Let's not drown ourselves in hype, shall we?

The producers see an opportunity for an intensely graphic action-drama series, described as 'Gladiator' meets 'Deadwood', with the first draft of the script essentially NC-17 in terms of sex and violence that had to be toned down just a bit.

"Much like ‘300,’ there will be a visual beauty to the way it is shot. There’s an ode to violence ... there are decapitations, people being split in half ... we don’t want to shy away form violence or sexuality. The beauty of being on premium cable is there is no story we can’t tell" says DeKnight.

The 100% green-screen production will cover the same ground as Stanley Kubrick's 1960 film take on the property, plus have additional characters and story lines.

My eyeballs will remain un-fucked thanks.

I smell a guilty pleasure... for about two or three episodes.

again, not my intent, just want more than what I'm getting to be excited about the project. If someone can point me in the direction of something worth looking at from this movie please don't hesitate. Cheers.

18. So? I'm in a miserable nonsexual relationship. I've earned the right.

I actually am genuinely curious as to WHY we should be so amped for this. Someone convince me, for real.

Anyways, what's the deal with this flick? I don't understand the hype. I follow this site just like everybody else, but I feel like I missed a few dozen posts in which it's explained why I should care about this movie, much less get my eyeballs poked out by a cinematic Cameron wiener.

I'm the only person too good for me.

pros:

aliens

t1

t2

cameron's history of technical achievement

cons

motion capture (it bugs the hell out of me)

titanic was way melodramatic and over the top, but the world cameron created was pretty amazing.

well, let's just say that I just do. Don't worry, you'll know too this December! And lastly, you're wrong about one critical thing: I don't give two shits if D.G.D.B likes, is indifferent, loves, or hates AVATAR. I'm just saying he's going to look stupid this December.

But, maluquiro... I think, well know that The Guru himself - James Cameron - is gonna surpass everything he's done in the past - now that is saying something. He even said a few months back that AVATAR is the most rewarding and most challenging film he's ever done.

Only 344 days left

Or 11 months and 7 days

Or 8,184 hours

Or 491,037 minutes

Who'd be a fanboy, eh?

p.s. If AVATAR isn't released here in England on the same day as America, well... it looks like I'm coming to America!! Mind you, I'm thinking about going to New York next Christmas anyway.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v= fprW3HxdMAY

Yawn that.

Its shit like that, that breeds the so-called "Haters." This shit has become a fucking joke. There is nothing more ignorant than blind worship.

You're a decent guy. And I understand you're just trying to counter my negativity. But come on.

"BABIES SMELL!!"

As for my opinion, I think its going to be a great adventure sci-fi movie and be wonderfull to look at, but I think the Enviromental message is going to grate on alot of people. Even Cameron said something like he doesn't know if the stories any good or not.

But that gun gets my pre-cum just oozing out

Not that is matters what the plot is.

It'll end up an overhyped letdown, anyway

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Stupidest statement ever on AICN. (Well, outside of a Watchmen talkbalk anyway.) How in the hell were you able to type that with a straight face? It's got fucking Paul Reiser in it, thereby disqualifying Aliens from being the best anything.

Question, why should I believe that my eyeballs will molested in 2009? Because a bunch of nerds hope it will be so, and they have the perfect echo chamber at AICN to try and convince each other that might happen?

it's cameron. it's sci-fi. in a post matrix and LOTR era. if you can't get hyped up at that notion, you're just clueless relly. nothing in the movie world today can get any bigger than cameron's return.

you just CANNOT FUCKING WAIT, can you? your movie watching experience will be that much more enjoyable without seeing bits and pieces of it taken out of context in the trailers, i guarantee you.

aliens is much more original in its use of the concept. there's a reason it's one of the most imitated movie.

