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Capone unleashes his Best and Worst of 2008 lists!!!

testing 1 2 3 by xega	Dec 30th, 2008 10:51:25 AM
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2nd first??? by Skin26	Dec 30th, 2008 10:51:46 AM
Hmmmmm?
Nooooooooooooo by Skin26	Dec 30th, 2008 10:52:37 AM
Scotland i have failed thee !!!!. Anyway interesting lists Capone, I cannot wait to see The wrestler and Button
THE FALL? by IAmMrMonkey!	Dec 30th, 2008 10:54:21 AM
No way should that yawnfest be in anyone's top ten!! I'm stunned.
Hey Capone . . . Almost forgot . . . by Skin26	Dec 30th, 2008 10:55:00 AM
Righteous Kill and DTESS tied with shitters such as "The Crappening" and the aptly titled Disaster movie?? Cmon !!!! ????
speed racer? by logicalnoise01	Dec 30th, 2008 11:00:19 AM
pasta mothefucking cristo what is with all the hate? You ranked fucking disaster movie higher than speed racer, meet dave, meet the spartans? All souless fucking commercial dreck not even worth seeing on a fucking shelf muchless on a 12 inch TV. Seriously capone if you were dissappointed with speed racer fine but If you honestly think speed racer is a bigger travesty than thsoe movies then will fuck you. Chicago area citzen signing off.(PS I don't care if I ever get selected for one of your advanced screenings your choice reaks of wrong).
GET OFF SPEED RACER'S NUTS by kgerm	Dec 30th, 2008 11:01:47 AM
This was totally not the worst movie of 2008. Almost everything on that list puts the suck of Speed Racer to shame. The Love Guru or Meet The Spartans, anyone? Credit where credit's due; it's a live action cartoon. It never tried to be anything else. And the racing and effects are some of the most gorgeous around. Maybe the backgrounds suck, but don't tell me those cars don't feel completely real. I never once doubted they were in those cars. And yes, Capone. I've watched it over and over and over again.
After seeing it on DVD by skimn	Dec 30th, 2008 11:02:02 AM
I thought, So this is two-plus hours of chocolate covered pussy juice??? After the last Matrix and now Speed Racer, the Wach Bros may be the emperors with no clothes. Time to strip the budget, toss the digital, and go back to the "Bound" roots before its too late.
addendum by logicalnoise01	Dec 30th, 2008 11:04:25 AM
just to clarify on my tastes, honestly I agree with your top 30, for the ones I've seen(11 out of the 30 I'm seeing the wrestler tonight) they feel about where they should be. I mean if it was just your biggest dissappointment I get it.
Speed Racer is my best film of the year. by NinjaRap	Dec 30th, 2008 11:05:05 AM
It's groundbreaking in the world it creates and the feel it provides. The performances are obviously done with love for the material and it offers a visual spectacular that is not without a real heart and genuine emotion. This is how classic anime becomes "live-action anime," and grows up to appeal to all audiences in the process. Sadly, it seems it's a love-it or hate-it movie, and there is no in-between.
Katrina + Ben Button pisses off New Orleans. And Forrest Gump. by esbern	Dec 30th, 2008 11:06:02 AM
I've lived here my entire life (33 years)and know this city better than anybody on this site. The Katrina subplot was pointless, and pissed everybody in my theatre off. Additionally, how could nnobody realize the fact thatthe movie was a complete ripoff of Forrest Gump. Go read the original short and you can spot what was tacked onto the movie (hint: everything). I mean, handicapped kid goes through his life stories while holding love for a girl that saw through his problems at a young age. Oh, and then there is same time period, happens in the south, falls head over heals into money, grows up in a house full of a bunch of goofy characters (Elvis>Lightning Bolt Face), both see war, both lose the love of their life, raised primarily by a mother figure, etc. etc. Complete shitfest of a movie.
ninjarap by logicalnoise01	Dec 30th, 2008 11:08:33 AM
ditto except I can't say it's my number 1 but everyone who I know has seen it enjoyed it. hell two of them were gear heads(one an actual mechanic who works on teh pro circuit for pontiac) and they enjoyed the movie immensely.
Ninja Rap by skimn	Dec 30th, 2008 11:09:59 AM
I believe you're right. Speed Racer is a movie that you can't simply kinda like, or kinda not like. I admired it for the world it created, but you could say that for all the Star Wars prequels also. That didn't make them better movies.
BEN BUTTON + KATRINA by kgerm	Dec 30th, 2008 11:14:01 AM
It's that whole "You never know what's coming for you." I never understood why it had to be set in Katrina until I formed my own opinion of it's ending -- when Daisy gets hit by the car it goes through this long protracted sequence of how if you'd done one thing differently everything would be different. I think Daisy was keeping her daughter there to read that book so that she could die in the flood with her, because whenever Caroline strayed she would bring her right back to it.
To people who put SPEED RACER on their Worst Lists... by Nordling	Dec 30th, 2008 11:18:02 AM
I hope you smell feet. Forever.
WTF kgerm???? + Speed Racer by The Drude	Dec 30th, 2008 11:21:40 AM
Spoiler Alert please??? Not everyone has seen the film yet! I personally think that Speed Racer was the most fun I've had in a theatre all year. Now, that's not saying it was the best film I saw, but it was a blast. I was able to accept it as a live-action cartoon, and the dialogue and backgrounds and everything else that people like to bitch about were what made the movie so special and different. I guess it's true that you either love it or hate it, but there's no way in hell it was worse than Meet The Spartans! Come on!
The Fall is overrated; Speed Racer is the worst by jimmy_009	Dec 30th, 2008 11:22:00 AM
I still can't figure out why The Fall is on some people's Top Ten list. I turned it off about 3/4 of the way through. When I've invested that much time into a movie and still don't care to see it through, it's bad. It's lots of shiny images posing as an emotional story. The director should stick to music videos and commercials. As for Speed Racer, it's complete eye rot garbage, like paying to watch someone play F-Zero. SR and The Fall were the two movies I didn't finish this year, but SR got pulled before the halfway point.
BENJAMIN BUTTON is FORREST GUMP redux by YackBacker	Dec 30th, 2008 11:22:50 AM
Sorry, Capone, but I cannot praise a film that is a souped-up version of a previous movie (written by the same guy!). Let's get to the evidence: 1) Both Button and Gump are born with some handicap. 2) Both protagonists have wise old mommas that say shit like "You never know what you're gonna get" or "You never know what's comin'". 3) Both guys have lifelong crushes on girls they met when they were young (and handicapped). 4) Both girls (Daisy & Jenny) go off and slut of up for a few years. 5) The hummingbird v. the floating feather. 6) Adventures at sea- both guys run off to the ocean, and befriend salty sea capn's. 7) Both guys become rich by accident/consequence. 8) Both are worried that their offspring are going to be handicapped like they are. 9) Both have brushes with history. 10) Both protagonists are Southern. I'm sure there are other similarities I didn't mention. Eric Roth self-plagiarized his GUMP script for BUTTON. It's a fucking joke. I reject this movie on this basis alone.
Nordling by jimmy_009	Dec 30th, 2008 11:23:53 AM
Admit it to yourself. It's garbage.
Talking... by TheWacoKid	Dec 30th, 2008 11:24:00 AM
I ALWAYS say something when someone is talking and/or texting. I have never had someone come back at me. They have always stopped talking or put away their phone. If it is a crowded theatre, you might actually get applause for saying something. This is what happened during Superman Returns when a girl picked up her phone and talked LOUDLY. I agree with Capone, if you need to text or answer a phone during the 2 hours of the movie, DON'T GO TO THE MOVIE. We need to start doing something, because the theatre employees just don't care.
Can a film be on the same best and worst film list? by tonagan	Dec 30th, 2008 11:27:27 AM
Just wondering if there's a film where you could say "that was either the best film I've seen this year, or the worst". I like those kinds of films.
talking, cell phones, laser pointers by gotilk	Dec 30th, 2008 11:29:49 AM
all very annoying. HOWEVER, NOTHING is more annoying than the guy who makes an issue of it, loudly, interrupting more than just a few seconds of the film... instead being a loud, arrogant, annoying 15 to 20 minute distraction from the film because he can't shut the fuck up and suck it up. Instead, he spends his time (after the people have shut up, usually) lobbing popcorn at them, over your head, leaving everyone within 10 rows on guard, expecting a fistfight any minute. THAT guy needs to go the fuck away. And excuse me, I may be taking this a bit to seriously (yeah, me.. the guy criticizing the guy who brought a HANDGUN TO THE CINEMA.. yeah.. I'm taking it too seriously)... but who ruined the movie on Xmas night? The guy chatting it up with his kid, or the guy who FIRED LEAD!!?? Ok, I'm done with this. Yes, people who talk in theatres are annoying. I stopped seeing films in 2 theatres in Ontario, CA because of exactly that. Audiences full of people who just could not shut the hell up, stop taking calls or stop texting their friends. ( IM @ BTMN! JKR IS SCRY AS FCK! 4RLS!! 2 BAD HE DIDE! :( lol YsoSRS?? lol) But nothing is anywhere near as annoying as a fat inbred fuck who can't control himself. And what kind of coward shoots a man in front of his kid? They used to string guys up for that.
Speed Racer by The Funketeer	Dec 30th, 2008 11:30:09 AM
I can see how Speed Racer might not be everyone's cup of tea but I enjoyed it a lot and could see someone of the appropriate age group really getting into it. I don't see it as being anywhere near the worst movie of the year whether you liked it or not.
Capone is retarded!! by bubbatwo420	Dec 30th, 2008 11:30:16 AM
I'm officially pissed off that people are such Speed Racer haters. It was by far my favorite movie of the year and everyone i've talked to loves it. I watch it once a month and it gets better every time. From Michael Giacchino's score to the amazing visual's, this movie is the evolution of digital technology in cinema. I feel sorry for you Capone, wake up!!!
If you think Benjamin Button stole from Forest Gump... by IAmMrMonkey!	Dec 30th, 2008 11:32:59 AM
You're wrong. It stole from this http://tiny.cc/4LQGc I'm surprised there isn't a law suit.
Great list, though. by gotilk	Dec 30th, 2008 11:34:11 AM
Spot on, so far. I have yet to see quite a few on that list.
Quiet movies by OompahLoompah	Dec 30th, 2008 11:34:32 AM
In Wichita Ks the Warren theaters have placed a zero tolerance policy on cell phones in the movies. If it goes off or you are caught texting will be asked to leave with no refund. So far the policy has been effective in silencing chatty assholes in the theaters.
WTF "victim"??? by chutneylix	Dec 30th, 2008 11:36:32 AM
Listen I hate talkers in movie theaters too. I've even gone to certain movies alone to avoid any sort of distractions that may come from the people I usually go with. But WTF Capone, putting "victim" in quotes. Granted this guy is a douche but he is a victim, please do not justify a crackpot (first of all bringing a fucking gun into a theater) and then shooting a man in front of his son. I don't care how annoying he was being, a fucking 10 dollar movie, no matter how great, does not absolutely equal a man's life. And don't kid yourself that it was harmless. He could have. Do not put victim in quotations. It doesn't make you sound enlightened, its just an insult to yourself.
Dear Zachary by Big Bad Clone	Dec 30th, 2008 11:37:23 AM
Okay, I'll give you that it's engaging but the tone shifts from wacky to serious too often. So the serious stuff often seems trivialized to the point in which I can't ever see this kid watching this movie. "Hey, kid, your mom killed your dad AND she's a bitch [cue wacky sound]."
you could do much worse than Speed Racer by BMacSmith	Dec 30th, 2008 11:38:36 AM
not great, but not bad. I felt like it nailed what they were tring to do, and i'm a long time Wachoski Bro. hater anyway.
okay well I missed some words... by chutneylix	Dec 30th, 2008 11:39:16 AM
but you get my meaning. I just didn't expect this from Capone. Hate the douche all you want, ask for better disciplining by theater staff, but please please don't justify what that man did.
Well, IAmMRMonkey!, you may be right that Roth stole from others by YackBacker	Dec 30th, 2008 11:40:38 AM
Just reading the synopsis of "The Confessions Of Max Tivoli" on Amazon also reveals that this book comes after F. Scott Fitzgerald's "Button" was published. So, "Tivoli"'s author did steal from Fitzgerald too. But Roth is the lowest on the ladder of bottom-feeders.
I'm an idiot by Big Bad Clone	Dec 30th, 2008 11:40:42 AM
So, I watched the Dear Zachary movie when it was shown on MSNBC over and over again. Something came up and I missed the end. Which I just looked up. So ignore the stupid bullshit I wrote above.
I too love the Speed Racer... by Fuzzyjefe	Dec 30th, 2008 11:41:27 AM
and so do every one of my friends I've shown it to. It's just a light-hearted, old-fashioned good time at the movies. Cartoon made flesh (and cool digital backgrounds). The only thing that seperates Speed Racer from just about EVERY Pixar film is that they had REAL people populating the digital world instead of 1s and 0s. The message of family and self-worth is just as subtle in Speed Racer as it is in the almost universally-loved The Incredibles (which I too love). I understand taste is subjective, but I just feel bad for those who can't find the fun with the Racer family. Oh yeah, and Christina Ricci is soooo super-adorably sexy in that movie too.
esbern - button + katrina by ucla_sb	Dec 30th, 2008 11:44:03 AM
im going to see Button in a little while but i also was born and raised in NOLA and the idea of it doesnt piss me off slightly. If it pisses you off get used to it because im sure there will be deluge of films coming that have something to do with katrina. The one that pisses me off is the little kid who spent his teenage life being a thug and ripping people in new orleans off from robbing them and terrorizing them, well he stole a bus and evacuated the people in his projects. So a movie is being written to make him out to be a hero. One act of good does not repent a lifetime of nastiness on his part and now he will just be a rich, ignorant thug from new orleans, yay for him right? that pisses me off more than Roth using Katrina as his framing device for a film.
Go fuck yourself Capone, Speed Racer was great by drturing	Dec 30th, 2008 11:46:58 AM
harshly unduly panned cause every year there's a movie they gang up on. And Let the Right One In is way better than Benjamin Button - not as flashy, but better. The funniest thing about Benjamin Button is that the worst part of it is the script.
Speed Racer was the worst film of 2008? by Powers Boothe	Dec 30th, 2008 11:47:53 AM
With all due respect, I gotta say you're fucking insane for that opinion. Benjamin Button is one of those films that in a few years people are going say to themselves "what was all the fuss about?" Just as they did with Forrest Gump. Fincher must have been so pissed Zodiac was ignored by the Academy that he said to himself "You know what? the next one I do is gonna be a big fat piece of Oscar bait!" And before any of you say "You idiot, Fincher was working on Button long before Zodiac got dissed at the Oscars!", I'm just kidding.
OompahLoompah by gotilk	Dec 30th, 2008 11:49:07 AM
Sounds like THE solution. No handguns required. I mean, don't they already have stalkers with nightvision sneaking peeks at... I mean watching for video cameras already? Why not hire some bruisers and start booting people who take phone calls, text and talk loudly? But what do you do when there are around 20 percent of the audience doing it on a friday night in Southern California? Chances are, some of those wannabe upper-class suburban gangsters are as armed as our little inbred chubster was when he "defended" us all and became AICN hero of the moment. And probably with a better class of firearm. For the most part, I just stick to arthouse cinemas (dwindling) and daytime showings these days. Sad. Well, I guess I was wrong. I did have something else to say. Does anyone know if he asked the guy who was talking too much during the movie to squeal like a pig after he shot him? Or is that just a "family thing"?
No "The Spirit"? by ChildOfMen	Dec 30th, 2008 11:51:52 AM
That one really didn't make it in your worst list?
Whoa YackBacker by drturing	Dec 30th, 2008 11:52:49 AM
I only ever saw Forest Gump the one time and watching Benjamin Button I felt I was having deja vu all over again, but yeah, that's pretty damning. It's funny how they never explain in Benjamin Button why he is such an innocent simpleton with folksy charm who isn't dissuaded by any of the turmoil of history at the time. I think in years to come I'm going to think about Button: holy fuck that's some amazing cinematography tacked onto a godawful script.
The X-Files: I Want to Believe sucked the life out of me. by The Reluctant Austinite	Dec 30th, 2008 11:53:03 AM
I wanted to believe that new life could be injected into that series. Instead the nail was jammed into the coffin with a rocker launcher. That was my single most disappointing experience in a theater in 2008.
Great Lists! by Super Rabbi	Dec 30th, 2008 11:53:07 AM
I think The Fall is my favourite feature of the year, and American Teen would be my fav' documentary. Good stuff Capone!
Big Bad Clone by erichaislar	Dec 30th, 2008 11:54:10 AM
Did you see Dear Zachery? That kid your talking about is dead. The mother killed him too.
Is it unfair of me to say Benjamin Button is... by Powers Boothe	Dec 30th, 2008 11:54:44 AM
no better or worse than Francis Ford Coppola's film Jack starring Robin Williams, Diane Lane & Jennifer Lopez. The only difference is Coppola didn't have $150 million at his disposal.
WHAT ABOUT TRUMBO? by hauptman	Dec 30th, 2008 11:54:50 AM
I hope it's not on your documentary list because you didn't see it and not because you didn't want to include it.
Big Bad Clone by erichaislar	Dec 30th, 2008 11:55:27 AM
Sorry i see you corrected yourself. Glad you caught that.
Speed Racer by maxwell's hammer	Dec 30th, 2008 11:56:20 AM
Put me down for the "I LIKED IT" column. I would never recommend this movie to some of my friends, because its just too weird, but as a personal movie-watching experience, I loved it, and I absolutely felt like going to see it again. I kind of feel the same way about "Valkyrie" and "The X-Files", movies that critics began to have a little too much fun shitting on. Its gotten to be a fad with some movies. And: I saw Benjamin Button yesterday, and its a good, solid film, but not even in my top 10. Brad Pitt does some unquestionably interesting work in it though.
Speed Racer sucked ass. by HoboCode	Dec 30th, 2008 12:00:22 PM
That is all. Where's Eagle Eye on the best of list? Man that movie is underrated.
I really think a lot of folk are giving... by Powers Boothe	Dec 30th, 2008 12:01:57 PM
Benjamin Button a free pass 'cause it's directed by Fincher. What it have been THAT different a film if Penny Marshall made it? I'm sorry I keep ranting about this film but I honestly find the universal praise baffling.
I can understand someone not liking Speed Racer by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Dec 30th, 2008 12:05:30 PM
(although personally I loved it), but to say that Speed Racer is a worse movie than The Love Guru, The Women, What Happens In Vegas, Fool's Gold and 10,000 BC........well, you'd have to be a jerkoff.
Capone, you forgot Semi Pro and Sex and the Shitty by Kaiser Soze	Dec 30th, 2008 12:08:47 PM
In your worst list. Oh, yeah, and Step Brothers, too. I use to love Will Ferrell but I'm having a hard time remembering why (Til I pop in Anchorman, that is). Semi Pro AND Step Bros., two Ferrell flicks in the same year that I turned off after an hour without a genuine laugh. I got more laughs out of Meet the Spartans and I couldn't finish that pile of shrek shit either. And if you put Mummy 3 in the worst pile, why not Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Suck? That movie licked the Mummy 3's Yeti balls! As for the best, you put the Snoozefest the Fall in your top 10 and omitted Gran Torino completely? Man you must be smokin some real good shit out in Chi-town, because there's no way Tarsem beats Clint sober!
Button Is Also VERY Different Than Gump by SamuelLappDance	Dec 30th, 2008 12:10:54 PM
"Benjamin Button" is indeed the best film of the year. And there are many differences between it and "Forrest Gump." Off the top of my head: Button is not an idiot. He doesn't come close to any major historical event or figure (even his WWII battle is just a skirmish, at best). He doesn't pine for the same woman all his life, but instead shags many over the decades. He eventually comes to have a relationship with his father. The world is never made aware of his presence (by contrast, Gump is plastered all over newspapers and magazines). And from a purely thematic standpoint, "Gump" is framed and plotted to make you think and feel for the characters. "Button" is framed and plotted to make you and feel for yourself. His affliction is used as a mirror to explore the things we as a humanity have to deal over the course of a life ... aging, dying, surviving, dealing. I liked "Forrest Gump." I LOVED "Benjamin Button."
Speed Racer by skimn	Dec 30th, 2008 12:13:02 PM
You have to remember, outside of anime fanboys, SR had to have a low audience recognition factor going in. Outside of opening weekend, word of mouth had to carry it, of which it did not have enough. And I think Capone may be rating it "worst" because of expectation. Going in we knew Disaster Movie, Meet The Spartans, et all were garbage. But Speed Racer had the promise to be something great. I take it Capone felt it fell well below that standard.
Speed Racer is Fucking garbage, you go Capone by bullet3	Dec 30th, 2008 12:14:13 PM

skimm by logicalnoise01	Dec 30th, 2008 12:15:43 PM
then he's a fucking moron and mislabeld his list. "Not as good as I expected" it way different that "THE SUCKIEST SUCK FEST I EVER LAID EYES ON!"
Speedracer was a 5 on a scale of 1 to 10 by BMacSmith	Dec 30th, 2008 12:16:02 PM
i can think of many many movies that were worse.
SamuelLappDance, my problem with what you're saying is by YackBacker	Dec 30th, 2008 12:16:33 PM
You ignore the fact that Eric Roth LIFTED gimmicks from GUMP and used them directly in BUTTON. Sure, he spruced them up to look different, but the you can peel back a thin layer (Button is reverse-aging, Gump is an idiot, BOTH are handicapped youths) and see that Roth wrote the same movie all over again. It's lazy filmmaking. That's what bothers me the most- that people are hailing this "Oscar-bait" as something great. It's anything but great.
Criticizing Speed Racer for having wooden dialogue... by Sleeperkid	Dec 30th, 2008 12:18:16 PM
...is like dissing on the PHANTOM OF THE OPERA for being too singy-songy. It was a loud and visually explosive remake of a loud and visually explosive cartoon. And it worked. So stop feeling the need to bash it simply because the majority of this nation's critics weren't on enough mushrooms to enjoy it:-)
Indy IV by TheMcflyFarm	Dec 30th, 2008 12:18:57 PM
can't even make your top 30 of the year?!?! What is it with you people?!
And if you can't afford a babysitter... by gamerawangi	Dec 30th, 2008 12:19:53 PM
...please stay home with your shrieking child and wait for the damn movie to come out on DVD!
Speed Racer was decent. I gave it a 6.5/10. by Evangelion217	Dec 30th, 2008 12:22:04 PM
But "Jumper" sucked massive balls. Easily the worst film of 08. I gave it a 2/10.
that reminds me: Indy IV should be worst movie by BMacSmith	Dec 30th, 2008 12:25:12 PM
of the decade. Speedracer was nowhere near as bad as that piece of sHit.
Well, if we're going to rate a movie by expectation by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Dec 30th, 2008 12:25:52 PM
Then Indy 4 should be at the top of everyone's worst list. And Soze is right, what lunkheaded turd sniffer thinks that Mummy 3 was worse than Crystal Skull? Who gives magnetic gunpowder, A-bomb resistant Kenmores, "it falls thrice" and 100 m.p.h. vine swinging over field goal kicking Yetis and terra cotta armies? And Semi-Pro and SATC need to be on a worst of list too. Damn near the top even.
Cassandra's Dream was the very worst film... by Powers Boothe	Dec 30th, 2008 12:26:18 PM
of 2008. I want all of you to Netflix it then come back and tell me you agree.
My Best of '08'? BENJAMIN BUTTON by uberman	Dec 30th, 2008 12:28:08 PM
GReat movie. Made the time fly-most often at films I am looking at my watch and trying to deciede when to leave as to beat the rush. Go see BUTTON. It's terrific.
Capone... by rlabrana	Dec 30th, 2008 12:33:35 PM
...you talk about Speed Racer like a jilted lover.
it's obvious now... by logicalnoise01	Dec 30th, 2008 12:33:57 PM
capone could eitehr choose INDY IV or speed racer and since the wachowski's barely do set visits or interviews anywways he figured why piss off Speilberg or Lucas.
Capone, you condone shooting a man at a movie? by LoneGun	Dec 30th, 2008 12:35:15 PM
You condone shooting a man in front of his little boy, because they were talking? It certainly sounds like you do, by your words. I don't like disturbances during a movie, either, but this pulling a gun on a man is over the top, and so is your apparent approval of such an action. And who knows what the man and his son were talking about? I can imagine that a film like BENJAMIN BUTTON would be a bit puzzling to a little boy. Maybe the father was simply trying to explain to him why Brad Pitt's character was born with an old man's body. And maybe he was trying to do it quietly. You really feel for the guy who shot him? What kind of man are you?
CAPONE by timmer33	Dec 30th, 2008 12:35:26 PM
For the love of God, please count down to #1, don't give it up immediately.
My WORST for '08'? DOOMSDAY! by uberman	Dec 30th, 2008 12:35:41 PM
God Lord was this movie bad in so many ways. Just puke inducingly anal raping bad. The worst movie of the year.
I take it Capone you haven't seen Waltz With Bashir? by Levene	Dec 30th, 2008 12:36:04 PM
Cause surely no one who has can leave that of their best of list. Besides that, pretty agreeable list.
Speed Racer by Toonol	Dec 30th, 2008 12:37:44 PM
Is the movie you got the most wrong. It should be in the top 5.
Put me down as a Speed Racer fan by rhcp2sweet	Dec 30th, 2008 12:40:06 PM
I really do love the movie and think Capone is way off on this one. I've seen the movie three times (once in theaters, twice on DVD) and I've found something new to love each time. It's a great flick that will be recognized more as time goes on, unlike Button and Indy 4.
I had chili for lunch. by Godovhellfire	Dec 30th, 2008 12:40:23 PM

