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by spooky2k
Jan 7th, 2009
08:39:21 PM
Never got it before :P
First, eh?
by WhoDis
Jan 7th, 2009
08:39:40 PM
d'oh
by WhoDis
Jan 7th, 2009
08:39:53 PM
FAKE!
by GeorgieBoy
Jan 7th, 2009
08:40:51 PM
Fake rumor like the Eddie Murphy one!!!
Bring it on!
by Chanoc
Jan 7th, 2009
08:42:48 PM
Will he throw money on the floor and have Iron Man crawling to get it? Seriously, I hope this is true but I would love to see more The Wrestler Style Rourke.
Now for real comment:
by spooky2k
Jan 7th, 2009
08:45:09 PM
Firstly, sorry about the 'first'. Couldn't pass it up on a story like this though. This is great news. As soon as I read 'rourke in iron man 2?' I thought of the Crimson Dynamo. Great choice. Favreau and Co are really proving they want more serious actors now - maybe they've realised that whilst the first was great, with better actors in some of the positions (cough, terrence, cough) the movie could be a lot stronger. Enter Rourke and Cheadle. I for one cannot wait. Also, and I know I'll get flamed for this: You think if they make a more serious movie it'll shut the ever-ignorantly-praising dark knight fans the fuck up? Sorry, that movie was a good batman film but it was far from perfect or technically flawless. Hell, the only interesting things in a movie titled 'the dark knight' were everyone except the dark knight himself. Yay @ Ledger and yay @ Eckhart. Other than that...blah. Now please, get over it.
how many villains now?
by ALDEN
Jan 7th, 2009
08:45:37 PM
This is beginning to sound convoluted -- take a note from Spiderman 3 -- less is more
@Alden...
by spooky2k
Jan 7th, 2009
08:47:16 PM
As much as I just hated on Dark Knight, it proved that more than two villains can in fact work if they're relevant to the story.
The Hollywood Reporter says otherwise
by danthemagnum
Jan 7th, 2009
08:47:41 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.c om/hr/content_display/news/e3i 41ac0111ebdf3010eccb9bf50d4158 e4
Downey Jr., Cheadle, and Rourke? Can too many good actors...
by tylerzero
Jan 7th, 2009
08:47:54 PM
...spoil the soup?
I'd give my left teste
by dalbatron
Jan 7th, 2009
08:48:03 PM
To be at the wrap party of that mo fo...
tylerzero
by mr_l_74
Jan 7th, 2009
08:50:03 PM
Didn't hurt Dark Knight
AINT IT COOL LINKS
by Gungan Slayer
Jan 7th, 2009
08:51:37 PM
How much more acting ass does Sam Rockwell have to kick
by pzadvance
Jan 7th, 2009
08:54:00 PM
before he can get even a MENTION in an AICN news story? SECOND PARAGRAPH OF THE VARIETY LINK, come on, assholes! I can understand leaving him out of the Title since everyone's hot on Rourke's balls right now, but honestly, that's just bad reporting.
Rourke is actually playing NFL Superpro, in his later years.
by Flim Springfield
Jan 7th, 2009
08:55:17 PM
Don't do it Mickey!!!
by BobParr
Jan 7th, 2009
08:58:19 PM
You are about to be pigeonholed again.
And The Black Window will be in Iron Man 2!!!
by Suki_Jonze
Jan 7th, 2009
09:00:05 PM
Here's the scoop http://tinyurl.com/axudde
Another "Guy in Robot Suit" villain? Is that all Iron Man has?
by flickchick85
Jan 7th, 2009
09:00:36 PM
That's not a joke but a serious question. I'm totally unfamiliar with Iron Man outside of the movie - are all of his villains guys who wear similar killer technology? That seems like it would get a
Better as the Titanium Man
by Continentalop
Jan 7th, 2009
09:00:41 PM
For all you old time comic book fans, the Titanium Man challenged Iron Man to a televised fight, kind of like a wrestling smackdown.
Oh, but Rourke joining the cast...
by flickchick85
Jan 7th, 2009
09:02:42 PM
is awesome. Goes without saying, but I felt the need to throw that in anyway so I don't sound like Debbie Downer.
Damn, no edit button...
by flickchick85
Jan 7th, 2009
09:03:53 PM
That last sentence a few posts up should've read, "That seems like it would get a little old."
Too Many Suits. Realism Has Its Down Sides
by Frodo T. Baggins
Jan 7th, 2009
09:06:11 PM
Iam not too excited about another suit on suit fight to say the least. However Superman has always been dogged for never having a fist fight...No himself doesnt count or the triplets. I dunno. Not exciting. I didnt even like it in Iron Man 1
Great article....
by JimCurry
Jan 7th, 2009
09:07:45 PM
Proves this site really is just a message board.
flickchick85
by Continentalop
Jan 7th, 2009
09:08:06 PM
Yes, Iron Man has several foes who are basically evil dopplegangers of himself: Titanium Man, The Crimson Dynamos, Iron Monger. But he also has a bunch of hi-tech foes like Melter, Blizzard, Blacklash, The Ghost and Firebrand. He also has a bunch of people interested in stealing his technology, whether for a foreign government or for their own profit, such as Spymaster, The Black Widow, Justin Hammer and Madame Masque.

Finally you've got his arch-enemy the Mandarin, who is totally awesome but hard to pull off in a movie (but personally, I don't think impossible).