And the thing with Scarecrow, yeah fair enough to a degree, but your version doesn't work either because that's not the point of the scene. Let's just agree Scarecrow was a self-indulgent and redundant inclusion.

lucas was showing signs of mediocrity with the indy chronicle and the tampering of the original stawars. cameron has the hindsight of seeing lucas coming back from his hibernation to make 3 spectacularly crappy movies, and then seeing how LOTR changed the game.

how about the sound of the M41A pulse rifles and the smart gun ripping apart the elephant screaming aliens,

how about the some of the shots of the aliens themselves, in the ceiling, rising out the water behind Newt, the Queens "throne room", following them down the corridor to the elevator

the end battle with bishop getting ripped apart, the queen chasing Newt and then the loader

I know its far from a perfect movie, I love Kubrick, Kurosawa, fellini blah blah blah movies, but for me them things have stayed with me ever since I watched the movie when I was about 7. Surely you guys have some such film to?

for pete's sake, people! just wait until you see how cameron makes it all cool before condemning the story, will you? it's all the in HOW, anyway.

Not only does ALIENS hold up, it is one of the most effective and infinitely rewatchable action movies ever made. To call it a "dumbed down machismo military shoot 'em up" completely misses the simplest point made in the film = the overconfident macho military jingoistic types get their asses kicked. Hard.

As for asking oneself what's memorable about it, I suggest you read CharyouTree's post for starters and then try getting your bullish head out of your ass. Anyone who says with a straight face that ALIENS has "nothing memorable" is either lying or trolling for kicks.

So thanks for proving my point. Now fuck off so I can go to sleep.

in aliens, she was a warrior. she drove the tank into an ambush to save the marines. she was a natural leader there. and she showed love and determination when newt was taken, going alone into the hive, and facing the queen. this is what makes ripley one of the most memorable character in the genre. the ripley in the first film barely registers. it's the alien that's the main interest there.

Ain't that right, Gus Van Rant?

the point with 3D is to blur the fourth wall. it's to draw you IN to the world. what cameron doing is not just to have things coming out at you from the movie screens(which he said as much), it's to engulf you with the surroundings he created.

like i said, all techs are just gimmicks in the hands of hacks. it can be an art in the hands of artists.

true lies got no mention because it's not his most popular film. but his weaker film are still GREAT. it still bests any summer films made by any bay or sommers or whatever. plus, it's genuiely funny. how many actions directors can do comedy this well?

Have you seen the Director's Cut with the opening with Newt's family in the car driving around? Uhhhh yeah. Thats not the work of a competent director. Thats the work of a talentless fuck that has no idea how the fuck to handle quiet, family moments and wants to hurry the fuck up and start blowing shit up. In all fairness it is a cut scene from the theatrical cut, because Cameron probably realized in the editing room the only thing people want to see are these Marine assholes blowing shit up. And speaking of the Marine assholes....come the fuck on. They are the most cliched corny ass group ever put together. You seriously find those one-liners entertaining? I want to kick Paxton in the fucking mouth after 30 seconds. Corny as shit.

There is nothing memorable about a single character in Aliens except maybe the hammy corniness of Reiser and the "Hey little girl, I used to have a daughter....you look lonely, wanna be my daughter?! Oh here Michael Biehn come stand next to me, like we're all one big happy family!!" Great fucking writing. Give me a break. Its like Cameron is a fucking alien from another planet reading historical accounts of what human emotion used to be like and this is the best he could come up with.

Stan Winston's work as always is aces. Like I said before, were it not for him-- this movie would have been fucked. Every iconic image everyone remembers is thanks to Stan Winston.

Okay now True Lies = fucking sucks. Much like Aliens, it may have been entertaining back in the day but it is shit now. I'm glad your only defense is "It has some of the biggest scale action scenes in movie history!" Uhhhhh okay. Now according to the James Cameron/Michael Bay school of film, that automatically makes it good right? Cause there is a shit load of explosions and the hermaphrodite chick hangs out of a helicopter while a limo falls off a bridge? Okay. Fine. If that makes it an amazing film in your eyes, so be it. I'm glad some people are entertained by this dumb shit.

