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About That Brian Tyler / TREK Trailer Music Debacle...

Battle Beasts are still awesome by SoylentMean	Mar 25th, 2009 11:27:29 AM
Just thought I'd share.
First by panicdawg	Mar 25th, 2009 11:28:53 AM
... and this seems like a clusterfuck...
Dammit, foiled again. by panicdawg	Mar 25th, 2009 11:29:19 AM
Oh well.
So....what? by Sardonic	Mar 25th, 2009 11:31:27 AM
How does any of this matter?
whos on first? by Groothewarrior	Mar 25th, 2009 11:32:07 AM
whats on second? i dunnos on third?
Tell us more about this Battle: Los Angeles flick by SoylentMean	Mar 25th, 2009 11:34:05 AM
That really is the only interesting bit about this article, again.
Who cares by Jodet	Mar 25th, 2009 11:35:39 AM
It's just a trailer.
I don't get it by Vern	Mar 25th, 2009 11:38:56 AM
I'm gonna go ahead and never think about it again.
So was that Giacchino on the Third Trailer? by DKT	Mar 25th, 2009 11:38:57 AM
Because that shit was killer-kahn.
So very sorry to learn that trailer #3's music isn't going to be by K00m0	Mar 25th, 2009 11:39:57 AM
I thought it was brilliant, and added a lot to my putting the film in a "must see" brain cell file, from the "wait for the DVD" brain cell where it has now returned. I wish I could afford to assign another cell for "order from On Demand", but I have precious few brain cells as it is.
I think we are back to Buffy music by brianis425	Mar 25th, 2009 11:40:25 AM
I believe that we have returned to where we started that the music is repurposed from the finale of Buffy. Who knows....
This is too funny by God's Brother	Mar 25th, 2009 11:43:38 AM
God, what a website. What. A. Website.
Dude, half my lunch hour went into reading this! by YackBacker	Mar 25th, 2009 11:44:03 AM
I need to get out more.
I'm sure that by twisted_lullaby	Mar 25th, 2009 11:51:04 AM
could've been worded/structured better. Head ache indeed.
Want to hear Giacchino's Star Trek Score? by Admiral Nelson	Mar 25th, 2009 11:52:14 AM
Or at least a small piece of it? Then go to www.startrekmovie.com, and click on "Enter the Site." The music that plays under this page is supposedly a Giacchino theme that recurs throughout the film, according to sources at Film Score Monthly. (And note: NONE of the trailers released so far feature Giacchino's music.)
Third Trailer music by Rogue16	Mar 25th, 2009 11:54:09 AM
Great for the second trailer...WHAT ABOUT THE THIRD... anyone know what music that is?
The wallace by THE WALLACE	Mar 25th, 2009 11:56:00 AM
When a nerd says this about a bunch of nerds.... take heed--- this was fucking sad. Anyone bitching and moaning and e-mailing Merrick... you are a fucking nerd.
Well whatever they used... by DC Films	Mar 25th, 2009 11:58:39 AM
...in the final full trailer is great - if it's not from the movie, then maybe that's a great pity.
In fairness to Two Steps From Hell... by captaincurse	Mar 25th, 2009 12:02:45 PM
... when I went looking for the music off trailer 2 when it was first released - I found a forum with a post from that guy Nick - who said it was based on Tyler's work.
60's Fight theme by Mr_Fancy_Pants	Mar 25th, 2009 12:10:17 PM
Repurpose that for the next trailer. Actually just play it constantly through the whole film.
Went to the Star Trek site... by seanny_d	Mar 25th, 2009 12:12:26 PM
That music is clearly Giacchino. And I really love it. I can't wait for the movie.
MERRICK-Who sent the bitchy emails? by DoctorWho?	Mar 25th, 2009 12:13:53 PM
Seems like a lot of minutae to get too pissed off about...unless it was effecting someone getting paid. Just like to know who has the atttude , you know. I'm sure only the people involved truly give a shit about something SO insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
@DKT and Rogue16 by beatowner	Mar 25th, 2009 12:14:20 PM
The music in the third trailer is also Two Steps From Hell. The cue is called Freedom Fighters.
Thanks to beatowner!!!!! by Rogue16	Mar 25th, 2009 12:15:46 PM
now if I can just find the mp3 ;-)
I must have missed the original article... by Rhuragh	Mar 25th, 2009 12:18:32 PM
But yes, Tyler's music from Children of Dune is definitely used in one of the Trek trailers. I don't know which one. Does it matter? Anyway, it is blatantly obvious to anyone who actually has, you know, EARS that it is Tyler's music. The people who claimed it wasn't Tyler's music are likely die hard Lost fanatics throwing themselves on the wire for their beloved Giacchino. They're also fucking idiots, which strangely enough has a large correlation with the Lost fan base.
