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Is it real?
by Wants Vaders Executor
Jan 8th, 2009
12:42:57 PM
Am I first?
Holy cow!
by Wants Vaders Executor
Jan 8th, 2009
12:43:21 PM
Let's get drunk and celebrate this!
I think you are looking at your five Oscar Best Pic/Dir
by Sequitur
Jan 8th, 2009
12:43:42 PM
Seems about right...though I was hoping for Wall-E
First first first for the very first time
by Wants Vaders Executor
Jan 8th, 2009
12:44:44 PM
Hooray!
The Dark Knight for Producers and now DGA?
by skimn
Jan 8th, 2009
12:45:38 PM
If that doesn't lock it in for a best pic nom, I don't know what will.
Van Sandt - Ugh
by Mr. Winston
Jan 8th, 2009
12:52:56 PM
I appreciate filmmakers who are willing to try something different with their work, but Gus Van Sandt just sucks. He just sucks. He made MILK in the most boring possible way you could make MILK, and it was his most exciting movie in years. LAST DAYS was akin to watching paint dry in a tropical climate and GERRY is flat-out one of the worst excuses for a "movie" ever. To pretend as though he helped MILK as opposed to hindering it just baffles me.
It's a hard choice to pick one
by MontyPigeon
Jan 8th, 2009
12:53:26 PM
I think they will go for Howard or Fincher but I would give it to Boyle.

I can't see The Dark Knight getting either Best Picture or Director but it was still one of the best films of the year. Just not the best, in my opinion.

They're all great directors!
by pokadoo
Jan 8th, 2009
12:54:59 PM
Except for Ron Howard. Swap him for Aronofsky.
A shame that Button has the marketing muscle behind it
by Karl Hungus
Jan 8th, 2009
12:55:38 PM
I sincerely think Fincher is an amazing director. But he deserved an Oscar/Golden Globe/DGA Award/Whatever for Zodiac, not for the mediocre Button. I hope he wins one day but for now, I'm rooting for almost anyone else in this pack.
Is It Really Van SANT?
by Mr. Winston
Jan 8th, 2009
12:55:48 PM
I've been spelling it wrong for years. Hmmmmmmmmm. Really? Somehow that makes me like him even less, and that was my fault.
These awards
by ArcadianDS
Jan 8th, 2009
01:01:23 PM
are only a few tiers more important than those 'website of the day' awards that were so cool in the early 90s so every tool with a Geocities web page made one.
What
by marcomc2
Jan 8th, 2009
01:04:06 PM
about Aronofsky? what the fuck?
nice
by Toe Jam
Jan 8th, 2009
01:04:32 PM
seldom do i see a list of nominees in which all five match my own personal picks. this one does.
For me it's Nolan this
by zed261
Jan 8th, 2009
01:11:47 PM
year, Quentin next year. Shit, imdb has 3 new pics of INGLORIOUS BASTERDS and they did not even put it on the front page.
Absolutely the best directors...
by Fah-Cue
Jan 8th, 2009
01:20:07 PM
... this year. And the last few years. It should absolutely go to Nolan. He did what NO OTHER director could do -- pull off an adult-oriented, action-packed, as realistic as possible version of a great comic book. He actually SHOT some of his film in Imax (not just presenting it in Imax) -- going against the tide of shooting in HD and utilizing the finest resolution on the planet. He worked with the best actors (including Heath -- which originally pissed off a lot of fanboys in here [that's why 99% of the posters in here are NOT filmmakers]). His film was both extremely entertaining and thought-provoking. All you whiners in here can stfu and go play World of Warcraft in yo' momma's basement.
Zodiac is Fincher's best
by m_reporter
Jan 8th, 2009
01:22:07 PM
He, and the movie, should have gotten way more recognition last year. I loved Button also, but it cant scrape the dog poo off Zodiac's shoe.

Also very glad that TDK is getting all this (deserved) love from the audiences, critics and industry people. Can't believe we got a potential Oscar winner in a superhero movie.

