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Hercules Truthfully Doesn’t Get That Much Out Of LIE TO ME!!

Doesn't look like it's worth the memory on my DVR by TheBostonStrangler	Jan 21st, 2009 02:51:49 PM

does this mean we get by j2talk	Jan 21st, 2009 02:54:23 PM
does this mean we get a TV crime procedural That DOENT feature a murder EVERY week...memo to CSI it doesnt always have to be a murder to keep people interested.....
I liked this the first time I saw it... by Drebin	Jan 21st, 2009 02:56:59 PM
...when it was called "Monk" or "Psych" or "The Mentalist."
Prison break good? by j2talk	Jan 21st, 2009 02:57:18 PM
now I've heard everything......
first episode by chaoslover01	Jan 21st, 2009 03:12:23 PM
is often not the best. actors are still getting into the skins of their characters, and writers are still working out the quirks. I'll give it three eps to see if there is any improvement, and then decide. I really like Roth, so I have to give it that much of a shot.
Tim fuckin' Roth by johnnyangel	Jan 21st, 2009 03:13:54 PM
Gotta at least give it a chance.
That's what Psych is about? by Bass Ackwards	Jan 21st, 2009 03:29:06 PM
I haven't seen the show (not a knock, just never got around to it), but I always thought it was about a guy who was pretending to be psychic?
From the people who brought you Lie To Me comes... by tangcameo	Jan 21st, 2009 03:36:27 PM
Superglue Fingerprint Unit. Follow the shocking puzzling adventures of that guy in the lab who finds latent prints on objects using a light bulb, a cupcake tin and Crazy Glue (and who somehow happens to be a fully qualified cop on the side too). And watch as he struggles with his superglue huffing addiction which he tries to kick even as it helps him solves strange weekly crimes. Starring some Brit actor from some 80s comedy or cult classic (Lister from Red Dwarf, Rowan Atkinson, one of The Goodies, the last surviving castmember of Are You Being Served?) with his amazing generic American (possibly Canadian) accent. Tuesdays at 8pm. Be There!
Joe the Plumber? by Toonol	Jan 21st, 2009 03:47:49 PM
The amount of hate that guy receives from whackjobs is really over the top.
so, meh? by oisin5199	Jan 21st, 2009 05:34:52 PM
I'll try it out for no other reason than Tim Roth. Have Gary Oldman guest star and have them ask each other questions the whole time. It will be hilarious. Point and match! Anyhoo, the only reason for me to watch a procedural is the characters. Works for Bones and Mentalist - don't know about this one. Oh, and Joe the Plumber IS a whackjob, so he deserves all the hate he gets. Nothing but a puppet of the right looking for his 15 minutes. Oh yeah, and he's a complete and utter imbecile.
I'm waiting for Joe the Plumber... by tangcameo	Jan 21st, 2009 05:57:22 PM
...to end up in a job he actually has credentials or a business licence for. And the heck did we start talking about Joe The Plumber?
Low blow as Prison Break uncalled for by nalapou	Jan 21st, 2009 06:42:29 PM
Only show you and I don't see eye-to-eye on Herc.
Depiction of JWs by heks	Jan 21st, 2009 07:14:12 PM
I'm kinda interested in people's take on the depiction of Jehovah's Witnesses in this episode. I consider it to be one of the most unrealistic and inaccurate portrayals I've ever seen captured on film. It seems to me the writers didn't even bother talking to a JW to get a grasp on their most basic beliefs so that they could at least write dialog that sounds like it might come from a JW rather than, say, a Pentacostal. Thoughts?
TV doesn't deserve Tim Roth by pollaxt	Jan 21st, 2009 08:37:33 PM
Neither does this mediocre show. Just watch "The Mentalist," it's superior in every way.
The Mentalist by medicinaluser	Jan 21st, 2009 10:39:20 PM
Love the show but people need to see it for what it is and stop comparing it to Psych, and that is what if Derren Brown started to use his skills to help the Police out.....that show is what you would get. The other thing is Bruno H who created the show has even gone as far as to use some of the larger tricks used in Derren's tv series and almost in the same order, hes being that blatant and as for Patrick Jane larger parts of the little quirks and personality come directly from the way Derren is in his live shows and to a lesser extent on Tv. Am I the only one who has spotted this? As for Lie To Me it was actually supposed to be aired before The Mentalist came out but really with that show as big as it is most will feel LTM a cheap knockoff, which it does sorta feel like.
The Evidence Was ABC Not Fox by SMARTASS8	Jan 21st, 2009 11:37:42 PM
I also thought that show had a cool premise(you'd see the evidence at the beginning of the show and could guess as to where they fit into the case) and got a lot better after a rough start. I'd take that show over Life On Mars or any of the somehow popular CSI's.
Better than Prison Break pilot???? by Trim Master	Jan 22nd, 2009 12:31:08 AM
Fuck you Herc. What do you know??? You thought The Inside was a good show. Go suck Whedon's dick. What are the chances you don't call Dollhouse the best new show of 2009???? You suck!
I liked it. by CoursinLarry	Jan 22nd, 2009 12:58:45 AM
