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Hercules Assails ABC’s New Nathan Fillion Dramedy CASTLE!!

I get a first on a Nathan Fillion talkback? by ParagonComplex	Mar 9th, 2009 02:13:41 AM
Probably not. It is good to see him on TV again. I hope this series lasts.
What's the record for most one-season-then-cancelled shows? by Monkeybrains	Mar 9th, 2009 02:16:22 AM
O'l Nathans got to be in the running.
Sounds like a lame version of Bones by Darth Bob	Mar 9th, 2009 02:16:44 AM
but without a hot, faux-nerdy Deschanel sister to make it even remotely interesting.
Sometimes I really miss Firefly by IAmMrMonkey!	Mar 9th, 2009 02:18:05 AM
And, watching this - judging from the reviews above - is going to make me miss it even more.
Bones Part II by lockesbrokenleg	Mar 9th, 2009 02:19:34 AM

Checkmate Mother fucker! by Mr_X	Mar 9th, 2009 02:26:58 AM
is all i could come up with.
A massive hit. by TotalFreedom	Mar 9th, 2009 02:31:25 AM
Mark my words, this show is going to be a big ass hit regardless of if it sucks or not.
Who cares? by The McPoyle Clan	Mar 9th, 2009 02:42:26 AM
I ain't gonna make it to Paleyfest, so ABC needs to burn off the Daisies left in the can.
by lsleelee	Mar 9th, 2009 04:47:43 AM
Wow it has a Whedon alum in it and Herc doesn't like it. This must be the worst show in the history of shows.
Herc more than one person? by snowpuff	Mar 9th, 2009 05:58:54 AM
Sometimes your writing style changes. Makes me think you have someone ghost you sometimes? Sharing the name with a partner?
This will probably be a breakout hit by SoylentMean	Mar 9th, 2009 06:11:55 AM
I mean people still watch American Idol in droves, feeding at that trough every week (and multiple times to boot). Apparently the "average American" doesn't want to actually think while watching television. Oh, New World Order, you've already won.
I absolutely adore Nathan, but by Shut the Fuck up Donny	Mar 9th, 2009 08:19:58 AM
unfortunately he's starting to make Ted McGinley look like a fucking ratings goldmine. Maybe Fillion should be the patron saint of "not even getting the bike off the ramp."
Not even the previews could hide by superfleish76	Mar 9th, 2009 08:40:34 AM
how unfunny this show will be. I agree, I like Nathan Fillion a lot, and want him to finally get a break-out role, but this one isn't going to be it. The lack of chemistry with his co-star, noted in one of the reviews above, is even evident in the commercials! Make Nathan Hal Jordan in the Green Lantern movie, and save him from bad series and cancellations!
Fillion was a better fit for Cupid by Darth_Nader	Mar 9th, 2009 08:55:07 AM
Even though we haven't seen the new cast yet, I think Fillion would have been a perfect fit.
ABC...the Vagina Network by Jor-El23	Mar 9th, 2009 09:07:43 AM
Other than Lost, ABC is a network of the vagina, for the vagina and by the vagina. It's all shitty chick shows, whether they be maudlin dramas like Greys or "sexy" soaps like Dirty Sexy Money, or just Sex and the City ripoffs. Even Lost sometimes veers too closely into the romantic drama territory
Damn damn damn by skimn	Mar 9th, 2009 09:13:11 AM
I thought that Fillion's work last season on Desperate Housewives showed that he is NOT a series killer. And I could see how tempting it would be to fashion a series that would center around his rougish charm. Too bad this doesn't look to be it. And Herc, you did the same for Mad Men. Could you please start a talkback for Breaking Bad? The second season started last night, just as strong as last.
Whedon by The Funketeer	Mar 9th, 2009 09:21:53 AM
Funny how when Herc DOESN'T like the show he downplays the Whedon connections.
It's not hopeless by tralalah	Mar 9th, 2009 09:38:25 AM
Hey, remember George Clooney and how many failed series he had? Fillion is a way better actor and way hotter his break is just around the corner. Right?