Jan-Michael Vincent as MODOK
by Jollymorphic
Jan 7th, 2009
09:09:13 PM
Sweet maybe
by Series7
Jan 7th, 2009
09:19:12 PM
Rourke can have his career rebooted with this movie like Robert Downy... blah blah blah blah. I'm fucking tired of hearing about old actors getting their careers rebooted when they've really never been gone they just haven't been in a blockbuster movie for a while. Ever since Pulp Fiction and Johnathan Travolta ever older actor now needs a reboot. Call me when Nic Cage gets his reboot or William H. Macy.
Mr. Zeddemore
by Yoda's Ball Sack
Jan 7th, 2009
09:20:40 PM
You might have just saved me. I am back from 1997. Thank you sir. Would you be offended if I changed my name to Mr. Zeddemore's Ball Sack? .....if not you have my thanks.
Harley Davidson and the Iron Man
by Groothewarrior
Jan 7th, 2009
09:22:03 PM
Whiplash?
by Fing Fang Foom
Jan 7th, 2009
09:27:47 PM
I remember him from the '80s so that info is wrong. Love the casting though.
Whiplash
by Johnny Smith
Jan 7th, 2009
09:31:11 PM
Actually first appeared in 1968, in Tales of Suspense #97.
Between Sin City, Iron Man 2, and The Expendibles
by Shut the Fuck up Donny
Jan 7th, 2009
09:32:26 PM
Mickey Rourke is at least ensuring that if hits another dry spell in Hollywood he'll be able to make steady income doing convention appearances for being in some potentially memorable films--And I don't say that maliciously, either, as I'd probably love getting paid to travel, sign autographs, and have people discuss my work.
Ain't It Marv News- pzadvance is right
by YackBacker
Jan 7th, 2009
09:33:23 PM
Sam Rockwell's mention is really important news as well. Clipping that part of the story off in the description was not necessary. We can bear to read the extra two lines of copy that mention Rockwell, you're not doing us any favors by editing that information.
Woops, looks like the story has been updated!
by YackBacker
Jan 7th, 2009
09:34:07 PM
Rockwell is mentioned, I retract my last post and apologize.
So is Mandarin in or not, dammit?!
by D.Vader
Jan 7th, 2009
09:38:10 PM
I don't really care about any other villain, especially if it's another man in suit.

But will the movie have a shot of Stark being blasted sideways through the air from an explosion directly behind him????

I dunno...
by Royston Lodge
Jan 7th, 2009
09:39:49 PM
a) Sam Rockwell seems too youthful of a fellow to play Justin Hammer. I'd much rather see the sequel center around Jeff Bridges' Obadiah Stane. He rocked that role. b) The Crimson Dynamo?! The Cold War is over folks. Why bother?
No Sam Rockwell love?
by robzass
Jan 7th, 2009
09:42:53 PM
Really? Yeah thats kind of important. But Sam's used to being overlooked.
But, I thought that one guy was going to become Mandarin.
by greenstyle92
Jan 7th, 2009
09:44:35 PM
No? pooh.
Marv and Guy, eh? hellz ya'.
by future help
Jan 7th, 2009
09:51:59 PM
some news to break up the slow week.
Sam Rockwell
by enderandrew
Jan 7th, 2009
09:55:49 PM
Sam Rockwell bothered me in Charlie's Angels, and he bothered me in Hitchhiker's Guide the Galaxy. I think he tries too hard.
ARMOR WARS?!?!?
by SkidMarkedUndies
Jan 7th, 2009
09:56:03 PM
Oh God, let it be!
Is that a picture of TARKIN from Star Wars?
by Stormwatcher
Jan 7th, 2009
09:58:57 PM
Seriously, don't it look like the baddie from a New Hope? But its clearly Whiplash he will play, too big to be in a suit. Also, it makes sense since the Black Widow is Russian. Sam Rockwell is perfect to play off Stark in the boardroom. Excellent casting. Part 3 will be even more Dynamrific!
Was Sin City Shit or something? Wasn't Marv a pretty big role?
by Stormwatcher
Jan 7th, 2009
09:59:54 PM
He frakking nailed that one. Why no mention of it?
Also
by Series7
Jan 7th, 2009
10:00:19 PM
Is Joan Jett Mickey Rourke's doppelganger?
The Black Window?
by Rex Carsalot
Jan 7th, 2009
10:01:48 PM
That IS a scary villain.
That ruins my dream casting...
by jaddicoat
Jan 7th, 2009
10:02:09 PM
I loved Rourke in Sin City. Without a doubt the standout in that movie. I've dreaming that Chris Nolan would choose Killer Croc as a villain in the next Batman and cast Rourke in the part. Imagine what he could bring, but if he's taking on Iron Man I guess that's less likely.
And STILL no story on Ben Burtt & STAR TREK???
by Nosferatu Jones
Jan 7th, 2009
10:04:42 PM
What kind of movie geek site are you guys runnin' here?
Great Casting and a little on Judge Dredd
by nerosday
Jan 7th, 2009
10:05:31 PM
Marvel is pulling this off aces, and I like what I'm hearing about Thor so far too. Also Superhero Flix has up concept art from the new Judge Dredd flick, I'm diggin' that too. And I agree with Undies Armor Wars would kick much ass.
Shouldn't Rourke be playing CLAYFACE instead...?
by Nosferatu Jones
Jan 7th, 2009
10:07:02 PM
...in BATMAN, PART III? No make-up needed!
This is fucking awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!
by crackerfarmboy
Jan 7th, 2009
10:10:37 PM
If this is true than Marvel Studios are GODS!!! I have nothing else to add.
Glad to hear about Sam Rockwell
by Lovecraftfan
Jan 7th, 2009
10:15:47 PM
He was the best part about charlie's Angels along with Glover. He's just consistently great.
Rockwell's too young
by The Funketeer
Jan 7th, 2009
10:17:50 PM
Hammer was an old fart and while I love Sam Rockwell I don't know if I can deal with whippernsapper like him playing Hammer.
what about angel heart herc?
by logicalnoise01
Jan 7th, 2009
10:18:43 PM
Mickey + lisa bonet nudity = fn awesome.
Croc
by enderandrew
Jan 7th, 2009
10:22:59 PM
There was a gangsta in Dark Knight with cornrows listed in the credits as Croc.
Ironman's real enemy is within
by JeanLuc Dickhard
Jan 7th, 2009
10:24:48 PM
pick up a damn trade paperback from the 70's and 80's ignore most of the 90's crap ...
So no Mandarin?
by Dapper Swindler
Jan 7th, 2009
10:25:59 PM
Everyone says Mandarin wouldn't work, a Chinese alien myth guy wouldn't fit with a technology enhanced Westerner. But that's precisely why he does fit! He's the exact opposite of Iron Man. Every heroes greatest villain is their ideological opposite - think about it.
Rourke should have been Nick Fury.
by Ironhelix
Jan 7th, 2009
10:38:04 PM
i have had just about all i can take of Sam Jackson being in every movie. he's so over-used that it's just not cool anymore.
Rockwell for Hawkeye maybe?
by Spifftacular Squirrel Girl
Jan 7th, 2009
10:53:47 PM
I think I can see that as far as casting more than Justin Hammer.
DON'T OPEN THAT! It's an alien planet! Is there AIR? You don't k
by ironic_name
Jan 7th, 2009
10:54:44 PM
now!
by ironic_name
Jan 7th, 2009
10:55:56 PM
Rockwell is the man
by MrClark
Jan 7th, 2009
10:56:27 PM
I've been a HUGE Rockwell fan since Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, he was brilliant in that and has been in everything I've seen him do since. Without him Choke would really have choked. He's very good at playing the slightly to very unhinged characters and I'll really look forward to this.
Am also on the boring Villians bandwagon
by Miyamoto_Musashi
Jan 7th, 2009
10:57:54 PM
On the realism point; the Avengers movie will feature Advanced Tech (Iron Man), an incredible genetic mutation (Hulk and Cap), and an alien (Thor). How will this all fit together ?