Shit, forgot that it was 2009 already...
by m_reporter
Jan 8th, 2009
01:22:56 PM
N . . .o . . . l . . . a . . . n
by Nice Marmot
Jan 8th, 2009
01:26:52 PM
Hey, that's not how you spell Aranofsky!
man
by theBigWasted
Jan 8th, 2009
01:31:29 PM
can i just say that i really miss moriarity. what happened here? where was harry's sendoff after all these years? this site took a serious blow. on a different note, is it just me or was 2008 one of the worst years for film in recent memory? nothing even comes close to the slate of 07 end of year releases like assasination of jj, there will be blood, no country, michael clayton.
what does Taylor Hackford know about directing?
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jan 8th, 2009
01:37:02 PM
All he knows is how to slam fine ass old bitches. Helen Mirren.....mmmmmm mmmmmm. You spread those legs and its like opening the fucking briefcase in Pulp Fiction.
TDK is ruining every single superhero from this point on.
by Darth_Kaos
Jan 8th, 2009
01:39:07 PM
Everything now has to be like 'TDK'. WB is already in that mode, comparing all productions to it, which I think is a mistake. They pretty much put the hold on all their superhero movies for now.

It's a double edge sword. It shows that you can actually make a real super hero movie. (even though TDK had it's flaws) It was still well made. Personally, I think Ironman was better paced and was a bit better than TDK. But now, all things superhero will be compared to it. Even when Nolan's 3rd batman movie comes out it will be compared, and won't match up. If he's smart, he won't direct the next one. The pressure is going to kill him.
So...no one's picking the Wrestler for anything besides actor?
by heavenlykid
Jan 8th, 2009
01:40:55 PM
My prediction, The Wrestler will get seven nominations including best picture. B. Button gets more nods but no best picture one. No Guts No Glory.
I agree with m_reporter
by AdrianVeidt
Jan 8th, 2009
01:41:05 PM
I think Zodiac is the finest bit of directing out of Fincher. I loved Benjamin Button, but the mood and tone that was set with Zodiac was absolutely perfect, and pretty amazing to pull off the way he did.
Seriously strong line up
by thinboyslim.
Jan 8th, 2009
01:45:07 PM
but would of liked to have seen Aronofsky in there probably in place of Van Sant.
Why no furrners?
by Boxcutter
Jan 8th, 2009
01:46:41 PM
Really? No non-English speaker made anything worth a damn? Desplechin, Rohmer, Hsiao Hsien, Alfredson, Mungiu, Wong Kar Wai. Loved the opening of Wall-E was 45 minutes of sheer magic and then it was just a message-heavy cartoon, so no Stanton. Nolan's technical achievement and vision were impressive, but the film overall is over-rated. Same with Fincher and Gump Redux - this is a Scorsese-type mistake, great director, wrong work to be nominate. But Aronofsky really should have received a nod for some lovely, subtle, stuff. Redeemed himself as a craftsman after the I LOVE RACHEL debacle. Howard is a by the numbers bore, whatever he does. Yes, he's had some great stories to work with, but can you imagine what a braver, more audacious helmer might have done with them? Moreover, Frost/Nixon is bloated with import and "significance" and self-conscious performances. Boyle: yep, pretty irresistible. Swipe the City of God playbook and a great DP and we sit back and enjoy the ride. Ought to win.
Maybe this will end the WALL-E for Best Picture
by Pennsy
Jan 8th, 2009
01:47:25 PM
drumbeat.
3 out of 4 guilds, lookin good
by waggy
Jan 8th, 2009
01:49:05 PM
i think i speak for most superhero fans out there when i say a nomination is a win in this case. 10 years ago who would've thought that we'd be in this position today? fingers crossed until they make the announcements.
I'm a big fan of Fincher's eye...
by JDanielP
Jan 8th, 2009
01:50:16 PM
...and the wife and I would love to (go) see Fincher's BUTTON, but we've decided to hold off and just purchase it on Blu-ray. But who knows? Maybe we'll go if the opportunity presents itself, if we can find a sitter for date-night.

