today?

Rebels.

WhinyNegativeBitch
by smackfu
Apr 2nd, 2009
09:03:22 AM
My bottom line is this. If you were to sit down with Jackman personally, or the writer, or the director, who is a pretty fucking good director based on his previous work, do you really think each of them would talk about half-assing their way through the project? Or do you think you'd hear about how awesome they thought it was going to be?

Let's look at the writer for example. David Benioff. His stuff is hit and miss. Mostly hit. He worked on The Kite Runner, Stay and 25th Hour, pretty cool films. He also did Troy, which I hated. Personally, I see a trend. When he is writing small, personal films, heavy on the drama, he excels. When he works on an action film, not so good. So do you REALLY think that when this guy sat down to write Wolverine that he just decided to just half ass a complete piece of shit screenplay because he didn't care, despite the fact that Wolverine failing would have a negative impact on his career, paycheck and credibility? Or do you think it's more reasonable that maybe he tried his best, thought he was doing an awesome job, but the action film really just isn't where he shines?

You see, what I've laid out is a pretty reasonable scenario for why the film might not be as well written as we'd hoped. As compared to your scenario, which is dripping in emo vitriol and completely lacking plausability in the real world. This is due to the fact that I live in reality, and think clearly, whereas you live in self-indulgent faggot fanboy land.
Sorry about the heavy use of 'faggot'
by smackfu
Apr 2nd, 2009
09:05:48 AM
but along with Douchebag, Fuck and Retard, I believe it to be one of the most effective and delightful insults in the English language.
I really hope the finished version is better
by mrfantomashawk
Apr 2nd, 2009
09:14:13 AM
this movie was borderline terrible, the only cool part was sabertooth storming the beaches of normandy
wish i had night vision
by krod
Apr 2nd, 2009
09:14:40 AM
Inner Sanctum-onius
by 13thMonkey
Apr 2nd, 2009
09:15:36 AM
I too make my living in the industry and have been as sanctimonious as most towards the perceived threat of downloads... What I am disapointed in however, is the fact that the studios have chosen in most cases to 'combat' the issue by attacking anyone they can get their hands on... The fact is they had an enormous advantage in that the music industry got hit long before they did due to bandwidth and file size and even with YEARS of heads up the best they can do is to crucify those at the end of the chain. How can the Dl'ers not perceive this as war mongering? Fear is no deterrent in this case... DL'ing is a fact of life and trying to stop it is absurd beyond comprehension and about 15 years too late. Work with it... Understand it... use it.
If there is one thing I've learned from this debacle...
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Apr 2nd, 2009
09:15:53 AM
...it's that there are some really stupid new handles on these boards. Yeah, I'm looking at you, COCKNASTY.

Oh, and E_Nizzle = Cunt.

Schnizzle that Nizzle.

I'll still see it legitimately
by Abominable Snowcone
Apr 2nd, 2009
09:18:17 AM
Haven't checked out the workprint yet. Haven't had time. But I'm looking forward to it. I have no feelings about Fox one way or another--they've done some good stuff and some bad stuff, like most studios. I enjoyed the first three X-men well enough. I will say, however, that I enjoy Hugh Jackman enough as an actor and as a person to NOT discuss this movie in any way until it comes out this summer. If I watch the workprint at home, fine, but I'm not gonna talk about it. I don't wanna know anything about it until I see it for myself. This kind of shit is like when you were a kid, and you "accidentally" happen upon the hiding place where your parents kept all the Christmas presents.
I don't come here for news I come here for talkback vitriol.
by FookU
Apr 2nd, 2009
09:29:56 AM
So what is a good site that actually has cool news?
Pirating
by Philvis
Apr 2nd, 2009
09:34:57 AM
While I don't condone pirating movies, Hollywood is really pushing people towards it. When my wife and I went to see the Witch Mountain movie at the theater last week, I about had a coronary. $9.75 for a movie and the matinee was something like $7.50. That is simply ridiculous. On top of that, you are bent over if you want something to eat or drink inside, but that is the way it has always been. Without tent pole movies, I definitely see a decline in movie going from people this year. The economy is conducive to an over priced ticket on something that might end up being shit to begin with. You've got two alternatives to paying out the ass; simply wait a few months and rent it at redbox for $1 or pirate it. The only bootlegs I will watch are the DVD quality ones. I'm not tech savy enough to find the ones on the bit torrent places. Damn you Hollywood!
I get it. I get the anger, the fear, the cries of foul
by gotilk
Apr 2nd, 2009
09:36:24 AM
.. but let's face it. If word is bad on this baby, word is bad. And not ONE.. not one of the same people that would buy the word of mouth based on first weekend reviews... would reject the same early word based on a work print that leaked to the "pirate" community (as inaccurate a tag it is). Same would be said for potential ticket purchasers. People who will not pay, WILL NOT PAY. People who will... WILL. It's not that hard to understand and I know most of you are pretty sharp. A lot of producers of content don't realize, after almost a century of this sort of thing happening, that THEY do not decide how the business model changes. Consumers do. Don't go making up lies because you don't like the way your favorite content is re-valued in the marketplace. And that's what this is. The value of entertainment is shifting and it's making a LOT of people nervous, angry...reactionary.

Anyone realize that TV viewing is UP?? Truth. And this.. now.. with all the "piracy" that's "destroying the industry". Pheh.

The fact that I'm not downloading this film is not based on HONOR. I reserve that type of thing for PEOPLE who would be honorable to ME, not gigantic media companies who could give a shit if I live or die and would gladly take every penny from me for humming the Jaws theme in my fucking head.

