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Harry begs, 'DRAG ME TO HELL again Mr Raimi... PLEASE! PLEASE!'

HEY SAM LISTEN TO HARRY by kgerm	Mar 16th, 2009 04:29:53 AM
Make more horror movies and stay the fuck away from Spiderman 4.
"single most satisfying film experience I've had - maybe ever" by couP	Mar 16th, 2009 04:30:43 AM
I mean, seriously? Bit much, innit? I saw the trailer the other day thinking, meh, can't be as Spider-man 3.
Tom Sullivan is hating Raimi right now by Monkey_King	Mar 16th, 2009 04:36:02 AM
He's still milking the effects he did for Raimi over 20 years ago, the art he's done and the little bit of work he did for EVIL DEAD 2. I'll see this sad sad man in a few weeks at Cinema Wasteland and laugh.
Stoked for this by tomdolan04	Mar 16th, 2009 04:38:14 AM
Really genuinely want a rollercoaster horror ride after the continual influx of weak teen slasher remakes and style-less torture porn antics. My question is what is the protagonist like - any good? Sure the thrills and spills in the Evil Dead series were a riot but it was because the character of Ash was so well portrayed as a likeable charasmatic bonehead, he could sell scenes like having his hand possessed etc - even if Campbell has got an ego the size of Texas, he sold the hell out of the role. Fingers crossed for this and Spidey 4. Spidey 2 is amongst my favourite non-serious flicks yet Spidey 3 the worst (and I'm not really a comic book purest) but in listening to interviews with Raimi I haven't lost the faith
"single most satisfying film experience I've had - maybe ever" by tomdolan04	Mar 16th, 2009 04:40:55 AM
Virgin Witch, hands down...pants
The spookablast has landed! by Boba Fat	Mar 16th, 2009 05:08:23 AM
Welcome home Sam.
Q&A by JaviT	Mar 16th, 2009 05:12:25 AM
so bummed that I had to work tonight? was there a q&a and were there any good nuggets? really looking forward to this after the horror teases in Spidey 2 and 3!
yes i'm still crying over spider-man 3 by RealDoubleJ	Mar 16th, 2009 05:13:15 AM
Cause my mind to this day still boggles over who thought the black suit should turn peter parker into a dancer......as opposed to say, an over-confident spider-man?
I'll have what he's having. by The Gospel According to Bastardface	Mar 16th, 2009 05:41:38 AM
Actually, no thanks. I don't think I could eat a whole Raimi's cock. Seriously, though. I'm stoked to see this. I hope it's as good as Harry says.
Is it still PG-13? by Knuckleduster	Mar 16th, 2009 05:45:28 AM
Hard to believe one of the best horror films of the decade (according to what I've read) is PG-13. Anyhoo, the best horror film of the decade is, without a doubt, The Descent. No competition there.
While I did not actually piss myself in panic... by Massawyrm 1	Mar 16th, 2009 06:00:07 AM
I did squirm and writhe and flail my arms like a little girl. I doubt I will be able to wield a stapler without cringing for at least a month. That movie rocked 10 different kinds of ass.
HAROLD. PUT DOWN THE JOO JOO JUICE. by Sal_Bando	Mar 16th, 2009 06:15:58 AM
Step AWAY from the KomPooter. ETC. This sounds verrrrrrrry much like your raves for both Jurassic_Kong and Watchmen. Ummmmmm, no. Thou ravest too much me thinks. But if you can manage to get him to put some (more) Giant Robots into this, maybe I'll rent it-for free-down the road.
Is it scary? by DarthBakpao	Mar 16th, 2009 06:41:05 AM
Because i never, i repeat, I NEVER see any horror movie made in Hollywood that is scary. Yes, that includes Exorcist. The scariest horror movies are made by asian filmmakers
overhyped crap once more? by Gungan Slayer	Mar 16th, 2009 06:42:06 AM
We shall see, we shall see.
Avatar is #1 on my must-see list for 2009. by kwisatzhaderach	Mar 16th, 2009 06:43:26 AM
Then Tree of Life. Then Public Enemies.
What we saw tonight was a masterpiece of American Horror to the by Monkey Butler	Mar 16th, 2009 07:30:34 AM
Fuck me that's a bad line.
...American Horror to the Planet Earth! by Monkey Butler	Mar 16th, 2009 07:31:14 AM
It's even worse when you can actually read the whole thing
Although I like Sam Raimi by D o o d	Mar 16th, 2009 07:32:20 AM
I didn't like Spiderman3 and, if I may, THAT review is just so over the top that it's doing this movie no favours. I think harry was more excited about being in the presence of Raimi and the experience was just a little better than what the actual movie 'probably' is. That is totally Understandable though.
The bats were PLANTS! by Cat_Corporation	Mar 16th, 2009 07:38:02 AM

Holy Shit! by Scumcock	Mar 16th, 2009 07:42:28 AM
Does Knowles only see movies with theaters full of hyper-sensitive retards? It sounds like every screening people are in throes of ectasy.
BUT, DO THE TREES HAVE SEX WITH THE CHICK?! by Mike_D	Mar 16th, 2009 08:09:25 AM
TELL US!
The trailer looks shit, totally generic... by bongo123	Mar 16th, 2009 08:12:28 AM
but hey its sam raimi so my ass will be in seat when it hits but that pg-13 trailer looked all kids of balls and lets face it, you yanks havent made a scary movie in fecking ages for proper horror i like me my asian and euro flicks and if i want some cool funny as fuck horror you can beat the brits, but if you like teens, slashers and generic shit, you cant beat hollywood!
This board reminds me of pre- nazi occupied france.... by samuraiyao	Mar 16th, 2009 08:15:26 AM
Are we living in the 40's again, jesus with all this miserable hate...
PG13 horror. How scary can it really be? by knowthyself	Mar 16th, 2009 08:21:23 AM
Really.
It's like Harry spooged onto his keyboard... by Happyfat73	Mar 16th, 2009 08:22:16 AM
... and that review was born.
Don't wanna be that guy... by DocPazuzu	Mar 16th, 2009 08:24:03 AM
...but I'm still not anything but lukewarm to cold regarding this film. It's not just Harry's dripping endorsement of the film which has failed to excite me (and not for the first time, either), but rather the triumvirate of: 1) Spidey 3 2) The phrase "The Return of True Horror" in the trailer which just seems desperate and too self-aware. 3) The phrase "spookablast". That's even worse than Arachnophobia's "thrillomedy". I want to be wrong. Drag me to Hell, Sam!
Spiderman 3 gets too much undeserved hate. by knowthyself	Mar 16th, 2009 08:24:40 AM
Venom was done wrong. But Sandman was done right. Raimi still ended his trilogy by staying true to the characters and they all had a satisfying end. Sure you have to forget the "dark suit" emo dance stuff. But to me thats not a deal breaker. Not when parts of it are fun to watch and the story still held true to what Raimi was doing with the series up to that point. Maybe people are just upset that Venom was done so poorly. Maybe Venom is stupid to begin with and would always be stupid on screen? Raimi's heart wasn't into Venom and it shows. He goes out like a punk where Sandman gets the Doc Ock "I'm not a monster" treatment. Its not perfect but its far from terrible.
Really? But the trailer was kinda lame... by sonnyfern	Mar 16th, 2009 08:28:04 AM
I hope the movie is better than that uninspired trailer...
Never judge a movie by its trailer... by samuraiyao	Mar 16th, 2009 08:30:51 AM
It's the inside that counts....
Give Raimi some credit. by knowthyself	Mar 16th, 2009 08:32:57 AM
Instead of remaking Evil Dead or doing just another Evil Dead movie. He made a new story instead. Horror fans this is the answer to your "Evil Dead 4" prayers. Now lets hope Peter Jackson makes another horror flick as well and the two masters of horror comedy can once again take their seats at the head of that table.
Plant!!! by Shepard Wong	Mar 16th, 2009 08:35:16 AM
Or not. I'm really looking forward to this. Sure my hopes have been dashed before while hoping for the next great horror movie but some day it will come.
I agree - the trailer brought my interest level to ZERO by ShiftyEyedDog2	Mar 16th, 2009 08:35:57 AM
I was interested to see Sam Raimi's return to horror, but that trailer makes it look boring, lame, and easily a "wait for rental" at best. I hope it's just bad marketing.
by DDillustration	Mar 16th, 2009 08:36:27 AM
This movie looks like The Boogeyman directed by Sam Raimi.
Nah the sandman ret-con was shit by lex romero	Mar 16th, 2009 08:40:17 AM
That fucked the character of sandman and fucked up spidey's origin story. As did "letting him go" at the end. Look Spidey I don't care if you feel like you've been able to forgive him for what happend to your uncle, he's still an escaped convict! You can't just let him go ffs! And how much crying was there? Anyway, look harry I love that you're so enthusiastic about films in your reviews but...I have no idea what this film is about or why it's scart from this review. Shouting that it's amazing and a return of true horror, but then not giving me reasons why makes it no different from some advert telling me to go see it.
omg by torpedoboy	Mar 16th, 2009 08:41:47 AM
I want to see this movie soooo bad!!! It was "Evil Dead I" which made me a horror fan in the first damn place. I saw it for the first time on "Night Flight" when I was 13.
So...can we all agree that... by knowthyself	Mar 16th, 2009 08:50:30 AM
..We all just skip the first few paragraphs of all of Harry's reviews? I can't remember the last time I actually read an entire review of his. So damn boring. I just skip to the end and surprise surprise its a gushing glowing review.
Fucked sandman? by knowthyself	Mar 16th, 2009 08:52:36 AM
Show me one comic where sandman was any deeper or more interesting? As far as involving him in Bens killing. It worked for the movie. It doesn't ruin anything about Spidermans origin. But fanboys will be fanboys. Considering how often spidermans story has been retold in the comics I think its safe to assume that much like Batman theirs nothing wrong with taking some artistic license when retelling the same old story over and over again.
well... by Don_Logan	Mar 16th, 2009 08:58:13 AM
...sounds like someone got some "pwesents" yesterday, huh? hope i'm wrong, tho.
I'm so opposite than people. by Jax	Mar 16th, 2009 08:58:51 AM
I think Spider-Man 3 gets too much undeserved hate while the Evil Dead movies get too much love. I don't know why you all are still spewing venom all over Spider-Man 3 at this time. It wasn't nearly as bad as some of you make it out, yet you'd think the movie was the worst sequel in the history of sequels. At the same time, you love Evil Dead, which is a pretty bad low budget horror that show that Raimi had promise back then, but was not yet ready for the big time. I feel pretty "meh" about this next movie and will wait to see how its received before I decide whether to see it or not. I think its a mistake releasing it at the end of May. It really feels like a late July release at the most, but really September-October. I think it could really get lost sandwiched between "Terminator 4" and "Land of the Lost".
Spiderman 3 was irredeemable shit by Lost Jarv	Mar 16th, 2009 09:03:05 AM
Evil Dead is genius. This looks meh.
I WILL WAIT FOR SOME OBJECTIVE REVIEWS by Mullah Omar	Mar 16th, 2009 09:12:30 AM
This blowjob isn't one of them.
Plant! by fishpillow	Mar 16th, 2009 09:13:26 AM
Oh wait, I mean SELL OUT
Spidey 4=NO, Evil Dead 4=YES by TiNSeLToWN TeRRoR	Mar 16th, 2009 09:20:13 AM
PLEASE skip Spidey 4, Raimi sucks with big budget flicks. Go back to your roots and do ED4, on a cheap budget. Then after ED4 just create original stuff from now on. Stick with the horror.
Yeah. Right. by neverhed	Mar 16th, 2009 09:27:47 AM
I understand that you can't fully judge a film by its trailer, but count me convinced. I refuse to believe that this film is anything other than absolute cunt-steam. I've rarely seen a trailer that convinced me so thoroughly of an awful horror film. I'll even include PROM NIGHT.
Say what you will about Spider-Man 3 by TylerDurden3395	Mar 16th, 2009 09:28:25 AM
But at least he used his powers, unlike say Part 2 where Whisky-Dick Web, threw away his suit and whined a lot.
seriously by Don_Logan	Mar 16th, 2009 09:28:47 AM
does anyone else picture ol' harry arriving at home this morning, wiping the raimi juice from the corners of his mouth with his brand new "Drag Me To Hell" towel, then climing into his "Drag Me To Hell" muu-muu, snuggling up with his Raimi doll, and gently falling into a much needed slumber?
arcadian by Don_Logan	Mar 16th, 2009 09:55:51 AM
i suspect that heavy alcohol intake took place prior to writing this review (at least i HOPE that had something to do with it). but really, isn't the third-grade-level writing style half of the charm of this joint? i'm assuming Yoko was piloting the flatbed last evening.
"People Were Screaming" "Single Best EXPERIENCE" by ThusSpakeSpymunk	Mar 16th, 2009 09:57:47 AM
Harry is one enthusiastic guy, and I give him credit for trying, but he DOES get carried away by the film experience. Those who call him out for "selling out" are wrong, IMO. I think he just gets wrapped up in the "theater experience"
I think Harry... by Davidia	Mar 16th, 2009 10:12:40 AM
Gets overly-excited for movies that are either decent to great. Look at his Indy 4 review, he actually fucking CRIED during that movie. Sometimes I think Harry's enthusiasm for flicks doesn't stem from his passion, but more from extreme emotional imbalances.
A woman is cursed after refusing a mortgage extension to an old by elwood_p_dud	Mar 16th, 2009 10:16:58 AM
I think that pretty much sums up, yet another "WTF?" review by this site. Jesus, this looks worse than that shitastic Spidey 3 he vomited out. Drag Me To Hell- flopping like a flaccid donkey dick at a theater near you!
Harry the Grand Master of Hyperbole by skimn	Mar 16th, 2009 10:17:35 AM
The Greatest Most Thrilling Awe Inspiring Life Changing Experience I've Had Outside Of My First Orgasm - And Maybe Better Than That!! Sam Raimi gave us not only The Evil Deads, and Spidey 1 and 2, two superhero movies better than anyone anticipated, but also the over-the-top joys of Darkman. The very underrated A Simple Plan and The Gift. And damn if The Quick And The Dead doesn't grab me everytime its on TNT or TBS every other weekend. A director doesn't hit a grand slam everytime up to bat, and there is more good in Spiderman 3 than bad. What worries me is Sam's record with Ghost House ain't the greatest. Boogeyman, the Grudges The Messengers, etc. 30 Days Of Night wasn't bad, though. And the PG13 rating is a concern. But shock and scares are not dependent on an R rating, so I can live with that. So I take Harry's fluid-dripping review for what it's worth, and hope Sam gives us a good ride which is all we can hope for.
BTW, gypsy curse movie... by skimn	Mar 16th, 2009 10:18:23 AM
...see Thinner...
Annnnddd wasn't this ready for release a year ago? by skimn	Mar 16th, 2009 10:19:41 AM
Not a good sign.
Spidey 2 and 3... by elwood_p_dud	Mar 16th, 2009 10:24:46 AM
sucked the shit out of my ass with a Krazy Straw. They were fucking terrible. Anyone that makes a masked super-hero movie and then has the hero unmasked for 99% of it, can't be right in the head. Either that or that cunt Tobey was feeling forgotten under the costume.
How can PG-13 bullshit be creepy? by Motoko Kusanagi	Mar 16th, 2009 10:25:33 AM
Seriously, there's only ONE movie left in 2009 that is worth seeing... A V A T A R December nothing else matters
Its always "worst ever" or "best ever" with you people. by knowthyself	Mar 16th, 2009 10:26:45 AM
Can't something have its good points AND bad points? Its either SHIT or GODLY with you people why can't it be inbetween? Its the way reasonable human beings think and react to things, you might want to give it a try. Spiderman 3 is in no way "shit". I mean even compared to movies like Elektra and Catwoman Spiderman3 still stands as one of the best comic films this generation. Especially after seeing X-Men 3 left to Ratner. Its nice to see Raimi hold onto Spidey and keep the integrity of the character going for another film. And I remember when he made spiderman 1 and 2..people loved him for this series. Now you hate him? You are the worst human beings. Truly you are.