And I think it's fantastic that Nolan is up for this. With THE DARK KNIGHT, he raised the bar. And it's about damn time SOMEONE did. (Now bring on Superman for the follow-up...and continue to prove possible what people can't imagine!)

Sorry, forgot...
by Boxcutter
Jan 8th, 2009
01:51:19 PM
Agree with talkbacker who dissed Van Sant: a colorless, unimaginative director, by and large. This is a nom for the subject matter of the movie. Where are Mike Leigh, Jonathan Demme?
Aranofsky!!!!
by IAmMrMonkey!
Jan 8th, 2009
01:52:06 PM
Today agree with you Mr. Winston. Get Van Sant the hell out of that list and replace him with someone who actually does have vision, and it would be the perfect list.
of those? Howard or Van andt
by j2talk
Jan 8th, 2009
01:53:17 PM
Wall E belongs where it belongs
by skimn
Jan 8th, 2009
01:54:19 PM
In the best animated film category. Just like docs go in Best Documentary category.

The creation of a fully animated feature is so different from a live action feature, its not talking apples and oranges, its talking apples and screwdrivers.

I'll still never understand how Chicago won
by Jor-El23
Jan 8th, 2009
01:54:50 PM
all those awards. Was Hollywood just so enamored with the fact that the movie musical was making a comeback that they heaped all this praise on what was a so-so movie?
tdk
by robamenta
Jan 8th, 2009
02:02:11 PM
never have i seen a duller more bloated unimaginative film as TDK
The Wrestler
by cineninja
Jan 8th, 2009
02:02:58 PM
is a better movie then all of those listed. Grand Torino is also a better movie. I dont think 'small pictures; get the credit they should. I also think TDK is WAY over rated.
Dannygloversdickblood
by ledbowman
Jan 8th, 2009
02:03:28 PM
You shamelessly stole that Pulp Fiction briefcase line from today's idontlikeyouinthatway.com Pitt/Jolie spot, where it was funny. You fucking poser.
Did Youtube go down?
by Kirbymanly
Jan 8th, 2009
02:09:37 PM
I can't get on that site. Anyone else notice this?
What about Clint?
by SebastianHaff
Jan 8th, 2009
02:20:11 PM
Yeah, Changeling wasn't amazing, but it wasn't any worse than Benjamin Gump. Gran Torino however....
GET OFF MY LAWN.
Classic. Acknowledge the man, dammit. That's all I ask.
TDK Oscar chances
by m_reporter
Jan 8th, 2009
02:21:31 PM
I think it's safe to say that TDK will get nominated for best director and best picture oscars, the chances to win are rather slim though. So I wondered how the re-release will affect TDK's win chances, if at all?
Gus Vant Sant
by kwisatzhaderach
Jan 8th, 2009
02:21:42 PM
will get Best Director. I can't see the Academy giving the Oscar to Fincher, Boyle or Nolan. And Howard has won already.
Shut up now trendy-haters...
by MrFloppy
Jan 8th, 2009
02:27:54 PM
Producers, Writers and now Directors... and now you say this awards doesn't count XD XD So funny.
Wall·E > Milk
by cifra
Jan 8th, 2009
02:29:36 PM
That's it, I said it. Awards are a game of politics, not of quality.
TDK
by ranma627
Jan 8th, 2009
02:32:38 PM
Very glad TDK is getting all this love. It may not be the best of the year but it's definitely my favorite. I would go apeshit if it won the Best Picutre Oscar. I don't want Benjamin Button to win because that one disappointed me. 2008 has been a pretty horrible year for film. All the movies I wanted to love especially The Wrestler and Button were disappointing. Doubt came up short for me, Milk wasn't that great, neither was Frost Nixon, Changeling was too long, Gran Torino had a decent lead performance by Eastwood but absolutely dreadful acting by the supporting cast and horrible direction. Just all across the board a lot of letdowns. My top 5 films so far are: Man On Wire, Boy A, Slumdog Millionaire, The Dark Knight and Walle. I know this was pretty unfocused but that's my take on 2008.
If Gus Vant Sant will win
by zed261
Jan 8th, 2009
02:37:36 PM
he should move on with his intended trilogy and finally shoot remake of Psycho 2.
I'd be happy to see any one of these win.
by uberman
Jan 8th, 2009
02:45:15 PM
All are good films and good directors and none is a clear favorite. Pretty well balanced list if you ask me.
Why is Van Sant getting so much praise?
by iamnicksaicnsn
Jan 8th, 2009
02:45:55 PM
I saw Milk over a week ago, and was not impressed. It wasn't a bad film per say, but I felt it needed a lot more. It was paced too quickly, and everything seemed very easy for Milk. The hardest thing he ever had to overcome was his (Spoiler?) little hispanic boy-toy killing himself. (End spoiler). The movie was way too much tell and not enough show.