I wonder if it will, or am I going to be disappointed like Leela in 'Futurama'? Time will tell, I guess...

you can pick apart ANY genre movies and find something silly in it. it's what the genre dictates. but cameron always elevate the materials into something cool and smart. his movies are anything but dumb.

And I actually enjoy The Abyss. Its sorta Cameron's Dances With Wolves in that its boring as fuck, but still a fine film.

but if you mean BEFORE titanic, let me ask you this: do you trust studios who greenlit shits like the happening, and tons of sandlers movies and disaster movies, or the man who created some of the coolest movies ever made?

just because it's not greenlit, says more about the mentality of hollywood(new stuff is risky, sandler is funny) than it does cameron.

An analogy that illustrates how incredibly good James Cameron is at what he does: THE TERMINATOR and TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY are both Sci-Fi classics. Both Action classics. Both possibly just classics period. TERMINATOR 3: RISE OF THE MACHINES........... a completely forgettable movie made by a capable but non-visionary director.

I really hope I have a full 12 months of you talking shit about AVATAR.........

DIE HARD is smart as hell. LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD is dumb. How can you not see the difference? An action movie can be smart without being SOLARIS or IKIRU.

all the haters and pesimists have going is "it will suck because look at indy4 and prequels." or "no trailers, must be suck!" see the difference? :)

http://www.latinoreview.com/ne ws/terminator-salvation-20min- preview-first-look-at-more-con cept-art-5972

so why should avatar be any different now? like i said, the man has never given us a reason to doubt. just wait till you see the movie before you badmouth it, will you?

Welcome back, Jim! Seriously, I can't wait to see a brand new, groundbreaking James Cameron sci-fi action flick!

That is the most moronic uber-hippyish nonsense I've ever read.

Titanic is a steaming load of wank from start to finish.

That is all.

Oh, you need more, hows this? It stars Chris Sarandon, Ava Gardner, Christopher Walken, Tom Berenger, Jeff Goldblum, The Milf from National Lampoons Vacation as a teenage sexed-crazed demonic lesbian and Burgess Meredith as Satan. Your thinkin, well Fuck me again, sounds fantastic right?????

No. It's one ofthe worst pieces of shit I have ever witnessed. The only detail I will reveal as it is now forever burned into my retinas and comes for me at night in my very worst dreams is this....Beverly D'Angelo masterbating feverishly in a leotard is now officially the scariest thing I have ever seen. Peace Out.

All that said,for some wierd ass reason It's Alien3 I watch the most. It's got a whole lotta problems but fuck me if it isn't one of the most beautiful looking films ever.

Yes, just a few of the opinions DICKBLOOD has of Aliens. Another favorite is "Aliens is the worst of the series". This is also the guy who has said:

1) You've Got Mail is a great movie.

2) Family Man is a great movie.

3) Phantom Menace is better than A New Hope.

4) Big Trouble in Little China is "the only good movie" John Carpenter ever made.

Whether Avatar ends up being any good or not will make no difference to DICKBLOOD. If DICKBLOOD had been anything other than a drunk and a troll I'd have hoped Avatar would be great simply to watch him slink away like moviemack did after Batman Begins opened. However, since he's only interested in the sound of his own voice (and the taste of his own semen, apparently) he'll keep on braying about something else just to stir shit up.

Fuck yeah. Better movie, you bet.

I assume it's based on the cartoon, AVATAR THE HAIR BENDER, which my son enjoys so much.

Has this James Cameroon made other films Frank Jnr would like? He especially likes robots.

I'm a total lefty, but even I have to acknowledge that the whole "save the planet" thing is getting kinda old...

Is it important that I complain about the age of the story posted by Mr Knowles, etc.? That seems extraordinarily trivial and an odd way for a person to spend their time, but I want to fit in here, so any guidance would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Disgusting!

I don't know this Brett Ratner person. Did he make this 'Alien' film everyone seems to like so much?