Freedom Fighters by MaxThrust	Mar 25th, 2009 12:19:54 PM
Once and for all, the music from the third trailer is: "Freedom Fighters (Choir)" by Niles Iver (Two Steps From Hell". It's available on their LEGEND album. You can find it from reputable sources i.e. buy it, or use Soulseek.
I'm not that fast, and I knew... by GaiustheBrave	Mar 25th, 2009 12:26:46 PM
it was a composition from "Children of Dune." It's been used before, I think I remember, and it will be used again. Welcome to the Golden Path, my friends.
COOL STORY JEOPARDY TEEN! by KinoEscalate	Mar 25th, 2009 12:32:04 PM

Yes, the 3rd trailer's music is "Freedom Fighters (Choir)" by The_Genteel_Gentile	Mar 25th, 2009 12:37:59 PM
Just as MaxThrust has already stated, let their br no more confusion. The music from the third trailer is "Freedom Fighters (Choir) "From the custom trailer music outfit Two Steps From Hell, off of their promo album Legend. "Down With The Enterprise" (the embellished reorchestration of Brian Tyler's COD "War Begins" from the 2nd trailer) is on the second disc of the 2cd promo version of the Legend album from Two Steps From Hell. None of this music is available for purchase thus far, although plans are apparently underway for a compilation of Two Steps From Hell custom trailer music to have a commercial realise sometime in the future. Now please let the speculation end, there is no Buffy music, or Giacchino score used on the trailers.
Funny thing is, Brian Tyler isn't all that great by Rickey Henderson	Mar 25th, 2009 12:39:49 PM
The Children of Dune soundtrack has got to be the most overrated musical score ever. It's the same basic theme repeated over and over. Can we stop paying lip service to this already? Whoever the composer was who did the score to the third trailer was pretty good however. Was it Giacchino? Or Jablonsky? (that would be funny).
Here's What Matters... by IKnowStuff	Mar 25th, 2009 12:42:51 PM
Brian Tyler and Two Steps From Hell both got paid lots of money for their music (TSFH obviously got paid more, as they have music in both trailers.) So it doesn't matter if TSFH's website indicates the proper composer, because the folks over at Paramount know what's up, the composers have been paid, and everything is under control. And likely the only people who will be able to afford licensing the track will be a major studio, and Nick [Phoenix] is not going to take credit for the writing the cue, when someone expresses interest in licensing the track. When I was originally curious about the article, it was not about trailer 2 or trailer 3, it was if JJ actually approached Tyler to come up with a new score for Star Trek - which is not the case at all. Issue settled.
Oh, the irony by Lloytron	Mar 25th, 2009 12:47:26 PM
Seems like such a lot of effort to cover what was essentially a simple mistake that nobody cared about Why don't you guys go to the same lengths when you gush about movies that turn out to be total stinkers?!
Wicked, bitchy hydra by El Mamerro	Mar 25th, 2009 12:51:59 PM
It wasn't in WATCHMEN.
Lloytron by snomusic	Mar 25th, 2009 12:53:16 PM
If ya check out the Astro Boy talkback you'll see just how important this was to D. Vader.
no one seems to ever notice by Kenny_Fuckin_Powers	Mar 25th, 2009 12:59:53 PM
how many cues on children of dune were in my mind probably temp tracked with zimmer's gladiator score. there's some good stuff on there, but when it comes to epic score with non western instrumentation, Bear McReary is the shit. None of his stuff sounds temp tracked ever.
by MikeTheSpike	Mar 25th, 2009 12:59:56 PM
Christ Merrick, who gave you the keys to the site? On an unrelated note, those Army Ants with the orange and blue teams and the guts you could take off them, those were as cool as Battle Beasts. Well, I might give the Beasts an extra point for articulation, but the ants had their charm.
yeah, i still don't understand the fuss by newc0253	Mar 25th, 2009 01:07:28 PM
okay, so the original article raised some attribution issues. so what? couldn't the talkback have continued and the article updated once the new info came to light? why was it necessary to keep the article up in its mutilated form?
AICN: by Newtie	Mar 25th, 2009 01:10:53 PM
It's best not to dwell on such minutiae
Also, by Rickey Henderson	Mar 25th, 2009 01:12:43 PM
In Rickey's opinion, posts like this only serve to further marginalize AICN. You think the public at large or rest of the film industry gives a damn about which B-list composer did a 30 second score for a movie trailer? They do not. No one does. It seems to Rickey like the only purpose of recanting this story is to highlight the minor connections AICN has left in the film industry. You want to impress Rickey? Come up with a decent scoop.
Now fix AIG! by ShogunMaster	Mar 25th, 2009 01:14:10 PM
And tell Obama how to fix the economy! I can't believe you guys spent that much effort to credit some musician for a movie trailers' theme music. If you could put half of that energy into the economy, we'll all be millionaires by 2010!
