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FIRST FUCKERS
by rhcp2sweet
Jan 25th, 2009
04:07:08 AM
HAHAHAHAHA
He who is first shall be last...
by CENOBITE
Jan 25th, 2009
04:58:05 AM
Oh man... I can't wait for more John Carter news. Civil war soldier...I wonder if they will keep him a 'johnny rebel'.
fuck yeah
by cineninja
Jan 25th, 2009
05:02:21 AM
Ive been waiting for a big screen JCOM my entire life. The Barsoom series were some of the first books I ever read. considering the approach he wants to take I think it would be badass to do an extra for the DVD like 'Walking with Dinosaurs' where they do a Nature channel style look at the flora and fauna of Barsoom. cant fuckin wait to see some Thark and Warhoon going at it or the white apes.... Geekgasm
PIXAR sucks balls
by ironic_name
Jan 25th, 2009
05:06:30 AM
I have faith in Andrew Stanton on John Carter
by HEADGEEK
Jan 25th, 2009
05:12:28 AM
and frankly... can't wait to see it.
hugh jackman & rhona mitra [or actress that ain't boyish]
by ironic_name
Jan 25th, 2009
05:13:44 AM
rhona is willing to nude up, kate beckinsale or rachel weitz, not gonna happen. unless of course they nipple jewell her.
HEADGEEK
by ironic_name
Jan 25th, 2009
05:15:28 AM
I don't.
Stanton
by AdmiralNeck
Jan 25th, 2009
05:18:18 AM
His answers address every concern I had about Wall*E, and make me feel bad for not loving the film as much as everyone else. I wish I'd been able to read this before rewatching it the other day. That second viewing didn't change my mind, that it's very good, not great. Maybe with this knowledge I would have been more forgiving.

That said, I still think the movie needed about 75% less falling over and having things drop on Wall*E's head. That shit got tired about twenty minutes in.