Button was very good, but not great... by MeGaMaWaX	Dec 30th, 2008 12:44:22 PM
I saw Benjamin Button the other day, and I enjoyed it a great deal for most of its run time, but near the end it cheated. They completely glossed over the last 13-15 years of Button's life, and the dimentia thing was a complete cop-out. One other thing - he was a baby twice. He started off as a old baby, grew so that he had a kid brain in an old man body and ended up with a baby brain in a baby body. He should have ended up with an old man brain in a child's body and eventually winded down into a baby. This is the only thing the F. Scott Fitzgerald story did right, otherwise the source material is a total piece of crap. I read the story after seeing the movie, and it is completely different - the only thing the same is that a guy named Benjamin Button has this affliction, and his birth father owns a button factory. The movie is very good, except that one important detail, and the short story sucks mondo monkey balls.
Capone, you ignorant slut... by Gus Van Rant	Dec 30th, 2008 12:47:00 PM
How dare you justify someone getting shot...lets just hope your Mama is not talking through a movie, oh, sweet irony.
Biggest DISAPOINTMENT for '08'? INDIANA JONES. by uberman	Dec 30th, 2008 12:48:19 PM
Bad sound stages. Shaif "lets make this kid a Star" LeBeouf or whatever. Bad CGI. No sense of wonder or amazement. The graveyard 'gouls' or whatever that looked like cast members from some bad Broadway version of 'CATS' or something. Just a bad movie that failed on every level to capture the sense of awe and wonder of the first three films. There was one scene that showed what the movie COULD have been: The chase through the ant colony.
The Fall is UNDERATED for a reason... by SadCadillac	Dec 30th, 2008 12:51:53 PM
It sucks. Features a well-shot opening credits sequence however.
Speed Racer by scrivener	Dec 30th, 2008 12:53:41 PM
Speed Racer was so stupid it was relentlessly entertaining. I even loved how they incorporated the hokey "Oah" sound that Speed made in the original cartoon. My one caveat is when the kid and monkey interrupt an otherwise touching moment at the end. No, if you loved the hell out the cartoon series as a kid I don't see how you can't love this movie. They're both retarded as hell and equally as fun.
RED BELT? Are you fuckin' clown shoes? by Razorback	Dec 30th, 2008 12:54:45 PM
Red Belt was great for the first hour and then it took the biggest nosedive in film history. It was so bad in that final third that I actually vomited on it.
I enjoyed Speed Racer by MetiphisLabs	Dec 30th, 2008 01:01:11 PM
It wasn't that fucking bad. Bunch of melodramatic people shitting all over it.
Razorback by skimn	Dec 30th, 2008 01:02:25 PM
I have such conflict for Redbelt because of Mamet's obsession with "the con". Must everything be a set-up for a con job? Yep, frustrating for a damn good movie with a really good performance from Tim Allen, and what should've been a starmaker for Chiwetel Ejiofor.
American Teen? by Powers Boothe	Dec 30th, 2008 01:08:20 PM
Capone, you're killing me with that one. Definitely one of the most obviously manipulated 'documentaries' I've ever seen. No credibility whatsoever. Dreadful.
Redbelt's third act was genius! by HoboCode	Dec 30th, 2008 01:11:31 PM
What are you smoking Razorback?
Redbelt was fantastic by spiritualgorila	Dec 30th, 2008 01:23:17 PM
felt kinda empty the fist time i watched it, but once i watched it again a couple months later i found it much more brilliant.
Speed Racer is great......If you're 4 years old. by Monkeybrains	Dec 30th, 2008 01:30:03 PM
Lots of pretty lights. Fake toy cars going around in a circle with no distinction as to who is winning at any time. More pretty lights. No story to confuse you while you're watching the pretty lights. "Look mommy! The cars go boom and make 'splosions!!" "Shush Jimmy or that fan boy will shoot you" Ohhh. Pretty lights!!!!
Why Capone's off by ZoeFan	Dec 30th, 2008 01:31:44 PM
The dialog in the cartoon version of Speed Racer is cookie-cutter and complete drivel, yet it's acceptable. If you ask me, the movie just followed in the cartoon's idiosyncracies. However the same claim about the dialog can't be said for The Happening. Capone, I understand that Speed Racer is a complete love or hate movie. But worst of the year? Especially with films like The Happening out there. I'd say you're a little off.
Forgetting Sarah Marshall.. thank God by Maxer	Dec 30th, 2008 01:35:25 PM
I don't understand the love Pineapple Express is getting. It was decently entertaining, but it really wasn't that good of an action parody or a comedy. Also completely failed on the girlfriend plotline. FSM on the other hand is by far the funniest movie I've seen all year. Soo many funny characters, quotable lines, things you'll remember.
you must be kidding! by yer mama	Dec 30th, 2008 01:36:42 PM
DISASTER MOVIE is one of the funniest films I've ever seen! Right up there with MEET THE SPARTANS! LOVE GURU is also destined to be a comedy classic. I doubt you even saw these movies, cuz if you did there is no way they would make your worst list. Man, you have your head up your ass.
Let the Right One In by MJDeViant	Dec 30th, 2008 01:37:01 PM
That was the best movie I saw this year. I liked The Dark Knight a lot, but I can't get LTROI out of my head. It's so calm but menacing. It's pleasingly subtle, it has one of the best endings ever, when Eli is on screen you feel so nervously curious, and just the right amount of gore. It only had one flaw in my opinion, relating to Eli, but I later read that it was more in the book. It was just sort of out of place to me. Anyways, no one cares, but I'm bored at work.
I agree with a lot of posters... by Sidius	Dec 30th, 2008 01:38:59 PM
Speed Racer is far from the worst film of the year and actually it's one of the most revolutionary films in terms of sheer technological advancement since, well since The Matrix. The CG used int eh racing sequences and the camera work around a lot of the stunts was breathtaking. The acting is wooden and the lines borderline silly but that's only because that was exactly the feel of the it's trying to emulate. I actually enjoyed it quite a bit for what it was. Not best of the year good but certainly not the worst...
Doomsday by ZoeFan	Dec 30th, 2008 01:39:18 PM
A great movie if you enjoy watching real stunt work. Also it's one of the 10 Best Looking Blu-Rays out there. A God-Awful movie if you're looking for a compelling story. This movie goes in directions never thought of by another human on the planet...above 6 years old.
Monkeybrains = Sad little man by bubbatwo420	Dec 30th, 2008 01:41:14 PM
Find some happiness in your life dude because you're just coming off stupid. Just like any great work of art that have flash colors, there are many layers to Speed Racer that demonstrate the imporatance of family, determination and standing true to what you belive. This movie is cooler than you could ever be.
Capone...seriously? by damagedinc	Dec 30th, 2008 01:41:19 PM
It's annoying when someone texts or talks during a movie. It's evil when someone is murdered, especially over something as relatively trivial as a film. How can you feel so passionately about a movie, something which at best illuminates the beauty of the human condition or at least entertains real people and gives them a release from the world around them, but feel that that the guy in the theater had it coming? I love movies as much as the next guy on here. I also get real real mad when someone disrupts a movie. I can understand yelling at them or causing a scene, but not murder. Let the non-violent resistance go on, but no way should this dude killing someone over a movie be considered positive in any way.
Speed Racer, Transporter 3, X Files as WORST?!! by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 30th, 2008 01:41:22 PM
Those three were some of the most fun I had at the theater this year. Oh now I remember why I don't give a fuck about these lists and skip reading shit like this, the local weather report means more to me than this bullshit.
Yeah. Condoning the shooter makes you a fucking cunt. by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 30th, 2008 01:43:52 PM
You need to seriously find something worthwhile in life if a movie means that fucking much to you. Pathetic.
Right on Dickblood by drturing	Dec 30th, 2008 01:47:44 PM
I want a buddy cop movie with Danny Glover's Dickblood and Mel Gibson's Smegma (after all he must be uncircumcised)
YOU SPOKE DURING A BRAD PITT MOVIE!! by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 30th, 2008 01:51:58 PM
FOR THAT, YOU DESERVE TO DIE!! I LOVE BRAD PITT!! DIE MOTHERFUCKER!! DIE!!
How the fuck... by Outlaw	Dec 30th, 2008 01:52:28 PM
Did The Spirit not make the worst list?
Regarding Bob Morton... by shaft478	Dec 30th, 2008 01:58:48 PM
I had to kill Bob Morton because he made a mistake, now it's time to erase that mistake.
here is the Major problem with your list and critics.... by j2talk	Dec 30th, 2008 02:04:02 PM
looking at your list of tied for 2nd many of the films need to judged in a different light for example the Mummy 3....it tried to be a "B" movie and in that attempt it succeeds to review it with the idea it was trying to be more than that is unfair to the film- sure it isn't a GREAT movie but it sure as hell is a great "B" movie....as a reviewer you should be looking at the film as a whole to see IF the project delivers what it was trying to NOT what you wanted it to be...
HOD by Abominable Snowcone	Dec 30th, 2008 02:05:13 PM
I kind of agree. I really wanted to like Crystal Skull, and even now when I watch it with the kids, some part of me hopes it will be better the next time around, it will be the movie I wanted it to be. The bigger the expectation, the higher the cliff from whence we fall, and we all went splat big time on that. Too bad, really, cuz if they took out the nuked fridge and Mutt-as-Tarzan, it might go up a star and a half.
Come on... no "Spirit"? by Andyrooskie	Dec 30th, 2008 02:05:26 PM
No WAY could Speed Racer have been worse than this train wreck.
DGDB by Abominable Snowcone	Dec 30th, 2008 02:05:58 PM
Hilarious. Not in reality, but the way you put it...
Speed Racer by j2talk	Dec 30th, 2008 02:06:39 PM
interesting SFX...everything else about the film failed...
sorry anyone praising the shooter is a fucking asshole by slappy jones	Dec 30th, 2008 02:06:43 PM
seriously. this insane fucking mental case shot someone over fucking talking in fucking public place. anyone who thinks that is cool or funny well i hope every movie going experience is ruined for you from now until the day you die
slappy by shaft478	Dec 30th, 2008 02:08:00 PM
Talk during a movie while I'm there and I'll rape you in front of your family.
What? No Titanic 2: Going Down? by Abominable Snowcone	Dec 30th, 2008 02:08:17 PM
I thought Rose's extended nood love scenes were erotic, yet subtle, and the fellatio sequences were sublime
If you talk during Avatar by Abominable Snowcone	Dec 30th, 2008 02:08:57 PM
you die from a thousand geek bullets at once, and not a single arrest shall be made
i agree with top 1 and worst 1 by robamenta	Dec 30th, 2008 02:13:06 PM
i looooved b button..i admit i cried like a baby...and speed racer was shockingly horrible,,,,,but........cmon.. .wallle sucked so badly...did u actually watch the entire film?? the first 40 min s are awesome but once they go and meet the chubbies...good lord its so incredibly awful
gotilk by mr.brownstone	Dec 30th, 2008 02:16:45 PM
Well said.
shaft478 by mr.brownstone	Dec 30th, 2008 02:17:26 PM
that shit make me laugh. every. single. time.
X-FILES: I WANT TO BELIEVE = NARCOLEPSY by Mr. Nice Gaius	Dec 30th, 2008 02:18:25 PM
I'm a big X-FILES fan from back in the day...but that flick was a complete waste of time. Seriously, it put me to friggin' sleep. Twice. In fact, it was so tedious that I wasn't even interested in reversing the DVD to see what I missed during my snooze. Hey Chris Carter - no matter what people think and say, the backbone of the show (and the characters) was always the alien conspiracy. The notion that you would bank on a stand-alone-type film as the way to bring the franchise back after a decade long hiatus is lunacy. What an embarrassment.
And as for INDY 4... by Mr. Nice Gaius	Dec 30th, 2008 02:20:42 PM
...what a tale of woe.
shaft478 by mr.brownstone	Dec 30th, 2008 02:20:57 PM
the robocop reference that is.
X Files: Gay Russian Body Transplants by skimn	Dec 30th, 2008 02:22:49 PM
always spells FUN in my book.. Where's that Kristin Wiig Aunt reviewer character when you need her..??
And c'mon people.. by skimn	Dec 30th, 2008 02:39:55 PM
Capone's 30 BEST??!! THIRTY?? Thats a lot of movies to throw up and land in a "best of" pile. Kind of negates the whole point doesn't it?
My favorite: Wanted by 9000rpm	Dec 30th, 2008 02:47:58 PM
By far the most giddiness-inducing fun at the cinema all year.
WNBitch by skimn	Dec 30th, 2008 02:48:14 PM
Just curious, what lists have you seen that rates SR as a ten best? Most I have seen rate it within the worst...
I dig X-Files: IWTB by NinjaRap	Dec 30th, 2008 02:48:25 PM
Because it did a lot to rectify the numerous problems I had with the stupid series finale. However, I do admit that the "X-File" was kind of low-key for a major movie. We had bigger stakes and more action damn near every week on that show. This movie was more about Mulder, Scully, their relationship and where they were at in their lives than it was about the actual X-File. Now, I liked that, myself. But the average person probably wouldn't. It's too slow and quiet and thoughtful a film for the average movie viewer, the casual series fan, and especially the summertime moviegoer. Hardcores only.
skimn by NinjaRap	Dec 30th, 2008 02:49:09 PM
Check Rolling Stone, for starters, as a list that put Speed Racer as one of the 10 best of the year.
WhinyNegativeBitch by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Dec 30th, 2008 02:49:58 PM
Welcome to my world. Seeing Wall*E and TDK on best of lists makes me scratch my head so hard I've been twice approached by the Head & Shoulders people.
skimn by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Dec 30th, 2008 02:52:38 PM
Check the Twitch TB as well. There's at least 4 of us that have Speed Racer as a top ten. And anyone that thinks this year was one of the worst has NOT watched enough foreign and independent films. Those two industries have made this the best year in a while.
I drank the Speed Racer Kool Aid by SomaShine	Dec 30th, 2008 02:52:44 PM
I had no expectations going into that. But I seriously defy you to find another motion picture ever made like it. It was pure japanimation come to life. How the hell you think Speed Racer was worse than any of those other ones is insane to me.
Nice to see Forgetting Sarah Marshall lub other than my own.. by Pennsy	Dec 30th, 2008 02:53:27 PM
But Wendy and Lucy?, which Film School Rejects.com says as follows in putting it on its WORST movies of the year list: "The utterly un-unique story of a girl and her dog. There’s enough plot in here to fill about six minutes. The rest is padding with a homely version of Michelle Williams walking a lot and moping about her lost dog."
Speed Racer... by Lord John Whorfin	Dec 30th, 2008 02:54:03 PM
made sweet, sweet love to your eyeballs. Made Cameron jealous, because he always thought you were hot, and the Wachowski Brothers got to you first. Now you're just sloppy seconds, but Cameron still wants to hit that. Because he knows how much you like getting fucked.
Finally someone who realizes Speed Racer sucks! by Cruel_Kingdom	Dec 30th, 2008 02:57:35 PM

Zero Cred...liked Australia but not Speed Racer? by quantize	Dec 30th, 2008 02:57:39 PM
both indulgent pieces of shit
I have Speed Racer in my Top 10 as well. by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 30th, 2008 03:00:41 PM
But keep jerking off to Brad Pitt if it makes you feel better.
Nice Capone, you put The Fall on your list by SoylentMean	Dec 30th, 2008 03:07:59 PM
The best DVD find of the year for me. I hope it gets nominated for cinematography and costume design. Holy shit what an amazing film. Especially if you look for story over spectacle in your movies.
Double Feature of Snow Angels and The Sweet Hereafter by SoylentMean	Dec 30th, 2008 03:09:20 PM
equals you cutting yourself, badly. I love both movies to death, but man are they bleak. Still, not all of life is sunshine and leprechauns.
Dudes, Like Totally... by TheBlackKnight	Dec 30th, 2008 03:13:15 PM
You have to give it up to John Goodman, Matthew Fox and Roger Allam for their respective roles as Pops, Racer X, and sleazeball Arnold Royalton. I mean honestly, I suppose I should list most of the cast. I thought they were dynamite in what they were trying to achieve, mostly with the 3 I mentioned. Royalton was so goddamn sleazy and ruthless, I'd put him behind Heath Ledger's Joker as far as best villains of this year go. When he tears into Speed after he refuses Royalton's offer? Magic.
MY WORST MOVIES OF 2008 by uberman	Dec 30th, 2008 03:18:22 PM
Alot of films I missed. Some (the Mummy3, Journey to the center of the earth, max payne, the Spirit) I skipped based on the strength of their commercials which showed just enough shit to convince me that they were to be very, very bad. Others I planned on seeing but skipped due to the reactions of my fellow talk-backers (the Happening anyone? X-Files?) Some SOUNDED cool but something told me to stay away (88 minutes, Righteous Kill). Some I avoided due to the horribleness of the previous entry (Transporter 3). Some movies sounded as exciting as watching paint dry (W. Frost-Nixon)So here is one talk-backers 2 cents on what was truly bad this year, keeping in mind that the #1 turd was DOOMSDAY. Doomsday. 10,000 BC. Diary of the Dead. Paranoid Park (Good Lord I cannot even remember what the hell it was about. Oh, thats right. It wasn't about anything.)Son of Rambow (In concept, should have been great. In reality, it was grade C-). Thats it!
whinynegative bitch by logicalnoise01	Dec 30th, 2008 03:18:57 PM
I counted a few apologists and mostly people saying they enjoyed the flick a lot. I make no apologies teh film was enjoyable and fun which is more than I can say for meet the spartans, happening etc. Capone had one spot for his "shock jock" moment and he decided speed racer could be the whipping boy.
I forgot to include INDIANA JONES on my list! by uberman	Dec 30th, 2008 03:19:14 PM

Speed Racer by tlsivart	Dec 30th, 2008 03:22:52 PM
Didn't suck that bad. I admit the first time I saw it I did the WTF take, but I've rented it on blu-ray and was able to watch it again and it really has some great moments. John Goodman is the best dad character actor of all time and some of his scenes really got me choked up. I loved the family unity aspect of the movie and think overtime this movie will come around. It was never meant to be more than fun. I could have done without the monkey.
WNB, actually EW said by skimn	Dec 30th, 2008 03:23:32 PM
"Taking the title of a forgettable Japanese-based TV cartoon all too literally, the Wachowski brothers indulge in a cacophony of bright lights, jelly-bean colors, and zoomy, CG-jiggered action involving cartoonish race cars going nowhere. Not for migraine sufferers."...and "Candy-colored caca from the Wachowski brothers, who take the dorkish, lame, impersonal-to-the-point-of-ste rility '60s cartoon series and, in an act of higher physics, technologize it into something even more excruciating. This is one of those disasters of synthetic image fetishism, like One From the Heart or Tron, that doesn't dazzle the eye so much as rot the brain. It may also be the first Hollywood thrill ride to make time stand still." Ouch... And these are the high brow snobs that named Casino Royale the best that year, and both named Dark Knight high on the list this year. Different strokes...
WhinyNegativeBitch... by ZoeFan	Dec 30th, 2008 03:24:41 PM
What are your thoughts on the Speed Racer cartoon?
Maybe Capone felt child-raped by the Wachowskis... by Chishu_Ryu	Dec 30th, 2008 03:25:37 PM
...with "Matrix" II and III, and sees "Speed Racer" as his best opportunity to take back the night...
whinynegativebitch by slappy jones	Dec 30th, 2008 03:26:10 PM
me no unnerstn wat u be sayin to me
College kids of the future and Speed Racer by SoylentMean	Dec 30th, 2008 03:28:20 PM
It will be a cult favorite. It will be watched by kids seeking higher education while at the same time being really fucking high in their dorm rooms. It is trainwreck-tastic. Mesmerizing even.
The Happening is another cult film in the making by SoylentMean	Dec 30th, 2008 03:29:31 PM
Which apparently was the point.
Speed Racer!?? by MattmanReturns	Dec 30th, 2008 03:31:04 PM
How do you put Speed Racer above 10,000 BC?
Speed Racer is analogous to TRON by DougMcKenzie	Dec 30th, 2008 03:31:23 PM
It's true. Something visually realized in an extraordinary way. Misunderstood in its time, to be looked back upon fondly in 20 years. The critics who lambasted it will be identified as out of touch. Is Capone going to be the next Gene Shalit?
Speed Racer was good by Outlaw	Dec 30th, 2008 03:31:24 PM
Just not great, but it was pretty entertaining.
Top 30 and you couldn't find a place for Seven Pounds? by Big Jim	Dec 30th, 2008 03:31:30 PM
Oh right, it's Will Smith, and it's not cool to admit you liked one of his movies.
And Speed Racer, while a disappointment, was hardly by Big Jim	Dec 30th, 2008 03:33:04 PM
the WORST movie of the year. The majority of those listed in the #2 spot are far and beyond worse than Speed Racer.
10 WORST FILMS OF 2008 by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 30th, 2008 03:33:38 PM
1. INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL 2. INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL 3. INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL 4. INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL 5. INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL 6. INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL 7. INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL 8. INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL 9. INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL 10. MAMMA MIA
WhinyNegativeBitch by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 30th, 2008 03:38:50 PM
I'll think about that. You might be right.
SPEED RACER was THE groundbreaking film of 2008... by Chishu_Ryu	Dec 30th, 2008 03:39:08 PM
...with a popular release. Haven't seen "The Fall" yet, nor "Slumdog Millionaire." But it's hard for me to see Danny Boyle topping his past films, as I feel he just sort of remakes his films over and over, in a good way, that is. SPEED RACER, on the other hand, looked and sounded and moved like nothing I'd ever seen before. Be thankful for cinematic achievements like what the Wachowskis dared to make. They're rare. I can sincerely understand the hate, though, as it's a film that defies expectations...
Four Christmases, For Chrissakes?!? by HapaPapa72	Dec 30th, 2008 03:41:50 PM
Capone, you have your head up your ass. Gayer than a 3 dollar bill. How you could lump a masterpiece like FC in your worst list is unforgivable. Vince Vaughn's portrayal of Brad is absolutely spot-on the best portrayal of the suffering-boyfriend-amidst-pot ential-in-laws-at-Christmastim e that I have ever seen. It totally raised the bar on Christmas comedies and gave us all something we'd never seen but only dreamed of until now. From now on, no one can play Brad except Vaughn. NO ONE. From the daring opening sequence with the daylight shopping spree, I was on the edge of my seat. The fight scenes between Vaughn and Favreau were epic, and I thought Reese Witherspoon is much better than Katie What's Her Name. THIS is the way Christmas comedies SHOULD be done from now on. F**K the HATERS!!! FOUR CHRISTMASES RULES!!!
Clone Wars? One of the worst? by johnnyangel	Dec 30th, 2008 03:42:52 PM
I rented it last weekend. I thought it was kind of good. Not any more stupid than any of the Star Wars franchise. And the acting was actually better than the last three.
DerLanghaarige by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 30th, 2008 03:42:58 PM
OOOOOOOOOOHHHH. I'm so mad you just said that. I'm gonna tear down my cardboard standee of Sean Connery and burn my house down. Bumbling Marcus Brody more annoying than CG monkeys?!! Say it ain't so!!
OMG! I already forgot... by Jaka	Dec 30th, 2008 03:43:33 PM
...that Max Payne exists. Hahahaaha. I'm so happy that you guys (here at AICN, the only film site I go to) have so much love for Wall-E. It just keeps getting better each time I watch it. And I think it was Harry who said it's the best sci-fi in years; I could not agree more. There's real magic in that movie. The kind that shapes and changes a person. Not too many films can do that these days.
Thanks alot ass monkeys for the SPOILERS on Benjamin Button. by MurderMostFowl	Dec 30th, 2008 03:44:00 PM
Goddamnit. Yes spoilers for some of the older movies on the list are acceptable at this point to me, but not one STILL IN THE THEATER. I was going to go see that freaking movie tonight goddamnit.
Danny by skimn	Dec 30th, 2008 03:44:05 PM
Damn you sir, for the fuckin funniest post in this thread. I bow in your general direction.
DerLanghaarige... by gamerawangi	Dec 30th, 2008 03:47:20 PM
Oh, I SOOOOOOOO agree! I may get slammed here (no, probably will), but I thought "Crystal Skull" worked as a direct sequel to "Raiders" and was much better than what we got in between.
10 seconds of CG monkeys can destroy careers. by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 30th, 2008 03:47:35 PM

