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Is Billy Bob Thornton still up for the role?
by Sephiroid
Feb 12th, 2009
08:30:57 AM
fuckpiss
by Raindog789
Feb 12th, 2009
08:31:06 AM
that's right...fuckpiss
Remakes make baby Jesus cry
by RedwingsHoolihan
Feb 12th, 2009
08:34:11 AM
It still shouldn't get remade.
by foreverguardian
Feb 12th, 2009
08:35:24 AM
It seems that the only reason the thing is going ahead is that without it, NOES is the only horror franchise without a shitty remake to ruin its name. Oh hang on, a bunch of the sequels already did that! Seriously though, NOES 1 and 3 are incredible, and even though I agree that this remake could see the franchise go dark and creepy again, I don't think it should get made at all. It is needed about as much as that Hellraiser remake.
He should bring back the bee girl.
by rev_skarekroe
Feb 12th, 2009
08:37:11 AM
What's she been up to in the lat 15 year? The time is right for a comeback.
cant they come up with new ideas for movies?
by Groothewarrior
Feb 12th, 2009
08:39:46 AM
ive read tons of books that havent been adapted, nowdays they just remake movies that really dont need to be remade
Wes Craven's New Nightmare
by mithrandir16
Feb 12th, 2009
08:43:34 AM
felt more like a reboot than a sequel. It got back to the original Freddy, and is definitely my second favorite after the first.
Is it policy?
by filmcoyote
Feb 12th, 2009
08:49:14 AM
That if you have a movie made int he 1980s it now has to have an active remake in the pipeline or you have to leave Hollywood forever? Seriously, I was against the Halloween, Fog and EFNY remakes because Carpenter owned them; i was against Hitcher because noone could possibly play it like Hauer; and I was all for the Friday 13th and Bloody Valentine remakes because they weren't based on anything special in the first place. But NOES is a really great film. It isn't just a trashy slasher. Like Hellraiser it is a superb, frightening concept and no music-video respin can possibly do it justice. This is going to suck.
Fuck it
by D.Vader
Feb 12th, 2009
08:51:59 AM
Stupid. Won't be getting my money. The Nightmare franchise is in no way like F13, which I'll admit, out of all the classic horror slashers, stood the best to be remade.
He's a music video director. He does commercials.
by V'Shael
Feb 12th, 2009
08:52:30 AM
Are you THAT much of a studio whore that you have to try to claim this is a choice to get excited about?

Take that big fat studio exec cock out of your mouth, and take a long look in the mirror.

The fact that it's filming in Chicago...
by Mr. Profit
Feb 12th, 2009
08:57:11 AM
Shows that this won't be the sunny "California Looking" Springwood of "A Nightmare on Elm Street 4: The Dream Master". I hope that this movie is taken seriously. And the fact that they actually took to their blog to collect fan input shows they are at least trying. I love Freddy, probably more than Jason. Nightmare films has a lot of future stars in front and behind the scenes. They have a better track record with sequels as only a few of them sucked out right. I hope this director does a good job and makes Freddy less wisecracking and even darker than before. The audience shouldn't cheer for a former child molesting murderer. You should fear him.
V'Shael
by Quint
Feb 12th, 2009
08:57:24 AM
I am no studio whore. I'm making that claim based on... you know... the guy's previous work and the look he has proven he can bring. I spend the first half of the article saying why I don't think this is a good idea, but the fact that they're going with Bayer proves they're at least looking to recapture the surreal aspect of the series. I was dreading a Paul WS Anderson or Marcus Nispel on this. Nispel can make pretty looking movies, but I don't think he's a match for this material. Can Bayer fuck this up? Sure. I don't know if he can work with actors, I don't know if he can fine tune the script to make it the best it can be. I only know that visually he's an interesting choice.
Also Leighton Meester for Nancy....
by Mr. Profit
Feb 12th, 2009
09:00:58 AM
You will have the ridiculously fanatical Gossip Girl crowd of 3 Million Viewers running to see this opening day. That's at least 30 mil right there. And she's the best actress on the show.
Christopher Meloni for Freddy
by Mr. Profit
Feb 12th, 2009
09:05:58 AM
Everyone keeps saying Ben Foster or Robert Knepper or Billy Bob Thornton. Ben Foster is a rising young actor that probably won't want to be tied to a movie that will spawn many sequels. And Robert and Billy Bob look TOO much like perverts. It will be totally unconvincing if neighborhood children go missing for weeks and no one suspects the perviest looking dude on the block. If you get someone who looks normal, like Meloni (especially since audiences are used to seeing him protect sex crime victims on TV) it would work. Plus we all know he got the chops to pull it off from his stint on "Oz". I personally wouldn't want to replace Englund. But I know he gave this movie his blessing to find a new Kreuger.
Blind Melon
by jarjarmessiah
Feb 12th, 2009
09:08:00 AM
I remember letting out a sigh of relief when I found out Shannon Hoon died, because I knew I would not have listen to his Joplinesque man-screeching anymore. Now if Linkin Park would just die Iwould be even happier.
f13
by ryan74
Feb 12th, 2009
09:08:08 AM
saw f13 and it rocks. i'm waiting for freddy now.
FUCK this movie!!
by HerbWestAustin
Feb 12th, 2009
09:22:34 AM
Fuck Michael Bay and Fuck Platinum Dunes!! What's next? The Exorcist or Rosemary's baby? Everyone needs to boycott Platnium Dunes.
Der
by Quint
Feb 12th, 2009
09:24:56 AM
You're right. Chris Cunningham would have been ideal. I'm not listening to the music, just looking at the pure visual style, Whiny. Forget the audience for the music and give those videos a look again and see what he can visually bring to the world.