Spider-Man 3 was a giant turd monster. by The-Warrior	Mar 16th, 2009 10:34:13 AM
And there's no toilet ever contructed large enough to flush away the anger. Sam Raimi, you seemed to learn the lesson of what not do to as taught by Batman and Robin. Then, you essentially made the Marvel comics version of Batman and Robin. A stupid, noisy, kind of gay, non-sensical romp through superhero town which feeds a diaper sandwich to logic, good screen-writing and fans of the first two films and Spider-Man in general. One villain. No Deus Ex Butler bullshit. Make us give a shit about the characters. Make the story make sense. And ONE VILLAIN. Do a better job. I remain, The Warrior. See you in Hell.
knowthyself by DocPazuzu	Mar 16th, 2009 10:41:55 AM
Worst talkbacker ever.
knowthyself... by elwood_p_dud	Mar 16th, 2009 10:44:04 AM
You're a deluded cunt if you've seen Spidey 3 and can still talk about "integrity". That was a vapid confused lump of floating shit.
PG-13 IS NOT CREEPY! by 420 Boylston St	Mar 16th, 2009 10:47:59 AM
It just not. At all. This is another sign of the pandering going on in hollywood. I hope this film fails because this film will determine what direction Universal will take The Wolf-Man. This is fucking horrible news and for horror fans. PG-13 will rule forever if the film succeeds!
elwood_p_dud by knowthyself	Mar 16th, 2009 10:52:33 AM
Thank you for proving me right.
knowthyself by Jax	Mar 16th, 2009 11:11:46 AM
I'm one of the few who really enjoyed Spider-Man 3. People act like the thing went completely off the rails compared to the first 2, but it really keeps the tone and feel of them. I agree that it isn't as good as the first 2, but it is NO WAY one of the worst comic book movies made. People also want to crap on Raimi for how Venom was handled, yet he never wanted Venom in the movie. Venom was a last minute addition by his higher ups that threw the entire production into anarchy. Raimi basically had to go with what he had, and I thought he handled it about as well as he could.
Alison Lohman is smoking hot! by sighborg	Mar 16th, 2009 11:12:29 AM
Very underrated. Nice to see her in a starring role.
PG13 not creepy!! by skimn	Mar 16th, 2009 11:14:22 AM
Gee, its too bad Hitchcock would never be able to find work nowadays...
Yes!!!! Was Raimi wearing a suit and tie? by The Reluctant Austinite	Mar 16th, 2009 11:23:02 AM
The trailer for this blew me away. Talk about timely! Until I saw it, I didn't know what to expect. I was nervous seeing the first "Spider-man" too (would Raimi be able to deliver under the restraints of a huge budget Hollywood product?) until I could see that Stan Lee's creation was in good hands. All of you TalkBack assholes that suddenly turned on Raimi because of "Spider-man 3" can kiss my butt. Sure, it's my least favorite of the three films too. Raimi was strapped with the Venom story via studio demand(which he DID NOT grow up with and didn't particularly have a feel for) and this led to some problems. But to shit on a director's entire career just because you didn't like one film is crazy. I would argue that "Spider-man 3" is Raimi's only truely unsuccessful film, and "Spider-man 2" is one of the best comic book movies ever made! It's up there with Donner's "Superman," "Iron Man" and "The Dark Knight." So bitch on if you must, and grow the hell up while you're at it.
I have an idea... by Don_Logan	Mar 16th, 2009 11:37:50 AM
OK, let's get this motherfucker goin': Let's post Harry's "Inglorious Basterds" review FOR him. I'll be working on mine throughout the day, but i want to see what you comedians out there can come up with.
I Wish I Could Trust Harry... by offroadcamry	Mar 16th, 2009 11:48:18 AM
But has he EVER written a negative review? I mean, the guy like The Spirit and Twilight! He even like My Bloody Valentine! Where's the balance? Where's the reviews of movies that WEREN'T good? At least Capone, Massawyrm, and Quint all have varying tastes...
I really wouldn't mind a new team for Spidey 4. by Knuckleduster	Mar 16th, 2009 12:06:03 PM
New director, new stars, etc. Not a "reboot", mind you. I still want it to be an official sequel, but a new direction for the franchise would be nice. And for the love of God, please give us The Lizard.
See "Journey to the Center of the Earth 3-D" by The Reluctant Austinite	Mar 16th, 2009 12:19:37 PM
See "Journey to the Center of the Earth 3D" for a review of a film Harry hated. Of course he dislikes films too! He usually just doesn't write about films that don't move him in some way. It's boring to write "meh" reviews for someone with Harry's passion for film. And "The Spirit" review wasn't a good review, just a sad realization that something he hoped would work didn't work. As far as "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" goes, I'll admit that I enjoyed it too. "Raiders of the Lost Ark" is my favorite film, but I knew there was no way this belated sequel was going to compare in any way to that classic. However, it does belong in the same class as "Temple of Doom" and "The Last Crusade." Neither of those two films is a pimple on the ass of "Raiders" but I enjoy both of them. We can argue ourselves blue in the face as to which one we like better, but I think "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" fits in with those two just fine. It's better than any of "The Mummy" movies or "Tomb Raider" movies or any of the knock-offs. It's just not the "raped my childhood" film that was "The Phantom Menace." Okay, I just put my head on the TalkBack chopping block!
knowthyself by lex romero	Mar 16th, 2009 12:19:50 PM
1. Completely agree about the "it's shit/it's awesome!" opinions that have filled the internet. I've noticed it seems to have got worse over the years, it's like no one has time for a full opinion any more that they just slump into polarised views. It annoys me a lot and I try my best to avoid it. 2. I think there are a hell of a lot of problems with Spidey 3 that are mainly down to the script, too many that I can't be bothered to go into them. But to address your point: - Spiderman's origin story is one of the few superhero origin tales that has not been changed over thet years. Location and timing may be different but the basics; that his uncle was killed by a criminal that Peter Parker refused to stop. It's incredibly important to his character because it leads to the realisation of power/responsibilty through this sense of guilt. Peter needed that shock to the system. For S3 to ret-con this and say "oh hey actually it doesn't matter if you stopped teh criminal, your uncle would still be dead!" completely betrays this. It ignores the "one man can make a difference" belief that Spidey has (and Stan Lee also says at the start of the film) and goes with this "actually you can't really do shit". It added nothing good at all other than a poor attempt at giving Spidey some anger at sandman. As for artistic license, I have nothing against it: as long as it works for the character and the film. The majority of the choices in Spidey 3 do not work in the films favour. In fact the 90s cartoon series did the sdymbiote suit better than the comic ever did. So I'm not asking for fidelity to the comics, but I am asking for a good film. As for Sandman, yep he was never a deep character. But the sub-plot "oh my poor daughter" was horrendously under developed in the film, with no conclusion at all and poorly executed. Not only that but we already had a sympathetic villian with green goblin jr. Along with venom the whole thing got bloated with unfinished character arcs and storylines. Why have a sympathetic villian with a dying daughter if we never see her again or find out what happened? Now we can do the "oh it's not Raimi's fault, he had to use venom blah blah" but that doesn't excuse the film.
hmmmmm by luffy27	Mar 16th, 2009 12:26:19 PM
sounds good though the trailer sucked much ass!
Raimi dragged me to hell... by TheMarineBiologist	Mar 16th, 2009 12:31:13 PM
...when I saw Spider-man 3.
Nice one, lex. by Knuckleduster	Mar 16th, 2009 12:32:09 PM
The 90's Spidey cartoon had a great way of introducing the Venom symbiote (it was a sample that Jameson's son brought back from Mars). Obviously they couldn't go with the original comic origin, so to me that was a pretty good solution and one that would have worked perfectly for the film (especially considering that Jameson's son and his trip to Mars was already established in Spidey 2). But what do they come up with in Spider-man 3? It just happens to crash land in the park where Peter and MJ are having a picnic! What a coincidence. Wow. Lame.
I am really suprised no one has mentioned by skimn	Mar 16th, 2009 12:35:40 PM
"How can this be ANY good? Its got Justin "annoying MAC dude" Long in it..." Alison Lohman fans..check out Where The Truth Lies with Colin Firth and Kevin "Dr Manhattan" Bacon.
Re: Virus from Mars by skimn	Mar 16th, 2009 12:37:37 PM
I think they thought that would be too similar to that god awful Species 2.
I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how the EVIL DEAD by Mr. Nice Gaius	Mar 16th, 2009 12:43:02 PM
...are any good. Don't get me wrong; I love ARMY OF DARKNESS. But the other ones are fucking overrated city. Not to mention they're un-scary. Which seems to be the case for most "horror" films these days. As for DRAG ME TO HELL, I have very little interest as I don't believe Raimi delivers genuine scares. I always get the sense that there is a lot of winking going on behind the camera. I'd love to be proven wrong but this sounds too much like a lame carnival ride.
Insert films by Mr. Nice Gaius	Mar 16th, 2009 12:43:40 PM

knunckleduster by lex romero	Mar 16th, 2009 12:44:44 PM
Cheers. Ah you reminded me of more stuff now of how awesomely they handled the story in the cartoon! As you point out Spidey 3 is filled with painfully embarressing "coincidences" to move the story along - symbiote falls next to peter, Eddie is in the same church peter is when he takes off the suit, venom and sandman bump into each other in a back alley. In the cartoon it works much more sensically - eddie is in the church because he's been following spidey to get pics of him to try adn get his job back. Which makes sense and doesn't mean we're stuck with silly coincidences. And then we have how they handle the suit and anger issues. Peter becomes a jerk and nearly kills Rhino, that's when he realises he has to take it off because of how much he's changed. But with the film, Spidey happily drowns sandman (he must think he's dead at that point) and has no issue with that. But it's when he slaps MJ that he realises it's too much? Wtf? Everyone just go download the old 90s Spiderman series, it does so many of the comics plots really well.
Where The Truth Lies. by Knuckleduster	Mar 16th, 2009 12:44:50 PM
That's the one where that chick gets her face covered with Alison Lohman's girl-cum, right? Good times.
You People Make Me Sick... by Dr Eric Vornoff	Mar 16th, 2009 12:47:22 PM
...Actually, no, I don't care that much but you do make me laugh. You refuse to believe - despite Harry's review and all the other extremely positive word of mouth - that this movie will be any good because you disliked the director's last film. Even though you liked (or loved) most of the director's previous work. Whatever.
Yep. by Knuckleduster	Mar 16th, 2009 12:48:33 PM
And that cartoon storyline juggles three bad guys (Venom, Rhino and Black Cat), and does it perfectly.
Vornoff by TheMarineBiologist	Mar 16th, 2009 12:48:42 PM
Did you SEE Spider-man 3?
Evil Dead (sp #2) isn't horror by skimn	Mar 16th, 2009 12:48:49 PM
Its 90 minutes of Bruce Campbell getting the shit kicked out of him six ways from Sunday, and funny as hell.
DR ERIC by Don_Logan	Mar 16th, 2009 12:57:30 PM
it's not that i've written him off as a director, at all. it's that i've written Harry off as a film critic (an ETHICAL one, anyway).
my fave line of this review: by thekylegassproject	Mar 16th, 2009 01:18:30 PM
"immediately replaced by onscreen scary crazy fucked up awesome brilliantly insane terrors..." harry is a nice guy i spose. but his writing...yikes. his sanctimonious stories about what a film did for his life and his exuberant gushing both often make for a cringe-worthy read. i mean, SIX consecutive adjectives harry?
Who cares if it's PG-13? by Vlad the Inhaler	Mar 16th, 2009 01:32:07 PM
Would y'all quit bitching about ratings?? About a PG-13 DRAG ME TO HELL or THE WOLFMAN? What does it matter? Who the hell cares? There's no direct correlation between a horror film's MPAA rating and its scare quotient. Ratings address issues like violence and sexuality, not content or effect. Fer chrisssakes, one of the scariest movies ever made, Robert Wise's THE HAUNTING, is rated G!
Spidey 3 was a clusterfucked trainwreck of epic proportions. by Motoko Kusanagi	Mar 16th, 2009 01:32:50 PM
Who the hell even dares to defend this steaming pile of ape dung? Yeah, only chest-bumping kids like knowthyself and Jax...
Yoko cowering beneath my jacket - as if that leather coat.. by FullBloodedScot	Mar 16th, 2009 01:35:16 PM
was a mammoth tent that could sleep 5 comfortably. People need to stop defending SM3 because Venom was forced on Raimi. Raimi sold out by not fighting that harder.
Spidey three... by Donkey_Lasher	Mar 16th, 2009 01:38:28 PM
..wasn't that awful. It was the Godfather 3 of superhero films I suppose, but doesn't deserve the hate. I do worry about Harry's excitement over this. Ever since Indy 4 I've been worried.
All I can say is out of the billion dollar grossing by skimn	Mar 16th, 2009 02:01:55 PM
three-quels of 2007 between Spiderman 3, Pirates 3, and Shrek 3, Spiderman would be the only one I'd be willing to sit through again. Damning it with faint praise, but still.
Sounds almost as good as Speed Racer by StatelyWayneManor	Mar 16th, 2009 02:04:05 PM
Wonder if JJJ will be a ninja- fighting God?
"A Simple Plan" is Raimi's best, by far. by Balcony Fool	Mar 16th, 2009 02:06:09 PM
Word.
SKIMM - BOOGEYMAN by ThusSpakeSpymunk	Mar 16th, 2009 02:12:06 PM
I actually think BOOGEYMAN gets a bad rep. I don't know if it was intentional on the part of the writer, but if you do two things, the movie becomes actually kind of incredible. All you need to do is 1) watch the original ending and 2) think of that movie as if the whole thing is inside the guy's head. It seems much more overt of a statement in the original ending than the first - but NOTHING THAT HAPPENS is literal, to me, in that flick. It's about a guy who's had a hard time of it (played well by Barry Watson) trying to get over the disappearance of his dad (who abandoned him.
"That movie rocked 10 different kinds of ass." by Sir Loin	Mar 16th, 2009 02:19:49 PM
THAT, my friends, is how you properly describe a film that you really enjoyed. "It's awesome!" is for ADD-riddled 3-year-olds.
Good Christ by vanchimera	Mar 16th, 2009 02:25:12 PM
Why the fuck do most of you even come here?
A Simple Plan by tomdolan04	Mar 16th, 2009 02:26:03 PM
Awesome flick and an interesting window into what could have been for him should he have taken that role in more traditional genres. The Spidey 3 hate, I don't hate Venom nor Sandman - I find it the bigger shame that his and MJ's relationship was portrayed with no hint of emotional truth and was shoehorned to fit the story, the actors looked bored and the Symibiote Story - which mimics the true timeless fables about the corrupting nature of power on man and how a lesser man with superpowers would turn on the world - was ridiculously low key and abrupt. I hope Drag Me To Hell evokes the best of Raimis quirkiness.
RIP OFF OF THINNER. by Warcraft	Mar 16th, 2009 02:26:33 PM
I just watched the trailer for DMTH. The story is just like thinner, getting curst by a gypsy, being able to pass the curse to someone else, etc etc, this better be good.
Spiderman 3 sucked the sucking suck by disfigurehead	Mar 16th, 2009 02:30:48 PM
So i have no hope for this. Sam is too much if a swell guy now.
