Damn you, Paul WS Anderson, and damn you too, Strause Brothers! You totally killed and fucked up two of the most brilliant franchises in movie history.

Fuck you all!

it was all there on the page all storyboarded out!...yeah i know fans will have read it but they used story elements of it in Andersons AvP anyway...plus they film novel and graphic novels all the time (Watchmen etc etc) and people still wanna see them

Much of the eerieness of the 1st Alien film is that the creature was totally alien...but it turns out there was an aliens dancing about on earth all along and one is now living at the bottom of the sea..kinda undermines Alien 1 dosnt it...meh

plus they shouldve just left it as a one off - not done the atrocious AvP 2...they couldve gone ahead with Scott and Camerons Alien 5 (or 4 if AvP had been done instead of the crummy Alien Resurection) and done a Predator 3

what a simple task royally *beep* ed up

a Trek v Aliens comic would make a lot more sense than some

that could make for a decent AvP 3...id be well up for another AvP film proving it was like that and had a decent director like the Pitch Black/Riddick dude...actually heres a thought - what about Vin Disel as the head guy in the Colonial Marines? im not his biggest fan but maybe hed be ok as a Dutch/Apone type guy in the Marines...hed lend the film some (moderate) star power (something the other 2 didnt have) plus his career has been on the slide ever since his Pitch Black/Fast and the Furious double whammy at the beginning of the decade when he was mooted as the next Arnie..so maybe hed do it especially if the Riddick guy directed

Who, apart from the most cretinous drooling fanboy cro-magnon thought that was a good idea?

And he's right about Turdmen, too.

Fuck it just get Cameron and Scott to DP Alien 5

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A lovely pipe dream to be sure, but I seriously doubt it'll ever happen. Both men are notorious perfectionists and Scott didn't even like what Cameron did with the aliens in the second film, turning them into bugs. Could you imagine the fights they would have? They'd be at each other's throats constantly about how to portray the aliens and whatever world they were on--their arguments might be more interesting to watch than the resultant film. It'd be like trying to get Magritte to work with Rembrandt. Both men have different styles, different ideas, different approaches. Simply put, I doubt they'd work well together--if at all.

As for AvP3, why not just ditch the series altogether and come up with an original idea for a science fiction/horror film? Or if Hollywood is so lacking in new ideas these days, then go find a good novel or short story to adapt?

Shit, I am anyway. The pool one rocks.

Even a half-assed AvP movie based on any part of 20 years of books and comics would be among the best action flicks of the year it was released. One in the hands of a good crew would be an instant sci-fi classic. Not kidding.

Make a "reboot", "reimagining" or whatever we can actually use, one that IMPROVES a film. AvP can't get worse. I'd rather watch Ridley Scott and James Cameron playing with Alien and Predator action figures then either of the movies again.

Camerons Queen was a wonderful creation, but unfortunately had the side effect of turning the beautiful, strange alien into a bunch of worker bees.

Like most things the alien is more interesting when there's still an element of mystery about it.

It also owns your fucking asses.

Fuck it.

Leave it sprawled on the ground twitching.

Easy. There's an old story called "Earth Hive" that I remember reading that is almost fucking made for this treatment. It would rock.

But Fox hates Alien for some reason.

He had to tie himself in narrative knots to explain how the fucking Alien was on Earth and nobody knew about it.

Once he'd done this (and I'm ignoring all the rest of the crap in that festering abortion of a film for the purposes of this)he'd left a situation where the sequel had to deal with the direct consequences of setting a high concept sci-fi movie in the present day. They did as good a job as they could have with the story, but were still stuck with the richter scale stupidity of the first film.

The flaws of AvP:Rectum are fucking huge, but number one on the list is that you couldn't see what the fuck was going on, and that's before I even get on to the abuse of canon that took place in that shitpile.

To be absolutely fair to them, they did finsih the film in Space and tie up the loose ends. It's still fucking terrible though.

If Fox really must do an AvP (and I'd rather they didn't), stop trying to force it into Alien continuity (no more Mr. Weyland/ Miss Yutani horseshit), set it in the far future and have some fucking space marines. No more pizza boys (stupidest thing ever), no more fucking rock climbers/ archaelogists, no more corporation heads, no more cheerleaders, just SPACE MARINES.

Starship Troopers 3 (which is flawed- but at least had the right idea)should be the model for a return to continuity.

Fuck whoever's idea that was.

To be fair to Predator 2, it was smart enough to set it in a futuristic dystopian urban jungle and the people weren't just cannon fodder.