And Wall-E falls apart when he goes to outer space... by Chishu_Ryu	Dec 30th, 2008 03:47:40 PM
Really. Actually, it fell apart when the fembot Eve reciprocates Wall-E's amorous emotions. Where did that come from? Basically, Wall_E felt to me like a lame take on Star Wars, if R2D2 saved the universe instead of Luke. Prior to Wall-e falling into complete silliness, the first twenty minutes I give you were at once charming, haunting, beautiful. Then it gets stupid. And I felt sorry for overweight people in the audience.
Hottie and the Nottie was the worst with Capones Gargoyle friend by Knobules	Dec 30th, 2008 03:48:15 PM
Hiltons shitheap is beyond awful.
good lookin' out SKIMN. by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 30th, 2008 03:49:49 PM

WNB, either you watch too many movies or not enough by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Dec 30th, 2008 03:50:12 PM
With The Visitor, Tell No One, Milk, Man On Wire, The Class, Doubt, The Good The Bad The Weird and Happy Go Lucky, how can you call the year total crap? Lots of great stuff to round out top ten lists.
Goddamit Capone by Subtlety	Dec 30th, 2008 03:51:00 PM
X-files may have its problems but it definitely doesn't deserve to be in the company of stuff like Dungeon Seige and 10000 BC. Its worlds better than every movie on that list even if you found it boring or the villians seemed a little underdeveloped. Just by virtue of its atmosphere and acting its in a different league than all those others. It might be worth putting on a list of "biggest dissapointments" but not worst films.
Indy 4 by MattmanReturns	Dec 30th, 2008 03:53:53 PM
Oh please, that does not belong on a "worst" list just because it had a few stupid scenes. The majority of it was pretty entertaining. Geeks have no perspective. They think just because something didn't live up to their insane expectations that it's the worst thing to ever happen to them. Get a life.
DannyGlover excluded by MattmanReturns	Dec 30th, 2008 03:55:26 PM
Cuz he's witty.
fuck expectations.... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 30th, 2008 03:56:23 PM
Disregard its an Indiana Jones movie even. It was some of the worst written dialogue I have ever heard in a film with a budget over a million dollars. That is the truth.
Oh and by the way... by Subtlety	Dec 30th, 2008 03:57:01 PM
Actively celebrating a guy who murdered someone over a movie? Classy move, man. That's pretty low.
WNB, you're one harsh mutha..shut your mouth! by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Dec 30th, 2008 03:59:51 PM
Lovin on TDK which I loooooathed but hatin' on the rest. TGTBTW was okay? Yeesh. That puppy was the creative thunderball TDK wanted to be. And Wall*E started off well but fell apart like a leper in a paint shaker when they reached the Love To Eat Boat.
PREDICTION: WHAT WILL SUCK IN 2009? by uberman	Dec 30th, 2008 04:01:20 PM
I have looked into the orb. Movies I forsee sucking major wadage will be: G.I. JOE; DRAGON BALL Z; WYAN BROTHERS COMEDIES; ANY REMAKE OF AN ASIAN HORROR FILM; PINK PANTHER 2; STREET FIGHTER-THE LEGEND OF CHUN-LI: FAST and the FURIOUS 4; CRANK 2:HIGH VOLTAGE; X-MEN WOLVERINE; THE A TEAM; FAME.
I dunno Danny by MattmanReturns	Dec 30th, 2008 04:01:23 PM
The dialogue didn't really offend me... there was some shaky dialogue in the opening... but I thought the Indy/Mutt scene in the bar was cool, and the Marion/Indy stuff was cute. However I saw the Mummy 3 and almost threw up in my own lap. There's a movie I had no expectations for, and it was still awful. The dialogue between Fraser and his son was just headache inducing. Indy 4 did have a few REALLY bad scenes, but those involved CG, not dialogue.
Subtlety by MattmanReturns	Dec 30th, 2008 04:03:39 PM
He didn't murder him, he shot him in the arm. And I'm glad it happened. Maybe people will stfu in the theater now and stop ruining movie experiences for everyone else. Probably not though. We'll need a few more shootings.
Subtlety -- yeah its pretty fucking pathetic. by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 30th, 2008 04:04:22 PM
And I find it hilarious the same guy that celebrates the murder of a human being over a fucking Brad Pitt film, is the guy that was actively begging for donations from TB'ers when his roof was torn off last year. Remember that one people? Yeah. Real great human being there. I'm so glad we populate this planet together. And I'm so glad people of your breed are able to voice their opinions online.
swap BENJAMIN BUTTON with SPEED RACER by Power_Girl	Dec 30th, 2008 04:04:28 PM
And it's all good. Seriously? you like that Dodgy Forest Gump remake? The script is lazy and the characters are one or two dimensional. It was tedious and the only star of the film were the make up people and ILM... yet we've seen people in old man make up many times before... not amazing anymore. The acting wasn't that great but only A listers can win oscars so the academy do not have much to choose from.
Jesus, Uberman, I weep for my future... by BMacSmith	Dec 30th, 2008 04:11:17 PM
after seeing that list. we are screwed.
explanations for people hating on "The Fall" by BadMrWonka	Dec 30th, 2008 04:16:42 PM
1. haven't seen it, hated the Cell so are extrapolating 2. did see it, but can't admit it was great because they are afraid other talkbackers that HAVEN'T seen it will give them shit because they all hate The Cell 3. didn't get it, and hate being made to feel stupid 4. uncomfortable with men in costumes 5. mentally handicapped 6. Jimmy_009-itis (the affliction of having to hate everything interesting and well done in order to get attention) 7. somehow think it's liberal propaganda (can often be an additional symptom of Jimmy_009-itis)
BadMrWonka by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 30th, 2008 04:19:17 PM
Awww man. I fucking hate this sort of argument. You're saying anyone that doesn't suck Tarsem's cock over The Fall is a fucking idiot and/or a liar? Come on.
SPEED RACER is a happy innocent film. by Power_Girl	Dec 30th, 2008 04:21:13 PM
Happy and innocent goes against how people judge quality. They simply don't have the means in their head to take it seriously when it is not comedy. These people judge quality on ultra seriousness and bloated structures.
I know Speed Racer splits opinion by lex romero	Dec 30th, 2008 04:22:02 PM
But putting it down as worst of 2008 is just ridiculous and completely over the top. Yes the film had big problems but also had just as many fantastic ideas and technical achievements that, on an objective "this film is better made than that film" it's impossible for it to top anyones "worst of" list. Look at your worst of list and tell me there's nothing you would less like to watch again than SR? Also a lot of people that criticise it for being "splosion" filled were hte people who shot their load all over Transformers, which was a much worse film and can be accused of all the faults SR is accused of, plus more. transformers managed to be shittily mediocre and nobody bats an eyelid. SR is both fantastic and ridiculous and angers people.
no way SPEED RACER was worse than by Taklamakan	Dec 30th, 2008 04:22:58 PM
Witless Protection...granted, I havent actually watched Speed Racer, but no strip of celluloid could be as rank and fetid as Witless Protection. I watched that and Meet the Spartans back to back with a bud of mine, which led immediately to a murder-suicide.
my love for Speed Racer.... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 30th, 2008 04:23:41 PM
....comes not from the effects and green screen wizardry, but from the awesome family dynamic-- one of the best I've ever seen in a kid's film.
badmrwonka by lex romero	Dec 30th, 2008 04:24:31 PM
"3. didn't get it, and hate being made to feel stupid" :-/ What is there to "get"? It's a fairly simple film.
How about YES MAN in the best list? by yer mama	Dec 30th, 2008 04:27:38 PM
One of the year's funniest films! Jim Carey is hilarious! Just say "yes" to YES MAN!
guys you cant really count "blank Movie" or Larry movies by BMacSmith	Dec 30th, 2008 04:29:35 PM
Epic Movie, Meet the Spartans or Witless Protection can't be considered actual movies. i dont think the makers of those 'products' would even be so brave as to call those things films. to even acknowledge those as worst movies would give them too much credit.
I hate when people can't accept you hate a movie.... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 30th, 2008 04:30:12 PM
...they love. And they say shit like "You just didn't get it." Fuck you-- I got that its complete shit. I'm not speaking of The Fall, I'm just saying in general. Its fucking ridiculous. I love Speed Racer. Many hate it. I say fuck 'em. I'm not gonna say any of that "Well maybe you should give it another try" bullshit. Don't give it another try. Break the DVD into 15 pointed shards, and shove them up your fucking ass.
A Wachowski Brothers movie that pissed off people? by milla jovovich	Dec 30th, 2008 04:32:24 PM
That's nothing new.
Capone, re: your "Falling Down" boyfriend in Philly by YackBacker	Dec 30th, 2008 04:35:00 PM
I'll chalk up your poorly phrased defense of that man to some deep anger issues. Yes, I've told people to shut it during movies many a time. I've not once ever felt a violent tendency towards any of them. Once, a woman stole my seat when I got up to get popcorn. The guy in Philly deserves to go to jail for a very long time. He endangered LIVES. No movie is that good, especially Eric Roth's retread of FORREST GUMP.
ah fuck it, i'm not gonna defend the Wachowski Bros by BMacSmith	Dec 30th, 2008 04:35:19 PM
Speed Racer was ok, but i'll never forgive those douches for ruining the Matrix sequels. hate away for all i care.
My Top 30! by bubbatwo420	Dec 30th, 2008 04:35:32 PM
1. SPEED RACER 2. SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE 3. CURIOUS CASE OF BENJAMIN BUTTON 4. HELLBOY II: THE GOLDEN ARMY 5. WRESTLER, THE 6. WALL-E 7. PINEAPPLE EXPRESS 8. TROPIC THUNDER 9. IN BRUGES 10. MILK 11. GRAN TORINO 12. READER, THE 13. FORGETTING SARAH MARSHAL 14. FROST/NIXON 15. ZACH AND MIRI MAKE A PORNO 16. BOLT 17. KUNG FU PANDA 18. CLOVERFIELD 19. VALKYRIE 20. IRON MAN 21. SON OF RAMBOW 22. LET THE RIGHT ONE IN 23. MARLEY AND ME 24 .BROTHERS BLOOM, THE 25. BURN AFTER READING. 26. RACHEL GETTING MARRIED 27. SNOW ANGELS 28. REVOLUTIONARY ROAD 29. THE DARK KNIGHT 30. DOOMSDAY Movie are about having fun people!!!!
Well, Bmac by Taklamakan	Dec 30th, 2008 04:37:17 PM
if we must disregard MOVIE movies and Larry the Cable Guy, then the worst film of the year that I saw was easily The Happening.
So Speed Racer has a big following now? by Lovecraftfan	Dec 30th, 2008 04:37:25 PM
I'm surprised I wanted to like it but it was a big fat bore. Could not care less about anybody or anything in that film.
and the Best of 2008 was by Taklamakan	Dec 30th, 2008 04:38:10 PM
Aztec Rex
Yeah, you hated the Matrix sequels so much. by milla jovovich	Dec 30th, 2008 04:38:26 PM
And here you are, still talking about them, five years later. Doesn't it piss you off even more, every time you have to go back to that particular well?
Apologizing for liking something is ridiculous by SoylentMean	Dec 30th, 2008 04:38:55 PM
just saying
X-Files on The Worst list? by LT	Dec 30th, 2008 04:40:05 PM
It was one of the best character study films this year, with a fantastic turn from Anderson. Capone and other AICN hacks, make a 2009 resolution - get a hobby, just stay away from reviewing films.
unless it's something akin to atrocity... by SoylentMean	Dec 30th, 2008 04:41:20 PM
like watching kiddie porn or enjoying snuff films. Not only should anybody who likes those things apologize, they should lay down and die. Preferably after being crushed by an exorbitant amount of stones placed upon said sicko's chest by angry villagers.
And how does SR achieve that "awesome family dynamic"? by Chishu_Ryu	Dec 30th, 2008 04:41:49 PM
Simple filmmaking really, but something that's rarely done because of some kind of stupid industry rule that says the film must only be one person's story. In the beginning of the film, we get to see each of the Racer family's internal pov of what's been bothering this family for years, the death of Rex Racer. Each family member, from Pops down to Chim Chim, is given equal screen time. A sort of democractic communistic way of storytelling if you will. Speed himself isn't given real dialogue until about twenty minutes in when he confronts Royalton. This democratic mode of storytelling is used throughout the whole film. The Wachowskis refuse to let Speed's intensity hijack the film, but let Mom Racer's sweetness have its due, the comedy and zaniness of of Spritle and Chim chim, the seriousness of Racer X, etc. And when needed, the family members actually communicate to one another in ensemble scenes(like at breakfast, or when they argue in the hotel room), something that is totally taken for granted in movies these days.
Worst Movie? The Happening by SoylentMean	Dec 30th, 2008 04:42:23 PM

Most Disappointing Movie? X-Files: I Want To Believe by SoylentMean	Dec 30th, 2008 04:42:52 PM

