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Harry likes VALKYRIE a lot!

Tom Cruise is Creepy by DOGSOUP	Dec 28th, 2008 04:31:23 AM
But I'll give it a go.
I Like Cruise by Crow3711	Dec 28th, 2008 04:31:53 AM
I Don't Care Who Knows It. He maybe be a little bonkers, but his personal life isn't my business. His business is my business, and most of his movies are good enough to earn my 5 bucks. I'm going to see this soon.
The thought the biggest problem with Valkyrie- by sonnyfern	Dec 28th, 2008 04:36:31 AM
-was just the fact that it moved too damn fast. I would've liked for it to slow down a little and just kind of flesh out everything a little, give us more details about stuff. As it is it's a damn fine flick, but I thin if it would've slowed it's butt down just a little, it would've had an even bigger impact.
Anything's better than Superman Returns by kwisatzhaderach	Dec 28th, 2008 04:41:20 AM

Damn You Michael Bay by MCMLXXVI	Dec 28th, 2008 04:47:00 AM
Damn You Michael Bay
How are the performances? by LoneGun	Dec 28th, 2008 04:49:09 AM
I hear that the actors don't use German accents in this one. Though it's getting mixed word, I'd still like to see this film. Just love World War II stuff. Also love Carice van Houten, love her with all my heart.
Worst film review ever for a GREAT film by Kirbymanly	Dec 28th, 2008 04:51:41 AM
Jesus, Harry. Either stay off the drink or do this at other than 5 in the morning. It's an AMAZING film, guys. Do yourselves a favor and see it. Leave your Cruise feelings at the door (as I did) and you'll find yourself wrapped in the best suspense movie since Hitch died. Seriously. It's by and by the most "yell at the screen" movie I've seen in a long time.
What-ev... by Lord John Whorfin	Dec 28th, 2008 05:00:27 AM
Tom Cruise ain't getting any of my money. This movie's just like Apollo 13: manufactured tension. Valkyrie should've ended how Inglorious Bastards is going to end. Now that would have been hilarious.
Lonegun by sonnyfern	Dec 28th, 2008 05:07:33 AM
The movie starts in German with subtitles, then fades away to English. I thought it was a great way to get passed the whole fake accent thing, which would've been distracting anyway...it didn't bother me one bit. The acting is pretty amazing all around.
Accents have never been a problem for me by NoodlesHahn	Dec 28th, 2008 06:06:52 AM
One of my favorite movies is Papillon which had only a handful of French accents and none in the lead roles. The fade to English bit at the start of Valkyrie is a great way to do it. It's a fantastic thriller and the cast is brilliant all around. Sometimes it's better to just find the best actors regardless of national origin and put them in positions to flourish and this cast (from Cruise to Izzard and everyone in between) does that. I think Valkyrie is a masterwork for Singer and McQuarrie.
Alright I'll admit Superman Returns wasn't... by cameron1975willi	Dec 28th, 2008 06:26:18 AM
...everything we hoped for. I think that it needed to be more 'mirror to reality' like The Dark Knight, not dark, just more realistic and less 'fantastical alternate universe'. It's still very good considering how hard a film it was to make in this day and age. Singer is a talented director and I know I'm gonna get a quality product when I go to see Valkyrie. I urge you who know diddly-squat about WWII do the same.
i will see this. i like cruise and historical wwII movies by Mr_X	Dec 28th, 2008 06:28:02 AM
INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS meh keep forgetting that pitt has been assigned.
On accents... by cameron1975willi	Dec 28th, 2008 06:28:31 AM
...The switchover from Russian to English in The Hunt for Red October was very good idea, maybe Singer should've done something like that?
WWII does not exist in this dojo by Cobra--Kai	Dec 28th, 2008 06:52:26 AM
My biggest concern about this movie was that it was going to be too realistic, too depressing, too heavy. To have Harry call it as a 'caper' actually makes me a whole lot more interested. My fave war films are definitely the ones from that 'caper' era - GREAT ESCAPE, WHERE EAGLES DARE, VON RYANS EXPRESS, GUNS OF NAVARONE. World War 2 as more of a fictional setting for high adventure and derring do. If VALKYRIE fits in with those movies (rather than the more sombre recent WWII efforts) then i'll be a happy boy.
From James Cameron, director of ALIENS and T2... by Motoko Kusanagi	Dec 28th, 2008 06:55:32 AM
...comes the next step in total fucking destruction: AVATAR - Fucking your eyeballs in 2009. Nothing else matters
Cobra--Kai by sonnyfern	Dec 28th, 2008 07:16:26 AM
Then you'll love Valkyrie man, Harry nailed it in comparing it to a caper flick.