The show has potential... by yodaismyhomie	Mar 9th, 2009 10:05:52 AM
and maybe just needs a few episodes to get going properly. I will give it a shot because I like Fillion's work (mostly). As for it being a 'moonlighting' ripoff...well that show was on when I was a little kid and I never saw it...so that won't bother me. Whoever said it sounds like Bones, where do you get that from? Bones is loosely based on books that are loosely based on true cases. But the character of Bones is not going around with the FBI agent to get story ideas or anything...she is there because of her job. Usually she goes along to analyze something and, while there, ends up helping solve the case/catch the bad guy.
You know what this show needs? Robots! by MrMysteryGuest	Mar 9th, 2009 10:35:31 AM

I thought this show was called "Assh*le." by Christopher3	Mar 9th, 2009 10:40:43 AM
No wonder I couldn't find it in the TV Guide.
Gorram it, I really miss Firefly by fanboy71	Mar 9th, 2009 10:45:23 AM
I will watch this because Fillion is the shit, but if it sucks, I will just die a little inside and go back to looking for Genie lamps on the beach. It seems that's the only way to get Firefly season 2 up and running. You'd think with that horrible shit Joss is putting out on FOX that he'd be more open to going back to Firefly. Non of the actors are doing anything they couldn't get out of. Alan Tudyk is doing a fucking commercial for god's sake. Not that Wash could be in season 2 anyway I guess. Gorram Frakkin piece a goosa.
Watch the Slither DVD special features by skimn	Mar 9th, 2009 11:06:53 AM
And all the "I am Bill Pardy" hilarity. No really, it is funny.
Sorry Nate by Blackguard	Mar 9th, 2009 11:22:07 AM
Sounds a lot like Bones only reversed. I don't see it lasting very long since Fillion doesn't have the best track record. Remember Drive?
Herc is not a real person by angelopoulos	Mar 9th, 2009 11:22:23 AM
I think it's a pen name used by someone like Quint or even Harry
Stana Katic? Kana Static? by Wyatt Wingfoot	Mar 9th, 2009 12:20:52 PM
Anna Septik? Gee, this is fun. Firefly dude and ESL(English as a Slavic Language) NY coppette. Ack.
Firefly Season 2? by The Funketeer	Mar 9th, 2009 12:42:24 PM
Really? You're actually holding out hope that it could happen? EVERYONE has moved on from that show. Christ, Inara was just cast in the V remake. No one watched it the first time around. Why would they try to put it on the air again? It was a great show but it's done. Move on. More importantly, let the cast move on.
well, I'm disappointed by oisin5199	Mar 9th, 2009 01:10:58 PM
I was hoping Fillion would find a good niche, like Boreanaz did with Bones. I only watched Bones in the beginning for an Angel fix, but I stuck with it, because it was consistently entertaining with good cast chemistry. Not an amazing show, but a good one. I'm going to try this out for Capt. Tightpants, but he wasn't enough to get me to watch Desperate Housewives, so he might not be enough to keep me here if the show sucks.
Funketeer by optimus122	Mar 9th, 2009 01:12:15 PM
The dvd has sold millions and millions of copies , Firefly has 100 times as many fans now then it did when it was on the air. The movie is way in the black now as well with 3 different releases which all sold huge numbers..of course I do agree that its pointless to talk about another season..I could easily see a sci fi special or straight to dvd movie like Dead Like Me just had.
Ugh by zb.brox	Mar 9th, 2009 01:22:29 PM
optimus122--Please don't mention that fuckin' Dead Like Me movie. What a shame that sucked so bad. As to this: Isn't it sad that lack all of those reviews basically come down to "Fillion's great; the show sucks"? This is a guy who desperately needs some good material, 'cause he should be a household name.