At what point will they let go of the need to cling on to realism.

Re Mandarin, if we already have an Alien in the Marvel Movie Universe why not have the rings as well, alternatively, they become advanced tech.

I LIKE THIS DEVELOPMENT
by BurgerTime
Jan 7th, 2009
11:02:46 PM
Two great actors with solid screen presence in an already great franchise.

By the way, did anyone happen to notice there were no porn titles in Harry's top ten DVD picks? So sad. No hi-def blu-ray titties. Harry, in the immortal words of Mooj: "I'll pray for your cock."

Reasons I like the Mandarin and why he could work
by Continentalop
Jan 7th, 2009
11:03:09 PM
I agree with you Dapper Swindle, which is why I decided to make a short list of reason why Mandarin makes a great foil for Iron Man:

Tony Stark is hedonistic and very much wild and outgoing; Mandarin is reserved, and has a stick stuck up the stick in his ass.

Iron Man uses a suit of armor that functions as if it was almost magical – it is the limits of human technology and advancement; Mandarin uses 10 magical rings that are actually advance alien artifacts – they are beyond are ability and knowledge.

Both are aristocratic: the difference is that Tony Stark believes it is a responsibility to be born in his position and he should use it to help others; Mandarin believes that he is better than other people and it is his right to abuse his status and position of power.

He represents the enemies of modernity: Mandarin wants to go back to a past era where people like him ruled. He wants to get rid of the ideas of equality and the enlightenment. And like another anti-modernity person, Bin Laden and Al Queda, he might hate how the modernity has changed the world and the effects of technology, but he loves to use technology, especially against his enemies.

He represents the West’s fear of a resurging China: don’t want to go all nationalistic or xenophobic, or even racist, but lets be honest America and the Western world live in fear of China as a superpower. Mandarin would be that fear brought to the flesh.

Plus I agree with Miayomoto_Musashi that the rings could be advanced technology. Who is to say they are not 10 little “arc reactors” like the one is Tony Stark’s chest, which he uses as weapons and to power his own armor?

This would be absolutely brilliant casting.
by Kid Idioteque
Jan 7th, 2009
11:15:49 PM
I only "liked" the first film, but you can't go wrong with these two guys. Ever.
A Chinese villian in this day and age - good luck
by Miyamoto_Musashi
Jan 7th, 2009
11:17:21 PM
Think the Studio's could be too sensitive to China, even though the movie studio wont make money in China, as the movie will be pirated etc.

You really think so Miyamoto?
by blindambition238
Jan 7th, 2009
11:35:05 PM
Chinese government's always disapproves and demands censoring everything (hanging laundry in MI3). Just cause its going to cause a commotion with them doesnt mean the studios or most chinese people will care (ex: ark Knight and Kung Fu Panda).
This post didnt mention the 2nd big tidbit:
by blindambition238
Jan 7th, 2009
11:43:27 PM
They are still looking to cast the Crimson's assistant- who goes by the name of Natascha...
Just because Mandarin is Chinese....
by Continentalop
Jan 7th, 2009
11:50:02 PM
...Doesn't mean that the Chinese government would disapprove of him as a villain. Remember, in the comics he is also a enemy of the People's Republic of China, hating communism as much as democracy. One of his plots was using Fing Fang Foom to blackmail the Chinese government into giving him a fifth of China.
mandarin is a concept like anon or uncle sam
by ironic_name
Jan 8th, 2009
12:16:46 AM
either that or well see a chinese technology mogul who has had a blood transfusion with nanobots the eat him and replace him.
The Jonas Brothers
by ChocolateJesus
Jan 8th, 2009
12:28:49 AM
As Fing Fang Foom, anyone?
I'm not an Iron Man afficionado...
by Brians Life
Jan 8th, 2009
12:31:47 AM
Don't get me wrong I'm a HUGE geek, but Iron Man never really appealed to me.

Anyway, didn't his whole ALCOHOLIC kick only last like 2 issues?

Its up there with Speedy doing H as far as mythos goes, but not nearly as drawn out as most people assume.

educate me if I'm wrong.
AICN = All Mickey Rourke News
by Cruel_Kingdom
Jan 8th, 2009
12:33:49 AM
This just in: Mickey Rourke has signed on to appear in 14 new movies. More news in a couple of hours...
Brian's Life
by Continentalop
Jan 8th, 2009
12:40:23 AM
The Demon in a Bottle story line lasted from issue 120-128. And the consequences of his alcoholism forced him to retire for awhile from being Iron Man and turn the armor over to James Rhodes.

But even if it wasn't that long of run, it had lasting impact on the character. I mean, Uncle Ben's death was in one issue, but it seems to have had a lasting effect on the Spider-Man mythos.