I'm not championing him as a pick nor am I suggesting this movie is a good idea. I'm just explaining why I feel this is an interesting choice for director.
Adam Sandler as Freddy
by HerbWestAustin
Feb 12th, 2009
09:29:23 AM
Have you noticed PLatinum Dunes always casts CW teen heart-throb teen actors in their remakes? Like Texas Chainsaw, and now F13 Bullshit
For now, I will say it's gonna suck.
by HorrorFan81
Feb 12th, 2009
09:31:05 AM
Platinum Dunes track record with serious horror so far has been pretty shitty. I hold no hope for the Nightmare remake at this point.
NEIL PATRICK HARRIS!
by Rex Manning
Feb 12th, 2009
09:38:16 AM
I'm not kidding, think about it! He's versatile and even looks like a young Robert Englund.
You know what
by TheMcflyFarm
Feb 12th, 2009
09:38:50 AM
This movie completely runs my life. I am fucking done living!

by lsleelee
Feb 12th, 2009
09:41:53 AM
Remakes have two settings : meandering, bloated, self-indulgent love letter (Jackson King Kong) and soulless money grab (everything Platinum Dunes does). Comic book adaptations are worse, somehow getting made by people dumber than the morons who read the originals. Real book adaptations are even very unreliable. Original material, please!
CW Teen Heartthrobs-
by Mr. Profit
Feb 12th, 2009
09:42:26 AM
Bring in the CW Teen disposable income from fans. The Unborn had no name folks in it and it just did OK. MBV3D had Supernatural boy and it made money. The same will happen with F13. The fanbase for Supernatural is as equally as rabid and supportive as the ones for Gossip Girl and One Tree Hill. Hiring those kids to be in movies where they will be slaughtered by a killer is a no brainer because they aren't divas who ask for millions and they come cheap. With a movie budget at 15 million you can't afford to pay anyone over 500K.
Chris Cunningham
by CharyouTree
Feb 12th, 2009
09:43:09 AM
..will NEVER do a feature film, he's too much of a perfectionist, and is never happy, which makes me very sad.
I will only accept this if...
by I_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looki ng_for
Feb 12th, 2009
09:44:12 AM
Billy Bob plays Freddy as Karl Childers.

"Urm... Come to... Urm... Come to... Urm... Freddy. Come to Freddy. Urm hurm."