Jor-El: ABC Targets Women by killertv	Mar 9th, 2009 01:34:02 PM
The head of ABC who has been saying the network targets older women for years. RE: Necgray's comment, CW has said they will target younger women, so I guess for Jor-El there's an "old vagina" and a "young vagina" network. Nonetheless, I think my mom may like CASTLE. And that's who they made this show for.
Fillion for Hal Jordan. by fanboy71	Mar 9th, 2009 01:59:50 PM
because i doubt this turd will last long.
Nathan gotta eat, I suppose. by fiester	Mar 9th, 2009 04:44:07 PM
But he deserves better than this tepid detective rehash.
I Like Fillion, but... by TinkerTIW	Mar 9th, 2009 05:11:22 PM
HATE, HATE, HATE this series just from the promos.
NO "FIREFLY" NAMECHECK BECAUSE THIS SUCKS? by Mullah Omar	Mar 9th, 2009 06:23:17 PM
You call out SLITHER and DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES for Fillion but not his signature FIREFLY? I guess you don't want the stink of THE CASTLE to get on one of your Whedon favorites.
Show has just been renamed "Smarmy White People" by lockesbrokenleg	Mar 9th, 2009 06:53:42 PM

Drive by Holy Hell	Mar 9th, 2009 08:00:30 PM
was fun! Castle already smells dated, and could possibly launch a sister channel to the Armed Forces Network - one that's piped exclusively into nursing homes (the ones roiling with VD). It could lead into the Merv Griffin vapid quiz show of the day. Sad.
and I think by Holy Hell	Mar 9th, 2009 08:01:58 PM
Herc's real.
Drive was shit by lockesbrokenleg	Mar 9th, 2009 08:19:45 PM
One or two likeable characters. The rest fuck up shitheads.
Dammit, the man is cursed!!! by Drath	Mar 9th, 2009 09:12:39 PM
He's either in good stuff that gets cancelled or crap (that sometimes gets cancelled too). Shit. BTW, what the fuck is ABC Family cancelling KYLE XY for? They already have my unending hate for cancelling Middleman, but now I think they're just saying "fuck you" to anyone who likes even a little sci-fi.
ABC Family = cable version of CW by Mr Spork	Mar 9th, 2009 09:19:47 PM
focusing on the female demographic and driving away other viewers
Dammit I want Journeyman! by Anino	Mar 9th, 2009 09:21:29 PM
I know, it's a losing battle. Castle will get cancelled, it's only a matter of whether or not they air the entire season. The Castle promos were the worse part of watching Lost. A writer that's bored with his own success that uses cutesy one-liners? (gag!). It would have been better if Castle had tourettes, and if the hot cop was a closet nympho. Who wouldn't watch that?
I meant 'worst' by Anino	Mar 9th, 2009 09:23:57 PM
not 'worse part of watching Lost'. I'm sorry grammar police, it won't happen again.
Stana Katic by Mr. Nice Gaius	Mar 9th, 2009 10:02:53 PM
Say what you will about the quality of the show and its potential future, but that Stana Katic chick is DELICIOUS. Damn, that is one sexy broad.
Could be a success by Adelai Niska	Mar 9th, 2009 10:04:19 PM
Why compare it to The Wire when clearly it's going for the audience that watches NCIS?
The Unusuals by TheFluxCapacitor	Mar 9th, 2009 10:11:05 PM
"Castle" wasn't bad. It's got charm. I have a feeling "The Unusuals" is the show to watch, however.
I actually liked it by jflow78	Mar 9th, 2009 10:19:11 PM
....but after reading your review I didn't expect much. And the fact that most critics agree with you actually makes me like you less. Nothing personal....I'm just sayin'.
The Mrs and I enjoyed it. by fanboy71	Mar 9th, 2009 10:25:36 PM
We'll be back next week.
But, Fillion is getting chunky by fanboy71	Mar 9th, 2009 10:26:22 PM
Hit the gym tubby. We can't have you getting too fat to play Hal Jordan.
Adelai Niska by Mr Spork	Mar 9th, 2009 10:26:50 PM
Are you disparaging NCIS? If you are, I have disagree. It's a good show.
typo correction by Mr Spork	Mar 9th, 2009 10:31:06 PM
I have to disagree.
