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DARK KNIGHT and IRON MAN Both Make American Film Institute’s Top 10 Movies Of 2008!!

That's cool by SoylentMean	Dec 14th, 2008 08:24:09 PM
I guess
WTF is Wendy & Lucy? by SoylentMean	Dec 14th, 2008 08:24:47 PM
Is it like Bound? Me likey Bound.
no speed racer??? by yubnubrocks	Dec 14th, 2008 08:24:50 PM
the horror, the horror
Blanchett looks super hot in Button by SoylentMean	Dec 14th, 2008 08:25:48 PM
Just saying. I wonder if she is tempted to punch Gwyneth Paltrow in the uterus every time she sees her.
Are those in order? by richievanderlow	Dec 14th, 2008 08:26:03 PM

by robamenta	Dec 14th, 2008 08:26:21 PM
i walked out of dark night and thought iron man was very over- rated
Milk, um, I'm gonna skip that one by SoylentMean	Dec 14th, 2008 08:27:58 PM
The whole story is told in the trailer, seems a tad bit on the preachy side. We get it Hollywood, you're down with the same sex bedtime rodeos. Move it on to something with explosions and tits please.
Frost/Nixon looks interesting by SoylentMean	Dec 14th, 2008 08:30:28 PM
But will it include hallucinations with ties?
He definitely said "It's a lion!" by Dataset	Dec 14th, 2008 08:30:40 PM
Sorry. I have nothing.
IRON MAN?!!! Top 10 of the year?!! Oh.....FUCK YOU. by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 14th, 2008 08:31:36 PM
That just an asinine statement.
soylentmean by richievanderlow	Dec 14th, 2008 08:31:51 PM
I agree.. It would be nice for some bold choices to be made on the part of the academy... and this year, that would be TDK. Milk is the same true story, feel good biopic that always gets done and nominated every awards season. I feel about TDK the same way I felt about LOTR and it finally won with ROTK. Milk is the kind of nominee you will essentially see every awards season. Time to show a little open minded-ness to a new breed of movie.
Dataset by yubnubrocks	Dec 14th, 2008 08:32:12 PM
Ah yes, gotta love that! :)
TDK was great, so I agree with the AFI by SoylentMean	Dec 14th, 2008 08:32:19 PM
A concession granted is a flower in bloom
Everyone agrees with explosions and tits by SoylentMean	Dec 14th, 2008 08:33:30 PM
Exploding tits, however, is just wrong
TDK by yubnubrocks	Dec 14th, 2008 08:35:09 PM
Finally saw this one on Tuesday. Excellent movie. Need to watch it again. I was afraid the hype would kill it but no, it more than met my expectations. I can see this getting a nod for best pic - a definite win for HL - wow.
next year it will be wolverine! by darthwaz1	Dec 14th, 2008 08:35:28 PM
top movie of 09'... hey why didn't the Hulk get anything??
Why isn't there more love for Synecdoche, New York? by kungfuhustler84	Dec 14th, 2008 08:35:54 PM
Didn't anybody love that movie like I did? But Iron Man made it?
I'm going to say this again, AICN by SoylentMean	Dec 14th, 2008 08:36:32 PM
That fuckin' rhymes bitches! OK, observation aside, we need a dedicated talkback for our own top ten or whatever number of films we so choose. It's pretty much what these talkbacks turn into anyways.
Suprisingly populist by lex romero	Dec 14th, 2008 08:37:06 PM
And did no one watch a film made outside of America this year?
May have to give TDK another chance... by Flip63Hole	Dec 14th, 2008 08:37:20 PM
Left early in the theater and fell asleep trying to watch it at a friends. So far, TDK's 0/2 with me...
kungfuhustler, that movie is in limited release by SoylentMean	Dec 14th, 2008 08:38:24 PM
Synewhatthefuckever, New York ain't playin' at most folks local cineplex. So most likely the average schmuck on here hasn't seen that movie yet.
lex, I did not travel this year by SoylentMean	Dec 14th, 2008 08:39:22 PM
All of my movies were watched in the good ol' U. S. A.
Kudos to Stephen King by Seth_Brundle	Dec 14th, 2008 08:43:53 PM
Way to stick to your guns on your Top Ten list. Any movie that stars Jason Statham, destroys cars, blows shit up without any significant plot, and is directed by Paul W.S. Anderson should make anyone's Best Movies of list!
Iron Man is top 50 worthy...maybe by s0nicdeathmonkey	Dec 14th, 2008 08:45:36 PM
But certainly not top 10. Frankly, that decision makes them a reasonable pick for the same "listmakers" list as Steven King.
ok... by yubnubrocks	Dec 14th, 2008 08:46:44 PM
so should we define why a movie deserves a top 10???
Where's In Bruges? by BackRiverCatfish	Dec 14th, 2008 08:47:34 PM
Oh yeah, nevermind, it's not there because IT'S SHIT!
It's all subjective and you are all wrong by SoylentMean	Dec 14th, 2008 08:48:01 PM
Subjectively
WENDY AND LUCY is a pretentious piece of shit... by FuckMichaelBay	Dec 14th, 2008 08:51:16 PM
...and a waste of your time and money.
CGI Babies Suck CGI Tits! by BackwardGalaxy	Dec 14th, 2008 08:51:44 PM
There, I said it.
What? No Role Models or House Bunny? by Gus Van Rant	Dec 14th, 2008 08:51:57 PM
Fuck this list and use it as Rosie O'Donnell's tampon.
BackRiver, I have dined upon your kinsmen by SoylentMean	Dec 14th, 2008 08:54:19 PM
Fried is best, but grilled or broiled will do as well. In Bruges was great and you can't tell me that the Brendan Gleeson falling from the tower scene wasn't awesome. It was a full on splat for crying out loud!
Kingdom ofthe Crystal Skull! by TheMcflyFarm	Dec 14th, 2008 08:57:23 PM
deep down, you know it to be true
Synecdoche, New York by auddym	Dec 14th, 2008 08:57:26 PM
Was definitely top ten if not top 5 material. Wall-E on the other hand...I don't see it. Pixar's last great film was Finding Nemo, the other movies were ok but not top 10 worthy. I'm surprised AFI snubbed Slumdog Millionaire.
auddym, Finding Nemo came before The Incredibles by SoylentMean	Dec 14th, 2008 08:59:02 PM
Therefore you have blasphemed.
this not best movie list by mr_l_74	Dec 14th, 2008 09:00:02 PM
where's meet dave, love guru, max pain??? This list sucks
AFI stands for... by Gus Van Rant	Dec 14th, 2008 09:00:37 PM
Absolutely Fucked Instantly...this list is not worthy to grace my computer screen. Seriously, where the fuck is Step Brothers?
If I were a betting man, I'd say DARK KNIGHT gets nominated... by JackIsLost	Dec 14th, 2008 09:04:44 PM
for Oscar for Best Pic instead of REVOLUTIONARY ROAD. Have you seen the trailers for that thing? It looks like it should come with Prozac.
In Bruges probably isnt there because by Ace of Knaves	Dec 14th, 2008 09:10:20 PM
its not an American production.
No Rambo Again? by ballsmcretard	Dec 14th, 2008 09:13:22 PM

You guys aren't good at watching movies. by ballsmcretard	Dec 14th, 2008 09:14:09 PM

TDK had 1 out of 2 by a rolling stone	Dec 14th, 2008 09:15:49 PM
TDK had explosions. Tits on the other hand...I don't want to see Maggie's tits. She was great in the movie, waaaaay better than Katie, but...I really don't want to see her tits. I really don't. For no reason would I want to see Maggie's tits. I'd rather see the Latina chick's tits, the cop who double-crossed Harvey? I'd rather see that pair before I see Maggie's. Nothing against Maggie, I just...no. No. I don't need to see Maggie's tits. Not ever. No.
Top 10 lists. by Amy Chasing	Dec 14th, 2008 09:16:37 PM
There sure are alot of them. Do people get paid for making them?
To reiterate by a rolling stone	Dec 14th, 2008 09:16:46 PM
No.
wendy and lucy by The InSneider	Dec 14th, 2008 09:23:43 PM
is great featuring an exceptional performance from michelle williams.
