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Mr. Beaks Delivers One Last David Goyer Interview For THE UNBORN!

Did ya ask him why Blade: Trinity was intolerable? by Speed Fricassee	Jan 8th, 2009 09:44:35 PM
Ya should have.
you should've left the CW ingenue stuff in by the milf lover	Jan 8th, 2009 09:49:32 PM
it's not like the interview wasnt long already.
It's up to 11% positive on Rotten Tomatoes! by Katie Geek	Jan 8th, 2009 09:51:15 PM
Thank God for Joshua Rothkopf of Time Out New York!
Too nice, Beaks by spud mcspud	Jan 8th, 2009 09:52:56 PM
You should've taken that boy to task for BLADE: TRINITY. Ther'es no fucking excuse to go from the heights of DARK CITY - a stone-cold fucking CLASSIC - to BLADE: TRINITY, or as I like to call it, GOYER & REYNOLDS: A LOVE STORY. I'm sure Goyer's a nice guy and all, but FUUUUUUUUCK... the guy canNOT direct.
Oh, and all that... by spud mcspud	Jan 8th, 2009 09:55:18 PM
..."I don't make what talkbackers think is cool, I do what I THINK is cool" shit... Guillermo Del Toro IS a fanboy, and it fucking shows. Which is why BLADE II is an awesome sequel in every respect, and BLADE: TRINITY sucks donkey vampire balls. When it ain't sucking Ryan Reynolds' balls, anyway. Christ, Goyer, get a fuckin' room already...
I don't know... by wampa 1	Jan 8th, 2009 10:01:19 PM
...but it sure smells good!
good third films... by Andy Travis	Jan 8th, 2009 10:10:06 PM
I'll go with The Bourne Ultimatum. Beyond that, it does get a little tricky.
Good to see some love for the Mothman by tolomey	Jan 8th, 2009 10:11:32 PM
I thought I was the only one. I really did.
that was a fucking funny interview by BadMrWonka	Jan 8th, 2009 10:12:26 PM
Cher and Shia! he does pay attention to the ridiculous rumors... even if this is a pretty standard horror movie, with a couple quirks, I think it'll at least be a bit smarter than the average, and hey, that's enough for me to give it a shot.
Good writer, shite director by frongbak	Jan 8th, 2009 10:14:42 PM
Blade Trinity was one of the worst comic book/Wesley Snipes films I have ever seen, and that is saying something. I bet Unborn is a piece of shit as well.
I really cannot think of a decent 3rd film by tolomey	Jan 8th, 2009 10:25:30 PM
Maybe Ocean's 13 at a push. And yeah Andry Travis is right when he says Bourne 3 but after that....I'm stumped? Can anyone think of a decent part 3?
tolomey by spud mcspud	Jan 8th, 2009 10:31:48 PM
RETURN OF THE JEDI. Yes, I know there are Ewoks. Didn't detract from all the Jabba's palace stuff, the Rancor, the Speeder Bike chase, the space battle at the end... Hell, I'll even take the Ewoks over shit like battle-droids-vs-clones-cos-th e-director-is-a-pussy and fucking Gungans. GUNGANS! Aw HELL naw. Also RETURN OF THE KING holds up, and let's not forget NINJA III: THE DOMINATION, starring Lucinda dickey and Sho Kosugi, which is without a doubt the greatest threequel EVER MADE. FACT!!!
3rd film will of course happen, no question but what? what? by Stormwatcher	Jan 8th, 2009 10:32:11 PM
Catwoman makes sense and so does the Riddler but instead do you go the route of the first and focus less on the enemy and more back on Bats? Tough, tough, though
I liked MATRIX: REVOLUTIONS... by spud mcspud	Jan 8th, 2009 10:34:26 PM
So sue me. I'd have re-edited the third act, cutting between the Neo-and-Trinity-go-to-Machine City story, the Gunbots-vs-Sentinels-at-Zion story, and the Morpheus-and-Niobe-head-back-t o-Zion stories in the same way RETURN OF THE JEDI cut between the space battle, the battle between Luke and Vader, and the Endor shield generator assault. Other than that, I fucking loved ALL the Matrix movies - yep, even the Animatrix - and I don't have to apologise to you bitches for that. I do not.
