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Herc’s Seen The First Two Hours Of LOST’s Almost-Last Season!!

InVISOTEXT! by mrgreentheplant	Dec 30th, 2008 07:39:10 PM
must...resist... Herc you are the devil himself
The Island moves forward in time? by greenstyle92	Dec 30th, 2008 07:39:42 PM
Catches it up with the O-6 to avoid Inter-time headaches?
Don't worry about the inviso text by greenstyle92	Dec 30th, 2008 07:40:51 PM
It's the kind of reveals that are pointless without context. They are sorta "anti spoilers."
also, mobisode character has to be... by mrgreentheplant	Dec 30th, 2008 07:43:29 PM
Frozen Yogurt Guy!
"character referenced since season two" by Titus05	Dec 30th, 2008 07:44:29 PM
Alvar Hanso?
Titus05 by gnortsmra	Dec 30th, 2008 07:47:20 PM
Maybe the DeGroots?
GOTTA BE DR. ARZT! by eoneon	Dec 30th, 2008 07:49:34 PM
THAT GUY'S SMALL,YET PIVOTAL ROLE WAS AWESOME!
mobisode character? by gnortsmra	Dec 30th, 2008 07:49:48 PM
Could it be the Australian guy (Sean something or other?) that was looking for his flight attendant GF on the find815.com site?
the ending... by paragraphs	Dec 30th, 2008 07:51:11 PM
involves ben yelling the timer can't be stopped. that's all i'm going to say.
Does someone beat Farraday to death? by I Dunno	Dec 30th, 2008 08:00:07 PM
That's all I need to know. And not someone obvious like Sayid. Claire's baby needs to jump out of Claire's arms and beat the fuck out of that twitchy little twat until he's dead.
Need I Ask? by enderandrew	Dec 30th, 2008 08:02:03 PM
But are the episodes any good? Good, I love me some Lost.
I Dunno by Hercules	Dec 30th, 2008 08:03:06 PM
not to death.
Mobisode Character by PeaJay18	Dec 30th, 2008 08:03:52 PM
Has to be Neil Frogurt (Sean Whalen)- "It's Neil time, now and forever."
Yay for Lost! by IAmMrMonkey!	Dec 30th, 2008 08:09:17 PM
Yay for internet pirates allowing me to keep up to date with Lost! Yay for everything Lost related! Yay for Lost!
There's a Lost vs. 24 debate? by I Dunno	Dec 30th, 2008 08:10:22 PM
Being that they're the only two live action shows on network TV that I watch, I think there's room for both.
"character referenced since season two" by Mr Creosote	Dec 30th, 2008 08:10:52 PM
Ana Lucia.
Yay for Desmond! by IAmMrMonkey!	Dec 30th, 2008 08:11:13 PM
Yay for the first two hours not being Desmond free!
Yay for Invisotext! by IAmMrMonkey!	Dec 30th, 2008 08:12:11 PM
Yay for the fact that I can never resist looking at that tempting, sexy invisotext Herc loves using!
Yay for January 21st! by IAmMrMonkey!	Dec 30th, 2008 08:13:01 PM
Yay for the day in which everything in my life becomes less important than what's on the television!
I've seen the first four 2009 hours of 24. by Hercules	Dec 30th, 2008 08:14:35 PM
They're swell!
Can we ban Herc? by IAmMrMonkey!	Dec 30th, 2008 08:16:19 PM
I'm seething with envy and want that guy banned. Just because he's got a black box, it doesn't make him any more special than me. Why aren't I getting shown the first four hours of 24 and the first two hours of Lost? I demand a banning! Harry, make it so!
We by IAmMrMonkey!	Dec 30th, 2008 08:18:26 PM

Need by IAmMrMonkey!	Dec 30th, 2008 08:18:40 PM

To by IAmMrMonkey!	Dec 30th, 2008 08:18:52 PM

Go by IAmMrMonkey!	Dec 30th, 2008 08:19:06 PM

Back! by IAmMrMonkey!	Dec 30th, 2008 08:19:21 PM

BilboFett by IAmMrMonkey!	Dec 30th, 2008 08:35:05 PM
Noooooooooooooooo! And that is my final word on this subject.
I.... CAN'T..... WAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!! by redfishbluefish	Dec 30th, 2008 08:44:33 PM
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Lost, BSG & 24 by tangcameo	Dec 30th, 2008 08:51:28 PM
My only three reasons for having a television. Four if you count TCM. BSG is ending. 24 is becoming a bit of a joke (when the CTU boss began updating the prez and higherups at the beginning of each epi last season, I had a hard time not laughing at just how preposterous it all sounded). Once Lost ends next season, I may take up reading, or drinking, or knitting or sex or something. Maybe finally get that Great Canadian Novel written and finished.