Consult Frank Cho for Deja Thoris...
by CENOBITE
Jan 25th, 2009
05:18:19 AM
when it comes to casting someone for Deja Thoris? Frank Cho's illustrations are dead on (at least to what was in my head for that glistening, black haired, naked red girl). But COME ON... DISNEY?! Ugh, that's why reading this book will always be superior to film.
Oh, and...
by AdmiralNeck
Jan 25th, 2009
05:19:10 AM
More Appaloosa is okay by me. that movie was very pleasant to watch.
I'd much rather jackson and weta on this
by ironic_name
Jan 25th, 2009
05:20:33 AM
people have been looking for cho's brandy for a while
by ironic_name
Jan 25th, 2009
05:22:01 AM
veronica zemanova with some lynda carter.
KAOR!!
by sanzaru
Jan 25th, 2009
06:26:22 AM
I have never been this hopeful for a movie to succeed...Sure sounds like they're headed in the right direction!
Remember THE VISITOR starring John Huston?
by Bob Cryptonight
Jan 25th, 2009
06:40:31 AM
Real crappy OMEN type rip-off movie?
Harry? When can you tell us about what happened to your John Car
by CoursinLarry
Jan 25th, 2009
07:04:38 AM
Are there rules or laws that make it unlawful for you to discuss exactly what occurred during the development of your movie? I know about the Robert Rodriguez DGA thing, but there's got to be more to it. Right? I don't know too much about that stuff, but I have a feeling an article about that would be pretty damn interesting. If it's possible.
...ter movie?
by CoursinLarry
Jan 25th, 2009
07:05:21 AM
(Sorry. I didn't realize my headline was cut short.)
Not enough 3-D...done right perhaps
by Shub-Wankalot
Jan 25th, 2009
07:29:32 AM
I'm hoping that Avatar will prove to be the watershed moment in the 3-D crusade. John Carter of Mars going live...much like Star Wars and Lord of the Rings. I hope that translates well to the big screen, seeing how folks may have become jaded by the unusual and fantastic.
What happened to Harry Knowles' JCOM?
by Laserhead
Jan 25th, 2009
08:07:30 AM
Same thing that happened to Ghost Town?
paul blart of mars
by ironic_name
Jan 25th, 2009
09:19:25 AM
oh no he di'unt!
So was this panel about how...
by strongbadmonkey
Jan 25th, 2009
11:19:26 AM
this will never be made and stay in development hell? Why ruin a great thing by actually trying to do something with it.
FUCK Jackson!
by malificus
Jan 25th, 2009
11:32:05 AM
Give me a fuckin' break already, a more over-blown, over-hyped and desperately-in-need-of-editing mess of a bore you are less likely to find. Ooo, here's the Hobbit staring blankly in a dream state and falling over..Oooo, here's stupid cg creature slithering his words and being annoying as hell...Oooo, big cg battle scene with lots of swords. There's your fucking Lord of the Rings right there, along with 79 unendurable hours of "who gives a frog's fat ass?" extras. Hand it to me quick, my drink is sweating and I need a coaster.
malificus. Clerks 2 did it better
by Talkbacker with no name
Jan 25th, 2009
11:41:23 AM
Nice try though, you goof.
Never seen it.
by malificus
Jan 25th, 2009
11:45:38 AM
Please enlighten me.
Lightweights.
by Ray Gamma
Jan 25th, 2009
11:45:53 AM
It will be disappointing. Here's why: ALL of the current Hollywood poster children are lightweights. All of the films that claim to be 'reminiscent of classic cult 60s & 70s films' (e.g. Silent Running or 2001) are in fact lightweight, forgettable politically-correct CGI-fests.
And thanks for the 'goof'
by malificus
Jan 25th, 2009
11:46:52 AM
it's the nicest thing anyone's ever called me here.
Typical AICN talkback
by Charlie_Allnut
Jan 25th, 2009
11:51:09 AM
Movie hasn't even started production and everybody is already whining.
I just You Tubed it
by malificus
Jan 25th, 2009
11:52:21 AM
Ha-ha! That was awesome. I'll step aside on that one, Randal rocked that one.
I've got some info about it...
by unionJACKass.webs.com
Jan 25th, 2009
12:11:42 PM
... Harry won't be producing it, he's too busy fawning over those terrible ScriptGirl vids. hehe
Nice piece BTW, Quint
by unionJACKass.webs.com
Jan 25th, 2009
12:14:56 PM
I might be a critical fucker, but I do give credit when credit is due.
I love these Sword and Sorcery guys...
by WhoDis
Jan 25th, 2009
12:25:13 PM
(which I guess I include myself among, but still...) who someone expect the female leads to be topless throughout the film just because that's how they were in the classic paintings and illustrations were. Heck even the great Ralph Bakshi and Frank Frazetta chickened out in their FIRE & ICE movie, and she was animated! It's just not going to happen. And it's not going to ruin the movie.
Wells is such a tool
by Bass Ackwards
Jan 25th, 2009
12:39:20 PM
That is all.
What the fuck is up with these awards popups?
by Gozu
Jan 25th, 2009
12:40:19 PM
I know that's how you make your $5.50 a month off this fucking site, but they are the most obnoxious things I've ever seen.
Dear Director and casting people
by Xiphos_2
Jan 25th, 2009
12:41:57 PM
Memo to the producers and director and of JCOM(CC:the Mouse House), please reject the impluse to hire Hugh Jackman as John Carter. I know this will be hard and on the surface he's tempting no doubt. I was on board briefly, but upon further review he's not a good choice. Jackman is a likeable fellow and a servicable actor but he lacks that sense of danger and death that John carter has. It's really what hamstrung him as Wolverine. So please consider somebody else in the role thanks. Sincerly,

Xiphos

I don't know...
by wampa 1
Jan 25th, 2009
01:00:05 PM
...but it sure smells good!
So it should be similar to Pirates in scope and design
by terry1978
Jan 25th, 2009
01:03:41 PM
You won't be getting any nudity with a Disney John Carter, but they will got the mid-PG-13 route as far as they can stretch it as they did with the Pirates franchise, though.
Billy Crudup IS John Carter!
by DocPazuzu
Jan 25th, 2009
01:22:27 PM
You know this makes perfect sense.

Barsoomian women? Zemanova or Baird-type women, please. Cast them in that pneumatic fashion and they won't even HAVE to be nude. Although it would be nice...