I also felt like Dan White's story wasn't made clear. Was he an alcoholic? Was he a repressed homosexual? (no one knows now I guess, but they just decided to shoe-horn in that theory for what reason?) Why was his life so bad? And if Van Sant has the gall to bring up the Twinkie Defense (which was never brought up during the trial, but was simply a journalist catch-phrase), why did he only mention it in passing in the epilogue?

I did like the underlying political message though, that if you have a cause, and are passionate enough, it doesn't matter if you don't win every election, it's almost better that you don't, so that people get energized and want to back you even more later.

And what's up with Benjamin Button?
by iamnicksaicnsn
Jan 8th, 2009
02:55:46 PM
I mean, I love David Fincher as much as the next guy (The Game, Fight Club, Zodiac, Panic Room, Se7en), but this movie didn't feel focused enough. I liked the first half a lot, but the last half meandered somewhat, and had a lot of absurd plot points. If he really loved Cate Blanchett's character, he would have stayed and tried to make the best of it. Why did he become homeless and not have any friends who knew of his condition? It couldn't have just been the dementia. Where did he go after he left her? Did he ever enroll in high school like Twilight?

Even those awesome lightning jokes seemed awkwardly placed after the 4th time. But maybe I just saw it with a bad crowd or something.

Slumdog, Frost/Nixon, or Milk?
by rhcp2sweet
Jan 8th, 2009
02:55:47 PM
I've seen the other two (loved TDK to death, was extremely disappointed by Button) but which one should I see tonight? Anyone on here seen all three and help me out?
I love Fincher but Brad Pitt sleptwalked through this film.
by Stuntcock Mike
Jan 8th, 2009
03:03:19 PM
Cate Blanchett's character was unbearable. Don't get me wrong, they're two of my favorite actors, and Fincher's in my top three favorite directors. I just don't get the hype for this film.
rhcp2sweet.Milk is pretty good. Slumdog is REALLY good.
by Stuntcock Mike
Jan 8th, 2009
03:05:03 PM
rhcp2sweet
by ranma627
Jan 8th, 2009
03:07:10 PM
Slumdog is the easy choice there. Watch that film and come back here tonight and comment on it. I can guarantee you will love that film.
Button is a shame too
by ranma627
Jan 8th, 2009
03:08:28 PM
I adore Fimcher, I think he's the best director working today but it was such a let down after Zodiac, which was easily the best of 07'.
Helen Mirren is a ten on the finger scale.
by Stuntcock Mike
Jan 8th, 2009
03:22:35 PM
Jeez, what's with all the Button hate?
by JackBauer24
Jan 8th, 2009
03:24:03 PM
and Zodiac love?! I haven't seen BB yet so I can't comment but Zodiac was definitely NOT Fincher's best movie. I mean, it was a lot better than Alien 3 or Panic Room, I'll give you that, but it isn't fit to lick the boots of Seven or Fight Club. I'd put it somewhere near The Game in the ranking of his movies.
Nolan wins it.
by SomaShine
Jan 8th, 2009
03:33:31 PM
Regarding Doubt...
by Crimson King
Jan 8th, 2009
03:53:50 PM
I've seen most of the films thrown about for Best Picture, I don't know if this one should be inluded in the discussion. I mean, it was a good film, to be sure, but I don't feel it's the best of the year. I feel this picture is more of a showcase for the performances. And yeah, John Patrick Shanley's direction was nothing to write home about. I'd nominate Sam Mendes for Revolutionary Road over Shanley...
the oscar picks are becoming clear
by bluetunehead
Jan 8th, 2009
03:57:42 PM
now that SAG, the WGA, the PGA, and the DGA have all announced their picks, i think it's safe to say that the five best picture/director nominees will include