(and that IS what we are talking about here, so stick your self-rightious bullshit about INDIE studios right up your ass.. if the local 35 screen theatre would bother screening ONE indie flick a month instead of Harry Potter 11 on 15 screens, maybe we'd have an indie film industry to speak of that makes things other than period dramas a shot on video coming out films by young gay filmmakers... not that there's anything wrong with that... but you KNOW what I mean)

No. I don't like to download films because ..
1. I don't want to deal with the legal teams having tea with my ISP and deciding whether I should have the "honor" of paying them 100 plus bucks a month for a connection I have grown to appreciate for it's reliability and hands-off nature.
2. I like to see FILMS I WANT TO SEE on a screen. And usually do not bother DOWNLOADING something I have no interest in seeing unless it's unavailable in the states.
3. The quality is shit.

And if you're a hypocritical little bitch, it's enough for YOU to know it. Confess or don't. Whatever. But some of you just ARE. It would be nice if you'd be man enough to admit it. Nice for you. I frankly don't give a fuck.

Like I said. I get it. I also "get" that people have always predictably attacked what they don't understand and especially what they don't know how to compete with. The good news?? 3d is coming in a BIG way and studios are going to have no problem putting asses back in seats once the word of mouth gets around about that and films like Avatar are diddling our optic nerves.
they Snikt it
by nightfalls
Apr 2nd, 2009
09:38:36 AM
nope im gonna watch the real movie on the big screen with a tray of natchos
"WOLVERINE IS BETTER THAN DAKR KNIGHT"
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 2nd, 2009
09:39:00 AM
BWA ...
.... HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAA ...
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 2nd, 2009
09:39:31 AM
.... HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAA ...
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 2nd, 2009
09:39:32 AM
.... HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAA ...
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 2nd, 2009
09:39:32 AM
can't believe fox
by TheExterminator
Apr 2nd, 2009
09:39:34 AM
has the brass neck to issue that statement...fucking ridiculous. bunch of cunts the lot of them
...HAHAHAHA HOO!!! HOOOO!!!! HHAA!!!
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 2nd, 2009
09:40:01 AM
MY, UH, FRIEND TRIED TO DOWNLOAD WOLVERINE
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 2nd, 2009
09:41:42 AM
and instead got Underworld in Spanish. That ain't right.
Pirated crap
by PowerRing
Apr 2nd, 2009
09:47:23 AM
I have been to countries (recently in fact) that freely sell pirated copies for about $5.00 per dvd. Even the best um "quality" still sucks. But who cares? I want to see this movie (and others) complete, on the big screen, with full surround cranked. I want the movie to be an experience, not just some crappy, blurry copy so I can see it early. That's like saying "Wait until May and get a new car, or we will get one now and it's just a rusted out frame."

by Don_Logan
Apr 2nd, 2009
09:48:02 AM
kick your fucken ASS! i want you off the fuckin set you prick! no dont just be sorry! think for one fuckin second. the THE FUCK. ARE. YOU. DOING!? are you professional or not?! do i fuckin walk around and rip tha... no shut the fuck up bruce, do i wa... NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!! DONT SHUT ME UP. am i gonna walk around and rip your fuckin lights down? in the middle of a scene? than why the FUCK are you walking right through, oh DA DA DA DA like this in the background? what the FUCK is it with you? what dont you fucking understand?! you got any fuckin idear about 'hey it's fucking distracting! having somebody walking in behind bryce in the middle of the fucking scene. gimme a FUCKIN ANSWER!!! what dont you get about it!?! OOOOH!!!! GOOOOOOD FOR YOU!!! and how was it? i hope it was fucking good because its useless now isnt it? FUCK sake man youre amateur. MCG you have fucking to say to this prick? well someboddy should be fuckin watching him and keeping an eye on him. this is the 2nd time he doesnt give a FUCK!!!!! about what is going on behind the camera. alright? i'm trying to fucking do a scene here and i'm going " why the fuck is shane walking in there? what is he doing there?" you understand my mind is not in the scene if you're doing that. stay off the fuckin set man. fuck sake. alright lets go again. no lets not take a fuckin minute LETS GO AGAIN!!! and lets not have you fucking walking in . can i have time to put this on please? youre unbelievable man. you're unfuckinbelievable. number of times you're strolling and fucking around in the background. i never had a DP behave like this. UHHHH you dont fucking understand what its like working with actors. thats what that is. THATS WHAT THAT IS MAN i'm tellin you. i'm not asking i'm telling you. you wouldnt have done that otherwise..... i'm gonna FUCKING kick your FUCKIN ASS IF YOU DONT SHUT UP FOR A SECOND!!! alright? i'm gonna, you want me to go trash your lights? you want me to FUCKING TRASH EM? then why are you trashing my scene? you ARE trashing my scene!!! you do it one more fucking time and i aint walking on this set if youre still hired. i'm fucking serious, you're a nice guy, you're a nice guy but i dont fucking cut it when you bullshit and fuckin around like this on set. yeah you might get it. he doesnt fucking get it. you might HE. DOES. NOT. GET IT. no i dont need any fuckin walking. he needs to stop walkin. i aint the one walkin. get tom and put this back on, lets go again. seriously man you an me we're fucking done professionally. fuckin ass.
I WOULD NEVER PIRATE A CHRISTIAN BALE MOVIE
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 2nd, 2009
09:51:46 AM
I like my balls just where they are, thank you!
piracy
by stupidmop
Apr 2nd, 2009
09:57:53 AM
I still can't belive that this has all come down to a useless debate about piracy when a major geek movie just leaked and no one is discussing its pros and cons...I'll start: Deadpool = good to start/terrible at end Liv Schrieber(sp?)=awesome WillIam(fuck the spelling on that black eyed peas suck use your real name asshole the rock did it)=actually can act Dominic Monaghan=great as always Jackman=he is wolverine adamantium bullets/ending=poopoo despite the ending i thought the movie was just as good as the first two and will deffinitely see it in theatres
Mr. Bale would reach through the internet
by Stuntcock Mike
Apr 2nd, 2009
10:03:09 AM
and shake your hands for downloading this film.
Gigs have never been so sold out and overpriced
by theplant
Apr 2nd, 2009
10:07:40 AM
Moron who complaint about no being music stores left, you are a douchebag, never, ever have been gigs so costly, and they always sold out you know why douchebag ? Because downloading have multiplied the audience tenfold.
I watched most of the Wolverine workprint...
by Dhaemon
Apr 2nd, 2009
10:07:50 AM
Since I knew about the God-Aweful plot, I knew I wasn't going to see it ni theatres. Downloading it saved me a $10 movie ticket. Would have I gotten a refund after watching the entire movie and not liking it? Nope. This is why I downloaded it. It wasn't a movie worth a $10 Movie ticket admission. In fact it was barely worth a download. Make better movies and I wouldn't download them. Look at Rambo. I watched it in theatre, bought the Blu-Ray movie. Never downloaded it. Because I loved the movie.
Gambit
by stupidmop
Apr 2nd, 2009
10:17:00 AM
I can't believe i forgot about gambit as a kid he was my favorite. When he started fighting wolvie I was happy as hell but since when does he have the ability to scale walls like spidey i know he was acrobatic but damn hopefully it will look better with the finished fx. On a side note has anyone noticed that this site is a lot slower since this leaked I have to wait a few seconds for my typing to appear in the comment box makes spel checking hard
BEAKS: IS SHANE BUTTHURL ONE OF YOUR FRIENDS BY ANY CHANCE?
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 2nd, 2009
10:22:51 AM
Do you fucking understand where I'm coming from with this?
IS IT PIRACY IF I CAM'D MY TELEVISION?
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 2nd, 2009
10:24:24 AM
Anyone know the legalities of this?
IF MR. BALE REACHED THROUGH MY INTERNET
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 2nd, 2009
10:25:29 AM
I'd do something else with his hand.