Capone is a fascist... by Chishu_Ryu	Dec 30th, 2008 04:44:25 PM
...hence his hatred of SPEED RACER and support for people who shoot other people practicing their constitutional right to freedom of speech...
Hot Fuzz by bubbatwo420	Dec 30th, 2008 04:46:55 PM
Hahahaha, every time i heard the word Fascist i always think of the scene in Hot Fuzz where he talks to the old lady at the hotel desk. Thanks Chishu_Ryu!
milla jovovich, oh i'm not gonna stop talking about them by BMacSmith	Dec 30th, 2008 04:48:11 PM
oh no. not until every last fucking Reloaded apologist has repented or is destroyed from the Earth. I will not let it die! Every movie they ever make will be tainted with the stench of pure evil that those assclowns created with those sequels. there should be a special place in hell for them next to Hitler and Judas. Repent All Ye Apologists!!!!! Repent NOW!
I think paid writers asking for hand outs.... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 30th, 2008 04:48:21 PM
...from unemployed TB'ers should be shot.
benjamin button by believe_it	Dec 30th, 2008 04:52:43 PM
sucked. believe it.
Amen DGDB by Fuzzyjefe	Dec 30th, 2008 04:57:09 PM
You know what I love about movies, books, TV shows, and other forms of entertainment? If I like something, it doesn't really matter to me if ABSOLUTELY NO ONE ELSE does. I likes what I likes. It's mah taste y'all. I turned Mummy 3 off about 30 minutes into it, 'cause I did not enjoy anything about it. However, if you can find something to like, awesome for you. That's YOUR taste. Some likes apples, some likes oranges. Some likes fruit cocktail. Me, I likes an entertaining story told well. Normally, if I feel that an author/director/etc achieved what they set out to do, I don't think the book/movie/etc is BAD. I may not like it, but it can still be a successful example of the art form. That said, when a writer/director/whatever has a solid history of successful storytelling, there's a level of expectation. Take Indy 4. Not a bad movie really. Some silliness, yes. But stacked up against the other Indy films, and other Spielberg films, it's not the strongest entry. Just because I was disappointed a bit doesn't mean I'm personally affronted because someone else loves it. It's taste y'all. You can't make me like what I don't, and I don't care if you love what I hate. Uwe Boll your man? Good for you. He spits out movies pretty regularly. You love AVP? Cool. This is America. There's something out there for all of us. I wish I could be more like Harry, and love just about ANYTHING.
I loved loved loved BEDTIME STORIES! by yer mama	Dec 30th, 2008 04:59:38 PM
Russell Brand is absurd, funny and wonderfully out of place in a family movie. And hello: crazy pop-eyed animated guinea pig alert!
Speed Racer by Jaws Wayne	Dec 30th, 2008 04:59:57 PM
My son asked me to take him to Speed Racer when it played here, but I wasn't sold on the tv spots I had seen nor feeling cool about going to the next dubbed family movie, so managed to bump it off. (Barely though). I'm now actually more curious than ever, thinking I could very well be in for a major treat, just reading Michael Giacchino did the score for it triggers it completely, as he also did a truly fantastic score for the Incredibles. Anybody here familiar with the music he composed for the PC game "Squad Commander" for Small Soldiers ? It's the fuckin' best.
Value of AICN by wintocha67	Dec 30th, 2008 05:00:40 PM
Thanks to you guys not only have I seen a few of the best movies of the year, I have avoided every single one of Capone's Worst List including Speed Racer. Awesome!
I enjoyed Speed Racer. It wasn't the movie by Dingbatty	Dec 30th, 2008 05:02:32 PM
that I thought that property had the potential to be, but, whatever...I can see why someone would hate it. Now, The Fall, glad to see someone here pick it for a top list. Gorgeous movie with soul, and balls.
X-FILES: IWTB was a "character study"?! by Mr. Nice Gaius	Dec 30th, 2008 05:06:07 PM
A study in boredom maybe. Everything about the movie is inconsequential. Nothing is gained by the characters or the viewer. At best, the film may have served as a mediocre episode during the series' run. When compared to FIGHT THE FUTURE, it's a drastic step down in every department. (Don't even get me started on the shot of Mulder & Scully in the rowboat after the end credits...)
i believe in taste fascism... by BMacSmith	Dec 30th, 2008 05:12:45 PM
if you enjoyed something only a braindead puppy could enjoy an i hated it, then you should be spayed and/or neutered! you hear that AvP lovers? AGGGHHHHHHH i BURN WITH HATRED!!!!!
Danny, The Capone Roof Charity Drive ... by worldofwarcraft	Dec 30th, 2008 05:18:19 PM
Nowhere near as lame as his moment as Paris Hilton's BFF.
Why does NO ONE mention Towelhead?... by DanielKurland	Dec 30th, 2008 05:18:39 PM
It's fucking better than American Beauty, which is saying a lot.
Speaking of Ms Hilton by worldofwarcraft	Dec 30th, 2008 05:21:05 PM
No Hottie or the Nottie mentions?
BAFFLED BY BUTTON... by Negator76	Dec 30th, 2008 05:21:14 PM
Seriously, what are the critics smoking? It was a poorly scripted turd populated with characters so bland that you couldn't even work up enough passion to dislike them. The last hour of that movie is like an endurance test. Fuck, C-span has a better dramatic arc than that pretentious, inflated bore of a film. I got no problem with slow movies, Kurosawa, Tarkovsky and Jean-Pierre Melville have made some of the greatest slow movies of all time. But Ben Button was like paying ten bucks to watch a stranger grow old and die... IN REAL TIME. But with all the funny and interesting parts of their life edited out. Folks, you might as well walk out after the tugboat sinks. After that, it's like watching a goddamned Abercrombie and Fitch ad for an hour and forty-five minutes. And don't get me started on that goddamned hummingbird. Button is by far the most painfully insipid, tortuously boring filmgoing experience in recent memory. Not only is TDK better than Button.. THE INCREDIBLE HULK is better than Button. I'd take any half-assed B monster movie nonsense over that dull, self-important drek. Makeup, movie stars, and Fincher do not automatically add up to a good movie, people. AVOID AT ALL COSTS.
No Rambo? by Mr. Waturi	Dec 30th, 2008 05:33:57 PM
Shame on you. It was the leanest and most entertaining action movie of the year. And the dialog was no more cartoonish than TDK or Iron Man.
Negator76 by Jaws Wayne	Dec 30th, 2008 05:38:47 PM
Haven't seen Button yet, but are you telling me it's about or even slower as Zodiac ? I thought that was quite torturous too in lenght,I must have looked at my watch at least 20 times during that viewing.
Yes, Mr. Nice Gaius, The X-Files: I Want to Believe by LT	Dec 30th, 2008 05:40:10 PM
was a great character study, and a much better film than the "Fight the Future" hollywoodized nonsense.
Okay, I'm obviously late to this party... by Blue_Demon	Dec 30th, 2008 05:55:06 PM
But Capone, you have shown yourself to be contemptible with your comments about the shooter. "Waaaaah! He ruined my movie! Shoot him!" The man with the talky kid was annoying, yes, but the psycho with the gun deserves not one iota of respect or praise. He fired a gun at a man for TALKING and you are not appalled by his actions but by the talker's? You my friend have some seriously upside-down values. You place your movie-going experience over a man's life. You narcissistic total FOOL.
The Spirit by Scuzzy	Dec 30th, 2008 06:00:12 PM
Is absolutely one of the worst films to hit the screen this year. Speed Racer deserves credit just for the visual style. XFiles and Crystal Skull...big let downs both, but as far as being the worst? Nahhhh.
Wow. More elitism. by Darkman	Dec 30th, 2008 06:01:13 PM
Peter Travers and the two jackholes at EW placed SPEED RACER on their worst list, but it takes true testicular fortitude to suggest that DISASTER MOVIE and MEET THE SPARTANS were somehow better. I'm with the 'I hope you smell feet. Forever.' guy.
Capone & Harry by Jaws Wayne	Dec 30th, 2008 06:04:45 PM
Both Capone & Harry seem to think shooting at talkers makes perfect sense, maybe all of the folks that write pieces for A.I.C.N do, I don't know that. Are all of you writers from Texas ? Anyway, yes, it's disturbing as hell. Make sure Yoko won't ever talk to you at the cinema Harry, because before you know it, things could get hairy. Or would that be different then ? Yeah.
MattmanReturns by codymr	Dec 30th, 2008 06:23:24 PM
Yup... I gotta agree. IJ4 is nowhere near a great film, but hardly horrible. Why do nerds have such a polarized view of the world? "It was AWESOME" or "It sucked ASS" seems to be the extent of their critical abilities. What is wrong with looking at something closely and thoughtfully and discussing its merits and drawbacks - I don't get it.
Slappy Jones... by Chief Joseph	Dec 30th, 2008 06:30:12 PM
...is an admitted theater-talker. Ignore his opinion on the shooting.
Swap WALL-E with SPEED RACER and I might agree! by TheGhostWhoLurks	Dec 30th, 2008 06:41:16 PM
WALL-E was easily the worst, most boring and annoying film I had the misfortune of paying money to see all year! And it's EASILY the most grossly overrated, just by looking at the fawning raves about it on the reviewers on AICN and across the country. It's the animated TITANIC of 2008, except I actually laughed out loud watching the ship sinking during Titanic. WALL-E couldn't even accomplish THAT, it was so crappy! >:(
Can Moriarty list his 10 best and worst films of 2008 by BDuncan	Dec 30th, 2008 06:42:02 PM
As I haven't seen any film reviews (by either Mori or anyone else) appear yet on the hitfix.com site, can Moriarty give his analysis on 2008's best and worst films, if he's still here.
Capone! You don't start "Best Of" Lists from the top. by Hamlet3145	Dec 30th, 2008 06:44:27 PM
Does Letterman give away the #1 Reason to Pee on a Cat first? Or does he do it last?
Drew McWeeney has posted his list of top 10 by YackBacker	Dec 30th, 2008 06:47:15 PM
and top almost 10 at hitfix.com. It's not that hard to find the articles, I just read them earlier today.
Talking at the movies is almost a lost art... by Chishu_Ryu	Dec 30th, 2008 06:52:41 PM
One of my best times ever at the movies was when two friends and I found ourselves all alone at a multiplex screening of the The Last Samurai, whereupon I and one friend spent the next two hours throwing witty and humorous heckles and obscenities, which MST3K would be proud of, at the Tom Cruise vehicular crapfest, to the apparent annoyance of the other friend but to the sheer and utter delight of ourselves and perhaps the projectionist upstairs. Good times...good times...
Doomsday was good dumb, fun by Ckuouka	Dec 30th, 2008 06:52:55 PM
I never got the impression at any point in the movie that they were doing anything other than re-creating their favorite scenes from a bunch of movies. I had fun watching it and it seemed like it must've been really fun to make. I don't think the movie pretends to be anything other than junkfood for the mind and I like it a lot more than something like Transporter or whatever.
I found a video that describes the way this list makes me feel.. by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 30th, 2008 06:56:23 PM
http://tinyurl.com/6vopvb
the visitor ?????HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA by Windowlicker74	Dec 30th, 2008 06:57:07 PM
what the fuck man? and what about the best movie of the decade? THE DARJEELING LIMITED???? oh man these lists suck so hard .
Negator76 Spot On by the_scream	Dec 30th, 2008 06:59:26 PM
nuff said
The Fall was horrible... by Fah-Cue	Dec 30th, 2008 07:03:26 PM
I'm an art film lover (Kubrick was the shizzle) and that junk by Tarsem -- although pretty to look at -- was like a very well made but vapid film school project. And Tropic Thunder was only funny because of Downey. The rest of it was tepid.
There's no such thing as a movie theater manager by Alfie Boy	Dec 30th, 2008 07:16:13 PM
They're all low intellect buffoons with non-transferable skills that supervise children who call themselves ushers. The multiplexes don't care about your movie-going experience. Just pack in the teens, who, because of foolish drinking age restrictions (you can decide which arab to shoot on a battlefield, you can choose the president of the USA, but you can't have a beer) have to go and act like douchebags in movie theaters rather than in clubs.
Props on nailing that SPEED RACER turd by BurnHollywood	Dec 30th, 2008 07:23:21 PM
Interspersed with thoughts of "What the fuck were the Wachowskis thinking?!" were thoughts of "What kind of tasteless cornballs would go for this kind of tacky bullshit?" At least I now have an answer to the second question.
Earth Stood Still by Judge Briggs	Dec 30th, 2008 07:27:20 PM
WAS SHIT! It's exactly why cute kids SHOULD NOT BE IN MOVIES!
Jaws Wayne... by Negator76	Dec 30th, 2008 07:27:41 PM
Holy shit, you have no idea what a slog 'Button' is. It's not even comparable to 'Zodiac', a movie that I loved. The only way you could even compare the two is to visualize it this way: Imagine if they gave the virtually nonexistent Dermot Mulroney character in 'Zodiac' a magic-realist backstory set in New Orleans. And then they edited out everything having to do with the murders and investigations. And then they hired a great actress, just to waste her by casting her as the boring love interest. and then they cut out all of Mark Ruffalo, Robert Downey, and Jake Gylenhall's scenes. And then they filmed Mulroney taking a shit for three hours. Looking at your watch? Fuck, you'll be looking for a razor to open up your veins before this thing ends. It's. Fucking. Brutal. Oops, and I almost forgot to mention, there are cheesy CGI hummingbirds, too. ABORT! ABORT!
American Teen by Series7	Dec 30th, 2008 07:29:34 PM
Watched that last night. And I really don't get what the big deal was? Other then the poster boy for a school shooter, there was nothing interesting about the movie. Also the rich girl being the school bully, and the Bi-polar girl being stupid and crazy. The only funny part was when the one popular kid dated the crazy girl to get more screen time. Also could they have found a whiter school? They had to hire professional actors to play the 2 minority roles seen in the movie. How was that movie considered a documentary? Also Man a Wire, don't get the love, WAYYYY too much shit was glossed over. We get it that French guy is into walking on wires. I thought Bigger, Faster, Stronger was the best doc I've seen in a long time. Also I dug the fact that this guy managed to put it all together. Makes me realize that I could make a movie. God American Teen was awful. I can't believe how hard everyone feel for it. The teens in Breakfast Club were more identifiable and realistic then that crap.
I am watching SPEED RACER on Blu-Ray now... by JackIsLost	Dec 30th, 2008 07:35:40 PM
and it is glorious fun, tons of inventive and energetic story-telling and 10x the imagination that went into the anemic WALL-E. I guess it is trendy for tired cynics to hate on the goofy, harmless joy of SPEED RACER while pretending that WALL-E's message was somehow subversive (ooh, an environmental message--about as edgy as "sharing is good"). I'm tired of it. WALL-E: // SPEED RACER: *1/2
Worst film of all time? Transylvania 6-5000... by Leafar the Lost	Dec 30th, 2008 07:43:19 PM
...was released in 1985; Jeff Goldblum, Ed Begley Jr, Geena Davis, and Michael Richards were in it. I vaguely remember being taken to it. It was a comedy, I think, but no one laughed. As a young person, it was physically painful for me to watch it. It was a form of child abuse.
where is Quantum of Solace? by dieanotherday	Dec 30th, 2008 07:46:32 PM
It should be in the best of list ... did you chicken out capone?
Quantum of Solace is on the real fucking list..... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 30th, 2008 08:05:08 PM
MY LIST! Fuck this Oscar Baiting bullshit. Grow some balls and watch some shit blow the fuck up.
My Best of 08 (Yeah, Even I Don't Give a Fuck) by Dataset	Dec 30th, 2008 08:12:20 PM
10- Miss Pettigrew Lives For a Day 9- Hellboy 2 8- The Bank Job 7- In Bruges 6- Control 5- Dark Knight 4- Forgetting Sarah Marshall 3- Iron Man 2- Wall-E 1- Let The Right One In. Haven't seen a movie in a month. Been moving, so I can't assess Button, Frost/Nixon or Valkyrie. Honarable Mentions for a b-movie: Mirrors and Wanted. The 2008 "Jury's Still Out" award goes to Smart People.
What the hell is wrong with shooting people? by ebonic_plague	Dec 30th, 2008 08:25:53 PM
This country was founded on shooting people. It is unpatriotic to NOT shoot people! Shootings create jobs... police, EMT's, lawyers, coroners... not to mention the freshly shot person's job, which will need to be filled. I know it's trendy to say you value human life and that murder is wrong, but honestly, what the hell else are you supposed to do with such people? Let them live? Fuck that! At least the guy had the forethought to bring a gun, if not, he would have had to beat that talker to death with his bare hands, and how much more of a distraction would that have been to the other theater patrons?
Australia by christpunchers2007	Dec 30th, 2008 08:32:57 PM
Lol horrible "epic" movie. "Lil' Creamy!" "Pride's not powrah Ms Ashley!"
just because of this article-- I'm gonna roll an empty beer bott by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 30th, 2008 08:41:48 PM
....down the aisle the next time I see a movie.
I am guilty of texting in a movie. by Tin Snoman	Dec 30th, 2008 09:05:52 PM
But it was Seven Pounds and I got bored. Please don't kill me. Also, I don't care if you liked Speed Racer or not, as long as you understand that it slavishly emulates its source material. Crappy dialogue and all. But I have a feeling that people think it was trying to be a proper film, which really isn't the case. It's just a live action version of a shitty 60s anime. I think if more people were a) familiar with the source material and b) actually nostalgic about it, they might like it. If nothing else, it's certainly loud and colorful and follows its source material accurately...
Speed racer is unwatchable by slappy jones	Dec 30th, 2008 09:06:13 PM
Pure garbage. But Indy 4 was worse
slappy jones = another disgruntled Matrix fan by Chishu_Ryu	Dec 30th, 2008 09:11:03 PM
= another lost orphan of George Lucas
Speed Racer is incredible by ballyhoo	Dec 30th, 2008 09:31:40 PM
Great visuals telling a great story. It's almost perfect.
Speed Racer is CANCER FOR THE EYEBALLS by Nasty In The Pasty	Dec 30th, 2008 09:46:18 PM
Good GOD, how anyone thinking person over the age of five can like that movie baffles me. Catapults throwing snakes into cars, that INSANELY fucking annoying kid, a monkey throwing it's feces in a bad guy's face...it was like the "beyond the infinite" sequence of 2001 stretched to 2 1/2 mind-numbing hours. Just utter crapola from start to finish. Not "fun" in the slightest. Like Sideshow Bob once said, "Sorry to distract your attention from all of the loud noises and shiny things...!"
Death Race was better than Speed Racer! by tombseye	Dec 30th, 2008 09:54:07 PM
Yes I dare say this! Uh, because it's a matter of opinion. Really neither movie was all that great. I was just in the mood for mindless action and Death Race gave it to me. Speed Racer was a lot of dazzling special effects but after seeing the cars drive on the side of the track 10 times I got over it. And Christina Ricci's head is too big for her body! Okay, that was out of line, but Speed Racer was pretty blah.
Speed Racer can go floss with my ass hair. by Flip63Hole	Dec 30th, 2008 09:56:24 PM
No sir, I didn't like it.
Nasty in the Pasty by Chishu_Ryu	Dec 30th, 2008 10:05:55 PM
"how anyone thinking person over the age of five can like that movie baffles me". When you turn six, maybe you'll understand.
Guilty pleasure of the 2008... by tombseye	Dec 30th, 2008 10:09:58 PM
Wanted! Oh man, my taste is slipping, but then I did like the pretentious flick about that chick in Barcelona. I kid, that was actually a pretty good flick from the Woodster.
Where's Gonzo in the best docu listings? by Spifftacular Squirrel Girl	Dec 30th, 2008 10:14:41 PM
Fantastic film about Hunter S. Thompson. Glad I got a chance to finally catch it off of Netflix. Also have to agree with the majority of the talkbackers that disagree with Speed Racer being the overall worst movie of the year. Any movie made by those idiots who keep cranking out films like Disaster Movie and Remember the Spartans should win that by default every year.
Also, I regret having messed with the Zohan by tombseye	Dec 30th, 2008 10:18:11 PM
'cause man that movie was bad. I mean, I know that crap in Gaza is going and it's 'timely' to some, but oh my dear lord that was a bad movie. Adam Sandler needs to maybe think about becoming an actual hairdresser 'cause the last flick he was good in was Punch Drunk Love and he was practically playing himself there. Narnia was very coma inducing as well. Harold and Kumar Dos was also a burb of a film. I liked the song from Semi-Pro more than the movie. Love Guru and Drillbit, man those films should be staked and buried like the celluloid vampires the are. So many bad films to watch and so little time.
Indy 4 better than the other sequels? Huh? by heks	Dec 30th, 2008 10:31:46 PM
I honestly cannot understand how anyone could think Indy 4 is better than Last Crusade or Temple of Doom. Indy 4 is not really an Indy movie at all. What made the other ones Indy movies is not present in Crystal Skull. I'm not going to get all into it again, but I've said all I have to say about the subject in this thread: http://www.aintitcool.com/talk back_display/36840 ... particularly the post dated 'May 23rd, 2008 02:06:46 PM'. I think the South Park episode 'The China Problem' got it right about Indy 4.
I think 'yer moma'... by maxwell's hammer	Dec 30th, 2008 10:32:12 PM
...is Ben Lyons in disguise. You ain't fooling us, Benny-boy!!
To all you SPEED RACER lovers by timmer33	Dec 30th, 2008 10:36:47 PM
So it was a good film, eh? Everyone loved it? "All my friends and everyone I talk to loved it?" Give me a break. That's why it did so well in the theaters, eh? It was TRASH. By far the worst of the year. Hands down.
milla jovovich by Jaka	Dec 30th, 2008 10:40:23 PM
Actually, no. The Matrix sequels were just THAT disappointing. They were just THAT MUCH of a let down. They just took all the potential of one of the best sci-fi flicks in many years, even with Kewhoanu, took a giant dump on it, and flushed. IMPO, people keep coming back to how bad they are because we, as geeks and a movie going public, were literally offended and insulted. The one thing I don't understand is why so many people go to the theater, presumably using their hard earned cash, to see movies that they even THINK might be bad. From the first moment I saw a trailer for Speed Racer I had no desire to ever see that film. Didn't go to the theater, haven't seen it since.
It's official! by Exasperilious	Dec 30th, 2008 10:41:26 PM
After this article I cannot trust Capone's opinion on movies. Benjamin Button was boring hollow dreck dressed up to fool everyone. What great character development, and let's not forget the whole bland middle!
SR was pure fluff...just like the cartoon... by conspiracy	Dec 30th, 2008 10:50:38 PM
and as such it is a fun way to waste a couple of hours when you've watched everything else. Not Great...but definitely not That bad either.
Best Film of 2009? by Alonzo Mosely	Dec 30th, 2008 11:01:30 PM
Paul Blart : Eyeball Raper...
Now Indy IV held me against a wall at knifepoint... by conspiracy	Dec 30th, 2008 11:01:42 PM
and sucked that little was left of my post prequel Lucas love right out of my still sore gaping ass. Indy IV was so bad I'd gladly watch Ep.1 "The Phantom Step-n-Fetch" It for all eternity rather than watch the hot mess that is Indy again. Lets put it this way..I returned from Disneyland on monday, I went on the Indiana Jones ride there 5 times in 2 days, I've ridden it literally dozens of times over the years, I know every last inch of that ride. So when I say that, forgetting the actual ride, that even the act of Standing for 45 minutes in the line for the ride, with thousands of sweaty, screaming, pushy tourists, was a better experience than watching Indy IV, well I hope you can understand the level of suck and fail Indy IV is to me.
timmer33 by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 30th, 2008 11:02:29 PM
No, actually my wife and I saw it on opening day and loved it. You know how many people were in the theater? Probably about 8 including us. And yes, it absolutely fucking bombed. Does that have any effect whatsoever on how much I enjoyed it? Nope. I don't need others to validate my opinion. I don't need to be reassured by a Top 10 list that my taste is indeed worthy. I enjoyed the fuck out of Speed Racer. It can be on the Worst Films of All Time list for the next 25 years and I could give a fuck. So FUCK OFF AND DIE. Fucking cunt.
wait wait wait by Varakor	Dec 30th, 2008 11:06:48 PM
most everyone is in defense of Speed Racer (and I do concur, SR was a lot of fun) but no one has said anything about Cloverfield being in the top 10?? Really? Cloverfield sucks the biggest, sweatiest, stinkiest balls and should never be ranked higher than SR.
Varakor...Agreed..Why isn't Cloverfuck in bottom 2? by conspiracy	Dec 30th, 2008 11:23:58 PM
Capone, what the Fuck? Cloverfield? Really? Better than SR? I ask you sir...what the FUCK are you drinking? Or, being a Chicago citizen, are you simply continuing that fine cities well earned reputation and stoking your fire with stack of cashed check stubs from Bad Robot?
"They raped our friend..." by br1947	Dec 30th, 2008 11:35:40 PM
There is absolutely no way that Speed racer is worse than Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. When you have an entire episode of South Park, complete with graphic rape scenes, dedicated entirely to how much a single movie sucked there is nothing you can do but declare it worst movie of the year. That shit stain abomination made Transformers look like freaking Gone with the Wind!
DGDB....well put by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks	Dec 31st, 2008 12:15:05 AM
eloquent, concise and correct.
Speed Racer, Iron Giant, etc. by Chishu_Ryu	Dec 31st, 2008 12:30:20 AM
There was another film released by WB called "Iron Giant" that completely bombed at the theaters. Box office receipts and how many of your friends saw it is no indicator of a film's quality. Now in comparison, Speed Racer is a much more daring non-conventional film than Iron Giant, and may never reach a mainstream audience. SR also has the negative stigma the Wachowski Bros. brought w/them from the Matrix sequels. Hence, I don't expect Speed to get some kind of resurrection in the now fast moving home video market. But whatever. I know what a great film is, and Speed Racer is a great fucking film. F*** Capone's list. You can't trust anybody from Chicago...
Oh and speaking of letdowns, Indy IV by tombseye	Dec 31st, 2008 12:53:11 AM
I, like so many other people here, have seen Raiders of the Lost Ark so many times I can recite it word for word and yet I can't find my car keys half the time! What did Indy IV do? It made Temple of Doom look like freakin' Schindler's List! It introduced a dopey son. Hell, fine he has a kid, but Shia, the flavor of the month?! And I would have thought they could've done better with him getting back with Marion, but they managed to blow that too. And the crystal skulls gimmick was hokey even by the fantastic Indy standards. Clearly, they waited too long to make the sequel. Ford did alright, but 10 or 15 years ago it would have been awesome as he would have looked vigorous as opposed to tired. This was the biggest letdown of 2008 by far. This movie was so bad that I had to retire my Raiders of the Lost Ark ringtone because kept associating it with the new movie! To be honest, the ringtone didn't last more than a day as I didn't realize how quickly I'd get sick of hearing that instead of a phone ringing. But I digress, Indy IV sucked and hopefully a reboot will happen rather than another sequel or a, gulp, Indy Jr. series of films.
Also.. by Jaka	Dec 31st, 2008 01:04:27 AM
...too many people assume that others here actually NEED the opinions of AICN "reporters" to form an opinion, which is simply not the case. Personally, in general, I like some of their opinions and I dislike others. I like the way some of them write and think others, well, are lacking. But since this is a TalkBack forum on a movie site about the same movies that we all have an opportunity to see, we're going to talk about those movies. Agreeing doesn't mean you're walking around trying to lick somebodies balls. But disagreeing doesn't mean you're trying to kick them, either. We're just discussing. Having a healthy debate. Ja know?
Would have liked to see an explanation for the worst list. by BurgerKing	Dec 31st, 2008 02:35:03 AM
Seems like you got lazy Capone writing up for the best or ran out of time so you just gave us a pile of movies we already know suck. I wanted to hear why YOU thought they were crap and poke fun at them. Damn you
My two cents... by KennyKilo	Dec 31st, 2008 02:36:50 AM
My Top Ten Movies of 2008: 10. "U2-3D: The I-MAX Experience," 9."The Visitor," 8. "I.O.U.S.A." 7. "Doubt," 6. "Revolutionary Road," 5. "Frost/Nixon," 4. "The Curious Case of Benjamin Buttons," 3. "The Dark Knight," 2. "WALL-E" 1. "Slumdog Millionaire Most overrated: "Milk" Under appreciated: (tie) "Miracle at Saint Anna" and "Reprise" Other worthy flicks: "Blindsight," "A Christmas Tale," "Cloverfield" "The Fall," "Gran Torino," "Son of Rambow," "Tell No One," "Trouble the Water," and "Vicki Christina Barcelona" Some of the worst: "Be Kind, Rewind," "Smart People," "Eagle vs. Shark," "The Happening," "Death Race," "Seven Pounds" I hope 2009 is better then the lackluster 2008!!!
disgruntled matrix fan? by slappy jones	Dec 31st, 2008 02:48:40 AM
umm I hate the first one....hated the second one and didnt bother with the third. love bound though.
oh and just saw ben button by slappy jones	Dec 31st, 2008 02:50:39 AM
loved it. great film. I can see the gump comparisons but they are not really that big. wonderful film though. and again speed racer was an unwatchable piece of garbage that with any luck just ended the careers of the two terrible director responsible. off to film jail with them pronto.
List needs more RAMBO. by Its a LION	Dec 31st, 2008 02:52:48 AM
And that's on the "best" list before some wiseass pipes up.
lost orphan of lucas? by slappy jones	Dec 31st, 2008 02:52:58 AM
no just another rational sane person who sees the prequels and indy 4 for what they are.
GO SPEED GO!!! by onezeroone	Dec 31st, 2008 02:54:52 AM
I guess Capone put Speed Racer on top of turd list just to get the talkbackers going, which he won't have manged to otherwise, going by comments for his choice of Speed Racer. You maight have been a great movie buff capone, but you've become more of a critic than a movie geek who can't recognize a cult-classic.
Capone, you are a piece of shit. by SkeletonParty	Dec 31st, 2008 04:12:44 AM
condoning shooting a father in front of his son is insane. I can't imagine how you could even joke about it. You are a dick. I hope your apartment refills with water. What if your chronic girlfriend talked during a movie. How would you feel if she was shot?
THE SPIRIT !!!!!! by PTSDPete	Dec 31st, 2008 04:19:52 AM
What the FUCK ?!? THE SPIRIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You know a movie is bad when.. by Stalkeye	Dec 31st, 2008 05:09:01 AM
you can't get through the first 15 minutes.And yes, I'm talking about speed racer.Sure I'm a huge fan of Anime, sure I give the Wachkis props for making a live action film based on a classic tatsunoko series as well as having a passion for anime and hk cinema.(Matrix was inspired by Ghost in the Shell after all.)But what I hate is a lame script and substituting stlye over substance. (flashy CGI does not gaurantee a good film.) Oh, and for the SR apologists, your credibility in defense of this film is invalid when you come off say "fuck you" to the naysayers.Those who explained why they love the film and what they saw different from the "haters", I take exception with.Let's all agree to disagree shall we?
Rambo wasn't a movie, it was a bunch of people getting shot and by FuryofthefilmFan	Dec 31st, 2008 06:41:38 AM
Stallone should be ashamed of himself making this movie and trying to use a real situation as a background for this film. A film that's only character development of it's main character was a flashback to the first film. All I keep hearing from people who loved Rambo was how cool the action was and if anybody doesn't like it how much of a fag they are. Gimme a break, the movie sucked and the only people who will enjoy that movie are people who like violence in their films for violence's sake.
Speed Racer is a cult classic by Volllllume3	Dec 31st, 2008 06:53:38 AM
And I MEAN it. Also Rambo was fucking awesome, anybody who didn't like it, is quite possibly a fag.
No character development? You didn't see... by Its a LION	Dec 31st, 2008 07:34:50 AM
...him tear that guy's fucking throat out?
FuryOfTheFilmFAG by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Dec 31st, 2008 07:37:16 AM
Go suck a herpes infected maggot covered rhino cock you wanker. Rambo was indeed violence for violence sake. And what's your point? You do know that the majority of films nominated for Oscars are built solely for the purpose of winning awards, right? So if you can have a film that only exists to take home Oscar gold, then why not a movie that is over-the-top violence just the sake of over-the-top violence? And the only reason dickheads like you slam the character development is because it has the name "Rambo", and that elitism 101. There was just as much character development in Rambo as there was in The Dark Knight. Hell, more even. At least when Rambo went apeshit, I believed it. I can't say the same for Harvey Dent.
Cool things about Crystal Skull by kwisatzhaderach	Dec 31st, 2008 07:38:52 AM
1. The Hound Dog opening sequence. 2. The fedora shadow on the side of the car. 3. The gunpowder flying through the air. 4. The hangar lights swinging magnetically forward. 5. The Doomtown sequence. 6. Shia's Wild One entrance. 7. The diner brawl/bike chase. 8. "What are you, 80?" 9. Preserved conquistadors. 10. Cate Blanchett's psychic soldiers speech. 11. Ford's expression when the snake lands on him. Priceless. 12. The jeep going along the side of the cliff. 13. William's 40s femme fatale theme for Spalko. 14. The skull's shadow fitting the alien pictogram on the wall. 15. The whole crystal skull chamber end sequence, apart from the rubbish CG alien.
Rambo slicing that dude by kwisatzhaderach	Dec 31st, 2008 07:42:11 AM
in half was pretty cool. It was nice to see an action film that wasn't a lot of cartoon bullshit.
In addition, Fury by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Dec 31st, 2008 07:47:16 AM
The only people who liked Rambo are those who are willing to acknowledge the film with the greatest stand up and cheer moment of the year. As Senior Dickblood would say, Rambo and Speed Racer being on my top ten list is a badge I wear with honor.
kwisatzhaderach by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Dec 31st, 2008 07:52:43 AM
Huh? Is that a joke? Gunpowder flying through the air? Whaaaaaa? You do know that gunpowder is NOT magnetic, right? I mean, really, if you're going to have a movie where you give an object a trait it doesn't have, why stop at gunpowder? Lucas should have gone all the way and put R2D2-type thrusters on the fridge and had Indy fly his way out of Doomtown.
FUCK YOU CRITICS for pickin on Speed Racer by knowthyself	Dec 31st, 2008 07:53:12 AM
Seriously in a year where Uwe Boll released TWO MOVIES you pick on the brilliantly fun Speed Racer? Fuck you guys.
AGAIN...Uwe Boll released TWO MOVIES this year... by knowthyself	Dec 31st, 2008 07:56:22 AM
..TWO. And neither one is the worst film of the year? Wow it just BOGGLES the mind what you fucking critics really are trying to do with these so called "choices".
Hawaiian Organ Donor Proves my point by FuryofthefilmFan	Dec 31st, 2008 08:16:15 AM
I've noticed Rambo attracts a certain crowd of people, the kind with the inability to share an opinion without puffing their chests and think they are manlier men for enjoying Rambo.You can defend whatever film you like , hell there's even people out there who loved meet the Spartans it's how they react to criticism that makes Rambo fans truly a douche kind. Thanks for proving my point.
Right on, knowthyself by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Dec 31st, 2008 08:16:44 AM
Call me an arrogant jerkoff, but the minute ANY critic picks Speed Racer as the worst film in a year populated with Meet The Spartans, 10,000 BC, Twilight, 88 Minutes, The Love Guru.....THE FUCKING LOVE GURU, then you lose all credibility as a film critic. And nobody should ever take you seriously again, much less pay your filthy maw to spout out gibberish about film. Once again, I can understand people not liking Speed Racer but to say it's worse than a Paris Hilton film? Nah, critic card revoked. The only thing you should be reviewing is shampoo.
FuryofthefilmFan by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Dec 31st, 2008 08:24:33 AM
Dude, get over it. You're the one who comes out swinging. You said Stallone should be ashamed for making the movie. Dude, that's insulting. He made a darn good action movie. If you don't like it, then say you don't like it. But don't say the writer-director should be ashamed and that the only people who enjoyed the movie are slope-headed neanderthals. Don't fire a salvo if you aren't prepared for the return fire. This is AICN. Things get harsh.
Speed Racer is on my top 10 list by crashbarbarian	Dec 31st, 2008 08:24:49 AM
I have to defend this movie. It brings things to the screen in fresh ways that have never been done before. If you can't appreciate what the directors were trying to accomplish then you aren't trying. I loved this movie and will probably defend it to the end!
I think we need to define WORST MOVIE. by knowthyself	Dec 31st, 2008 08:25:30 AM
People tend to think that somehow worst movie up for for debate. Can't we easily see which film was a technical disaster? Worst acting? Worst FX? Worst direction? Worst Music? Worst writing? Speed Racer had none of those things. in fact it tugged at my inner child. 10,000 B.C. made me want to claw my eyes out. You should have your geek license revoked for hating Speed Racer. Critics are dicks. But I expect at LEAST for fellow movie lovers and geeks to love the fuck outta speed racer. I suggest you get off this critic bandwagon your on Capone and get down to our level again.
DerLanghaarige by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Dec 31st, 2008 08:29:16 AM
But that's my point. If it's magnetic to non-magnetic items, then why stop at gold and gunpowder? Why not show kittens and pools of water circling around the warehouse? Choosing which non-magnetic items are going to be attracted to a magnetic device is writing the rules as you go along, and everyone knows that's a cardinal sin in cinema. Even an Indiana Jones movie needs some boundaries. If you're just going to make stuff up as you go along, then you might as well go all the way.
I love the staunch speed racer defence. Hilarious by slappy jones	Dec 31st, 2008 08:38:38 AM
Shame that the ten of you were the only ten to go see the wretched piece of shit. It deserved it's fate as the potentially career ending turkey that it was.
The Good, The Bad and The Remake by TrueLies	Dec 31st, 2008 08:41:58 AM
I saw a lot of movies this year. Most were entertaining but had no lasting effect. Harrison Ford driving an open-front truck though the jungle as the branches slap him in the face? Haven't we seen this before? TDK was a spectacle. It wasn't instantly forgettable but not really that memorable either. Movie math: youtube+Godzilla=Cloverfield. I saw it. It was OK. Where are we going for dinner? A movie critic who has to see several movies a day once said the highest compliment he could give a movie is "I would see it again". I'm not a movie critic just a busy guy. What would I see again? Let The Right One In. An 11-year old, completely serious, deadly vampire moves in next door? That's something new. And well done. Can't wait for the DVD. There will be an English-language remake. I will have to see it and afterwards will wish I had Ebola instead.
People shooting other people by The Curious Dr Humpp	Dec 31st, 2008 08:47:26 AM
Capone, I really enjoy your reviews, your interviews and I more or less agree with about every title in your Best and Worst-list, but really, putting "victim" in quotes is just sickening beyond repair. Yeah, I hate people talking during movies as well, but there is no justification - none whatsoever - for SHOOTING somebody in a movie theatre for talking, texting, fucking or whatever he or she may be doing while a movie is playing. Seriously, if Fox only allowed ONE screening of Watchmen EVER and the film would be destroyed after that, and you happened to get tickets to that particular screening and then some douchebag decided to talk through the entire thing, then STILL it wouldn't give you the right to shoot that person.
slappy jones by logicalnoise01	Dec 31st, 2008 08:48:22 AM
$93,394,655 worldwide + 800,000+ dvd units sold by the end of october means you're a fucking moron it's made it's money back and will continue to make money.
Let's break speed racer down. by slappy jones	Dec 31st, 2008 08:54:28 AM
Wooden acting from otherwise dependable cast?ssness Wooden acting from otherwise dependable group of stars? Check Cg overload and complete lack of realism at any level creating a real feeling of cold souledsness? Check Terrible dialogue?check Hhmm funny that it is guilty of pretty much all the same things as those fucking shitnty prequels. A fucking joke
slappy jones by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Dec 31st, 2008 08:54:41 AM
I'm not defending Speed Racer. How many times haven't I said I can understand people not liking it? I loathed, on a level I didn't think possible, both Crystal Skull and The Dark Knight. For me, to call them shit is an insult to shit. But deep down I realize I can't let my disappointment with each elevate my opinion of movies that were actually worse. In the end, as much as I want to call Indy 4 the worst movie of the year, I realize that title has to go to a more worthy candidate like Love Guru or Sex and the City. I enjoyed 30 seconds of Indy, I can't say the same for the other two. And any movie critic worth a damn would admit there were far worse cinematic abortions this year than Speed Racer.
slappy jones- speed failed to get asses in the seats. by knowthyself	Dec 31st, 2008 08:54:51 AM
But it seems the people who are watching it on video love it. Love it enough to defend it and love it enough to keep it alive where so many films this year will be forgotten. Critics were so wrong on this one. How they all got together to decide to all hate this film is beyond me. Critics are fucking douche bags who jump on band wagons to look "hip". How else could anyone explain how fucking the worst comedy of the year...FORGETTING SARAH MARSHALL..got a huge cock suck by critics? I think I could hardly cough up a chuckle let alone a laugh on a film that Roeper called one of his top ten best comedies of all time. Insanity.
lack of realism -LOL by knowthyself	Dec 31st, 2008 08:56:57 AM
Slappy...did you even SEE THE TRAILER? Lack of Realism? What did you think you were going to watch? Kramer v Kramer?
Lets break down speed racer. by knowthyself	Dec 31st, 2008 09:00:13 AM
Surprisingly good performances. The line reading puts confidence in me that we can put actors in front of green screen and get something great out of them. Despite what Lucas spent 6 years destroying. The classic evil corporation versus the little guy is a classic tale and speed gets it right on all levels. The ending gets me every time. Its so good to see Speed win against all odds. "Get that shit off my track" just wins the film for me. The film is fun, it has style, the music is classic, and the direction is inspired. The wachowskis wanted to make a live action anime and got it right where so many have got it wrong.
Only one person... by Varakor	Dec 31st, 2008 09:06:02 AM
notices that Cloverfield ranks fucking higher than speed racer??? REALLY!!!!!????? Gaaaaaaaaaah!! That's fucking bullshit!! Cloverfield was god damn awful Godzilla wanna be. It failed, it sucked balls, it just plain SUCKS!! How the hell can that film make it on anyone's top anything!? Why I ask you? Why? Sorry folks I haven't had my coffee yet, so I'm a little miffed right now lol. but fucking cloverfield?????? Fuuuuuuuck!!
I will defend to my death my right to by skimn	Dec 31st, 2008 09:07:08 AM
a)hate, love, admire, loathe, cream my pants over the latest b)cd, movie, dvd, television show, book. If you c)agree, disagree with me then please feel free to d)admit you're gay, suck my balls, join the club, come to your senses, JUSTIFY MY OPINION.
DerLanghaarige by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Dec 31st, 2008 09:07:15 AM
Ummmm, nooooooooo. Kittens and water are MORE metallic than gunpowder. What is gunpowder? Potassium nitrate. Zero metal. Sulfur. Zero metal. Charcoal. Maybe an atom of two of metal, depending on the carbon it was derived from. Water and kittens on the other hand, FULL of metals. Iron, calcium, copper, zinc, magnesium, cobalt. And yes, they DID make the rules as they went along. The skulls attract gunpowder from the other side of the warehouse, but not rifles that are two feet away. So they gave the skull SELECTIVE magnetism. That's making the rules up to suit your needs.
people people...calm down!! by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 31st, 2008 09:13:20 AM
I think we can all agree that CRANK 2 will fist fuck your dead mother in the throat. To quote The Stath: "LETS FUCK SOME YANKS IN THE ASS."
Danny, thank the maker by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Dec 31st, 2008 09:16:23 AM
Now I have someone to back me up about Speed Racer, Rambo and Indy 4 this morning. And while utilizing colorful metaphors.
Capone should hang out with the shooter. by mrfan	Dec 31st, 2008 09:22:51 AM
He can help him fix his roof that was damaged that one time instead of asking talkbackers to give money to help him. They would make a good pair.
"Was that a ninja?' by Fuzzyjefe	Dec 31st, 2008 09:28:28 AM
"More like a non-ja." That line alone is why Speed Racer will endure forever. Go Speed Go.
mrfan by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 31st, 2008 09:29:35 AM
MUHAHAHAHAHA!! "Don't feel obligated....I uhhhh, don't even know why I'm doing this....a friend set up a paypal account for me and uhhhh.....yeah, just please donate whatever you can as soon as you can and make the donation as large as you possibly can!! But don't feel obligated!! SEND ME MONEY NOW OR I WILL SHOOT YOU IN THE FUCKING FACE!"
LT by Mr. Nice Gaius	Dec 31st, 2008 09:30:34 AM
Wow. We obviously didn't see the same movie.
Is that what Capone did? by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Dec 31st, 2008 09:35:19 AM
Asked us to send donations to a Paypal account?
Speed racer problems? by crashbarbarian	Dec 31st, 2008 09:38:25 AM
wooden acting... it is supposed to be a cartoon with real actors? hello!!!! if the people were cartoons and this had pixar slapped on the cover you guys would sell your souls to be the first to praise it's existance... come on.. find a real flaw you morons!
knowthyself by crashbarbarian	Dec 31st, 2008 09:39:45 AM
we should watch movies together, i bet we'd never disagree!
HOD-- yes by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 31st, 2008 09:41:07 AM
I mention it several times up above. It was about a year ago if I'm not mistaken. There was a big storm in Chicago or some shit. His building was one of the ones that had the roof torn off. He came on here and posted this massive post claiming he was asking for donations but here is a paypal account just in case you want to send him some cash. I think he was saying Harry made him do it. Anyway....that guy, condoning shooting people with a child next to them for talking during a Brad Pitt movie!! Yeah!! Wonderful human being!
I'm sorry-- CLAIMING HE WAS NOT ASKING FOR DONATIONS... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 31st, 2008 09:42:12 AM