Comparing James Cameron to Michael Bay clearly shows that you have no fucking clue about filmmaking, especially when it comes down to shooting and editing action sequences.

So please, shut the fuck up. Thanks.

Like I said, I want to fit in here. I'm not sure about the guy who was complaining about the editing, though. I think that guy might be nuts or something. I don't want to fit in with that guy.

i mean, talk about genius marketing: running a tight-lipped machine for like 5 years on a movie and letting useless little images show up towards the end of production. there's still no trailer for fuck's sake!!!

i'm tired of this blow job. it's time for some fucking penetration...

Anyone who read Cameron's script treatment for this film when it was posted (you didn't Dickblood or you wouldn't have said "sounds") knows the potential that this film has and that the story is as taut and driven as anything that Cameron has written, in fact the visuals that it conjured up were so complex that it couldn't be filmed- and do the script justice- until now.

You are what you claim to be railing against- in your case a guy who automatically hates what Cameron is doing without having seen or read one iota of it. The words Egg Face On and Twat will apply when this is released in December: I don't expect it to be the second coming but I do expect to completely enjoy it, Cameron does not know how to make a bad film.

It's good that your words on this film are in the public domain because then you won't be able to deny what a mean spirited idiot you were.And about as wrong as anyone can be.

Don't know what your day job is but I would advise not giving it up to try your arm at any sort of in depth (or surface, for that matter) film analysis.

I'm sure that that could also be said for Citizen Kane, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, Red River,A Touch of Evil, etc, etc...does that mean that those films are not classics also? Would it mean- if the directors of those films were still alive- that we wouldn't look forward to a new film from them?

As I said before, don't abandon your day job for any sort of work in film critcism or analysis.

Speaking of which, I can't think of a GOOD third sequel to any movie:

The fourth STAR WARS movie was PHANTOM MENACE. (yikes!)

The fourth ALIEN movie was AVP.

We also had POLICE ACADEMY 4, SAW IV, JAWS REVENGE, THE NEXT KARATE KID, etc. etc.

Doesn't look too good for TERMINATOR 4...

RAMBO 4 on the other hand fucking rocked.

You haven't a frakkin clue what Cameron is attempting here have you, why he has waited so long to even try to make this film?And yet you pontificate on its awfulness; not one frame has been seen- by you or me- but this is going to bomb and has nothing going for it but a little 3-D gimmick, according to your vast, accumulated film knowledge (you would probably have been saying the same about the effects applied to T2 if you had of been around then)

So your belief that this film will suck- both artistically and at the box office- is based on what?. Nothing,it seems, apart from some sort of bitter petty jealousy/hatred type deal that probably needs psychiatric help of some sort.

What am I basing my belief on that I will enjoy this film and that it will- probably- be box office gold(there are no guarantees, The Abyss was stunning but still fell into The Moneytary Abyss)?. Track record, pure and simple: Cameron hasn't made a film that I didn't enjoy (yes, including Titanic: I know love stories aren't everybody's cup of tea but it was a Well Made love story, technically stunning if nothing else) and some are downright classics.In other words, I am basing my belief on the success of this film on information and, you, DickBloodTwat are basing yours on a lack of information: see previous about day job/film criticism.

It "was" the perfect set up.It was all to do with continuity to Batman Begins and of course the Scarecrow, being an immediately recognisable character from that film, was the perfect bridge into TDK:it showed that The Batman was still dealing with the criminals who had got loose from Arkham and that time had advanced. It also answered the question about The Batman just allowing the Scarecrow to run around Gotham. TDK was about the Joker and more importantly about Dent and not about the Scarecrow. The Nolan's, however, used Scarecrow as a brilliant script device, to join the seams between the two films. Scarecrow was not wasted as a character- his story is done for now- but used very smartly as a connective Icon.

What has that got to do with anything. Did he make those scripts into a film?. No, so you're talking about some hypothetical. I really wanted Cameron to make Spider-Man but am also totally glad that Rami got the gig (first two anyhow, not so much the third) but the point is that I'll never know what Cameron might have done and neither will you. Let's talk about what he has done and what he is doing. Like I said to DickWhatever, I'm basing what I expect Avatar to deliver on track record, on information, not on the lack of it.