Why not use Star Trek music? by wilbur gray	Mar 25th, 2009 01:24:27 PM
Paramount has a library of Star Trek music to choose from,and they use Tyler's Dune music in the trailer?I remember seeing the Undiscovered Country teaser with Goldsmith's Lt.Ilia theme from ST:TMP accompanying the visuals.Goldsmith's music wasn't in the final film,but it worked because fans recognized it and became stoked for another chapter.Reminds me of last summer when the first Crystal Skull trailer came out with music from none of the previous fims,except the Raiders march at the end.
Soooo... why did you delete our post histories again? by D.Vader	Mar 25th, 2009 01:24:54 PM
I still don't understand why someone felt the need to pretty much ban some of the talkbacker's post histories (from every talkback ever) on this site, when nothing anyone had said was hostile, insulting, or full of curse words. That said, this incident has become one of the most interesting AICN scoops/stories in MONTHS.
This spins my head Right Round... by NoHubris	Mar 25th, 2009 01:25:10 PM
... (not in the way Flo Rida is talking 'bout) but I get it now. In an industry where credits mean everything, such clarification IS important.
The music in the third trailer was NOT Giacchino by D.Vader	Mar 25th, 2009 01:25:39 PM
Good God, its a riff on the Batman Begins theme.
BUT THEN WHO WAS PHONE? by dr sauch	Mar 25th, 2009 01:29:37 PM

Yes but WHO did the music for the Paul Blart trailer?? by Iron-kong	Mar 25th, 2009 01:32:43 PM
I must know!
merrick dude all due respect by Kenny_Fuckin_Powers	Mar 25th, 2009 01:33:28 PM
but take a high school journalism class. a retraction apology and correction is all that needed. we don't need to know your inner workings. especially when they're this pedantic. i know you mean well but seriously you have yet to find a personal voice on this site and you often do strange things like this. like the post about your son.
Wow. Who cares? by lockesbrokenleg	Mar 25th, 2009 01:34:41 PM
Anyone?
I can simplify this whole thing by Geekgasm	Mar 25th, 2009 01:36:41 PM
by saying "Who cares about Star Trek?" Thank you.
Seriously- who gives a fuck? by Rubiks Doob	Mar 25th, 2009 01:40:00 PM
This is the least cool news ever...
Justice at last.... by lazygarfield	Mar 25th, 2009 01:40:45 PM
To humbly put it forth, I WAS THE FIRST ONE TO NOTICE AND REPORT!!!!!!!!!
Oh, also - My favorite Brian Tyler track? by Geekgasm	Mar 25th, 2009 01:41:00 PM
Gotta be "Total Eclipse of the Heart".
u might not care by ominus	Mar 25th, 2009 01:42:04 PM
but the creators of film music do care. remember when Tyler Bates plagiarized the music of Elliot Goldenthal's Titus for his 300 ost? he got trialled and reached an agreement with the original creator . and frankly we should care,because i hate praising someone for someone elses work (yeah zack the hack snyder,i am referring to you)
AICN, How about an apology to Giacchino by darthpigman	Mar 25th, 2009 01:43:44 PM
For creepily starting an unnecessary rumor (insinuating that his Star Trek score had been replaced by Brian Tyler) and then letting it bake for two days while you waited to clear up your fuck up.
The 3rd trailer was really amped up by the music by Knobules	Mar 25th, 2009 01:44:11 PM
But its just a trailer. So hows Paris Hilton and Capone doin these days?
People who care about this... by D.Vader	Mar 25th, 2009 01:51:32 PM
Are the people who really care about film, and by extension of that, film music. BAM
What the Hell?!?! by BCfreeB	Mar 25th, 2009 01:59:40 PM
There was way too much energy spent on this issue. I mean, good job doing your homework, but we don't need the whole ordeal put forward. Just the highlights. Or in this case, it's friggin trailer music, who cares anyway?
God I wish Jerry Goldsmith were here to... by cameron1975willi	Mar 25th, 2009 02:02:16 PM
...come up with yet another killer score, utilising motifs from his previous Trek work. Giacchino's got his work cut out.
Wait a minute, why isn't James Horner doing it? by cameron1975willi	Mar 25th, 2009 02:04:36 PM

Debacle? by RobertBaron	Mar 25th, 2009 02:06:02 PM
The only people who give a shit about this are Brian Tyler, Two Steps from Hell and maybe some Trekkie who needs to every little detail about every little thing. That's like 7 people. Tops. 3 of them probably have Asperger's too.
Why isn't James Horner doing it? by D.Vader	Mar 25th, 2009 02:07:51 PM
Because JJ loves working with Giacchino. That'd be like asking why Brian Tyler wasn't doing Spielberg's next movie, or why Tyler Bates wasn't doing Tim Burton's next.
After reading some of the negative comments here... by D.Vader	Mar 25th, 2009 02:09:56 PM
I've come to the conclusion there are a lot of non-film-fans here at this site.