Sonnyfern does not exist in this dojo by Cobra--Kai	Dec 28th, 2008 07:24:29 AM
Ok Sonnyfern - sold. I'm going to the flicks...
Sorry by NudeandAroused	Dec 28th, 2008 07:46:01 AM
I have all kinds of problems with this story. These guys are not heroes. They had no problem with Hitler from 1933-1942. It was only when he declared war on the US and got bogged down in the USSR that Stauffenberg and other Nazi aristocrats suddenly became so nationalistic. Mind you, they had no problem whatsoever with Hitler's despicable final solution. It was only when Stauffenberg is shot up in North Africa that suddenly he becomes aware. That being said, I will see the movie sometime. I like most of the cast, except for Cruise. I hope they portray these people for what they were, cowards.
Extremely Suspenseful... by Mindraven	Dec 28th, 2008 07:56:37 AM
I saw this yesterday and really enjoyed it. Within minutes I had forgotten all about Tom Cruise's offscreen antics, and the accents never bugged me. It's like a Greek tragedy - Everyone knows the characters and the general story, but what counts is how the playwright puts the story together and this one was put together well.
Shout out to MOTOKO!!!!! by standundermyumbrella	Dec 28th, 2008 08:03:13 AM

Shout out to MOTOKO!!!!! by standundermyumbrella	Dec 28th, 2008 08:03:14 AM

Shout out to MOTOKO!!!!! by standundermyumbrella	Dec 28th, 2008 08:03:45 AM
Keep spreading the WORD!
sonnyfern, I'm sold, too. by LoneGun	Dec 28th, 2008 09:23:47 AM
This will be my next movie.
by MikeTheSpike	Dec 28th, 2008 09:30:04 AM
I wanted to like that Rome show, but why the fuck didn't everyone talk in Latin? Really ruined the whole thing for me.
Nude- by MikeTheSpike	Dec 28th, 2008 09:35:52 AM
Good point. The movie didn't really play up the point that these guys were all pretty self-interested German nationalists who were only acting at the last possible moment to save their country from obliteration by, I presume, the Russians. They're not quite the heroes people might automatically assume just because they want to kill Hitler (and I'm not saying Singer goes out of his way to make them seem overly heroic). I'd be curious to know if any of these conspirators truly had a problem with the final solution, say, as the film implies.
OMG by rogueleader66	Dec 28th, 2008 09:43:14 AM
Enough with the fucking Avatar shit already it's making me sick. "Fucking your eyeballs blah blah blah blah" get a fucking life already, stop sucking JC's dick.
Could VALKYRIE help put steam back into WITH WINGS AS EAGLES by ABking	Dec 28th, 2008 09:59:31 AM
The box-office numbers of this Tom Cruise NAZI hero flick is doing pretty good. Could this help greenlight WITH WINGS AS EAGLES with a new star in the OSTERMAN role. Say a Russell Crowe or Christian Bale! Arnie never had the balls to do this in 1997 and I can't see him doing it now...he needs to comeback to what will automatically sell...TERMINATOR 5, PREDATOR 3, FORBIDDEN PLANET etc...
you know... by codymr	Dec 28th, 2008 10:48:12 AM
I liked this movie a lot: Cruise & cast were surprisingly good. Singer's direction was solid. It is an interesting story. But for some reason I left a little disappointing and I am not sure why. I think it may be because it unfolded by the numbers with few surprises or twists. I realize that it's a true story and there is not a lot of room for "interpretation". But I think the script could have been structured in such a way that things could have been revealed to the viewer - like layers of an onion - rather than just being explained through expositional talk by the characters. I know... I'm a picky bitch. On the other hand I LOVED Fincher's Benjamin Button - great film.
ABking by eXcommunicated	Dec 28th, 2008 11:17:57 AM
Predator 3 would be fantastic, as long as McTiernan came back.
Best film of 08 by technotranceporter	Dec 28th, 2008 11:26:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =DWBeNUei0SI
It wasn't bad at all. by Quake II	Dec 28th, 2008 11:28:08 AM
Not a classic, but a cool thrill while it lasted. I wouldn't see it in the theater again, but I wasn't pissed off when I walked out (like I was with Wanted this summer). Anyone who says Cruise was laughable has a personal agenda. I think Cruise is a raving nutball in his personal life, but he was fine in Valkyrie. Actually pretty likeable. I wished they could have pulled it off. It was so fucking close it's frustrating!