Do not debate me on this.

Keep up the good work, LaserPants.

Good work, Leprechaun 4.

Children of Men had one action sequence that's up with T2 the other action sequences are nowhere near.

Outside of action, it is better than the hokeyness of T2

Every time she says that, God shoots a puppy.

That is a gleaming the cube moment right there. Gleaming the goofyness cube.

INdy 4 included Aliens, which was a step in the right direction, but still kept it on earth. Ergo, fail.

Also, as someone pointed out, it's a corny LOOKING movie - it looks like Beverly Hills Cop II. Just very 80s in the worst way.

I think I still have some of it up my nostrils.

Anyway, you think hostel is highly intelligent satire, and not moronic LCD torture porn dreck.

You are, therefore, wrong.

QED and whatnot.

What are we, idiots?

And you know he's going to rape your still warm corpse.

Hey, this game is fun.

The action sequence in Mad Max 3 (there's only one that can be named as such) is horrible, especially when compared to 1 and 2.

Kill Bill fucking sucked from start to finish and had absolutely NO comparable action sequence.

Blade Runner is a brilliant movie - but has next to none big fights and chases whatsoever.

Seven Samurai = brilliant movie, but no comparable action sequence.

You wildly mix modern day action cinema with martial arts cinema and other stuff that can't be compared, you fucking monkey. Now, please, shut the hell up and return to your basement, you blockheaded, 8-year-old monkey. Thanks.

Anyway, back to hostel- I swear you must have seen a different film to me, because I saw a moronic piece of LCD torture porn dreck and you saw something with well done social commentary. You're imagining things.

SPeed Racer: as much fun as being force fed candle wax until you vomit in technicolour.

That one may be a little on the nose.

Anyway my point is, those two movies then 50 years off or whatever don't bode well.

Aliens may look cliched now, but at the time there was hardly no other movies like it

Seriously DG_DB I'm starting to think Seth Rogen may have been right, are you sure your not some little 13 year old asian geek, you defend Bad Boys 2 and shit on Aliens?

The only excuse for that is you are under 15 or Cameron actually came to your home and IRON JIMMED all your family right up the ass, much like he did with Laser when T2 was released.

Getting slapped around by a fat guy covered in flourescent paint and paying for the privelege.

Actually, that doesn't sound half bad,

Some people don't like Terminator 2?

What's that about?

Seriously, everyone else has fucked off.

He he. Flumps. I'm sorry if the American Ain't It Cool crowd never had flumps.

Yum.

And I stand by the fact that the name JAMES CAMERON means jack shit to most people. Ask family or friends who are casual film viewers, who James Cameron is and they'll give you a blank stare. That's what I'm talking about. I'm not arguing his place in history. Obviously he will be remembered for a long time on account of his technical achievements. I was specifically referring to marketing his name.

I agree about Ace Of Wands, though. That guy definitely has a thing for you.

And you're still throwing around You've Got Mail, Big Trouble In Little China, and Phantom Menace? Pathetic. As if I get a fuck. What, you think this is ruining my credibility? What credibility? I'm a random cunt like the rest of you that wastes my whole fucking day on an internet movie forum talking shit. I can give a fuck what you or anyone else here thinks of me or my opinions. I said You've Got Mail is one of my favorite romantic comedies. And it is. Its quirky, cute, funny, Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan make a great team-- who fucking cares? I'm not part of that DocP "I have to convince people what a man I am by jerking off to James Cameron movies" crew. I normally don't like shit where the machismo is shoved down my throat. I have a dick, it functions just fine. Movies with lots of explosions doesn't make it any bigger and I accept that.