Damn, I missed this?
by DisneyFanatic
Jan 25th, 2009
01:33:05 PM
I really should do my research about the SBIFF before it hits next year...
The pipedream continues.
by thebearovingian
Jan 25th, 2009
01:41:33 PM
May it never come to pass.
Marvel Comics vs. Disney
by Hikaru Ichijo
Jan 25th, 2009
02:07:30 PM
I've always enjoyed the look of those comics, and appreciated the measured tone when it came to the sex and violence, and Disney can't put something like that in theaters without ruin their family cred. This movie should have someone like a young Caroline Munroe running around in it, stirring up the prepubescent boys in the audience, and that's not going to happen with this company.
Read on IGN that they're going for a PG-13 on John Carter
by Pissed Off And Bitter
Jan 25th, 2009
02:07:36 PM
Never read the books but if Deja Thoris walks around like she does then PG-13 ain't gonna cut it. Looks more like an R rating at least.
DocP Billy Crudup is a good idea
by Xiphos_2
Jan 25th, 2009
02:30:30 PM
Do you think he would consider it after playing Dr. Bronx supernatural chiropracter in The Watchmen?
HUGH JACKMAN IS JOHN CARTER
by Chuck_Chuckwalla
Jan 25th, 2009
02:35:12 PM
Sorry, like global warming, the debate is over.
John Carpenter Of Mars?
by IAmMrMonkey!
Jan 25th, 2009
03:08:10 PM
Never heard of it but you have my interest AICN. I'm all up for seeing that crazy director guy battling martians.

Bring it, as they say, on.

Heh
by jdb1972
Jan 25th, 2009
03:23:02 PM
"he says he hates being preached to in movies and didn’t want anyone to think that’s what was happening with WALL-E" - Looks like he failed.
I like Jackman...
by DocPazuzu
Jan 25th, 2009
03:39:47 PM
...But he's got too much genre baggage. John Carter should be a star-making role, not a role for a star.

Crudup is a dead ringer for the John Carter as portrayed in the Michael Whelan paperback covers, he's physically in great shape, is not too well-known and has the acting ability. He's perfect for this.

DIORA BAIRD must be in John Carter!!!
by Kirbymanly
Jan 25th, 2009
03:55:46 PM
Although they'll probably go with someone like Jolie. :(
What? No Will Smith?
by Orionsangels
Jan 25th, 2009
03:56:02 PM
Classic roles portrayed by whites were made to be remade with a black actor like Will Smith.
Billy Crudup is a good choice too...
by Chuck_Chuckwalla
Jan 25th, 2009
04:24:48 PM
But Jackman looks like Frazetta who used himself as a model for his Barsoom paintings. If that's the case, then I could live without Jackman as JC and have him play Frazetta in a biopic. Now, that would be fucking awesome.
Dejah Thoris
by Toonol
Jan 25th, 2009
05:24:55 PM
Won't be topless. Geez, no way would that ever get filmed.

I'm assuming that all the women will get the metal bikini route, reminiscent of slave girl Princess Leia. They should look towards the Marvel Comics series, which is at most PG-13, for inspiration. Here is a sample of the comic artwork: http://tinyurl.com/cc82k2