LOST is the best show on TV... by ccchhhrrriiisssm	Dec 30th, 2008 08:53:46 PM
...although I really, really like BSG. However, LOST has to take the cake!
not only LOST vs 24... by Titus05	Dec 30th, 2008 09:10:43 PM
LOST, 24 and Damages are all back with new kick ass episodes in January!!...woot woot...can't get much better then that
YouTube spoiler video relates to new season by Riley Martin	Dec 30th, 2008 09:46:57 PM
This is the video someone posted of the pivotal Desmond scene where he turns the key. Check out the seemingly random shot they inserted back then which we now know actually relates to this season! So clever - http://tinyurl.com/lostspoiler
This show sucked me in... by yubnubrocks	Dec 30th, 2008 10:06:40 PM
as soon as that guy got sucked into the turbine. When do we get HIS flashback!?!
Herc, I'm so envious of you! by LoneGun	Dec 30th, 2008 10:43:18 PM
You've seen the premieres of both LOST and 24? I can't wait to see those! And the wait for BSG is nearly killing me. I have to admit I skipped over almost this entire post, as I can't bear to have any surprises spoiled.
Characters it's not by bah	Dec 30th, 2008 11:06:53 PM
Artz - He's been around since S1, not S2, and he appeared on the show in S3 (the Nikki and Paulo episode); DeGroots - not in the mobisodes; Hanso - not in the mobisodes (unless he was covert); Ana Lucia - introduced in S1, not S2, also not in a mobisode. I've got to go with Frogurt.
BREAKING NEWS for Time Warner customers by buffywrestling	Dec 30th, 2008 11:19:33 PM
http://tinyurl.com/9x7flc Fucking Viacom, Fucking Redstone....don't know why I am surprised, really. During the strike and other negotiations, seems like a lot of people are on the studio side of things anyway. Poor guys are so busted, they are cutting off entire channels now...
Melvin_Pelvis... by ArtisticGrief	Dec 31st, 2008 12:04:58 AM
They are. It began with season 4 though. Seasons 4,5, and 6 were all going to be 16 episodes each. Because of the writer's strike, I think these last two seasons will each have 17.
At first Lost was good.... by boogalooshrimp	Dec 31st, 2008 12:14:30 AM
but now it is almost like a four-dimensional sculpture, crafted by gods. Even this humble atheist can not understand how Lost is written by man.
BLOO NEEDS LOST NOW by Bloo	Dec 31st, 2008 12:30:11 AM
dammit, I needs me my Lost now...I can patiently wait though as i haven't picked up season 4 yet (was hoping to get it for Christmas no such luck)
I was so jealous i rewatched the end of season 4. by PoorOLtinTin	Dec 31st, 2008 12:36:18 AM
The damn video store was misssing half of season 3 and after all the ruckus today, I needed a fix bad.
Dumbasses! The character referenced... by Son of a Butch	Dec 31st, 2008 12:36:29 AM
...since season 2 is obviously Neil/"Frogurt". FFS, Herc said it was someone we'd seen in the mobisodes!
meh by ironic_name	Dec 31st, 2008 02:17:25 AM
!
Character referenced is Frogurt by BurgerKing	Dec 31st, 2008 02:22:26 AM
The yogurt guy duhhh
soooo... by dj_bollocks	Dec 31st, 2008 04:08:41 AM
any torrent sites doing the business yet then ? ahem
Fan of the show, but i hope they don't by Dingbatty	Dec 31st, 2008 04:10:13 AM
add any more new characters or mysteries that'll never get resolved, it's already top heavy with those, already.
Lost redeemed itself last year. by Yeti	Dec 31st, 2008 04:11:22 AM
Hands down the best thing on network TV.
We went through six carbon drill-bits and the last one just frie by punto	Dec 31st, 2008 04:21:59 AM
that's what she said
Done with flashes? by David Lazarus Long	Dec 31st, 2008 04:22:28 AM
Interesting... However, when new characters are introduced I'll be interested to see if they bring them back on an episode by episode basis. I feel like things will be lacking if we get new people and don't get that backstory that was so wonderfully crafted (and then beaten like a dead horse) for the main Losties. Personally, I feel like a decent Faraday or Chopper Pilot (can't think of the name - Lawnmower Man) flashback could be useful. Then again, I've learned to trust Carlton and Cuse. Here's hoping that due to time travel, we will get to see the history of the Island in REAL time. Our Losties stuck on the Island will get to meet and interact with Hanso, the DeGroots, the original Others and the rest of dharma (perhaps even meet Rousseau when she crashes) through the natural course of time (from their perspective) so there will be no need for "flashbacks". How many more days do I have to wait? I'm on tenterhooks.
DUDE... by TheFutureDirector	Dec 31st, 2008 05:41:15 AM
Here I am, rewatching previous episodes on ABC, and during the one in season two where Sun finds out she's pregnant, the box holding the pregnancy test says "Widmore Labs." Did creators C & C have the Widmore angle figured out that early? Am I reaching? God, I love this show.