And no, I'm not gay.

Why no response from Harry?
by UnCoolNews
Apr 2nd, 2009
10:30:36 AM
I think it's a legitimate question to ask why it was OK for Harry to watch a pirated version of Attack of the Clones but not OK for anyone else to watch a pirated version of Wolverine. Why no answer?
So you guys post every email review sent to you
by Faust_8
Apr 2nd, 2009
10:41:10 AM
Maybe you could just not post the reviews sent to you for this 'work print' and not say a word.
Beaks saying go download it but not saying it
by Faust_8
Apr 2nd, 2009
10:42:10 AM
anyone think of that
So Gotik...
by DoctorWho?
Apr 2nd, 2009
10:47:45 AM
You're saying your code of ethics or "honor" changes on a dime depending on who you're dealing with?

That's kinda lame.

So, when's the AICN-FOX oral orgy taking place?
by GaiustheBrave
Apr 2nd, 2009
10:48:17 AM
Jesus Christ. This WAS just an ass-kissing ploy to get into their good graces. And, FOX's threats about being able to not only trace the sources but the downloads is just bullshit. Anyway, I know you're busy lubing up or practicing stretching your mouth, so I won't take any more of your time.
I saw a 'work print' of Hostel
by Faust_8
Apr 2nd, 2009
10:51:11 AM
at Toronro Film Festival with Eli Roth saying the same thing, fx is not complete, music will be changed etc This made me think it would be a very raw film and I would have to see it again when it was finished. When I saw it again in the theaters the only difference I noticed was the close up screen shots of pictures on the cell phone. Wow, major plot turning point. Was the music changed, I don't even remember. If your work print is signifigantly different from your final print, you have shit to begin with. The 14 minutes are probably being added because some suit thinks it will enhanse the film going experience, or was shot later on. Who knows. Who cares actually.
This movie is not good...
by Timelord-2112
Apr 2nd, 2009
10:58:32 AM
I only watch downloaded movies, I go to a theatre once or twice a year for a movie of the caliber of Watchmen but for all the crap movies it's just as easy for me to watch a not so great copy a week or two before it's in theatres or the day it's out. This movie is perfect for fans of X3. Characters are mostly wrong, effects are good and of course Hugh Jackman is Wolverine. Liev was good as Sabretooth and some of the other characters (as crappily as they are written) are done well but I was hoping for something on par with X2.
New Response From Warner Bros!
by The_Man_Behind_The_Curtain
Apr 2nd, 2009
10:59:16 AM
"Ha ha ha ha ha. P.S Ha ha ha."
This is one of the most interesting talkbacks on AICN
by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS
Apr 2nd, 2009
11:05:53 AM
I'm enjoying reading all of your comments. It's better than "AVATAR WILL FUCK YOUR EYEBALLS!" blah blah blah.

Keep your opinions (and insults of FOX) coming!