Michael
by jpdisco
Feb 12th, 2009
09:44:23 AM
Michael Gondry directs...
by jpdisco
Feb 12th, 2009
09:45:16 AM
Jim Carrey for Freddy. Christian Bale IS Nancy...
Where's your hall pass?
by Mr. Profit
Feb 12th, 2009
09:47:45 AM
Bale: Fuck your hall pass you fucking amature. You are standing there while a body bag is dragging itself down the all adadadadadadada.
New ideas for this one (cuz I have so many).
by Fawst
Feb 12th, 2009
09:54:07 AM
Make Freddy like Eddie the Head. Depict him in crazy nightmarish ways. I know they've sorta done this before, but it'd be much cooler if it wasn't just a dude with a glove with knives on it. And for fuck's sake, make the nightmares actually scary!
DAVID FINCHER was a music video/commerical director as well.
by Mike_D
Feb 12th, 2009
09:55:50 AM
until he did ALIEN 3.
they should have considered Haute Tension dude...
by Flip63Hole
Feb 12th, 2009
09:58:31 AM
he would have been an okay choice - even though Mirrors sucked donkey scrotum...
I'd say if you HAVE to re-cast Freddy...
by TylerDurden3395
Feb 12th, 2009
10:01:35 AM
Michael Shannon would be a good choice. Anybody see him in Bug? That dude was freaky!
I've heard they're playing up the "child molester" angle.
by TylerDurden3395
Feb 12th, 2009
10:09:05 AM
Which is a good idea. The last thing you want from this remake is people rooting for Freddy. I thought Ronny Yu did a credible job at making Freddy scary again. That scene where the pre-burnt Freddy was smoking a cigarette and caressing the kid's picture was genuiunely creepy.
Billy Bob was never up for the role
by MorpheusTheSandman
Feb 12th, 2009
10:21:24 AM
Was just a rumor. And David Fincher, Michael Gondry, Spike Jonze, Ridley Scott, all directors of music video's or commercials before they went on to make feature movies.
Fuck This Shit! TIRED OF IT!!
by loserguy3000
Feb 12th, 2009
10:21:24 AM
Oh COME ON, people. If there was ever a reason for talkbackers to be legitimately pissy and sound off, its this. Those who moan about the lack of originality in Hollywood are 100% right on this one - its almost embarrassing that they keep shooting for the same basket, almost knowing that they're going to miss it every fucking time.

And Quint, grow some balls. There's no way this remake should be happening, in any time or in any form. Let Freddy stay Freddy by way of Englund. Even favorable 'Dream Casting' is like knowing you're going to be sodomized, but taking a small amount of pleasure knowing its by someone you like. Fuck That!!

LEAVE...FREDDY...ALONE!!
"hey that guy who did that video 18 years ago..hed be a good cho
by SomaShine
Feb 12th, 2009
10:23:30 AM
People keep on crying
by Mr.FTW
Feb 12th, 2009
10:26:38 AM
People keep bitching about how these remakes are going to be geared towards teens, who do you thnk the target audience was for the originals? These movies are not being made for of marketed to guys in their 30s and 40s just like the originals weren't. These remakes are designed to scare and titllate the money out of kids just like the originals were. Why is that so hard to understand?
Mr.FTW
by rev_skarekroe
Feb 12th, 2009
10:37:41 AM
You're wasting your time. You're dealing with people who demand that their childhood grow up with them. They ain't gonna listen to us.

That said, if you're GOING TO make crappy teen horror movies at least make NEW crappy teen horror movies.

Mr.FTW.....
by pdennett316
Feb 12th, 2009
10:39:04 AM
I think the problem stems from the act that while the original was geared for a teen audience, it wasn't a patronizing or dumbed down concept or script.

Nowadays when they market to teens, it's the teen moron demographic not the non-retards who are targeted.

Also, N.P.H. for the role of Freddy...he'd be pretty damn good in my opinion.