Yeti.... by meCPS	Dec 31st, 2008 07:07:16 AM
As I stated in yesterday's talkback, LOST had no need to "redeem" itself last year. It's always been the best show on TV since it's premiere. QUIT HATING ON S3!
I ask also... by yanksno1	Dec 31st, 2008 08:00:09 AM
Per enderandrew's question, but are these ep's any good? Good to hear about 24's opening nights being swell though.
FROGURT?!!! by HoboCode	Dec 31st, 2008 08:14:15 AM

Flashback & Flashforwards by 4we8have15to16go23back42	Dec 31st, 2008 09:12:33 AM
Darlton said no more Flashbacks in Season 4 and we still got the Juliet Flashback in The Other Woman and the the Jin Half Flashback in Ji Yeon. So Darlton says no more Flashes, but I would bet that thats over all and that they mix it up one episode this season to supprise us and keep us off guard. They have stated that one of that pre-strike things that were cut was more back story on some of the four frighter people so somehow were going to get their story. I know that they said that Danielles story would be finally told in real time since the island is continually jumping from time to time, but for the freighties I would guess that you would need a flashback.
TheFutureDirector by ElPaw	Dec 31st, 2008 09:13:11 AM
Widmore Labs also sponsored Henry Gale's balloon (Lockdown), and Widmore Construction was redeveloping a power plant in the background of the diapers commercial Charlie was filming (Fire+Water).
Heres something to pass the time until Jan 21st by 4we8have15to16go23back42	Dec 31st, 2008 09:13:54 AM
http://lostroom23.blogspot.com /
Another Flashback by 4we8have15to16go23back42	Dec 31st, 2008 09:16:09 AM
Plus Cabin Fever had a Locke Flashback. SO just because Darlton says no more Flashes doesn't actually mean no more Flashes
FUCKING LOST IS FUCKING BACK!!!!! by Turd Furgeson	Dec 31st, 2008 09:29:15 AM
3 more fucking weeks! Damn what are we going to do when this show is over?? Really, network TV is almost completely unwatchable now. Even 2nd tier shows like Terminator or LIFE don't hold a candle to the dramatic tension and awesomeness that LOST and 24 bring...
boogalooshrimp... by NeoMyers	Dec 31st, 2008 09:48:31 AM
I LOVE Lost, don't get me wrong. But there has been only one show crafted by Gods and that show was The Wire. Lost was crafted by a angels or elves or something really good, but not Godly. I still get mad thinking about that Lost S2 ep. "The Hunting Party" when Tom says, "This is our island and the only reason you're living on it is cause we let you." My response (and probably anyone else's)? "OK. Great. We didn't ask to be on this fuckin' island. So you can have it and you can give us a boat so we can get the fuck off then." That's what he SHOULD have said, but instead he whined and bitched and pulled his usual Jack dipshit moves. But I love Lost anyway. Just not as much as The Wire. Omar would run that fuckin' island.
The island has to be a spaceship ... doesn't it? by unfaithfullyyours	Dec 31st, 2008 10:00:13 AM
A ship that crashed years and years and years and years ago, and for some reason, uh, floats? Then tress and whatnot grew up on it and made it look like an island. No? Alright, maybe not. But how the fuck does an island time travel? I'll be watching!
NeoMyers: Agreed that the Wire is pretty fantastic by Stormwatcher	Dec 31st, 2008 10:03:04 AM
and Omar is probably the most satisfying character ever conceived on television but and understand I am the biggest Wire cheerleader I know, Lost just gets me hooked like a crack junky. The Wire I like to let breathe, I;ll watch five episodes then take a couple of months break, go back finish the season ect... I haven't watched the last 5 eps as I am so sad its over I can't bear to do it. Lost though, man, I guess its cuz its escapism. I understand the hate people have for Jack and I am sadly, a big Jack defender, I love that he's a flawed, can't let go, can't accept defeat kinda guy, Jack Bauer is flawless, he can shake addition in 2 hours and can get over Chinese torture programming in 20 minutes but Jack really never changes which is more realistic cuz people never really change. And Locke is so freaking heart breaking, I don't care that he went from tough to whimp cuz I believe that a guy like that, the longer you spend with him, the longer you know him, the more you realize its an act and he is just wanting to be loved, as gay as that sounds. But yeah, McNulty, Omar, Marlo, Bunk, pretty much every black actor on the Wire are note perfect Dickens quality greatness.
Stormwatcher: I'm a big Locke fan by NeoMyers	Dec 31st, 2008 10:09:24 AM
...which is why Jack pisses me off so much. If Jack would have listened to Locke even 50% of the time, I don't think everyone would be dead and split up and all messed over. Not to say that Locke has made all the right moves, like ALLEGEDLY blowing up the submarine (I still think he faked it somehow). It might just be the case that Terry O'Quinn is the better actor, but I find Locke fascinating. I freaked out when I saw that he's in the coffin. I just hope there's some kind of resurrection when they bring him back. And if a whole island can be transported in time, why can't it bring someone back to life?