downloaded it...just not very good
by Rupee88
Apr 2nd, 2009
11:07:16 AM
I wasn't going to see it at the theater anyway.
Dhaemon
by JonJonB
Apr 2nd, 2009
11:09:58 AM
You've made a slight logical error in your "make better movies" argument. Can you figure out what it is?
DO THE RIGHT THING HERE, DONT PIRATE
by vorlonkosh
Apr 2nd, 2009
11:21:25 AM
this movie!! The economy is bad enough without you jack-asses sabotaging the income of the people involved with this release. Just because you have the ability to do it, doesn't mean you should. I hope they catch all of you little ass-pirates and fine the shit out of you.
FOX
by robert.thekilled
Apr 2nd, 2009
11:21:41 AM
I loathe FOX. This movie is horrible on all fronts. F/X can not save it (ahh the motive of one particular studio out for a quick dollar at our expense...again). The film is insulting to MARVEL and readers of the MARVEL Universe. Any other studio and I would have said "No" to a peak. (read - do the right thing). But it is FOX and fool me once...
I'll worry about so-called "runaway" productions ...
by Royston Lodge
Apr 2nd, 2009
11:29:27 AM
I'll worry about how so-called "runaway" productions affect workers in California when every single one of those workers stops buying any product whatsover that is manufactured outside of the State of California.
On another note...
by Royston Lodge
Apr 2nd, 2009
11:30:50 AM
...people should pay for the content they consume. Regardless of where it's produced and/or manufactured.
"honorable"?!?
by Rupee88
Apr 2nd, 2009
11:31:05 AM
How is making a shitty film like X3 honorable in any way? This Wolverine movie is just another money grab without any real concern for a good script or anything other than making a quick tentpole and cashing in. I laugh at Fox's lost revenue on this one.
DoctorWho?
by gotilk
Apr 2nd, 2009
11:36:10 AM
No. You weren't paying close enough attention. I was saying my honor, not a code of ethics. Honor is for people, not cold, huge entities that claim to represent people. As far as ethics go, it's a branch of PHILOSOPHY, which fluctuates and is DEEPLY effected by the current state of the world, it's overall particular set of values and what it considers moral. It's in the realm of opinion and there is NO concensus other than what we can observe through action. Clearly, having seen the numbers, you sir may (MAY) be in the minority. I think the best way to narrow it down is to think of other things that don't make sense anymore. Like... drug laws? What adults put into their own bodies became a moral issue many years ago, inappropriately, mostly based on fear and misinformation spread by people in positions of power unwilling to educate themselves on the truth about various drugs. Instead they lumped it ALL together and excused themselves from REASON. (see: the very real difference between a download and a DVD for sale on a blanket on a Chinese street) Now, because of the early MUST DO SOMETHING NOW.. THINK OF THE CHIIIIIILDREN!! DO NOT STOP AND THINK!! reasonless reasoning, families are torn apart, the state is spending HUGE amounts of tax dollars we could use elsewhere, a huge percentage of the hard working, just trying to get to the end of the month population are considered criminals because they want a way to relax for a while.

As technology moves forward at increasingly staggering rates, this sort of thing is going to get harder and harder to enforce without destroying fundamental privacy and freedom. It's never going to just go away. It's not just the old "information wants to be free" thing.. or "remix culture"... or any of the popular reasons given. It's just the reality we face. There's a whole generation younger than either of us who know nothing BUT free culture, Internet culture. We can argue until our throats bleed and these kids will have already won the argument by consensus. You see, morality isn't written in stone. No matter what our judeo christian brothers and sisters say. It's an evolution. It's liquid. Like it or not. People have felt morally justified to enslave, discriminate, dehumanize... and as we move forward, this justification progresses and what used to be right is wrong. What WE used to think was wrong ends up being right. And there's a LONG history dating all the way back to minstrels and the earliest printing presses of intellectual property being forced to evolve in the face of new technology and innovations in communications and shipping. The printing press, the player piano, the phonographic record, the radio, jukeboxes, TV, cassette tape recorders, the VCR...

.. and now the Internet. And the DVR. And.... whatever comes next. Holographic storage and ubiquitous anonymous, encrypted ad-hoc wireless networks..no central hubs... just all the data, everywhere, anonymously.. that's my prediction. And someone will want to stop it. But just the same way the Internet has revolutionized the world economically, there will be victims of this revolution. And the victims will ALWAYS CRY FOUL AND SHAME and puff up their chests with rightious morality. They will testify in hearings about ____ destroying the fabric of society. They always have and they always will. I just hope someday we can EVOLVE to recognize that bullshit when it rears it's head. Someday. Maybe if we become smarter... you know.. just generally.
i think...
by Don_Logan
Apr 2nd, 2009
11:39:45 AM
that we're losing focus here, not just on this talkback, but in general here at AICN. I tried an hour ago to point out where this should all be headed, but only got a few bites. there is ONE thing, and ONE thing only that matters in the grand scheme of things, whether it be a leaked, shitty movie, or the state of the economy: this world is going to shit because the focus has shifted drastically from Bale. wake the fuck up. "OHHHHHH, GOOOOOD", you may say. but i ask YOU, "and how is it?". well, let's just say i hope it was good, because it's fucking useless now.
If it's good, people will go see it.
by shitstorm23
Apr 2nd, 2009
11:41:08 AM
It's pretty plain and simple for all you fuckholes screaming this will hurt the economy and people's jobs, blah blah blah. I saw The Dark Knight twice in the theater, downloaded the solid cam that came out and the dvdrip a little later. Went and saw it again with a friend at IMAX. Still went out and bought the DVD and had to go buy the 2 disc edition so I could put the digital copy on my iphone. If it's good, pirating does not negatively impact how well a movie will do.
Am i really stealing?
by sho_me_da_money
Apr 2nd, 2009
11:41:09 AM
I've had enough of these assholes claiming I am stealing something. The person who leaked this movie did the stealing and crime. All i'm doing is downloading it offa site that has won their day in court. Im a poor guy and I cannot afford to watch movies on the big screen. As crazy as that may sound, It is true. We live in a Government owned home, we live of benefits, we work for crap wages to make ends meet and we don't get the chance to treat ourselves to a movie. The day one a do-gooder decides to help me out and pay for my tickets, is the day I will stop downloading and watching movies.
JonJonB
by Dhaemon
Apr 2nd, 2009
11:42:44 AM
Whats that? Make movies takes money? Well, production companies front the money upfront. Hoping to expect a return. If they make less money due to downloads, it's because the movie was most likely crap. Listen, I'll go to a overpriced resturaunt, if the food is good enough. If it's not worth it, I ain't buying it. But if a chef was out back, passing out some of this food for me to try for free, I would certainly see if it tastes good. If it sucks, no shirt off my back, if it's great, I'll end up paying for a meal there.
Leaked on purpose
by Donkey_Lasher
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:03:04 PM
Definitely. And now Fox are playing their hand just like they planned. Major sympathy from Hollywood. Next they'll be telling us that they have lost Millions and the judges in copyright cases will be hardening their resolve. I figure that this action alone will result in a few more Torrent sites being shut down. How convenient.