He also did all of green day's last videos
by Broseph
Feb 12th, 2009
10:43:32 AM
Tarsem would be ideal
by Spandau Belly
Feb 12th, 2009
10:51:26 AM
Even though I didn't really care for The Cell, I really liked The Fall and the guy can definately do surreal dream imagery and do stories that take place half in reality and half in fantasy.
Candyman
by enderandrew
Feb 12th, 2009
10:56:12 AM
Let's go in a COMPLETELY different direction, rather than ape Englund's performance. Since they want to make Candyman white, why not take the Candyman actor, and make him Freddy? Tony Todd's voice is pretty creepy. He is a scary looking guy. And he would definately by a very different take on the role. He could add a brutality to Freddy.
Who Threw the tomato at jesus??
by Six Demon Bag
Feb 12th, 2009
11:00:16 AM
wondered when Bayer would direct feature? he's made some solid videos...Zombie, metallica, yada
Your right about the campy later flicks. Bad
by Knobules
Feb 12th, 2009
11:05:19 AM
Well the Wes Craven one was pretty good. However there were a few in there that bordered on Army of Darkness campy. I think it was 4, Freddy claw acting like a shark fin in Jaws for the opening, yikes that was bad.
FUCK IT!
by lovecraftian
Feb 12th, 2009
11:18:30 AM
No way. No how. I usually don't harp on remakes. But, frankly, even though we all love Kane Hodder, nobody, NOBODY else is Freddy but Robert Englund. In addition, this is the kind of shit that keeps people from coming up with orignal takes on all of these horror concepts. Because every few minutes or so, some studio jackass says, "Hey! We own the rights. Let's create more bullshit!" The truth is, the truly great creative ideas are becoming sullied and shelved because the remake hounds won't stop.
Robert Englund
by 420 Boylston St
Feb 12th, 2009
11:27:54 AM
should be Freddy Krueger. It not like we have to SEE his old face. He would be behind make up. My goodness the man CREATED THE CHARACTER!
Nancy will be ruined...
by Miss 45
Feb 12th, 2009
11:28:31 AM
She was the typical wholesome girl next door before. In the remake she'll be perfectly plucked, laquered, manicured and CW doll-like. I am sad.
I want Freddy vs Shocker.
by Nice Marmot
Feb 12th, 2009
11:29:24 AM
Mitchy's gotta eat too!!!
F*CK THAT
by karmakitten13
Feb 12th, 2009
12:05:28 PM
Robert Englund is and always will be Freddy. There is NO NEED for a remake, and there will never be one. I don't care if Christ himself is directing.
Freddy vs. Candyman vs. Michael Meyers (the actor)
by turketron
Feb 12th, 2009
12:06:12 PM
For making shit like The Love Guru
MOVING TO ASIA
by karmakitten13
Feb 12th, 2009
12:06:46 PM
.... it seems that is the only way we can get some good original horror these days - before that too hits the states and gets turned into a bullshitty remake starting Sarah Michelle Geller.
turketron
by karmakitten13
Feb 12th, 2009
12:08:58 PM
I stand corrected. Now that's a remake i could get behind! Though i think i may prefer to watch Mike Myers fall into the hands of Pinhead.
BEN FOSTER AS FREDDY!!!
by RpgSama
Feb 12th, 2009
12:14:47 PM
He was fucking creepy in 30 days of night and 3:10 to Yuma, the only thing against him is that he is very young, but i can't think of anyone else...
What about Doug Jones?
by Kammich
Feb 12th, 2009
12:17:56 PM
I'm not condoning nor condemning this remake, because I honestly don't care; why bother agitating yourself about the quality of a reboot when we were already subjected to 5(arguably less, arguably more--I love DC and New Nightmare) god awful sequels? Anyway, I think an awesome choice for Freddy would be Doug Jones. That long, wiry frame... the amazing things he can do with body language... and picture that glove on those long creepy ass fingers.
hmmm... INTERESTING
by RICH2
Feb 12th, 2009
12:19:22 PM
I dig the choice. And its completely unrelated but Sam Bayer's brother Josh Bayer is a fairly prolific underground comic artist.
Tarsem is busy....
by Mr. Profit
Feb 12th, 2009
12:45:13 PM
Making a "300" like epic about waring ancient Greek Gods. It's supposed to look like a painting. "The Fall" was good. I am surprised about it's lack of any nomination for Cinematography or Visual Effects or Costume Design.
Tarsem
by DeadPanWalking
Feb 12th, 2009
12:47:59 PM
If anybody had half a brain they would have tried to get Tarsem Singh (The Cell, The Fall) to direct this. It would have at least been interesting.
Nancy
by Mr. Profit
Feb 12th, 2009
12:48:16 PM
She has to be cute because that Plain Jane shit doesn't fly with the target audience for this remake.