Whats "Children of Dune"? by The8thSamurai	Mar 25th, 2009 02:10:20 PM
Is that a Thunderdome reference?
DON'T GO TO THE OFFICIAL STAR TREK WEBSITE by K00m0	Mar 25th, 2009 02:11:50 PM
On the right side of my screen, my PC happened to tune into a dorm room videocam of two busty hotties laying beside each other and giggling, juggling. I'M TRYING TO TALK TO THEM NOW. DO NOT MESS THIS UP.
hey BCfreeB by IKnowStuff	Mar 25th, 2009 02:18:54 PM
Fuck you. This is my fucking job. What do you do for a living that's so fucking awesome?
Why doesn't Abrams get some dude with a trumpet by scriptgirl_nipples	Mar 25th, 2009 02:21:36 PM
to provide the music? As he's fucking Star Trek up the ass with everything else he's doing.
What Happened To AICN? by MANZILLA	Mar 25th, 2009 02:25:42 PM
Make no mistake I LOVE THIS SITE. Ive been coming here daily for years. But what happened to all the cool news?
Who gives a shit? by thepentaveret	Mar 25th, 2009 02:26:42 PM
It's a flippin trailer. Yawn.
"Who cares about trailer music?" by D.Vader	Mar 25th, 2009 02:27:42 PM
Uhhh, lots of people do. The same way they care about film music.
Seriously the apology you owe is to Giacchino by Kenny_Fuckin_Powers	Mar 25th, 2009 02:34:33 PM
the way you handled this, i didnt see the origial article just the headline and then the missing article. so i assumed it implied that tyler was working on the actual score for the film. no one gives a fuck who scored the trailer. hell for all i know that trailer was scored with danger zone from fucking top gun. seemed like it sorta.
We check and recheck and check our facts by lockesbrokenleg	Mar 25th, 2009 02:35:13 PM
again.
Why did I have to read this long article? by The Eskimo	Mar 25th, 2009 02:38:09 PM
1. Merrick screwed up an article. 2. In the course of fixing his mistake, it became apparent that there was a dispute over who wrote the music. 3. The article was pulled until AICN could figure it out. 4. Turns out, both composers had a hand in the music, and neither credited the other for their part. 5. Now it is fixed. The end.
And on a similar note... by The Eskimo	Mar 25th, 2009 02:42:19 PM
...I'm curious as to why Brian Tyler didn't mention Two Steps involvment in the original article. It seems like it would have been the natural thing to do in the context of the discussion. There is something more going on here. I'm going to check the Two Steps site to see if they really "fixed" their "mistake." Be right back.
Nope... by The Eskimo	Mar 25th, 2009 02:50:48 PM
No changes. I wonder if there was some dispute over rights, money etc that caused some bad blood between the two. Seems like neither party wants to recognize the other's involvment unless thier hand is forced, ans with Scorekeepers phone call inquiry.
This article... by Margot_Tenenbaum	Mar 25th, 2009 03:03:50 PM
...is absolutely insane. Deeply crazy.
Great reporting job.... by Executor	Mar 25th, 2009 03:05:15 PM
Too many times AICN is labeled as just a "gossip" or "cool news" site, and people lose sight of the fact that the main contributors are intelligent journalists who do a great job in their reportage and interviews. Thanks.
This wasn't the comedy you intended to do tonight right? by Smashing	Mar 25th, 2009 03:09:28 PM
What on Earth does all the above mean? is someone on crack?
Thge sarcasm from above... by The Eskimo	Mar 25th, 2009 03:13:46 PM
...is dripping all over my post!
@D.Vader by BLEST	Mar 25th, 2009 03:27:05 PM
Post history was deleted because people were taking potshots at Star Trek Returns, and Harry and Co. are ultra JJ fanboys.
But that doesn't make sense BLEST by D.Vader	Mar 25th, 2009 03:37:57 PM
Because I and others did no such thing. (I know you're trying to make a point). Your post didn't get deleted did it?
I'm still figuring out who did the music for the teaser... by MrMysteryGuest	Mar 25th, 2009 03:41:46 PM

Well, at least it's not that cunt Tyler Bates. by JackPumpkinhead	Mar 25th, 2009 03:42:38 PM
If "Watchmen" had a decent composer and at least two seconds of good and memorable music, maybe it wouldn't have tanked so badly.
D.Vader by BLEST	Mar 25th, 2009 03:46:50 PM
Nah, I know. I just wanted to get a jab in. But yeah, my post was deleted. The whole dang TB for that story was shut down.
D Vader by Lloytron	Mar 25th, 2009 03:47:00 PM
Fair enough, I guess some folks do give a toss about this sort of thing. Personally I don't, I just care about the finished article. it doesn't mean that I'm not a film fan because I don't care to have an encyclopedic knowledge of what the make up artists do in their spare time. Anyway that's beside the point. The point is, this is a minor issue and if anything was posted it should jus thave been a retraction. To me this site makes far bigger mistakes when it gives glowing reviews to films that don't deserve it. Where are the retractions for the articles that encourage people to waste their money on bad movies?!