slumdog
milk
benjamin button
frost/nixon
and either dark knight or doubt

the other 4 were picked by all of the above. Doubt was picked by SAG, who are the largest chunk of the academy, while Dark Knight was picked by the WGA, PGA, and DGA. I wouldn't be surprised to see Doubt and Dark Knight be split over the director and picture categories, with Doubt getting a Best Picture nod and Nolan getting a Best Director nod.
also
by bluetunehead
Jan 8th, 2009
04:02:09 PM
Doubt was nominated by the WGA as well, but they nominated 10 movies over two categories, so they don't have to be as selective.
Show Darren Aronofsky some love!
by Jordo
Jan 8th, 2009
04:03:19 PM
His work with The Wrestler was captivating. I'd sub him in instead of Howard or Van Sant. The rest are solid picks, though.
This is a great list.
by tmanero
Jan 8th, 2009
04:06:24 PM
I have not yet seen Benjamin Button, but I loved all of the rest of the other films. What I like about the pack, this year, is that it seems like a true changing of the guard - sure, Ron Howard has been aroun forever and will get his typical recogition (not a huge fan, but I have to say Frost/Nixon is probably his best film, seriously), but guys like Nolan, Aronofsky, Fincher, and Boyle - these are some of the best newer filmmakers to rise up in the past 15 years. It almost seems surreal that there could be a huge Oscar between Fincher and Nolan, for christ sakes - true top notch filmmakers who have made their share of mainstream entertainment, but really have never compromised their visions. It's fantastic. But I'm kind of pulling for Boyle - Slumdog Millinaire is the best film of the past several years and the guy has just built up such a distinctive resume. 28 Days Later and Millions are really among the best in their respective genres. I have seen Slumdog twice and just got the soundtrack - the guy deserves his props!
Of course Doubt was picked by SAG...
by Crimson King
Jan 8th, 2009
04:10:27 PM
It's a total actor's movie. I'm not saying it was bad otherwise, but that's obviously why it was a hit with the SAG folks...
4 way tie but van sant can suck it
by logicalnoise01
Jan 8th, 2009
04:30:43 PM
he's too busy counting his money anyways.
rhcp2sweet: I also say go with Slumdog.
by a goonie
Jan 8th, 2009
06:47:30 PM
But Milk is great, too. They're both among my favourites of the year. Sean Penn is absolutely amazing in Milk. One of his best performances ever, if not the very best. But in the end, Slumdog would be my top recommendation among the three flicks you mentioned. The approach to the narrative is so interesting and the kid actors are so engaging. It's a very special movie with real dramatic weight. I'd love to hear what you have to say about whatever you end up seeing!
Milk and VanSant noms are political correctness
by catlettuce4
Jan 8th, 2009
07:01:52 PM
...nothing less, nothing more. The whole "proposition 8" thing means that all the "good progressives" in Hollywood think they they need to heap praise on this underserving film to show they don't hate gay people.
I just don't understand the TDK hype.
by sonic3305
Jan 8th, 2009
07:13:22 PM
I must be the only person who thought it was only "pretty good." Everything with the Joker was amazing, the rest was alright at best. I can't BELIEVE the fever everyone has whipped themselves into over the movie.
Dark Knight
by fassbinder79
Jan 8th, 2009
07:46:56 PM
Dark Knight Dark Knight
Fever whipped...
by kaspianwithak
Jan 8th, 2009
07:54:58 PM