Merrick just posted a bootleg of an entire tv show
by drturing
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:03:12 PM
in the I am Legend director thread. You've got to be fucking kidding me. He actually embedded an entire bootleg of a history channel documentary.
I know why we download movies...
by Dhaemon
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:05:05 PM
If you don't like a product, you could always return it. That's the way it works. However with Movies and Music, you cannot return them once they are open. Due to the fact, the stores think you just ended up copying off the movie and returning the original. Which I can understand. However..... I truly do think that if stores like HMV, Best Buy, Futureshop and Walmart had a proper return policy for Movies and Music(Within 15 days opened or Unopened). Less movies would be downloaded and I feel that less people would be willing to return the movie back if all they were concerned about was burning it off. Just my take on it.
DID SOME SHITASS JUST INSULT MY HANDLE?
by COCKNASTY_BUTTSTANK
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:05:27 PM
Gaius, don't MAKE me smack yo mouf.
This is another great way of thinking about this..
by gotilk
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:10:07 PM
Imagine a machine that can make anything. Like a replicator. It can make perfect food, perfect working machines and electronics. It makes these things by grabbing and manipulating atoms from the world around us. The air, or as some used to call it.. the ether. Nanotech at it's ultimate, the replicator. Something from nothing but self generated energy and self-replicating nano-scale robotics. When a family makes a perfect dinner... An "out of work" family in a home they built with their replicator... do they own Martha Stewart for the recipe? When the kid makes a bike so he can ride to school, would it be necessary for him to pay a fee to Schwinn for the basic but modified design? What about the TV they made? Should Philips get a monthly fee for use of the design? When the world has eliminated scarcity, I really hope you guys are not in charge and it all happens after you're too old to care anymore. Because you'd hand the world over to intellectual property rights and copyright/patent lawyers, corporate "individuals", lawmakers and thought police. You will never , ever live in a post-scarcity world unless you embrace advances. You would invite utopia over for the night and kill it in it's sleep for the 5 dollars in it's pockets.

Just because you're USED to a way of monetizing ideas and information, does NOT mean it's the only way... the right way.. or the way it will be forever. Matter of fact, history disagrees with you and will generally shove your antiquated ass out of the way for the next big idea. Like it.. or not. Do any of you honestly think that if the major studios can no longer afford to make these huge, over-prices pieces of (usually) crap, someone won't be there waiting with the next BIG idea to take their places? DO NONE OF YOU pay attention to the history of the modern world? People and companies will be lining up to take their place with a better idea. And it will take PEOPLE to make these ideas real. Should we have subsidized the pinball machine industry? I miss seeing new ones, but enough people do NOT miss them enough to put them out of business. How about steamboats? Pneumatic tubes for moving documents? Those poor mechanical adding machine workers. What a disservice we did to them. I know what I'm saying probably seems radical, but it's just speculative. Of course we're nowhere near even truly self replicating nanobots, let alone a replicator. But when it does happen, and it will... will we sell Utopia out for a LEGACY patent and copyright economy?? This moral take on file sharing is kind of like the great grandson of what I'm proposing. The value of intellectual property is illusory. It's an illusion we've all signed up for... but here's the clencher... we signed up for it.. past tense. It's not permanent, this illusion. The hole in the stage floor is clearly visible. We're just in the first generation of audience who sees it clearly. And the next audience won't be buying a ticket. They know the trick.
Dead Pool was good...
by rudeking
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:14:40 PM
Well they did get "Dead Pool" Warren tonally right at the beginning. I am looking foward to it in theaters since it is obviously not finished yet.
Have refund policy's at Movie Theatres
by Dhaemon
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:15:27 PM
Even after they watched the entire movie. Do it on good faith, try it for a few months and see how it works.
It's cheaper than a test screening...
by Human Tornado
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:18:20 PM
I'm just sayin'...
if I'd downloaded it, then my verdict would have been
by Cedar_Room
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:20:59 PM
that it was OK, not nearly as awful as some people here have made out. The first 30 mins or so had some good dialouge, some good action and it looked set to be a worthy entry into the X Men series. Things started to go downhill with the Gambit fight in the alleyway. The ending felt rushed, and they really seemed to miss a trick with the way they handled Deadpool. Not that I've read the comics so don't know how it compares, but at the start he's introduced as a pretty cool character who disappears for the rest of the film only to re-appear as a zombie who has none of the interesting traits he had at the start (the wisecracks, the samurai sword spinning). All I know is as an X Men film, it was definitely better than X3 and and those extra 15 minutes may make it pretty decent.

Yeah - that would be my verdict if I'd seen the film, but obviously I would never download a film like that because piracy infects babies with AIDS.

ALL YOUR MOVIES ARE BELONG TO US
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:22:18 PM
Step away from the meat!!!!
IF I DOWNLOADED THE WOMEN AND MADE MY DICK SHRIVEL
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:25:05 PM
is that stealing?
Thank god this will kill any more X-Men Origins movies!
by p0llk4t
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:32:40 PM
Some of you want more X-Men Origins and Wolverine movies? Why? Can't you be satisfied with your comic books?

Hopefully this and Watchmen's low box office will kill most comic movies! Comic book movies run about 90% unwatchable shit.