http://tinyurl.com/6mhygp

Tarsem's next project is "War of the Gods"
by Mr. Profit
Feb 12th, 2009
12:52:35 PM
http://tinyurl.com/b4w7xu
CRISPIN GLOVER AS FREDDY
by GQSioux
Feb 12th, 2009
12:53:25 PM
I agree Tarsem Singh would've been perfect. I wasl also secretly hoping that Zack Snyder would've done it. As for Freddy, I'm all about CRISPIN GLOVER
THIS MOVIE RUINED MY LIFE!
by TheMcflyFarm
Feb 12th, 2009
12:54:54 PM
I'm dead
CRISPIN GLOVER AS FREDDY
by GQSioux
Feb 12th, 2009
12:57:08 PM
I'd love for Englund to return, but if that doesn't happen, Crispin is the next best thing.
CRISPIN GLOVER AS FREDDY
by GQSioux
Feb 12th, 2009
12:57:09 PM
I'd love for Englund to return, but if that doesn't happen, Crispin is the next best thing.
Some of you people are naive
by Carnotaur3
Feb 12th, 2009
01:12:34 PM
Do you not realize that most directors come from commercial background or music video background these days. You want to know why?! Because they're actually ways to get your work noticed and for studios to pick you up. In other words, you're making commercials and music videos to get your foot in the door. It's what Fincher did. I'm willing to bet most of those directors are artists who want to make feature films but they have to pay their dues to do so. Every director does. Sure there's that lucky chance like Spielberg that comes along, but seriously guys. Do the research and see how the business works and WHY there are commercial and music video directors. It isn't because that's their dream.
In all fairness, Lockwood...
by Donnacha
Feb 12th, 2009
01:13:19 PM
... Cobain hated everything. Even if he was unhappy with the video, it doesn't change the fact that it's a good one.
Crispin Glover
by Mr. Profit
Feb 12th, 2009
01:13:53 PM
Is difficult to work with isn't he? He'd only pull his same Back to the Future 2 bullshit when sequel time rolls around.
The video Cobain hated....
by Mr. Profit
Feb 12th, 2009
01:18:13 PM
Catapulted the band to the mainstream and is one of the defining (if not definitive) video of that era.
Freddy v Jason was a missed opportunity
by wowsah156
Feb 12th, 2009
02:30:44 PM
Freddy was the child abuser. Jason was a victim of abuse. That could have done a really nasty turn looking into the true horror of child abuse through Freddy V Jason. but alas it never was. This movie should focus on the horror of how sick Krueger REALLY is. Remember he is the bastard son of a "thousand maniacs" who raped a nun, his mother. So he has father issues, and hates kids who have decent parents. A lot to explore there me thinks.
When remakes happen this quickly, it's just imitation
by kevred
Feb 12th, 2009
03:13:01 PM
Okay, so I know it's been over 20 years, but in cinema time that's a shorter leap than any previous 20 years. A big difference compared to, say, Heston's Ben Hur remake.

The old films still hold up--all that's changed is fashion and the level of precision in cinematography. The only special effects advance is CG, which is mostly useless in slasher movies.

I don't see how this won't come across as just karaoke. Freddy's a much too recent and too-well-realized icon to just be "rebooted".

GREAT CHOICE.
by alice 13
Feb 12th, 2009
03:17:06 PM
im actually interested now. next get rid of old lame freddy and make a freddy thats a nightmare.
The reason this cycle isn't ending: easy money
by kevred
Feb 12th, 2009
03:21:40 PM
It's sad but true. Movie studios and their corporate partners see one thing and one thing only: remakes make money. Maybe not always huge amounts, but they simply make money as regularly as a cash machine. How can anyone whose interests are solely financial do anything but keep coming back to the well again and again?

And it's a vicious cycle. We can say "boycott these films, don't support it!" But just the number of people in this country who casually, uncritically go out to see new movies each week is enough to keep it going. Since so many of these awful remakes are being made, most people have little choice when going to see movies regularly but to see this junk.

The studios are the only ones who can break this cycle, but what could possibly cause people to pass up easy money? And using cheap talent on both sides of the camera makes it an even better deal.

They don't care about purists, don't care about canon, don't care about originality. They're in the business for money, and this is a ready supply of it. They will keep going relentlessly until there's nothing left to cannibalize. And by then, there will be the 90s to remake.

It's depressing--remakes of well-done modern movies are insulting wastes of time. But what can be done?

When an 18 year old music video is still your calling card
by I am_NOTREAL
Feb 12th, 2009
03:22:14 PM
It's time to get to work on something else. Not to mention the fact that the video (and Nirvana) weren't all that fucking great to begin with. Nirvana, you could say, was The Dark Knight of its day - both competent, occasionally excellent, but nowhere near as immortally, earth-shakingly great as they got puffed up to be my myopic fanbases.
Hate to be a Downer....
by the1980mutant
Feb 12th, 2009
03:24:03 PM
They are going to market this to teens and although there are some exciting ways they could go with this, they are going to dumb it down for the common audience. I'll always have my memories of the old ones, which will count to me, however bad and cheesy they were.
And it's always a missed opportunity.
by kevred
Feb 12th, 2009
03:25:42 PM
Lots of good ideas here for ambitious, artistically challenging ways to update the concept or character. But we never see the cool ideas happen, because that's not why the films are being remade.