Doh by tolomey	Jan 8th, 2009 10:35:53 PM
I had completely forgotten about LOTR and as for Star Wars - well Jedi goes without saying doesn't it?, but then again aren't we supposed to think of that as part 6 now instead? You're right about that space battle tho spud, get's my heart pounding every time I see it - which is quite often lol
Stormwatcher - Mickey Rourke as CLAYFACE by spud mcspud	Jan 8th, 2009 10:36:07 PM
Though what I'd REALLY like to see is a movie of Grant Morrison's ARKHAM ASYLUM. Kind of hard now, as Ledger's Joker would be VERY hard to replace, but daaaaaamn would that be awesome... I'd also like to see a movie based on Neil Gaiman and Dave McKean's BLACK ORCHID graphic novel, right now, please.
tolomey by spud mcspud	Jan 8th, 2009 10:37:45 PM
I will NEVER bow the knee to Darth Gizzard and his LFL Empire and call JEDI number 6! There are NO prequels!!! In my fevered imagination, Vader pre-STAR WARS was ALWAYS a badass, and that whiny bitch Hayden Plank-ensen never existed...
Matrix Reveloutions by tolomey	Jan 8th, 2009 10:39:09 PM
For me that movie will alwayd be over shadowed by the potential awesomeness of what the Matrix 2 and 3 could have been. I thought we would have Neo teach everybody how to bend the rules of the matrix and then have two movies of humans vs agents set againt a Rage Against The Machine soundtrack. Sigh....It still makes me sad. The imagery is wicked tho.
Amen Spud by tolomey	Jan 8th, 2009 10:39:58 PM
Amen
Should I risk the wrath of the fanboys... by spud mcspud	Jan 8th, 2009 10:40:56 PM
And say that I enjoyed X-MEN 3 more than the other two? Less boring old men yawning at each other, more large-scale mutie wars. I liked it... HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN. Still my favourite of the Harry Potter movies, and a threequel! ELM STREET 3: DREAM WARRIORS. Second best movie in the whole series, after the first.
Tolomey - MATRIX 3 by spud mcspud	Jan 8th, 2009 10:42:22 PM
In fairness, the only other way to make the third Matrix movie cool would have been to go your way with it. An entire Matrix full of woken humans versus an infinite army of Smiths... Wow. Would have been as great as the Messiah complex ending we got. Like it...
EXORCIST III by spud mcspud	Jan 8th, 2009 10:47:58 PM
Got to agree with Beaks on that one - you could see two movies fighting for domination on there: one a thoughtful humanist movie about faith and the nature of evil, the other a special-effects driven jump-scare fest that tried to copy the first movie with better effects. The result? Everybody shat themselves when the nurse jumped out with the head-lopping shears - greatest jump scare EVER in my book, no question - but I did love the George Scott monologue when he's frying on the ceiling of the cell containing the possessed Jason Miller - "Yes, I believe in filth! I believe in pestilence, I believe in greed, I believe in sin, GOD I BELIEVE!!!". George C Scott is a force of nature in that movie, and it's still a very powerful horror that has no idea what it want's to be. It's a VERY interesting failure.
Going to see this tommorrow night,.. by sonnyfern	Jan 8th, 2009 11:27:03 PM
If only to see Gary Oldman doing an Exorcism!
exorcist 3 by alice 13	Jan 8th, 2009 11:40:15 PM
originally that movie was not connected to blatty's exorcist. it was an adaptation of the blatty novel called "legion". the studio got blatty onboard to direct the movie version of legion and then the studio decided it wanted to turn it into a third exorcist film and forced blatty to tie it in. lol. thats why it feels like 2 seperate films.
Goddamn Mr Beaks why were you such a dick by drturing	Jan 8th, 2009 11:45:47 PM
you were harsher on Goyer than any talkbacker would be. I mean it's not like he's McG. And for whatever snobby uppity thing you think, there's a reason Megan Fox is on her way to becoming a bone fide huge fucking movie star and Odette Yustman might just be, but like, say, the cast of Gossip Girl are not and never will be. While it's true Blade Trinity sucks ass, it sucks ass wonderfully and hilariously. The scene between Parker Posey and Ryan Reynolds is gold, like something from a whole other movie.