It wasn't that bad by CherryValance	Mar 9th, 2009 10:51:50 PM
and he looked nice. Most TV shows are unwatchable but I managed to make it through this one.
COP DRAMA! by Series7	Mar 9th, 2009 11:14:32 PM
Nathan Fillion gotta eat.
Get the sticks out of yer asses! by Ka Dargo	Mar 10th, 2009 12:13:12 AM
We don't need another freakin LAw and Order type show with rapes and no laughs. I would rather have some humor instead of all the super serious stuff. It was better then most of the crap out there. Fillion can do comedy as we know from Firefly. And that Stana chick is freakin sexy as hell.
It wasn't bad by lockesbrokenleg	Mar 10th, 2009 02:15:40 AM
Typical buddy cop funny mystery stuff. Not bad. It's nice to watch a show that's not being kissed ass by the press a lot, or a show where you need a checklist for every episode.
it's a lot better` by evil dead 3d	Mar 10th, 2009 04:09:15 AM
than any of us were led to imagine. liked it fine, it easily could survive and improve. it's old fashoined, but what the fuck, and the daughter character is a nice touch too. maybe mommy will stop being such an annoying trollop, but not so bad...
LOOKS SHIT by turketron	Mar 10th, 2009 07:27:11 AM
that is all
I enjoyed it by Russman	Mar 10th, 2009 08:48:21 AM
This isn't meant to be NYPD BLUE, it's just a light detective show. I enjoyed the pilot for the sake of entertainment and yes there were some funny lines. It's cool to see Nathan back at work and I hope there will be enough people (women) out there to keep him employed.
Stana Katic was the rookie cop in The Spirit by Big Jim	Mar 10th, 2009 01:31:21 PM
I knew I knew her from somewhere.
Just Because.... by Karuma	Mar 10th, 2009 05:46:37 PM
..it's not a fanboy gulper like Buffy or Firefly doesn't mean the show doesn't merit a second or third look. True, these are characters we have seen before and plots we have seen, but....are there any characters or plots we haven't seen before? Critics have a fine line to walk. On one hand, they must refuse to pretend to like anything that doesn't have "meaning". They must rail on and on infinitum about how they are outraged by poor quality and ineffective plot and writing just to maintain there credibility. But, hey, guess what? This is a filler show, people, premiered in the middle of March to see if it flies. There have been worse and there will be better, but for now, this is not too bad, capturing the flavor of Moonlighting with a little Remington Steele and Bones thrown in. It will do, and if the writing doesn't get better, so what? I could stand a few weeks of just watching and not having to think too much.
Mr Spock by Adelai Niska	Mar 10th, 2009 07:15:46 PM
not at all, just got the same vibe off of castle
The material isn't worthy by moonshiney	Mar 10th, 2009 11:17:19 PM
of the greatness that is Nathan Fillian - it was predictable and pedestrian. However, Mal can live on by participating in NASA's contest to name the new International Space Station’s Node 3. One of the names in the running is Serenity. Given that the name of Node 1 is Unity and Node 2 is Harmony, Serenity seems a natural choice. Voting ends on March 20th!
Fillion isn't nearly as cute... by AnnoyYou	Mar 11th, 2009 12:34:50 AM
...as he thinks he is. This series is weak in the extreme, and his co-star is totally generic. This smells like awful "Journeyman"-type casting to me. I don't give a rat's ass about either of these people.
Oh, and... by AnnoyYou	Mar 11th, 2009 12:47:30 AM
...yeah - Fillion is a proven show-killer on par with the likes of Paula Marshall, Sarah Paulson, Claire Danes, Matthew Perry and (mercifully!) Dane Cook.
There were so many 20 yr old models at book signing by kabong	Mar 11th, 2009 10:26:12 AM
that it looked like the beginning of every "CSI Miami" ep where fashion models on jet skis get murdered.

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