I Have never read
by nukethefridge
Jan 25th, 2009
05:38:22 PM
John Carter. Where do I start? Thanks
This is a bummer...
by fassbinder79
Jan 25th, 2009
05:42:30 PM
They should have stuck to having it animated. I think doing it live action is a big mistake.
nukethefridge
by Chuck_Chuckwalla
Jan 25th, 2009
06:06:58 PM
Start with A Princess On Mars.
Hey Harry about Favreau and this movie
by DougMcKenzie
Jan 25th, 2009
06:09:50 PM
Do you think that if somehow Favreau would have been able to do both Iron Man and your version of JCOM, that you would have been successful? I imagine the studio would kill to have Favreau on this now after the ~600 mil BO on Iron Man. Too bad you had him after Zathura bombed.
I too would rather it be animated.
by eggart
Jan 25th, 2009
06:14:29 PM
There's a real lack of animated pulp fiction. But if it's live action, cast Kurt Russel as something please.
Dear Disney...
by Automaton Overlord
Jan 25th, 2009
06:54:18 PM
kaor Disney, please resist the urge to make Woola cute. calots are ugly! the end.
I just don't get WALL-E...
by jazzdownunder
Jan 25th, 2009
06:59:32 PM
Beyond being a demo reel for some neat animation of a very simple character, it is utterl empty. The story is rank nonesense and why in Gods name did nobody pick up Mr "Genius" Stanton on the fact that these gelatinous humans evolved (there is no-"de-evolved") over hundreds of years suffering critical bone density loss to explain their gelatinous condition, then step out at the end of the movie onto Earth normal gravity without collapsing into quivering blobs on the dirt? Why huge devices are needed to collect and bundle trash simply for it to be blown into space through an airlock. Why not just open the frikkin airlock to the trash store every once in a while. What happened to the other ships? How is humanity going to eek out survival living on a single type of plant (which is a....?). Assuming those humans were able to withstand the gravity on Earth, there is nothing in the story or in the execution of the plot to convince the audience that they would do anything other than demand that they turn around and go back to their blissful existence on the Axiom - we the audience see how pitiful that is, but nothing has shown THEM. All of that might have been forgiven if they had had the balls to make something of Wall-E's sacrifice, but no, they didn't even have the gumption to follow through on that and had to have Wall-E impossibly regain his memory. Maybe they were going for "the soul is not a physical part of us/him", but sadly they confused "soul" with "memory". Wall-E should have "woken up" and been his old, fun, animated, characterful self, going "beyond his programming" if you like, but without any memory of Eve etc. Really, I don't understand the butt love that this movie gets, or it's creator.
Script Girl's Big Break!
by zinc_chameleon
Jan 25th, 2009
07:14:38 PM
Maybe not Dejah Thoris, but definitely a Bosomian...oops...Barsoomian. She's a natural. But casting is going to be a problem, since Hollywood likes its girls too skinny. Katie Sackoff could do it, with some CGI.
jazzdownunder
by Clavius
Jan 25th, 2009
07:17:54 PM
Put away the textbook and get a soul.
Get 'yer John Carter he'yeeeaaahhh!
by malificus
Jan 25th, 2009
07:25:00 PM
Some John Carter stuff is available at www.gutenberg.org, merely do a Edgar Rice Burroughs search and a wealth of stuff comes up. If you need hard copy go to any used book store in the land and they'll have a huge selection if they are worth their salt. I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND the John Carter series to anyone who digs an action packed story of far away worlds and sword and sorcery. The John Carter books are amoung my favorite of all time, they deserve every bit of praise they get and you notice every big director/writer of sci fi always gives them props. Hope that gutenberg link doesn't get me in dutch, it's non-profit and should be supported. I read a lot of the classics there, a ton of Burroughs and some awesome H.G. Wells, free for the taking.
Jon Hamm is John Carter, assholes! You cannot deny...
by Leafar the Lost
Jan 25th, 2009
08:48:28 PM
...it, and Hugh Jackman costs too much. You can get Hamm cheap, he can act, and that's pretty much it.
Amen Clavius
by half vader
Jan 25th, 2009
08:54:47 PM
For a bunch of folks who pupport to love genre and fantastic cinema, literal-minded AICN goons like Jazz wouldn't know metaphor and analogy if it slapped them in the fucking face.

Really Jazz, hopefully you'll look back and be embarrassed. The "first steps" wobbling of the people at the end escaped you (with the toddlers in the same damn shot)? Really?! And in a movie that's already established that robots can fall in love (and like to play around the jets of a spaceship)? Ever heard of internal and emotional logic? Visual analogies? Do I need to bring up the AT-AT Empire example yet again? Jesus!

Topless?
by Dollar Bird
Jan 25th, 2009
09:25:17 PM
As I recall, everyone in the Barsoom books is nude all the time aside from jewelry and the "weapons harnesses." So, if y'all demand a topless Dejah Thoris because it's canon, then you'll also be seeing her coochie-la-la and John Carter's ding-ding. So all you dudes who balked at the pudendum in "Forgetting Sarah Marshall" better get ready to avert your eyes.

I liked "Wall-E" and "Nemo" so I have faith in Stanton. I think he can craft a good story. (Clearly some people here don't like fables and demand logic for every second of film. Those people must like non-fiction exclusively. Which is their right, but kind of sad.) Hopefully Stanton can gear the film up to the adventurous/fantastic tone it needs. Less whimsy and more thrills.

Man, I used to devour those books in 8th grade. My father and his father read ERB, so I inherited their motley collection of books. Old editions, Frazetta covers, a few odd paperbacks from Ace and Ballentine. Frazetta's images were always my favorite, but I'm curious to see how this film will look. I'm half-envisioning something with the gorgeous look of "Kingdom of Heaven" (though I hope it's nowhere near as boring and soul-less as that film).

Actually, sorry Jazz... & the future of stereo 3d
by half vader
Jan 25th, 2009
09:26:50 PM
I was a bit harsh Jazz, considering I should save the venom for Whiny Negative Bitches who can't see beyond their own myopia (geddit?). The problem with 3d is not the format itself. The problem is that everyone, even Zemeckis, keeps using the same old novelty approach rather than the unique cinematic language the technique requires. There are a couple of exceptions in bits of the Disney stuff, but unfortunately completely torpedoed by the films themselves being utter shite (haven't seen Bolt, even though it does sound like Buzz Lightyear remixed).