Don't be so by The Brains	Dec 14th, 2008 09:24:01 PM
pig ignerent!
Why Iron Man is one of our fave movies this year... by Amy Chasing	Dec 14th, 2008 09:26:32 PM
I found it hugely entertaining and it's the one I'm most eager to see its sequel. Interesting, entertaining, well made, true to its genre and plenty of movie magic. Easy 4 star film. Probably 4.5
Critics are more populist than ever by superunknown85	Dec 14th, 2008 09:32:49 PM
They like whatever is hip to like or whatever makes the most money. Even the Golden Globes didn't ignore In Bruges.
Glad to see "Frozen River" in there... by hike499	Dec 14th, 2008 09:42:16 PM
One of the best gems of the year featuring some of the best acting of the year from Melissa Leo. Definitely check it out...
I preferred Incredible Hulk to Iron Man by MCVamp	Dec 14th, 2008 09:42:42 PM
And most people look at me like I'm an idiot. While that may be the case, how are the two movies really so far apart in quality? Seems to me that Downey just comes off as more likable (a by product of the free-wheeling character) and Iron Man didn't have the Ang Lee Albatross around its neck. Hell, both movies even had a similar ending (protagonist fights a bigger, meaner version of himself.) Just saying. I mean, Iron Man WAS good and all.
Gran Torino by PTSDPete	Dec 14th, 2008 09:48:04 PM
Good.
TDK > Hellboy 2 > Iron Man > Incredible Hulk by m_reporter	Dec 14th, 2008 09:48:40 PM
I'm kinda disappointed that Hellboy 2 didn't get much love this year, be it at the BO or from the critics when it comes to top 10 lists and shit... Had a bunch of glowing reviews though. Hell, even most fanboys forgot about it...
But then again ...shit. by PTSDPete	Dec 14th, 2008 09:54:03 PM
Richard Corliss would bypass a masterwork like Dark Knight for a cinematic abortion. And that " 4 Months, 3 Weeks & 2 Days " hogwash was from the LAST YEAR ! AFI gets some respect from me again, anyways. And why did Stephen King NOT pick ' Let The Right One In ' ?
Incredible Hulk was fun as was Hellboy 2 by Amy Chasing	Dec 14th, 2008 09:57:18 PM
I just didn't find them as interesting as Iron Man. They were still entertaining though, and funny - I thought Hellboy 2 was funnier than the first one, and that line in Hulk "You won't like me when I'm... hungry" was brilliant.
WALL-E>TDK by GeorgieBoy	Dec 14th, 2008 10:04:20 PM
Good God, TDK is over-rated. Wall-E actually has heart and is enjoyable. Only sickos love TDK.
The Inseider: Please explain why W & L is "great". by FuckMichaelBay	Dec 14th, 2008 10:07:16 PM
thanks!
The InSneider by FuckMichaelBay	Dec 14th, 2008 10:07:59 PM
sorry
What...no Punisher: War Zone?! by IAmMrMonkey!	Dec 14th, 2008 10:12:13 PM
Okay, I kid. I saw Frost/Nixon recently and thought it was amazing, so I'm glad to see it getting some nods. I also saw Milk and, whilst I thought Penn was great, the movie overall didn't enchant me (although this was most likely because, as a straight male who has never had to fight for the right to live a straight lifestyle, i personally found it difficult to relate to the gay rights issue. If I was gay, I'm sure it would have struck a much stronger chord with me and probably would have been one of my favourite movies of the year).
"Only sickos love TDK" by Amy Chasing	Dec 14th, 2008 10:12:59 PM
It's a sick, sick, sicko world. ;)
robamenta by Thrillho77	Dec 14th, 2008 10:17:39 PM
Obvious douche is obvious.
Uhmmm... Mr. Corliss? Uhhh, what? by L.H.Puttgrass	Dec 14th, 2008 10:26:03 PM
I don't like Top 10 Lists simply because, like in the case of movies, they can be arbitrary and subjective. Let's say one year only 7 movies deserve to be on the "Top Ten" list and the next you get 12. So one year you promote 3 movies that don't deserve it and the next you ignore 2 that do? See? I hate that. Top Ten lists make a line in the sand. These 10 are the best! And those ones... are not. So whether he wanted to or not, Mr. Corliss is telling us that Speed Racer (I thought it was a good popcorn movie with great art direction and SFX) is a better movie than The Dark Knight. Now, Stephen King has Death Race on his list but, Mr. King is by trade a novelist. Richard Corliss is a film critic. So I don't know. Did he have to draw the Top Ten line somewhere? Or does he think Speed Racer is that good? Hey, everyones got an opinion. Aww, fuck it. I stopped reading Time magazine a long, long time ago.
Top 10 lists only work if... by Amy Chasing	Dec 14th, 2008 10:32:06 PM
they're in no particular order. You can't rate Wall-E against In Bruges. They're two different genres so it'd be like rating the proverbial apples and volkswagens. Better to call it a "10 favorites list" anyway.
It comes as no surprise that the multitude of dipshits here... by FiendishMilt37	Dec 14th, 2008 10:46:58 PM
... fail to realize that the AMERICAN Film Institute only honors AMERICAN films. No "Slumdog Millionaire". No "In Bruges". No "The Band's Visit". GOT IT??
yea i liked the way ebert handled his best movies list by crazybubba	Dec 14th, 2008 10:51:01 PM
he didn't rank any them and he had more than ten. He refused to be boxed in by the top ten formula Puttgrass talked about.
AFI doesn't just honor American films by superunknown85	Dec 14th, 2008 10:57:49 PM
They have a number of non-American productions on their Best Films of All Time list, including Lawrence of Arabia, Lord of the Rings, and A Clockwork Orange. Besides, it's not as if In Bruges isn't an English-language film with no Hollywood stars...
A "random amount of favorites in chaos" list. by Amy Chasing	Dec 14th, 2008 11:01:38 PM
Fuck order and this arbitrary amount of 10.
So is Slumdog Millionaire British or Indian? by jimmay	Dec 14th, 2008 11:04:24 PM
British Director + Indian cast/crew = ?
Yeah I can handle this list by DDMAN26	Dec 14th, 2008 11:07:23 PM
Considering three of my top films Dark Knight, Wall-E and Iron Man are on here. Can't wait to see Frost/Nixon and Ben Button
No CHE? by StarWarsRedux	Dec 14th, 2008 11:07:44 PM
Granted, it's not even remotely widely seen yet, but still.
SLUMDOG FOR OSCAR by iwontwin	Dec 14th, 2008 11:11:00 PM
It was a great film...it really delved deep into Indian society, and was directed beautifully
THE DARK KNIGHT by BurgerTime	Dec 14th, 2008 11:13:53 PM
What a solid film. I watched it again last night on Blu-Ray (after seeing it thee times in the theatre) and it still had me transfixed. I think Tim Burton is a great director with incredible visual flair, but his take on the material now looks very shallow by comparison.
2nd Thoughts on TDK by romanocc	Dec 14th, 2008 11:28:46 PM
Saw it in the theaters over the summer, and finally saw it again on DVD this weekend. Really solid film, and truimphs anything from this genre, as the story is very compelling, and so is the characters motivations. That's what is missing from the summer shit out there anymore, as most summer movies appeal to the ADD crowd with explosions, CGI, and non stop action. I will say that TDK is trying to tell alot in this movie, and in someways a bit too much, as I understand if the movie loses people in the last half hour. I saw an interview with Nolan how he studied this genre and their sequels and did not want to fall back into the 'usual' sequel, as I think he watched Empire Strikes Back and tried to give the audience something totally different from Batman Begins in terms of story. I am interested to see future summer movies and what way they go: More like TDK that are alittle more adult, alittle more story oriented and the characters drive the movie, or more shit like Indy IV that rely on nostalgia, action, and CGI.
DisneyFanatic's Top Ten List by DisneyFanatic	Dec 14th, 2008 11:33:02 PM
Why would I write this? Not even I care what I think!
to the guys who liked hulk.. by soup74	Dec 14th, 2008 11:39:33 PM
i enjoyed it to, but the end where he had no problem killing things, until the one danger that really should be killed (the abomination.) he all of a sudden decides better of it. seemed like a bad time to go soft.