NudeandAroused...Stauffenberg by Quake II	Dec 28th, 2008 11:39:18 AM
The film implies that Stauffenberg was never really that keen on the Nazi party his whole career. He was a German soldier, but didn't consider himself a Nazi at all. The movie touches on that. Valkyrie also shows that some of these same high ranking officers involved in the Wolf's Lair plot had tried to kill Hitler years before with a bottle of Absynth containing explosives. Basically it was HARD to take Hitler out because of the fanatical loyalty surrounding him at all times, and the movie shows this. Stauffenberg's distaste fo the Nazis was well known and that's why he was eventually approached by the resistance. These guys just got a little bolder as the war progressed.
when harry was a boy he was accused of killing hitler by ironic_name	Dec 28th, 2008 11:55:29 AM
eva had him beaten. then hitler showed up and was all "?".. he was vindicated.
BRYAN SINGER STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM SUPERMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by Illuminate	Dec 28th, 2008 12:12:02 PM
I like Bryan Singer because he is a serious Director and Tom Cruise is a great actor who is NOT just another pretty boy. But, I am still pissed off that Bryan Singer turned Superman into a Fagget. Superman was not pissed off that Lois kept his son a secret and only thought about her spoiled brat self and at the end of the movie he let the bitch keep his son. For those who don't know, Bryan Singer is gay. There is nothing wrong with that. But, at the same time just because you like to suck Dick does not mean that you should make Superman a cock sucker. Also, X-2 sucked asshole. I have thousands of comics and I am a real comic book fan. X-2 had great drama but, I went to go see Superheros fight Super-villains like in the comics and there was barely any of that. It was mostly Superheroes fighting regular humans just like that shit fest called Superman Returns. Go fuck yourself Bryan Singer. Oh, but, at least The Usual Suspects was a good movie and his last good one. I am glad they are not giving this dipshit the sequel because if they did Superman would lift two huge rocks instead of one. Richard Donner is a GREAT Director and he was right about sticking to his mythology since, you cannot reboot Superman. THERE IS NOTHING MORE HIGH TECH THAN A SHIP MADE OUT OF CRYSTAL. So, anything anyone would come up with would be a step back in technology. At the same time Bryan Singer should stop being such a pussy and made Superman Returns more action packed and made Lois Lane sexy like that chick on Smallville. Instead he made Lois Lane into a selfish little bitch. They need a curvy and sexy real actress who has a really really nice personality to play the part. Anybody else will just come off like another bitchy chick.
Looks ok but you know what by Spike fan	Dec 28th, 2008 12:12:05 PM
I wish they would concentrate on the Pacific theatre the Memoirs of George Mcdonald Fraser Quartered Safe Out Here of his time under Slim in Burma would make a great film
Tom Cruise's Personal Life by Etrigan_	Dec 28th, 2008 01:54:13 PM
For those who don't care about Tom Cruise's personal life just remember, he thinks you are an inferior species of human. Scientologists believe they are Homo Novus and the only salvation for the Earth is for everyone to become a Scientologist. Those who don't are to be "disposed of quietly and without sorrow" to quote L Ron Hubbard. But, if that doesn't bother you then OK.
Claus was a hero by whatevillurks	Dec 28th, 2008 02:37:04 PM
Disagree aroused...its easy to look back and say people should have done something immediatly. But it was an unstopable machine....this country was humiliated after WWI...why not go along with the new era? Just be glad these guys did SOMETHING. Stauffenburg is a hero. He did not like the atrocities he saw commited on the Russian front by German soldiers.
To those who've seen it: by FatherMcGruderKicksAssForTheLord	Dec 28th, 2008 03:40:28 PM
I intend to see Valkyrie myself soon, but could you answer a question I've had about it (assuming, of course, that the answer wouldn't spoil anything)? Does the screenplay mention anything about a guy named Erwin Rommel?
FatherMcGruderKicksAssForTheLor d... by Quake II	Dec 28th, 2008 06:24:40 PM
Rommel is not brought up in the film. I was looking for that as well. He was eventually linked to the plot and forced to commit suicide to avoid a trial and inevitable execution. Many say Rommel's name was brought up during an interrogation and that's how he was linked. From what I've read, Rommel did know of the plot but was not directly involved.
the movie... by maxwell's hammer	Dec 28th, 2008 07:31:58 PM
...is good. There is a workman-like precision to seeing how the plot plays out, and all the big stars are very subdued in their roles, including Tom Cruise who plays Stauffenberg as a frustrated man who seems to know this is all destined to fail, but he'll be damned if its going to because of him. Izzard is very good in his few brief scenes, and Bill Nighy is downright awesome. Fuck the critics. I think any negative reviews this film is getting (and there aren't as many as some would have you believe) are just jumping on the pre-release bandwagon of getting down on Tom Cruise. Its not the best of the year, and I don't think it should pick up any big Oscar noms, but it is a very good movie that effectively tells an interesting story.