I agree with you Lloytron by D.Vader	Mar 25th, 2009 03:56:48 PM
I think the article could definitely use some tightening up, and I think the best course of action would have just been to keep the Talkback and erase the story leaving it with an "Will be Updated Soon" message (since leaving the story up until an update wouldn't suffice, not knowing when they'd get the info they required). My main interest was why people had their histories erased, but its always good to get the correct information on trailer music (makes it easier to download that way). And PS, you'll NEVER find retractions like that. Actually, I don't think you'll ever find a retraction from Harry, period.
what was the middle part again? by BadMrWonka	Mar 25th, 2009 03:57:35 PM
linguini, fettucine, spaghetti!
Thank Christ THAT'S cleared up. by Clavius	Mar 25th, 2009 04:19:24 PM
Because, you know, I totally couldn't sleep anymore until I knew who the proper credit belonged to for a fucking TEMP TRACK in a MOVIE TRAILER. Now I can get on with my life again. Huzzah!
For ALL Giacchino fans out there... by wtriker1701	Mar 25th, 2009 04:34:42 PM
Get LOST!!! Somebody had to to say it!
Entire histories being deleted by snomusic	Mar 25th, 2009 04:39:35 PM
While that's an irritant I suppose, how long did you want it up? Had you planned to share the links to some particularly heated posted with your grandchildren when they came of age? Seriously, the anger and bile that is spewed on this site, particularly about how the site has gone to pot is hilarious because, #1 - why do the haters return and #2, as many posts that come up, I can only assume the posters are disabled and just sit there hitting refresh all day until they get a response or no one has told them they can change their home page and there are lots of web pages out there... AICN - For people who love movies and hate people.
Aint It Spectacularly Boring Incorrect News by quantize	Mar 25th, 2009 04:51:02 PM
i got half way through that and gave up
SnoCone by D.Vader	Mar 25th, 2009 05:00:19 PM
No,its irritation over the fact that I had TB conversations going on in other TB's and suddenly all my posts were deleted without good reason, leaving those conversations looking a bit empty and confusing. On top of that it just feels a bit insulting when your stuff gets deleted but you see the offensive, childish, immature, rude, etc. shit that other people get away with on this site continue.
Meant Snomusic by D.Vader	Mar 25th, 2009 05:25:50 PM
My mistake =)
My life can begin again knowing that all is well...... by Gabba-UK	Mar 25th, 2009 05:27:43 PM
... I mean this whole debacle has kept me from doing the other things which my life revolves around, like rearranging my sock drawer! I can't begin to tell you the lost amount of nanoseconds of sleep I've lost from the worry....
D.Vader - I feel ya man. by The_Genteel_Gentile	Mar 25th, 2009 05:56:49 PM
Yeah, same thing happened to me back in the day, in another life. Completely wiped from existence on AICN. Believe it or not, it was for being polite! Can't prove it seeing as how it's all been deleted now. "Someone" was harboring much resentment for certain truths that had exposed them months earlier, and bided their time until they could manufacture a reason. Said person, actually dug up the months prior old post, reposted it, called me a hypocrate for trying to be civil, and faintly threatened me with expulsion if I said another word. I went on to actually apologise because the previous post in question was done in a mock vulgar fashion sarcastically parodying it's intended targets juvenile and obscene jornalistic methods. I don't think I need to say who it was, you can probably guess. But his activity was totally bogus, and very frustrating at the time, especially because reregestration wasn't possible for a good long time afterwards. I've just recently started back up here, so I'm not gonna pick a fight I can't win by saying more specifics on what power mad writer is running amuck at AICN with a wicked case of inferiority complex and a delete happy finger. I mean I'd just get banned at some random future date for no reason. I think anyone who reads this site on a regular basis knows the swine in question. So yeah, I know what you're saying. And for the record: "Boo Hoo!"
Brian Tyler rocked on Bubba Ho-Tep! by Amy Chasing	Mar 25th, 2009 06:22:58 PM
Bubba Ho-Tep wouldn't have been as good otherwise.
D. Vader by snomusic	Mar 25th, 2009 06:47:30 PM
Thanks for the clarification and correction as well - yer alright in my book. But unlike Stuntman Mike, I have no book.
true that was an incredibly long post almost about nothing. by TheDark0Knight	Mar 25th, 2009 07:02:03 PM
Im glad though that you explained everything...I was curious as to why it was taken down.
to be honest I dont understand any of what I just read haha by TheDark0Knight	Mar 25th, 2009 07:04:42 PM
what trailer is the one with the most epic fucking music Ive ever heard?
and who composed it? by TheDark0Knight	Mar 25th, 2009 07:05:07 PM

So which one had the Giant Robot in it-? by Sal_Bando	Mar 25th, 2009 07:42:42 PM
--I kinda missed that in the above article-
Oh dear, AICN. Oh Dear indeed by Col. Tigh-Fighter	Mar 25th, 2009 08:29:09 PM
This post felt like one of the final nails in your coffin.