Re: DisneyFanatic by Clavius	Dec 14th, 2008 11:41:18 PM
I admire your honesty. It's a shame that more of these "top 10" list writers don't think they way you do.
Iron Man was the most fun movie of the year. by Flim Springfield	Dec 14th, 2008 11:41:34 PM
It may not have been the BEST, but being the most fun should count for something. Iron Man is definitely top ten worthy.
Iron Man, really? by Sardonic	Dec 14th, 2008 11:46:03 PM
I mean yeah I liked it, Robert Downey was great and so were the special effects. Plus, it had Jeff Bridges, who I'd watch in anything. Still though, I don't see it as top ten material. Now Tropic Thunder, that's in my top ten.
by the way, flim sprinfield by Sardonic	Dec 14th, 2008 11:51:27 PM
that was aimed at AFI, not you. Though I do agree it was a very fun movie, I just don't see it as top ten material.
Anyone questioning Iron Man, but not Dark Knight is a robot.. by ribbitking	Dec 14th, 2008 11:53:18 PM
Dark Knight? the favorite movie of people without emotions
Oh and besides AFI is a ... by ribbitking	Dec 14th, 2008 11:55:35 PM
freaking joke... those lists are atrocities.
Also, no Zack & Miri Make A Prono? by Amy Chasing	Dec 14th, 2008 11:55:37 PM
Aw, c'mon... everyone on the internet loves pron!
Caveman: I like DK... AFI like DK, i like AFI. wait... AFI like by ribbitking	Dec 15th, 2008 12:01:00 AM

Damn i ruined my ingenious and funny comedic response... by ribbitking	Dec 15th, 2008 12:02:05 AM
Was gonna keep ripping on AFI but screwed it up... i sense conspiracy.
Don't Believe The Hype, Dark Knight Is Horrible!!! by Media Messiah	Dec 15th, 2008 12:16:41 AM
All this time I have been hearing all these great reviews about The Dark Knight and Academy Award talk and how great Heath Ledger was n The Dark Knight, well, it is all a lie--the movie is horrible!!! As far as Christopher Bale and Chris Nolan...both did their jobs in quite the boring manner. When I saw Ledger in "Roar", a tv series that he made his American debut in, I knew this guy was a special actor, but he was misused in Dark Knight...a movie that continues to prove that Warner Brothers still hasn't gotten Batman right onscreen, save for the animated series, 15 years ago. Cadillac Records is the movie to see, and deserves the critics notice and all the many Oscar nods, that Dark Knight does not deserve, but is sure to get, as well as the Oscar for Best Picture itself. The media just used Heath's very sad death to hype this movie. This was not the performance of his career or a lifetime, or anybody else's career or lifetime. Wanted was a better movie by leaps and bounds...and something was even missing there with that film???!!! I just can't believe how all of these movie studios and news media company merges have bred a culture of expected good reviews for the films and other products of the 5 major media/movie companies who's incestuous co-mingling all but guarantees good reviews for most of the pictures the industry wishes to put their full backing behind for both political and finacially born corporate favors!!! Who needs to pay payolla when you already own the movie reviewers and press that will be reviewing your movies???!!!
If you don't like The Dark Knight... by The Dum Guy	Dec 15th, 2008 12:30:33 AM
You have no soul, and most likely, you enjoy punching puppies and kicking kittens on Friday afternoons...
Media Messiah by Amy Chasing	Dec 15th, 2008 12:30:39 AM
try writing all that again without the multiple punctuation. You may even get people to consider your opinion then. Personally I thought that the movie improved every time Ledger was on the screen, so you won't be convincing me today.
Why are TDK haters so fucking loud?? by odo19	Dec 15th, 2008 12:57:08 AM
I personally love the movie, but I don't really care if someone does not. But man these guys are irritating. People might listen if you were not such shrill assholes. Just saying.
From James Cameron, director of ALIENS and T2... by Motoko Kusanagi	Dec 15th, 2008 01:08:26 AM
...comes the next step in total fucking destruction: A V A T A R - Fucking your eyeballs in 2009.
Ultimate Top Ten Of Everything Ever Made by Gym	Dec 15th, 2008 01:18:08 AM
10. Ok Computer 9. The Godfather 2 8. The bit in The Office where he does the dance 7. Dark side of the Moon 6. Citizen Kane 5. The Da Vinci code 4. Gary Shandling 3. Fawlty Towers 2. Christmas 1. Nintendo Wii Its quite Definitive.
Give up pork already! by The Brains	Dec 15th, 2008 01:51:31 AM
Save the little blonde boy Batman!
Still no "The Fall"? by TheHumanBeingAndFish	Dec 15th, 2008 01:58:02 AM
Heartless bitches. "The Fall" = best movie of the year. Oh well.
MOTOKO KUSANAGI... by Shadow Warrior	Dec 15th, 2008 02:12:02 AM
is a pathetic nerd/loser.
Dark Knight and the cell phone sonar gimmick by Chuck_Chuckwalla	Dec 15th, 2008 02:14:54 AM
Love it and it will certainly get Oscar nominations up the ass. My only problem with it was the gimmicky cell phone sonar device that they worked into the plot. The film had established a very real take on Batman's world and then they come out with that little Deus ex machina. I could just imagine some studio suit giving notes to Nolan, "Hey, can you work out some idea to give him radar like a Bat? Because don't Bats have sonar? Gee, I wonder why they never did that in the comics? I'm a fucking genius."
They HAD to announce this.... by HercsShowerRadio	Dec 15th, 2008 02:18:47 AM
ON MY BIRTHDAY?!!
Chuck by Dingbatty	Dec 15th, 2008 02:20:40 AM
It was also a gimmick to get the white eye lenses in the movie.
Good to see that King loves him some Statham by palimpsest	Dec 15th, 2008 02:40:05 AM
Even more respect to the most handsome man in horror...
MOTOKO KUSANAGI by Praetor	Dec 15th, 2008 02:42:52 AM
I'll agree that if anyone is in need of a good skull fucking its you.
My Final Word On The Dark Knight... by kaspianwithak	Dec 15th, 2008 02:44:00 AM
If that means anything. Notice how no other film on the list inspires any debate at all? Nobody cares whether or not any of the other top ten films are on the list. But there is no end to debate about the Dark Knight. That alone has to count for something.
Iron Man? It was kinda fun but not something I need to see agai by Kirbymanly	Dec 15th, 2008 02:46:20 AM
... In other words, no piece of art. In my opinion, Cloverfield rocked Iron Man down to liquid. Why is everyone forgetting how GREAT that film was? On top of that, I wish there was a special category that would allow Let The Right One In (and, yes, I'm aware the same guy who made Cloverfield is making a re-make of said film-- which I think is a travesty).
Don't pick on Motoko Kusanagi... by kaspianwithak	Dec 15th, 2008 02:46:38 AM
Like MCMXLVII he keeps coming back, reminding us of one thing we must not forget, but is also something we never would forget in the first place (michael bay is like cancer for movies/avatar cometh!). So here's to you guys who tell us something we already knew, on every single message board.
Cell Phone gimmick... by kaspianwithak	Dec 15th, 2008 02:51:57 AM
I know I said it was the last word, but here's my two cents on the cell phone bat virus. I thought it heightened the tension of the final sequence, plus I never saw it coming. And it also gave a conceivable way for the near invincible Batman to lose the upper hand in a stand up fight with a street punk like the Joker. And seriously, how else was he ever going to defeat the devil incarnate, but to become god? And maybe I'm not the most intellectual movie viewer, but I was sufficiently engrossed that when Morgan Freeman threatened to quit I thought it made it all the more intriguing.
"The Dark Knight" is a masterpiece. by Evangelion217	Dec 15th, 2008 02:55:55 AM
It is an unquestionable fact now! :)
I'm with Dingbatty by odo19	Dec 15th, 2008 03:05:53 AM
I think the whole sonar thing was mainly to give Batman his white eyes from the comic books/animated series. As a Batman fan for many years I forgot to breath when I saw that, lol. I've been waiting for that for a long time.