So Russians, eh?
by waggy
Jan 8th, 2009
01:03:15 AM
Can we please please please see the Black Widow in the movie then???? Come on Favs, make it happen.
Mickey Rourke gotta eat.
by palpatinefuckedmydog
Jan 8th, 2009
01:47:02 AM
Bad move for Mickey if he takes the role.All that respect he garnered for the wrestler will go down the tube. A forgettable villain in a sequel to an over-rated popcorn flick is not the way to go after an amazing job on The Wrestler.Anybody heard of Ken Watanabe after Batman Begins?? He had an Oscar nod too.

by palpatinefuckedmydog
Jan 8th, 2009
01:50:50 AM
Favreau is just syphoning Mickey's new found notariety for his movie. He saya he's a fan and didn't mention Angel Heart or The pope of Greenwhich Village? poser fuck.
Contnetalop...appreciated...oh, and I'm geeking out this post.
by Brians Life
Jan 8th, 2009
01:58:44 AM
Thanks for the info. I actually remember picking up issues where Rhodey was Iron Man and Tony was on the sidelines.

I even recall one where he's bringing the armor to Rhodey and Tony had sworn to never put THAT armor on again. Something happens to Rhodey and he's forced to.

Ah, memories. And now I'm on a sick obsessive kick to buy the Demon in a Bottle storyline on ebay.

I think my original post stemmed from the way Stark's character has been treated lately in Marvel Comics. Don't get me wrong, I really liked Secret Invasion...but CIVIL WAR SUCKED! I hated the mischaracterizations of SO many Marvel classics.

I just remember Millar and Bendis using Tony saying things like "Well, when i was an alcoholic..." or "You've had what alcoholics call a 'moment of clarity'.....to me if just seems like taking the past greatness of the character and bending it for shitty storylines.

So ends my original geek out.

That all said, I thought the first IRON MAN was the shit. And I LOVE what Marvel is doing with their movie universe...minus the obvious (Fantastic Four, Elektra, X-Men 3, that shitty Captain America movie, uhhhhm...what else was shit? Oh...the Wolverine flick will suck. And the Ang Lee Hulk. Stop it! it was shit)
suit on suit
by killianx
Jan 8th, 2009
02:04:40 AM
Yeah I am really hoping they go beyond the whole Hi-Tech Villian everytime thing. What Villian groups like A.I.M.? I would love to see those yellow jumpsuits on screen!
Thanks Continentalop
by flickchick85
Jan 8th, 2009
02:10:46 AM
So I take it the Mandarin is somewhat supernatural, and that's why they're not using him? Interesting - since they'll have to go supernatural anyway when they'll be merging his universe with Thor's for the Avengers, it seems to me like they should go ahead and start moving in that direction with Iron Man 2. Especially if the guy is his arch nemesis, surely they could tone down his "out there" nature to get him to work. At least it seems like it would be more interesting than Iron Monger Part Deux or whatever the next Robo-Suit guy is. Oh well, I loved Iron Man so I'll give Favreau the benefit of the doubt on this one.
And with Rockwell now, this cast is becoming truly awesome.
by flickchick85
Jan 8th, 2009
02:12:06 AM
Iron Man's Enemies.
by Sithtastic
Jan 8th, 2009
02:18:58 AM
As fans like ourselves get ready for the second Iron Man film we're forgetting (save but one poster thus far) that Iron Man's enemy is himself. Tony Stark is fascinating in that he's not really a likable guy. He works in an industry that so many either don't understand or outright loathe. What's more he's an alcoholic and a womanizer. In the first Iron Man film, these traits were dressed up almost James Bond style. For the second film I want Favreau to go dark and remind us that for all Stark's superior tech, his human flaws hinder his better intentions.
Also Kate Beckinsale is 200% right for Black Widow (nerd moment)
by blindambition238
Jan 8th, 2009
02:28:08 AM
She's fluent in Russian, used to wielding firearms in black tight leather, and gorgeous.

Also, since Natascha is suppose to be Dynamo's assistant, it'll be revealed that shes on an undercover op with the FSB. They could have Beckinsale pull off the bookish nerdy look as well to throw off the audience.

Finally Hillary Swank would also make a good Maria Hill since she can act and has about the same jawline too.

Faverau and Nolan can have a friendly competition to see how many Oscar winners and nominees they can stuff into their casts...

My Hopes for Iron Man...
by Continentalop
Jan 8th, 2009
02:45:54 AM
I don't mind seeing Crimson Dynamo (although I actually hope it is the Titanium Man, one step tougher than Iron Man), Black Widow and Justin Hammer in one film, but I hope for the third one they bring in the Mandarin. We have already seen the foreshadowing for him in the first one with the terrorist organization 'The 10 Rings". lets have someone actually mention a mysterious terrorist/criminal named the Mandarin in the next one, and in the third you can break him out.

Prediction: Rockwell will be Justin Hammer, but Hammer will be more like the Obediah Stane in the comics: a ruthless rival of Stark's who must win at all cost.

Other prediction: That in one of the next two Iron Man movies he will face not one, or two, but a bunch of guys in armors based on his. Kind of like when he fought the Raiders or Mandroids. I mean if Iron Man has already fought a bigger version of his armor, that only leaves him fighting multiple armor wearers.

Its kind of like Kung-Fu movies: the hero either fights a guy bigger than himself or else a bunch of kung fu fighters at once.