Great film that suffers due to Cruise's baggage by polyh3dron	Dec 28th, 2008 08:08:02 PM
This is the film that will seal Tom Cruise's fate and certify his status as box office poison. Everyone I know who doesn't want to see it or doesn't like it just hates it because of him.
it was good and the negative reviews showed by the_frog	Dec 28th, 2008 08:13:27 PM
an obvious anti-cruise bias. Much better than some idiotic movie about a stupid dog.
also, the dude who played by the_frog	Dec 28th, 2008 08:14:06 PM
Fromme was great.
Thanks, Quake II by FatherMcGruderKicksAssForTheLord	Dec 28th, 2008 08:14:36 PM
I figured as much, as I didn't see anyone cast in the role via IMDB credits. Seems like a glaring omission, but I'll wait and see the film before I proclaim that to the hills.
What bugs me... by HollywoodBob	Dec 28th, 2008 08:38:41 PM
...is that von Stauffenberg would have succeeded had he not been out to save his own ass. That's why I have little interest in seeing this. It's a mildly interesting story, that's ruined because the main character in it wasn't willing to sacrifice himself to ensure success, knowing that if they failed he and his co-conspirators would be hunted down and executed.
Box office poison? by NoodlesHahn	Dec 28th, 2008 08:45:59 PM
$30 million over the long weekend is pretty good, isn't it? What was it expected to do? At the very least Cruise's holiday downer will do better than Will Smith's holiday downer and that has to be a moral victory. Valkyrie deserves its success, it's a very easy movie to get into and I think it'll survive a long time.
Not Going On This Cruise by Maxwell Bishop	Dec 28th, 2008 08:51:01 PM
I don't like Tom Cruise enough to see this. Can't really stand the guy. I have the same issues with Alec Baldwin and Tim Robbins. They all act like complete jackasses in their real lives it is hard to take that out of my thought process when watching their films. Advice to any actor no matter how famous you are. Keep your homelife and your politics to yourself. You're an actor. That's all you are. Do your job and go home. No one cares what you think about how the "little guy" should live or what you think what should be done in the political arena of ideas.
Except people do care about by NoodlesHahn	Dec 28th, 2008 09:06:50 PM
what famous actors think about politics. That's why people keep asking them. If you want celebrities to act like normal people then we should treat them like normal people but we don't do that. Maxwell Bishop, you say no one cares but if that were true, their political opinions would have no effect on you at all. But it does. It's entire reason you posted. This tells them that their voice means something and they're going to keep talking. When an actor makes their politcs public and nobody reacts positively or negatively in the slightest then it will stop. As long as people react, it won't.
suicide attempt by whatevillurks	Dec 28th, 2008 09:35:55 PM
One officer tried a suicide attack....it didnt work.
Worse bit is, Red Dwarf spoiled this for me in 1993... by James_O'Nasty	Dec 28th, 2008 10:18:17 PM
Lister finds THE briefcase and Rimmer says, "Ah, yes, Von Stauffenberg, he tried to kill Hitler with a bomb in a briefcase!!!!"
Hey, Etrigan re: Tom Cruise's person life. by RandySavage	Dec 28th, 2008 11:16:50 PM
"Scientologists believe they the only salvation for the Earth is for everyone to become a Scientologist." All 3 Abrahamic religions (Christianity,Judaism,Islam) have almost identical pillars to the above statement. I wouldn't let an actor's spiritual beliefs affect your enjoyment of a film.
I'd love Singer to do a espionage thriller by Charlie_Allnut	Dec 28th, 2008 11:43:57 PM
ala the Odessa File etc. Plus LOVE Sahara. Little seen Bogie classic.