Very few of these movies turn out well, yet every comic fanboy want's their special pet book made into a movie. Green Lantern? Are you fucking kidding me?
Pffffffff.....2: The hound and the fox.
by Samplelord
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:37:16 PM
Well....watched the workprint, which was had good picture quality, unfinished cgi, temp score...ya know the drill. The flick is worse than X3... Some of the actors try to bring something more to the table but the script/storyline is just one the dumbest concepts played out on the screen. 15 more minutes, complete cgi, original score and such will not change this shallow, uninspired movie one bit.... The movie opens and you think.."thats not have bad...". Then the story begins and it fall's apart. They have changed the original comic book concept of these characters so much that it becomes just pathetic. And stealing/copying stuff from other flick/tv shows... Sad, sad, sad... Piranjacy... Harry, don't be gay... I watch all new flicks streaming wise. If I like a movie, I'll buy the DVD. If I'm realy diggin that certain flick, I'll watch it at the flickhouse. So please...get of that high horse, your breakin that poor things back, and don't be so gay... In no way am I disrespecting Homosexuals, I some friends from them parts... And they would call Harry gay too...
EXCELLENT RETORT TO DOCWHO, GOTLIK
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:38:03 PM
You can't stop the music!!!
gotilk
by JumpinJehosaphat
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:39:54 PM
Well said. But, I love to advocate the devil, so consider this: A major picture studio likes what you've written and is willing to pay you hundreds of thousands of dollars for that idea. Do you take the money, and become part of the past, or do you stick to your progressive guns and spurn the income, yelling "information wants to be free!" What do you do? WHAT DO YOU DO?!
Re: Fox and WOLVERINE
by ArmageddonProductions
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:41:36 PM
Er ... nobody else thinks Fox didn't ALLOW this to happen? So, if the movie tanks (and I'm sure it will), they can blame it on that rascally workprint being released a month beforehand, ruining it for everybody? Or that this is great publicity, especially garnering interest in people who might want to compare the workprint to the final product, or just by virtue of having WOLVERINE suddenly be front page news in every available outlet a month prior to release? And before we get all weepy over piracy and people losing money, bear this in mind: the production is INSURED, just like every other studio production, and this is a perfectly valid claim.
TAKE THE MONEY, GOTLIK!!!
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:42:44 PM
Cash is king.
Gotik, you covered quite a bit there ...
by DoctorWho?
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:45:49 PM
...most of which I agree with. Of course all of this evolves, chances, shifts etc. as you say. That is a given...NOTHING is static, even human sexuality which many think is fixed before birth is subject to influences throughout life. But just because MANY cultures considered slavery...for example... to be "acceptable" or the norm NEVER made it moral. It was always wrong just like rape and murder.

Your take on information and technology and how it is shrared and the "War on Drugs" nonsense etc. is correct but a complete non sequitur to the morality angle. And I'm not Christian...so the boderline bigoted remark is ALSO a non sequitur because this has to do with morality NOT religion...why would you not include Muslim or Buddhist in that comment or just the word RELIGION? Do you think this is exclusive to Christians? I'm sure plenty of atheists and agnostics may refuse to d-load a movie for ethical reasons don't you?

So what would stop you from shoplifting the Wolverine DVD when it hits store shelves? The much higher probability of you getting caught. Fine. So you do it in the comfort of your own home. There are some people in this world who don't do many FAR worse things simply because they fear getting caught... NOT because of any moral code or values. I don't NOT steal because I may get caught.

At the end of the day it's your choice...it surely is not a major crime. I just don't feel I'm "sticking it to the man" by getting a movie for free that I can rent for 3 bucks which is no sweat of my back.

WHAT KIND OF IDIOT RENTS A MOVIE FOR $3?
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:50:53 PM
Redbox is $1, and you get 2 for 1 e-mail promos all the time. And I only use it when Netflix has my selection on wait. When you pay $3 for something you can get for 50 cents, you are stealing from yourself. Think about that.
I ONLY DOWNLOAD MOVIES MADE BY INFIDELS
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:53:57 PM
That's how I live with myself.
Rights and usage...
by Darth Macchio
Apr 2nd, 2009
12:54:02 PM
Did you guys know that there was a growing legal curiosity within the asshole catacombs of the RIAA to charge 'no cover/door charge' clubs for playing copyrighted music? I don't have a link to the article but it was about how their initial tirades into prosecuting music piracy during the Napster bs was so effective at getting them 'pre-won lawsuits' and how, in some cases, the government was going out of it's way to protect a private corporation, that they were getting a little "uppity" and were looking into the possibility of charging clubs a usage fee for playing music on nights without a cover/door charge. It also spoke of charging 'cover' bands with rights usage violations for performing copyrighted songs at a cost (door/cover) without permission and without paying the RIAA (you can buy Dark Knight on blu and have your friends over to watch but if you charge them to watch it, you just broke the copyright law, etc).

I read about another story where they settled out of court for the entire life savings of an 19 year old kid (it amounted to just under $8000 he had saved for college) who had illegally dl'd some mp3's.

None of that is something I've got linked so it's possible I'm not remembering it 100% accurate but the info is out there...

That said, I'm not saying piracy is good or even that the industry deserves it...but I will say this...FUCK the industry (RIAA/MPAA). FUCK YOU. You assholes are bereft of creativity and just because you once facilitated the creative media of others does not mean you're fucking owed a thing. And it doesn't mean you're perpetually relevant either! YOU are not artistic and you haven't created dick except more dickless middle-aged puffy robo-sari-men like yourselves. Now you seem to think you deserve more than the artist and more than the fans and basically more than the guy in the sterile office next to you. And holy shit but who are we to think you shouldn't eh?

There's a right way to do things and a legal way...sometimes those ways align...sometimes they don't. These pricks almost always follow the law but they NEVER do the right thing. Not for the creative talent and not for the fans. There are exceptions but the rule is these dicks make the most coin and have most of the power and ZERO artistic talent and ZERO artistic creativity. I realize the process is still necessary but how these overblown, gluttonous "middle men" got to be so intrinsically necessary and so overtly controlling just pisses me off to no end. They artificially control far too much and they offer zero creative input. For that reason alone, I'd morally side with the pirates. As it is, it makes me sad that pirate or not, the one who will always loose out are the ones creating this stuff in the first place. The musicians, the writers, the painters, the artists always loose. Whether we pirate or not. The majority of that reason lies solely at the sticky hands and feet of the RIAA/MPAA machine.

Now, evolving technology looks to make these assclowns obsolete in music but obviously not in movies unless private citizens go back to being major investors (yes, I know this still happens but can you name one big budget flim that had just one or 2 'rich guy/girl' investors lately?).