Trilogies by ThePorkChopExpress	Jan 8th, 2009 11:50:43 PM
These are on par with at least one of the other 2 films of the trilogy: LOTR Austin Powers 3 Mission Impossible III Bourne Ultimatum Pirates III SYmpathy for Lady Vengeance (if that counts)
Seriously Off Topic by tolomey	Jan 9th, 2009 12:13:06 AM
But if you've never read the Vern talkback for CHAOS (like I hadn't untill just now) then I really recommend that you do so. It's the funniest thing I have ever read at this site. Vern rips on the movie, the director and the producer. This in itself is funny, but the good stuff is when the said director and producer join the talkback and try to defend their movie. I mean, if you thought it was cool when Stallone came on here and answered our questions then you ain't seen nothing yet. http://www.aintitcool.com/talk back_display/24309
Tolomey by Paul Bucciarelli	Jan 9th, 2009 12:42:44 AM
Ever here of a little known movie called Goldfinger? How about The Good, the Bad and the Ugly?
Can't really count the Bond Movies by tolomey	Jan 9th, 2009 12:47:45 AM
As each film is a remake of the last (not literally but you get my drift I hope). However props to you sir for The Good, The Bad And The Ugly! Damn fine film.
Goyer admits his movies suck basically by spectrebeeyatch	Jan 9th, 2009 01:46:42 AM
He admits Blade Trinity sucked and then he also claims that anyone over twenty five shouldn't see the Unborn. Sooooo the film was made with quick scares to get 16 year old girls and their bf's to scream. Lame. The one question I would have for Goyer is this: If she's being haunted by an Unborn child why is he wearing clothes? Did he pick this outfit out before he went on his haunting spree? Seriously stupid shit. Unborn is unwatchable.
CW stuff....POST IT!!!! by robzass	Jan 9th, 2009 02:26:23 AM
I'm interested in why they keep hiring those actor/models or slashies from that crappy network for every horror film that comes out nowadays.
Back to the Future Part 3 by most excellent ninja	Jan 9th, 2009 02:37:02 AM
I CAN SHOOT THE FLEAS OFF A HORSE'S BACK AT 400 YARDS TANNEN! AND RIGHT NOW IT'S AIMED STRAIGHT AT YOUR HEAD!
I didn't know the circus was in town by most excellent ninja	Jan 9th, 2009 02:37:37 AM
must have got it off of a dead chinese.
Friday the 13th part 3 by sonnyfern	Jan 9th, 2009 03:01:38 AM
One of the best Fridays ever? I think so... just cause of the handstand chop AND Jason gets his mask.
I was gonna say Friday the 13th 3-D by Vern	Jan 9th, 2009 03:24:50 AM
Good call on THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY too. Many people like DEATH WISH 3 the best of the series, although it is the general crappiness and ludicrousness that makes it awesome. BEYOND THUNDERDOME is also seriously underrated although it's not as good as the other two, so that may disqualify it. I sure like DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE. And SHAFT IN AFRICA.
QUATERMASS AND THE PIT by palimpsest	Jan 9th, 2009 04:00:28 AM
Third and the best of those movies.
THE MOTHMAN PROPHECIES by I_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looki ng_for	Jan 9th, 2009 04:23:57 AM
Is a great flick. Completely underrated.
Indy 3. by Lost Jarv	Jan 9th, 2009 05:02:35 AM
Leprechaun 3. Lady Vengeance Return of The Jedi Return of The King Die Hard 3 Alien 3 (fuck you, I like it), Exorcist 3 Halloween 3 (In a batshit insane sort of way), 3rd movie failures are usually comic book properties. And, by the way, Oceans 13 sucked heavily.
So Keep Him Away From The Camera Then by LaserPants	Jan 9th, 2009 07:34:39 AM
Clearly the man can't direct a film, but he sure as shit can write one.
Odette is so hot that I can't pay attention to the films she's i by dr sauch	Jan 9th, 2009 08:17:47 AM
I'll be there later tonight
Star Trek III by Manos	Jan 9th, 2009 08:28:49 AM
Yeah yeah, I know, odd numbered Star Treks and all that, but I liked it. I tend to think of II, III & IV as one single movie, and in that respect, III is a worthy second act.