They're being remade as safe investments, and you don't play it safe by taking a weird, obtuse new direction, by deepening things. You get your money back by pretty much just doing what they did the first time, because that's what worked the first time.

If all these junk remakes were genuine cases of talented people getting together and asking, "how can we take this to a whole new artistic level?", it'd be different. But it's not.

Ben Foster would be great except...
by Darth Macchio
Feb 12th, 2009
03:29:03 PM
..that a NoES remake is destined for ass. But yes, if it must absolutely be made...Foster would be my choice for a young Freddy. This is supposed to be a pure remake and not a 'reboot' or a 'prequel' or a 'sequel' so methinks Foster should stay away as this has all the likelihood to be severe ass.
Based on what exactly?
by Rev. Slappy
Feb 12th, 2009
04:00:07 PM
What about Bay's production company (or, for that matter Bay himself) would make anybody think they could make a good film.
This will be a tough remake to make..................
by crackerfarmboy
Feb 12th, 2009
05:40:42 PM
I have no problem with the concept of a re-imagining here. Jason got a 21st century update and so should Freddy. ANOES was actually a good film though so I sure hope they take it seriously.
Who the fuck on AICN watched All My Children?
by Zeegloo
Feb 12th, 2009
05:55:23 PM
Interesting choice in advertisements.
Robert Knepper (Prison break) as Freddy
by MaxCalifornia.
Feb 12th, 2009
06:41:34 PM
If you've seen five minutes of him in Prison Break you know he'd make a great Freddy!
Why not just make this Freddy X are whatever nuber they are on?
by Series7
Feb 12th, 2009
07:04:42 PM
Seriously, fucking what next? A reboot of The Unborn?
a'member
by ballsmcretard
Feb 12th, 2009
07:11:07 PM
when that guy had the bad poos and he was singing that song in the outhouse? "Oooh, baby oooh bay-bah." Man he got his life killed so hard by Jason. Friday rules. NOES is for gays - pass it on.
Make Freddy more mature, like a total bum that abuses his kid
by crayotic
Feb 12th, 2009
07:17:47 PM
And cast JCVD in Englund's role while you're at it
Sam Rockwell
by JackBauer24
Feb 12th, 2009
07:23:27 PM
Doesn't need to be done, but if it has to be... I vot Rockwell for Freddy.
Pick an unknown
by rsanta74
Feb 12th, 2009
08:11:13 PM
Don't pick anybody with even half a name to be the new Freddy. Seriously. If they do, every sequel after becomes too damn expensive and contract negotiations become that much more torturous. Pick an unknown - somebody more likely to be a celeb within the genre and nowhere else.

That's why Robert Englund works. He's a genre star. He'll never be the leading man in the next Spielberg movie, but he'll never want for recognition at the conventions. Because of that, he'll always be easy to sign. Pick a name and the series is just f***ed. They'll be rotating Freddy actors like it was Batman.

At the very least, choose a TV actor. Pick somebody that is great on the small screen, but may just never make it big on the silver screen. For my money, that'd be Smallville's Michael Rosenbaum (Lex Luthor). This guy's got the build, the facial structure, the stage presence, and the basic acting chops to pull off Freddy. He can pull off scary and intimidating as well as he can funny and bizarre. More importantly, he'll never be a big movie star and the paychecks will always be reasonable.

As far as the director goes, who knows? You just might be surprised. Renny Harlin's career was more or less launched by the NOES franchise with #4 - the last credible entry in the series & the one that tied up the story of Dream Warriors from #3. His resume before that? Super ultra mega meh. After? "Die Hard 2" A lot of clunkers after, but c'mon. Freakin' "Die Hard 2." =) This choice of directors may just surprise us.

I don't think that the experimental nature of the dreams necessarily killed the franchise. I don't even think that it was the humor. Sure. The dreams were over the top to the point of excess. Enough to kill the series? Not sure. Of course Freddy got too funny, to he point of self-parody at times. Enough to kill the series? Not sure.