Sorry to rant but human beings possessed of great talent are the ones who actually define us as a species. Do you think all this technology matters? Money, cars? It's a means to an end. Newer and better ways of doing the same shit we've always been doing. It's nice but not what matters. What matters is what we had to say and the forms in which we said them...in music, art, motion pictures, etc. Not money and not cars and 12 room mansions and offshore accounts. That's fleeting bullshit that only means something to you and those who envy you. When we're all dead and gone what you own means exactly dick; what you create? Well, that's another story!

And the fact that bullshit technology and greedy fuckin devouring blackhole human beings have to get their grubby fucking hands all over shit that, at the end of the day, they just tool from one side of the yard to the other, is frustrating to me. You're obsolete, assholes. You're not really needed and within a generation you'll be not only unneeded but an actual impediment to art and music.

Wake up and smell the smellin salts suzie! And then quietly go fuck yourselves.

For all the exceptional others who keep the artist and the art first and foremost while managing to be honorable facilitators in a stinking shit stew of lecherous asswipes...may you have the eternal blessings of the imagination of all things in the Universe. If only it was you...then in all likelihood piracy, as we know it, wouldn't exist.

TAKING THE LIFE SAVINGS FROM A KID
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:04:14 PM
That's seriously fucked up. We need to do a Chris Brown on the RIAA.
So is Wolverine Elektra Bad?
by ZoeFan
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:04:21 PM
Or is it worse?
Here.
by Grrrr....
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:08:01 PM
http://tinyurl.com/b3rusp
THE RIAA HAS BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR INCREASED VIOLENCE IN OUR SOCI
by ChaimBenSexyback
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:11:29 PM
because of their proliferation of gangsta rap. Who weeps for their victims? Who pays for the damage done to our society, and the generations to come? Will the RIAA compensate women for their degraded image and stature? Fuck the Man. Fuck him up the ASSS!!!!!
Amen Darth Macchio
by DarfurOnTheRocks
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:17:11 PM
Why does not Harry bitch how these movie companies want to control our ownership of things that we purchased. The DRM issue is a joke. Although we pay for media, they are telling us what we can do with it...... Videogame companies want us not to be able to resell our games after we are done with them...... That is fair? Long live AXXO, DS, PSP, and X360 hacks. As long as one-sided contracts exist where an Internet company can terminate "unlimited usage" whenever they want, or Apple can control where we install OS X that we purchased, etc... piracy will thrive...
JumpinJehosaphat
by gotilk
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:17:36 PM
I take the money while it's there. It's not about destroying the past, it's about acceptance and looking forward when the time comes. If the industry dies (as we know it), it will NOT be about just downloading. It'll be about something else demanding our entertainment dollars OR the emergence of technology that makes the creation of major motion picture quality content massively cheaper. Which we're seeing the beginnings of now with HD footage from consumer cameras, fitted with different glass and modified. And it's coming dangerously close to film look now. Here's just one example:

http://tinyurl.com/dhydlx

The "revolution" will do fine while we still take paychecks. As the discussed "industries" evolve, selling out will never be an issue again. It may end up being the only WAY to monetize.
(look at all the indie music in commercials all the way from those darlings of Montreal going "outback tonight" while maintaining their indie cred to the .. what is it now.. hundreds of relatively unknown artists in mac ads)
Similar things will have to happen (and have with product placement) with the film biz. And it doesn't have to hurt or stand out(ET eating Reeses Pieces like they're little candy coated balls of heroin). But smarter people than you and I will always find new ways to make money off content. When money isn't an issue anymore, can you imagine entertainment being WORSE when the only motivation is storytelling without budget limits? The only obstacles being finding other people willing to help bring your idea to fruition? Sounds like a better world of entertainment to me.
SINCE WHEN DO LEGAL ISSUES STOP AINT IT PIRATED NEWS?
by tailhook
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:20:48 PM
This site has been adament in its support from Day 1 of reviewing pirated material under first amendment rights. Why the hypocritical flipflop now? Also.. considering this WORKPRINT was test screened for a live audience in Chicago yesterday(a coworker saw it exactly that way and considering the timing it is prob where someone Capone'd a camera and got the workprint on the net to begin with), the public viewing should easily make it fair game to the site. To quote the Joker... 'What Happened? Did your Balls drop off?'
Wolverine copy
by NavinJohnson
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:21:53 PM
Hey man,, I watched it,,and I'll watch it again in theaters. I gotta tell ya though, I first came to this website when someone had a pic of the cyclops visor for the first Xmen movie. It leaked, you guys posted it, and that was badass. Now you fuckers are belly aching about how you're gonna ban talkbackers for talking back about the movie !! Fucking amazing ! You guys sold out and dont even know it. Fuck Fox. It's movie news, this is a movie news website, you print it. It's not like its nuclear secrets,, dont give me that journalistic integrity bullshit. You guys are trading integrity for access. Good luck with that. I'll be over at Film Drunk where they at least have the balls to call a shitty movie shitty. Massaworm,,, ur not included in that last remark. You can still call a turd a turd,, even if it offends a studio. Later Fuckers
Fuck Avatar. That's going to be torrent paradise.
by Stuntcock Mike
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:23:43 PM
Speaking of AVATAR...
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:33:11 PM
...the sound you just heard was the cocking of Jim Cameron's shotgun followed by this very terse speech:

"Anyone who leaks my movie...is gonna answer directly to me. Do you hear me, maggots?!"