And I think it'll play well. It's the type of thing that dumb people will think is very smart, making them think they are very smart for 'getting it'.
I enjoyed it as well by OfficerJunior	Jan 22nd, 2009 04:21:24 AM
Tim Roth, man, come on. I thought this show worked. It won't change anyones religion and it's certainly not groundbreaking, but the premise wasn't distractingly bad. I'm not sure if they can drag it out a full season, how many tells are there? Sure these murder of the week shows are a dime a dozen, but I don't watch every CSI: St.Paul type show in prime time. Anyway, props to fox, this is their one in fifty pilot that may make it a full season.
heks, there was a quick mention of how the father by Big Jim	Jan 22nd, 2009 09:08:29 AM
was viewed by his church as an extremist and they didn't agree with his views. I think JW is one religion that you can still make "the villain" of on TV without raising too much ire. Really, the family could have been extremist/isolationist of any religion or sect. JW was just the plug-in name so as not to offend anyone who might think it was their religion that was being vilified. I liked The Evidence when it got away from its hook. There were times "the evidence" had nothing to do with the crime, just a red herring. So, as you watch the show and see the item, you think "he must be the killer" when it's just some item some random dude remotely connected to the case happened to be holding.
Big Jim by heks	Jan 22nd, 2009 09:17:43 AM
I agree that JWs were a plug-in name here. The problem is that extremism doesn't explain the inaccuracies in the show. An extremist JW would act and speak like an extremist JW not, for example, an extremist Pentacostal or other kind of Charismatic Christian. The dialog in the episode reflects certain beliefs and in every single case the reflected beliefs are not held by JWs. In other words, yes, they could have been extremists/isolationists of almost ANY religion ... but ironically it would be of almost any religion EXCEPT JWs.
I liked it a lot.. I mean come on Tim Roth! by allykatD	Jan 22nd, 2009 11:27:22 AM
I enjoyed "Lie to Me" very much. It reminds me a bit of the novel "The Ambler Warning" by Robert Ludlum. Tim Roth is awesome. I know there are a lot of comparisons to The Mentalist but could someone PLEASE tell me (and I'm not being flippant) why people like the Mentalist so much? I've been watching it, and yes, it's entertaining and Simon Baker is good but it has no substance. Patrick Jane has an interesting background, but it's rarely touched on and could be used to heighten the drama. The drama is very lit and very unsubstantial. Even when Lisbon was in danger the other night from a killer cop, you never felt she was in danger of really getting hurt. I'm getting way more drama from "Lie to Me" in one episode than I have in all the episodes of "The Mentalist" combined.
Psych and Monk by Gislef_crow	Jan 22nd, 2009 01:14:33 PM
Psych is a guy who is a great detective who couldn't/wouldn't join the force or get recognized for his talent, so he pretends to be a psychic while using his detective skills. Neither he nor Monk are "intuitionists" (unless you consider Sherlock Holmes an "intuitionist"). I'm not sure I'd describe Monk as "cuddly" as one critic does, either. He's kind of a dick, if you watched last week's episode where he horribly takes advantage of his guilty assistant, the ever-whiny Natalie. ("Mr. Mooonnnkkkk...!")
The pilot to prison break was good... by turketron	Jan 22nd, 2009 02:22:34 PM
wtf? couldn't give less than a shit about this show though... and it's on ... ahaha opposite...ahahaaaha... of ... LOST...BAWWW. GAME OVER.
okay, but pretty dry, really by chromedome	Jan 23rd, 2009 11:41:52 AM
All the close-up replays of micro-expressions will get old real fast. Dialog was sort of emotionless and mechanically fast. Hope they plan some real and interesting character development, because the gimmick will not carry this show far.... I was getting bored by the end...
LOL, "Variety"... by viola123	Jan 25th, 2009 12:30:33 PM
Good snippet, Hercules. And helpful review from you too. Thanks. I wasn't thrilled when I saw Tim Roth in the commercials for "Lie to Me." Disappointed was more like it, but I too was pleased he was able to keep his accent. Now, when I found out the premise for this series, I felt it was good for I don't know, two shows? How old is this going to get by next week? It sounds like it started to wear thin in the Pilot. How sad for Tim Roth. But my gosh, it seems every British actor is going to get his own series before too long. I know how the Brits regard television and so long as it's of good quality, there are no barriers to doing TV. HOWEVER, we know not all American TV series are winners and to see them drop in Brit actors like it's going to somehow transform them, I think it does a disservice to the actor. To make him believe that he's doing the next "House" or to a lesser degree, "Life." And then to find out Tim Roth turned down a role in a Tarantino film? Bringing it back to "Reservoir Dogs"? Ack!! I won't lie to you: I'm stunned.

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