What killed the series? Budget. NOES 1 cost $1.8M to make in 1984. That's $3.6M or so by 2009 standards. Y'know what? You can't afford fancy mind altering dream sequences with that $1.8M. You can't afford big actors. You've got to pick no names. You've got to rely on story to provide the scares. You've got to rely on the cover of night to hide your mistakes or cutbacks.

In short, you've got to make more with less. A lower budget will force you to stay on track and avoid all of that excess. Stupid campy humor in a horror movie wastes film. Film costs money. Big & wacky cartoon-like nightmare death traps aren't an option. The solution? Lots of blood. Lots of guts. Lots of scares that prey on the fears you can't avoid.

The real test here will be a writer that knows how to write. Craven isn't a spectacular writer, but he knew that the teens being hacked weren't disposable characters. They were people, even when they were lame or dorky. At least you could relate to them or knew somebody like them. So, when they got hacked you missed them. You even got pissed at Freddy instead of rooting for him. That's the strength in Craven's NOES and Scream work.

What the reboot needs here is somebody who knows how to make us love the characters so that we'll hate Freddy for killing them. Just like we hated him for whacking Nancy. The bastard. =)

The one thing this series needs to do in order to "get it right" is to NOT let us get to know Freddy as a person. Don't humanize him. Let him be that soulless & evil SOB who kidnapped and killed/raped (?) kids. Let him be that guy that got torched by the angry parents. Let him be an even more soulless and evil SOB who comes back in their kids dreams. Whatever they do... DON'T GET INTO FREDDY'S PAST. If we care about him, we won't care as much about his victims. We might even feel sorry for him, being a victim of circumstances - raped mom & abusive foster dad.

This reboot could "get it right" in the same way that 1,3,4, & 7 did. It could also massively fail in the same way that 2, 5, & 6 did. It could also straddle the border between respectful and downright parody that FvJ did.

One false step and BOOM!!!

Also...
by rsanta74
Feb 12th, 2009
08:20:40 PM
Let's not think for a second about choosing well known victims either. TV people or extreme nobodies FTW. NOES was good enough to launch Johnny Depp into super stardom. It was good enough to push Patricia Arquette or Laurence Fishburne into the spotlight. All of whom were unrecognizable names before NOES flicks. Nobodies that may just become somebodies. That's the ticket. Just so long as Freddy doesn't have the potential to pull a Hugh Jackman and become bigger than his role. (Although Jackman does still know where his bread is buttered.)
I think this is a good one to redo
by jimmy_009
Feb 12th, 2009
08:52:20 PM
The original (and especially the sequels) ruined a lot of the scares in favor of being silly and having increasingly over the top and ridiculous kills. If they focused on what makes Freddy scary and not turn him into a clown it could actually be worthwhile.
damn, Tarsem's
by vaudeville villain
Feb 12th, 2009
09:20:36 PM
[Enter Button Fail] damn, Tarsem's "War of the Gods"
by vaudeville villain
Feb 12th, 2009
09:26:19 PM
sounds sweet as hell. oh, and this NOES remake will be ass regardless of who they cast as freddy. this movie is needed about as much as a bald, scarred, see-through mask wearing cobra commander... or a bummy, kid-beating JCVD.
Kinda dig the remakes......
by TheFunkyEnigma
Feb 12th, 2009
09:49:07 PM
if it is to a point that the sequels suck cock. Halloween, texas chain saw and friday the 13th may have not been has good as the originals, but they blow the sequels outta the fuckin water (later sequels at least) I have been raped by me horror sequels so long, a reboot is sometimes the only answer.I want more freddy stories, and if this is the only way then so be it. Just leave Evil Dead the fuck alone....
Unless its Evil Dead 4
by TheFunkyEnigma
Feb 12th, 2009
09:54:30 PM
imagine it. That and ghostbusters 3. Beleave people.
RE: "not turn him into a clown"
by rsanta74
Feb 12th, 2009
09:55:57 PM
There's nothing wrong with a little humor here & there. There have been instances in NOES & FvJ where Freddy's humor wasn't downright embarrassing, but actually somewhat disturbing.

The problem with making Freddy crack wise is when they do shit like have him play with a Nintendo Power Glove, give up a stoner stare, and say stuff like, "Whoah. Great graphics." Now, that's not funny. That's just stupid.

Anything Freddy says, serious or jokingly, should be just as terrifying and horrific as anything he does. It may not be a joke to those of use with actual souls, but hey... humor is humor.