The only other time I've watched a movie that made me want to commit violence was back in 1990 when I saw Highlander 2: The Fuckening for the first time. In that case it wasn't even a property I cared that much about. The outrage I felt while watching AvP: Rectum eclipses that experience by far.

Fox earned my undying hatred for launching that sauteed pony loaf into pop culture.

The mind boggles and the ass hurts.

At least it had Sean connery in it.

They need to simply grab the plot of the book series and use it to make the fucking movies. It's that simple. That, or just stop. The rectal shotgun violation of the Alien and Predator franchises needs to end.

HIghlander: The Source is dreadful genius, Doc. I haven't been as angry with something as I still am about AvP:Rectum for a long time. Mostly because it means we won't get another proper Alien film.

I'm stealing "head-butted in the nuts by Purcell"

The editing in Doomsday was outstanding as well. It flowed comfortably between quick cuts and longer takes when the narrative demanded it, without any phony jarring quick-slow-quick-slow bullshit or jump cuts.

I love Doomsday because it's so fucking self-confident. It's trash, but GLORIOUS trash and doesn't need cheap tricks to sell itself.

Awesome.

It knew it was trash and fucking loved the fact that it was trash.

The Descent 2 draws nearer and I get more and more depressed thinking about it.

the alien's motivation was to protect ripley because she was the host of the alien queen.

what dont u fuckin understand?

I'd prefer to live in a world where The Descent 2 does not exist.

Maybe it kills things because it's Alien stepfather touched it in a naughty place when it was young.

Get a grip.

And you'd both drink Rhona Mitra's bathwater given half a chance.

The Alien was supposed to be something that you didn't know if it would eat or fuck you to death, procreation is the meaning of life for all creatures! That should be the Aliens motivation, I think the fact it takes DNA from each host gives people alot of give in the Aliens character

And the queen makes sense, you need something to lay all those eggs, if theres no queen then the Alien can somehow morph a human? This fuckin universe needs some stability? But there still ALL awesome movies. And AvP 2 makes AvP watchable

Fuck's sake.

The only idea worse than this one is The Thing prequel.

Will I ever watch it again? FUCK NO if I can help it. But then, i wouldn't watch Invasion for Flesh and Blood ever again either... ok, maybe I might.

I've had the misfortune to see it twice now- the first one was a bent copy, so I presumed that it was all fucked up because it was pirate and the second was at a mates on a proper copy.

I was distressed to find out that my bent one was actually a perfect pirate.

There must be about a million words for them.

He's the idiot that makes out he's black belt in Fuckyu or some other equally made up martial art, and honestly believes that hospitals keep buckets of aborted foetuses (foeti)sitting on dryers when they aren't dead, and that it's alright to go down to a crisis centre and bully rape victims into keeping their babies.

He's a twat.

I wonder sometimes if the shallow 'frat boy' male descriptions of female body parts do not bely an unconscious disgust with the female anatomy. Sure, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar but still. Bags have absolutely nothing to do with boobs on women under the age of 60 (sometimes even 70!) and "camel toe" shouldn't be used in describing anything related to women ever. Amen.

the alien's motivation was to protect ripley because she was the host of the alien queen.

what dont u fuckin understand?

Camel toe is pretty terrible too.

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C'mon you know you wanna see it too. I've NEVER had the sad experience of seeing Either of the Aliens/Predator flix, and I've frankly NO interest, either.

Aliens is the best of the lot. I can still watch that, and enjoy. People know who I mean whenever I say 'ChickenShit Outfit'--that's the name du Bodet for Bill Paxton. Can't remember his name? Just remember-Chickenshit Outfit-and you're good to go.

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Thank you DennisMM...even though I will probably never use it again since I hardly post, but thanks anyways!

Alien is first and foremost a Horror movie. And a damned effective one.

Your ranting actually puts me off Aliens a little bit, and I fucking love Aliens.

They need to return it to it's roots- no shit gimmicks (baby, cloning, predalien), set it in space, or on cyberpunk earth and DO IT FUCKING PROPERLY.

You can have some Space Marines, sure, but do not make it a war film- Cameron's was lightening in a bottle.

Resurrection had untold marines in it.

Mistakes- Bringing Ripley back for Resurrection (opened a whole can of worms), Setting AvP in the present day, AvP:Rectum (all of it),

I agree though. Something needs to be done- Alien is the gold standard for Sci-Fi/ Horror and what they've doone to it is fucking terrible.

The only question is do they want it on their feet like men, or on their knees begging".

I bet on begging.

In the mess hall they talk about "arterian" (if that's the correct spelling) poontang and then later on in the hanger Hudson asks if this will be "another bug hunt". It just makes me wonder what else was out there.