Really...let's break down Speed by ZoeFan	Dec 31st, 2008 09:43:18 AM
Wooden acting from otherwise dependable cast...If memory serves me correct the deliverance of the lines from the cartoon were just as wooden. Cg overload and complete lack of realism at any level creating a real feeling of cold souledsness? Once again, if memory serves me correctly the cartoon was a complete overload of color and lack of realism. Terrible dialogue...Funny, the cartoon featured that same terrible dialog. What the bashers of Speed Racer are failing to comprehend is the movie was just taking the goofy, quirky, sometimes awful idiosyncrasies from the cartoon. Chances are at around 100% that if you hated the cartoon, you hate the movie. If you can at least watch a few episodes of the cartoon without pulling your hair out, you'll enjoy the movie. Generally the biggest complaint about a film is that it didn't stay true to the source. In the case of Speed, it's getting criticized for staying SO true to the source.
Capone you are wrong about Speed Racer being the worst by Big Jim	Dec 31st, 2008 09:54:28 AM
movie of the year. Didn't like it? Fine. But how can you justify it being worse than those you put in the #2 spot? You say "It physically hurts me to watch so many people try so hard to entertain me and come up with something so astonishingly mediocre." Is that worse than a movie like Disaster Movie, where no on tried and they came up with something so predictably terrible? I disagree with those that believe Disaster Movie gets a pass because no one expected it to be anything other than awful. Any film with a $10 million or more budget is playing in the big leagues and should be held to the same standard as everything else. Disaster movie was the 4th film for those guys and had a budget of $20 million. I would rather see a dozen films like Speed Racert (films that tried and failed) than see one more Disaster Movie type movie (no one tries and no one cares about the quality of the finished product, all they care about it a quick cash-grab). And another thing: Speed Racer had Richard Roundtree; Disaster Movie had Kim Kardashian. It is not possible that any movie with Shaft is worse than one with that amateur porn pseudo-celebrity. I'm guessing you did not see The Hottie & The Nottie (few did it seems). When released many critics didn't just hail it as the worst movie of the year but the worst movie of all time. I wonder Capone, if you had seen Paris Hilton's magnus opus, would you still have listed Speed Racer as the worst movie of 2008?
Massa just hsit all over your list capone by logicalnoise01	Dec 31st, 2008 09:57:06 AM
made you like a lazy fuck who threw up as you going down on me.
The Pixar Movie Model by DougMcKenzie	Dec 31st, 2008 10:06:03 AM
Is so ridiculously one note. Toy Story: toys who act like... PEOPLE! And they overcome adversity too! Bug life: Bugs who act like... People! Monsters inc.: Monsters who act like... PEOPLE!. and they overcome adversity! Finding Nemo: Fish who act like... PEOPLE! and they overcome adversity! Cars: Cars who act like... PEOPLE! and they overcome adversity! Ratatouille: Rats who act like... PEOPLE! And they overcome adversity! Wall-E: Robots who act like... PEOPLE! and they overcome adversity! Psshh other than the incredibles they have just taken the successful business model of Toy Story and duplicated it with a new object to once again act like... PEOPLE!
Speed Racer was fucking atrocious, unwatchable crap! by Motoko Kusanagi	Dec 31st, 2008 10:08:51 AM
I can't believe that there are four or five morons on this board that keep defending this steaming pile of ape shit. Seriously.
Speed gets no love. by Asaraiel	Dec 31st, 2008 10:25:51 AM
When it should get tons. A fun movie that captured the idea of a "live action anime". Unfortunately, just like anime, it's polarizing. But you know what? A gorgeous movie that's a lot of fun with a real heart that says something really positive about the value of a good, supportive family... well, that's rare. And deeply appreciated.
How anyone could say 'Speed Racer' is worse than 'Love Guru' by Kurutteru Yatsu	Dec 31st, 2008 10:31:25 AM
Is beyond me. I stopped 'Guru' at least three times just to get up and walk away from the tragedy unfolding before me, and only finished it in the vain hope that at some point, SOMETHING funny would happen. It never did. 'Speed' on the other hand, while far from perfect, was definitely watchable and looked amazing to boot. I'm all for a man holding his own opinions but Capone, you done lost your damn mind.
Speed Racer was worse then The Happening? by Xiphos_2	Dec 31st, 2008 10:55:01 AM
I have not seen Speed Racer but I can state with utter conviction that The Happening was the worst movie I've seen this year and perhaps one of the worst movies EVER made. The Happening showed that Shammy should only be allowed to direct Wal Mart commercials as long as sombody else writes it.
SPEED RACER WILL GATHER MORE FANS OVER TIME by Earthquake WestCoast	Dec 31st, 2008 10:57:18 AM
While most films will lose the fans they had over time because in reality they weren't that great(wall-e, the dark knight,), but people are afraid to admit that because of what their peers will think, and most people want to fit in and not rock the boat. But, SPEED RACER was a great film, a film that some people said they didn't like because their friends said it wasn't good, and they don't want to be the oddball saying that they like it. Well, in time SPEED RACER will gather MILLIONS of fans when other films lose theirs. More and more people will come out of the closet "so to speak" involving speed racer.
But You Never Saw SPEED RACER, Motoko Kusanagi! by LaserPants	Dec 31st, 2008 10:59:16 AM
You saw the trailers, realized it wasn't T2: WE WUB WOO ROBODADDY, and decided to hate it. It would be different if you saw it and hated it, then your opinion would have some validity. As it stands, you just seem silly. I thought it was fuckin' great, but I can understand why some people hated it. It's loud, fast, colorful, psychedelic and totally insane; a popart explosion of awesome, and therefore perhaps too much for some people (especially senior citizens). Also, its way too long -- shoulda been 90 minutes tops. But other than that, its pretty much a dead-on adaptation of the loopy insanity of the original anime. Probably would've been better if it was done cheaper, more geared to adults, and campier / more 60s retro, but I still think the way it was done was pretty friggin' cool and unlike anything I've ever seen. I wouldn't call it a "great" movie, but I loved it. Oh, and yes, I say "some people hated it" because most people WHO ACTUALLY BOTHERED TO SEE IT (a rather small number since, as the numbers show, almost nobody even bothered to see it when it was in the theaters), liked it a whole helluva lot. Everyone I know who has seen it since on DVD say how much they love it. Hmm... exactly as I knew it would. It's this generations TRON -- a movie TOO FAR AHEAD of the curve. Expect a reboot in 10, 20 years when its been firmly established as a beloved cult fave. Also, Motoko, you might want to take the time to actually watch the thing. Then feel free to hate it as much as you need to.
GO SPEED RACER! AWESOME FILM!!! by Earthquake WestCoast	Dec 31st, 2008 11:02:56 AM
Speed Racer was a great film! Great acting! Fun! The story was touching, especially involving the fall of Speed's older brother "Rex". It's a movie not for everyone though. It needed to be trim by 30 minutes. But, it was a fun film that took you to a world you haven't seen before. It was a truly cinematic piece of art that will live and become stronger in time. Haters of Speed Racer can go back and watch "Dancing with the Stars" or "American Idol".
For Me, INDY 4 Was By Far The Worst Of The Year by LaserPants	Dec 31st, 2008 11:08:34 AM
I think it makes THE PHANTOM MENACE look like THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK.
Nah, Capone shows savy by not listing INDY 4 by parnellbc	Dec 31st, 2008 11:20:57 AM
Indy 4 was a good and entertaining film. I really liked it but at least understand some peoples issue with it. However with so many true turds to pick IJ isn't even close.
Let's not over state things, LaserPants by I Dunno	Dec 31st, 2008 11:24:34 AM
Sure Indy 4 was disappointing but worse than the other movies on that list? Come on. That's just irrational hatred there.
RIGHTEOUS KILL by codymr	Dec 31st, 2008 11:27:13 AM
It's a shame this didn't work the way HEAT did in the 90s. I can see why Capone put it on his "Worts Of 2008" list. A shame.
To be fair INDY 4 sucked too. by Stalkeye	Dec 31st, 2008 11:28:25 AM
Talk about beating a dead horse off. Instead of letting Jones ride off into the sunset in last Crusade, the greedy powers that be spielberg,Ford and lucas go at it one more time and judging by it's reception or lack thereof, it's the very last time. hang up the Hat for good Harrison. The trend of geriatric celluloid heroes are bygone...although Rambo was actually good to my surprise.
Motoko by Jaws Wayne	Dec 31st, 2008 11:30:00 AM
My little wish for 2009 is we won´t have to read that stupid line every fuckin single day in every single fuckin thread until the Cameron movie hits the theatres. As for you calling people morons for being fans of a film you didn´t like, kid, stop whining like a 13 year old girl and get a life. Happy new year kid.
Yeah, Maybe Irrational, But I Really Hated INDY 4 by LaserPants	Dec 31st, 2008 11:32:08 AM
Maybe not THE worst, but definitely one of the worst.
Speed Racer? Howza about Indy4? by Pope Flick	Dec 31st, 2008 11:37:19 AM
Let's face it, Speed racer pwned Indy 4, as I kept waiting for Ford to break a hip during the filming. If you didn't enjoy the racetrack wrapping around Speed's head in the classroom and enveloping him then you simply didn't get it.
Hawaiian Organ Donor by heks	Dec 31st, 2008 11:38:35 AM
You said: "And yes, they DID make the rules as they went along. The skulls attract gunpowder from the other side of the warehouse, but not rifles that are two feet away. So they gave the skull SELECTIVE magnetism. That's making the rules up to suit your needs." And let's not forget that a wooden crate was not enough to stop the non-magnetic gunpowder from being attracted from the far side of the warehouse but it WAS enough to stop the metallic lights from being pulled towards the skull. Once it was removed from the wooden crate, however, all the lights were pulled towards it as it was moved. Ridiculous. I just really don't understand how this movie can even be compared to the previous ones. I've now seen this movie at least 6 times (I know, I'm a sucker for punishment) and it actually gets worse with each viewing rather than better. What originally seemed like missteps now come across as huge blundering pratfalls. The original movies were B-movie setups with A-movie writing, performances and execution. Indy 4 is a C-movie with B-movie writing, performances and execution. Even good actors are reduced to giving bad performances because the script they were given was so horrendous. And as for people who try to excuse the bad FX because 'they were intending to make a 50's B-movie', I don't buy it ... not for a second. If they were really going for a 50's B-movie than they should have used crappy practical effects rather than obviously bad CG effects that look like little cartoons composited onto the screen. Crappy CG compositing and backgrounds does not give the feeling of a 50's B-movie in the least.
I dunno Zoefan. Re: Speed Racer's source material by Stalkeye	Dec 31st, 2008 11:38:59 AM
I can't really comment on the cartoon series as I never watched most of the vintage episodes besides I'm more inclined to check out the original Japanese incarnation: Mach Go GO.American's had a habit of butchering japanese cartoons in order to cater to 7 year olds (with the noted exception of Robotech) and I'm sure the original version of Mach/Speed Racer had darker overtones. if you guys like the movie for what it was "originally" intended to be, then fine.As for me I lost all patience with this as well as most Anime-to-Live action films.After the shitfest that was Casshern and devilman..Never again!!
INDY 4 was indeed the WORST FILM OF 2008. by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 31st, 2008 11:46:19 AM
All things must be taken into consideration. I'm talking budget, the caliber of talent involved, and the previous films. When you factor that in with some of the worst dialogue I've ever heard, shit casting, shit photography, shit music (how do you make an Indiana Jones score sound like ass?!!) and an overall horrid viewing experience-- then yes. This is by far the worst film of the year. Obviously you'd be a fuck idiot to compare Indy IV to Hottie And The Nottie. Hottie was made for the budget for Shia's nose powder, and I'm pretty sure it was never intended to be decent. If the filmmakers themselves really can give a fuck about the finished product, than it shouldn't be judged the same. The Beards set out to make the pivotal Indiana Jones film for "THE FANS." They really thought they were gonna go end up with a classic with this piece of shit.
Jesus by ChocolateJesus	Dec 31st, 2008 11:47:37 AM
Speed Racer's the worst movie of the entire year, and Forgetting Sarah Marshall is in the top twenty? I'm not sure what dimension this is, but I'm pretty sure I'm just a visitor here.
BTW 379+ posts later and no Johnno saying... by Stalkeye	Dec 31st, 2008 11:47:38 AM
..how "Speed racer and The Wachowskis own your ass"? Someone wake him up! The SR apologi...um I mean admires are in need of more support to even the playing field.
Stalkeye by heks	Dec 31st, 2008 11:48:59 AM
I'm not going to comment on the motives of Steve and George, but I don't think it's fair to Ford say his motive was greed. He's been saying since the very early 90's that he would play Indy again "in a New York minute" because he enjoyed the character so much. My feeling about Ford in this movie is that he just really wanted a chance to play Indy again and this seemed like it might be the only chance he was gonna get, so he did the best he could with what he was given. If this script came along 8 years ago, I'd bet you he would have said no way and waited for a better one, but after 10 years of script rewrites with none of the scripts being stellar (even Darabont's wasn't great, but George deserves a huge portion of blame for forcing the alien storyline) I think he just gave in and did the only Indy movie it seemed he could. The result was an extremely sub-par Indy movie. As a fan it makes me sick to watch, but I also don't feel I can blame Ford for his choice because I probably would have done the same thing if I were in his position.
Don't defend yourself LaserPants by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Dec 31st, 2008 11:52:58 AM
From the perspective of budget, years it took to make, the pedigree of the actors, director, producers and film crew, Indy 4 was the worst movie of the year. It took me a long time to finally admit to myself The Love Guru was a worse movie, but that script wasn't 19 years in the making, Jessica Alba isn't exactly a thespian and who the hell is Marco Schnabel. The Love Guru had nothing going for it. Indy 4 had the world going for it. It didn't need to be world altering but it wasn't even slightly entertaining. How can something with Ford, Spielberg, Lucas, Williams, Marshall, Kennedy and Kaminski not be entertaining? That's a bigger crime Madoff's ponzi scheme.
Hawaiin Organ donor...Don't! by FuryofthefilmFan	Dec 31st, 2008 12:20:31 PM
Don't lecture me in the rules of AICN war. What I said about Stallone's film was far more respectable than what most people say about films they don't like. You're the one who rambled on with a string of obscenities as if you just finished hearing your big brother curse for the first time and you wanted to impress your friends. You wanna defend Rambo go right ahead but do so without sounding like some redneck Republican
LaserPants by kwisatzhaderach	Dec 31st, 2008 12:36:18 PM
The T2 hatred is really making you look stupid. Seriously.
The Love Guru by ZoeFan	Dec 31st, 2008 12:37:10 PM
When Justin Timberlake is the best thing going for a movie you know there's problems.
Indy 4... by DeeJay	Dec 31st, 2008 12:39:50 PM
... was strange, in that the first 2 Indy films seemed to modernized the classic swashbuckler genre from what may have been back in the Saturday morning serial days. The 4th installment, however, seemed to try so hard at conjuring-up the feel of those old school movies that it actually took a few steps backward. While I'm sure there were people who loved the movie--- and I personally liked the fact that Ford got another run, along with Lebouf getting such an opportunity--- folks like me actually watched much of the movie in disbelief. I was really trying to like it up to the point where Ford pulled out that silly-looking crystal skull. At that point, I "got" it, but just didn't like it. Maybe I'll appreciate the film after some time passes, though.
FuryFan, you're an ass by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Dec 31st, 2008 12:40:09 PM
So you can SLAM Stallone and Rambo sounding like a politically correct, hemp wearing, amnesty liberal wacko, but shame on me for pounding my chest over it? You're a hypocrite and an idiot.
Hawaiian Organ Donor by kwisatzhaderach	Dec 31st, 2008 12:40:12 PM
They explained that in the film. But even if they hadn't it wouldn't have bothered me, I don't go to an Indiana Jones film looking for realism.
stooopider by kwisatzhaderach	Dec 31st, 2008 12:42:25 PM
That's 7 words.
is this end of the year gang-pile? by Jonah Echo	Dec 31st, 2008 12:42:43 PM
Has anyone taken a swing at The Happening yet? Because to think Speed Racer or Indy was worse than that stinking heap... Between Rambo and Indy, I still have memories of seeing Rambo but I often forget I even watched Indy 4. Took a second viewing to make the point, but yes, it's a waste of time, resources and most importantly franchise goodwill.
T2 Hate?!! Where?!! I gotta jump on board with this..... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 31st, 2008 12:42:52 PM
....terrible fucking movie with even worse acting. The best thing to come out of that piece of shit is the GnR video for "You Could Be Mine" featuring AHHHHNOLD walking around the stage mad-dogging everyone.
Danny Boy by kwisatzhaderach	Dec 31st, 2008 12:45:28 PM
I think it's safe to say Adam Greenberg's photography, Brad Fiedel's score, ILM's fx, the canal chase and about a million other things are better than the You Could Be Mine video.
I love U best for being my DOC scouter Capone!!! by Prague23	Dec 31st, 2008 12:45:32 PM
And indeed for posting a best of list of docs separate (but equal) from the 'rest'. Stay cool, right where you are, on top of things.
There's T2 hate? WTF? by I Dunno	Dec 31st, 2008 12:50:34 PM
WTF was wrong with T2? Bad acting from the kid maybe but it was still in at least the top 5 action movies of the 1990's. Too bad T3 had to shit all over its conclusion, just as Alien^3 shit all over Aliens. If any Cameron film needed to be shat upon it's Titanic, where Leo turns out to be alive, only to be shot in the face by Billy Zane. But I digress. But yeah, the GnR song kicked ass.
Hawaiin Organ donor I want to punch you right in the nose by FuryofthefilmFan	Dec 31st, 2008 12:57:07 PM
HEY DUMMY, scroll up and look how you acted, You basically proved my point that most people who defend Rambo defend it in such a way that they sound like jackasses. Pound on your chest all you want, sing, cry, guffaw, I can care less. you still proved my point.
kwisatzhaderach by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 31st, 2008 01:00:20 PM
Uhhh no. T2 is garbage. Its as it was written by an actual machine trying to replicate human emotion. That Father/Son thing....yuck. Even my 13 year old self found it to be corny. The photography is bland. Everything is blue....oooooooooh, amazing! And the score?! Uhhhhh. Yeah. They kept the same notes. Dropped the cheap synth shit and put in heavy percussion. Genius, absolutely genius!! The effects in The Abyss are better and the morph in Willow still kicks everyone else's ass. So fuck off T2.
Jonah Echo by Xiphos_2	Dec 31st, 2008 01:04:54 PM
Scroll up to 10:55:01 AM and check out the title and post.
This thread is great, and funny by Jaka	Dec 31st, 2008 01:05:08 PM
I'll CERTAINLY admit that I haven't seen SR yet, and maybe never will. Having said that, I'll still ALSO admit that there was definitely worse movies released in 2008. Thankfully, I didn't see them either. In regards to Indy, I don't think it was one of the worst movies of the year, just one of the biggest disappointments. And there is definitely a HUGE difference there. UNfortunately, I did see The Happening, and that may be one of the worst movies EVER, not just of 08. Rambo, personally, I really enjoyed it. It wasn't perfect, but it was definitely a Rambo movie, and some of us really wanted/needed that. T2, I have to agree, TERRIBLE acting from "the kid". At the time, when I was MUCH younger, seeing it in the theater, I thought it was pretty cool. But now his acting just takes me right out of the suspension of disbelief. I just don't dig it anymore. It's got some great parts, but on the whole I don't believe it comes anywhere near the greatness of the first film. And I refuse to watch the third one again. WTH was the point of making that pile? Looking forward to the new one - quite a lot actually.
Ben Button vs. The Gumpster by Jaka	Dec 31st, 2008 01:08:49 PM
Interesting take. I wish I hadn't read it before I saw BB. I'm still going to see it, though. Because I love Pitt and Fincher and it looks interesting to me. I don't mind that it may be slow - I dig slow, meditative movies. I also like every actor in the dang thing. So I'm wondering if that's what it comes down to. Maybe I'm going in predisposed to the fact that I'm going to like it. Can't say for sure, but I know I'm going to check it out this weekend.
Yes! Bring Forth The Hatred Of T2: WE WUB WOO ROBODADDY by LaserPants	Dec 31st, 2008 01:10:52 PM
I've gone on at hilariously pointless length in other threads about how and why I HATE T2: WE WUB WOO ROBODADDY, so I won't go into it again here, but I must say I am happy to see the fire of T2 hatred catching on. People are finally starting to realize how awful it actually is.
LaserPants and Danny Boy by kwisatzhaderach	Dec 31st, 2008 01:16:56 PM
Pants, the fire of T2 hatred isn't catching on, it's just you and Danny Boy. I respect that you don't like T2, everybody doesn't like the same things. But to say that T2 is 'garbage' and 'awful' just shows a complete lack of knowledge about filmmaking.
Capone, how come you left off "Towelhead" ? by Magic Rat	Dec 31st, 2008 01:18:49 PM
I just re-read your review of it after seeing the film for myself and I was just as blown away as you were. Did you forget about it?
FuryofthefilmFan, take a number get in line by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Dec 31st, 2008 01:29:05 PM
Look, I resorted to vulgarity because this is AICN. And let's face it, most of us were already on a roll. Capone set the tone for a flame war the instant he shoved his head up his arse and pegged Speed Racer as the year's worst. But you came out like a mad dog, albeit a literate mature mad dog, when you both insulted Stallone and fans of the movie. If you're going to insinuate that the sole reason I enjoyed the movie was because there was more dismemberment than the Spanish Inquisition and I rubbed raw hamburger over my chest and howled like a coyote whenever a head popped off, then you best be prepared for the thunder. As violent as Rambo is, it isn't torture porn. It wasn't some hack twisted fuck director having a bunch of innocent teenagers sliced and diced for the audiences sick amusement. It was a bunch of Burmese scumbags (who stood in for just about any group of savages killing innocent people around the globe at any given moment) getting their just desserts. It felt good. It was therapeutic. Guys like me can either spend hundreds prattling away our worries and fears to some quack, or we can rent Rambo and come out cured of what ails us. Save for Obama getting elected and Bush preparing to leave office, it was a terrible year. The little guy got screwed over by the big evil empire of greed and corruption. There's no such thing as bad people getting what they deserve in the news. That ain't real life, son. So when a filmmaker can give me 90 minutes of stand up and cheer retribution, I'll take it in all it's organ grinding glory.
T2 = Every Michael Bay Movie by LaserPants	Dec 31st, 2008 01:34:44 PM
Search your voluminous knowledge of filmmaking, you know it to be true.
Hawaiin Organ donor. you have totally redeemed yourself with me by FuryofthefilmFan	Dec 31st, 2008 01:38:10 PM
that was one fine comment, you now have my respect.
kwisatzhaderach by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 31st, 2008 01:44:52 PM
I know plenty about filmmaking. Don't try and tell me I'm an uninformed fool if I don't like a film. Fuck you. That goes along with that elitist "You just didn't get it" bullshit. Stuff that notion up your fucking ass. To me T2 was fucking garbage. The effects were revolutionary for the time, so sure-- the effects are good, I'll give you that. A good film that does not make. Arnie giving a thumbs up as he is lowered into a vat of lava = FUCKING COMICAL.
extends hand across the aisle by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Dec 31st, 2008 01:47:12 PM
Glad I could be of service, FuryFan. I'll buy the next round.
HOD by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 31st, 2008 01:47:48 PM
If you remember from way back......the Burma situation standing in for all inhuman fucks over the world is what sorta bothered me about Rambo. So I can see where Fury is coming from to an extent. I would have rather the villains be completely fictitious actually-- like on a fake island or something. Because to me, understanding the conflict in Burma, I wasn't so pumped up by the end. I was left thinking....fuck I wish there really was a Rambo and he could help those poor bastards out. But there isn't. Fuck.....fuck. But that being said. Its still a damn fine action film.
Speed Racer was transcendant by oisin5199	Dec 31st, 2008 01:49:37 PM
Capone is simply wrong. This film was utter genius and I enjoyed every cg-soaked, eye-candy second of it. Saw it in IMAX, tripped for days. (from the movie effects, no drugs needed). And yeah, I watched Speed Racer as a kid. So there.
Regardless of the Burma... by Jaka	Dec 31st, 2008 01:51:14 PM
...situation being included in Rambo, they way HOD explained things in that last post is exactly what I was getting at when I wrote "some of us really wanted/needed that". Well said, HOD.
The Spirit and Hellboy II were the worst films of 2008!! by effector12	Dec 31st, 2008 01:51:31 PM
....that and Doomsday.
Ohh good, T2 time again, Danny and Laser Pants by skimn	Dec 31st, 2008 01:56:26 PM
I must ask, are you referring to the directors cut or the theatrical version? I had the DVD with solely the directors cut, which expanded the father figure angle to the stretching past bursting point. That version I can't stand. Is that what you are referring to??
And LaserPants by skimn	Dec 31st, 2008 01:59:44 PM
The truck/bike chase in the LA canals shows more knowledge of staging and filming an action chase sequence, then in all of Bay's film resume.
skimn by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 31st, 2008 02:00:47 PM
Hhhhhmmmmm.....no I don't think so, I'm just speaking of the normal version. I believe I have seen that version though. Is that the one with the scene with Linda Hamilton's twin sister as the double in the mirror-- taking bullets out of Arnie? Every version of this movies sucks. Suck suck suck. Part 1 was cool cause it was just a dirty looking killer thriller and I applaud any movie that shows Dick Miller getting smoked. But T2 had no heart and no charm.
I will admit the LA canals scene is fun. by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 31st, 2008 02:01:23 PM

