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by ECUPirate71
Dec 17th, 2008
08:35:23 AM
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by Shan
Dec 17th, 2008
08:36:06 AM
I don't think anything will be on the scale of the Delgo debacle but I have to say that I haven't really heard about this film at all. I guess the question that I'll never understand are films where a lot of money is spent on them but then the makers give up on the extra investment needed to market their film, often effectively writing off most of the money that they've already spent. I guess in some of those cases though, they know there's no point.

Hopefully this film will do OK to justify the expense.

love Selick, i'd be there anyway
by filmcoyote
Dec 17th, 2008
08:53:45 AM
from Jack Skellington to Steve Zissou's tiger shark he's great. I'll be there. So looking forward to this and Jonze's Where The Wild Things Are in 09
Wait, why'd he see the whole thing?
by Garbageman33
Dec 17th, 2008
08:56:16 AM
And the BNAT crowd only got 20 minutes? Uh-oh, I better stop. I'm in danger of sounding like an "overentitled cunt.
John Hodgman
by yodalovesyou
Dec 17th, 2008
09:22:52 AM
The same one from 'The Daily Show'?
Good to hear that Selick should have another good film.
by beastie
Dec 17th, 2008
10:10:32 AM
Wasn't a fan of James and the Giant Peach and Monkeybone sucked, so it's been a while for him.
I agree garbageman
by Mel Gibsteinberg
Dec 17th, 2008
10:29:28 AM
What happened with BNAT? Its now Wednesday following the big event, and still no article from the big guy, or Moriarty (and he's leaving as well?). Sounds like some were dissapointed and trying to put on a good face.

Correction, they were not dissapointed in the outcome, yes yes, there was good stuff, just dissapointed in what it could have been and what ended up dropping out.

Beowulf totaly sold me on 3D
by Rupee88
Dec 17th, 2008
10:30:42 AM
not sure how it will work on live action films but it's great for CG ones and it probably works well for this.
Excited to see this!!!
by BigFo
Dec 17th, 2008
11:02:49 AM
Good review Gaspode. I'm not sure I'd have the grapes to send anything in with the blood still in the water from the whole Doughboy incident.
Henry Selick on LIVE WIRE!
by I am the most horrible
Dec 17th, 2008
11:38:34 AM
Reminder that Selick will be a guest on Live Wire! radio variety show Friday Dec. 19th at the Aladdin Theater in Portland OR.

Details at livewireradioDOT org

Pacific Northwest?
by Cap'n Jack
Dec 17th, 2008
11:57:36 AM
the book takes place in the fucking UK.
Photoman
by BrooseTheScharuk
Dec 17th, 2008
12:33:11 PM
Are you unfamiliar with Henry Selick? Maybe you're just trying to be funny or stir shit up. What you're saying is like suggesting that some respected guitarist actually just created all of his solos note by note on some drag-and-drop music creation software.
CG vs. Stop Motion
by Egheaumaen
Dec 17th, 2008
01:49:27 PM
Actually, Broose, Henry Selick directed the short animated film "Moongirl" up at Laika, and that was CG. So he has experimented with the form. However, if you take a look at all those "Coraline" behind-the-scenes videos that were posted on Rotten Tomatoes a couple of months ago, it's clear that this movie is stop-motion.
Can't wait to see this
by elektralyte
Dec 17th, 2008
02:35:09 PM
I've been wanting to see Coraline for a while now. I misread the review. I thought it said that David Keith was doing the voice of the cat and I thought "Hey he really does disappear in his voice work..."
Photoman's right
by seppukudkurosawa
Dec 17th, 2008
03:22:32 PM
At least I theeenk so. This is CG-simulated stop-motion, not the real McCoy. Not that I'm necessarily against that if it gives Selick more tricks to fath around with.

Great review, Gaspode! And I'm not just saying that in comparison to a certain someone's Spirit write-up. When you're creating your own little world like Selick, it's pretty fucking important being able to write your own script and go wherever your imagination takes you. So I'm kinda glad this steers away from Gaiman's book a little. Especially considering it doesn't do so to homogenize the material, but more to add more colour (is that the right word for something this murky) to the world.

Umm. No.
by RK_Maroon
Dec 17th, 2008
03:38:49 PM
What part of "stop motion" don't you understand?
The snark is strong in this one
by seppukudkurosawa
Dec 17th, 2008
04:29:34 PM
Easy tiger, I said I wasn't sure. I just remember an interview here with Selick where I thought he said it was CGI stop motion, as opposed to him just playing with dolls.
KEITH DAVID AS THE CAT!!!!!!
by DOGSOUP
Dec 17th, 2008
04:36:07 PM
They changed so much. BUT I still think this will be excellent. It's good enough for Neil it's good enough for me. Keith David!!!!!
Jondough, please read this review.
by IAmMrMonkey!
Dec 17th, 2008
05:49:07 PM
You see how it's done? You don't need a rambling epic. Get in, tell us enough about the movie to get our mouths watering, give an opinion and then get out.

I will see this.

swell
by Subtlety
Dec 17th, 2008
06:14:13 PM
hope its as good as all that, we'll all be very happy
I Loved Stardust, Would I Like This?
by estacado1
Dec 17th, 2008
06:32:43 PM
I'm not a fan of stop motion.
I'm wondering...
by Blue_Demon
Dec 17th, 2008
07:59:29 PM
if by "CGI-Stop motion" they mean cgi-enhanced stop motion. Aren't most movies now enhanced with one form of digital effects or another? Extended sets and all that?

They may have animated genuine puppets and simply extended the sets with cgi or they may have scanned maquettes and moved them digitally, who knows? Guess we'll have to wait for the Cinemagic article. Regardless, this looks great.

Gaiman
by criticalbliss
Dec 17th, 2008
11:50:49 PM
You have to change his books to make a proper film. So far, nothing derived from his work has been any good. I don't have much hope for this. Gaiman's characters seem to be puppets of plot and gimmickry rather than real people. I'd love to be wrong and for this to be good, though.
criticalbliss
by tolomey
Dec 18th, 2008
01:07:16 AM
I'm afraid you are mistaken when saying that nothing derived from Gaiman's work has been any good. Neverwhere was turned into a tv show by the bbc in the 90's and was excellent - probably a bit dated now, but I enjoyed both the book and the show
Ah
by criticalbliss
Dec 18th, 2008
01:43:41 AM
I haven't seen Neverwhere. You might be right.
Such a disappointment! Selick got the tone all wrong!
by Snake Foreskin
Dec 18th, 2008
09:50:33 AM
His vision takes the creepiness out of the story altogether. The art direction and animation is all wrong. It does not do the book justice AT ALL. What a missed opportunity.
PLANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Fart_Master_Flex
Dec 18th, 2008
11:28:47 AM
Sorry, I always wanted to call someone out as a plant. I didn't even read the fucking review. Ha ha.
BUT HE DIES AT THE END OF PART III
by ArcadianDS
Dec 18th, 2008
11:40:52 AM
and the little puppy is all sad!
When I saw Coraline
by gotdane
Dec 18th, 2008
12:57:57 PM
it was a work in progress but it was even beautiful to watch then. I can't wait to see the final product (especially what they end up doing with the burlesque scene as it was pretty risque for a kids film) even though the subject matter wasn't really up my alley.
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