Actually, I think that the funniest scene in any top tier horror flick has got to be watching Jason beating to death one camper in a sleeping bag with another in a sleeping bag. Sick, twisted, and hilarious.

If Freddy's funny it should be in such a way that you laugh mainly at stuff or situations that society says that you're not really supposed to. "I can't believe he said that." "I can't believe he did that." "Jeez. He's so sick to find that funny. Twisted bastard. I love him."

Horror movie funny should never be the same as regular movie funny. Not even the same as black comedy funny. Totally different sorta funny. Almost taboo even.

Another funny horror movie scene...
by rsanta74
Feb 12th, 2009
10:02:30 PM
Michael Meyers dressed as a ghost with glasses in the very 1st Halloween movie.

- It's funny because it doesn't have to do anything more than just BE.

- It's funny because you know that it's just a prelude to his next murder.

- It's funny because thinking about Michael's logic actually makes it even funnier. He's dressed up as a ghost... with glasses.... while wearing another mask under. Very absurd. I still laugh whenever I see it, even though that chick gets strangled 30 seconds later. LOL

haley joel osmet as freddy
by hauntedhoneymoon
Feb 12th, 2009
10:53:00 PM
Kurt Cobain As freddy...sort of
by topdolla69
Feb 12th, 2009
11:44:51 PM
Why not use Kurt's bones as freddy's burnt remains, that would be fuggin awesome...
Another chintzy music video director like Francis Lawrence
by reflecto
Feb 12th, 2009
11:59:28 PM
Or Marcus Nispel. I can't wait for more bland grunge horror.
Michael Shannon for Freddy.
by DirkVega
Feb 13th, 2009
12:20:58 AM
If the shooting schedule doesn't interfere with the Herzog film, that is...
Remakes ahoy!
by Davidia
Feb 13th, 2009
01:24:48 AM
Remakes were getting out of hand 5 FUCKING years ago. Now it's just hilarious, like we're living in a world of satire.
Bay-er
by CuervoJones
Feb 13th, 2009
02:41:12 AM
Gayer.
Two music videos of two dead musicians.
by Sithlord_999
Feb 13th, 2009
02:47:30 AM
I thought someone was going to point this out sooner or later. Who else is left from the 90's MTV music video directors who need to make the jump to movies? Kevin Kerslake? How about CHRIS CUNNINGHAM!!! GO SAMUEL BAYER. About TIME!
you know they are gonna wus out on his backstory
by BMacSmith
Feb 13th, 2009
03:33:31 AM
i bet he wont be a child abuser or torched by an angry mob.
I think Iron Man is do for a reimagining...
by Davidia
Feb 13th, 2009
08:09:02 AM
At least before Iron Man 2 comes out, that way I can get a fresh and updated perspective on the character before the sequel comes out to that archaic flick.
Goddamnit, "due".
by Davidia
Feb 13th, 2009
08:10:06 AM
It's 2009! Where the fuck is an edit function! You should re-imagine the talkbalks.
Love the original but it COULD be improved upon...
by Mrhazard
Feb 13th, 2009
10:27:46 AM
Even tho NoES is probably my favorite slasher of all time, the ending could've been better... The movie kinda peaks with Johnny Depp getting eaten by his own bed... After that, the whole sequence of Nancy fighting Freddy with booby traps she placed in the house is kind of goofy... I do like the part of killing Freddy by ignoring him but everything else is kind of weak... The ending being a dream and Freddy grabbing Nancy's mom was done well but still kind of stupid in retrospect... The main reason its acceptable is because in NoES anything is possible because you dont know what's a dream and what's real (probably the main reason why I love the original so much)...
Forget a Depp cameo, make him Freddy
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Feb 13th, 2009
01:09:22 PM
or don't bother making this movie at all.
Confirmation this will officially suck
by Geekhaterssuck
Feb 13th, 2009
02:52:03 PM
EW.com reports that Lindsay Lohan has been cast in the lead.
Confirmation: You should have some faith
by Dr. Samuel Loomis
Feb 13th, 2009
04:21:35 PM
I know this guy doesn't have a whole hell of a lot of work behind the camera but if he can shoot a video with like a grey, gritty, grungy undertown in the 90's with a shitty camera, I think he could do a lot better in 09. We could always call in Zombie? I really don't know who else I would see directing it.
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