The Dark Knight by Fortunesfool	Dec 15th, 2008 03:42:03 AM
So The Joker was taken into the interrogation room, left to sit for a bit and didn't notice Batman standing at the back of the room? At all? Or hear him breathing? or his suit creaking? Why did Batman leave everyone at the party to get terrorised by the Joker and his Goons after he saves Rachel? Why did every set piece have to be a huge moral dilemma? Why did anyone think Bale's Batman voice was anything but utterly hilarious. Answers on a postcard to 'Dont really care. Over-rated road, My arse.
IRON MAN madness by Mr Gorilla	Dec 15th, 2008 04:09:58 AM
Robert Downey Jr was great, but come on, IRON MAN didn't really push the genre on or try anything new. Think about how AMBITIOUS the best superhero flicks are: TDK, Spiderman 2, Ang Lee's Hulk, X2 - - they all aimed to give us something other superhero films hadn't. Interestingly, all but one of these were sequels to much less ambitious predecessors. So - - theory coming up: : :
Superhero Sequels are Better - THEORY by Mr Gorilla	Dec 15th, 2008 04:12:31 AM
So the theory is that while origin films are all very well, it's the superhero SEQUELS, by and large, which are totally ace. X2, Spider-Man 2 and The Dark Knight were ALL better than their very respectable but very slightly rote predecessors. Which means, if this is a law of superhero movies, that Iron Man 2 should be something to look forward to. Sadly, sequels to sequels - Spider-Man 3, X3 - seem to suck donkey balls.
Dark Knight: Not A Masterpiece!!! by Media Messiah	Dec 15th, 2008 04:50:27 AM
I have now seen three Chris Nolan films, two of which are Batman films, and the other, The Prestige...and despite all the hype, this guy is not a good filmmaker, on the contrary, he appears to be a very good technician--moreso, a director of photography type, no a true film director or even writer for that matter. No, when it comes to delivering substance, or thrilling people...or knowing how to play with an audiences' emotions, he doesn't have it. Dark Knight was sterile, dour, humorless, dispiriting, and emotionally devoid. I have seen newscasts and documentaries that are more exciting!!! Further, the story said nothing, the Joker was just some two bit idiot that was given Chnes Box schemes for the purpose of what??? Again, nothing, just to do it? Any of those mobsters and Batman could have, and should have taken him out the moment he went on a killing spree. If the filmmakers wanted to make a statement, the statement should have been that sometimes, even if you don't wish to kill, there is a difference between killing and murder. Delivering a mercy killing upon the Joker would have saved many lives, but Batman did nothing to proactively take that action. He even had a chance to kick him as he raced toward the Joker on the Bat Pod (motorcycle), instead, he raced around him and crashed allowing the vllain a chance to kill him? The Joker didn't murder Rachael, Batman/Bruce Wayne did, by not standing up and killing the Joker when he had the chance...and that is what the movie should have been about...is it moral to kill??? Is there a time when you just have to kill, and is there a difference between murder, and the act of killing? The film should have been about Bruce Wayne dealing with the consequences of having failed to take a life in order to save lives, and looking at himself as being a mass murderer by default due to his failing to kill the Joker...that movie, the one that was never made, might have been a masterpiece...but that film was never made--instead we were delivered a PC/A-Sexual, and emotionless film that lacked intelligence--no, we just got a series of lengthy...self important gimmick filled, and strangely boring action sequences...strung together with verbose and equally lengthy scenes of still and quiet, all meant to convey a sense of the cerebral, but added up to nothing??? King Chris Nolan has no clothes, and I just think it interesting that I am the only one with the courage and the guts here to say and think for myself by daring to speak the truth!!! The Dark Knight is not a good film and is dearly lacking in all relevant categories!!!
That's "Chinese Box" Schemes by Media Messiah	Dec 15th, 2008 04:52:07 AM

Bacci40: Cadillac Records--You Are Right!!! by Media Messiah	Dec 15th, 2008 05:05:07 AM
As I left the theatre, my brother told me that the guy who founded the company died months later and not in his car. I said to him and my Mom...that they should not have changed it for dramatic license as it was not needed, the truth is all that mattered. I heard nothing about all of the other histories of the other artist and the facts behind them...but, the film was dramatically well executed and brilliant. I don't like when any filmmaker plays with the truth of historical events, from Spike Lee to Ron Howard, I think it ultimately taints their films when it is so easy to just tell the truth. Again, that said, as a fiction, Cadillac Records is a damn good film, and maybe by altering events, they did cost themselves an Oscar, but didn't we also see that with Hollywood Land and Many other films that we can name including (Malcolm) X, Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story, A Beautiful Mind, and the Mini series Roots, etc., etc., etc.???!!!
TDK by Holy Hell	Dec 15th, 2008 05:31:07 AM
Was pretty cool, nicely wallows in the moral ambiguity that anyone with a high school diploma must insist they "get" lest they are painted as dweeby homosexual momma's boys and/or fundamentalist Christian fanatics, and had some cool action sequences. Heath Ledger was terrific. The film is kinda like Bush on 9/12/01- it's just the right character for the time. It might not be nearly as smart as it thinks, history might judge it a bit more realistically than the instant euphoria, but there's no escaping it. Iron Man was may less self important, but much more enjoyable.
Sometimes people go to see a movie again and again and again, be by Pagliacci	Dec 15th, 2008 05:31:13 AM
I am so god damn sick of these quirky independent or foreign films being instant masterpieces. "Oh look, she's looking at the photo of her dead ferret and it represents her alchoholism!" "This film has Judi Dench in it and she's a real knight, so it must be good!" You know, the American people are not stupid. If they make a film the second highest grossing of its kind, of all time, there's probably a reason: it's good. Really really good. And I'm not just talking Heath Ledger. Aaron Eckhart and Gary Oldman should be given nominations as well for acting, the plot is top-notch, the visuals and audio are spectacular and the direction is the pinnacle of movie direction this year. So do me a favor, shove In Bruges, Doubt, Synedoche, New York, and Slumdog Millionaire up your ass. You know why these films don't get wide release? You know why people don't see these movies? It's because they're boring. They're not worth our time. Seeing Heath Ledger's final performance as the ultimate madman, shoving a gangster's face into a pencil? That's worth seeing. Several times.
I really like IRON MAN, but... by unionJACKass.webs.com	Dec 15th, 2008 05:49:12 AM
... I do think it's a tad overrated. Mind you, if KNOCKED UP can get in the AFI Top Ten Of The Year 2007 (which, was a better year for film, then IRON MAN certainly should. A year has passed but that still puzzles me!?
For the last two years I've done a top 25 of the year list, but. by unionJACKass.webs.com	Dec 15th, 2008 06:03:31 AM
... this year I struggle to make a top 20. Bare in mind I've yet to see WALL*E; THE WRESTLER; BENJAMIN BUTTON; MILK; W; BODY OF LIES; [REC]; SYNECDOCHE, NEW TORK; SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE, GRAN TORINO, CHANGELING and a few other crtitically lauded films, but this is my top 5 of the year in no particular order: THE DARK KNIGHT IN BRUGES THE RUINS SPEED RACER HELLBOY 2
The Flame & The Lemon / Let the Right One In by palewook	Dec 15th, 2008 06:05:37 AM
any list of top movies from 2008 without these 2 films included among the films, is just pointless and misguided
THIS should have made the list by The Atomic Worm	Dec 15th, 2008 06:22:32 AM
And I don't care how old it is. There can be no statute of limitations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =KOpsbAUEe90
Media Messiah, by Colonel_Blimp	Dec 15th, 2008 06:26:30 AM
that was hilarious.
Kaspian, by funwithwords	Dec 15th, 2008 07:06:32 AM
Without making any value judgements on TDK (I think I've said enough on the topic in the TB over the weekend), I'm not sure the debate by itself counts for much of anything. You have to consider the source and venue of the debate. You're at a fan site, a niche fan site at that. TDK was easily the most anticipated movie in a year of anticipated movies. It was a huge BO success, which is all well and good. And a ton of people reacted quite positively to it. A bunch of others, though clearly in the minority, had higher expectations, and for them, the movie was a major let down, and since it's a scientific fact that the feeling of experiencing loss is twice as potent as that of winning (I think I got that from Radiolab), it makes sense that they would feel the need to make their reactions known. Especially now that the film being promoted all over the place again, and that scab is being ripped off. At any rate, all this debate counts for is a bunch of nerds split not quite down the middle on a movie all of them expected to be great.