Harry wasn't this positive about a movie since... by JohnRyder	Mar 16th, 2009 02:38:32 PM
Indy4
come May by cahcat	Mar 16th, 2009 02:47:34 PM
i will be first in line to see this movie! i cannot wait for my chance. Raimi is and always will be my hero!
A Simple Plan was indeed the shit... by Outlaw	Mar 16th, 2009 02:58:03 PM
Since when has Raimi ever been known for his horror films? The Evil Dead series became more comical as it progressed. ED1 was his closest, but slapstick horror, really isn't horror. That's like saying that the Three Stooges in "The Ghost Talks" was one of the scariest shorts of all time. From the looks of it, this just seems like a strait horror movie, and Raimi's horror projects have been a let down thus far: The Grudge 1 and 2 (3 later this year, I believe), and Boogeyman? I hope this turns out to be a great/good/solid film because America's imagination in horror cinema seems to be going banckrupt, but from the outside, this movie looks a bit run-of-the-mill'ish. Please, no shitty remakes, no more foreign adaptations. I can't even remember the last (truly) scary movie I saw.
Missed opportunities by imagin78	Mar 16th, 2009 02:58:46 PM
Spider-man 3 is not the worst movie ever. However, it had so many opportunities to be one of the great part threes ever. Venom should never have been in it. Gwen Stacy or Mary Jane should have died. Goblin Jr. and Spidey should not have become a buddy team at the end. The Sandman stuff is good. The Mary Jane and Peter stuff is good. It just had so much potential and blew most of it. Oh, and Boogeyman is God awful.
I'm not counting stuff Raimi only produced. by The Reluctant Austinite	Mar 16th, 2009 03:06:04 PM
Raimi helped produce a lot of stuff: Xena, Hercules, M.A.N.T.I.S., the American Grudge flicks, Boogeyman, etc. He didn't actually direct any of that stuff. If you want to look at a fairly recent horror film Raimi has directed, look no further than the Southern Gothic ghostly "The Gift".
Hard to shoot the shit than criticize the movie Harry by SomaShine	Mar 16th, 2009 03:18:08 PM
really fucking amateur man (and thats not a Bale joke)
The Gift was a great film by Outlaw	Mar 16th, 2009 03:32:03 PM
But I didn't see it as a horror movie. It had horror elements laced throughtout, but as a whole I thought it was more of a murder mystery/supernatural thriller, which never warrented an automatic "horror" label from me. It did have a great cast (even with Ted "Theadore" Logan in it), and great a great story. I see stronger connections between the Gift and A Simple Plan, than between The Gift and Drag Me to Hell(at least on the outside as I haven't seen it yet).
That should read "a great story"... by Outlaw	Mar 16th, 2009 03:34:57 PM
but who gives a fuck.
i hate Raimi for few reasons and Love Raimi for many by future help	Mar 16th, 2009 03:36:15 PM
So im up for Hell.
You do know Raimi wears a suit and tie by skimn	Mar 16th, 2009 03:54:31 PM
out of respect of the profession, and because Hitchcock wore one everyday. Raimi is of that baby boomer age that holds Hitchcock as a great influence.
And what ever struck you about Raimi thats by skimn	Mar 16th, 2009 03:56:01 PM
pretentious?
BALZACS_BALLSAC by damned	Mar 16th, 2009 03:57:50 PM
AMEN BROTHER
Did somebody... by DocPazuzu	Mar 16th, 2009 04:02:54 PM
...just defend Boogeyman? Holy God what a baked pony loaf that movie was. It's people like that who ensure that the millions keep rolling in to companies like Platinum Dunes.
knowthyself... by elwood_p_dud	Mar 16th, 2009 04:05:49 PM
Stop being such a mellow dramatic emo twat. You're already shitty life will be much more enjoyable when you don't live life according to your dirty minge.
we call for a moritorium on Harry's reviews of Raimi and Toro by BMacSmith	Mar 16th, 2009 04:28:32 PM
Raimi and del Toro reviews shouldn't even be called reviews. just call them adds or something.
are Evil Dead 2 and Tremors considered horror movies? by BMacSmith	Mar 16th, 2009 04:36:20 PM
either way, they are awesome. i just never really considered them horrors. more like comedies.
PISS ON LATINO SCRIPT REVIEW! by CopOnTheEdge	Mar 16th, 2009 04:41:34 PM
They reviewed this script a year ago and absolutely trashed it, which I knew was b.s. because I read the script years ago and it rocked. Don't trust anything Latino Review puts out. [http://tinyurl.com/c2z7fk]
BALZACS_BALLSAC...don't forget the Butler scene by future help	Mar 16th, 2009 04:44:48 PM
in Spidey 3. Never forget.
yeah, they script reviewed low...but Praised the movie by future help	Mar 16th, 2009 04:47:33 PM
http://www.latinoreview.com/ne ws/el-guapo-lets-sam-raimi-dra g-him-into-hell-6062
add me to the list by illegaltouching	Mar 16th, 2009 04:49:48 PM
unfortunately, this site has gone from being a parody of itself to something far darker and more disturbing. talkbackers, quit enabling this garbage.
Harry - Are you saying this is better than Blade 2? by hallmitchell	Mar 16th, 2009 05:05:14 PM
Because your geek emotion has spilled out big time on this review?
But Latino Review STILL trashed the script! by CopOnTheEdge	Mar 16th, 2009 05:06:50 PM
Which I read and can tell you is great and you'd say the same thing, too, because you probably know how to read a script and imagine the movie it describes. Just the fact that El Guapo's review of the film is SO positive is evidence that the script Reader was no doubt wrong. Do you really think the script could have been that bad but Raimi turned it into an amazing film?
SKIMM - BOOGEYMAN by ThusSpakeSpymunk	Mar 16th, 2009 05:10:31 PM
I actually think BOOGEYMAN gets a bad rep. I don't know if it was intentional on the part of the writer, but if you do two things, the movie becomes actually kind of incredible. All you need to do is 1) watch the original ending and 2) think of that movie as if the whole thing is inside the guy's head. It seems much more overt of a statement in the original ending than the first - but NOTHING THAT HAPPENS is literal, to me, in that flick. It's about a guy who's had a hard time of it (played well by Barry Watson) trying to get over the disappearance of his dad (who abandoned him.
balzac by skimn	Mar 16th, 2009 05:13:19 PM
If he stated he LIKENS himself to Hitchcock, I stand corrected.
Arcadian Del Sol - CASH? by ThusSpakeSpymunk	Mar 16th, 2009 05:22:17 PM
Are you joking? You don't have to pay fanboys in CASH. They're already spilling out their disposable income out their asses in the form of the "energy drinks" they use to stay up all night for marathon X-Box sessions. No - all you need to do is promise you'll smile at them the next time you see tem, so they can feel less-than-awful about themselves through the success of another by osmosis. Harry is not, in my opinion, one of these people consciously, but I think he does get carried away with being a "part" of the genre community. Truth be told? Harry is as much a part of the sci/fi/fantasy/genre community as Forrest J. Ackerman, probably one of the most overrated "personalities" in the history of the business. What did Forrest J. Ackerman ever truly create? Nothing, but he was the ultimate fanboy and he gave birth to the legions of horror "creators" today who do nothing more than recycle the materials of the past in hopes of hitting the magic formulas of their legitimately-creative forefathers. Thanks, Forry.
aintithyperbole.com by Kid Idioteque	Mar 16th, 2009 05:30:48 PM
I'm sure it's good, but not a cinematic ejaculation.
I really hope this one lives up to the hype. by Hamtaro Hentai	Mar 16th, 2009 05:39:46 PM
I generally get bored with horror movies anymore, but mostly Hollywood has been handing us shit and telling it it was gold for a while now. Raimi has the chops, so I'm hopefull.
As far as the trailer goes... by ThusSpakeSpymunk	Mar 16th, 2009 05:53:36 PM
I was nonplussed. It looked completely like THIRONETHREETEEN GHOSTS in terms of sets, production quality, etc. Remember when horror movies LOOKED BETTER than old TALES FROM THE CRYPT episodes? This is what this movie reminds me of - the supernatural TALES FROM THE CRYPT episodes on HBO that I loved in the first few seasons which got completely replaced once the studio realized people hate supernatural/fantasy material and substituted instead "Next week, on TALES FROM THE CRYPT, another murderer concocts a murder, but ends up murdered by an unexpected murderer! HEHEHEHEHEH!"
Mr. Nice Gaius by Jax	Mar 16th, 2009 05:57:11 PM
I'm with you on the "Evil Dead" films. I will never understand the crazy appeal to those films. On top of that, I really will never understand the love for Bruce Campbell. I used to think that was just a younger person thing, but then I found out a few friends my age really dig him.
All the whining about Harry..... by pdennett316	Mar 16th, 2009 06:34:41 PM
and the way he reviews is getting fucking boring. If you can't stand the way he writes and think he's a sellout....stop reading his fucking reviews!!! Harry's style hasn't changed over the years, yet every review theres some asshole whining about how they don't like his style or how his opinion has been bought. Give it up assholes, you're saying nothing that hasn't been said a million times before and he shows no sign of changing....why not make your lives that bit less miserable and stop clicking on his reviews?? Or would that be too easy? Spidey 3 is 2 years old, let it fucking go, this is a different movie with a diferent budget and a different cast, take it or leave it on it's own merits.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, wow!! by GaiustheBrave	Mar 16th, 2009 06:42:53 PM
I still have faith in Raimi. SM3 was a let-down. But, as a fan of B-movies, I didn't think it was completely unwatchable once you silenced that little voice in your head that kept saying, "Oh, come on!" Here's hoping he learned from SM3 and will, with a good script (apparently being written by someone else; a sign that Sony learned their lesson) make up for SM3 with a kickass SM4. Ideas: Give Ted a bigger part, and a costume! Let Peter grow a pair of balls, big shiny ones, and stop being a whiny pussy. Kill Bernard for being a dick and waiting 'til the end to remember what happened (old fuck). No more dancing. No more plot holes. Only one villain. Have a flashback where Sandman has a flashback and remembers he didn't kill Uncle Ben. And, hot lesbians. Amendment: Hot lesbians in coitus.
Jax... by GaiustheBrave	Mar 16th, 2009 06:44:39 PM
you're going to hell for blaspheming the name of Bruce. Just thought I'd let you know.
WOW -- Latino Review just removed all critical comments from the by CopOnTheEdge	Mar 16th, 2009 06:45:17 PM
Their site is dead to me now and I encourage you all to boycott it, as well. There were at least 4 comments when I checked it an hour ago, now only one. http://tinyurl.com/d6ak4l
PDennett=needs a Bigger Bottle(TM). by Sal_Bando	Mar 16th, 2009 06:45:35 PM
Noooooooo, as long as Harold continutes to spew out such raving drivel as this about a movie that might be LXG I level, I think everyone here is entitled to say whatever they wanna. Including youse.
Cool by deanbarry	Mar 16th, 2009 07:28:10 PM
I can dig it. I hope that he can get his "geek" cap back on for Spidey 4/5. If Drag Me To Hell is proof he hasn't lost his touch, then, Go man, Go!
Spider-Man 2----Hospital Scene by drewlicious	Mar 16th, 2009 07:32:41 PM
That was surprisingly scary. I'm curious to see what he does here when he takes the gloves off.
Harry, I beg of you.... by Davidia	Mar 16th, 2009 08:03:43 PM
Write with more composure. It isn't trolling or talkbackers being "internet dicks" of the Jay and Silent Bob Variety, when nearly 90% of this talkback is people lambasting you for your review. Sure Drag Me to Hell may have been great, maybe even fantastic, but no amount of the hyperbole you serve up is just. To see you gush like this, especially when you said you CRIED at Indy 4, puts silly and weird mental images in peoples heads and frankly, I feel embarrassed for you when I read these reviews. No one takes you seriously when you write like an 8 year old who just saw his first playboy. This is odd because the rest of the writers here at AICN write with a maturity and reserve that's miles ahead of yours it seems. I think it's time for you to take back relevance in your own site. Listen, we get it, you REALLY love movies, we do too, that's why we're here on your site. But for the love of fucking God, gain some emotional reserve and please write some coherent and balanced reviews from now on.
Sal_Bando by pdennett316	Mar 16th, 2009 08:06:30 PM
But surely everyone knows what to expect from a Harry review by now? It's tiresome reading the same old shit every time he reviews something and likes it. Change the fucking record people!! Oh, and my bottle is plenty big...go check your Mom's night stand to see just how big.
Trailer was campy, not scary... by MyManD316	Mar 16th, 2009 08:14:18 PM
From the looks of the trailer, the movie looks like a solid, campy, solidly B-movie affair. Not sure I saw any hints of "American horror classic."
Drag Me To Hell Screening by trysop	Mar 16th, 2009 08:42:11 PM
Harry - you did a wonderful job introducing Mr. Raimi last night. It was awesome when he did the pratfall on his way to the mic. And it was even cooler when I discovered that Mr. Raimi sat directly behind me during the entire film! Drag Me to Hell was one of the best cinematic experiences I've had in a long time. I know audiences are going to go crazy for it!
But Missus Dennett-- by Sal_Bando	Mar 16th, 2009 08:47:32 PM
you broke some glass and you're bleeding from the enema bag again
Hey Harry, make a "Most Anticipated of '09" list!!! by SoylentMean	Mar 16th, 2009 08:59:43 PM
This movie is certainly on the top of mine. Do some stuff to generate discussions and therefore (spoiler) drive traffic to the site.
Jax by Mr. Nice Gaius	Mar 16th, 2009 09:28:04 PM
Well, I love Bruce Campbell but I don't love all-things-Bruce Campbell. Glad to see someone else who finds the whole EVIL DEAD thing strange.
Evil Deads were good because... by Davidia	Mar 16th, 2009 09:35:26 PM
They were unique, well at least as unique as they could be. Evil Dead 1 was an overrated little indie flick ya, but Evil Dead 2 always holds a special place in my heart. Not that I ever really found it scary, but the movie is having so much fun with itself it's hard not to go along.
Evil Dead "overrated little indie flick"???? by SoylentMean	Mar 16th, 2009 09:47:41 PM
Don't be dissing my childhood memories pal. I never looked at porch swings the same after that movie.
EVIL DEAD is one of the few films... by LoneGun	Mar 16th, 2009 09:58:57 PM
...to convincingly portray an occurrence of demonic possession. That film and its first sequel are absolutely fearless in their depiction of supernatural sickness and brutality. Truly amazing horror films. Raimi is still a fine director but he has NEVER repeated that level of brilliance. As for DRAG ME TO HELL, I truly hope the movie is better than its trailer, which was merely loud and annoying. It gave me headache. Still, I'm very curious about Raimi's return to the genre.
LoneGun, exactly by SoylentMean	Mar 16th, 2009 10:04:44 PM
I saw The Exorcist after seeing The Evil Dead and somehow I felt prepared for what I was watching.
i always thought Evil Dead 2 was so good because it was so bad. by BMacSmith	Mar 16th, 2009 10:24:08 PM
i mean, bad in a good way. it hink its much beter if you watch it thinking they were trying to make a serious movie, which might be the case.
BMac, nope by SoylentMean	Mar 16th, 2009 10:29:48 PM
Intended camp and general over-the-topness was what they were going for. Movies like The Evil Dead 1 & 2 and Peter Jackson's Brain Dead/Dead Alive are so awesome because they were made with creativity, on a mini budget, requiring skill and ingenuity to get the finished product on screen. There is not one single thing about Evil Dead 2 that is bad.
Evil Dead 3 fucking sucked. by scriptgirl_nipples	Mar 17th, 2009 12:25:16 AM
And it's been 27 years. Let it fucking die.