And TPM over ANH. Yup. I enjoy it more. The Pod Race and the Maul fight are fucking epic. But my #1 SW film will always be Empire. BTILC is Carpenter's ONLY truly great film. Though I haven't seen The Thing, and that does look pretty good. But I've seen almost everything else he has done. I'm not saying I don't enjoy the others. I enjoy the hell out of Escape From New York, but I can admit its pretty much shit.

There ya go.....a little clarification on my thoughts. Be sure to include those details the next time you quote me. I'm sure you'll keep doing this for the next 5 years. Even after I'm long gone, you will be one of the few douche bags that will name drop me on a regular basis in between swallowing mouthfuls of MNG's semen.

Thanks for the support. Fucking loser.

Why the fuck should most people give a fuck who directed the most successful film of all time? I don't get it. Thats like saying "If you don't know the Publishing company with the most book-sales in 2008, you're fucking ignorant." Who fucking cares?

Nowadys, though Carpenter is fat and lazy.

Seriously, watch it right away, mate.

Please see Ghosts of Mars as an example.

Fat bastard.

That movie is shit no matter who is in it. Remember all the pointless slomo? And that Carpenter original score? Fuck me!! Why would you use Blues riffs on Mars?!!

If I was raking in that sweet, sweet remake money like he is, I would probably loaf about my house and do weed, X-Box and fried chicken all day, too.

You didn't say BTILC is Carpenter's only GREAT film, you said it was his only GOOD film. Nice try.

Oh, I will continue to quote you whenever you rear your pointy, feces-encrusted dome and proceed to dilate that sphincterine maw of yours, spewing your usual unending torrents of inanities and attention-whoring bleats.

No amount of "grow up" or "get a life" posts will discourage me from doing so. Welcome to the rest of your stay on AICN, chief.

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fool.

Shit, I fell off my chair again.

I would not feed him until he had learned all of Jack Burton's lines!

I demand to be entertained by my imaginary children!

I kill me.

I prefer my hulks to be French these days.

Fucking loser.

And it's okay if you're all outta gum.

Plus, we don't want to have to administer any flaming leg kicks, do we?

Viva la Porkchop Express!

And as much as I think The Thing is a perfect sci-fi horror movie only slightly bested by Alien, for me Carpenter's best work will always be Starman. Who isn't turned into a blubbering child when Bridges walks to his ship as that amazing score soars?

Man, what films HAS he done besides Bluestreak, Black Knight, and that basketabll one from a few years ago??

That's one I haven't seen in years and obviously haven't felt the need to rent since it was in theaters. I'm almost curious enough to indulge in a refresher viewing.

Speed racer is like discovering Willy Wonka is real, but a paedophile.

That's the last time Chevy Chase was good in anything. It hasn't aged as well as some of Carpenter's other stuff but it's still an entertaining ride.

In The Mouth of Madness.

Post Mouth? erm nothing.

Spielberg's INTERSTELLAR is gonna be something special I suspect. He's biding his time with that one. Just imagine if INTERSTELLAR and BATTLE ANGEL are released in the same year!! FUCK YEAH!!

One project I'd love Cameron to do is CTHULHU in the modern day. WOW!!!

JACkass yuo are talking absolute shite. Carpenter will never be on a par with that infernal trio.

Among his biggest crapfests/disappointments are: Always, Hook, Lost World:Jurassic Park, A.I. and Minority Report. You may even count Indy IV, which should've been soooo much better.

"Son of a bitch must pay."

The millions of internets are currently in offshore Swiss bank accounts and are awaiting the word from the Secret One who will disclose all and sundry when the time is right.

Have you seen my honorable opponent, Gus Van Rant?

Police said they only learned of the deal after the 36-year-old man went to them to get his daughter back because payment wasn't made as promised. The man was arrested Sunday on suspicion of human trafficking.

As for the election date...good question. I don't think there is one. Maybe that's the punchline for the Mod Campaign joke...

A.I. is even worse. A horrible, terrible clusterfuck of a movie which would've been a brilliant, thought-provoking piece of cinema if Kubrick would've done it. But Spielberg, that childish blockhead, made a fucking kiddie movie out of it. With a terrible alien showdown (which reminds me of Indy IV).