T2 directors cut by skimn	Dec 31st, 2008 02:05:25 PM
Also has the dream sequence of Reese visiting her in the hospital...
Speed Racer by Autodidact	Dec 31st, 2008 02:08:09 PM
I put the Speed Racer blu-ray on to demo my humble home theatre to a friend. When I went to turn it off and go to the next movie he said "no, let's watch this." Then he had to go before it was over. The next time he popped by he asked if we could finish watching Speed Racer. It's a great movie!
I give him props for going with Burma by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Dec 31st, 2008 02:10:36 PM
Because it's near and dear to him. And he's given a lot of his time and money to them. Put it this way, I want to save the innocent victims of the world more than anyone, but Stallone is doing it more than just on film. But if it'll help you get more out of the movie, I'll send you a copy where I dub in "Schmerma" every time they say Burma. Then you can stand and cheer, "Take that you filthy Schmermese!"
OKay SR guys, I watched it on standard DVD by skimn	Dec 31st, 2008 02:19:44 PM
when released. I now have BluRay. Will the extra candy colored goodness win me over?
"Now I know why you cry..." thumb by Larry Sellers	Dec 31st, 2008 02:22:43 PM
T2 is awful? The dadbot thing has never bothered me. Always seemed more like John was the father figure anyway. Actually, it is kinda perverse...but it has wayyy too much going for it than against it. I'm just going to assume that all the sudden hate for one of the best loved films for all geeks is nothing but hip, snide irony. Speed Racer was not even close to awful. "Tron of this generation." Spot on. I went in thinking I would hate the shit out of it but I was more than surprised at how enjoyable it was.
Danny I get what you're saying about T1 by skimn	Dec 31st, 2008 02:28:04 PM
Cameron had to shoot down and dirty, using everything but the kitchen sink to achieve his goal. It gave it a grit and realism that T2 ("we can fix that in post with more money") didn't have. And the cops played by Henricksen and Winfield are priceless. But I definately would never, ever call it garbage or useless.
skimn, I agree by Jaka	Dec 31st, 2008 02:31:18 PM
I just don't think it holds a candle to T1. And for me it's mostly Edward Furlong that caused that problem. Also, in retrospect, while the T1000 was a cool affect, it is kind of weird that Arnie is all of a sudden the good guy, once again facing the unstoppable foe. I would have rather seen somebody else, or something else, sent back from the future to protect JC and still have Arnie be the threat. That's one of the many things that's so frickin' cool about the first one; he's the bad guy!
I Messed With The Zohan by Autodidact	Dec 31st, 2008 02:42:59 PM
I messed with the Zohan when it came out and that movie was fucking funny. The funniest shit to me was the electronics store stuff... "Is Sony guts! Just as good, you buy!"
Character Development in Rambo by Autodidact	Dec 31st, 2008 02:48:59 PM
Decrying the lack of character development in Rambo is like criticizing The Age of Innocence for not having Anthony Hopkins mount a 50cal and pulp a few dozen guys. It's a bit of a strawman argument.
Everything is blue? by I Dunno	Dec 31st, 2008 02:55:49 PM
In what Cameron film isn't everything bathed in blue light? T2, Titanic, True Lies, The Abyss...every movie he's made after Aliens was filmed with a blue gel over the lens.
Naw, I ALWAYS Hated T2 by LaserPants	Dec 31st, 2008 02:56:13 PM
I hated it when it came out. I thought betrayed everything awesome about The Terminator (which I LOVED and saw in the theatre several times the summer it came out). The only thing T2 had going for it were the effects, which, for the time, were groundbreaking. Everything else? Medicore to awful at best. I still remember my ex-girlfriend and I seeing it that summer and just tearing it apart laughing our asses off at how bad it was. Its just a bad movie, and I think most of you that cling to it, you probably saw that before you saw the first one, you were probably very young, and it left an indelible impression on you. Understandable. But watch it again, and tell me what you think. Its not a good movie. They're might be some fun set-pieces? But those set-pieces are indistinguishable from any Michael Bay movie. Thats right, T2 committed the original sin: T2 is the template of the Michael Bay aesthetic. Search your sudden shock of revulsion, you know it to be true.
LaserPants by skimn	Dec 31st, 2008 03:01:56 PM
I'll accept what you say (as your opinion) EXCEPT the Bay comparison. Read my earlier post about the chase scene.
I Dunno by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 31st, 2008 03:02:03 PM
Yeah I know. And it looks like shit.
Jaka... by DeeJay	Dec 31st, 2008 03:09:53 PM
... I can see what you're saying, but know-it-all kids that have street smarts were in style, at the time. Now, I know that today's snarky kids surpass Furlong's Connor, and his arcade-game-playing crew seems less than street savvy compared to today's kids. In an early 90's movie, though, you could buy it... even though it doesn't wash in '08.
Crazy to Think T2 is Not a Classic by Autodidact	Dec 31st, 2008 03:11:19 PM
T2 is so much more than just a bunch of great set pieces. The movie has great pace and flow. The art direction, particularly the robot and cyberdyne stuff, is some of the best ever, in my opinion. The sound design is awesome. "Daddy terminator" extends the idea that John Connor's life is inexorably tied to the future war with the machines. Finally there are a bunch of quiet moments the likes of which you don't get from Cameron wannabes like Michael Bay (who gets too much shit but I am not a Bay defender).
Don't talk down to people wo like T2, you by I Dunno	Dec 31st, 2008 03:13:02 PM
condescending pricks. Cameron took the series in a less nihilistic direction and...we'll just agree to disagree. But T2 is nothing like any Michael Bay film, just because it has a few explosions.
Don't talk down to people who like T2, you by I Dunno	Dec 31st, 2008 03:13:06 PM
condescending pricks. Cameron took the series in a less nihilistic direction and...we'll just agree to disagree. But T2 is nothing like any Michael Bay film, just because it has a few explosions.
Yeah SPEED RACER Fucking ROCKED by theycallmemrglass	Dec 31st, 2008 03:17:11 PM
There some films where you either love it or hate with passion. This film definitely sits in that exclusive niche. I loved it and is one of my favourite films of the year. I watched it about 4 times. Kung Fu Panda is my most watched movie so I guess that's my number 1. Dark Knight is in my top 5 along with Cloverfield. And thank god I never had high hopes for Indy 4, unlike most of the rest of the fucking world because I ended up really fucking enjoying it. It was fun. What the fuck was everyone expecting? A radically serious kickass pioneer like Raiders? Get fucking real. This was an Indy film much like the third one and is in my top 10 fun night out at the cinema. Worst fucking movie were The Happening and Day the Earth Stood Still. Actually they are not the worst but given the talent involved they were fucking shameful. And Happy New Year to all my foul mouthed lawless AICN TB friends here. Only here on AICN TB can we be free to vent our thoughts in full colourful language, very fucking liberating so HARRY, CAPONE, QUINT, MASSAWUERE (fuck the spelling) and Co, have a Happy Fucking New Year.
I Dunno by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 31st, 2008 03:19:33 PM
Who was talking down to people? We are actually have a nice back and forth here. Fuck off.
SPEED RACER worst of the year? by Harry Weinstein	Dec 31st, 2008 03:26:21 PM
You should be embarassed to have even had that thought cross your mind, particularly in a year that gave us both DISASTER MOVIE and MEET THE SPARTANS.
Speaking of Cameron by skimn	Dec 31st, 2008 03:33:20 PM
When will The Abyss and True Lies come out on anamorphic widescreen? The scene with Arnie and Jamie Lee embracing as an atomic blast goes off in the distance is a perfect image for that flick.
SPEED RACER RULED by Animation	Dec 31st, 2008 03:35:14 PM
Speed Racer was your worst movie this year? Really? REALLY?! Well, you have the same taste in film as Ben Lyons, so there ya go.
RAMBO RAMBO RAMBO RAMBO RAMBO by Its a LION	Dec 31st, 2008 03:36:06 PM
Capone lists 30 (30!) movies and RAMBO isn't anywhere on the list.
Everyone in the theater was cheering when Rambo killin' by Its a LION	Dec 31st, 2008 03:41:47 PM
When is the last time that ever happened? 1988. (Rambo 3)
*Rambo STARTED killin' by Its a LION	Dec 31st, 2008 03:42:23 PM
ahem
HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL YOU MOFOS by skimn	Dec 31st, 2008 03:47:47 PM
Party well, party hard. Designate if you must. Can't wait to continue the madness next year...
ROGERT EBERT LAYS THE SMACK DOWN ON BEN LYONS by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 31st, 2008 03:55:18 PM
"We can't be too careful. Employers are eager to replace us with Celeb Info-Nuggets who will pimp to mouth-breathers who underline the words with their index fingers whilst they watch television. As the senior newspaper guy still hanging onto a job, I think the task of this ethical overview falls upon me. "
holy shit...check out Ben Lyons wikipedia page. by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 31st, 2008 04:10:22 PM
Look at the PERSONAL LIFE section.
Speed Racer: guilty pleasure by cantankerous	Dec 31st, 2008 04:19:33 PM
I wanted to hate Speed Racer, I really did. But for some reason, I couldn't. Somehow it managed to be bad yet quite entertaining. .......... Tropic Thunder, on the other hand, was total crappola. I believe I registered 1.8 laughs while watching it. If I had to choose between root canal and watching Tropic Thunder again ... I'd have to think about it.
YES!! The T2 hatred continues!! by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 31st, 2008 04:30:04 PM
Since AICN readers are going to be the only people in the country going to see Avatar-- if we continue the Cameron bashing long and hard, we can start to cut into Avatar revenue by at least 30% by the time its released.
Wait a minute ... T2 = BAD, Rambo = GOOD? by cantankerous	Dec 31st, 2008 04:50:01 PM
... What planet am I on?
Capone your a good guy... but fuck you by TheDark0Knight	Dec 31st, 2008 05:00:14 PM
for calling Speed Racer the worst film of the year.
WTF!!!?? by Varakor	Dec 31st, 2008 05:01:14 PM
How did Rambo/T2 hate get rolled up in all this? What the hell universe am I in where Cloverfield is left unscathed yet SR, T2, and even the blessed Rambo gets bashed?? God damn it, today was the worse day for me to stop sniffin glue... it really really is lol
Speed Racer must be awesome by Dapper Swindler	Dec 31st, 2008 05:42:40 PM
I haven't seen it, but any film that can end up on both "best of" and "worst of" lists must take some bold chances. It should get props just for that.
Mr. Nice Gaius by LT	Dec 31st, 2008 05:44:52 PM
Yes, I saw a well acted, tightly scripted, atmospheric film. Perhaps you wanted to see a moooovie - aliens, explosions, elaborate chase and special effects. I'm afraid you will have your wish granted with the third X-Files movie. Morons at Fox will surely want to exploit the 2012 market for geeky stuff, at the cost of characters. Just like with that insignificant 1998 X-Files movie. Oh, wait, you liked that one. ;)
Damn You Michael Bay by MCMLXXVI	Dec 31st, 2008 05:49:31 PM
Damn You Michael Bay
From Madinhead: by the_scream	Dec 31st, 2008 06:45:13 PM
Name that film: A white man is born fatherless in the south with birth defects that lead many to think he may never walk nor live a normal life. His saintly mother believes in his potential anyway. At a young age, the man learns to walk and sheds his exoskeleton of locomotive aids. Around this time, he also meets the love of his life, a vivacious girl who grows into a bold woman who parts ways with the man to have her own wild adventures. Meanwhile, the man reaches adulthood, and puts in a wartime stint in the U.S. military. During this stint, the man proves at first an indifferent asset, but during his one firefight, he turns out to be very valuable, saving the day singlehandedly, while also witnessing the death of one of his best friends. The man also spends much time on a small ocean vessel, serving alongside a rowdy, grizzled, hard-drinking man of the sea. This salty sailor serves as one of our man’s two best male friends; the other is a black man who first teaches our man the lessons of friendship before departing forever.
... by the_scream	Dec 31st, 2008 06:45:38 PM
Our man wanders all around the world, his life brushing up against key historical moments of the 20th century. At some point he returns to his childhood home, and his mother dies. The man comes into considerable wealth through blind luck. Around this time, his lifelong love returns from her adventures, ready to commit to him. During their brief time together, they conceive a child. The couple part ways, due to the woman’s perceived inability to take care of the man. He does not raise the child through its early years but later makes an appearance in its life. The woman eventually dies in bed from illness. The man’s later years are hardly touched on, even though the movie has lavished much attention on his early and middle years.
... by the_scream	Dec 31st, 2008 06:45:55 PM
The entire story dwells repeatedly on the theme of life’s uncertainty and, in contrast, on the notion of fate or coincidence. The film’s symbol for these themes is a small object seen hovering improbably in the air. A narrative frame scene punctuates the story, as does the main character’s drawling voice-over. Acceptable Answers: Forrest Gump; The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.* * Both movies were written by Eric Roth, a man who now owes me seventeen dollars.
A mn brings a gun into a theater by Manos	Dec 31st, 2008 06:48:41 PM
And shoots someone FOR TALKING. No matter what the provacation, no matter the cause, SOMEONE COULD HAVE DIED...and bozos like you, Capone and others on this talkback are turning him into a folk hero. You sir, are beneath contempt. Go ahead and flame me. You are a symtom of what is truly wrong with the human race.
Hate T2, but love that people will think twice when by jah_kingdom	Dec 31st, 2008 07:54:37 PM
talking during a movie. Let the war begin!
Speed racing Rex's ghost... by Billyeveryteen	Dec 31st, 2008 10:28:36 PM
Brought a tear to my eye. Yep, I IMAX'd it, and loved every overlong minute of it. Capone is just an attention grabbing douche.
SPEED RACER IS #1 FUCKOS by reflecto	Dec 31st, 2008 10:57:42 PM
1. SPEED RACER 2. WENDY & LUCY 3. SYNECDOCHE NY 4. MILK 5. WALL-E 6. THE FALL 7. IRON MAN 8. THE DARK KNIGHT still pending to see: A CHRISTMAS TALE GOMORRA SNOW ANGELS BENJAMIN BUTTON THE SECRET OF THE GRAIN SILENT LIGHT good but no cigar: THE WRESTLER SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE etc etc Y'ALL MOTHERFUCKERS ARE FILM ILLITERATE, EEEE-LIT-ARITTT.
Speed Racer Was The Worst Film Of Every Year!!! by Media Messiah	Dec 31st, 2008 11:09:22 PM
Worst Film Of 2008: 1)Speed Racer(Also The Worst Film Of All Time) 2)Tropic Thunder 3)Indy 4 4) Eagle Eye 5) Dark Knight The Best Films Of 2008 1) The Curious Case Of Benjamin Buttons 2)Cadillac Records
I Have An Idea For A Movie--Starring...Michael Bay!!! by Media Messiah	Dec 31st, 2008 11:21:21 PM
"Michael Bay II: The Payback" (AKA: "Michael Bay Blows Up The World") Story--When the whole of the United States is taken hostage, the NSA recruits the only man who can save us...that would be, Michael Bay. Using his skills to blow shit up onscreen, Michael Bay takes down the hostage takers and blows shit up for real!!! And in the end, he even manages to kill all the hostages and blow up the entire world. Now that movie, is guaranteed to kick ass..also in IMAX and 3D!!!
i still cant get over the opening sentence to this article by slappy jones	Dec 31st, 2008 11:26:45 PM
a fuckwit brings a loaded gun to a cinema and shoots a guy for the crime of talking to his fucking son and the dipshit who wrote this wants to invite him to screenings and meet the fucking looney?? I know you are kidding but the sentiment is absolutely ridiculous. talk in a movie and get shot. fucking madness.
oh yeah in twenty years time t2 will be still be watched by peop by slappy jones	Dec 31st, 2008 11:29:57 PM
and speed racer will be loooonnngggg forgotten.
WAS I TALKING ABOUT T2? NO by reflecto	Dec 31st, 2008 11:35:29 PM
I GOT NO BEEF WITH T2 OR JAMES CAMERON, I GOT A BEEF WITH THE AICN PRE-CUM JIZZ PROPHETS TELLING ME TO IGNORE EVERYTHING BUT AVATAR WHICH WILL DO AT BEST SIN CITY BUSINESS. IT MAY BE VERY GOOD BUT IT IS A GEEK MOVIE THRU AND THRU AND YOU CAN'T TELL ME TO IGNORE OTHER FILMS IN LIEU OF IT, NOR CAN "BUKKAKE_HIROSHIMA" TELL ME I CAN'T LIKE SPEED RACER, WHICH ACTUALLY CAME OUT
i do agree that expectations are way to high for avatar by slappy jones	Jan 1st, 2009 12:28:02 AM
more interested in lovely bones myself.
Wow, Media Messiah, by Negator76	Jan 1st, 2009 01:19:39 AM
I thought 'Speed Racer' looked like a hot mess. But now that I've seen that you wrote in TDK as one of the worst films, and listed BENJAMIN-HOW-DERIVATIVE-AND-TR ITE-AND -FUCKING-BORING-BUTTON as #1, I can't help but deem you the Bizarro movie critic of the year. You're so wrong in every way, that I'm forced to reevaluate my instincts and give Speed Racer a chance. It may be bad, but it can't possibly be as dull and intelligence-insulting as 'Button'. And this is coming from someone who usually loves David Fincher movies.
LET THE RIGHT ONE IN is... by MaxTheSilent	Jan 1st, 2009 01:22:08 AM
...not only the best film of this year, but the greatest vampire movie of all time. Lina Leandersson deserves an Oscar-nomination for her devastating performance in this wonderful movie.
AICN has lost me... by Negator76	Jan 1st, 2009 01:29:01 AM
..In their unwavering praise of 'Benjamin Button'. It would be one thing if the movie was just a rehash of 'Gump'. But it's much, much worse. 'Button' has all the trite sentiment and contrived characters of 'Gump', but without the entertainment value or the exciting set-pieces. It's got all of the lame hollywood cliches minus any of the crowd-pleasing action and romance. It. Fucking. Sucks. AICN, you are now dead to me. Plus, you all jizzed over 'Tropic Thunder'. I just caught it on DVD, and it doesn't live up to the hype. All the actors deliver, but it's pretty clear that Ben Stiller can't direct his way out of a wet paper bag. It wasn't bad, but any movie that includes Nick Nolte, Steve Coogan, Tom Cruise in a fat suit, and Robert Downey Jr. playing an Australian playing a black dude should be so much more than 'okay'. With that cast and that setup, only a jackass could fail to make it a classic. And yet, it was mostly 'meh'.
Best Film: Slumdog Millionnaire by the_scream	Jan 1st, 2009 03:46:13 AM
If this film is beaten by the awful, contrived, bland Benjamin Button, I will scream. Slumdog Millionnaire was 100 times the films BB was. Walking out of a film that good is like a euphoric high. Walking out of BB is like being told you have two weeks to live. Emotional. Yes. But fucking awful. TDK, at this stage, is my second favourite. You don't have to love it, or even like it. But to put it down as one of the worst films this year is just trying to get attention and make a point. It's childish and pretty fucking clueless.
Slumdog is fun, but still pablum IMO by reflecto	Jan 1st, 2009 04:04:34 AM
I don't know how but I honestly felt that motherfucker dragged. Maybe it was me. Dev Patel was cute as shit and all, and there was wonderful music, and I love Danny Boyle but I think it is the least of his films that I've seen (I've yet to see MILLIONS or THE BEACH). It's easily his most accessible though, which is probably why it's become so huge. My mother who couldn't possibly stomach any of his other films raced across the street afterwards to buy the SLUMDOG OST. My mother, buying M.I.A.!
I'll understand the over the top love for WALL-E by Orionsangels	Jan 1st, 2009 04:32:56 AM
It's a nice film, but nothing special. There I said it.
I'll NEVER understand the over the top love for WALL-E by Orionsangels	Jan 1st, 2009 04:33:39 AM