Yes, yes, but..... by wackybantha	Mar 25th, 2009 08:33:40 PM
.....what does all this have to do with Megan Fox?!? She is sooo hot!!
Thank fucking God this was cleared up by MattmanReturns	Mar 25th, 2009 09:05:06 PM
I was losing sleep.
Errr by jdb1972	Mar 25th, 2009 09:32:37 PM
If only AICN was as anal-retentive about, you know, things that matter. You know, not accepting pwesents and the like.
Genteel_Gentile by D.Vader	Mar 25th, 2009 09:40:16 PM
Are you Octagon_Proplex?!?
by MikeTheSpike	Mar 25th, 2009 09:47:13 PM
Can we just encase this whole debacle in amber so we can refer to it, unvarnished, throughout the eons? There's just something spectacularly fucking stupid about the whole thing. Merrick distilled, if you'd like.
ATT: Executor by whitty	Mar 25th, 2009 09:49:19 PM
Executor wrote: "people lose sight of the fact that the main contributors are intelligent journalists who do a great job in their reportage and interviews." Are you serious, man?? There is NOTHING whatsoever about AICN that is even remotely journalistic.
In the Immortal Words of Artie Lange by NumbNutz	Mar 25th, 2009 09:59:59 PM
This was a very interesting post. I think we should continue a detailed discussion of the various issues raised in an hour-long presentation to be aired on the WHO GIVES A SHIT CHANNEL!
Did they mark up the score by MrDexter	Mar 25th, 2009 10:04:41 PM
with a Sharpie-brand marker or was a generic marker used and people are just assuming that it was a Sharpie-brand marker. Take down all posts related to this matter until this issue is cleared up by the people who marked up the sheet music and Newell Rubbermaid / Sandford Brands, the makers of Sharpie-brand permanent markers
Snomusic, you're allright in my book too by D.Vader	Mar 25th, 2009 10:15:22 PM
Thanks =).
Are we discussing "Fucking A Fat Chick"? by BurnHollywood	Mar 25th, 2009 10:15:50 PM
That's that incredibly powerful piece of music in the TREK trailer that perfectly depicts such a dilemma... At first you're thinking "Holy crap, she's 300 lbs...NO ONE can do this! It would take at least two guys..." But THEN...you start to get the hang of it...it's all in the rhythm...it's working...IT'S WORKING! IT'S ALMOST DONE! The choir powerfully kicks in...YOU'RE ALMOST THERE! Yes! You've done it...YOU'VE DONE IT! You've fucked a fat chick! You're a hero, now, farmboy.
This article is so unnecessary. by Toilet_Terror	Mar 25th, 2009 11:10:30 PM
It's just a trailer.
what Vern said by The Amazing G	Mar 26th, 2009 12:32:27 AM

Aint it no news. by Motoko Kusanagi	Mar 26th, 2009 01:16:31 AM
Move along, people. Nothing to see here...
Majority of Tyler's score for RAMBO was credited to him... by Monkey_King	Mar 26th, 2009 04:37:04 AM
but 85% of the score was Goldsmith music or cues from Goldsmith's FIRST BLOOD and RAMBO 2 scores, yet Tyler almost got full credit for Goldsmith-cued pieces.
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Who gives a fuck? by Dragon Man	Mar 26th, 2009 07:02:34 AM
Seriously, this is important to who? And why?
Summon the Ban-Hammer for iamalice1 by Amy Chasing	Mar 26th, 2009 07:11:08 AM
for obvious reasons
actually by wumper	Mar 26th, 2009 09:13:37 AM
the music in the 3rd trailer has many similar tunes to Hans Zimmer's track "Journey to the Line" from the Thin Red Line. But I'm sure they've pulled cues from everywhere, like everyone else has said before me.
FUCK YOU Two Steps From Hell !! by DoctorWho?	Mar 26th, 2009 09:39:57 AM
Self Important Twats!
I find it funny by Tom_Bombadil	Mar 26th, 2009 11:32:40 AM
All of this talk about the music in a Star trek movie trailer is too funny. I listened to the music on Two Steps From Hell and the War Begins from Children of Dune. I could hear the similarities in the War Begins and the Star Trek trailer. Didn't hear the similarities in the featured music on Devil Wears Nada though. Someone made a comment about the music sounding similar to Batman Begins and I would say part of it sounds similar but it varies from it slightly. I am looking forward to this new Trek movie.