Morbius Spider-man 4 villain? by BrainFart	Jan 9th, 2009 08:37:05 AM
just announced sam rami is pushin morbius to the studio as his choice for upcoming villain. NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
zom-bot.com by Paul Bucciarelli	Jan 9th, 2009 08:39:17 AM
but they'll rave about as if it was totally original. just like everyone did when Silverado came out. It was fun and all but lifted heavily from better westerns that came before it to the point of cliche. The only thing missing was the a wagon train surrounded by war-whooping "Injuns."
Chef Goyer-Dee. by tonagan	Jan 9th, 2009 08:43:54 AM

The Mothman Prophecies' problem by Paul Bucciarelli	Jan 9th, 2009 08:46:08 AM
is that it's no fun. I don't mean in a silly, ha-ha sort of way but in an X-files, cool investigating cryptozoology sort of way. It's a shame because a lot of work from very talented people went into the flick plus Mark Pellington is a helluva nice guy. .The mandate at the time was we're not doing a science fiction film. I was always like WTF?
American Ninja 3: Blood Hunt by turketron	Jan 9th, 2009 08:53:56 AM
Can't really say it was much worse than the first two!
30 to 40 Is The New 20s For Nearly Everyone by LaserPants	Jan 9th, 2009 08:58:55 AM
That is, except for people who make the tragic, life-destroying mistake of getting married and having kids in their early 20s, thereby ruining their lives. But, then again, they usually get divorced by time they're 30, so, after getting over the crushing depression of realizing they have just ruined their lives, attempt, sadly, to recapture a feeling of freedom they never really had. The lesson? Don't even think about getting married and having kids until you are AT LEAST 35 years old. Better yet, don't even think about getting married and having kids AT ALL. The former because its a bankrupt social construct that doesn't work in the real world and only serves to make people miserable. The latter because WE DONT NEED ANYMORE KIDS. There are already plenty of useless meatspawn shambling about, and making more just seems pointless. Unless, of course, you are some sadistic masochist who enjoys creating and experiencing pain, in which case, feel free to ruin your life while creating more wretched, depressed, painful lives so you can have a pet human for a few years before they morph into hormonal monsters.
Rocky III by Crawing	Jan 9th, 2009 09:07:51 AM
Least favourite (after 5) but still a good'un.
Indy III: Last Crusade by Crawing	Jan 9th, 2009 09:10:04 AM

6% Positive Rotten Tomatoes by Johnny Storm	Jan 9th, 2009 09:45:15 AM
Wow, only one positive review. That's epic.
The Good/Bad/Ugly is not a sequel not at all by Stormwatcher	Jan 9th, 2009 09:59:51 AM
Look, its so high on my list of fav films, i adore Leone, Once Upon A time in the West is brilliant for Fonda's against type bad guy and Bronson is basically Roland of Giliead incarnate and Robbards gives his best non dickhead lawyer role ever, I love all the Leone films but GBU is not a sequel of a trilogy like StarWars ect... Its a very different beast, like the 3rd batch of chili where you finally get the recipe right. Such a perfect movie. Damn its good.
Stromwatcher by Paul Bucciarelli	Jan 9th, 2009 10:14:20 AM
I beg to differ but that's not the point here. The point is were there any good third movies in a series. This is the third movie with Eastwood playing the same character as he did in the previous two..
Yep! by LaserPants	Jan 9th, 2009 10:16:00 AM
I've scrupulously avoided marriage and children, preferring to keep my freedom, whilst watching my friends slowly whither and die in loveless marriages with children. I notice my "married w/ children" friends look older, and more haggard, and more miserable by the day whilst they tell me, "man, how do you stay so young looking?" Easy. No marriage and no kids. Luckily my girlfriend agrees with me.
GOOD, BAD, UGLY is a prequel by palimpsest	Jan 9th, 2009 10:46:57 AM
Through the movie he picks up the different items of clothing he wears he in FISTFUL and MORE...
palimpsest by Paul Bucciarelli	Jan 9th, 2009 10:51:03 AM
You just for gave me a schooling. I never knew that and am now going to watch it over the weekend to see what you mean. Thanks for the info!