Dark Knight was the best movie of 2008 because... by Orionsangels	Jan 1st, 2009 04:34:37 AM
They blew up a real building! That's special these days.
Dark Knight was the best movie of 2008 because... by j2talk	Jan 1st, 2009 08:39:43 AM
because Heath died and he acted REAL good !!! yeah thats it.....come on people pull your head out, the movie was surely one of,if not THE best comic film adaptions ever, but to say it was the best picture? please.....
I woke up with morning wood. by mrfan	Jan 1st, 2009 09:02:19 AM
My first of many of the year. HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!
Speed Racer getting more props than possibly V for Vendetta?!? by Stalkeye	Jan 1st, 2009 10:07:17 AM
I guess it's mostly a hit or miss with the Wachowskis.
Hold on. Someone really got shot for talking? by theycallmemrglass	Jan 1st, 2009 11:01:35 AM
What the fucking fuck? I thought Capone was using the word metaphorically. I didnt know this person actually fucking shot someone. Capone, that was way over the fucking line even for this fucking vagabond site. There is no way, someone like that should even get an ounce of merit. Even if you didnt mean it that way (but something about the way you put it makes me think you actually fucking meant it) but even as a joke is fucking senseless and insensitive, and makes you a fucking demented idiot. I expect that kind of comment in a TB but not from one of the host. Remove that fucking statement, man. I am feeling embarrassed to be ever attached to this morally incompetent site. I used to think this really was a cool site. I told my friends about it over a decade ago now, and for a while, they used to all read it, then one by one they ceased reading it, telling me its too nasty, sadistic. I tell them its all part of the fun and its only in the TB, it gets nasty but they tell it aint the TB its fucking Harry & co but I didnt think so though I knew where they were coming from. I am the only one still reading this site amongst my UK movie loving friends and deep down I now think they are right. Somehow, I dont actually enjoy visiting here as much as before yet I still do as some kind of ritual. I like Quints AMAD, and the sometimes cool news but think I may have made my last post now. There are cooler more better controlled sites than this, only I have to watch my fucking language, that all. I just feel dirty and embarrassed to be associated with statements such as Capone's.
SPEED RACER = GREAT FILM by JackIsLost	Jan 1st, 2009 12:08:47 PM
Better than V FOR VENDETTA. Better than WALL-E (the other big kid movie this year). Better than just about every Oscar that's been released in December. Not better than DARK KNIGHT and not the top film of the year, but still a wonderful piece of pop-art.
The kind of guy who shoots someone for talking in a movie by Big Jim	Jan 1st, 2009 01:49:04 PM
is the same kind of person who shoots someone that told them to stop talking in a movie. This guy is not some righteous vigilante, looking out for the little guy, no Robin Hood/Dirty Harry hybrid. This is some nut with a gun who, mildly frustrated with someone, shot him. Hell, if it weren't the guy talking in the movie, it would have been the guy who accidently bumped into him at the mall, or the lady who didn't get out of his way fast enough getting off an elevator, or the crying kid sitting across from him on the bus. Capone, have him at all your screenings and enjoy being the only two in the theatre. You just better hope the movie starts at the exact moment he is ready (no sooner or later), or that his popcorn is fresh enough and his drink isn't warm, or too cold, and you'd better watch your back if you happen to sneeze or breath too loud or don't laugh at the right moment (or worse, you laugh at the wrong moment). Have fun.
Speed Racer is so much better than Benjamin Button by SmokeFilledTavern	Jan 1st, 2009 02:06:28 PM
And I'm a diehard Fincher fan. In ten years, nobody will give a rat's fuck about Brad Pitt's makeup oscar. They will wondering what the fuck happened in 2008 when one of the most astonishling imaginative films was bypassed by moviegoers. SPEED RACER.
well put big jim by slappy jones	Jan 1st, 2009 04:32:18 PM
this guy was just a time bomb waiting to go off.but all over the internet I am reading sites praising this guy. its fucking mental. and as for smoke filled tavern in ten years time no one besides the ten to fifteen crackpots on this thread that love it will give a flying fuck about speed racer.
After watching the depressing Benjamin Button.. by Stalkeye	Jan 1st, 2009 05:29:23 PM
..maybe I should try to wtch the rest of Speed Racer and maybe...just maybe change my mind and form a second opinion or is it drinking the Kool-Aid. shudders
No love for Synechdoce, New York by Turingtestee	Jan 1st, 2009 05:32:17 PM
Bummer.
Rudest, noisiest movie audience I was ever in ... by VoldemortWearsPrada	Jan 1st, 2009 05:44:32 PM
... was at the MoMA in New York, while watching the 1923 version of `Peter Pan'. Yes folks, a SILENT film.
Benjamin Button IS SO FUCKING BORING!!! by BigTuna	Jan 1st, 2009 06:11:15 PM
The character of BB is so uninteresting and void of life. I couldn't care less what happened to him. Once he leaves his home at 17 after an interesting first hour or so the film drags. Not even close to the best of the year.
If SR was a hit, would all you geeks love it so much? by BigTuna	Jan 1st, 2009 06:18:12 PM
It had great visuals and that's it. It's an unwatchable mess. Why the hell is it 2 Hrs. 20 minutes. Can anyone tell me?
SPEED RACER = DAMN FUN FILM! by Earthquake WestCoast	Jan 1st, 2009 06:28:54 PM

Just saw Benjamin Button today... by JackIsLost	Jan 1st, 2009 06:55:32 PM
I wouldn't put it on my WORST OF list but it was pretty disappointing. Eric Roth didn't "crack" the script...he just stole from his own work on FORREST GUMP. Every time they cut back to the hospital room and Cate Blanchett started talking in her "old lady voice", I giggled uncontrollably. She modulates her voice in an attempt to sound older but it is just ridiculous. And Julia Ormond--film obscurity is calling and wants to know when you'll be back. (Hopefully soon.)
LT by Mr. Nice Gaius	Jan 1st, 2009 07:15:45 PM
I appreciate your attempt to flame me but you couldn't be more wrong. I wanted an X-FILES movie that didn't tread the same water we've already seen a dozen times. I would have liked the choices Mulder and Scully made at the end of the series and FTF to have held true so that their characters could move forward in the supposed story to come. I would have preferred a movie that didn't involve a side-plot that did absolutely nothing for the film. I would have preferred to have seen a movie that didn't have a main plot handled so poorly that it made some of the later series' episodes look brilliant. But most importantly, I would have liked to have seen a film that didn't suck. A film that didn't have its main character looking like he was asleep the entire time or the other one looking like she thought she as acting in something else. If you can point out a genuine moment of tension or drama in that movie, I'll eat my hat. But the fact is, I know you can't. The film doesn't hold a candle to FTF (or any numerous episodes for that matter) and it has nothing to do with FOX or 'splosions. And I sure would like to know how/why you think FTF is an "insignificant" movie. Especially in the context of the overall franchise (i.e. the alien conspiracy - the backbone of the series). Sheer lunacy.
Mr. Nice Gaius by LT	Jan 1st, 2009 08:15:57 PM
You felt flamed?! I "flamed" your taste and bland arguments, not you. Now, on to your points. I think I know why the sequel got criticized so much. TIMEWARP might be the answer. Geeks wanted M & S to be back in the FBI, fighting the aliens, being, you know, the heroes. Doesn't seem like a plausible scenario, because of what happened to the characters and the somewhat limited possibilities of action. The second film takes that into account. The characters are given a chance to mull things over, to grapple with their doubts, and to make a conscious choice at the end. It's called character progression, especially in the case of Scully. The regenerated M & S will be able to handle the colonization in the third film, if it happens. The "side" plot is very important. The film is about believing and about the motivations for the choices we think are right. Just like other characters in the story, Scully wants to do the right thing, but at what cost? Acting? You expected Duchovny to be fully energized? ;) Whatever. I'm not his fan, but I have to say he was quite affecting. Anderson wasn't acting in "something else": she played a character who in the course of 6 years progressed quite a bit, but remained the same Scully we've always known - a sceptic with a big heart. Notice that when Scully wants out, it's not because she's a coward, but because she sees a chance of saving the boy from terminal illness, and Mulder from the darker consequences of his obsession. That's the Scully I remember and respect. Tension? Plenty of it, between S & M, and the priest. Not the explosive tension you seem to enjoy in the Hollywood-friendly FTF (yeah, insignificant, full of plotholes, and when you think about the first episode of the 6th series, FTF practically didn't happen ;) - sheer lunacy on the part of CC and co, wouldn't you say?). It was the real tension, stemming from the history those characters shared, and the circumstances which made their choices so difficult. Bon appetit with that hat of yours. ;P
Donald Westlake dead at 75! by Cruel_Kingdom	Jan 1st, 2009 09:30:16 PM
Any chance we can get an obituary and talkback?
Re: Big Tuna by Cruel_Kingdom	Jan 1st, 2009 09:31:29 PM
I think you hit the nail right on the head. The problem with Benjamin Button was that the lead character was so devoid of any personality that I couldn't make myself care what happened to him.
SPEED RACER = DOGSHIT by Cruel_Kingdom	Jan 1st, 2009 09:32:21 PM
That is all.
Reason for SPEED RACER by Chishu_Ryu	Jan 1st, 2009 10:26:11 PM