Pagliacci by drompter	Dec 15th, 2008 07:21:42 AM
You agree with me then that Star Wars prequels were solid entertainment?
Just saying... by rutgersjaffo	Dec 15th, 2008 08:01:02 AM
Look, I know I will catch heat for this, but here goes anyway...Sure, I enjoyed The Dark Night, and yes Heath Ledger gave an amazing performance, but to say it was one of the ten best films of the year is just silly. At the end of the day, it's a story about a rich guy in a rubber suit who rides a 'Batcycle.' Seriously, let that sink in for a second...the AFI just said that a movie about a guy riding a 'Batcycle' to fight a green-haired criminal who somehow manages to hire literally hundreds of highly-trained goons to carry out a ridiculously elaborate plot to accomplish...nothing...is one of the ten best pieces of cinema to grace theater screens this year. Really? I mean, seriously? Go ahead and nominate Ledger, the man deserves it. But I defy you to watch Dark Night again and not just laugh your ass off every time Bale uses that ridiculous growl. And believe me, the silliness of the entire 'plan' of the Joker and the events that lead to the 'birth' of Two-face really start to stick out upon repeated viewings. Again, sure, I enjoyed the movie and Ledger gives a performance that will always be the gold standard for The Joker, but were there actually not 10 other films released this year that were better than The Dark Night?! Come on, already...And yes, the same goes for Iron Man. Sorry, but 'Guy in Rubber (or metal) Suit' + 'Super Villain' = 'Popcorn Cinema'...NOT ''One of the 10 Best Pieces of Cinema to Appear on Screen This Year.' Just my opinion...
Sorry but people who believe award movies are boring... by spectrebeeyatch	Dec 15th, 2008 08:09:18 AM
Work at Walmart. Doubt and Milk were fantastic movies as was TDK. You have to expand your taste in movies I know Doubt doesn't have shit exploding but give it a chance. Oh and those of you nit picking away at TDK, you're pretty pathetic, it reeks of desperation. You are trying to hard to belittle a movie many people love, the problem is no one agrees with you. So take your bitterness and fuck off please.
Pagliacci by funwithwords	Dec 15th, 2008 08:11:10 AM
I'm going to take your last post at face value, so forgive me if I am missing a note of sarcasm. I suppose there is precident for incredibly high grossing films to win all sorts of awards. The most recent being Titanic, but it goes back to ACTUAL classics/masterpieces of the era before blockbusters. Personally, I think people who liked TDK are on better footing when they leave their comparisons to genre pieces--for all of the talk about Heat and real world crime dramas, the film works best as a genre picture, and that genre is superhero. All of this hyperbole surrounding the movie gets a bit hard for some of us who were a little more critical of the film than you to swallow. I'm not saying that Oldman or Eckhart were not perfectly fine in the movie, but to suggest their performances were among the best of the year? That just stinks to me of the lowered expectations you must have had for the movie going in. I mean, I know how happy we are to be rid of Schumacher and even Burton, but I am beginning to get the feeling that people are handicapping the Nolan and Co. scorecard based on the state of the franchize when they took over. And while that's an understandable reaction, let's not lose our heads.
Did anyone see Towelhead? by DanielKurland	Dec 15th, 2008 08:13:44 AM
I saw it at TIF two years ago, and it was probably my favorite film. It was playing at a theatre here for literally one week, and then was moved. This movie is so, so good, but it's not even getting the chance to be seen. Did anyone else manage to catch it, and if so, enjoy it? Also, glad as hell to see Fincher getting loads of respect now after Zodiac was mysteriously snubbed.
Iron Man was infinitely better than The Dark Knight by LaneMyersClassic	Dec 15th, 2008 08:15:50 AM
What an overblown, cliche-ridden bore TDK was!
They like Iron Man because by Omegaman	Dec 15th, 2008 08:26:22 AM
It was about an arms manufacturer/ dealer that had a change of heart and became a bleeding heart liberal..... TDK wimped out on too many scenes, like the one where The Joker has a knife inside that guys mouth. They should have should him slicing the guys cheek from behind (The Joker). I dont see why they couldnt have shown that. As it is, you dont know if it happened or not, its a let down.... I like this list though. Its like King's list. It seems like they picked what they really liked instead of just choosing "artsy films" to try to make them seem smart.
Proof that comics books have grown up by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Dec 15th, 2008 08:30:26 AM
We don't even call them that anymore. They're graphic novels. In Japan everyone reads comics ie manga. It's not juvenile, it is an art form.
Make any gay movie and the PC AFI will by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Dec 15th, 2008 08:31:41 AM
pick it as a top ten. If they did a Matthew Shepherd movie for the big screen, instead of the one that was on TV they would pick it.
" by Mr. Profit	Dec 15th, 2008 08:42:50 AM

"Slumdog Millionaire" is the Best Film of 2008 by Mr. Profit	Dec 15th, 2008 08:48:27 AM
I loved "The Dark Knight" despite the little things you notice on repeat viewings. It's still a great film that should be commended for elevating the genre from the Summer Blockbuster ghettos. That said, I saw "Slumdog Millionaire" and was moved by it. I thought it was a great movie with some really good direction by Boyle. And I'm no Boyle fanboy since I'm one of the few who HATED 28 Days Later for being a boring, wooden, rip off of a movie. This movie though was really worth the hype it's getting. So while a week ago I would have been hoping for a "The Dark Knight" win at Oscar time, now I won't be surprised if "Slumdog Millionaire" was the film that sneaks up on everyone and wins.
Damn You Michael Bay by MCMLXXVI	Dec 15th, 2008 08:51:01 AM
Damn You Michael Bay
Also "Iron Man" is ridiculously overpraised... by Mr. Profit	Dec 15th, 2008 08:56:27 AM
And no I'm not a bitter DC comic STAN... I grew up loving Marvel more. I went in seeing "Iron Man" with the hopes that it wasn't crap. And while it was a good movie, best comic movie EVER? No. Not by a mile. It's a good movie that is overrated by the really good performance of Downey. Aside from that it's a by the numbers comic movie with indistinct direction by Favreau. Anyone could have made what he made. Berg's "Hancock" looked exactly the same visually. And "Iron Man" also has weak villains. The final battle in the film was big budget remake of the "Robocop 2" finale. And I laughed at how we sat through Downey learning how to use the Iron Man suit for the majority of the film, while Bridges learns to use his in about 10 minutes. So I don't see why it's there. But hey, to each his own. Maybe I'm missing something.
The opening 'Hound Dog' sequence of Crystal Skull by kwisatzhaderach	Dec 15th, 2008 09:36:39 AM
was better than all of Iron Man.
Why is AICN not reporting this? by Franklin T Marmoset	Dec 15th, 2008 09:36:48 AM
I have it on good authority that the third of these new Batman films - working title, Batman: The Rise Of Robin - is to be directed by Bret Ratner. Does anyone know anything about this?
Maggie was incredibly annoying in TDK (spoiler) by kwisatzhaderach	Dec 15th, 2008 09:40:53 AM
Probably just as much as Katie in Batman Begins.I felt nothing when her character died.
I heard that too Frankie....not sure how true it is by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 09:43:06 AM
I also heard it will be a prequel, which makes no sense.
My cousin works at Warner Brothers by Franklin T Marmoset	Dec 15th, 2008 09:47:08 AM
Apparently, Nolan was not happy with the studio's insistance on including Robin in the third and final film of the trilogy, and he just up and quit. There was a huge row and everything. Obviously, given how successful X-Men 3 was, Warners have offered the directing job to Ratner. It's a good choice, I reckon, since he'll be able to copy Nolan's style so well. I wonder who he'll cast as Robin, though? It seems like the role Shia was born to play.
well, he knows how to direct action by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 09:49:33 AM
with the brilliant Rush Hour films, so I would have high hopes to see Shia in action alongside Bale. It's too bad the hot Maggie is gone.