I'm not going to try and argue that the dark knight is flawless. Or say that all the other films are undeserving. But I'll say how I feel about it. To me, the Dark Knight was something I had never seen before. It was a combination of smart, deep story telling with a nearly relentless pace. And it was a Batman movie. Not just a superhero movie because that has been done smart before, a Batman movie. Whose predecessors are all camp (even Burton's original two). What I saw when I first saw the Dark Knight was something that I'd never seen before, had consumed every bit of material produced by the hype machine, and the movie held up. For me nothing I've seen comes close to being comparable. Slumdog Millionaire is the next best thing I've seen and it really is very similar to City of God. Dark Knight blew everything else out of the water. I'm sorry, but I've seen politically correct gay guy movie before(I'm sorry, the movie winks at me way too much to be taken seriously). Benjamin Button was a letdown. And Frost/Nixon was directed by Ron Howard.
So....
by kaspianwithak
Jan 8th, 2009
07:58:16 PM
I'm totally in favor of the Dark Knight winning. For me the movie wasn't overhyped. Now if they had nominated Rambo...
"And Frost/Nixon was directed by Ron Howard."
by a goonie
Jan 8th, 2009
08:20:15 PM
Haha, kaspianwithak! I'm totally on board with you there. I think that comment pretty much sums it up. The more Ron Howard movies I see, the less I like him (and I never liked him all that much to begin with).
a goonie
by Sgt.Steiner
Jan 8th, 2009
09:29:30 PM
I take it you haven't see "Frost/Nixon", or "Splash", or "Night Shift", or "Apollo 13". Oh, and "The Dark Knight", due to the bs backlash, has become slightly underrated, versus, say, that steaming pile known as "Slumdog Millionaire". Resist, I say, do not be hoodwinked, hornswoggled, or let it turn your brains into tapioca! MIA plus fantastical idiocy, sentimental shit for dialogue, stick figure characters, and obnoxious end credits, does not a great film make.
awwww....
by kaspianwithak
Jan 8th, 2009
09:32:17 PM
Let's ease off the slumdog hate, I've seen all of those movies (you should have mentioned the missing as well). And yes, they are good. But like one guy said earlier, imagine they were directed by someone with vision, instead of just passion for the story.
Sgt.Steiner
by a goonie
Jan 8th, 2009
09:42:15 PM
I have seen Frost/Nixon and did not like it at all. Langella was very good, but I found Howard's treatment of the material to be very bland and obvious. The same goes for Peter Morgan's script. A big problem I have with Howard is that he so often paints his conflicts in sharp black and white. This isn't a terrible approach for certain stories, but I often feel that he is telling me what and how to feel, as opposed to allowing me do so on my own terms. With Frost/Nixon, I thought Frost was a bit of a douchebag. I didn't care about him, whereas Nixon was at least entertaining. But Howard kept bashing me over the head, reminding me that Frost is the underdog HERO and that Nixon is the VILLAIN.

I have also seen Apollo 13 and Splash and agree that those are very good Ron Howard movies. I certainly do not think he is a terrible director in every way, just a very flawed one. But yes, Apollo 13 and Splash are the two best movies of his that I have seen. When I made my comment that the more Ron Howard movies I see, the less I like him, I was thinking of stuff like Ransom, Cinderella Man, The Missing, and especially The Da Vinci Code. And Frost/Nixon, too. I'm sure all of these movies have their fans (and The Missing does feature a brilliant performance by Cate Blanchett), but I do not consider them solid directorial achievements.

I must admit that I have not seen Night Shift, though. So I better go and rent that. Thank you for the recommendation.