Sam Rockwell as Peter Cushing!
by photoboy
Jan 8th, 2009
03:03:50 AM
I think Rourke would make an awesome bad guy, he's so well built he looks like he could take on the Iron Man suit without a suit of his own! I hope this turns out to be true!
Love it when Talkbackers break a story
by Heckles
Jan 8th, 2009
03:36:06 AM
If it's by a few hours, I understand. But holy shit balls on a bike. Come on, AICN. You're marginally better than this.
Love it when Talkbackers break a story
by Heckles
Jan 8th, 2009
03:36:08 AM
If it's by a few hours, I understand. But holy shit balls on a bike. Come on, AICN. You're marginally better than this.
Balls, a double click gone mad
by Heckles
Jan 8th, 2009
03:36:50 AM
Site admin, please fix.
Why not cast Christopher Lee as Justin Hammer?
by Stalkeye
Jan 8th, 2009
04:23:55 AM
This guy's legendary not to mention adding a bit of class to a "Popcorn flick".Too old? Bullshit, if he could pull if off as count dooku in the star wars prequels, why not IM2? Rockwell is too young for the role.
X2, Spider-Man 2, The Dark Knight...
by Mr Gorilla
Jan 8th, 2009
04:32:29 AM
That's right: Superhero sequels are WAY better than their predecessors. May Iron Man 2 continue the tradition... Please...
I am so damn happy for mickey
by Broseph
Jan 8th, 2009
04:42:03 AM
It's great to see him back.i loved him as marv and the cook i'm still waiting to see if we're gonna get the wrestler before i watch it online
They might merge Justin Hammer with Obediah's son...
by blindambition238
Jan 8th, 2009
04:54:10 AM
...Ezekiel Stane- who came back in a big way the past 2 years in Iron Man comics and The Order which was basically like an Iron Man spin-off.

He was like a younger, more deranged, but possibly more brillant version of Tony who develops a bio-mechanical version of Iron Man tech that's intergrated into human physiology. Effectively Iron Man version 2.0

Since it would be cliche to add him in and out of left field since the first movie made no mention of him, I could see them using that template for Justin Hammer. It would make more sense considering Rockwell's age (if thats who he is indeed playing), and make him more of a direct rival that just a crusty old tycoon.

Mickey Rourke!
by laraz
Jan 8th, 2009
06:08:41 AM
Come on this guy has always been a joke. His presence his cool on screen, but the fucker cant act. Never could, he sucked in Angel Heart & SinCity! If they give him the oscar this year I will puke, might as well of gave it to Stallone for ROCKY! IronMan 2 will suck now! I can save my $$!
I'd be more than happy for both of those guys to be in it.
by Mr Nicholas
Jan 8th, 2009
06:14:36 AM
Rockwell in IM2 doesn't fit into my plans....
by morganmorgan
Jan 8th, 2009
06:36:08 AM
...of having him play The Badger in the next big-budget obscure comic book superhero quadrilogy! Dammit all to hell!
Armor wars!
by Dazzler69
Jan 8th, 2009
06:46:51 AM
That would be great and logical to have in the next movie. Mutants don't belong in the movie, also monsters.
rourke is brilliant. but he's not a fucking russian.
by Mr_X
Jan 8th, 2009
07:02:02 AM
dolph lungren to play crimson dynamo
by Mr_X
Jan 8th, 2009
07:12:36 AM
ivan fucking drago!
Speaking of, WHERE IS SIN CITY 2?!?!!?
by Judge Briggs
Jan 8th, 2009
07:20:23 AM
Bring back Terence Howard!!!
by npjs55
Jan 8th, 2009
07:26:59 AM
Cheadle is in too much, crap when they change actors.
Tony Stark's Greatest Enemy Is Himself
by LaserPants
Jan 8th, 2009
07:30:16 AM
Discuss.
Iron Man's Rogues Gallery Is Kinda Lame
by LaserPants
Jan 8th, 2009
07:32:02 AM
There are some that are okay, like Crimson Dynamo, Mandarin, et al, but most of them are pretty unmemorable. Probably the most interesting one was that gene splicer guy from the Extremis reboot; at least he was scary. Speaking of which, that book would actually make a pretty awesome movie.
Tony Stark's greatest enemy is his drink
by Abominable Snowcone
Jan 8th, 2009
07:39:47 AM
Everyone KNOWS that. Apart from that, yeah, LaserPants is right. Not a lot of memorable villains.
This is good news, otherwise. Hopefully over the next year we won't hear something dumb, like Mandarin will appear only as a swarm or a cloud of nanoparticles.
Yes, His Addiction To Drink, Ergo, HIMSELF and HIS CHOICES
by LaserPants
Jan 8th, 2009
08:03:31 AM
The addict chooses their behavior, its not forced on them by outside entities., Ergo, he is his own worst enemy.
Frodo T. Baggins
by DoctorWho?
Jan 8th, 2009
08:03:33 AM
Um, I think most would count Supes taking on Zod, Ursa and Non one hell of a fist fight! Not sure how you can negate that.
I say the movie should be...
by Aquatarkusman
Jan 8th, 2009
08:10:44 AM
realistic, realistic, realistic... and then BOOM comes Fin Fang Foom or Ultron or Dragonman or some other fucked up shit. That will set up the merging of the Avengers.
Why Does FIN FANG FOOM, The Space Dragon, Wear Shorts?
by LaserPants
Jan 8th, 2009
08:13:21 AM
Where did he buy them? The same place Harry shops?
The Mandarin is being set-up to be the Major Villian in The Aven
by Sequitur
Jan 8th, 2009
08:22:24 AM
They peices are falling into place nicely!
Terry Crews = Killer Croc
by terry1978
Jan 8th, 2009
08:33:40 AM
Not only because Killer Croc is black by canon, but the guy has some serious acting chops hidden behind that comedic facade.
At least in the first Iron Man
by Abominable Snowcone
Jan 8th, 2009
08:35:35 AM
although Pepper was in peril for a few moments at the end, she was never actually kidnapped. So Favreau has avoided the old Mary Jane-gets-kidnapped-again thing that Sam Raimi used in every Spider Man film. So now, if Pepper DOES get taken, the emotional stakes are higher. Because if you're like me, when Venom kidnapped MJ in SM3, I was like, "just kill her already."
Killer Croc is a DC villain, no?
by Abominable Snowcone
Jan 8th, 2009
08:36:26 AM
So he wouldn't be in this.
Rourke might be a badass and a good actor
by I Dunno
Jan 8th, 2009
08:49:38 AM
but the fact that he's a man who got plastic surgery for what I don't think was reconstructive reasons, takes a bit away from his bad assed-ness.
You skipped Barfly and Angel Heart
by jmyoung666
Jan 8th, 2009
08:55:35 AM
Rourke's two best films from the 80s.
Sam Rockwell is a Perfect Foil For Downey!!
by cowboyone
Jan 8th, 2009
08:58:43 AM
He's one of the few actors who has the charisma to go toe-to-toe with Downey. I'd love to see him cast as Justin Hammer (porn star name?) and come back as the main villain for I3.
Boycott FOX STUDIOS
by T 1000 xp professional
Jan 8th, 2009
09:11:32 AM
Sam Rockwell is probably Ezekiel Stane
by SpyGuy
Jan 8th, 2009
09:29:59 AM
I've read INVINCIBLE IRON MAN writer Matt Fraction and Jon Favreau have had conversations involving IRON MAN 2: IRON HARDER, so it wouldn't surprise me if Rockwell is playing Ezekiel Stane, son of Jeff Bridges' Obidiah Stane. Fraction's "The Five Nightmares" was a great story arc so here's hoping Favreau mines it for IRON MAN 2.
I just heard Downey is being replaced
by Cletus Van Damme
Jan 8th, 2009
09:35:46 AM
...with Snuggle