Iron Man? by yodalovesyou	Dec 15th, 2008 09:56:56 AM
That film was sooo forgettable. Popcorn movie by the numbers.
No "Doomsday"? Shenanigans! by Jack Burton	Dec 15th, 2008 09:57:23 AM
King picks "Death Race" (probably brilliant in it's Statham-ness) but not "Doomsday"? That movie rocked ass! Entirely derivative but so entertaining I didn't care that it was ripping off 3 movies at the same time in every scene.
PTSDPete: Stephen King and Let The Right One In by Atropos	Dec 15th, 2008 10:00:52 AM
I mentioned this in the original post about this, but anyway: I don't think Stephen King has seen "Let The Right One In" yet, but even if he had, I doubt EW would let him put it in a list. Their reviewer Owen Gleiberman apparently reviewed LTROI without seeing it first, and they've ignored any mention of it since. They've even turned off the automatic update of the Readers Average Score (hovering around A+) as well as the Critics' Average (somewhere around A-, even when factoring in Glieberman's own score of C).
I found this on the Associated Press by Franklin T Marmoset	Dec 15th, 2008 10:05:25 AM
"LOS ANGELES, US (AP) Box office phenomenon The Dark Knight may have triumphed with the fans, but those fans are already up in arms about the latest announcement from Hollywood studio Warner Brothers. Writer/Director Christopher Nolan, the man credited with resurrecting the tired franchise, has chosen not to return for a third instalment of the popular series. Nolan was not available for comment at the time of this article's writing, but a number of sources have confirmed the British director was uneasy with the studio's decision to introduce Batman's sidekick, Robin, in the third film. Rumour has it, Nolan's place in the director's chair will be taken by Brett Ratner, the man who helmed the hugely successful Rush Hour series of films, starring Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker. Ratner declined to comment officially on the rumour, but he was spotted on the Warner backlot carrying a copy of what is believed to be an early script for Batman's next adventure. Reaction to the news has been mixed so far, with some fans pleased with the more colourful, action-packed direction the franchise is likely to take under Ratner; while others have declared today the day The Batman died. "This is the worst day of my life," said one distraught fan. "It's like I've been raped.""
Zed by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:07:35 AM
Ratner will take it in a whole new direction instead of having it bogged down with poorly shot "action" scenes.
and a brilliant day for those of us who love FF by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:11:12 AM
Time for the way comic book movies should be made. Not all dark and gloomy like TDK or that stupid Watchmen flick.
Ratner can actually direct more than two people by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:12:08 AM
in an action scene without shoving the camera lens up someones nostrils.
aren't you the guy who likes Heroes anyway? by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:12:45 AM
Talk about fluff...Ratner should be right up your alley. I'm surprised you don't see this.
Mr. Zeddemore by Franklin T Marmoset	Dec 15th, 2008 10:15:16 AM
Clearly, you need to get some sun, fatty. You haven't even seen the film yet, and you're already judging it? What a douche. I say, let's all wait and see what Ratner does with the film. Sure, it could be shit, but - you know what? - it could be great, too. Stop the hating and wait for the film before you judge it.
but it's all in good fun by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:16:20 AM
which is something Ratner can inject into this dopey franchise. And he knows how to put the comedic touch on an action film. Hello Mr. Tucker and Mr. Chan.
WTF? I don't see Rambo on ANY of these lists... by TylerDurden3395	Dec 15th, 2008 10:16:43 AM

I think the Rat could do Mr. Freeze the way he should by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:19:41 AM
A complete and utter badass. Everyone would quickly forget Arnie's version, which was a pretty good attempt. Maggie would have been perfect for Poison Ivy.
Why does everyone keep telling Mr. Zeddemore... by IAmMrMonkey!	Dec 15th, 2008 10:21:13 AM
"to get some sun, fatty?" Is there a photo of him somewhere that everyone has seen which I've missed? Is he really an obese, pale-skinned man? I need to know!
because he's an irrational Nolan lover by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:23:04 AM
Zed thinks Memento is the shit. Wrong fatty!
he's admitted as much monkeyboy by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:25:36 AM
You're probably a closet-Ratner lover. I bet you have all the Rush hour films and watch them in a continuous loop.
you keep telling yourself that Zed by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:26:36 AM
I hold Chrissy Nolan personally responsible. Can't the douche make a fun film?
Franklin T Marmoset by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 15th, 2008 10:26:54 AM
Where the fuck did you get your information? It has nothing to do with Robin. Ratner has confirmed that the third film will not feature the Robin character. That seems to be the only thing he is doing right-- he said he wants to closely follow the rules (if you can call them that) laid out by Nolan. I think the studio understands at this point the machine is in motion, you can fill the director's seat with virtually anyone and its pretty hard to fuck up. They wanted a 3rd film out quicker than the vague "3 or 4 years" Nolan was talking about. At least his brother is still overseeing the story. I'm confident it will work.
Fuck you, Monkey!! by Franklin T Marmoset	Dec 15th, 2008 10:27:33 AM
Maybe you need some sun, too, you fat fucker.
fucking great...here's come "Danny DickBlood" by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:29:51 AM
When have you ever been fucking right? I'll take Frankie's source over yours. Frankie was the first to divulge Ratner's involvement in X3.
Zed by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:30:32 AM
At least Frankie can ride a horse without breaking its fucking back you pale fatty!
everyone knows I'm no Ratner fan.... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 15th, 2008 10:31:03 AM
...to me he slurps the same testicles as Michael Bay and James Cameron, throw all those fucks in a pizza oven for all I care. But the Ratner hate has gotten a bit annoying as of late. I think in this situation he will do fine. He needs something fed to him. He needs a world to already be established, a cast already locked in. He is a competent director (please see Family Man) as long as he is not jerking off Jackie Chan. But seriously....you know how it could have been worse? Frank Miller could have been hired for this. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA.
I'm no Ratner fan, either by Franklin T Marmoset	Dec 15th, 2008 10:33:18 AM
But I say we should all be grateful they didn't get Bryan fucking Singer for this thing. Do we really need another gay Batman?
jerking off Jackie Chan.... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 15th, 2008 10:33:49 AM
....that could start to smell like old butter.
which Batman was gay? by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 15th, 2008 10:34:22 AM

thats the thing.... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 15th, 2008 10:36:24 AM
...fanboys can cry about Singer fucking up Superman all they want. He left X Men films (established shit) and was replaced by Ratner, and what did the fans do-- they fucking cried. So you cry about Singer leaver, you cry about what he does instead, you cry about Ratner replacing him, you cry about Nolan being overrated, now you cry when he leaves and the go-to man fills in. SHUT THE FUCK UP!! GET A LIFE AND EAT SOME PUSSY!!
that's it fatso, that's your "comeback"? by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:38:13 AM
You're all just fucking jealous of Ratner and his success. Pathetic fanboys.
at least we know Brett Ratner..... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 15th, 2008 10:38:19 AM
...wouldn't make a gay Batman. He would make a short, pudgy, Jew-- Batman living in Miami Beach and sipping champagne as he blasts Jay-Z.
Hey, I love gays as much as the next man by Franklin T Marmoset	Dec 15th, 2008 10:38:37 AM
All I'm saying is, gay Batman has already been done as well as it could be by Joel Schumacher. No one could ever out-gay his Batman films, so why even try. Now, Ratner, he hangs out at Playboy Mansion. If nothing else, we know his Batman will be banging big-tittied blondes like nobodies business. Just like in the comics.
I think this whole TB needs a round of BITCH. by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 15th, 2008 10:39:05 AM

do they have Batman PJ's in "Lardass" size? by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:39:49 AM
Danny: the only pussy you've had is the one typing bullshit by the name of "Mr.Zeddemore".
Franklin, by funwithwords	Dec 15th, 2008 10:40:19 AM
The AP doesn't write in the Queen's English. There is no U in color.
stop eating all the twinkies and you won't be so sick by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:41:11 AM
And Ratner's vision of X-men was much more grandiose than Singer's. The Beast kicked fucking ass! What did Singer do? Nightcrawler? Waste.