And finally, I am a huge fan of Slumdog Millionaire, so we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. I love the idea of tying the character development and backstory to the main narrative thread. Plus, I thought all the kid actors were fantastic.
I take something back
by ranma627
Jan 8th, 2009
11:57:29 PM
I rewatched the Wrestler earlier tonight and I love that film. So I take back what i said about it earlier. I think seeing Beyond the Mat, for the first time, then seeing the Wrestler a week later has made me discover a newfound appreciation for that film.
a goonie
by Sgt.Steiner
Jan 9th, 2009
12:24:53 AM
I did get carried away with the hyberbole concerning "Slumdog Millionaire". Your response and critique was thoughtful and a nice change from the "I disagree, fuck you" type of comments.
Aronofsky got jobbed out~!
by Super Rabbi
Jan 9th, 2009
12:31:58 AM
How sad. F4W~!
My thoughts on Slumdog
by rhcp2sweet
Jan 9th, 2009
12:42:32 AM
Terrific film, and definitely Boyle's best from the one's I've seen (Trainspotting, Millions, 28 Days, and Sunshine) A truly heartfelt piece of work that puts Benjamin Button to shame in terms of character development and emotional depth. Fuck, I haven't truly felt for character in a film like that in some time. Next up I'll probably see Frost/Nixon tomorrow. Three cheers for being a college student on winter break!
Can they all win please?
by spectrebeeyatch
Jan 9th, 2009
01:48:14 AM
I like them all but Aronofsky did make one of the better movies this year. So he should be there.
Oh btw stop with the bashing of Milk...
by spectrebeeyatch
Jan 9th, 2009
01:51:09 AM
The movie is very strong! Great acting and a solid film. I understand some of you guys are scared of gays or whatever but chill out the movie is one of the best this year, it's just a long list this year so chill out.
Nolan or Fincher would be nice.
by Motoko Kusanagi
Jan 9th, 2009
02:03:49 AM
Both are extremely talented visionaries.
Thanks for the friendly words, Sgt.Steiner!
by a goonie
Jan 9th, 2009
02:41:13 AM
It is very nice to engage in a bit of back-and-forth discussion on AICN and not have it devolve into an immature screaming match. I love coming here to discuss movies and read what people have to say about them, but the "I disagree, fuck you" comments get pretty tiring. I look forward to swapping more opinions with you in the future.
I don't understand all the hate...
by Crimson King
Jan 9th, 2009
04:39:06 AM
I mean, people here always bash guys like Michael Bay and Brett Ratner for trying to make a buck with every picture, but here comes Van Sant who tries to do something different with his films. Sure, he's made commercial fare with Good Will Hunting and Finding Forrester (and, *shudder*, the Psycho remake)...but regardless of whether or not you liked Gerry, Elephant or Last Days, you have to respect the guy for making films his own way and having the balls to pursue his own artistic goals. It's very hypocritical to suddenly hate on him just because you don't like the end results. And I saw Milk, and I thought it was a very very good movie, among the year's best. Do I think he should win for Best Director? I won't necessarily go that far, but I won't argue with his work being recognized this year. I'm not a big fan of Ron Howard's films. I like the guy. As far as I can tell, he seems like a cool guy. He says his way of approaching a film is to find what best serves the story, not necessarily imposing a specific style on it. I don't really have much of a desire to see Cinderella Man or The DaVinci Code (or Angels and Demons for that matter) or A Beautiful Mind...but I did see Frost/Nixon. And I gotta tell you, I truly enjoyed it. I can see how a goonie felt bashed over the head, but I'm pretty sure that Howard (and the writer) did a good job showing us that while Frost was the HERO...well, he was also kind of a douchebag. And while Nixon was supposed to be the VILLAIN...hell, he was pretty likeable in this movie. Frankly, though, the same argument made against Howard can be made against Christopher Nolan. As far as I can tell, his films don't have a distinct visual flair to them. I guess about the only thing I can tell is that he's kind of minimalistic in his approach to sets and surroundings. I know, The Dark Knight is this big, sprawling, epic tale...but still, I think you know what I mean. I know this