Stereo 3d makes cuts between long shots and closeups really disconcerting as the rapid jump in depth takes time to recover from and can be very distracting (and like after a big laugh, you need to take a beat or the next bit is lost). There's a lot more visual info for the brain to readjust to. So basically 3d needs to ironically incorporate more lateral than z-depth movement, soften the edits and lengthen the individual cuts. However it IS more immersive, the application for stop-motion is obvious, and even if the pace is slower you can do things in a single cut that would otherwise take multiple lenses and shots to achieve in 2d.

So yep it's going to take years to develop its own language (and that's where the whole B&W to Colour thing IS a good analogy) beyond ludicrous "comin' atcha" goofiness. But all this cutting-off-the-nose-to-spite- the-face fanboy garbage is just embarrassing.

All nude! All the time!
by half vader
Jan 25th, 2009
09:33:35 PM
They could just do the Rebecca Romijn trick and stick those scaley pasties over the bits couldn't they? What were all the X-Men films rated (someone stole mine - off a film set!) anyway? PG13 right?
Breasts on mars
by Toonol
Jan 25th, 2009
10:30:46 PM
Are actually kind of small, perky, if you go by the book. They were purely ornamental; martian women don't breastfeed, that's been genetically bred out of them. On the plus side, that means they don't sag, and since lifespans are up to a thousand years, that's very important.
Jeff Goldblum as Tars Tarkas!
by Uncle Stan
Jan 25th, 2009
10:38:31 PM
Jeff Wells reminds me of...
by Dasinfogod
Jan 26th, 2009
01:52:51 AM
...a puppy dog with a useless torn & slobbered towel who just won't let go of it and growls when it's taken away from him. I've long suspected he's a former fatty who got picked on alot as a kid (hence his puppy-like obsession with Axiom slobs in WALL-E). No matter how much Stanton tries to put this plot element to rest, Wells won't let up; doesn't surprise me to hear he was first at the SBIFF mic. It's sad to see an otherwise pretty good writer overcompensate with the "too hip for the room" 'tude, coming across as a bit of an aging blow-hard poseur.
So WALL-E was basically a confused mess to begin with...
by TheGhostWhoLurks
Jan 26th, 2009
01:59:13 AM
That ended up being a confused mess when it hit the big screen. That explains why the movie stunk and made me fall asleep in the theatre while watching it.

Humans as gelatinous green blobs??? And excuse me for missing the "peach fuzz"... a little TOO subtle, I guess. Next time, I'll just rent THE LORAX. At least that was entertaining and had a coherent message.

A Disney nudie!
by CuervoJones
Jan 26th, 2009
03:09:42 AM
Amazing!
Speaking as a huge John Carter nerd...
by DocPazuzu
Jan 26th, 2009
04:55:59 AM
...and someone who loved what PJ did with LOTR, I think a John Carter movie, no matter how "gritty" or "fanciful" they decide make it, should be played completely straight. There's not an ounce of tongue-in-cheek or post-modernism in the original stories and that's what makes them work. As soon as you stop and start reflecting on what's going on ("Hey, what's with the S&M gear? And the big green dudes? And swords? WTF?") the stories cease to function properly. If you're thinking of entering the world of Barsoom, you either go all the way or just stay home. None of that winking at the reader/viewer bullshit.

This also goes for Conan, but that's another matter.

DocPazuzu
by malificus
Jan 26th, 2009
07:56:56 AM
Speaking briefly of Conan, have you checked out the Savage Sword of Conan collections that Dark Horse are putting out? 500 pages of awesomeness, always a luke-warm Conan guy myself, dug Barry Smith's lighter thief, but man-o-man am I a convert of the Roy Thomas/ John Buscema Savage's, unbelievably great stuff.
Wow Whiny, read it again, moron.
by half vader
Jan 26th, 2009
08:25:41 AM
I haven't seen Bolt you fool. And I wasn't defending Zemeckis or Beowulf, twit. Or do you treat other posts with the same myopia as everything else? Obviously judging by your embarrassing start there you just skim and let the mud fly. Good luck with that in your life to come mate!
malificus
by DocPazuzu
Jan 26th, 2009
08:36:34 AM
Yep, I used to read Savage Sword when I was a kid and have been meaning to buy the collected editions. As much as I like the old Marvel stuff, I'm even more impressed with the new Dark Horse Conan comics, which are amazing.