Island moving... by scrivener	Dec 31st, 2008 12:11:55 PM
I've been saying the island can move through space and time since halfway through season 2 (we were given hints that things we saw on the island disappeared in different places around the globe). So yeah, there's the catch.
I want to be watching this... NOW!!!! by picardsucks	Dec 31st, 2008 12:30:16 PM

Gimme Rousseau by Smokezilla	Dec 31st, 2008 12:36:29 PM
...and I want it NOW! Okay, maybe after the first two kick-ass season premiere episodes but still. At first, I was so afraid Darlton would fuck up the format now that we've reached a stable point (more or less) in time. Guess what? Not only are we getting a Rousseau flashback - we're getting it in real fuckin' time! Man, if ABC isn't on their knees sucking some cocks right now...
Have a series recording on the DVR... by Jaka	Dec 31st, 2008 01:41:03 PM
...as G4 has been running the series from ep 1 to current (or at least the end of season 3 - not sure yet). I have to admit that I like it more now, or maybe hate it less. I really loved season 1, really hated season 2, kinda hated season 3 and enjoyed season 4 but didn't love it again. I seem to have settled into a more general like of the entire series after having the opportunity to watch in all again in chronological order. I still fully expect and X-Files ending, where everything doesn't get explained and the answers we do get don't fully satisfy. But I'll admit I'm looking forward to seeing that end now.
Lost Online Poll by DeeJay	Dec 31st, 2008 01:48:18 PM
I don't know if this link (http://www.paleycenter.org/lo st-without-lost) will go through, or if this has already been reported, but the Paley Center (in NY) is conducting a poll of favorite "Lost" episodes. My guess is that "The Constant" and "Walkabout" will be the top 2--- though the series opener probably has as good a chance as any other single episode.
Just saw the Ep where they... by Jaka	Dec 31st, 2008 01:53:02 PM
...bury Nikki and Paulo alive again. Maybe not the best ep of Lost, but definitely one of the best endings to any network tv show, ever!
Jaka... by meCPS	Dec 31st, 2008 02:14:44 PM
I've been rewatching on G4 as well, and can tell you that my channel guide info runs far enough ahead that they WILL be showing S4. unfortunately, due to them not showing an episode a day (as was their regular schedule) for these two holiday weeks, they will not get through S4 in time for the ABC start of S5. I wish I had caught this sooner, as I could have DVR'd SciFi's 4 episodes every Monday starting last week, which has somehow inexplicably jumped ahead of G4's schedule, even though they were running way behind G$ only a few weeks ago. Anyway, since you don't seem to have the same love for the show that I do (another damn S3 hater is what you are....) you probably won't mind a gap in that season. So if you get SciFi Channel, just start watching/recording on Monday nights. It looks like they will get through the 16 episode S4 in time for the S5 premiere.
yawn...did i just yawn? by ls420	Dec 31st, 2008 02:24:29 PM
i loved this show, but I dont have the connection to it like in the past..i think its the long breaks in between..
Thanks meCPS by Jaka	Dec 31st, 2008 02:27:44 PM
My DVR is actually set to record all eps of the show on all channels, I've just been deleting those not on G4. I'll definitely pay more attention now as it was my hope to get the entire series in before S5 started. I may end up loving the show again - I'm still not sure. I was a RABID fan during season one, but it was actually season two that earned my all out hatred. It was just a HUGE let down to me. S3 was actually a little better, but I think I was still recovering from my S2 hatred so I didn't give it a completely fair chance. I came back on board more with S4 and was pretty much loving it again by the end of that season. Like I said, I'm coming around a bit now with getting the chance to watch the entire series in order. I still think they wussed out on a few plot points/characters (such as, I believe hearing that the numbers will never be explained - they spent way to much time on that if that turns out to be true). And yeah, what's with the no ep everyday on G4 right now? That totally bummed me out.
lol Mr. Zeddemore by Jaka	Dec 31st, 2008 02:35:10 PM
Exactly! That STILL annoyed me on re-watching! Did they explain it in the webisodes then? Unfortunately, I think, I haven't watched ANY of those. Anybody know if they're on the DVDs? I think I'm going to go ahead and purchase them at some point. I borrowed them once before but I was still too angry to get through them, so I gave them back.
Jaka, I just remembered... by meCPS	Dec 31st, 2008 02:53:03 PM
I'm pretty sure that ABC.com still has every episode available online...if you can stand to watch on a monitor. (Not a problem for my friend who has an internet connection hooked up to his 60" plasma screen. Oh the jealousy....)
the numbers by HoboCode	Dec 31st, 2008 02:54:47 PM
They explained the numbers in the first ARG, but those aren't canon so we don't know if the explanation is true or not. and would you rather they not develop ana-lucia and then kill her off?