Agreed, Soylent by dacanesta	Mar 17th, 2009 12:25:36 AM
and wont even add to it. I could but ill blab on so that last line will suffice as a summary.
and scriptgirl.... by dacanesta	Mar 17th, 2009 12:28:05 AM
as Bill Hicks talked about: is there a shelf life? Coz its old is it not relevant? Its only talked about coz this is a Sam Raimi talkback, no one brings up Evil Dead much when its not necessary, but yeah.....talkback on a Sam Raimi film, why let it lie? Or die, or whatever. Its a class film.
Next Steven Spielberg film.... by dacanesta	Mar 17th, 2009 12:31:06 AM
im bringing up Jaws. Even older. Still one of the best films ever. Older films are fun to talk about as has been said in a separate thread coz they are discussed properly now without hype."I can do anything i'm the chief of police". Jaws is class!
Hang on... Raimi ISN'T Directing Evil Dead 4!? by scriptgirl_nipples	Mar 17th, 2009 12:35:14 AM
Thank fucking goodness.
Spiderman 3 could have been worse by BrainFart	Mar 17th, 2009 01:10:51 AM
larry david was asked to be vulture but since he turned it down they went an entirely different direction.
I was totally digging the trailer and then.... by Diazanon	Mar 17th, 2009 02:48:05 AM
Bam. Mac Fag. Totally ruined it for me.
Jax- You like SM3 and dislike the Evil Dead films? by Walterego	Mar 17th, 2009 06:28:25 AM
How is life in Bizarro World? With the possible exception of The Quick & The Dead, Spider-Man 3 was Raimi's worst film. Much worse than Darkman. The Evil Dead films (at least ED2 & AOD) largely depend on Campbell's charisma to entertain. The Evil Dead films are undeniably very good, as evidenced by the fact that Raimi was given the job of directing Spider-Man. No Evil Dead, no Spider-man with Raimi. Instead Roland Emmerich or Tim Burton or Chris Columbus would have directed it.
Soylent... by GaiustheBrave	Mar 17th, 2009 07:12:45 AM
I never looked at tree branches the same.
Spiderman 3 was the biggest disapointment by natecore	Mar 17th, 2009 07:44:29 AM
of my film going life. I've never been so hyped to see it a film. I preordered tickets in 2 different towns on opening day. I still question why I ever went through w/ that 2nd viewing. I cry when I think about SM3. I haven't even watched SM2 since that faithless day.
Phantom Menace>Matrix 3>Spidey 3 by StatelyWayneManor	Mar 17th, 2009 08:02:24 AM
As far as want be as feeling stupid for buying a ticket. I saw clips of DMTH at Comicon. The gypsy reminded me of that newspaper boy in Better Off Dead that wanted his $2 dollars.
So the most feared of demons ... by Shan	Mar 17th, 2009 09:26:15 AM
... has to go to the bank to beg for an extension on their mortgage? Well, that is probably true to life as there appears to be no fear of Satan by the banking industry.
Hail to the King! by CuervoJones	Mar 17th, 2009 09:48:42 AM
Sam Raimi is a hack because in Spiderman 3 people danced, and i can´t dance because i´m fat and shy and it that movie wasn´t like my beloved comic strip. Just kidding. Evil Dead, Darkman, A Simple Plan, The Quick and the Dead... Raimi rules.
AVATAR will... by invictus005	Mar 17th, 2009 10:08:18 AM
Be fucking your eyeballs in December!!!!!!
Middling at best by Morton	Mar 17th, 2009 11:20:50 AM
Hey, I love Raimi too but this is too silly for a psychological horror movie and not wild enough for a cult horror film. It's half-hearted. On the other hand, if someone had let a BAT loose in the theater I was in I'll sure bet people would have been screaming...
The Quick and the Dead by runfoodrun	Mar 17th, 2009 12:40:11 PM
is a fun, fun western, stop dumping on it!
Spiderman 3 was shit, no argument by Lost Jarv	Mar 17th, 2009 12:51:35 PM
but it wasn't the biggest disappointment. TPM will forever hold that honour.
The fact that most of this talkback is dedicated to Spiderman by Sick Fixx	Mar 17th, 2009 01:01:38 PM
than the actual subject, Drag Me to Hell, should show Raimi that no one gives a shit about 'new projects' of his. We want Evil Dead, or Spiderman, and that's it. What the fuck does this film think it is coming out of nowhere when Bruce Campbell is sitting around collecting royalties, READY and WILLING to resume the role of Ash but having to wait around on Sam's sorry ass.
Some of Sam's best work has noth to do with ED or Spiderman by Lovecraftfan	Mar 17th, 2009 01:04:37 PM
It's just said that is being ignored.
FUCK, Harry!!! by Sick Fixx	Mar 17th, 2009 01:05:27 PM
There's nothing even discernible in this review regarding the plot. All you did was talk about the reactions of famous people to the film. I still have no idea what Drag Me to Hell is about, and I really don't care. Sam Raimi should have learned by now not to try and be different when he's already established two other franchises. I mean, there was a time when we could have had a Phantasm movie with Ash squaring off against the Tall Man. You realize that!? WHY THE FUCK DID WE HAVE TO MISS OUT ON THAT FOR THIS TEPID, MEDIOCRE BULLSHIT!? And I'm astonished Legend of the Seeker has lasted as long as it has. I read the Goodkind series and enjoyed it for what it was, but even with its Randian/Objectivist overtones, it rarely managed to climb above standard, cookie cutter fantasy. Hardly worth taking time away from Evil Dead or Spiderman for.
Why you people ripping on Harry? by Jax	Mar 17th, 2009 01:13:02 PM
I know it's kinda like, "All the kids are doin' it," but it makes no sense. The dude gives you some info and you tear him a new one for it? Geez, where's YOUR film website where you talk to Sam Raimi? Oh, that's right, you don't talk to Sam Raimi about his cool new movie. Lighten up, people. It's amazing Harry doesn't just shut this site down with all the negativity he gets.
Harry at his worst by whitty	Mar 17th, 2009 01:15:16 PM
That was one of the worst reviews I've ever seen Harry write--and given how piss-poor a writer he is, that is saying a lot. What a big sack of crap.
Jax by whitty	Mar 17th, 2009 01:19:04 PM
Jax, did you remember to clean your face after kissing Harry's ass? "Oh, that's right, you don't talk to Sam Raimi" Give me a break, Jax--reaching any star or director for an interview isn't difficult. There are tons and tons of websites and magazines that do it every day. You can reach any director or actor through their respective guilds, simply by dialing the guild's phone number and asking for the contact info of their agent/management. Why, then, are you so impressed that Harry met Sam Raimi? Big deal. It apparently hasn't made Harry any better a writer.
There's no way AVATAR will open this year... by CopOnTheEdge	Mar 17th, 2009 01:21:28 PM
There's nowhere near the amount of 3d theaters. Dreamworks Ani is f'd with Monsters vs. Aliens -- they had planned for there to be twice as many 3d theaters out there. Cameron has been adamant about Avatar being a 3d experience from top to bottom, so I have a sinking feeling he's going to pull it until 2010. Haven't read anything, but this seems like a natural move for the Master.
whitty by Jax	Mar 17th, 2009 01:29:45 PM
"reaching any star or director for an interview isn't difficult." - Well then, go start your own site where you get to interview directors. Why come here and tear Harry a new one. "It apparently hasn't made Harry any better a writer." - If you hate Harry's writing, then why do you read ANYTHING he writes? Skip it. Or go to a different site. No, instead, you took time to read it, then come down to the talkbacks and spew a bunch of hatred toward the man that runs the site. Seriously. How screwy do you have to be to actually take the time to read an article you know you'll hate, and then leave negative comments about how "That was one of the worst reviews I've ever seen Harry write--and given how piss-poor a writer he is, that is saying a lot. What a big sack of crap." And what a name you called him at the end. What a way to treat a fellow human being who had the audacity to write a review about a movie on his own site.
I'd be willing to pay for... by GaiustheBrave	Mar 17th, 2009 01:37:28 PM
Bruce's weight watchers if it meant ED4. C'mon, Bruce! What is a god in human form doing with so flabby a vessel? Sure, I know he could, if he wanted, just change his body with the powers of Hara Bruce, but I feel there's a deeper lesson he's trying to teach all of us about gaining weight and losing it the hard way: lipo or band. CopOnTheEdge, I kinda agree. We just got our very first IMAX in New Orleans that plays movies that don't involve the sea or dolphins, and it just played its very first 3D movie three weeks ago. Idn't that pathetic?
JAX by Don_Logan	Mar 17th, 2009 01:55:40 PM
if Harry shuts the site down, think what'll happen to all the PWESENTS!!!!
Why we trash on Harry.. by skimn	Mar 17th, 2009 02:08:40 PM
Its BECAUSE he has this site, and when studios use quotes from Mr. Knowles himself to sell their product, ie. blurbs in the past month on Sex Drive and W. DVDs alone, that we take Harry to task when he flies off the handle gushing praise on a movie. I would not be suprised in the least to see a poster or TV ad with the quote "single most satisfying film experience I've had - maybe ever" attched to it. THAT'S WHY JAX.
well stated. by Don_Logan	Mar 17th, 2009 02:10:23 PM

skimn by Jax	Mar 17th, 2009 02:15:41 PM
Then why do you come here? There are lots of other movie sites on the nets, so why come to this one? And so what if they use his blurbs? Why do you really care? I just don't understand the hatred and anger. You don't like Harry's writing. Fine. You don't like that he is quoted in blurbs. Great. Yet you still take the time to come to his site, read what he writes, and comment on it in talkbacks. Seriously, what are you guys getting out of it?
At SXSW, Raimi actually said.... by scriptgirl_nipples	Mar 17th, 2009 02:28:26 PM
he plans to hire a new director to steer a fourth, more professional looking Evil Dead instalment. And it will be a remake of his 1981 original.
Jax by skimn	Mar 17th, 2009 02:54:56 PM
I don't take it personally or care that Harry's quotes are used as advertising blurbs. I feel that the studios are taking advantage of Harry's hyperbole, thats all. And if we are being critical, is it not common to bite the hand that feeds us? And I come here for the lively TB's that the information or reviews instigate, as much as the info itself. How many times have a TB started on one subject and veered off on a different tangent? Lets say I come for the topics and reviews and stay for the TBs.
So he trusts his vision so little by Sick Fixx	Mar 17th, 2009 03:18:30 PM
that he remakes his own shit? And the second most popular franchise he has? What could possibly be gained from a reboot? It won't be the same, even if he remakes it with Bruce Campbell. If he doesn't use Bruce Campbell, the future of Evil Dead is FUCKED. You know, back in the 80's and 90's, we all complained about the voracious amount of sequels that were coming out, but I'd much prefer those now to the multitudes of remakes, reboots and reimaginings we're getting on a monthly basis now. Why should I have to suffer through someone's interpretation of someone else's work? Can they not create their own material?
Jax by whitty	Mar 17th, 2009 03:22:00 PM
JAX WROTE: "What a big sack of crap." And what a name you called him at the end. What a way to treat a fellow human being who had the audacity to write a review about a movie on his own site. Now you're just trying to stir up trouble. I was referring to the article, not Harry. I don't know Harry and have no reason to call him a big sack of crap. Stop trying to create trouble.
You can't really slam Harry's reviews of films by Rob0729	Mar 17th, 2009 03:46:23 PM
Because Harry has never actually reviewed a film in his life. I have been reading his "reviews" for years and he seems to love to talk about everything other than the actual film he is reviewing. I do find his reviews interesting at times, but I have never gotten a true sense of what the movie is about, what aspects really work, and whether I will like it based on Harry's reviews.
Rob0729 by whitty	Mar 17th, 2009 04:36:29 PM
Well put! That is exactly the problem I have with Harry's reviews--he has no idea how to write them. He never reviews any films. He just rambles on incessantly about stuff that has nothing to do with the film. He's easily the worst writer on this site, and the least credible.
Harry.. by big_twinkie	Mar 17th, 2009 07:04:32 PM
why don't you try dragging your fat ass to a gym?
I've been watching Spiderman 3 on starz... by darthpigman	Mar 17th, 2009 07:52:37 PM
and I find it extremely entertaining. I've been watching it everyday and of course it's shitty for all the reasons people say, but it's highly watchable. I've got news for you people, the first two are not that much better. The same shittiness from part three is just beneath the surface of the first two films and occasionally it peaks out like in the elevator scene from part 2 with Hal Sparks.
scriptgirl just ruined what survived of my day by GaiustheBrave	Mar 17th, 2009 07:52:55 PM
Rob0729: exactly! I read Harry's reviews for fun and read Quint's and Massy's reviews when deciding whether or not to see a film
Watchmen sucked huge hairy balls by Hamtaro Hentai	Mar 17th, 2009 08:56:55 PM
That being said, I have high hopes for this. Can't wait!
Matrix 2 and 3 are still worse than TPM and Spidey 3 by BMacSmith	Mar 17th, 2009 09:09:17 PM
not by much, but still. they are all bad on an epic scale, and i'm prett sure Harry liked all 3.
I think you mean PG-13 isn't gory. by yodaismyhomie	Mar 17th, 2009 09:09:54 PM
PG-13 can indeed be creepy. Because creepiness doesn't get R-ratings. It is sex and gore that leads to R-ratings..if properly done, PG-13 can be FAR superior to R. Hell...Poltergeist carries a PG rating and most people my age (30-35) will tell you that movie scared the piss out of them when they first saw it.
err 4 by BMacSmith	Mar 17th, 2009 09:10:12 PM
counting is for pussies
And Spidey 3... by yodaismyhomie	Mar 17th, 2009 09:13:27 PM
Wasn't terrible. It just wasn't as great as 1 & 2. Venom should have been in another movie, but it was a thoroughly enjoyable movie. It was much better than the Batman sequels (Kilmer, Clooney) and probably would have received rave reviews if not for the superior first two films of the franchise.
So Sam Raimi is back now?? by Evangelion217	Mar 17th, 2009 10:25:21 PM
SWEET!!!!!!! :)
PLANT!!! HARRY IS A PLANT!!! by Missing Dink	Mar 18th, 2009 02:53:17 AM
Harry is a plant!!! Or more of a vegetable. Ever seen this guy try to move around?
I WILL NEVER FORGIVE RAMI 'S GREEN GOBLIN by alucardvsdracula	Mar 18th, 2009 03:12:32 AM
Sorry but he took an iconic comic book villain and turned him into a power ranger. He should never be forgiven for this atrocity. Never. The rest of his Spiderman villans were okay, sure, as was his Spidey - but his Gobliin, that, thing... still hurts all these years later.
Spidey 3's Saturday Night Fever bit by Baryonyx	Mar 18th, 2009 06:46:19 AM
I thought that whole disco-dude scene was hilarious. Okay, it shouldn't have been in a Spider-Man movie but, well, that silly, non-serious sequence IS the kind of thing that Raimi has done in other films, so it surprises me that other people were surprised when Raimi did it. What we need is, as others have said, a decent Marvel-owned movie revamp of Spidey.
Raimi's Green Goblin by SutterCane	Mar 18th, 2009 07:43:52 AM
When people complain about how Raimi supposedly made a travesty of the Green Goblin, do they really think that a version more faithful to the look of the comic - complete with purple booties and a pocketbook - would've been so much better? The Green Goblin has a look that screams 'lame'. What's more, it makes no sense for Osborne to think to dress that way. It never did in the comic and it would've been an even harder sell in the movie. All things considered, Raimi did the best he could with adapting the character.
Green Goblin = Jet Jaguar by StatelyWayneManor	Mar 18th, 2009 08:00:22 AM
Y'know...from the Godzilla movies?
More interested in this than Spiderman 4 by zapano	Mar 18th, 2009 08:23:26 AM
Spiderman 3 was pretty average, and obviously suffered from the "too many villains" trend in blockbuster sequels. Harry seems pretty unequivocal about this, unlike Watchmen. On a seperate note, anyone notice that both Spiderman and Watchmen displayed fine examples of Poweranger fighting?