Reason for SPEED RACER's length by Chishu_Ryu	Jan 1st, 2009 10:32:32 PM
The Wachowskis like doing things in episodes. The Speed Racer film was basically structured around several "episodes", just like the animated series, where a storyline centered on a particular race, like the Casa Christo, would take two episodes to unfold. While there was still a basic throughline for the film's storyline, the film broke away from the basic three act structure, and told the story in episodes. These episodes were all divided by a particular race or parts of a race. So, if you look at the film, not as a typical movie that gets over and one with in hour and half, but is an adventure told over several episodes, just like the Speed racer animated series was, then the the two hours and half length makes sense. Plus, there's just more to love...
I still think SR too long... by JackIsLost	Jan 1st, 2009 10:45:11 PM
but I love it anyway. Anyone who hates it blindly can eat a dick.
Uh, LT... by Mr. Nice Gaius	Jan 2nd, 2009 12:06:30 AM
...I'm still waiting to eat my hat. :^) Love this one though: "Tension? Plenty of it, between S & M, and the priest." Really? You mean the same tension between Mulder and Scully that's been there since the beginning? The tension that's been resolved only to be dug up again for the convenience of a new film like IWTB? How is that tension when we already know what they're going to do and say? We've seen it before and it played like old hat (pun intended!). As for the pedo-priest, he was an interesting character that went nowhere. His story and abilities were wasted on another plot that was a complete bust in the creep-factor department. And I guess we were just supposed to accept a random and "creepy" plot detail like blood oozing from his eyes, right? Quote: "Not the explosive tension you seem to enjoy in the Hollywood-friendly FTF" You need to do a better job of explaining what it is that you seen to think I'm getting out of FTF here. You're painting with a rather broad brush assuming that what I found entertaining has everything to do with 'splosions and/or special effects. And simply calling FTF "insignificant" doesn't make it so. How you can form that opinion, cite the S6 ep, and yet forget the series' conclusion is rather strange. But it's like I said before, the movie's events center around the story that has been the franchise backbone since its premier. It moved the characters (main and supporting) forward, the alien conspiracy forward, and the relationship of Mulder and Scully forward. And quite frankly, it's a better crafted film - both in story and in directorial execution. After such a long franchise hiatus, Carter should have known his own creation a little better and trusted his audience a little more. If he was going to make a stand-alone film, he needed to give them something to genuinely care about. In my opinion, there is very little of that in IWTB.
Did anyone mention The Punisher as the worst? by Texbear2000	Jan 2nd, 2009 01:00:53 AM
THE worst movie of the year had to be the Punisher. I think the guy with the gun must have saw this movie and just wanted to shoot someone,,,PS cut Speed some slack..much better than the over hyped Cloverfield..shit!!
good point big tuna..if speed racer was a smash hit by slappy jones	Jan 2nd, 2009 01:12:07 AM
with 700 mill in the bank and critics drooling these pricks would be the first ones telling us now how over rated it is. the film is unwatchable garbage and for once cinematic justice was sevEred with the film TANKING. nearly taking the wachowskis careers with it. they will not be given that kind of money or control again for a looonnnggg looonnnggg time.
Fuck you Capone, Speed Racer was AMAZING by polyh3dron	Jan 2nd, 2009 03:33:57 AM
In The Name Of The King, The Spirit, Punisher: War Zone, The Happening and a whole shitload of other movies were undisputably worse than it.
Speed Racer Has No Nuts, Not The Movie...The Show Was Brilliant! by Media Messiah	Jan 2nd, 2009 03:46:29 AM
You Speed Racer: The Movie fans are also The Dark Knight fans. You are lke school during the holidays, you have no class!!! Speed Racer is the worst film of all time and has destroyed careers!!!
Negator76--Years From Now You Will Call TDK Garbage!!! by Media Messiah	Jan 2nd, 2009 04:03:17 AM
I can recall when Brandon Lee died (and I love the guy so no disrespect), everyone claimed that The Crow was a great film...and I was the lone bad guy who said, the film is trash. Now, nearly everyone says the Crows is horrible. And history is repeating itself with Heath Ledger and The Dark Knight (I love the guy, no disrespect meant). The Dark Knight is a boring film with an ugly, meanspirted, and soul-less vibe. It is a movie with no substance. Speed Racer however, is also ugly...but in a different way. Where as The Dark Knight is an expensive looking ugly film, Speed Racer is cheap looking ugly Skittles commercial of a movie, that is an embarrassment of the highest order. But I will tell you though, many years from now, while you are trashing The Dark Knight and Speed Racer for destroying your childhood, and you will--and you'll also be telling your friends how much you always loved Benjamin Buttons; convenient history revision, always being en vogue, and the new black.
Amened: Negator76--Years From Now You Will Call TDK Garbage!!! by Media Messiah	Jan 2nd, 2009 04:08:53 AM
I can recall when Brandon Lee died (and I love the guy, so no disrespect), everyone claimed that The Crow was a great film...and I was the lone bad guy who said, the film is trash. Now, nearly everyone says The Crow is horrible. And history is repeating itself with Heath Ledger and The Dark Knight (I love the guy, no disrespect meant). The Dark Knight is a boring film with an ugly, meanspirted, and soul-less vibe. It is a movie with no substance. Speed Racer however, is also ugly...but in a different way. Where as The Dark Knight is an expensive looking ugly film, Speed Racer is a cheap looking ugly Skittles commercial of a movie, that is an embarrassment of the highest order. But I will tell you though, many years from now, while you are trashing The Dark Knight and Speed Racer for destroying your childhood, and you will--you'll also be telling your friends how much you always loved Benjamin Buttons; convenient history revision, always being en vogue, and the new black.
But then Media Messiah by the_scream	Jan 2nd, 2009 06:46:07 AM
Since when have people been saying the Crow is horrible? Secondly, you love that crapfest The Notebook. So that pretty much makes your opinion worthless. I guess you need the emotion in your films spoonfed to you like The Notebook because TDK has plenty of soul not to mention being uplifting.
this is how i feel about this list: by noiretblanc	Jan 2nd, 2009 07:24:18 AM
it physically hurts me to watch capone try so hard to make a best-of list and come up with something so astonishingly mediocre. :P
polyh3don by Cruel_Kingdom	Jan 2nd, 2009 07:29:03 AM
Be careful with the fuck you's. I once said "Fuck you" to one of the writers here (he shall remain anonymous--all I will say is that he may or may not have written a couple of episodes of Masters of Horror, lol) in a header just like you did and my account got shut down. Also, Speed Racer sucked balls. That is all.
speed racer was great by stvnhthr	Jan 2nd, 2009 09:08:18 AM
I think the movies we like say as much about us as they do about the films. Movies are a subjective experience so when you critic the film you are revealing a lot about your own worldviews. I like the type people who really enjoyed Speed Racer. I enjoyed the Dark Knight moderately, but I really don't understand what the fuss is all about; the comics had touched on many of the same themes decades ago. Now, the Fall, that was a great film that I haven't heard enough good about. It mesmerizes the viewer from start to finish. Thanks for the list Capone, nice work.
When is Lovely Bones arriving? 2019? by Knobules	Jan 2nd, 2009 09:45:35 AM
Is that thing ever going to be done?
Media Messiah by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Jan 2nd, 2009 09:50:19 AM
Anyone claiming The Crow is a bad film is a stupid fuck. The Crow is a great film that is just as good as it was with its initial release.
Orionsangels, maybe you should look deeper into Wall-E by D.Vader	Jan 2nd, 2009 10:11:19 AM
See it not as a cute movie about saving the enviornment, but a scifi film about a dystopian future. One in which humans have become little more than automatons doing what they're told, one where creative free-thinkers are imprisoned and locked up away from society so that they can't disrupt the status quo. One that requires a robot who has broken free of his programming and evolved beyond what was expected of him to teach humanity how to live, how to break free of the opression that has kept them slaves for long. The movie is about revolution, man.
Button's "flawless" special effects by half vader	Jan 2nd, 2009 11:28:13 AM
Hey -I liked it too but... you don't watch many movies, do you Capone? Show me one scene when the cg eyes looked absolutely real. They weren't as zombie-like as Fincher's tests with Orville Redenbacher by any means, but... And Katrina made the movie for you? I wouldn't have pegged you as a jingoistic American who's clueless as to the other disasters happening outside your own country at the same time - where the deaths from flooding and earthquakes dwarfed Orleans. I'm not pissing on N.O. (rather trying to get you to realise not just American deaths are important) but Jesus Christ man, how did placing so much weight on Katrina in a 'timeless' (yes I'm aware of that irony) fable really serve the story? An unnamed storm would've served the metaphor just as well without being so on-the-nose (which I thought was what you admired about the film). If there'd been an actual storm in New Orleans at the time Button was 'born', then that would've been satisfying & appropriate in it's symmetry. And tied in with the Lightning gag. Never pegged you for a breast-beater.
Having said all that... by half vader	Jan 2nd, 2009 11:34:02 AM
Amen on the guy with the gun (and how is getting the other guy in the arm at point-blank range "attempted murder"?!). Not that I really condone THAT sort of violence but - The other week I had an argument with a moron and his girlfriend in a cinema for phone shenanigans, and yes called them morons to their faces - they really didn't have a clue as to why I'd be annoyed. Then I finally realised how big and musclebound the guy was... lucky he was so stupid and taken aback he forgot to crush me.
Media Messiah... by Negator76	Jan 2nd, 2009 11:34:12 AM
My opinion of 'Button' is unlikely to change. Except that I may grow to appreciate the unintentional comedy of Cate Blanchett's 'old southern lady' voice. God I love her, but Fincher seems to have directed her into her first bad performance. Now, The Dark Knight certainly has its flaws, but its subtext alone makes it far more interesting than 'Button', which is a generic exercise in oscar-baiting. A brutally dull one, at that. And 'Button' doesn't have a single character that's nearly as compelling as Ledger's Joker. His scenes in the interrogation room and the hospital were worth the price of admission. No offense to the memory of Brandon Lee, but he was no Heath Ledger. And I never liked the Crow. it set itself up as an action movie, with an indestructible hero. How suspenseful is that? And yet, I'd still recommend 'The Crow' over 'Benjamin Button'. Anything's more engaging than three hours of Brad Pitt watching paint dry while everyone goes around narrating in folksy voices about people who seem to live 100 years without developing a single interesting personality trait.
And 20 best docos - you didn't see Not Quite Hollywood? by half vader	Jan 2nd, 2009 11:37:56 AM
Your loss. Check it out man!
The Wrestler... by TheWacoKid	Jan 2nd, 2009 11:54:30 AM
wasn't that great. Mickey Rourke was playing Mickey Rourke, that wasn't a stretch. I did find the day to day interesting on how he tried to look the same, and his work at the deli counter. However, that speech at the end seemed forced and how in the world are people in the strip club NOT excited about Marissa Tomei? She is hot! It seemed unbelievable that people weren't going after her. The movie was interesting, but one of the best of the year? I'm not so sure.
I know this has been said already by a lot of people, but... by PDepew2181	Jan 2nd, 2009 12:11:31 PM
...let me just add that you're pretty much an asshole here, Capone. Someone who gets shot, particularly under these circumstances, is not a "victim." They are a victim, no quotations. On the list of offenses to the rest of mankind, talking during a movie is not in the top 50. You know what is though? Shooting someone! I also find it interesting that you've conveniently ducked your head in the sand since and won't respond to anyone else here who has called you out. Personally, I've got a better solution. I'm not reading one of your articles ever again. I don't care what it's about, if I see your name, I'm not reading it. I hope you do invite that guy to one of your screenings and he shoots you in the arm. Asshole.
oh the guy that shot the dude was an Iraq vet.... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Jan 2nd, 2009 12:30:57 PM
....it makes sense now why he was a trigger-happy caveman. It all makes sense.
If I'm sitting by someone who is shot for talking by skimn	Jan 2nd, 2009 12:37:18 PM
during a movie, can I get benefits for PTMWS? Post Traumatic Movie Watching Syndrome...
DETAILS ON THEATER SHOOTING.... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Jan 2nd, 2009 12:43:44 PM
...the fucking scumbag that shot the father of three wasn't even the one that said to shut up. He was just quick to get in there and pop some fucking shots off. What a fucking scumbag. They should cut this fucker's balls off and throw him naked, out of a helicopter over the Iraq desert. Fucking piece of shit. ---------PHILADELPHIA — An Iraq veteran charged in a Christmas night shooting over noisy moviegoers fired in self-defense, his lawyer said. James Joseph Cialella, 29, of Philadelphia, is charged with firing a shot that broke the arm of Woffard Lomax Jr. inside a movie theater during a screening of the film "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button." A judge on Wednesday ordered Cialella held for trial on aggravated assault, reckless endangerment and related charges. The judge tossed out an attempted murder charge over a prosecutor's objections. Lomax, 31, told the judge he was at the movie with his girlfriend and her three teenagers, enjoying the film and laughing, when a man in front of him _ not Cialella _ told him to quiet down. "We can't laugh?" Lomax recalled asking. A second man threw popcorn at the family, and a brawl ensued. Lomax said he was fighting with the first man when the second man pulled out a gun and fired, striking him in the left arm. A defense lawyer argued that Cialella was being choked and punched as he tried to break up the fight and fired in self-defense. "He's a marksman," lawyer Greg Pagano said. "If he wanted to shoot to kill, he would have." Cialella spent five months in Iraq with the Army before being honorably discharged in September, Pagano said. Municipal Court Judge Craig M. Washington lowered Cialella's bond from $350,000 to $50,000, but ordered him to remain under house arrest if he is released. It was not immediately clear Thursday whether he had posted bail. Lomax did not elaborate on his testimony after the hearing. Police have said Cialella brought a .38-caliber handgun in his waistband to the South Philadelphia megaplex.
And Danny (Happy New Year BTW) by skimn	Jan 2nd, 2009 12:55:54 PM
If Solace is the gold plated cunt of action movies, I'd hate to see what class of vagina you've been hanging around. No aspersions toward the missess mind you. Solace had the main villian die offscreen. Let me repeat that. The main villian, the chief baddie, the guy Bond defeated, DIED OFFSCREEN, and was mentioned as an afterthought... In a Bond flick I thought that was unexcusable.
Laughing like DeNiro at the movie in CAPE FEAR? by uberman	Jan 2nd, 2009 12:56:55 PM
Just curious. Not to defend anyone shooting anyone, but I'm trying to think of a scene in B.BUTTON where the audience is all laughing. Maybeye they were laughing at the fact that Brad Pitts face is superimposed on an old man? Whatever the case, sounds like there were several patrons at that screening that were pretty fed up at whatever this guy and the teens were doing. Right or Wrong, sounds like someone took the law into his own hands. They were probably frustrated that there was NOTHING they could do about the noise. Nada. Zip. Short of walking out, that is, or moving seats if one is available. Though only one man broke the law (unless you count the brawlers), there may have been mitigating circumstances. The Iraq war vet has probably just about had his fill of Bullshit for a lifetime. Long and short of it, if ya dont carry a firearm into the theater, you wont be able to use one when the next inconsiderate bastard pisses you off.
class of vagina? by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Jan 2nd, 2009 01:01:17 PM
Only the best mate. Thanks. Happy New Year.
Sonuva bitch brings a concealed weapon by skimn	Jan 2nd, 2009 01:08:02 PM
to a theater showing Benjamin Button? Paranoid much? ... Asshole.
throw that fucker in Abu-Ghraib.... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Jan 2nd, 2009 01:13:23 PM
....and make him drink Iraqi piss.
Capone by ripper t. jones	Jan 2nd, 2009 02:01:56 PM
I laugh to think about how fast you would whimper, cry and beg like a bitch if someone shoved a piece in your face. I suggest you ponder how big a load you would drop in the seat of your pants before you post something as irresponsible as you did, you pussy lameass motherfucker.
Capone, laughing at Benjamin Button... by Negator76	Jan 2nd, 2009 02:04:21 PM
...Is not a capital offense. In fact, it's the only sane response. How the hell else could you entertain yourself through that movie's interminable running time, if you couldn't chuckle at the goofy CGI hummingbird, the cliched sassy black supporting characters who are completely stranded by the screenplay, and Cate Blanchett's Foghorn Leghorn imitation? Maybe the other audience members were pissed at the laughing because it had interrupted their naps.
iwtb by NinjaRap	Jan 2nd, 2009 02:14:12 PM

what the fuck....a CGI HUMMINGBIRD?!! by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Jan 2nd, 2009 03:05:03 PM
That sounds almost as delightful as the CGI gopher in INDY IV!! Now I HAVE to see this!!
drude!!! (in defense of a spoiler) by kgerm	Jan 2nd, 2009 03:30:57 PM
Spoilers spoil things. You already know how the movie is going to end, even if you don't know. Much like life, we''re missing the point. It's not about that. It's about the moments in between.
I don't understand. by König Lear	Jan 2nd, 2009 03:54:22 PM
Neither Harry nor Capone seem to see anything wrong with bringing a gun to the movies and shooting someone who annoys you. Everyone knows someone incapable of shutting up for a movie, a play, or whatever. For that matter, everyone knows someone who won't shut up everywhere else, too. Generally, instead of getting shot, such people don't get invited places. It seems if your film quota is high enough on a weekly basis, you earn some sort of moral high-ground from which to say stupid things.
TOWELHEAD IS THE BEST MOVIE OF 2008 by jah_kingdom	Jan 2nd, 2009 04:42:11 PM

Konig, by half vader	Jan 2nd, 2009 06:22:08 PM
Uh, this is AICN man. Of course no-one condones taking a bloody lethal weapon to a movie (although that IS super-American). This is the place where people shit-talk and tell others they're going to fuck their eye sockets and worse. I doubt they actually don't "see anything wrong" with it. Having said all that, Danny's posting of that story is awfully fucking different from the one I read... And Danny, no. It's as delightful (yet even more contrived) than the cg leaf/feather that came more directly before it!
DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD by Logan_1973	Jan 2nd, 2009 07:00:58 PM
Kinda tough to train a hummingbird to hover right in focal length, I would think. Certainly not the same as training Lassie to sit.
How about no hummingbird? by the_scream	Jan 2nd, 2009 11:15:02 PM
Before the hummingbird appearance I was pleasantly bored and indifferent with the film. I immediately switched to being annoyed by this film was when this little cgi hummingbird appears only a scene or two after one the characters gives a monologue about its significance. We are dealing with a film that is extremely trite and obvious. I still can't believe this is Fincher's film. The man who gave us Zodiac, Seven, and Fight Club. It's as though he has been taking lessons from a director like Chris Columbus or something.
THE HUMMINGBIRD was FAKE??????? by uberman	Jan 2nd, 2009 11:38:11 PM
I'm not as well-bred and superior as most the Einstiens on this talkback, so, naturally, I found myself really engaged and transported by this movie. In fact, I will say I found it to be the BEST film I have seen in 2008. Imagine my surprise when, in the middle and at the end of the movie, the threw caution to the wind AND SHOWED A CGI HUMMINGBIRD FOR A COUPLE SECONDS! Damn. Now, I figured it must be CGI cause that damn bird was in a hurricane! And Fincher did not have the resources to train a hummingbird to fly in a hurricane? I suppose now you master thespians are gonna tell me that the hurricane was not real, that Brad Pitt DID NOT AGE BACKWARDS as the movie shows, that the whole thing was MAKE BELIEVE! Thanks for telling me the bird was CGI. I suggest you contact the Acadamy to let them know before this 'horrible' movie wins best picture.
Dead right on SPEED RACER by Nathaniel Amroth	Jan 3rd, 2009 12:12:47 AM
Capone, you were able to sum up EXACTLY why SPEED RACER did not work. There was absolutely NO reason for the story of that film to be so overwrought with melodramatic dialogue and obvious dilemmas milked for as long as possible. That movie should have been twenty-two minutes long, like the TV show. Don't know if it's the worst film of the year, but pretty godawful.
Who cares if it's CGI. It's still heavy handed by the_scream	Jan 3rd, 2009 01:13:35 AM
To have the hummingbird at all. The fact it was computer generated is irrelevant.
the_scream... by Negator76	Jan 3rd, 2009 03:37:06 AM
You are precisely right... The only reason I call it the 'CGI hummingbird' is that the bird is as fake and technology-enhanced as the sentiments of the movie. If 'Button' had anything worthwhile to say, it would have done it through the characters, and not that stupid artificial bird. Uberman, if you think that was the best picture of the year, than I feel sorry for you. You obviously haven't seen any decent films in your lifetime. I can't believe I'm hating on a Fincher film-- I haven't seen 'Panic Room', but I've always had respect for the guy's talent, and I thought 'Zodiac' was brilliant, and a savvy corrective to the stupid, exploitative serial-killer films that tried to follow in Se7en's footsteps. But the guy choked big dick on 'Button'. Horrible, derivative, go-nowhere script populated by cardboard characters. A movie that started out mediocre but passably entertaining, and just went downhill from there into cheesy, then excruciatingly dull. I applaud anyone who talked through that piece of shit. Two years from now, no one will remember 'Button'... Except those of use who went in expecting something halfway-watchable and ended up being bored until our eyeballs bled. I'll never anticipate a Fincher movie again. This is the 'Airforce One' of Fincher movies... That is to say-- Harrison Ford still had some respect before he made 'Airforce One'. After that, it all went downhill for him, and now he's a zombie playing second fiddle to Shia LeBeef. Long story short: (dear god, if only the producers of 'Button' had lived by that maxim)-- 'The Curious Case of Benjy Button' SUCKEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
THE BANK JOB by Mr Gorilla	Jan 3rd, 2009 05:03:18 AM
Great heist movie. Really worth checking out. Good on you remembering it - it kinda disappeared.
T2 by darthwaz1	Jan 3rd, 2009 12:35:47 PM
is so overrated, it's decent but tries to hard to change the story into a more serious action drama, while it's villain, the T1000, is about a thousand years more advanced than the arnold version. It's like an F16 compared to a musket. Cameron was only trying to achieve effects with that character but it was too out of place for the story. At least T3 goes back to the B-movie feel of part 1, and the girl robot only has liquid-metal skin, but she's still a robot like arnold underneath. Unfortunately the TV show is following the trend of T2.
Gaius, Gaius by LT	Jan 3rd, 2009 03:33:12 PM
Scriptwise, the ways of creating tension need to take into account the history of the characters, what ticks them, etc. It’s the tension that refers to episodes in the characters’ lives that inform all their choices. “Mulder to the rescue, no matter what” will always be partly conditioned by the loss of his sister. Scully will always be a guilt-ridden skeptic, hence it is so hard for her to acknowledge that the vile priest could be a messenger from God, etc. Unless you mean the sexual tension, but even I wouldn’t be so far-fetched as to assume you could use such a stupid, rehashed argument. ;) The blood oozing from his eyes fits the God and faith department perfectly. Would black oil provide more creep-factor, dahling? And how do you mean the priest’s abilities were wasted, when in reality he helped save two people? Which leads us to the penultimate point. Judging by your and other geeks’ comments here and on other boards, it’s only fair to assume you liked the grander scale, f/x, aliens, M & S as Hollywood heroes + the numerous plotholes and a suitable degree of shallowness. I’m sure FTF delivered in all those aspects. Personally, I found FTF obnoxious. There’s no accounting for tastes. And simply calling FTF “significant” doesn’t make it so. ESPECIALLY in the context of the series. I’m sure Carter trusted his audience. Perhaps he trusted it too much. What he got in return for his quiet, meditative, unblockbusterish piece were all those dumb, AICN-friendly “Russian Frankenstein; seriously?” comments. That's what you get for taking risk these days.
vader by König Lear	Jan 3rd, 2009 03:34:42 PM
I agree that they probably don't think that, which is why I said "it seems" so and then called it a stupid thing to say (instead of dangerous or cold-hearted). I'm sure neither of them would ever bring a gun to the movies and shoot a man accompanying his girlfriend and her three children. But to praise real-life (and not joking) assault with a deadly weapon in a family environment and then mock someone shot for talking during a movie...come on. AICN or not, Talkback or article, that's a stupid thing to do.
I can't believe people who call Forrest Gump Overrated... by BigTuna	Jan 3rd, 2009 10:36:52 PM
Are praising Benjamin Button. It's Forrest Gump lite. ERic Roth copies so much from his FG Screenplay it's embarrassing. BB is a boring film, not close to as solid as Gump was.
YES BIG TUNA-- by Negator76	Jan 3rd, 2009 10:55:33 PM
I kind of think that 'Gump' is pablum, but it's at least solid, entertaining pablum. 'Button' is 'Gump' with all the fun taken out of it... only a moron would think it's any more profound. 'Boring' does not equal 'deep'. If people want to see a really long movie that follows the life of a single person, they should go rent Tarkovsky's 'Andrei Rublev'.
i just got back from an alternate dimension where speed racer wa by slappy jones	Jan 4th, 2009 01:39:00 AM
and you all hated it. weird huh?
meant to say ..."was a hit" by slappy jones	Jan 4th, 2009 01:39:52 AM

No Kung-Fu Panda on anyone's "best" list? by BroVinny	Jan 4th, 2009 09:59:13 AM
Oh, my tenders!
Benjamin Button: Forrest Gump Starring a Male Model by catlettuce4	Jan 4th, 2009 11:12:22 AM
Seriously. It is the same fucking movie.
CGI HUMMINGBIRD = CGI GOPHERS IN INDY IV by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Jan 4th, 2009 11:18:18 AM
Kill yourself Mr. Spielberg.
Hey This Talkback Reminded Me Of One Years Ago by Red Dawn Don	Jan 4th, 2009 07:52:18 PM
Company At Ease. Hey This Talkback Reminded Me Of One From Years Ago. Everyone was telling of the BAD experiences they had at the MOVIES. It was a long TB. Took me days to read. How many of those HOLLYWOOD movies we watch solve problems with GUNS? I own several guns and wish this shooter had gone up against some real gang-bangers rather than a FAMILY man. Company Dismissed.
Oh, A Postscript by Red Dawn Don	Jan 4th, 2009 07:58:50 PM
Seems people are mad at CAPONE for siding with the shooter and even MORE SO for dissing their SPEED RACER. I am just glad the shooter did not shoot the guy at a SPEED RACER viewing. Could you imagine the OUTRAGE on here. Note to Shooter: Please only shoot others packing and smacking.
kung fu panda is on my top ten. great film by slappy jones	Jan 4th, 2009 09:40:43 PM
i still can't get over the opening sentence to this article. I cannot believe capone even in jest would be so so so stupid. A real shame as I like it when he is on filmspotting and enjoy his writing for the most part but that has to be the dumbest fucking thing i have read in fucking years.
What do you do with those guns Red Dawn? by theycallmemrglass	Jan 5th, 2009 06:27:35 AM
Just um...wondering. And I guess I am still coming to this site because I cant fucking help it, I guess like it too much for diabolical statements such as Capone's to put me off. But I am glad to see many people here are slamming him for it.
Yes!!! The Fall!!!!! by Fart_Master_Flex	Jan 5th, 2009 08:21:36 AM
I am glad I am not alone in thinking that the Fall is a heartbreakingly beautiful film.
Hmmm by Halloween68	Jan 5th, 2009 03:52:27 PM
The DARK KNIGHT should be rated higher and THE FALL shouldn't be ranked at all. THE FALL had the potential to be a truly great film, but in the end, it was just stupid. Visually breathtaking, but stupid all the same. The story within the story is what I'm talking about. The story sandwiching the story is another matter. I loved it, even though I had a hard time understanding the lead at times. It's the story within the story that people will want to see this movie for. If folks find this sort of thing passable, I need to dust off my acid trip short stories from the college days. I didn't like THE CELL either, but it was 10 times a better film than this. I think design wise the director is going for some sort of Terry Gilliam vibe. He's no Terry Gilliam. I've never been so bored in watching a film like this. IRON MAN should be rated higher. Also, I thought TROPIC THUNDER was overrated. CABLE GUY in Vietnam is what I like to call it. A Ben Stiller production through and through. If you like MYSTERY MEN you'll like this film. If not, well, you might still like it, but probably not in the best film of the year category as a lot of guys on this site have it. Oh, and THE BANK JOB was highly overrated as well. That said, number 30 on the list, probably isn't a bad place for it. Can't readily off the top of my head think of 30 films better. Oh. And how can you call 21 one of the worst films of the year? The film was not perfect by any stretch, but it was thoroughly entertaining. Better than THE FALL I thought. Spacey was awesome, and you have to love the payoff at the end. Kinda reminded me of 2007's answer to THE BOILER ROOM, another thoroughly entertaining film.
Finally saw Speed Racer by the_scream	Jan 7th, 2009 05:40:10 AM
And it was really fun. I don't get the hate. Most underrated film of 2008!
Speed Racer was awesome by smackfu	Jan 10th, 2009 11:52:29 AM
I mean that sincerely. I have a taste for strange movies, and maaaaan was this a strange movie. This movie was bizarre in every way a film can be bizarre. The visuals, the music, the acting, the dialogue, the pacing, the editing. Every element of this film is jarringly weird, and I firmly believe it was intentional. Because the Wachowskis can obviously direct a movie, more importantly they know how to direct a greenscreen movie and coach the performance they want out of the actors, and they were dealing with a proven cast. Visually, it was the most abstract thing I've seen on screen in a long time. And everyone who has ever dabbled in halucinogens immediately recognizes just how accurately parts of this movie capture the sensation of going off an a halucingenic tangent only to be snapped back to reality reflecting 'wow..what....the fuck...was THAT'. The whole film is like one of those dreams you have where you're reluctant to tell anyone about it because you're afraid they'll think there is something deeply wrong with you for having even thought it up. Most movies are created with the goal of taking you on a narrative journey, providing an experience you can get absorbed in. But some movies are created where the goal is to make you generate the 'experience' by how you react to the film. Todd Solondz films are a great example of this. The entire point of 'Happiness' for example is to make you feel uncomforable and squirm in your seat. And the scenarios it presents are really just there to facilitate that feeling. And when you invite the uninitiated to watch Happiness, you have an evil little grin on the inside because of what you're about to put them through. That's an artistic acheivement, no matter what you personally think of Solondz or his films. I think this film definately falls into this category.

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