Season 4 dvd has the mobisodes. by HoboCode	Dec 31st, 2008 02:55:30 PM

HoboCode, meCPS by Jaka	Dec 31st, 2008 03:05:43 PM
Well, lets be honest, they HAVE done that with other characters. But no, I would rather they didn't kill her off at all, or explain why it was necessary. Again, maybe all this will make sense by the end of the series, but I doubt it. Thanks for the heads up on the mobisodes (why are they called that instead of webisodes? and what ar ARGs? sorry if I loose geek cred for both of those questions) And thanks again meCPS. I have a 21" HD monitor, so it's not a problem at all if I need to finish up S4 that way.
Jaka by Taklamakan	Dec 31st, 2008 03:58:12 PM
"mobisodes" are named thus because they were originally a sponsered deal with Verizon I think, and they were delivered to your mobile device (phone, pda, etc). "ARG"s are the online puzzle games the show has during the season breaks. Clues to start them were featured in mock ads that ran during the final few episodes on ABC each season. People followed these clues online to websites that had puzzle games that gave tidbits of info upon completion. Not sure what "ARG" actually stands for.
I haven't seen the mobisodes by Monkey Butler	Dec 31st, 2008 04:17:00 PM
But the new guy's gotta be Razinsky, the guy who was in the Hatch with Kelvin who killed himself. We haven't actually seen him, but he's been referenced since S2, and it would make sense if the island's moved back in time. About the island moving in time, I have a pretty big problem with that. I'm no scientist, but surely if the island moved in time there'd be an overlap, because they'd both be occupying the same spacetime. We saw the island disappear, which means that it was physically (not the right word, but you get what I mean) moved, so where exactly did it go? This isn't something like when Desmond's consciousness went back in time, this is an island, with people and buildings and stuff on it. Not to mention the fact that if there are two overlapping islands existent in the past, only the 'past' island should disappear when Ben throws the switch - the 'future' island should still be there. Maybe I need a physicist to explain all this, because it sure as hell doesn't make sense to me.
Time Travel by 4we8have15to16go23back42	Dec 31st, 2008 04:23:48 PM
Actaually it is the same thing as Desmonds Time Travel. When his current soul went back in time to his past body the past soul was there in his body and somehow the two exsisted at the same time.
Let's make sure you all got the point of Season 4 by Dapper Swindler	Dec 31st, 2008 04:24:47 PM
I feel like the message of Season 4 was Lost on some people. The show was about Jack vs Locke. Jack's science vs Locke's faith. Their constant debate back and forth. It finally culminated in the greenhouse. They finally agreed to disagree but Locke told Jack about the lie he had to keep if he left the island. Now, we found out who won the debate that the whole show was built around - Locke. When Jack saw that island vanish before his eyes he realized he was wrong. He did a complete 180. He realized Locke was right all along. The first thing he said after that was that we have to lie - just as Locke instructed. And when Locke visited him as Jeremy Bentham - that really messed him up. Jeremy said bad things happened on the island because he left. And now Jack believed every word of it. That's why he felt they had to go back. Because he believes Locke now. The island vanishing was a huge turning point for Jack.
Fanboys by 4we8have15to16go23back42	Dec 31st, 2008 04:33:58 PM
I find EvilWizardGlick's comment hilarious. Not the comment itself but what saying it says about him and his need to brag about his so called accomplishments. He brags about having Sex with tons of women, but I'd like to see him act like a real man and stay in a committed relationship over a long period of time. Usually when someone brags like that its to compensate for something that they lack in their life. I feel sorry for you EvilWizardGlick.
Jack vs Locke by 4we8have15to16go23back42	Dec 31st, 2008 04:37:26 PM
Although Darlton has said that after the OC 6 left the island that Locke & Jack would be switching roles a little. Locke will begin doubting and Jack will start showing faith in the island while trying to return.
RE: ElPaw by TheFutureDirector	Dec 31st, 2008 04:38:18 PM
Wow... I knew there was a reason I was rewatching all the episodes. Also, anyone watching the little "Dharma Access" interviews that C & C have been sending out? Not much for new information, but little tidbits are being hinted at. It's also strange how for such a melodramatic show (which I say with the best intention), these guys are joke-city--they'd be great drinking buddies. After tenth drink: "Oy, yeah, [insert standing mystery they'll never explain]... what the fuck happened there?" And for the record, LOST has officially taken my AintitCool talkback virginity. Strange feeling.
Dapper Swindler, 4we8have, and time travel by Jaka	Dec 31st, 2008 04:42:16 PM
Interesting, both points. As a big, big, BIIIIIIG Star Trek fan, I have to say I'm always nervous about time travel plots and generally, I think most fail. Dapper, I got most of that while watching, but not all of it - very nice insight. So, if the island went back in time, and that's what happened to Des as well, does that mean that everyone will have "glimpses"? That would be pretty weak sauce. Even if those remaining on the island had awareness of said movement, still weak sauce. I don't really see a problem with those off the island knowing the island moved. But did it really go back in time? Did Des? I've always assumed that Des just, ya know, teleported or something (which is to say, moved). As you can see, I'm not a religious viewer, and I'm definitely learning more than I ever did before during my currect re-watching of the show.