This is good PR by CrazyGnome	Jan 9th, 2009 11:01:03 AM
With candid interviews like this, it makes me want to give the movie a chance. I posted on the other forum about how plants were doing damage control. I don't like spin. Reading something like this which sounds genuine, doesn't mean the movie is great, but I want to give it the benefit of the doubt. Also, as he said, it is aimed at 18 to 26 year old kids. They know what they are doing. Most of the talkbackers on this site are over the age of 26 and not married or have a serious relationship. Yes, there are exceptions, but as a general rule, this comment is probably true. This isn't a knock, I am immature and made peace with it.
connected sequels versus standalone film series by Spandau Belly	Jan 9th, 2009 11:02:54 AM
There's a difference between stuff like Bourne or Matrix that is one story told over several films, and something like James Bond or Indiana Jones that are just films you can watch in pretty much any order and without having seen the previous one or feeling like you need to see the next one. I think it's harder to make a film that is just a conclusion to two other films because it always just feels mispaced and disappointing since the final film in a series usually feels the most incomplete without the previous installments. If you watch the beginning or middle of a story you feel entertained, but if you just walk in for the end it feels like you missed something. The Dark Knight built on Batman Begins well, but in a way it's also a fine standalone film. Kinda like Aliens. So I predict that the next Batman will be the Alien 3 of the series, hated by most for BS petty reasons and loved by few in spite of its flaws. Oh, and Goldfinger is the best number 3 ever.
The Mothman Prophecies by Tin Snoman	Jan 9th, 2009 11:28:22 AM
The book was better. Especially considering it's...non-fiction.
Chris Nolan: you are going to direct the next Batman movie... by Leafar the Lost	Jan 9th, 2009 11:29:36 AM
Lets face it, Nolan, you are going to direct the next Batman movie. You don't have a fucking choice. Stop saying that you won't commit to another Batman movie unless there is a good story. Write the fucking story yourself! Get someone else to write a fucking story that you want to direct! Jesus Fucking Christ! Are you looking for more money? Look, if you don't direct this movie your career is over!
Manos by tolomey	Jan 9th, 2009 11:29:41 AM
You called me out on that one, yeah Trek III is cool, and yes I also see it as part of one longer movie (II, III & IV)
How could all of you forget by Fuzzyjefe	Jan 9th, 2009 11:34:33 AM
Scorcher III? That was by far the best of the bunch.
THE INTENDED AUDIENCE IS PG-13 by alice 13	Jan 9th, 2009 12:06:30 PM
for emo high school boys who will spend friday and saturday nites dreaming about odette yustman in her underwears.
George C. Scott in Exorcist 3 by Desk of Steel	Jan 9th, 2009 12:09:34 PM
The guy was great in it and the scene in the kitchen is slow-mo worthy.
the man with no name by Alec.Eiffel	Jan 9th, 2009 12:19:15 PM
I really don't consider the Good, the Bad and the Ugly a sequel. I don't even really think that the Man With No Name trilogy is really even a series, it seems like marketing after the fact. Clint Eastwood DOES NOT play the same character in those movies. I think it's just a case of a director consistently making similar movies with the same star(s). Also, Army of Darkness is a pretty good third movie.
Speaking of Friday the 13th part III... by Desk of Steel	Jan 9th, 2009 12:25:21 PM
Anyone seen the 3-D DVD coming out soon? That and some beer will make for a fun night.
ARMY OF DARKNESS!!! Of course! by spud mcspud	Jan 9th, 2009 01:30:46 PM
Way more quoteworthy than the other two. Awesome movie. LAST CRUSADE as well, of course. I was 17 that year and saw it at least five times or more on the big screen. Hazy memories of that halcyon summer back in 89 obscure any attempt at objective criticism... I just saw it at an awesome time in my life, ergo it's a fantastic movie for me. INDY III and EVIL DEAD III. Excellent stuff.
I never understood the Trek 3 hate by I Dunno	Jan 9th, 2009 01:34:19 PM
The first appearance of the "modern" Klingon (the first 3 minutes of Trek 1 aside), that huge breasted Klingon woman (again, setting a standard for the future), Kirk's pussy son getting killed, the destruction of the Enterprise, Sulu having a scene where he's a faaaabulous James Bond type, kickass fight scene with Kirk and Doc Brown, the first appearance of the Bird of Prey, which they would use ad nauseum in the future, nice visuals on Vulcan, including hot Vulcan servant girls or whatever they were...what's not to like? Much better than the goofball comedy that was Trek 4. So about this film...Nazis and WWII. We can't stop making movies about it. They've even creeped into our shitty horror films.