may sound sacrilegious (sp?) to some of you, but this is coming from someone who absolutely LOVES The Dark Knight and has seen it many times. I'm not saying that Christopher Nolan isn't a talented director. I'm saying that a director's talent isn't necessarily measured by any kind of style that person possesses. Instead, I think, a director's talent should be measured by his or her ability to bring their vision to the screen. By their ability to bring all the elements together in order to tell us a story, to get us invested in that story. This is where Christopher Nolan excels. Ron Howard also possesses this talent, although to me it seems as though he's more interested in the accolades than his vision. I know Howard is capable of great filmmaking if it's something he's passionate about. Frost/Nixon is proof of this. I believe he made this film because he truly wanted to, and he told the studio he wouldn't make it without the actors that were in the original stage play. That says to me that this film was important to him, that it wasn't just about winning awards or making lots of money. That is why it is such a good film. I do agree with something someone else said, I believe it was boxcutter...Howard's gotta grow some balls. I do believe he's got the talent... Of course, that's all speculation, but that's how I feel about it. The other thing is that, well, shit, it's completely obvious, but no one takes this into consideration when stating their arguments...this is a completely subjective medium. Just 'cause you didn't like something, doesn't mean it's bad. And just 'cause you loved it, doesn't mean it's good. Sometimes you have to look past your own personal enjoyment to recognize what someone has achieved. No one here likes The Dark Knight just because they're supposed to. I don't watch it over and over and over again simply because I feel I have to. I'm drawn to it...it just so happens that there are many others it appeals to as well. And just because the masses like something, doesn't mean it's devoid of merit. David Fincher is one of my favorite directors working today. I guess I'm a little biased, but I've always enjoyed his work. He's one of those directors that knows how to tell us a story, but also has a sort of visual style that is present. In Benjamin Button he uses his talents to tell us a heartfelt tale about life and love and death. It's sad, it's happy, it's inspirational. It's quite unlike most of his other work. And it's interesting to see how his sensibilities actually work in favor of the material. I was moved almost to tears a couple times because some of it actually spoke to me. Ironically, I think the part that was supposed to be the most emotional is the part that kind of pushed me away. It didn't resonate with me like other part of the film did. I gotta tell ya...I LOVED Slumdog Millionaire. I absolutely loved it. I thought it was a wonderful movie. I bought into it hook, line and sinker. The story was great and Danny Boyle's choices as a filmmaker, I thought, were brilliant. They worked extremely well. The casting was spot-on. Yeah, it's a total feel-good movie, but I think it completely earns it.
Damn...sorry for the long-ass post...
by Crimson King
Jan 9th, 2009
04:42:46 AM
It was supposed to be broken up into paragraphs. So much for that.
TDK
by The Alienist
Jan 9th, 2009
08:50:18 AM
Even A.O.Scott in the New York Times, after giving it a rave, came back to comment..."hey, its just a very very good superhero movie." He went on to indicate how these films have intricate flaws within their very structure that keep them from becoming great films. I totally agree.
What are those intricate flaws?
by Crimson King
Jan 9th, 2009
09:08:05 AM
Explain...
As far as acting awards go this year....
by Desk of Steel
Jan 9th, 2009
12:15:29 PM
I think Benicio Del Toro is getting the shaft this year. He should be nominated for "Che". Is it the fact that it's not in 2500 theaters?
Don't understand Ron Howard's nom...
by JimCurry
Jan 9th, 2009
12:48:54 PM
Those two actors carried the movie, in roles they've played about 800 times before. Howard pointed the camera and shot. Aronofsky not getting a nod is ridiculous.
HELL YES
by purplepurple
Jan 10th, 2009
09:59:22 AM
TDK is gonna be nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars. Its happening.
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