Jaka by Dapper Swindler	Dec 31st, 2008 04:55:56 PM
Yeah, the framing of stories on Lost has always been incredible. In the Season 3 finale, you see Jack all messed up and saying we need to go back, but you don't know why. Through the S4 flash forwards, you start to get an idea. Seeing his dad's ghost, issues with Hurley, issues with Kate. But none of that really explains why he needs to go back and what would really mess him up so badly. It isn't until the S4 finale that you get the final pieces - the conversation with Locke at the greenhouse, the island vanishing, and Locke in the coffin (and what Locke told Jack). Like you said I'm not really revealing anything you didn't already know, just clarifying it. What's great about Lost is sometimes you know the answers before you KNOW the answers. Then when you rewatch it, all the subtle things start making sense.
I'm a pretty big Lost fan, and... by DarthCorleone	Dec 31st, 2008 05:06:36 PM
...I have no idea what a "mobisode" is. Have I been missing something important on the fancy internet?
Bentham vs. Jack by DisneyFanatic	Dec 31st, 2008 05:14:06 PM
I CANNOT WAIT until we get to see that conversation went down. I don't care that every little aspect of the conversation has been told to us via other scenes, but I do really want to see that scene nonetheless.
Mobisodes are very important by Dapper Swindler	Dec 31st, 2008 05:39:58 PM
The first few are pretty worthless, even just to see the acotrs. Jack's watch? Frogurt and Hurey? Those were bad. But they gradually got better and better until they started showing some very important stuff. Juliet talking about Walt. Ben and Jack. And the very last one, Vincent's mobisode may be the most important 10 seconds of Lost you can watch right now - serously. Go watch it now.
So can someone post this episode on Bit Torrent? by Mahaloth	Dec 31st, 2008 07:28:45 PM
Please?
I own a screwdriver set by bellwether	Dec 31st, 2008 07:48:34 PM
And not only have I operated a circular saw, but I am still in possession of all my digits. I still like Lost though.
What moved the island by RenoNevada2000	Dec 31st, 2008 10:14:15 PM
In an upcoming episode we will learn the the Island is powered by a large golden all and controlled by a blond, long-haired cowboy by the name of Bly...
Happy New Year to all of you. by gotilk	Dec 31st, 2008 10:55:11 PM
May your next year be full of mystery, questions (some of them answered? maybe?) and time travel. Well, maybe not that last part. It can get messy. But may your next year be a happy and fruitful one. And if a bug-eyed stranger tells you you must return to the island, just go. Get on with it. You know he's gonna get his way eventually.
I read the first sentence and that was enough by GimpInMyPants	Dec 31st, 2008 11:02:30 PM
I've waited 8+ months. I can wait a little longer.
Mobisodes were on ABC.com before S4 by bah	Dec 31st, 2008 11:34:22 PM
They're still there: http://abc.go.com/primetime/lo st/missingpieces/index To Glick: I watch the show with my wife and I talk about the show the next day with the people at my job. I'm sorry you're incapable of such rudimetary muitasking.
Can't wait... by wacko3205	Jan 1st, 2009 03:30:10 PM
I've Youtubed myself to death watching all the exclusive sneak peeks & I can not wait!!! So...seeing as how the island has moved in time...I wonder if we'll be seeing alot of oldies but deadies walking around? I could swear that I saw Ethan (kidnapped Aarron) pointing a gun at Locke who was lying on the ground...I could be wrong...but check out the sneaks on Season 5 @ Youtube & someone tell me if they think it's him too. You'll have to search them out from trailer to trailer to see if you can spot it.
wacko.... by meCPS	Jan 1st, 2009 04:18:53 PM
Will Mathoper (Ethan) is listed as appearing in the first couple episodes, so you probably did see him. Also, I suspect that the major detail about the island moving in time (mentioned in the invisotext) is that the island did not move to a specific time, but is now moving in time. That would explain why the commercial teasers have shown us not only old-time DHARMA people (circa 30 years ago) but also the Nigerian drug plane almost running down Locke (a much more recent event in the island's history). It also should silence the haters who found the "frozen donkey wheel" device a ridiculous way to "move the island". I finally realized what it reminded me of....it's excatly the kind of apparatus that an old ship would employ to wind up the anchor chain. Ben has, in effect, hoisted the isldnad's temporal anchor, and set it adrift in time. Probably the amin reason it will be so hard to get back.