Ah, spring fresh! Thanks, kids, I'll be here all week!

***** Jeremy Irons for Justin Hammer *****
by JDanielP
Jan 8th, 2009
09:36:32 AM
Someone older and wiser, with the intelligence that time contributes.
Rourke as the Crimson Dynamo or Titanium Man
by JDanielP
Jan 8th, 2009
09:42:14 AM
Either way, that's a win/win. But the classic Titanium Man issue of IRON-MAN is a favorite (of mine).
Bob Hoskins as Crimson Dynamo
by DeweyOxburger
Jan 8th, 2009
09:53:59 AM
Just throwing it out there.
IRON MAN VILLIANS SUCK......
by GoodTimeBobby
Jan 8th, 2009
09:55:03 AM
IRON MAN VILLIANS SUCK......
by GoodTimeBobby
Jan 8th, 2009
09:55:05 AM
No one ever mentions Angel Heart!
by judderman
Jan 8th, 2009
10:02:47 AM
When discussing great Mickey Rourke performances. That's a crime. The guy tore himself to pieces to get that performance out. Anyway; cool to see Rourke and Downey, the two great Hollywood resurrections of modern times, squaring off. Their years in the wildnerness have been the greatest tragic losses to my cinematic generation, and it's a relief to know they're settled.
Iron Man 2 cast
by kenjinattix
Jan 8th, 2009
10:04:52 AM
Tony - Robert Downey Jr Rhodey - Don Cheadle Pepper - Gwen Paltrow Happy Hogan - Jon Favreau Crimson Dynamo - Mickey Rourke Justin Hammer - Sam Rockwell or Terrance Stamp Black Widow - Famka Poteate(Marie from Bourne Identity & Supremacy) The Mandarin - Sonny Chiba
Disgruntled Stark Industries applicant makes sense.
by Diagnostic
Jan 8th, 2009
10:17:25 AM
Bad recession in 2010. Villain upset he cant get a job. Villain dons whips to get the man.
So will they be swinging all over that long tall bank...
by Shepard Wong
Jan 8th, 2009
10:22:32 AM
in the Main Street?
Crimson Dynamo is a terrible name, must be changed
by Stormwatcher
Jan 8th, 2009
10:34:36 AM
Seriously, I would die laughin while he shoots me with his raygun. But Whiplash sounds cooler. I agree Beckinsale for Black Widow, girl looks tight in tights.
Beckinsale for Black Widow
by JDanielP
Jan 8th, 2009
10:44:47 AM
God, yes! She looks good in (or out) of anything!
Downey vs. Rockwell = awesome
by CPFA
Jan 8th, 2009
11:06:51 AM
1. Sam Rockwell and Justin Hammer both porn names. 2. I'm looking forward to the non-special effects, acting scenes. Downey and Rockwell? Downey and Rourke? 3.Mandarin needs to be handled carefully because the original character will not go over well now... they seem to be doing that. 4. Yeah! Stark vs. a bunch of armored dudes. Armor wars! 5. I hope the film ends with Stark sitting in an alley, scruffy beard, with a cheap bottle of booze in a paper bag and Rhodes suiting up.
Just as long as Mickey is a Vor
by zinc_chameleon
Jan 8th, 2009
11:24:59 AM
Like in "Eastern Promises". Russian gangsters are presently the nastiest creatures on the planet; Mickey will do them proud. Let him be MarvCubed!
They should have cast RDJ in blackface as Rhodey
by Clangbang
Jan 8th, 2009
11:47:56 AM
So conflicted; Iron Man villians are terrible, but Rourke and Rockwell are awesome. I'm just excited to see them both join Downey in the same movie. Hopefully they will all have a good script to work with.
More then one villain, cool
by Norm3
Jan 8th, 2009
11:53:42 AM
Maybe even the Titainum man will show up. Bring it on!
i bet its crimson dynamo
by joevfx
Jan 8th, 2009
12:01:51 PM
they already did concept art for him for the first movie, but eventuallly turned him into Iron Monger. I cant see them doing whiplash , that just woudlnt fly in the world that favrue is creating.
Fuckin J Lyman Stone.
by Chest_Rockwell
Jan 8th, 2009
12:07:27 PM
Attorney at Law. Bruiser, to his friends.
Here is perhaps the oddest thing I have ever seen..
by emeraldboy
Jan 8th, 2009
12:16:09 PM
on this site. Somebobody re put up the article confirming Heath ledgers involvement in The Dark Knight. From 2006. God this site sucks. ass...
both roles would cover a bad facelift
by ArcadianDS
Jan 8th, 2009
01:04:18 PM
i know rouke had a bad facelift, but at what point did he go to a surgeon and say, 'gimme the biggest fattest puffiest bottom lip you can - I want a mouth that looks like a bayou catfish.

as a young man, he had lips like thin leather straps. Now he looks like 'Lips' from Dick Tracey, slurpin down his horrible oysters.