Great Movie by antonphd	Dec 28th, 2008 11:57:46 PM
Harry pretty much nails it in the review. I will say that even if there is a Tom Cruise backlash that is preventing people from seeing this movie... Tom Cruise is the ONLY reason this movie made 30 million that last few days. It's a movie about nazis releasing on Christmas. Tom Cruise is driving the box office on this one. There may be some kids who don't give a fuck about Tom Cruise and some women who are still pissed that he talked trash about cars sales commercials girl... but guys just want to watch a good movie and they know that Tom Cruise delivers a good movie. Anyone trashing this movie DOES have a Tom Cruise problem. But if you care that he has a crazy religion and you just celebrated the birth of super baby a few days ago... then you have some serious religious bigotry going on. And that is too bad for you. Cause all super people beliefs are crazy.
Fuck those scientologists... by maxwell's hammer	Dec 29th, 2008 12:38:54 AM
Give me a religion where your God sends his son to Earth for the sole purpose of being murdered; females were created from the rib of man, who spent his formative years in a garden naming every animal on Earth; a magical bush catches on fire and then talks to you; and sinners get swallowed by giant fish and regurgitated when they become repentant. Long live super-baby!!
OK, but will this be the last movie about this topic? by tombseye	Dec 29th, 2008 02:21:12 AM
I mean come on. This story has been retold numerous times. Maybe this is the best version, but can we give the assassination of Hitler a rest after this? Pretty please? World War 1, it's just sitting there waiting for some Hollywood interpretation that will no doubt make the Germans (even though all the players were imperialists fighting over colonies and such) look like the bad guys yet again, but at least it will be something different.
maxwell's hammer is gon' get buttfucked by the jewish justice le by ironic_name	Dec 29th, 2008 04:54:04 AM

league by ironic_name	Dec 29th, 2008 04:55:25 AM
haw!
The more I think about this one, the mosr I kinda like it, BUT.. by Kentucky Colonel	Dec 29th, 2008 08:07:06 AM
I saw this one many weeks ago thanks to an AFI screening up in Silver Springs, MD. Thanks, AFI, for throwing us Easties a bone every once and awhile. At the time I though it to be nothing but Nazi Porn (the Costumes, the Swasticas, the REAL LOCATIONS! yadda yadda). I knew the story. Hell, I'm one of those freaks who will watch the Nazis get their asses kicked on whatever Edutainmnet channel has them on (as an aside, I loved it when Homer Simpson was watching one of the aforementioned shows and called the Luftwaffe the "Washington Generals" of History. Zing!). And then there was the two hour infomercial "specil" on the History channel last night. A pretty damned good one, too. I've gotten over the whole accent (or lack of) issue with the film. And I've always stated that the movie looks damn fine. I even can get over the Tom Cruise/Xenu creepiness. Tom may be o bit whacky, but who in their right mind isn't a little wacky? My problem, an it's a small one to be sure, but you just don't ROOT for NAZIS. And I was rooting for them. Bad me. Bad, bad me. Rooting for Staffenberg's Nazis to win is like rooting for your Brain Cancer to kill you before your Pancreatic Cancer does. And Hitler is definately the Pancreatic cancer of History. Yea, cool, sure, there were some good folks who didn't like Hitler and what he was doing to their Deutchland, and they tried to kill him. Great. Couldn't you have done a little bit better of a job, guys? You make some fantastic cars and stereos, and you can kill millions like shooting fish in a barrel, but you can't kill one sociopath?? Just once, can we get a little major historical revisionisim andsomebody kill the motherfucker! Lastly, the new Looney Tunes Golden Collection, v6, is awesome except for the third disc, which is full of Bosco shorts. Great for the Bosco lovers, sure, but couldn't we had had those on a seperate DVD, maybe, for the few Bosco lovers out there, and fill the third disc up with something better...like maybe the SNAFU cartoons? Disc 2 is full of WWII cartoons, sadly missing though is "Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips" (on YouTube, though). The Mel Blanc documentary will make you cry a little. Mel was THE MAN! Nazis Bad. Bosco Bad. Looney Tunes Good. Snafu Good.
Best Nazi-Getting -Their-Asses-Handed-To-Them flick by Kentucky Colonel	Dec 29th, 2008 08:17:33 AM
"Escape From Sobibor" With Rutger Hauer & others. Also based on the true story of the only successful mass escape from one of Hitler's Death Camps. apx. 600 prisoners tried a mass escape, killing as many Nazis as they could. 300 made it out alive. It's a great movie...and an even better story! It was made for TV, but it damn well dosen't look it.
Hitler was Xenu.. Duh! Plus Tom Cruise is a Creepy Fucker by hatespeech	Dec 29th, 2008 09:25:45 AM
nuff said.
historically accurate?? by ArcadianDS	Dec 29th, 2008 12:27:03 PM
Pretty much everything I've seen relating to that topic says that while true to the basic story (i.e. Hitler didn't die and wasn't from another planet), that the majority of the film is a work of total fiction.