Sheep Assholes by IKnowStuff	Mar 26th, 2009 11:35:43 AM
Man, there are some serious sheep assholes on this site. Get your own identity people - stop recycling the same shit that was posted by the last person. You know, nobody will judge you if you do actually care. Not just about this Tyler/Trek issue, but about life in general. Nobody will judge you if you care.
Know what'll be cool? by EverythingEverywhereStinks	Mar 26th, 2009 11:38:09 AM
Five to seven years from now, this whole "Brian Tyler's JJ Abrams' Star Trek Trailer #2 Temp Score: The Movie!" will be reimagined by whoever the current hot and trendy, no talent Hollywood golden boy will be, and we'll forget just how stupid and fake looking this current dust up over the temp score is. When it gets reimagined, we'll all be asking ourselves why we cared about it now. Remember, it won't be your daddy's Temp Score for the trailer when they reimagine it! I just hope Bob Orci and Alex Kurtzman are the writers so there's a TON of continuity!
by ron d moore. by alice 13	Mar 26th, 2009 12:06:48 PM
cant wait to see the thing reboot/remake/prequel that hes done.
Oh For Fuck's Sake by Grayskull	Mar 26th, 2009 12:26:14 PM
Was this really worth writing a long-winded article about? Noooo...
Is it really that hard... by BendersShinyAss	Mar 26th, 2009 12:32:56 PM
...for a multi million dollar film to record some original score. Trek has over 30 years of music to temp to it's films. Magical Scores written by James Horner, Jerry Goldsmith, Leonard Rosenman (fuck didn't that one stink of shit) Cliff Eidelman (Who the fuck are you man?) and even Alexander courage's original trek theme. This is an original trek movie, isn't it? Is it possible to call this trek an 'original' film? boggles the mind. I love star ships. & planes too.
D.Vader by The_Genteel_Gentile	Mar 26th, 2009 01:45:45 PM
Wow man, your intuition and memory serves you well! Let's keep it down though, I wouldn't want certain grudge minded entities alerted. But woh, seriously how'd you do that? You're freakin' me out right now.
Genteel Gentile by BendersShinyAss	Mar 26th, 2009 02:23:42 PM
I remember that. At least, the one im thinking of involved Mori. Even that poor bastard couldn't take this shit anymore. I don't even know why I'm here now to be perfectly honest. glutten for punishment i guess. come to think of it... there's been a few posters ive seen get banned after touching a nerve with AICN personel. D.vader I know what you mean by whole conversations being destroyed. the Ringbearer saga was unreadable after that fucker was banned. He's still here. I can feel him ....
Genteel and Bender by D.Vader	Mar 26th, 2009 02:51:32 PM
Well Genteel, I'll try and keep it on the downlow, but I was part of that talkback too, and I didn't say anything insulting either. And I was banned as well! I came back the next morning to see if said editor and you kept at it, and I realized your posts had disappeared. Then I realized mine had too. I got pissed, emailed said editor, and he said he didn't ban us but basically "tough shit" and that we deserved it. So I emailed Moriarty instead and after a few weeks he got back to me and reinstated my TB handle. But at the time, I was pissed bc I couldn't re-register either. But I saved that entire debacle bc I was railing against said editor on another site because of it. And I made sure to mention how you didn't so anything wrong, yet the editor brought up some comments you had made months ago like he was holding a grudge. And Bender, I vaguely remember the Ringbearer saga. Could you help refresh my memory?
Banning by Toonol	Mar 26th, 2009 04:08:28 PM
I've never seen anybody banned from aicn that didn't make the place better by their absence. I'm sure you all felt unjustly put upon; but it's EASY to not get banned. Just don't act nuts. Most of us never do, and it works fine.
Toonol by The_Genteel_Gentile	Mar 26th, 2009 05:15:10 PM
I wish you could have read it man, I was being totally "geneel" and "gentile" (as opposed to the oposite of those things). If it all weren't erased, I'd say look it up and tell me I wasn't one of the more polite guys, willing to fully explain myself in civil discourse. In this case the editor was the one acting "nuts".
Yeah Toonol by D.Vader	Mar 26th, 2009 05:22:42 PM
It was the editor who lost his shit. Trust me. Everything Gentile did was spot on civility.
D.Vader by The_Genteel_Gentile	Mar 26th, 2009 05:36:03 PM
Oh man, it's all coming back to me now! You came on and said it was pretty crazy for the editor to bring up some stuff from months prior and threaten to drop the big ban or something, and then editor said something like "Yeah, D. Vader, that's exactly how I put it!" or something. I go on to even apologise to the editor and try to explain why I had made such a remark and that I felt it was indead too harsh and that I took no pride in it. Next thing I know you, me and another guy were all deleted. Crazy, I totally remember you coming to my defense, so thanks man. Sorry you took some of the shrapnel from a bomb meant for me, that really is messed up. I recall e-mailing Harry asking if someone could review that situation, but I never got a response one way or another. Ah well...good times!