SutterCane by damned	Mar 18th, 2009 08:28:35 AM
I absolutely think a true to comic version of The Green Goblin could have worked. He's one of the most visually appealing and iconic characters in comics to this day. I was thrilled when it was revealed that Willem DaFoe would play him because frankly he looks like The Green Goblin already, so I assumed Raimi was going the prosthetic and makeup route. Boy was I wrong. Wasted opportunity.
What happened man? by Vishnu	Mar 18th, 2009 08:32:43 AM
I don’t know what happened to you Harry, but you are by far the weakest link in the review chain these days. I used to really look forward to your reviews as they contained such passion but were balanced with a sense of responsibility and objectivity. You also had an uncanny knack of telling me so much about the film without spoiling it in the slightest. These days your reviews read like either love letters to all your great mates in the film industry or amateur pieces written by someone who has only seen about 10 films and has just learnt English in the past five years. They really are incoherent messes that often induce headaches. I could not care less about how really really really excited everyone in the theatre was and all the other boring insider information. I just want to know about the film and get a balanced view from someone who is privileged enough to see these films long before I ever will. With great power comes great responsibility.
My soul is still aching. by StatelyWayneManor	Mar 18th, 2009 08:36:59 AM
I would have gone for the Alex Ross design...medieval Green Goblin. The James Franco Goblin looked more like a skier than a villain.
James Franco by Baryonyx	Mar 18th, 2009 10:02:21 AM
James Franco was one of the best things in Spider-Man 3. His acting was fine, I thought (though his villain costume wasn't so hot.)
Mysterio for Spidey 4... by Kid Z	Mar 18th, 2009 11:08:24 AM
...No more misunderstood dudes altered by whacked out comic book science experiments gone wrong. Make him really, disgustingly evil. And cast Bruce Campbell in the role. If there simply must be a second villain, then make it The Vulture, another good evil, arrogant prick in the Spidey rougues gallery, though a different sort of evil, arrogant prick than Mysterio. Allan Arkin would be my pick if he can drop a few pounds.
"We want Evil Dead, or Spiderman, and that's it." by Kid Z	Mar 18th, 2009 11:12:32 AM
Well, another Raimi directed Darkman would be nice. I know you'll never get Neeson again, but at least with Raimi a new entry would kill some of the stink from those direct-to-video sequels.
Harry's reviews haven't been the same... by Kid Z	Mar 18th, 2009 11:22:26 AM
...since he got married. It's like he's in a gushing, overly long honeymoon state. Of course he doesn't really have a job, he can stay up all night and sleep until 3 PM, he gets to hang with cool people, money's probably good and Austin is a fun town. No wonder the usual marital screaming matches over money and boredom never set in. Hence, Harry has never regained any snarky cynicism not to mention the near-psychotic grimness common to most married dudes. I'm divorced, so the psychosis and cynicism is an integral part of my being, but I digress. Harry's just too goddamn happy anymore. He should leave the reviews to his compatriots and just post his usual E! Channel-esque celebrity gushes... just label them as such.
I just wish Harry would... by Davidia	Mar 18th, 2009 12:32:37 PM
Start writing with a clearer head. These gushing reviews as I said before are just embarrassing reads. He obviously has the intelligence since he's gotten as far as he has in life, but I think he lets his "passion" get the best of him. He is without a doubt the worst reviewer on this site, and that's sad considering this is HIS site.
Harry, where are this week's DVD reviews? by SoylentMean	Mar 18th, 2009 01:03:00 PM
It's fuckin' Wednesday. I need to know what I should have bought yesterday, today dammit!
Trailer by thecheesegrommit	Mar 18th, 2009 03:46:42 PM
I just watched the trailer and while I'm not a geekazoid for horror i do like when it is done well. But anyone who does not think that trailer looks GREAT!!! is dead already... inside.
this is my favorite Harry-ism by LarryTate	Mar 18th, 2009 04:37:06 PM
from above: "What we all experienced was a resounding thunderous splitting of the Earth around us experience tonight. "
Just watched the trailer...yikes...this looks BAD. by Ash Talon	Mar 18th, 2009 07:14:25 PM
Someone nailed it earlier with the observation about a powerful demon needing a bank loan. What a terrible setup with the whole "you have to make tough decisions" bit. Lighting looks terrible. Lohman just doesn't impress me, either. Old witches just aren't scary in this day and age. Seances are completely overplayed as well. In fact, this looks like a Roger Corman production...only more expensive.
by thegreatwhatzit	Mar 18th, 2009 07:42:23 PM

A review or a valentine?? by thegreatwhatzit	Mar 18th, 2009 07:57:03 PM
"I had a day of wonderful film today. I met directors. I think I spent an hour just shooting the shit with Raimi at some point today...There's no shrugged shoulders or indifferent souls that exited that theater tonight. What we all experienced was a resounding thunderous splitting of the Earth around us experience tonight." This sort of prose invokes a juvenile's scribble ("My Day at the Circus") or typical "Fangoria" (press release) filler. Name dropping, hyperbole, kiss-ass circumvention of professional analysis. Jesus, it's like "reading" a coloring book. I've interviewed celebrities but decline the annoying (Eddie Hascal) habit of pretending they acknowledge me as one of their own. Fanboy + desperation=this review.
Harold---your Natasha Richardson article? by Sal_Bando	Mar 18th, 2009 09:36:32 PM
Yes?
Massa by mrbonefish	Mar 18th, 2009 11:03:31 PM
After reading your retarded post concerning Watchmen, I just can't take anything you write seriously.
All you skeptics by Unicornhole	Mar 19th, 2009 02:19:55 AM
I can't wait until you see the film and realize that it will rock your brains out. I, too, am a skeptic of PG-13 horror films, but this nailed it. It's so...well, gross, that it's hard for me to consider it PG-13, though. LOVE THE SHIT OUT OF THIS MOVIE. It's been too long...too too long.
Well said, thegreatwhatzit by whitty	Mar 19th, 2009 02:43:33 PM
thegreatwhatzit wrote: "I've interviewed celebrities but decline the annoying (Eddie Hascal) habit of pretending they acknowledge me as one of their own. Fanboy + desperation=this review." That's EXACTLY the problem with Harry's writing. He comes off like a child unable to write. There is NO way Raimi or other people Harry meets see him as an equal--they tolerate him, at most. Harry is the epitome of everything celebrities hate--and, in person, he smells awful.
Spidey 3 did eat crusty spuge.. by mojoman69	Mar 19th, 2009 06:42:15 PM
But, I liked Spidey 3 the best of the bunch. Doc Ock is the ultimate Spidey villian and he was done justice there. I hated the Green Goblin Robot suit. Shy not go with the original? Spidey 3 was just bad. it looked like Raimi had burned out. I am glad he is returning to horror and hope that he continues to do so. I would like to see someone else (Snyder) try Spidey. WE need Mysterio, Electro, the Scorpion and a team up with Daredevil would be nice. Hint Hint. (not fucking Ben Asslick either)
Awww...Poor Sam. by ChicagoGangster	Mar 19th, 2009 09:16:33 PM
Stop saying that the studio "forced" Raimi to include Venom in SM3. Each of the first two films made a BILLION DOLLARS. Poor 'lil Sam just HAD to make a shitty movie with an emo retard. Give me a freakin' break. He f'ed up and made a terrible, terrible movie. That's all. Stop making excuses. Now he's made a PG-13 pile of crap. Harry's review will go down as one of the stupidest things I've ever read. I feel like I'm covered in geek jizz now. Sam, go away and leave horror to people that care. SM3 was the work of a director that doesn't give a shit. Oh, and Harry: for Christ's sake, learn how to write!
"Stupidest?" by whitty	Mar 19th, 2009 11:19:44 PM
ChicagoGangster wrote: "Harry's review will go down as one of the stupidest things I've ever read." So will that sentence. ("Stupidest?" Seriously? And you're telling Harry to learn how to write? Mind you, I agree--he can't write worth shit. But come on, man...the irony is just too good not to acknowledge.)
Point Taken by ChicagoGangster	Mar 20th, 2009 12:14:16 AM

There's NOTHING iconic about Green Goblin by Sick Fixx	Mar 20th, 2009 03:27:40 AM
He's an inbetween pale imitation. He's a pale imitation of the Hobgoblin and has his own pale imitation, Demogoblin. An icon has to be able to stand on its own, and Greenie doesn't do that.
What, what, what? by StatelyWayneManor	Mar 20th, 2009 08:08:41 AM
The Green Goblin is an imitation of the Hobgoblin? Right now; there is a nerd screaming in his parents basement.
Fine, I'm wrong by Sick Fixx	Mar 20th, 2009 09:24:14 PM
About who came first, but it doesn't change the fact that there are three different Goblins running around in the Spideyverse, and I don't give a fuck about any of them. What does a goblin have to do with a spider?
"Knowing" anyone? by jofex	Mar 22nd, 2009 01:27:35 AM
Mar 22nd, 2009 01:21:20 AM What the hell fan sight is this??? The first film by Alex Proyas in years and years is out, its damn interesting and cool and waaay smack in the middle of this sight's wheelhouse... and not a peep from anybody. WTF!?!?!?!?
Agreed, jofex. I'm more interested in Proyas than Raimi by football	Mar 22nd, 2009 04:16:16 PM
I know Harry and Raimi are chums who share everything including their love for eachother, but what about the "Knowing"? It's No.1 in the US box office and is directed by the very interesting pospect of Proyas of Dark City and I Robot. Who gives a fuck about a lame horror movie with a PG-13 rating, apart from bed-wetting children?
This looks TERRIBLE by moviemo	Mar 22nd, 2009 11:45:45 PM
and KNOWING was pretty damn awesome, ESPECIALLY the ending. The only people I've come across who didn't like it are 1. fundamentalists in fear of their religion being challenged 2. non-religious people irritated by anything remotely spiritual, and 3. cynical critics whose opinion never really matters in the first place. I'm NOT saying KNOWING is incredible and life-alterning, just an entertaining 2 hours, which is what the fuck a movie should be. Anything beyond that, well, you're bringing in your own experience and laying it on the film. People with extreme emotional responses to something as trivial as a film ought to get tuned out like the braying bitches they are.
Harry speaking in Robot-Voice by Unfilmable_Blue_Dong	Mar 22nd, 2009 11:50:49 PM
Like that geek from "Grandma's Boy". That's the image I get from that 'review'. An image of Harry in his matrix jacket the size of a queen-size mattress.
Wait, what? by Nadine_Cross	Mar 23rd, 2009 08:21:24 AM
How did that old gypsy lady who wondered in from central casting even afford a house in the first place? And she conjures up the worst possible demon for the girl who denies her extention? Wow. I'd hate to see what she did to the kid who forgot her extra whip at the Starbucks. This is Thinner meets Pumpkinhead meets...oh...The Ring.
If anyone has any doubts about the movie by Azby	Mar 23rd, 2009 10:47:59 AM
From that slightly shitty trailer needs to watch this. http://tinyurl.com/ahrut7 Shows how a PG-13 horror could actually kick ass.
Oh yeah its funny as fuck too ^^^ by Azby	Mar 23rd, 2009 10:52:53 AM

Why Britney is dating at richpassion.com？ by iamalice1	Mar 25th, 2009 04:11:37 AM
So does some other celebrities,Hilton,sheen,Macdo nna...are dating online too,but i am not sure which site they are using...
Looks like fun.... by moviemo	Mar 28th, 2009 09:07:22 PM
...but not scary. They don't make horror like they used to. And Last House On The Left (remake) was just insulting.
True, Nadine, not to mention... by Melis	Mar 29th, 2009 07:25:23 PM
If the old lady can summon demons to construct horribly complicated curses, can't she get a demon to front her some $$ for the mortgage? What a waste of perfectly good demon rapport.
so all of you read harry's review, right? by tattoodrake	May 3rd, 2009 08:59:14 PM
then quit bashing the man, he enjoyed the movie. eat a dick. if you hate his reviews so much and all that, don't read them. simple as that dorks
Hear Hear by Orcus	May 5th, 2009 01:23:09 PM

Massawyrm, you are a dick by Drunken Rage	Jun 1st, 2009 07:04:58 PM
Damn, could you suck any harder? It's an average movie AT BEST.
"Pumpkinhead" is "Citizen Kane" compared to this by Drunken Rage	Jun 1st, 2009 07:06:47 PM
This is just a throw-away episode of "Tales From the Crypt."
Finally saw it today... by Shepard Wong	Jun 4th, 2009 02:59:42 PM
It couldn't end fast enough. Just aweful. Not scary. Not funny. Not fun.
Drag the Audience to Movie Hell by Autodidact	Jun 5th, 2009 06:57:59 PM
Harry, this is the second time in a year I was disinterested in something, but saw it based on your gushing review. The last time was Eagle Eye, possibly the worst movie I ever bought a ticket for. When am I gonna learn? This movie was completely predictable and just really fucking stupid. Then it ended at what I thought was the beginning of the 3rd act, not the fucking end of the movie. Honestly I'd watch Spider-Man 3 over this movie any day. I'd watch pretty much ANY film before I'd volunteer to watch this piece of shit again. Why did every scene involve something disgusting going into Allison Lohman's mouth? It happened once in Evil Dead 2, so let's have it happen in every goddamn scene? Fuck you Sam Raimi.
KNOWING Fucking Sucked Too by Autodidact	Jun 5th, 2009 07:00:12 PM
I hated Knowing. Not as much as this movie, but quite a bit. Especially the ending. God what a dumb fucking ending.
Mrs Ganush was an eating disorder by iremonger	Jun 9th, 2009 09:01:15 AM
Lohman spent the entire film battling against her as she used to be fat. Mrs Ganush kept trying to put stuff in her mouth because she had demonised food.Then she threw herself under a train once she realised she could never escape her illness. Or something...
Lamest movie I've seen all year....... by Otis_Burg	Jun 12th, 2009 11:03:58 PM
This movie was so predictable and lame. When the goat started talking I was out. Rami couldnt go 5 minutes without the stupid quick editing into something loud and jumping out at you. And everyone saw the ending coming 12 miles away.....I want my money back.
Why did Harry talk about the humour? by Avon	Jun 14th, 2009 12:14:41 PM
This is probably the funniest, most hilarious thing I've seen in absolutely ages. Yes I was scared, but the laugh I had at a dead corpse puking out green shit into the face of our cursed lead was priceless. And the images of the Gypsy, like in the shed with the eyes.. you know the one I mean. Sure the movie deserved hype, but probably didn't get 'enough' of it for what it really is: a black comedy. A black b-movie comedy.
This Film Was Brilliant. It was NOT "Shlock" Horror by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 09:54:43 AM
First of all, Mrs. Ganush is NOT the villain of the piece. Raimi has said in interviews that she is the VICTIM of the story. People keep making the mistake of seeing the Thing in the parking lot, who lays the "curse" on Christine, as the actual old lady who Christine was cruel to. It's not, it's the Demon in the form of the old lady, and the "curse" is just a trick of the Demon to get Christine to damn herself.
The "Comedy" isn't really funny. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 09:56:44 AM
All the "comedy" involves Demon induced nightmares in which Christine is trapped. The "anvil" gag? It's an illusion created by the Demon ... not particularly funny.
The only flaw is Allison Lohman trying to do "Anger" by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 09:59:10 AM
Raimi pulls a pretty brilliant performance out of her... the nice girl she does pretty effortlessly, and he manages to get a creepy hearlessnes out of her when he needs it, but when she's asked to do true anger, she falls down a bit. But you can see what Raimi was going for, and it's just brilliant.
The shocks are fantastic. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 10:00:52 AM
This is the scaries movie I've seen since "The Exorcist", I believe.