But, alas, he indeed has not made anything worth mentioning in a while And Speilberg is a sentimental hack. Mostly, execpt for Munich, that ruled

A.I. is a God Damn masterpiece. I agree, it does improve with every viewing. That Flesh Faire is fucking disturbing. I love the episodic feel of the narrative. The ending is amazing. When David holds up the hair and says "Bring her back." Amazing moment. A robot boy that just wants to be loved. I don't know how you can't like this thing. And big props to The Berg for writing it as well.

And by the way, EMPIRE OF THE SUN is one of the most under-rated films ever.

And the topic has moved on from Cameron hate to Carpenter/Spielberg love.

Write that down and stuff it up your ass Doc P.

a quim is a pussyfart
by ironic_name Jan 13th, 2009
01:13:26 PM

Quim
by Spamgelus Jan 13th, 2009
01:17:14 PM

No, a queef (or quiff) is a pussyfart. A quim is a vagina. Quim has a long and honorable heritage

by xevoid Jan 13th, 2009
01:22:43 PM
It's been around since at least the 19th century.

1922, James Joyce, Ulysses, page 938:

"Ho! What do I here behold? Were you brushing the cobwebs off a few quims?"

Although I would have though the plural of quim is quim.

Anyway, A.I. is one of Spielberg's most adult, thoughtful flicks. If you think there were aliens in it, you didn't follow the story. Those weren't aliens.

I can see how some people find it boring, but I love the film.

I don't recall Moriarty's review but that may be something worth looking up.

".......and the moment had passed, for Monica went to sleep. More than merely a sleep. Should he shak her, she would never rouse. So David went to sleep too. And for the first time in his life, he went to that place where dreams are born."

I always love that visual of him sitting in the AquaPlane thing staring at the Blue Fairy for thousands of years.

However, I disagree with your assessment on BLADE RUNNER vs. T2 action scenes. BR is a whole other animal and whatever action is contained within serves only as a minor spike to the drama. When compared to the LA canals sequence, the elevator scene, or the motorcycle / helicopter / tanker truck chase in T2, they don't really stand out as "action scenes" (in the typical sense). They're more subdued almost like mood sequences.

Don't get me wrong though. The BR scenes you listed are fucking ICONIC.

1) John Carpenter

2) Johnny Cage

3) James Caan

4) James Cagney

5) Jesus Christ

6) John Cusack

7) James Cameron

The "Is Deckard A Replicant?" debate will never be decided. Personally, I'm of the opinion that the story is stronger and more meaningful with Deckard being human.

Wow, project much?

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I figured you guys already knew this. Now, if PKD said for sure one way or the other, I don't know. As I understand it, Decker is a replicant according to Phillip Dick and seeing as he wrote it, I'd take his word (altho I might be remembering incorrectly so don't take my word for it).

The official director's cut also portrays Decker as a replicant. Olmos's character leaves an origami unicorn lying on the floor outside of Decker's apartment and earlier, Decker had a very vivid dream of a unicorn. Granted, possibly just a coincidence but my take is Decker was indeed a replicant.

I think he enjoys Blade Runner more than Star Wars.

As for PKD, it's been a long time since I read DADOES. While I do recall that it's somehow implied that Deckard's a replicant, he never definitively says that's the case. But like I said, it's been a long time so I could be wrong.

(I seem to remember something about a bone marrow test that was used to screen replicants. Is that right? Can anyone confirm?)

Beyond that it's not the most successful movie artistically either.

"Yes there are two other things which nobody has seen.They come from two of the pinacles of our generation of films, i think when people look back on this era, when you have to be honest and think that just the two things that will actually shine above anything else will be maybe James Cameron's films and Pixar film's, i think people will look back and go they're the two, and they both have films coming out this year."Avatar" which i know everybody is looking forward too seeing that film and it will be an extraordinary moment to go and see it, it will be a true event and to see that movie and to see how he's trying to move cinema forward, which he always does every time he works."