torrents torrents torrents !!! by dj_bollocks	Jan 2nd, 2009 12:45:10 PM
now now NOW ! please
meCPS... by wacko3205	Jan 2nd, 2009 07:16:49 PM
Yep. I doubled up & checked the previews again & it is indeed him...personally...I think that's gonna be one of the more fantastic aspects of the show. It'd be nice if they essentially gave them all shots at redemption...Others, Tailies, & the Beach bodies. Already know that Anna Lucia's coming back somehow...Libby too...& I can't wait to find out just what the hell is up with Jack's pappy in full & am really REALLY hoping that he's either part of or a financial backer/founder of the Initiative. I'm often amazed at how fickle the fans of the show can be. At the end of every season I've been going back through the episodes & the mobi-sodes & trying to piece a bulk of questions together...& I'm still amazed at how the show flows so well. The FDW was indeed the shit & I felt like it was also a bit similar to part of a ship or something that you'd see a bunch of slaves (ala the Black Rock) powering & by the middle of the season I think that things are gonna get a lot more interesting as far as the ole' boat & what not goes. I really think that Richard is going to end up being an integral part of the mythology & will probably be one of the stranded Black Rockers or something of the sort. I'd love it if the journal was written by him or if he's a Hanso decendent or something of the sort. The journal's gonna end up being something serious I think...the one that Widmore spent the bank on. Gotta say in the end that Jack, Ben, Dez, & Richard are what do it for me the most on the show. I'll be shocked if it all doesn't boil down to Jack being the caretaker of the dirt in the end...truthfully...I'd be damned disappointed if it were otherwise...that being said...I won't lump myself into fickleness by honoring a statement like that. Let the chips fall where they may & I'll be happy.
But wouldn't the island... by Kid Z	Jan 3rd, 2009 10:28:25 AM
...materialize at the same time as it's future version and explode? Or does the island sort of exist out-of-phase with the rest of the world?
Turbine Suck Guy's Flashback... by Kid Z	Jan 3rd, 2009 10:31:29 AM
...Jack: Hey! Watch out! Turbine Suck Guy: What? Ahhhhh-* (Whirrr-RRRRRRrrr! BOOM!)
SPOILER--Credits for first six episodes by godric	Jan 3rd, 2009 10:43:33 AM
So...over on imdb they have the cast listings for the first six episodes. I know imdb can be notoriously incorrect on these things, but some interesting things do pop up: Episode 1--Frogurt IS in the cast list Episodes 4-5: Rousseau appears in 4, and in 4 and 5 an actress plays "Young Daniel Rousseau." Episode 6: We have supposed appearances by both Matthew Abaddon and Walt. Not listed is whatever former despised cast member redeems his or herself in episode 1. All that to say: CAN't WAIT!
wacko3205 by 4we8have15to16go23back42	Jan 3rd, 2009 11:26:57 AM
I read some spoiler that said the Ana Lucia does find redemption and shes fairly likeable in her episode 2 camio. I also read a quote from Darlton where they unfortunatly said that Libby's story was finished and wouldn't get told!?!?! If they hold to that its going to suck. But oh well.
My ten favorite LOST episodes... by JackIsLost	Jan 4th, 2009 08:29:04 PM
1. “Through the Looking Glass” – Season 3 finale 2. “Pilot” – Season 1, Episode 1 3. “The Constant”, Season 4, Episode 5 4. “Walkabout” – Season 1, Episode 4 5. “The Brig” – Season 3, Episode 19 6. “There’s No Place Like Home” – Season 4 finale 7. “Lockdown” – Season 2, Episode 17 8. “The Man Behind the Curtain” – Season 3, Episode 20 9. “Exodus” – Season 1 finale 10. “Confidence Man” – Season 1, Episode 8 And the one (and only) episode that I hate is... "Stranger in a Strange Land" - Season 3, Episode 9: There were many mysteries I wanted answers to but how Jack got his tattoos (especially since I know they are just Matthew Fox's real tattoos) was not one of them.
I'm really curious as to why everyone thinks Valenzetti Equation by Ravetin	Jan 4th, 2009 10:35:03 PM
..."explains" the Numbers. It may shed new light on the "power" -- I guess you could call it -- that they have. But the VE is like saying Hurley winning the lottery "explains" the numbers, the equation just seems like one more manifestation of the Numbers, and the truth behind them is something much higher up. I honestly don't think we'll ever get a concrete explanation answer of what they are. I think the best we'll ever get is someone finally making a comment that 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, and 42 seem to pop up a lot and that we'll never know what that means. I could be wrong though, it seemed like they had almost completely abandoned the Numbers the second S2 ended, but then they brought them all back in the S4 finale.