The Dinner scene was fantastic. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 10:02:42 AM
And the lady playing the boyfriend's Mom was FANTASTIC. So snotty and mean.
I haven't seen "The Evil Dead", and I'm glad. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 10:04:44 AM
I was able to watch this without going "Hey, that's a reference to evil Dead!" And I think Raimi wanted to people to experience it that way, not just as a reference festival.
I like the ambiguity of the Film. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 10:07:20 AM
Did the old lady cast the curse in the bank, or did a Demon briefly possess her, called forth by Christine's cruelty? (The thing in the parking lot is definitely NOT the old lady ... come one, projectile firing of rulers jammed down one's throat, putting stars in the glass of the car?)
I think the way Christine was warned constantly was great. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 10:11:04 AM
In the beginning, the Fortune Teller asks her if she has blasphemed the dead while visiting a graveyard (to cause a dark spirit to descend upon her) has she consulted a Ouji board, or consorted with practitioners of the black arts. She says "No!" but by the end of the movie, she's done all but consult a ouiji board (but maybe consulting with a fortune teller counts for that).
I like that the title is "Drag Me To Hell" not "Drag Her To Hell by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 10:12:50 AM
It implies that Christine is asking to be dragged to Hell. All she has to do is stop doing shit that will get her dragged to hell. And she does all the wrong things.
I love the kid screaming at the beginning "Ayuda Me!" by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 10:16:15 AM
"Ayuda Me!! Ayuda Me! ARGGGGHHHHH!" What is awesome is, you wonder what rotten things that kid did to avoid being dragged to Hell that made him truly deserve it. Also, the parents lie at first, when asked "what did he do". "Nothing" they say. Then they say that they tried to give it back. But is that a lie as well? We obviously don't know the whole story, and the kid's performance is very angry and furious "Ayuda Me!!!" We don't know why, but there's a real possibilty that he deserved to be dragged to Hell.
Try to see this in a theater without "Surround Sound" by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 10:24:28 AM
For some reason, a lot of theaters seem to have the sound poorly adjusted, and the "Shock" sounds are WAY too loud. I saw it in a small theater that seemed to have a well adjust Stereo sound, and the shock sound was loud, but not ear-shattering. You need to be able to hear the dialogue and the quieter creepy sounds and music.
The poster of the Kitty in her room "Hang in There, Baby" by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 10:26:23 AM
That's creepy when you know what happens later. Did she hang the kitty up like that? Bitch.
Do you think her story about her mom was true? by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 10:28:24 AM
Was her mom REALLY an alcoholic? Was Raimi tryin to show Christine shaming her mom the way she shamed poor old Mrs. Ganush?
The only person who tries to send anyone to Hell ... by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 10:30:40 AM
by the end of the movie, is Christine !!!!
Raimi said that the old gypsy lady was "the victim" by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 10:31:55 AM
That would be wierd if the REAL little old lady was siccing demons on people.
Raimi mentions "The demon Allison Lohman's character calls forth by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 10:33:42 AM
"The Demon Allson Lohman's character calls forth". That's what Raimi said, discussing the research he did on the demon. He doesn't say "demon the gypsy lady calls forth".
Raimi is underselling the film by calling it a "spook a blast" by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 10:38:43 AM
It's way more subtle and frightening than that. "spook a blast" makes it sound like the Three Stooges running around being scared by Spooks.
Raimi is so tricky. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 10:42:14 AM
In interviews, he says he wanted everyone to like Christine, sympathize with her, so that they'll make the same sin of cruelty with her ... and get what they deserve along with Christine.
The "Harvest cake" didn't look that yummy. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 10:44:01 AM
Actually, the blood and pus from the eyeball looked more delicious! Looked like Strawberry sauce and custard.
Wasn't Hecuba a great cat? by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 10:45:00 AM
Faaahhhhhh!
I loved the head bonking moment in the grave. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 10:46:04 AM
Heaven finally rebukes Christine.
Was the head bonk moment a ref to Evil Dead? by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 10:46:56 AM
Did Ash get bonked on the head by a cross?
Why isn't everyone going to see this film? by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 10:48:15 AM
Are they seeing junk like "The Hangover" instead? Goddamn.
This film is still in theaters! by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 10:49:14 AM
God's sake, go see it! Don't wait for DVD, it's worth seeing!
Go to the Broadway Multiplex in Hicksville NY by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 10:50:08 AM
The sound is set just right there, even if the theater is small.
Alright No Diggity ya seem so alone here by skimn	Jun 18th, 2009 12:15:03 PM
I thought Drag Me was the best horror movie of its type since Poltergeist. I had a smile all the way through. Too bad dumb fuck audiences will swarm to stupid ass remakes instead of some fun original "Tales From The Crypt" type horror.
Yeah, the Kitty Poster ... by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 12:16:15 PM
The look on the Kitty's face in the poster is pretty awful ...
And I keep remembering the line from by skimn	Jun 18th, 2009 12:18:01 PM
the great David Paymer.."Did I get any in my mouth?....did i get any in my mouth..."
AND I loved walking up to the ticket counter by skimn	Jun 18th, 2009 12:19:54 PM
and asking the lovely theater employee.."Drag me to Hell please.." Be good NoDiggity
It was a better Poltergeist movie than Poltergeist, wasn't it? by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 12:24:49 PM
WAY scarier.
It's my favorite movie of 09 too. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 12:26:27 PM
Maybe audiences think being dragged to Hell is TOO Scary.
Sam Raimi did one-up Stev...er I mean by skimn	Jun 18th, 2009 12:27:51 PM
Tobe Hooper.
I saw it at a 12:15 a.m. showing. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 12:28:29 PM
It was so creepy walking out of the empty multiplex, through the empty mall. And the theater LED displays were all saying "BYE BYE BYE" in Red LED lights.
Wasn't the Music Fantastic? by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 12:30:31 PM
I sat through the credits. The violinist was having so much fun playing the creepy wailing violin. And then that demonic male chorus, descending into Hell, lower and lower and lower, and then a sinister female chorus going Ahhhhhhhhh! This movie was so great.
DocPazuzu !!!! Where's your review of the film? by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 12:34:00 PM
It wasn't a mere "Spook a blast" was it! I was totally surprised by how good it was. I wasn't expecting much after the Spider-Man films. (though did like Spider-Man 3)
David Paymer to replace.... by Series7	Jun 18th, 2009 12:36:36 PM
Sean Penn in upcoming Three Stoogies movie! Said headline from about 5-10 years ago.
Yeah, and Christine's theme was so pretty, and a bit sad. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 12:39:33 PM
It made you feel for her, and want to hug and protect her. And then she slowly does creepier and creepier things and gets dragged to HELL.
I love the way her boyfriend pulls back from the INTENSE HEAT by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 12:42:26 PM
When Hell erupts around Christine. And she's glowing hot as she's pulled to hell, so you can see her skull through her skin. Nice effect!
I wonder if Ram Jhaas was actually a demon in disguise .. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 12:46:16 PM
Or it was the Demon (the swirling leaves" that led Christine to him so he could fill her in on the nonexistent "curse".
For kids by BenBraddock	Jun 18th, 2009 12:49:12 PM
I've seen scarier "Buffy" episodes. Seriously, this was tame, toothless and a major disappointment. Don't believe the hype.
I sat with some knuckleheads ... by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 12:49:57 PM
... the second time I saw it. One of them kept talking through the movie (trying to avoid being scared). The only time he shut up was when he thought that the movie was over, he was totally silent all through the false happy ending, until Christine gets Dragged To Hell, and then he said "What the Fuck was That?" in an aghast voice. Made me happy, because he had been such an annoying fuck all through the movie, and the movie finally got to him.
DerLanghaarge, Mrs. Ganush didn't curse Christine. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 12:51:45 PM
The thing in the parking lot, who took her button and cursed it, was pretty clearly the Demon itself, NOT Mrs. Ganush.
Ben Braddock, you are SO WRONG. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 12:53:50 PM
For kids? It was way more disturbing than that.
I want to bump this up into the Top Talkbacks, but it's hard. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 01:03:47 PM
Only at 48 new post so far. :(
When she visited the granddaughter's house ... by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 02:19:13 PM
... did you notice that the granddaughter never mentions the "Curse" ? She says "Grandma said you would come". For all we know, poor Mrs. Ganush believed Christine would have pity and come to tell her that she was giving her another extension.
Although, I don't believe embalmed corpses .. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 02:20:28 PM
... have QUITE that much embalming fluid sloshing around in them.
Buffy could actually be quite scary ... by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 02:22:29 PM
... but you never were scared that Buffy would get DRAGGED TO HELL!
MAYBE the flood of embalming fluid was another illusion by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 02:30:10 PM
An illusion created by the demon. I noticed that Christine's face was totally dry after she got up.
Christine was so funny with her diction tapes. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 02:39:57 PM
"Good sounds abaownd when the maouth is raownd" Heh.
Read the "Screencrave.com" interview with Sam Raimi by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 02:42:58 PM
http://tinyurl.com/nmtaxm
Cinema.com interview with Sam Raimi by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 02:46:06 PM
http://tinyurl.com/nch4oq
That second interview I posted ... by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 02:48:52 PM
... is where Raimi says "the demon that Allison Lohman's character calls forth" (NOT the demon that the gypsy lady calls forth). Big support for the Thing In The Parking Lot Who Cursed The Button Was The Demon Already theory.
Notice that Christine never tried a Priest? by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 02:50:44 PM
Silly Christine.
I don't get the people who said it wasn't scary. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 02:51:48 PM
I've seen it 4 times now, and I was still jumping at the fourth viewing.
The Shadow Arms Reaching For Christine in her Bedroom. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 02:53:02 PM
When the one arm grabs for her as she jumps away, so scary.
Are you guys seriously discussing by gavdiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 02:57:18 PM
the amount of embalming fluid in that dead old woman? A movie that features a girl who keeps an anvil tied to her rope in the shed should not be taken that seriously. And the demon being the one who cursed the button? That makes zero sense. Oh, yeah... I loved this movie.
Gavdiggity, The "curse" was a trick to scare Christine into ... by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 03:02:06 PM
... DAMNING HERSELF. There was no real curse, except the one Christine believed in. The demon was lying to Christine about the button. Notice that the spooky swirling leaves are what led Christine to the fortune teller who explained the "gypsy curse".
Gavdiggity, the "Anvil" tied to the roof was an ILLUSION. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 03:04:34 PM
You weren't expected to take that seroiusly. That Anvil tied to the rope was as real as the Ganush-Monster that Christine dropped it on. The real anvil was on the floor the whole time.
The USUAL idea of Hell is that you go there because YOU DESERVE by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 03:09:00 PM
Not because someone lays a curse on you. I'm pretty sure Sam Raimi is aware of this, and is hoping his audience is aware of this too.
NoDiggity, that's just proving my point by gavdiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 03:18:57 PM
(the thing about the anvil). I mean, why would she have an anvil, at all? She moved it from the farm so she could make some money on the side shoeing horses? And Christine damned herself before she was cursed, when she refused to help a sick old lady keep her house in order to further her career. I think you're taking what is, essentially, a cartoon with live actors, and turning it into more than that. But whatever, man, I'm glad you've enjoyed it so much.
Gavdiggity, maybe the anvil was in the shed when she moved in? by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 03:21:48 PM
The point is, when a person in a story is being attacked by supernatural illusions, why bitch about a suspended Anvil during one of those illusions?
Can you watch the Parking Lot scene and believe it was really Mr by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 03:26:10 PM
Seriously, watch the parking lot scene again. Starts with that satanic handkerchief, has "Mrs. Ganush" materialize inside a LOCKED CAR, and fight on despite staples to the face and EYE, lift heavy concrete blocks to smash the windows, begin the first sign of the demon (the sharm teeth, in the jagged smashed dentures) and when she delivers the curse, Christine falls asleep, so it suggest it might all have been a dream/illusion. And the ghostly swirling leaves that signaled her presenec in the parking lot appear just in time to guide Christine to the psychic who explains the "gypsy curse". Mrs. Ganush (the old lady at the bank) is not the same as "Mrs. Ganush", (the demon called forth by Christine's cruelty). Every critic online is taking this film so literally. Raimi was too subtle.
Gavdiggity, to call it a "cartoon with live actors" is unfair. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 03:28:01 PM
From the interviews, Sam Raimi is taking it FAR more seriously than the reviewers are. The reviewers seem to be reviewing "Evil Dead 4" expecting it all to be taken as a "goof".
Can I watch that parking lot scene by gavdiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 03:42:21 PM
and believe it was the old woman? Yes. If there's one thing Raimi's know for, it's subtlety. Like the subtlety of, oh, say, the scene with the fountain-like nosebleed. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, my man.
The anvil was left there by a previous owner? by gavdiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 03:44:27 PM
do me a favor and look up the term deus ex machina, 'cause that's what you're talking about. As far as calling it a cartoon with live actors, why would I think that? Hmmm... would it have anything to do with things like the eyeballs popping out of the old woman's sockets and into Christine's mouth? Things like that? By the way, that's not meant as an insult or a slight. Raimi's done plenty of cartoonish stuff in the past (a tree raping a woman? All of Army of Darkness? Brisco County Jr?), and I love it (with the exception of Spider-Man 3, which I fucking loathed). Drag Me To Hell is not some heavy, Hitchcockian psychological thriller, it's a movie about a woman who, through her own actions, winds up damned.
Gavdiggity... by Spookeegirl	Jun 18th, 2009 04:09:27 PM
I love you, marry me
Gavdiggity, Why are you being Dense about this? by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 04:13:35 PM
"Eyballs popping out of sockets". And the old woman and her popped eyballs disappear completely a split second later, and it's supposed to be seen as REALITY that is "cartoonish" but real? As far as being a "heavy Hitchcockian psychological thriller", Raimi recently said that the filmmakers he admires include Kubrick and Hitchcock. And this film has Hitchcock written all over it.
good luck with your thesis on this movie, NoDiggity. by gavdiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 04:30:47 PM
Sounds like you're working it all out.
Thank You, Gavdiggity. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 04:33:24 PM
Much appreciated.
The performance of the actor is DIFFERENT in the bank vs. parkin by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 04:36:15 PM
Old Mrs. Ganush in the bank, is human, sad, real. "Mrs. Ganush" in the parking lot is demonic, cartoonish, exaggerated. Raimi is telling us it isn't the same Mrs. Ganush. ESPECIALLY WHEN THE REST OF THE MOVIE HAS CARTOONISH GHOULISH MRS. GANUSHES ALL OVER THE PLACE.
I still don't know why Spidey Three was so awful for fanboys by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 04:40:35 PM
Spidey 2 was the one that was unbearable. SHUT UP, MARYJANE! NO ONE WANTS TO SEE YOUR SAD ACCUSING FACE!
by Spookeegirl	Jun 18th, 2009 04:59:02 PM
"We’re going to try to make it a fun, spooky blast of a film for people. It was really clear that we weren’t making an art picture and everyone really got into that. I had a wonderful time." Sam Raimi Stop reading into it, it is a FUN film, NOT MEANT to be dissected. Not meant to be Hitchcock. I admire Tom Waits, but I don't talk in a gravelly voice and sing about smoking.
Raimi sounds kinda serious here .. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 05:35:00 PM
At that point, when we all have a chance to be greedy or not, when it’s important, she’s cruel to this old lady for her own betterment. She sins with greed and forces her out of the house, hiding under the rules of the bank. Because I wanted the audience to make this choice with her. I wanted to present her as a nice person. She is a nice person. We all are nice people but we’re all sinners too. And I wanted you, the audience member, to make this choice with her, when the old woman was unpleasant looking, was absurd, I wanted the audience to say, “Yeah, just deny her the loan and get her out of the office for crying out loud.” Because I had hoped that once you sinners had made that choice with her, that like it or not, you would know in your heart that that thing that had been sicked upon her was not just coming for her, but deservedly so for you because you had made that choice with her. And that ending when it came for her, although it may be a surprise or not, you’d know that it could’ve come for you too.