The TRUTH behind Cruises film character... by Sackratte	Dec 29th, 2008 05:11:55 PM
The grandfather of a friend knew a German priest from WW2. This priest has met Cruises character in real right after he has left Germany (and right after he put the bomb in place). The priest met him as he got out of his plane and the priest greet him with his rank... and he said something like: "From now on GENERAL!". So I believe the whole 'We kill Hitler' story is bullshit. They all wanted a huge piece of the cake and nothing else! True story!
There were some good Germans... by DudeOne	Dec 29th, 2008 07:47:16 PM
I just saw a two-hour special on the whole Valkyrie situation last night on the History channel...there were several attempts to take out Hitler before Stauffenberg got involved. Hitler had the world's best luck - either he left too early in some of the cases or, in one case on a plane, the bombs that were put inside were too cold to go off. He seemed to always evade assassination attempts by a whisker. Also another problem was the older German soldiers, the generals, couldn't agree on an aggressive plan so the younger generation, the colonels, finally got together and that's how Stauffenberg got involved. This core group of German officials risked everything, they had big mansions and lots of money and they knew if their plan failed they would be executed (and probably tortured first). The plan to kill Hitler almost worked. When the chief guys were caught, along with Stauffenberg, their families were ostracized as traitors for years.
Superman Returns by Ivan_Mtl	Dec 30th, 2008 08:01:30 AM
The sooner we stop talking about it, the sooner we can pretend that it never happened. Of course, Bryan Singer should be kept as far away as possible from any future Superman film.
GetEveryone by RandySavage	Dec 30th, 2008 01:40:50 PM
My point was that all three religions have at their heart (and original form before multi-faith dialogue of the late 20th century) strict rules and beliefs about the superiority and singularity, like apparently scientologists do. So Judaism may preach the conversion of gentiles (keep the club exclusive) but the Talmud has pretty statements on the benefits and superiority that members of Chosen People can enjoy over the gentiles. Similarly, Christians believe only they will receive salvation after death.
by RandySavage	Dec 30th, 2008 01:43:07 PM
I mangled the above post while rushing, but you get my point.
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Great movie by Gungan Slayer	Jan 2nd, 2009 07:53:22 PM
I saw "Valkyrie" yesterday and greatly enjoyed it, as I suspected I would. I've been looking forward to this film for sometime now. I do have to agree with Harry, in that it does very much feel like those WW2 movies from the 60s...and that's a good thing in my book. I hope it sticks around and does well at the box office, because MGM really needs a hit.
Hitler not only destroyed the german state.. by emeraldboy	Jan 15th, 2009 12:33:05 PM
but destroyed his family too.
Last week on a very popular rte radio show.. by emeraldboy	Jan 15th, 2009 12:47:11 PM
called liveline I was reminded about why I loathe The tony quinn organisation. he is a proponent of the OPM get rich schemes. Other peoples money. I have an aunt who is involved with this charlatan's organisation. The secret to this guys wealth is that each seminar is limited to ten people per head. On his bahamas seminar he pays 15,000 euros. so that is 150,000. For Executive course its 50,000. so that is 500,000. I have a relative who is quite happy to pay that money get their head filled full of bs. One of his courses was entitled "do you want to live forever". A fool and his money is easily parted. The tony quinn organisation runs courses in London, the united states, Egypt the bahamas. One woman who got involved in TQO course had to pay 63,000. Again if you do the math, there was ten people on the course, so that was 630,000 into dr quinns pockets. He runs a number of health food stores in Ireland and is also braching into the gym business in Ireland. His gym company is called EDUCO. The man is a charlatan and a fruadster and must be avoided at all cost. and a parasite.
Agree!! by writermom	Jan 24th, 2009 05:05:48 PM
Not a huge Cruise fan, thought I wouln't like it, but loved it!! The cast was so amazing -- Cruise was surrounded by the best - he didn't have to be great.
nice acting, great direction but... by Mr Gorilla	Feb 16th, 2009 10:13:42 AM
...somehow this didn't quite involve me as I think it should have done. the writers, stars, director etc are all top class, so I certainly wouldn't deign to suggest what they could have done to right this. But, amazing and heartbreaking as this story is, it wasn't as moving as one imagines the people behind it wanted to be. That said, I am so glad I saw it on the massive screen. And kudos to Cruiser for surrounding himself with great Brit and German thesps.

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