Star Trek III...again by Manos	Jan 9th, 2009 05:46:16 PM
Not to mention Dan Fielding from Night court. John Laroquette in Klingon makeup - that was worth seeing. I DO NOT DESERVE TO LIVE. The only real problem I had with III (and II as well) was the wimp who played Kirk's son. To (mis)quote Commander Eddington from In Harms Way (With regard to David Marcus) "I'm afraid I can't accept you as Kirk's son. I think somebody got in there ahead of him. David -"Now Just A Minute Eddington." Eddington - "Yes???" he answers, grabbing David by the neck and twisting his head off. He walks away, satisfied that he has saved the franchise.
I just saw this by Jarek	Jan 9th, 2009 09:38:31 PM
I take back what I said about it possibly being good. Aside from a somewhat interesting idea, it was... horrible. Absolutely horrible.
Just saw it too... by sonnyfern	Jan 10th, 2009 12:14:41 AM
Yup...sucked...
The Truth About David Goyer by JaPra	Jan 10th, 2009 01:40:54 PM
After reading this interview with Goyer, and knowing his past efforts I was cautiously optimistic that The Unborn would be a nice post-holiday surprise. Boy was I wrong. The film opens interestingly enough and the cuts right to two hot girls talking on the phone and all of a sudden one hears something. I've seen this a dozen times in more then a dozen films. I was almost devastated by watching the events unfold in this film in an absolutely illogical manner while we have misogynistic shots of our lead protagonist in her underwear feeling afraid. As the movie unfolds there are scary children with gloomy faces and curses on top of curses, and of course, the black friend gets it first. I am hesitant to just flippantly say "Goyer sucks" and move on. I believe David Goyer should be taken to task at delivering a movie of such pedestrian quality, especially given his repertoire of writing unique and interesting material. I take issue with his choice of a lead, not because she's beautiful, but because the choice was obvious. I take issue with the idea that he believed the film had to be paced in such a way that as information surfaced the movie jumped along so we weren't able to digest it. The Unborn is everything that is expected of these kinds of films with a couple interesting ideas, but built upon a formula that relies on the pretty girl, the scary kid, the demons after her, and the curse she is about to find out about. I've just described most of the supernatural horror thrillers that have been released in the past few years. What I was hoping for was a film in the spirit of The Exorcism of Emily Rose, a film based in reality that was truly horrifying because the cast delivered the story in such a way to make us believe. I didn't want The Unborn to be Emily Rose 2, however, I wanted Goyer to engage me as a viewer with the same dignity and respect as The Exorcism of Emily Rose did. What I saw instead was a film that pandered to the worst of our instincts and went for cheap thrills over genuine suspense and thought-provoking scares. I'm disappointed in you David Goyer, this was a paycheck film for you.
Exorcism movies by spud mcspud	Jan 10th, 2009 02:09:31 PM
It's absolutely staggering how many people don't understand that the reason THE EXORCIST is so fucking scary is because IT TAKES ITS TIME GETTING TO THE SCARES. You get to know the main characters inside out. Seemingly pointless scenes - like Damien visiting his sick mother - all come into their own at the end - "Why you do this to me, Dimmy?". That movie takes so long setting up the possibility of demonic possession as being real and factual by being filmed almost as a documentary (very few ostentatious camera shots, and the few we get are related to the film-within-a-film), and by treating the whole thing as cmopletely serious. Sure, THE EXORCIST has jump scares - the flaring lamp in the attic, Regan grabbing the psychiatrist by the balls etc - but they're used sparingly, so when the first REAL scare arrives - Regan with the crucifix, her mother smacked across the face - the quiet of the first half of the movie has lulled us into a false sense of security. The rest of it is just pure relentless nerve-shredding terror: every bit presented in the same verite style, purely documentary style, as if every second of it were absolutely real. The problem with every exorcism movie since - even the better ones like EMILY ROSE - is that they ditch the verite/documentary style camera work and go all flashy because "hey, it's what the kids want, yeah?". Worst example: STIGMATA, or THE EXORCIST as MTV rock video. Then they forget that the subject matter has to be treated as absolutely real, and start