Tony Leung for Mandarin!
by blindambition238
Jan 8th, 2009
01:14:22 PM
He and RDJ could try and out cool/suave each other
Mandarin and Dynamo
by KryptonsLastSon
Jan 8th, 2009
01:16:22 PM
My money would be on the Dynamo with the Mandarin pulling the strings in the sequel. They mention the Dynamo many times in the behind the scenes stuff on the DVD, became Iron Monger, and the Mandarin was hinted at with the "10 Rings" stuff thye did in the desert. I wouldn't be surprised to have the Mandarin develop the Dynamo and use an ex-Russian agent to don the armor. They'll keep the Mandarin more real though, no alien stuff, he'll use Stark's tech and Chinese/Soviet stuff to make it work.
Favreau said Mandarin will have mystical roots
by blindambition238
Jan 8th, 2009
01:27:10 PM
They're going to make a gradual transition to that world with each movie I think he said.
Whiplash already appeared in the first IRON MAN movie
by SpyGuy
Jan 8th, 2009
01:29:00 PM
Wasn't that the call sign of the USAF fighter pilot that tried to take Iron Man out in aerial combat?
wake Rickey when they cast Fing Fang Foom
by Rickey Henderson
Jan 8th, 2009
01:33:08 PM
No one on Earth will give you safety when FING FANG FOOM strikes!
Charlie's Angels???
by gringostar
Jan 8th, 2009
02:24:22 PM
Who gives a shit? Do you truly think that anyone will think "wait a minute, wasn't he the evil genius in Charlie's Angels?" - of course not. I highly doubt that very many people that will go to IM2 will have either seen Charlie's Angels, or at the very least admit to it. Furthermore, using that logic, does that mean that Crispin Glover can no longer play a villain since he also played one in Charlie's Angels??
Rockwell in the same movie as Downey is redundant
by Homer Sexual
Jan 8th, 2009
02:36:01 PM
Rourke is an awesome choice! Whatever villain he plays, he will be a great foil.

But Rockwell is too similar to Downey. Both so louche. It would be like having Julia Roberts against rival Kyra Sedgwick.

IN THE FIRST PICTURE POSTED ABOVE,
by uberman
Jan 8th, 2009
02:53:18 PM
What is it that is supposed top be dripping out of that guys eye, the guy with the model boy hair in the upper left corner?
Crimson Dynamo works for Hammer
by Ash Talon
Jan 8th, 2009
03:34:06 PM
I think they're treating Justin Hammer as an evil Tony Stark. Like a mirror copy. In order to combat the press that Stark gets with Iron Man, Hammer creates the Crimson Dynamo as his corporate mascot. Rourke is playing a Russian who wears the Dynamo armor.

Black Widow is in it as well, apparently. She works for Stark and probably steals some of the IM designs in order to have them incorporated into Dynamo. Since she's Russian as well, Hammer must have some connection to Russia. Hammer is probably under the influence of the Mandarin as well.

I would have liked to see Hammer employ several villains. Like he did with Beetle, Blizzard, and Whiplash. I wouldn't mind seeing the hero fight several villains. Just don't develop the villains. They work for Hammer. That's all we need to know. I don't care about their origins. Who knows? Maybe Rourke does play Whiplash, but after the IM plans are stolen, he's given an upgrade to Crimson Dynamo.

That last drawing...
by REDD
Jan 8th, 2009
03:46:36 PM
looks like Peter Cushing (ol' Grand Moff himself).

by ominus
Jan 8th, 2009
04:27:52 PM
although i repsect rourke and samwell and i am glad that they are in the movie,frankly i cant say i am happy with what i have heard about the movie until now,

howard was replaced (why i wonder...??),i havent heard anything about war machine being at all in this movie (and i dont think he will be),the new villains dont impress me and ofcoure mandarin is missing.

now spymaster and the ghost,were great IM villains.i would like to see them in this sequel rather than another replay of a battle between armors and a rivarly between 2 businessmen.

we have seen that already in the first movie,could we please move on to something new and differnet?

about natasha.beckinsale is a great babe for this roll,but i would prefer someone a bit more athletic,natural redhead and with a curvier butt.i dont know what actress could apply to the above characteristics,but i know some pornstars that they do :P

anyway lets see what the future is going to bring us

How do you miss Angel Heart and Barfly
by landosystem
Jan 8th, 2009
04:42:12 PM
when discussing Mickey Rourke? You named nearly every film he made except his two best... do you even watch movies?
Bring in the Ani-Men
by Heckles
Jan 8th, 2009
04:56:41 PM
That would be... terrible.
Someone Asked, "Where Is Sin City 2?"
by LaserPants
Jan 8th, 2009
05:11:59 PM
It died the moment someone signed off on Frank "Career Implosion" Miller's THE SPIRIT.
Sam Rockwell as Grand Moff Tarkin
by Zath_ras
Jan 8th, 2009
06:19:14 PM
Man, that cartoon picture looks like Peter Cushing.
Guess I should've read the posts
by Zath_ras
Jan 8th, 2009
06:20:08 PM
wah wah
Mickey Rourke - is this guy on a roll or what?
by hallmitchell
Jan 8th, 2009
06:22:13 PM
His performance as Marv should be rated along side John Travolta as one of the great comebacks.
Mickey Rourke will blow this...
by thecomedian
Jan 8th, 2009
06:27:49 PM
He's a marginally talented mush faced racist who blamed the L.A. riots on Spike Lee. He's got some chops as an actor but as a human being he's completely worthless. This isn't some small character part. This is a big budget studio tentpole flick. He will blow it and he will be a huge pain in Favreau's ass.
Don't pussy out of doing the Mandarin
by Drath
Jan 8th, 2009
06:40:31 PM
No fucking way did Mummy 3 do the Mandarin of Fing Fang Foom just because it had a Chinese magic user and a dragon for five seconds. That movie was SHIT. The Mandarin can be cool. Don't fuck up and leave out the fantasy from Marvel. X3 still sucks shit for leaving out real Sentinels and the Shi'ar Empire. The bitches who cannot take fantasy in a fucking comic book action movie series can eat shit and die. I have spoken, make it so.
Fing Fang Foom
by ominus
Jan 8th, 2009
07:24:14 PM
one vote from from me,for fing fang foom. its like a medieval-fantasy battle: an armored hero,a knight,versus a dragon. but pleast dont have finga fon foom wearing panties like in the comics.jesus.
Mickey Rourke - The Dark Knight Returns
by Ivan_Mtl
Jan 8th, 2009
07:33:38 PM
I am so happy that Mickey Rourke is making such a wonderful comeback. I thought he was incredible in ANGELHEART and THE YEAR OF THE DRAGON, and of course, he stole the show in SIN CITY. His newest film, THE WRESTLER, may be his greatest performance to date, and certainly deserves the Oscar for best actor. If dreams can come true, then I hope that we will eventually see him play the aging Bruce Wayne/Batman in an adaption of THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS. My dream cast would also have to include Ray Liotta or Willem Dafoe as the Joker because an older Joker would be the only way to recast the part after Heath Ledger's amazing performance.
You know actually...
by thecomedian
Jan 8th, 2009
07:55:57 PM
He was great with Eric Roberts in The Pope of Greenwich Village and he was great as Marv(even though I always pictured Bruce Willis when I read the comic). He's a douche in real life but he's a pretty talented guy and I guess he deserves credit if the Wrestler is everything people say it is. Don't really see him as Batman though. I just don't see him as an aged billionaire playboy, philanthropist, racecar driver Paul Newman type that Bruce has become in his senior years. I'd go with Mel Gibson or Kurt Russell.
FING FANG FOOM!
by blindambition238
Jan 8th, 2009
07:57:58 PM
HE WEARS PURPLE PANTS!