Trailer Music by Klaatu2012	Mar 27th, 2009 10:12:16 AM
Nobody cares. The 3rd trailer music was great, and if the music on the Official Site is Giacchino, then it's bad. Top heavy, no bass, just the the cheerleader crap at the end of Cloverfield.
Original music by Zath_ras	Mar 27th, 2009 10:20:03 AM
I was thinking of writing an original score by taking John Williams' "Superman" score, adding a few tom toms and islamic voices. I would then call it something edgy and satirical like "Bite it, Krypton!"
Genteel Gentile by D.Vader	Mar 27th, 2009 05:28:32 PM
Yeah that was me. I was defending you bc you asked if someone's post had been deleted, and the editor said basically "yes it had" and that if you disagreed with him you were fucked in the head. After some back and forth between you two, he said you'd be wise to move along- which I perceived as a threat- is there any other way to interpret that statement? So yeah, I said "oh no, here comes to ban hammer," which then prompted the response you quoted up there. I still don't understand why I was deleted, but in the email, said editor said we all deserved it- me especially bc I was getting involved in something about whose history I knew nothing about? Or some bullshit like that. It was all pretty stupid. As you said, you were polite the entire time. It was the editor who was holding a grudge due to an (angry) post you made MONTHS before. I'm sorry you didn't get a response. You should have tried Mori. When I saw you and I were banned, I assumed you must have said something wrong, but I'm sure you didn't. That editor just had an itchy trigger finger.
Oh and Genteel by D.Vader	Mar 27th, 2009 05:29:16 PM
Someone else got banned from that TB?
D.Vader by The_Genteel_Gentile	Mar 27th, 2009 09:05:45 PM
It was the censoring of "Harry Bolzonnia" that triggered the whole thing. I'm not sure now if it was just one post that was deleated or if he got banned also. As I recall he said something like: "I almost wish it would have been Lucas rather than Winston", implying that because Winston still had digity and cared about making quality work instead of exploiting and patronizing the memories and good will of children of the 70's and 80's for purly monetary gain, it made it all the more heartbreaking. Because Winston still respected the art and the fans. At least that's what I understood it to mean, but he was immidiately deleated. When I asked what had just happened (?), "editor" said the guy had wished death on Lucas and anybody that thinks that's okay is "fucked in the head". I replyed that that was a fairley harsh response toward my question, that I don't think that was the point of the post, and that even if it were - why would it be forbidden to say such a thing when people have made their entire reputation on AICN for wishing death and forced sodemy on Michael Bay (why were they never censored? I thought it was a legitimite question.)? The "Editor" then called me a hypocrate and out of no where brang up some out of context rude quote from months prior, that was actually lampooning said "Editors" own vularous slander, and made a vage threat that I should basically not say another word. No yeah, I did the only thing I could do, which was apolgise to the "editor", not out of fear but because he obviously took it to heart and had been offended (I take no pride in making another person feel bad, that's really not my style at all and either was that rude post). And that was the last that I addressed him. There where some other instigators trying to fan the flames but I told them in no uncertain terms that I would not be a party to that and that as far as I was concerned any beef between the two of us had been squashed. I remenmber you where the only hero to emerge and say hold on this guy's not persuing anything, why is being threatened with the "ban hammer". Thanks again for being an advocate when others were clearly salavating for blood. You were the lone person to have enough backbone and integrity to see the situation with clear eyes and ask why, instead of trying to pile on and goat some kind of war of words. So thanks again, I really do appreciate that noble act. Then, all of a sudden I refresh the page and I'm a ghost.
(that's "vagUe" threat and "pUrsuing anything") by The_Genteel_Gentile	Mar 27th, 2009 09:18:38 PM
Tiny boxes are not my preferred method, not that spelling is my forte anyway. Oh but for the availability of an edit function, people might be persuaded to believe I was half way intellegent. Ah well, that boat has sailed and the truth is out now.
"lampooning said "Editors" own vulGarous slander" by The_Genteel_Gentile	Mar 27th, 2009 09:33:38 PM
Man, I gotta start typing this crap out on a notepad first, and reading through it so it makes a tiny bit of sense! Sorry D.Vader, for making you read through such incomprehensible rubish. The sentiments are sound though (I hope).
Oh fudge-pickles man! I give up D.Vader! by The_Genteel_Gentile	Mar 27th, 2009 09:42:58 PM
Turns out "vulgarous" isn't even a word! Let's just say vulgar and leave it there. God, I quit man. Sincerly! "I need a vEEcation!" - Detective John Kimmel
I don't know about all this, but... by SebastianHaff	Mar 28th, 2009 06:05:19 PM
Brian Tyler fucking rocks. His song 'All is Well' from the Bubba Ho-Tep soundtrack literally makes me cry like a little girl. He should be scoring much, much higher profile films in my opinion.

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