Robin, can you hear the words that are comin by Coma Baby	Dec 15th, 2008 10:42:05 AM
out of my mouth? Ugh. I'm not the biggest fan of the Nolan films, but have to admit that they're at least interesting to talk about and the Dark Knight was good. I'd love to see a Batman film by another director, but choosing the director of X3 and the Rush Hours is just so lame. I mean, the franchise basically sells itself, so why not try for a director that has at least some vision or integrity - off the top of my head - Aranofsky, Brad Anderson, David Fincher, Danny Boyle, Ridley Scott? You'd think with the reception that the Dark Knight's been getting, a good director would be thrilled or at least interested in seeing what they can do with Batman. Of course, they may have been scared off by the studio's story input...
Mr.Zeddemore -- THE AMAZING TYPING PUSSY by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 15th, 2008 10:42:09 AM
Imagine that visual! It would look like a massive calamari hammering away at the keys slurping and growling viciously.
by The Brains	Dec 15th, 2008 10:42:22 AM
What in the name of JediFonger is going on in here? I have never heard of such a Christmas! Sex and drugs and and and and women being set on fire!
what are you, the fucking AP police funwithwords? by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:42:23 AM
Get the fuck outta here. Easy there Mr.Fattymore. Calm down or you'll have a stroke.
Coma Baby by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:43:46 AM
All the directors you mentioned are okay I guess, but completely wrong for the Batman franchise. Ratner will inject the necessary fun into this new series of Batman films that have been missing.
Coma Baby by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 15th, 2008 10:45:10 AM
Aronofsky, Fincher, someone like that would have been good...I agree. But I think they would have had to have gone with them from the beginning. The problem is they have too much of a signature style. The last thing this franchise needs is a drastic turn right in the middle (please see Alien franchise). Ratner is a safe choice. He is sort of a short, fatter, hairier version of Ron Howard-- he is competent, but lacks style. Thats exactly what Warner Bros needs. Someone to continue down the same road and keep making them money. Lets face it, it would be pretty hard for Ratner to fuck this up.
Zed by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:45:10 AM
Not difficult at all since I can actually SEE my dick unlike you.
funwithwords by Franklin T Marmoset	Dec 15th, 2008 10:45:28 AM
Smartass.
same 'ol shit from you Mr.Fattymore by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:46:42 AM
Calling Ratner a hack. You wouldn't know what a good movie was if it tapped you on the back since you can't swivel your fat head around to see.
Danny by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:47:55 AM
The first two Nolan Batman films had no style, unless you call shaky cam a "style".
"Iron Man is the best film ever made" by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:49:34 AM
Now I know you are a hopeless fool. The only joke I see is you and your shit opinions on film.
I enjoyed Iron Man....and I like Downey. by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 15th, 2008 10:50:32 AM
But Top 10 of the year?!! Give me a motherfucking break. That is no different than putting Indy IV on that list. Its just a light-hearted commercial, family friendly film with one of the weakest fucking climaxes I've seen in years. Norton's Hulk took a fucking dump on Iron Man's final fight. And that music.....what the fuck? Did they resurrect Layne Staley from the dead, and get Alice In Chains circa 1994 to record the score. Real stylish Favreau, love how you pushed the envelope there.
did you even see X3 Mr.Fattymore? by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:51:03 AM
The fantastic choice of having the final kickass battle suddenly change from day to night? The fucking awesome wire work done where we had hundreds of mutants in action? Where was your action from Singer's first two dopey X-men flicks?
Oh Fuck Ratner by odo19	Dec 15th, 2008 10:53:15 AM
We need the amazing auteur direction that only Chris Columbus can provide.
Coma Baby by Franklin T Marmoset	Dec 15th, 2008 10:53:51 AM
That is not a list of directors fit to make a Batman film, that is a list of bitches you wish would fuck you. None of them has the experience of rounding out a classic trilogy in grand style that Ratner does. The only one on your 'list' who has even done a part three is Fincher, and he pooped out a shiny turd!
do you even read what I post Mr.Fattymore??? by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:54:18 AM
I do NOT like the direction Nolan has taken Batman into, and think Ratner can make it fun. Ya know, like a comic book movie should really be? pwns? What are you, like twelve? Get your fat ass on a treadmill or something.
Riots should happen by Mindchaotica	Dec 15th, 2008 10:54:47 AM
if Dark Knight doesn't get actor, and best pictures nominations. not to mention best Director nomination. Holy Awesomeness, Batman! that was a great movie.
anyone remember UNDEROOS HERO? by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 15th, 2008 10:54:51 AM
For some reason I saved one of his Batman Begins rants from about 10 months ago........pretty fucking funny. Enjoy. --------------------------- -------- " It's nice to know that people out there still have a sense of taste. BATMAN BEGINS WAS ABSOLUTE SHIT!!!!!!!! I have said it, I have explained my reasoning, and I don't give a shit....BB fucking sucked!!! Ordering Bat Masks from China? Stupid. The batmobile hopping roofs? Not to mention the stupid ass design of it!! As Pilgrim stated and I have stated a hundred times. Bales voice is the gay. He is THE worst Batman. The scarecrow? Are you fucking kidding me? The goddamned mob boss looked like low budget 70's tv actor. Batman riding around on a horse commanding bats? Fuck you that sucked!!! Giant cgi water, what the fuck ever manipulator as a WMD? Fuck off!!! Liam Qui Gon Gin side kick in Krull Neeson as that gay ninja Ras?!!! Fuck you again... Damn I could go on and on and on.....Fuck you !!!!! Oldman's character was bland as shit. The girl...what's her fuck...she was worthless and had no point. Bale running off to some mountain top with a flower and becoming a ninja after only four days of watching a Billy Banks Tai Bo video. Then kicking all four of the Ninja Turtles asses only to fall off of Mount Fuji and land at the bottom with Austion Powers dad waiting on him in a suit. Morgan Freeman gives Bat Bale the whole Batsuit and Fagmobile and doesn't notice a thing when Batman is in this thing double duching across roofs. damn I can keep going. Bat Bale gets all drunk and like a deadbeat son burns his parents mansion down leaving himself and Nigel Powers homeless. The scarecrow come along with a fucking potato sack over his head and blows some goddamn shroom dust in this bad 70's tv show actors face then the bad actor has a real bad acting spell and gets put in some retirement home for bad actors with the ScareNope following right behind him after Bat Bale reverses (that clever Nigel Powers) the effects of the dust shrooms back on to ScareNope. Then Bat Bale runs around looking for that useless whore bag he shacked up with only to discover that the main plot of the movie involves some huge laser water hose that Qui Gon is using to water the scarecrows shrooms. Then Bat Bale hitches a ride on the train because the budget was running out towards the end for the movie so they had to wrap things up real quick. Only to find Qui Gon talking to Darth Maul and plotting the destruction of City Bank and Starbucks. Bat Bale really likes Starbucks and is pissd that he and Nigel Powers are homeless so he fights the Jedi and leaves him to die on the train as it careens down a set of poorly built tracks that Bat Bales father designed and crashes into a bank of America killing the last jedi. I'm not kidding...BATMAN BEGINS has the suck of American Idol!! Vicks Vapor Rub Humidifying Machine was the absolute suck. I got tourettes all of a sudden and I was like..."What the goddamned hell is this fucking shit?" Fuck!! Ass!!! BOB SAGGETT!!! This last Batman movie should have been called....Batman Ends. Let's please put these terrible movies to rest. I go to a movie for escapeism. That is why we read comics and books and see movies. To be taken somewhere else. I'm not going to see a Batman flick so that I can be sucked into some modern day cop reality story with some costumed Dagonconer running around in front of a Starbucks. That kind of shit pulls me right out of the movie and is fucking depressing. It's like being real high with your friends in a dark house at three o'clock in the morning playing some good music and someone flips the fucking light on and yells out what time it is. You come crashing down and you want to kick the dudes ass for being like Christopher Nolan...a fucking asshole!! FUCK YOU!! "
odo19 by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:54:59 AM
You're not funny.