Dont Mess with The Cameron
by ZoeFan
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:36:55 PM
He's a BAD MOFO!!!
BSB...$3, $1, whatever
by DoctorWho?
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:42:06 PM
Blockbuster online...so I either order a slew per month and and get a deal or order one and pay $19.95 for it. Ouch. Use or lose.
Right....
by elwood_p_dud
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:43:52 PM
so you lot are saying Wolverine sucks floppy donkey dick then? In all honesty who couldn't see this kind of thing coming. Fox is a shitastic place to make a movie anymore, with that Rothman douche bag and all.
Gotik, again I point you towards China
by Darth_Inedible
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:46:20 PM
According to your reasoning China with it's non-existent intellectual property laws is the paradise where this "next big thing" could be taking place right now, but what do we see instead? What happened in Hong Kong after the Chinese took over and piracy skyrocketed? NOTHING replaced the previous model of film production. That cultural richness was lost down a rathole of greed. The infrastructure is merely kept supported by the State. The vast majority of money spent on filmed entertainment in China never makes it to the actual creators, but supports a huge parasitic industry and various criminal organizations. The Chinese software industry should also be flourishing by your logic but instead it's practically non-existent, dwarfed along with it's film industry by Indian software and films thanks to India's greater respect for IP.
stupidmop
by Argentino
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:49:25 PM
I liked Gambit too, but hated how in the scene where Wolverine punches him uncouncious in order to fight Victor, he reapears minutes later running in some rooftops from far away. Did he wake up, run a couple of blocks, go up a builing, and run back to the same spot to (for some reason) stop the fight between Wolvie and Victor? Somebody should start talking about the movie and stop the piracy debate that's going nowhere. We might as well start it up, stupidmop. I thought the movie was way worse than X3, wich at least had some fun moments. This one reminded me of Elektra in a lot of ways. I loved the cameo at the end, thou. I found most new characters boring. The Blob didn't do anything but box badly, Dominic Monagahan's character was lame. I really like the actor, and I thought he was gonna play Beak (that birdy guy that can't even fly) so it was one more disapointment. And why did they choose a teleporter? After Nightcrawler, a black guy with a cowboy hat is just lame. Oh, and are Emma Frost and Silver Fox sisters or did I misunderstood something?
Harry was offered a vast fortune to sell
by emeraldboy
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:49:47 PM
this site to the highest bidder and he said no. I find harrys animated gif revolting. If all this stuff is true about wolverine. fox's fuck U to the critics has not worked. When this gets released this is going to get carved up. Fox never forgave Harry knowles for his review of Rollerball. that movie stank. Harry said so in no uncertain terms. Fox went purple with rage. We gave you a copy of the phantom menace. we scratch ur back and we hoped you would scratch ours. so the thinking went. you didnt so you can fuck yourself. Harry has many alias on this site. so when someone said they dont like x-men 3. I know its Harry. I havent forgetton his vendetta against that movie. nor his stupid ego driven kiss ass nonsense that was his mission impossible 3 review. Harry though he was actually tom cruise. weirdo.
DoctorWho?
by gotilk
Apr 2nd, 2009
01:57:09 PM
Good discussion, by the way. I didn't mean to single out judeo- christian society in any way. I was just speaking to their influence on US culture. Islam and others just have not had the same kind of impact (or at least not that we are conscious of).

I don't agree that morality is static like that. I think the majority in this country saw slavery as morally justified. No man commits evil he knows is evil. (and I hate the term evil.. it's usually a point of view thing .. written in stone by whoever wins the argument by force in the end anyway) We'd like to imagine, and it makes us feel good to imagine that MOST people knew it was bad to enslave other human beings. But that's just it, they didn't consider them full human beings. Their very real, true and accepted morality justified their actions. As long as there was consensus, it was the moral truth of the moment. Absolute. WE developed as a species(and a country) and informed our consensus with experience, science and yes.. even religious morality. But hell, even rape and murder are murky. Justified here... called something else there.. In some countries a pregnant RAPED woman can be put to death for adultery. And it is morally justified by their religious beliefs. When only our religion dictates consensus and we ignore science and experience, this is the result. But that's another animal... right? How long do we have? lol

So I genuinely did not mean to direct anything negative to a particular religion or blame it solely. I meant to explain that when we bend toward ONLY accepted moralistic norms and never question the reason behind the morals, we have but one culprit and it goes by MANY names.

I don't think it's a non sequitur at all. I think that the idea of someone accepting the monetizing of creative works requires a social contract, NOT morality. Look at it from the beginning, it's always been about an agreement. The thing itself is meant to be shared. We created new and unique ways of delivering that experience. And those ways cost money, SO we agreed to give it value. I mean, we've always agreed that if something is good, it is valued. But in the "olden days" that which was horrible just didn't survive. Now as the cost of "moving" that experience (song, story, etc) goes way down, the people who control the means of moving it through the old channels want the deal to stay the same. They want us to IGNORE that they changed the rules of the game and it's not even halftime from a certain perspective.

I think social contracts are only valid if all the parties agree that they have a fair deal. Clearly, this is not the case. Oh, sure, mobile phone providers charge over a thousand dollars per MB (yeah, megaBYTE.. not gig) for txt msgs. But we all know data is CHEAP. The justification for the price of say... an LP was always about the artist (hrm..), the cost of the medium, the cost of distribution, profit for the label and profit for the retailer.

Now...
If you eliminate ONLY the medium, the physical distribution of that medium, the physical retail space and STILL pay the artist AND the label (for what .. promotion? okay).. 99 cents a song? Are you KIDDING ME? People just accept it, but a LOT of us know better. And we feel like it's breach of that social contract. And we're sick of it.

Also, to that last part of your post... a copy is not a physical object when it's just bits. I'm sure you've heard the analogy before.

MOMMY.. MOMMY... Billy stole a copy of my bicycle and I want it back NOW!!

OMGWTFBBQ!!??

What a selfish little tard that child is.

The few films I have downloaded (Battle Royale? which I now own on DVD) have been unavailable at the time or in some way changed or restricted in the US. Music? Guilty as charged. But if I like it, I want a good copy of it and will want the liner notes, art and the physical object. Call me old fashioned, but I guess in that way I am. But if it ends up sucking.... n