Lost and the Space-Time continuum. by greenstyle92	Jan 5th, 2009 12:06:33 PM
I love lost talkbacks. They are my favorite ones. I love the big ideas spewed forth in them to explain things. Now, I haven’t been keeping up with spoilers or previews. I prefer to go in “fresh.” But, some of the things I’ve been reading, (seeing Dharma guys alive again, seeing the drug plane crash) reminds me of something I learned in College a few years ago regarding the relationship of Space and Time from an organizational stand point and how they may once have been the same thing. Okay, to understand this, let’s talk about how “space” and “time” are different in how the organize points. We’ll use three points: A,B,and C. In “Time,” 3 points, A, B, and C, are organized in a strictly sequential manner. Think of 3 days. Monday MUST come first, the Tuesday MUST follow, then Wednesday MUST follow after that. It is impossible to mix up the order, and have Tuesday come before Monday. It is impossible to have the points go B, A, C, or C, B, A or C, A, B, or what have you. It must be A, B, C. It must be Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Right? Now let’s think about “Space.” Three points in Space. A, B, and C. In space, A, B, and C are NOT strictly sequential. Think of three lawn chairs you’ve arranged in a triangle in your backyard, and have labeled A, B, and C. They exist simultaneously, and you are not bound to sit in them in the strict A, B, and C order. You could, but you could just as easily sit in them in B, A, C, or C, B, A, or C, A, B, or what have you. Spatially, there is no first, or last, or specific order. It could be in any order. Thus, the difference between Space and Time. Time is arranged sequentially, and Space is arranged, well, spatially. But here’s where things get interesting. It is theorized that Space and time did not fully form at the instant of the big bang. True, Space and time did become fully formed very quickly after the big bang, (less than one second,) but there was a brief moment after the big bang before Space and Time were fully formed. In that moment, there was something known as “Space-Time,” or Time and Space were essentially the same thing. What exactly does that mean? It might mean that “Time” behaved more like “Space.” As in, Time didn’t have a strict sequential order. Points A, B, and C all existed in Time simultaneously, but could be visited or perceived or what have you out of order, allowing for B, A, C and the others to be possible. Tuesday, then Monday then Wednesday. You could experience these days in any order you wished. (well, theoretically. Again, this state existed for less than one second.) But I always thought it was a neat idea and would make for a great science fiction story, if someone could make time behave like space again. And I think that’s what lost may be doing on the island. How would this work? These previews seem to be giving some idea. You could “travel through time” as easily as you could walk across your yard. In the one sense, as you walk across the island, you may see different parts of it in different times. You could see the Black Rock runaground, (however THAT happened,) you could walk and see Dharma at it’s height, you could catch Rousseau giving birth, and all that. Still though, that’s a simplistic way of viewing it. That’s like saying all the key moments in the Island’s history happen simultaneously in Space-Time. No. ALL moments of the island’s history would happen in space time. You could walk up to the Dharma initiative site and see it in full swing. You could walk up to it again and see it ruined. You could walk up to it again and see it as it was before Dharma came to the island. (One wonders if there’s a way to “will” what time frame you are viewing and area.) Then there’s the matter that causality as we know it would begin to break down. In Time, it’s not just that A happens then B happens then C happens. It’s also that A causes B and B causes C. In the merged Space-Time though, where Time is like Space, this would get wacky. A would still cause B and B would still cause C, but it’s possible that C could then in turn cause A, and C could Influence B, and B causes C AND A. The Drug plane could directly influence Dharma. Dharma could meddle with the Black Rock. The Black Rock could shelter (or harm) Roussue. There are many and varied weirdness associated with this. And what about death? Would the effect bring the “dead” back to life? Well, Yes and No. It would make “Death” less meaningful at least. Let’s think about Ana Lucia. She died. In Space-Time, she would still die at the moment Michael shot her, which we’ll call point D, (D for Death.) She still dies at point D. But, the frame of time she was on the Island and alive would be more meaningful. Because, during that time, she could experience things before point D, (A, B, C) and experience things AFTER point D, (E, F, G, etc.) From a continuity stand point, it would seem as though people don’t die or come back after they die, but in actuality no true Lazarus-esque resurrection has taken place. Anyway, if this is the direction Lost is going in, well, that seems pretty cool. I may repost this after the premier in that talkback if I deem it still relevant.
Valenzetti Equation does not explain the Numbers by Dapper Swindler	Jan 5th, 2009 07:41:06 PM
I would be very disappointed if that's all the explanation we get.
Ben and the Orchid by Youguysgotanymilk	Jan 6th, 2009 11:46:17 AM
Based on the previews they have shown and the fact that we see Dharma people and Yemmi's plane it appears (as mentioned above) that the island is jumping around and not just staying in one time. This could be cause by when Ben threw all the metal junk into the machine in the Orchid even after the video told him not to. Maybe the donkey wheel moves the island to a specific time but Ben fried its circuts by throwing that metal stuff in, causing the time travel device to be an the fritz. Now basically, we will be getting a sort of "Greatest Hits" of Lost events played out in real time. My hopes are for the purge, the hostiles, the building of the statue, Radzinsky, etc. There are so many events I would like to see.
libby by BigTexas42	Jan 6th, 2009 12:55:45 PM
I'm pretty sure on the directors commentary of the s4 finale, carlton said libby's story would be told, but through other people. or maybe i'm wrong again.
oh yeah... by BigTexas42	Jan 6th, 2009 12:56:05 PM
hook 'em
someone must have capped these ? by dj_bollocks	Jan 7th, 2009 05:26:00 AM

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