He sounds real serious here too... by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 05:36:40 PM
Interviewer: Justin reminds her that she had two warnings already. Is there no merit to that? Sam Raimi: Sure. There’s all sorts of reasons to be greedy and cruel to other people. They can be justified by logic or you could use the rules of an institution or a government or the military. There’s all sorts of reasons to torment and be cruel to others, justifiable wonderful reasons. That’s another one, that she had been given an extension twice before. Did she really expect a third one? Did she really expect mercy after she’d been shown some? It’s another way for people to hide behind their choices. From the screencrave review.
Its all about an eating disorder people by iremonger	Jun 18th, 2009 06:00:30 PM

Nice Gaius! The film was so NOT a "wink wink, nudge nudge" fil by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 06:01:17 PM
Go see it.
NoDiggity- I just read that you enjoyed Spidey 3 by gavdiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 06:11:52 PM
and I feel like an ass for having spent any time at all discussing movies with you.
Gavdiggity "Enjoy" is a relative term. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 06:14:26 PM
I "enjoyed" it relative to the awfulness of Spidey 2, but Spidey 3 was still pretty awful. Just more enjoyable than Spidey 2. It had more villains crammed into it, so there was less room for the whining and moaning. Spidey 2 only had one villain, so there was LOTS of room for whining and moaning. There. Now you don't have to feel like an as for discussing movies with me.
Iremonger, I don't think it's about an Eating Disorder. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 06:15:21 PM
At all
Iremonger is on to something by gavdiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 06:23:35 PM
there was an AWFUL lot of images of Christine having things forced into her mouth (scarves, flies, eyes, etc). And the scene where she couldn't eat the cake at Clay's parent's house? yup, that all makes sense.
Okay, Iremonger might have a point. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 06:36:32 PM
But I think the demon is just shoving her dreams of a perfect life, the ones that motivated her to be cruel to the poor old lady at the bank, down her throat. Christine is repulsed by her old, fat, food indulging self, so the Demon shoves stuff into her mouth. Including the diseased eye that she found so repulsive in the real Mrs. Ganush at the bank. Christine doesn't have an eating disorder ... she's perfectly capable of eating gigantic heaps of ice cream at the diner later.
NoDiggity, can I ask you a serious question? by gavdiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 06:38:11 PM
I'm wondering how old you are.
Gavdiggity, that's not a "serious question" by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 06:40:12 PM
None of your business.
Sure it is. by gavdiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 06:44:25 PM
If you don't wanna answer, that's fine. But I am being serious.
Why so serious, Gavdiggity? by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 06:47:45 PM
And what has that question to do with what we were talking about? What's the matter, can't keep up with the conversation, so you want to find out if people are too young and immature, or too old and immature, or what? Admit it, your view of this film as a "silly cartoon, that I don't have to think about" is being shattered, and you don't like it. Because it means the film is ACTUALLY SCARY now. And you don't like being REALLY scared, you poor little kitty kat.
Roger Ebert didn't get this film at all. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 06:51:52 PM
Poor Ebert.
Dude, calm down by gavdiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 06:58:16 PM
what're you getting all bent out of shape about? I was just curious. I certainly wouldn't want to assume that you're 17-22, probably studying English and philosophy or psychology, a big oh, let's say Pink Floyd fan, looking for meaning where there is none. I wouldn't want to jump to any conclusions, even though your arguments are weak and you're resorting to name calling, much like someone with little experience in the world would do. Also, please tell me where I said the film was silly, or dismissed it in any way. And frankly, while there were some good scares in the movie, the actual world is scarier than a movie could ever be. The economy, what's going on in North Korea, the elections in Iran... the story of a demon tormenting a naive farmgirl isn't even close to those things (although, as I said before, I enjoyed the hell out of the movie). Bottom line, I'm "so serious" (I see what you did there... you quoted that other movie with the guy in the bat suit, right? Clever and topical) 'cause I was under the misguided impression that I could have a discussion that is, while light and friendly, still serious. But never mind. I have to go home and hide under my bed.
So, how was "A Simple Plan" ? by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 07:00:39 PM
I didn't like the book, didn't like the writing style. Drag Me To Hell is the first film of his I've really loved, it seems. (have to see Evil Dead now).
Well, Gavdiggity, the "banality of evil" is a serious thing. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 07:04:53 PM
That's a part of the real world. People do mildly cruel things, and it leads to worse and worse crimes, and you end up with ordinary people being complicit with Holocausts just because they want to impress their bosses and get promotions, just like Christine Brown did. And as I showed with my quotes, Sam Raimi is taking the movie quite seriously too, even though he's also, in other interviews, trying to sell it as a goofy "spook a blast". It can be a "spook a blast" and have a serious undercurrent at the same time, can't it?
Where's DocPazuzu and Nice Gaius? by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 07:07:16 PM
I need them to help up the post count.
Christine's little poufy dress was very cute at the end. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 07:12:17 PM
Just before she got dragged to Hell.
Roger Ebert's review suggested that Christine and Clay were chas by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 07:17:48 PM
Meaning that they didn't have sex. I'm pretty sure the film implied they did have sex, even if Christine was wearing a robe afterwards. Her boyfriend looked naked enough.
Moriarty's review of the test screening was annoying. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 07:20:09 PM
He basically said it's a fun B-Movie schlockfest, and nothing more. Condescending as always. And totally missed the point.
Moriarty's Hitfix review of "Drag Me To Hell" by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 07:27:59 PM
http://tinyurl.com/d22hzm This is what annoys me .. "Look, "Drag Me To Hell" is slight. It's not about anything. It's not trying to make a larger statement about the real world. This is just plain fun. It's a haunted house movie. It's a curse movie. It's a ridiculously fun movie, and in May, you'll be able to see it for yourself" Just because Moriarty didn't see anything deep in the script, doesn't mean there isn't anything deep in the script. Sam Raimi's own comments on the film and what he was trying to say with it contradict Mr. Moriarty.
Of course, I shouldn't mention Moriarty. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 07:30:17 PM
He's likely to show up like the Lamia and ban me and drag all my posts into Hell.
Hey HARRY ... You said you write another review! by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 07:32:47 PM
A more coherent one. You should!
Moriarty's review is a positive one. He really liked it. by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 07:36:57 PM
It's nice to agree with him about something. Just wish he could keep his dismissive Superior Than Thou attitude out of it. He ruins many a friendly positive article by sticking in a compulsive Lording it Over whatever film or director he's discussing. Generally takes the form of prognosticating about the bright future of the director/actress/franchise, or whatever. Can't seem to help it.
I really should be more positive ... by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 07:43:20 PM
About Moriarty's review. It was a good read, and described the evening's events well.
Ellen Page : What would the movie have been like with her? by NoDiggity	Jun 18th, 2009 07:46:07 PM
I know she can do the sweet innocent thing, and she can do the cold evasive thing. She could also have done the angry bitch thing, probably better than Lohman. But we will never know.
I got to bag it up. by Series7	Jun 18th, 2009 10:28:51 PM

See UP Instead by NoHubris	Jun 18th, 2009 11:14:29 PM
The villain and his evil underlings are much more frightening! :-)
UP looks awful. by NoDiggity	Jun 19th, 2009 05:40:07 AM
I recommend Drag Me To Hell instead.
Awful by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead	Jun 19th, 2009 07:38:26 AM
The mmovie is awful, it is unwatchable. I wanted it to be so good, and this site wanted me to like it so much. It sucked. Wooden acting, terrible sets, pure cheap soundtrack horror. A tired plot, well-worn material and totally cliche. Some of the worst CGI I've seen recently, which is actually saying a lot. Totally watered down for the rating, gross-out horror for 14 year-old girls. Green goo? Come on. But most of all, and it really pains me to say this, poorly directed. What has happened to Raimi these last few years? It seemed like a dress rehearsal.
And Lohman? by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead	Jun 19th, 2009 07:40:01 AM
Oh my God, oh my God, she is a pathetic actress. She's been good and convincing in other movies, as has Justin Long, again, bad direction. Just lazy filmmaking all the way around the board
UP WAS FANTASTIC by AyatollahSexyBack	Jun 19th, 2009 07:53:44 AM
Top 2 movie of the year so far
If The First Thing You Think About Lohman Is Her Acting Skill. by LaserPants	Jun 19th, 2009 09:31:10 AM
Then you are gay. Full-on, Liberace, Disco rainbow, meth fueled bathhouse gay. The girl is GORGEOUS. And shes was GREAT in this movie as the clueless, totally hot little tortured ingenue.
DRAG ME TO HELL = BEST MOVIE OF 2009 THUS FAR by LaserPants	Jun 19th, 2009 09:31:52 AM
TRUTH!
Hey Harry, Where's Your Hangover Review? by Stabby	Jun 19th, 2009 09:42:55 AM
I'm guessing you hated it since you said you were going to see it and you don't like reviewing movies you hate anymore because it depresses you.
I disagree that Lohman's acting was bad. by NoDiggity	Jun 19th, 2009 10:43:29 AM
At least, not in the small quiet scenes. She's quite good at being sweet and innocent, and at being shifty (as in the scene where she confronts the grand-daughter of Mrs. Ganush). That scene of bitchy triumph in the parking lot was also convincing "I beat, you old bitch!". I just found other scenes where she was required to be bitchy a little unconvincing... pretty much the entire climax, from the diner through to the cemetary scene. Could have used more fury. Example: "Keep the coffee coming, or I'll give you a tip you won't forget". Needed a touch of menace to it.
Dance, the soundtrack was wonderful by NoDiggity	Jun 19th, 2009 10:50:12 AM
You have no soul.
So, what do you all think? Is the parking lot monster Mrs. Ganus by NoDiggity	Jun 19th, 2009 10:55:44 AM
I'm pretty sure it is NOT Mrs. Ganush. My only worry is that Raimi has said in interviews "the curse the old woman casts", though he never says "Mrs. Ganush". In his cinema.com article, he says "The demon that Allison Lohman's character calls forth: the old woman", and I don't know if he was correcting himself to say "demon that the old woman calls forth" or if he is being tricky about letting the audience believe, along with Lohman's character, that it actually is Mrs. Ganush in the parking lot, even though it's just the Demon setting the "curse".
UP looks awful? by Series7	Jun 19th, 2009 10:56:39 AM
Your an idiot. Also you want a good Alison Lohman movie watch Where the Truth Lies instead, you'll understand when you see it.
Let me clarify .. by NoDiggity	Jun 19th, 2009 11:14:28 AM
When Raimi said "The demon that Allison Lohman's character calls forth: the old woman" Did he let slip that Allison Lohman's character is the one that really called up the demon, and the demon is in the form of an old woman, or did he simply make a mistake and correct himself, and we really are supposed to believe that it is poor old Mrs. Ganush from the bank who is attacking Christine and projectile-spitting a ruler to crack her car window? If the old lady from tthe bank and the Thing in the parking lot are the same, I'll be sort of disappointed in the film. I actually was a bit disappointed in the film when I first saw the parking lot sequence ... it seemed so cartoony, and Mrs. Ganush had turned into a cartoon monster, after being so human and frail and pitiful before. Believing it's the Demon in the parking lot makes the whole film much better.
Anything to keep this guy from fucking up Spider-Man! by HollywoodHellraiser	Jun 19th, 2009 11:15:09 AM
AGAIN!
Yeah, UP looks awful. by NoDiggity	Jun 19th, 2009 11:16:33 AM
That plastic look, those one-dimensional characters, the simplistic moralizing about Adventure. But I have to wait until I see it, so breath expended on my expectations is wasted breath.
Alison Lohman was great in Matchstick Men by Stabby	Jun 19th, 2009 11:17:27 AM
A great underrated film about con artists, if you haven't seen. I thought she would go on to do great things after that, but it never panned out for.
WHERE THE TRUTH LIES by LaserPants	Jun 19th, 2009 11:29:32 AM
Features a crazy hot lesbian scene with Allison Lohman and some chick dressed up like Alice in Wonderland. Its a TERRIBLE movie, but that scene made it worth the view.
There's an Alice in Wonderland cosplay fetish in Japan by Stabby	Jun 19th, 2009 11:34:49 AM
Google it. Totally hot!
NoDiggity by Series7	Jun 19th, 2009 12:59:39 PM
You really don't care about your credibility in trying to get people to see Drag Me To Hell do you? Sitting there saying that Up looks awful but ranting and raving about how great Drag Me To Hell is, is just stupid. How am I suppose to believe what some dumbass that hasn't seen UP to begin with, that sits there and say its stupid Up is, has to say about any movie? You can say that you don't like cartoons, are you aren't old enough to understand Up, but to sit there and say that a Pixar movie looks awful and dumb just makes you an retarded.
this film by idrinkyourmilkshake	Jun 19th, 2009 01:53:08 PM
was probably the MOST entertaining film this summer.I really dug it.It was fun, and elicted reaction after reaction from me, and that's impressive! Not a film I'd LOVE-but I was VERY surprised.Then aagin, Raimi's films are ALL pretty good( like the GIFT or the film where BILLY BOB find the plane full of money)..so good job Sam!
SPOILER ALERT!!! by idrinkyourmilkshake	Jun 19th, 2009 01:54:15 PM
Frank MARSHALL sucks a mean cock.
Gee, Series 7, tighten up your Reading Comprehension Skills by NoDiggity	Jun 19th, 2009 02:36:41 PM
Didn't say I disliked cartoons, just Plastic Looking ones. And forgive me for not looking forward to a plastic looking cartoon about an old fart and a fat boy scout.
I'm Sure UP Is Very Good, by LaserPants	Jun 19th, 2009 03:39:48 PM
but there's nothing that appeals to me in the premise. It actually sounds very sad to me, very depressing. A lonely old curmudgeon mourning his dead wife? I dunno. I'll see it eventually, of course, cause you kinda have to with Pixar, but I can wait until dvd.
NoDoggity, to get this thing going you're going by skimn	Jun 19th, 2009 03:50:35 PM
to need wacky titles.. Drag Me To Hell...more like Drag Me To Swell..
Drag Me to Hell ? More like ... Drag me to SWELL ! by NoDiggity	Jun 19th, 2009 03:57:42 PM
What a great movie!
Up is SQUIRREL wonderful by skimn	Jun 19th, 2009 03:59:43 PM
You guys have got to give it a chance. I liked it much better than Wall E...
Where did Raimi get his love for all those Christian themes? by NoDiggity	Jun 19th, 2009 03:59:47 PM
He says he got it from all those classic Marvel comics from the'80s.
UP is better than WALL-E ? I should hope so. by NoDiggity	Jun 19th, 2009 04:01:39 PM
Wall-E was all right, but I'm glad I waited to rent it on DVD from Redbox.
Official Website for DRAG ME TO HELL here .... by NoDiggity	Jun 19th, 2009 04:27:28 PM
http://www.dragmetohell.net Remove the AICN inserted spaces.
UP is UPlifting like SLUMDOG MILLIONARE by NoHubris	Jun 19th, 2009 04:48:03 PM
The title -- UP -- is kind of a double entendre. It's not only about a man mourning his wife, but about letting key aspects of life get away and then attempting to recapture them. There is mystery, danger, suspense, and hordes of cliffhanger moments. The great actors doing the voices are there for a reason and it shows via the complicated characters. Christopher Plummer's villain is one of the scariest, most vicious film bad guys in recent memory.