I don't hold out much hope for Ratner's new movie.

You're too funny, Bitch.
by half vader
Jan 26th, 2009
12:01:24 PM
"Tries to defend"?! Sorry mate, but because it keeps whizzing by you I'll say it again. Just because they're making shite now in 3d that's nothing more than it was in the fifties doesn't mean the technique itself is inherently shit and that filmmakers won't take advantage of the tech for legitimate storytelling reasons. I'm NOT defending the stereo stuff that's around at the moment. I AM saying it's not the 3d itself that's the problem. You're the tail wagging the fucking dog with your line of argument that because it's been/being used badly it should never be used again. And the dude whose mouth you're conveniently shovelling words into is not me.

On that note, if you're not addressing me then don't fucking begin your post replying to/arguing with a statement I'd made ("The problem with 3d") and then halfway through reiterate "then again, I'm addressing Half Vader", you grammatically-challenged little man. "Depth and deep analogies" eh? You obviously learned to write from Harry, who shares the wisdom he wishes to share (I'm paraphrasing). Then again, you did make the all-encompassing statement "big = awesome" and follows the cooler-than-thou "Pixar sucks" kneejerk mantra/philosophy so... Funnier still is when you try to argue semantics when it comes to "immersive" and then back it up with the four-year-old literalism you displayed earlier

It's also hilarious that all your shilling for IMAX conflicts neatly with them being the biggest producer of stereo 3d SINCE the fifties. But I'd better stop now, because I can't compete with a mind that can summon the almighty insult "retard". That, and the uneasy feeling I may be feeding the former Animal Structure or whatever the thing's name was. Bye.

John Carter will never get made...
by Kid Z
Jan 26th, 2009
06:07:48 PM
... it just won't. Too obscure a property for any studio to risk money on it. Well, actually, I take that back, it 'might' get made... with Will Smith in the lead... and who the f**k wants that?!!?
John Carter will definitely get made...
by Orbots Commander
Jan 26th, 2009
06:37:17 PM
...if it's retitled John Carter vs. Paul Blart. Because apparently, the public loooooves them some fat mall cop. Maybe, Paul Blart: Mall Cop of Mars.
Matthew MCConaghy as John Carter
by mojoman69
Jan 26th, 2009
06:56:50 PM
He has the build, he has a Southern accent and he is the right age. Megan Fox as Dejah Thoris! Andy Serkis voicing Tars Tarkis.
I'd be a lot more excited about John Carter if...
by SnootyBoots
Jan 26th, 2009
07:01:07 PM
they'd use the title of the book it's based on, A Princess Of Mars. Being afraid to put the word "Princess" in the title betrays a lack of balls and makes me wonder what other compromises they'll make in adapting that book to the screen
To save money
by Toonol
Jan 26th, 2009
09:27:01 PM
The should go the Pirates/LOTR route but even more so: Film all eleven books at once, and parcel them out over the next two decades. What a goldmine!
The problem with WALL-E is...
by jazzdownunder
Jan 27th, 2009
08:21:38 PM
...not that it has problems with internal logic and consistency but that those things matter because it has nothing of substance to justify the conceits and literary licenses it takes. If the bone density issue is a non-issue, then why the heck bring it up? It just confuses things. It reeks of left over subplot material (unless you want to suggest that it's there to explain the appearance of the humans... why? And when we look at the fact that NASA are thrown at us as a consultant on the story then we'd have to assume that the story writers were going for gritty realism in their story points, not creative interpretation and whimsical allegory). All kids know that if you are bone-idle lazy you get fat. Nothing more needed to be said. I love Toy Story and Toy Story 2 even though I actually know that toys don't come alive when everyone leaves the room. I love Bugs Life even though I know that Flea Circuses aren't actually miniature circuses run by honest to goodness fleas. But in those cases I don't care. In Wall-E, I noticed the inconsistencies - they aren't the problem in themselves, it's the fact that they matter that is indicative of deeper problems. But don't ask me, ask my kids. Again, they love Pixar movies as a whole, but they love the stories told in those movies more than the characters for their own animation sake. Not so with Wall-E. Sure, they loved the "cute robots" but as a movie "it's kind of OK, but it doesn't really make sense Dad - I thought they couldn't go back to Earth because they didn't have any bones anymore? And they wont be happy on Earth, I think they'd be cross that they can't live on the spaceship anymore cos they had it much easier there - Earths not a nice place for them". Not MY words, but the words of 8 and 11 year olds.
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