FING FANG FOOM!

HIS MOTHER DID THE NASTY WITH A SUGGESTIVE BARREL OF NUCLEAR WASTE!

FING FANG FOOM!

IS A MALE WITH NO APPARENT GENITALS!

FING FANG FOOM!

YOU CAN'T IMAGINE HOW ANNOYED HE IS!

Transformers 3
by crazybubba
Jan 8th, 2009
09:55:05 PM
If Iron Man fights another villian in an iron suit that's all this movie will be. whiplash is a better choice than crimson dynamo, but not going with Mandarin is just stupid. Like other posters have stated he's the perfect contrast to Stark.
If FIN FANG FOOM Isn't Wearing The Purple Shorts
by LaserPants
Jan 8th, 2009
10:21:19 PM
I'm boycotting the film. BOYCOTTING!!!! To delete this detail would shatter the entire meaning of the story. Just like changing the retarded giant squid from the end of Watchmen into something that makes sense and that people can relate to in terms of current fears would shatter the meaning of that story.

sarcasm
yea lets go with something safe
by crazybubba
Jan 8th, 2009
10:48:24 PM
safe boring and predictable just so the people can relate to it. why challenge them or take a risk.
has the luke cage movie been discussed on this site yet?
by crazybubba
Jan 8th, 2009
10:51:24 PM
i need to bitch about how horrible that's can be. tyrese..what a joke.
Another Iron Man Clone Stupid At This Stage
by HornOrSilk
Jan 9th, 2009
02:25:59 AM
People are expecting something different, so to make the sequel feel different. Mandarin is the BEST choice. Of course he could be developed quite differently, and more of a Bin Laden figure -- but unlike Bin Laden, he has REAL power, and a surprise when he finally is encountered. Make IM II very EMPIRE Strikes Back. Have Mandarin KICK ASS -- requiring, you know, War Machine, to help out.
What I would do with IM 2
by HornOrSilk
Jan 9th, 2009
02:36:49 AM
Continue on with Nick Fury from the end of IM. Have him mention a bit about the Avenger Iniative. But then say -- Tony needs to prove himself better. To see if he can follow orders. If he can, his IM can continue and will be called upon if the Avengers Iniative works out. If not, the government will raid Stark Enterprises and take over. The mission: find out who it was that Obadiah was working with, the one who abducted Tony, and put them out -- leading, of course, to the surprise confrontation 2/3 of the way in with the Mandarin. Tony is taken down. War Machine is called into duty, and barely gets Tony out -- alive, while Mandarin has succeeded in getting his last ring.. the end.
Iron Man was ok, just ok
by masteryoda007
Jan 9th, 2009
04:05:01 AM
Although Downey Jr was good he was let down by the rest of the movie. I would get rid of Favreu straight away. Anytime I see Iron Man I just think "computer generated"
Huge cast
by Larry Sellers
Jan 9th, 2009
05:02:54 AM
Samuel L. Jackson, too. Fuck.
Ivan_Mtl
by gringostar
Jan 9th, 2009
09:01:02 AM
I think that would be a horrible casting decision... also I can't see The Dark Knight Returns ever being turned into a film.
The only way DKR would ever be a film would be if.....
by thecomedian
Jan 9th, 2009
02:45:05 PM
..Nolan did it 15-20 years from now with Bale. Especially since the general public now only know "The Dark Knight" as the second film in their franchise. Doing it with a different older actor now would just confuse the hell out of people even moreso than putting Batman in a JLA movie because people would automatically assume it is was a sequel to TDR. Then you'd have to explain to them that it's not a sequel but based on a graphic novel from the 80's you'd just get confused looks and apathy from them. Though I could see Nolan's Batman naturally progressing into the DKR world sans Superman of course. Unless they end up putting Bale in the Justice League movie. Either way, as far as an older Bruce Wayne goes Mickey Rourke ain't it. The Dark Knight Returns would be a pretty cool movie 15 years from now since it's got Two-Face and The Joker as it's main villains. Aaron Eckhart will still be around 15 years from now I'm sure. All Nolan would have to do to set the stage is put Catwoman in his third movie and bring back Harvey. As long as Bale agrees to be in JLA then there's a way to tie Superman in too. As far a Carrie Kelly goes she could be Robin but in the movie continuity she'd be the 1st one. None of this will ever happen but it's the only way DNR could ever feasibly be done.
TDK I mean
by thecomedian
Jan 9th, 2009
02:49:04 PM
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