Stop talking about UP. Let's just talk about DRAG ME TO HELL by NoDiggity	Jun 19th, 2009 04:56:15 PM
Pixar Shimixar
No lets talk about the box office SMASH that is Up! by Series7	Jun 20th, 2009 01:05:44 AM
Who didn't love that movie? I think LaserPants says it best "cause you kinda have to with Pixar". Exactly, because Pixar won't let you down. Raimi has been letting me down since everything after Darkman. I mean Pixar did the impossible it made a run away hit cartoon without really appealing to anyone. I mean Old People hate cartoons, kids hate old people it was a sure fire flop. But its looking to be one of Pixar's top grosser (something that can't be said of Emo dance choreographing Samuel Rami's newest flick). Also you seriously have to hunt down Up toys, I think even Drag Me to Ghost House Pictures Last Movie 30 Days Of Night Was More Of A Hit Then Its Newest had a deal for kids meals toys with Roy Rogers that flopped as well. Up was made a hit on the soul name of Pixar alone, while Drag Me to Why Do I Let My Untalented Brother (who had a great camero in an awesome horror movie Midnight Meat Train (i think NoDiggity is probably riding that right now)) Have A Say in Anything Do by touting the fact that this movie was directed by the feller who made dem there Spidyman flicks. Up become an instant classic it the second you left the movie theater. It has its sad moments, but it is by far a sad movie. As far as describing the characters as plastic when it comes to cartoons, you are right. I mean every cartoon they are making these days focus' around a widowed old man and a fat Asian American boy. I mean I turn on Cartoon Network that is all I see. The main character of Monster's Vs. Aliens, Kung Fu Panda, Delgo, Titan AE, A Sharks Tale, Wall-E, Ice Age, Rock-A-Doodle, Ice Age 2, Nine, Polar Express, Little Mermaid, Steamboat Willie, Beauty And The Beast, Snow White, Thumbelina, Rockfish, Shrek 2: Die Harder and Oliver and Company had the exact same characters as their lead. SOOO fucking cookie cutter with that shit, need more ninja and talking exotic animals you know? For Kids.
If you don't get the irony by Series7	Jun 20th, 2009 01:08:44 AM
Of that last line, then you know nothing about Sam Raimi.
I just noticed the SWIRLING LEAVES !!!! by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 11:12:30 AM
In the opening credits, we see a picture of a book, illustrating the three days of the Curse. First day is SWIRLING LEAVES. The first time we see the Swirling leaves is in the underground parking lot! Before Christine is given a "gypsy curse". She was already being haunted.
Did you notice that Ram Jhaas is kinda like Satan? by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 11:20:40 AM
He keeps pushing Christine to do more and more awful things. He tells her that she must warn the person she gives the button to, and he also tells her that she and he will be "accomplices" in the crime of sending an innocent person to Hell. Won't that damn them both? Why would he damn himself for Christine? Maybe because he's SATAN? And he follows his own rules about "warning" people. He warns Christine from the first psychic reading he does that she shouldn't "traffic in the black arts" or "blaspheme the dead in a graveyard" or summon spirits using a Ouiji board. But then he blithely tells her how do do all those things, and tells her to "invite the dead into my soul" at the seance. Truly, he must be SATAN!
Okay, time to revv up this talkback for Monday ... by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 04:09:26 PM
Fingers crossed ....
I don' t know if DRAG ME TO HELL will still be around .. by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 04:10:18 PM
..next weekend. So you'd better go see it this week, if you can.
Audience reactions. Lots of Giggles. by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 04:11:45 PM
They giggled at "here, kitty kitty kitty" and at the goat.
SO, do you think Ram Jaas was helping Christine go to Hell? by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 04:16:35 PM
He sure didn't ever suggest prayer, or the help of a priest.
Someone pointed out that Ram Jaas and Christine .. by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 04:18:47 PM
are the only ones in the seance who are going "I invite the dead into my soul". The lady medium and her assistant aren't saying "I invite the dead into my soul". I'm not sure what that means, but it doesn't sound good to have the dead in your soul ... Was Raam Jaas trying to darken Christine's soul further?
I'm sorry, "Rham Jas" is how his name is spelled. by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 04:20:41 PM
Rham Jas
Scary moments with Rham Jas ... by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 04:23:30 PM
Christine at the seance "I'm scared" Rham Jas: "Yes".
Another creepy moment ... by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 04:24:48 PM
Christine (after the lady medium dies) It's so sad!" Rham Jas: "Yes".
See, if Rham Jas is Satan, or an agent of Satan ... by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 04:26:27 PM
...then Rham Jas isn't sad about the poor medium dying at all. And Christine sounds too satisfied when she says it, so I don't think Rham Jas believes she's truly sorry, just happy that she's escaped from being Dragged to Hell.
I noticed where Christine threw her coat away. by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 04:31:18 PM
She stripped it off at the bottom of the grave.
That kitty was really cute, wasn't he? by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 04:35:03 PM
Such big ears.
I read an interview where Sam Raimi assure us ... by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 04:35:52 PM
...that the kitty went to heaven. Good to know!
You knew she deserved to go to hell ... by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 04:39:48 PM
... as soon as she killed that kitty.
I mean, she was actually worshipping a Demon from Hell. by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 04:40:44 PM
... Sacrificing a kitty to it! Come on, that's not how you escape going to Hell!
I'm really running out of thing to say about Drag Me To Hell. by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 05:14:43 PM
:(
It shouldn't be hard to get the post count up though. by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 05:16:26 PM
I only have to get 30 to beat the bottom top-talkback.
And I'm trying to do it honestly. by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 05:17:04 PM
With Drag Me To Hell actual content.
Has anyone here had "Harvest Cake"? Is it really good? by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 05:19:50 PM
Why didn't Christine have a lid on that cake?
That Harvest Cake ... by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 05:46:09 PM
looked like kinda dry, and it had too many raisins.
Hm. I seem to be repeating myself. by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 05:54:48 PM
Fail
You know what makes this hard? I like this movie a lot. by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 06:07:10 PM
If I hated this movie it would be easy. I could call everyone who liked it idiots, and the post count would rise like a tidal wave.
I know, I'll bash THE HANGOVER. by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 06:10:11 PM
Why are you all going to see THE HANGOVER? About a bunch of cardboard morons who need the Deus Ex Machina of being fed roofies in order to make their doing anything interesting plausible?
And HANGOVER is just a giant ad for Las Vegas. by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 06:11:21 PM
Yeah, go and have wacky fun in Vegas!
It's a CRIME, a CRIME I tell you. by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 06:12:10 PM
That HANGOVER is beating DRAG ME TO HELL at the box office.
And Transformers 2? WHO GIVES A SHIT! by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 06:14:43 PM
Not a real movie. No heart, no soul, no message other than "Gee, isn't Megan Fox Hot?" (no, she's not, the skanky whore).
Don't make me invade the Transformers Talkback .. by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 06:31:11 PM
... please.
STAR TREK was utter dreck. by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 06:33:39 PM
And yet Moriarty raved about it "revitalizing the franchise" and damns DRAG ME TO HELL with faint praise, about it not having a meaning outside of being "fun".
I guess I've figured out what kind of movie Geek I am. by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 06:35:47 PM
I never thought of myself as one. I geek out over Star Wars, but I NEVER go see a movie more than once. I've seen DRAG ME TO HELL five times now.
We really shouldn't be paying attention to ScripGirl by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 06:37:07 PM
Even though her boobs are mighty fine. Not while Drag Me To Hell is still in the theaters.
I bet you ScriptGirl would hate DRAG ME TO HELL by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 06:39:12 PM
Stupid ScriptGirl
ScriptGirl would complain about the movie. by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 06:40:16 PM
She would hate the killing of the kitty, and that the cute Allison Lohman character didn't get the happy ending.
And who cares about "Inglorious Bastards". by NoDiggity	Jun 21st, 2009 06:49:10 PM
By a pot smoking loser. Sam Raimi admires Fellini, Kubrick, Hitchcock. Who does moron Tarantino admire? Himself, the marijuana fried fucker. Who gives a shit if his trailer is censored?
NoDiggity, Sam Raimi... by itsjust_notcool_anymore_baby	Jun 22nd, 2009 12:29:50 AM
Is the only director I've ever heard that's down with a film of his own (The Evil Dead) being re-shat. What does that tell you about the prodigal child now? I almost forgot. The fucking guy is re-shitting it himself.
Forgot to add... by itsjust_notcool_anymore_baby	Jun 22nd, 2009 12:32:07 AM
My spidey sense go Chic-Chiiiing $$$$$$$$
Geez, what the fuck NoDiggity? by D.Vader	Jun 22nd, 2009 01:05:26 AM
This spamming shite ain't gonna help Drag Me To Hell's box office dude! But in conclusion, ScriptGirl sucks.
Plenty of directors are okay with their film being remade. by NoDiggity	Jun 22nd, 2009 08:23:22 AM
Y'all may love the cheesy sfx of the original, but he maybe is a bit embarassed. (I'm taking your word that he is remaking it, I didn't know)
What burns my ass is all those fuckers who ... by NoDiggity	Jun 22nd, 2009 08:27:50 AM
... are totally on the side of Allison Lohman's character "She didn't pay her mortgage on time, that's it, she should lose her house!" "If some old hag coughed up on my desk and stole my sweets, I'd kick her ass to the curb too!" Lots of people out there going to hell, apparently.
Sam Raimi and Medieval Christianity by NoDiggity	Jun 22nd, 2009 09:01:02 AM
He says he loved Marvel Comics growing up in the 80's, which were heavily into Christian themes and symbolism, and that's why those themes resonate for him. And the unaddressed, but assumed Mythos of DRAG ME TO HELL is that there is not only a Hell, but a Heaven. Dabbling in the black arts is a soul-destroying practice, (such as sacrificing kitties to demons). The world Raimi imagines was one familiar to Christians for a thousand years, and only recently has become less familiar to people. In that mythos, Demons are constantly looking for weaknesses in people, looking for cracks in their goodness that they can exploit, to trick them into damning themselves. In that mythos, the only way to avoid the constant attentions of Demons is to turn to God and righteousnes, be humble in your sinfulness, and admit that you can't resist the Demons without help and mercy from Heaven. In "Drag Me to Hell" Christine sins in greed for her promotion, denies mercy to the old woman who begs her , and never thinks to ask for help from a higher power ... instead engaging in magic rituals that intend to overpower the demonic forces, assuming that control of them, unaided by heaven, is possible. There is nothing humble in Christine. "I beat you, you old bitch!" she screams triumphantly at the demonic form of the old lady, the demonic expression of her own guilt. "Choke on it Bitch!" she screams, as she damns the victim of her cruelty to eternal hellfire (so she thinks). Raimi keeps the Heavenly side out of the story, but the falling cross that bonks Christine on the head is a not-so-subtle rebuke from Heaven, don't you think?
DRAG ME TO HELL by FUCK_YOU_GEORGE_LUCAS	Jun 22nd, 2009 09:01:52 AM
FUCKING SUCKS SHIT.
Fuck You George Lucas .. by NoDiggity	Jun 22nd, 2009 09:04:06 AM
No, it does't. It's GREAT.
NoDiggity = Sam Raimi? by FUCK_YOU_GEORGE_LUCAS	Jun 22nd, 2009 09:04:13 AM
Only logical reason for him to praise this piece of shit.
The Embalming Fluid in the corpse was an ILLUSION! by NoDiggity	Jun 22nd, 2009 09:08:38 AM
When I watched it Saturday for the final time, I noticed that when Christine got up there was no wetness on her face, and corpse's face was totally dry as well. Another illusion.
Yeah I didn't think by Series7	Jun 22nd, 2009 09:17:05 AM
You'd respond.
Series 7, I have no interest in your Old Fart/Boyscout love sto by NoDiggity	Jun 22nd, 2009 09:19:54 AM
Go resurrect the UP talkback, if you care.
The Appearance of THE FLY : What It Means ! by NoDiggity	Jun 22nd, 2009 09:29:17 AM
Literally, of course, it means that Christines soul is starting to rot, and the fly is rubbing it's hands at the soon-to-be feast. But since we know that the "curse" is just a demonic illusion, why does the fly appear after the curse? What signals the descent of Christine's soul into rot? I think it's Christine's triumphant belief that she has beaten the Old Woman "I beat you, you old bitch!" It's the beginning of Christine irrevocably thinking of her cruel action as something she doesn't need to reverse, or fix, for the sake of doing the right thing, and that she can fix the problem by cleverness, or bribery (as she seems to intend to do when she visits the old woman's home). She wants to get around her crime without repenting. Without surrendering to her conscience and feeling remorse. You see stabs of conscience surfacing, but she never acts on it. And when the fly lands on the camera lens, isn't Raimi trying to tell us that our souls are also becoming fly-food for buying into the whole Gypsy Curse lie, and hating on the old woman, and rooting for Christine to get her happy ending?
No its cause you got by Series7	Jun 22nd, 2009 10:26:12 AM
Nothing. Especially that Raimi reference you have no idea about.
Series 7, What Raimi Reference do I have no idea about? by NoDiggity	Jun 22nd, 2009 10:38:05 AM
Tell me. Oh, and I know how Raimi was brought up, religiously, so don't bother.
I'd rather be dragged to hell by kolchak	Jun 22nd, 2009 11:17:20 AM
than be dragged to see this movie again.
But why, Kolchak? Why didn't you like it? by NoDiggity	Jun 22nd, 2009 11:29:33 AM
Being that it was so good, and all ...
Time to Bump ... by NoDiggity	Jun 22nd, 2009 11:44:08 AM

... this talkback UP! by NoDiggity	Jun 22nd, 2009 11:47:12 AM

A little Higher .. by NoDiggity	Jun 22nd, 2009 11:50:41 AM

There we go ... by NoDiggity	Jun 22nd, 2009 11:54:19 AM
ahead of the MERLIN talkack.
Re read my post by Series7	Jun 22nd, 2009 01:12:18 PM
I state it pretty clearly at the end.
Okay NoDiggity by skimn	Jun 22nd, 2009 02:23:03 PM
I away for the weekend
So imagine my surprise by skimn	Jun 22nd, 2009 02:23:41 PM
to see you still at it.
So, I thought I'd toss my 2 cents in by skimn	Jun 22nd, 2009 02:24:24 PM
once again...
And Series 7's line refers to The Hudsucker Proxy by skimn	Jun 22nd, 2009 02:28:19 PM
wriiten by the Coen Brothers, and yes, Sam Raimi.
In fact the Coens and Sam Raimi by skimn	Jun 22nd, 2009 02:34:21 PM
have a long history together when they were starting out. They co-wrote Crimewave also.
If you look closely by skimn	Jun 22nd, 2009 02:36:20 PM
you'll see Bruce Campbell as a televised soap opera actor in a scene in Fargo. Okay, thats it for me. Good luck NoDiggity.
Well, one more by skimn	Jun 22nd, 2009 02:37:07 PM
...
Gotta beat that Airbender by skimn	Jun 22nd, 2009 02:37:41 PM
talkback...
Is there anything sadder than a man who looks at ice... by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL	Jun 22nd, 2009 03:51:08 PM
...and sees only frozen water?
I drag prositutes into my blacked out van... by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL	Jun 22nd, 2009 04:06:15 PM
...you could say I'm only helping to promote this movie.
Excellent work everybody by NoDiggity	Jun 22nd, 2009 04:34:37 PM
Thank you!
I wonder if Sam Raimi ... by NoDiggity	Jun 22nd, 2009 04:44:20 PM
liked the HULK comics in the '80s. There were a lot of supernatuaral episodes in old Hulk. One was in an old ghost town out west, and Hulk battled a skeleton who sucked souls into an evil gem. Hulk, of course, smashed.
Skimn, I did wait until Sunday evening to post more. by NoDiggity	Jun 22nd, 2009 04:45:16 PM
Seemed like the best strategy.

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