throwing mad shit in there like levitating waitresses (yep, STIGMATA again), spooky silhouetted figures-that-might-be-demons (EMILY ROSE) and other random nonsense. Stealing from others should be absolutely verboten (yep, Goyer, that opening sounds suspiciously like THE RING to me) and the actual mechanics of the possession shouldn't get pyrotechnic until the end of the movie, and even then not over-the-top (EXORCIST III, with your frying-on-the-ceiling priests, that's YOU). Why is all this so hard to do? EXORCISM OF EMILY ROSE was great precisely because (a) it loked like a documentary, and (b) because (spooky silhouetted figures aside) the actual exorcism / possession scenes were played brilliantly (Jennifer Carpenter is TERRIFYING in that movie) and for what they were: completely inconclusive. The fact that she could have been epileptic and/or mentally ill, and that the movie played it as either/or, added to that realism, and that's what made it great. Best exorcism drama since THE EXORCIST? I enjoyed the hell out of CONSTANTINE, with its grimy, broken-down exorcism scenes, but I'd have to say the UK TV series APPARITIONS with Martin Shaw was absolutely awesome. Yep, it may be for the olds - I'm 36, and appreciate getting to know my characters without being induced to epilepsy by Tony-Scott-style editing - but it built slowly and got great towards the end. Sounds like when Goyer says he made this movie for the 18-24 year olds, he thinks they're ALL attention-deficient fast-cut-addicted thoroughly dumb-assed idiots who can't remember any other horror movies they've ever seen (otherwise they'd remember that opening from THE RING and it'd feel strangely familiar) and don't care if the story makes any sense whatsoever (because it REALLY doesn't sound as if this does). Fuck, Goyer. Show some respect for this business you're in! You're one of the best writers we have in Hollywood - so why are you so hell-bent on being the fucking worst director? And if ANYONE goes near remaking THE EXORCIST... A Spud will rise...
the truth about David Goyer by drturing	Jan 10th, 2009 02:20:58 PM
I mean come on, he didn't really write The Dark Knight. The cheesiest stuff in Batman Begins is probably his. And he's a horrible director but at least funny about it. And yet, he's a really nice, sweet guy. Come on it's not like he's McG or something.
Goyer rocks... by lynxpro	Jan 10th, 2009 04:22:47 PM
I dig his taste and I'm happy to learn that there is a writer/director out there that actually likes The Mothman Prophecies as much as I do. I was disappointed when Goyer closed down his MySpace profile because I always wanted to ask him a couple of questions...
TALIA AL GHUL for BATMAN 3 by lynxpro	Jan 10th, 2009 04:27:50 PM
See, I'm going to post this on and on for the next three years until Warner Bros. sees the logic in my wisdom. I did that regarding Ra's Al Ghul and he did show up in Batman Begins after all. And I want a [really] hot actress in the role. Shame Monica Bellucci will be too old by then. Then again, there's always Rhona Mitra. She might even be A- List by then. Mmmm... Rhona Mitra.
So it's the audiences who make bad movies, not the directors! by brandon25	Jan 11th, 2009 01:15:47 AM
Damn it all makes sense now! "You know, there's some interesting creepy stuff in this, but then the final act is just the usual scares." But there's also an expectation from the audience that that's what they want." That's a long-winded way of basically saying that the movie was made as a throwaway horror release to be nothing but a loud distraction so teens can goof off in the theater between "scares." And that's what's wrong with the industry, the horror industry at least-- the practice of crafting a genuinely good horror picture. It's what happened with The Strangers, a well-made scare fest but as empty as theater rooms still playing The Unborn in a couple of weeks.
just want to remind beaks... by cloudrider`	Jan 11th, 2009 06:30:44 AM
since you're advocating FOX boycott, please stay home when cameron's avatar is out. oh, you mean you STILL want to watch that movie? but it's a FOX movie. and you already told everyone to boycott all FOX's future releases. so which is it? boycott or no? it's precisely movie like the unborn who needs boycotting. support good movies, boycott bad ones. who the hell cares if one big studio is stealing money from another big studio!
Excorsist 3? Love that fucking film! by Stuntcock Mike	Jan 11th, 2009 08:26:46 AM
George C Scott is batshit insane. And one of the best "shit your pants" moments ever(Hallway scene with the nurse)

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