Have any of you ever read any of those?

One theory if I remember correctly, with the finished edit without Tyrell being a replicant if there were 6 and 2 didn't "frazzle in a fence" that leaves the other 2 to be Deckard and Rachel? Just one of many theories

If the intellectual equivalent of a bottom feeder(insert AICN Talkbackers) thinks they are smatter than the collective critical opinion then they best unscrew their head and unfuck themselves! Thats why idiots should not have egos!

Please, kool aid drinkers, realize this. Cameron is like EVERY other director in Hollywood, he has shit wafting off his resume and NO director is deserving of the ball sack tounge bath Cameron's getting.

PS- Deckard is not a replicant. That was Scott misunderstanding the script and the original source

But this thread is one of the reasons I keep returning to AICN. We went from Cameron's future bed to Carpenter and Spielberg and arrived at another Deckard-replicant-or-not discussion. Guys, I love you.

Somebody had to say it.

There! Talkback's back on track!

Anyway by all accounts it was up in the air during production, as otherp layers including Ford were sure (And assured) Deckard was NOT meant to be a replicant. I think it's just an idiotic idea Scott came up with during editing.

2. Steven Spielberg

3. Martin Scorsese

Not big on self-awareness are you?

I agree with Motoko- AI sucks.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/ho mepage/showbiz/bizarre/usa/art icle2130752.ece

Also, there's next to none tension or suspense, loads of crappy (=unimaginative) set pieces, the atrocious happy ending (aliens or evolved robots, I don't care -- I always thought those were aliens who looked like a mix of CE3K and ABYSS alien design) etc.etc.

Lets forget about the Cameron talk. From now on lets use the Avatar boards to discuss our favorite films of the past 25 years. I'm sure James will love that.

Batman we hardly knew ye

As far as the story goes, well before Spielberg got into it, there was a piece in Vanity Fair about Kubrick that laid out the plot of AI, right down to the evolved mechas at the end ... It was point for point just like the finished project.

I think tonally, that's where it's mixed up. I bet if Kubrick was alive and Spielberg directed it it would have been more consistent; SPielberg wouldn't have aped or "paid homage" to Kubrick's style, thus causing a patchwork effect. And maybe Chris Rock wouldn't have had a unforgivable voice cameo? Eh - one can dream ...

Say what you will about the man's films (most would agree that some are stronger than others), but the guy deserves tremendous props for that. And make no mistake, the guy knows his shit and he knows why geeks "get it".

That being said, I think it's unfortunate that people think AICN is somehow sucking Cameron's cock by running photos like the one above. Back in the day, early production photos were what drove people to buy film magazines or visit budding new websites like AICN. And it appears that somewhere along the way, that sense of eager anticipation for something new and exciting has been lost.

As I've said before, the real "hype" for this movie (AVATAR) hasn't even begun. Just wait until the first official images and footage show up. Then watch what happens when all the major media outlets start running with it. You ain't seen nothing yet.

2. Minority Report

3. Catch Me If You Can

4. Munich

5. The Terminal

52. Indy IV

Even a near-total misfire like 1941 has more personality and juice than his better recent films.

Damn. You Cameron Groupies are getting funnier and funnier.

Sam, you're right--I remember reading about that.

Yeah, bad one--heh. I agree though, Gladiator rocked but nothing Ridley sticks out since Alien and BR

Directed By: Len Wiseman

Music By: Tangerine Dream

Oh...and it will be shot in New Zealand and look like every other fucking movie filmed there.

Try and top that James.

Spielberg is prone to laziness and will just churn stuff out because he's feels he's got nothing left to prove. He's knows he can just coast the popcorn stuff so he doesn't even try. He knows when he does something like Schindler or Munich or the hugely underrated Amistad that he's got to put some effort in. Which doesn't always mean he suceeds, but at least he tries.