Mindchaotica by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:56:07 AM
By awesome you mean a too serious movie for a comic book, and one that had plot holes you can fit Mr.Fattymore through? You mean that Batman movie?
you should go play in traffic Mr.Twinkie by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 10:57:03 AM

Zeddemore by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 15th, 2008 10:59:27 AM
How many times do I have to fucking say it?!! Ratner doesn't have a style of his own. Ever wonder why he is attached to so many fucking properties? Thats why! Because he is a safe pick. He doesn't give a fuck about movies, he gives a fuck about bitches and coke-- thats it. So he wants to do the least amount of work he can get away with. He's not here to reinvent the wheel. He's just taking a massive fucking payday, a little directing, have this bitch stand here, this bitch here. Christian....try not to lisp.....ACTION....and CUT!! Hand over all action shit to 2nd unit director. He's out in 4 months, BRAVO!! He has a masterpiece on his hands. Its simple. Ratner is a puppet. The machine is already set in place. He just needs to stand there (on a step stool) and receive oral from a Moroccan P.A.
Bales voice is the gay. by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 15th, 2008 11:00:42 AM
Best line Underoos ever typed.
Franklin, Dickblood. by Coma Baby	Dec 15th, 2008 11:08:19 AM
Franklin, I have no idea what you're talking about - what the fuck is a trilogy rounder? Who are these trilogy rounders? Give us your manifesto of trilogy rounding. I just want someone to make a good film. Those guys, (imho) have delivered. Yeah, Fincher pooped out a not so great one early on in his career, but mostly his movies are good. Dickblood - I get what you're saying. You're thinking how the movies flow and an overal arc over a bunch of movies. I guess I'm more interested in how a movie stands on it's own. I want to get out of a film and say, "God Damn", not, "Well, that was good enough" I still haven't seen a good Ratner movie. I basically look at what Ratner's done and I could take or leave Rush Hour or X3. They're not offensively bad, just mediocre.
I really like your post. by The Brains	Dec 15th, 2008 11:10:35 AM

Coma Baby by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 15th, 2008 11:14:28 AM
Have you seen Family Man? its an actual good film. Not just mediocre, IMO its great family drama. And its surprisingly touching. It amazed me a guy seems to know a little about family after spending six months straight with his middler finger up the arse-hole of a Portuguese whore. Anyway.....my whole point is, people are getting all fucking freaked out over the announcement of Ratner and I'm trying to explain why it makes sense. I get what you're saying...it would be nice to have a film that is equally good as a standalone film, but thats like catching lightning in a bottle, or as Ratner says "Bugs on ma' dick."
ALien 3 pwns TDK by Lost Jarv	Dec 15th, 2008 11:17:55 AM
Nolan isn't fit to rimjaw sigourney's old ass.
Dick Blood Family Man by Coma Baby	Dec 15th, 2008 11:37:06 AM
actually sounds kind of interesting. Maybe not all that surprising that Ratner could pull it off, families being like assholes.
its a well crafted film..... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 15th, 2008 11:41:18 AM
...and touching as hell. One of Cage's best in recent years as well. I almost don't believe Ratner's fat little hands had anything to do with it.
Not getting the love of Tropic Thunder by rogueleader66	Dec 15th, 2008 12:11:17 PM
It was a good movie, but I was expecting way more laughs than I got, it was almost two different movies, sometimes it was a comedy, sometimes it was an action movie, the action was pretty good, and the comedy was ok, Downey was the best thing in the movie, Stiller's character was not all that interesting which was a major disappointment seeing as it was his movie. I am sure i will get flamed for this, but I found "Get Smart" to be a much better blend of action and comedy and an overall more enjoyable film, they mixed both the action and comedy together, whereas Thunder, IMO, totally separated them. I liked Thunder and will probably watch it again, but at first viewing I was not loving it like I thought I would.
Sheild final ep > Wire final ep by Cameron1	Dec 15th, 2008 12:25:20 PM
The Wire was better overall but holy fuck the last episode of The Shield is DEVASTATING for the viewer and for Mackey. And Shane's note - I cried. Walton Goggins needs Golden Globe and an Emmy right the fuck now.
STOP PRAISING BENJAMIN BUTTHOLE!!! by J-Dizzle	Dec 15th, 2008 01:04:08 PM
That movie sucked donkey nads!
Family Man by erichaislar	Dec 15th, 2008 01:19:57 PM
I am with Dickblood on this. It is a really good film.
God, how sick would it be if Nolan directed an ALIEN sequel? by mefrog	Dec 15th, 2008 01:41:42 PM
Like...a real Alien sequel? Ignore the canon of 3 and 4, and pick up from 2.
mefrog by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Dec 15th, 2008 01:56:06 PM
Thats the dumbest fucking idea I've ever heard. Nolan doesn't have the eye for design that an alien film requires. I don't think he could handle creature work. His style just feels too flat. I think he and his brother might be able to write it, but not direct.
CONGRATULATIONS CHRIS NOLAN by BringingSexyBack	Dec 15th, 2008 02:11:34 PM
Well deserved. But next Batman movie watch out for logic and continuity problems.
AND DROP THE STUPID BATVOICE by BringingSexyBack	Dec 15th, 2008 02:12:09 PM
Please!!!
Pillow by funwithwords	Dec 15th, 2008 02:18:02 PM
I thought it was a cute way to call BS on Franklin's bogus AP story. I was making a point that if it had been an AP story, it wouldn't have used the British / Canadian / Australian / Kiwi / non-American spelling of the word colorful. I'm sorry if it somehow offended you.
Frankie's feelings are easily hurt by just pillow talk	Dec 15th, 2008 02:45:40 PM
Just be more mindful next time.
Dark Knight DVD has crap extras by Mockingbuddha	Dec 15th, 2008 03:13:09 PM
The second disc is mostly taken up by a digital copy and a long feature that shows you the IMAX scenes, but guess what, it doesn't make my fuckin tv grow!!! It's a bunch of scenes I just watched with a slightly different shaped frame. If I'm gonna pay an extra four bucks I want some making of behind the scenes stuff, two or three hours worth. I was very disappointed. Maybe all the good features are only for Boo-Ray now. And I know those bastards are gonna have a re-release with more features someday to try to take more food out of my kids mouths. Still a good movie, but Warner Brothers execs all have rotten fish-heads for hearts.
Has anyone seen My Name Is Bruce? by Amy Chasing	Dec 15th, 2008 03:38:30 PM
Does what Tropic Thunder does (spoof the film industry) only with more jokes and consistency. I thought it stuck to its genre better than TT and was more entertaining because of it. As for that post above about Ratner directing the next Batman film, I would think the line at the end: said one distraught fan "It's like I've been raped.", would give away that this is just a bad joke (at least it's not their "childhood"). Either that, or Moriarty is gonna go whack somebody.
Franklin T Marmoset - I'm a black anorexic * by IAmMrMonkey!	Dec 15th, 2008 04:20:17 PM
So take back your comment that I need some sun and that I'm a fatty. * And you can't prove otherwise. Ha!
why the fuck doesnt aicn have its readership top 10 by Mr_X	Dec 15th, 2008 04:21:22 PM
like i suggested last year. get some properly coded forms and get it done so we can all vote
The Wrestler - Best Movie of the Year by Itchy	Dec 15th, 2008 05:13:03 PM
on the strength of Maris Tomei's ageless, wonderful tits alone.
Just saw SLUMDOG on Saturday. by Lenny Nero	Dec 15th, 2008 06:35:05 PM
If it gets nominated for Best Picture and Dark Knight does not, I'm definitely pulling for Slumdog. It's just breathtaking.
Top Ten Films of 2008 by Karuma	Dec 15th, 2008 06:37:17 PM
Film Critics are notoriously bad at what they do. They see so many films that they are jaded before the first bite of popcorn and very rarely pick a cognizant top ten or they pick films either only a handful of people have seen or will see by the first few months of the next year. Instead, out of all the movies screened this year, there are only a handful that they think merit a place in the top ten, and, being the creatures that they are, critics usually pick from a list of about 20. However, most often they are wrong. Was "No Country for Old Men" really the best film of 2007? Hardly. Yes, it won, but that's because Hollywood is pretentious and they love to wallow in it, which is why they do what they do. "300" was a better movie, as was "Juno", "American Gangster", and "Zodiac". As for this year, the Oscar list being bandied about leaves off the best films of the year, including but not limited to "Dark Knight", "Wall-E", "Ironman" and "Cloverfield", all of which should merit recognition.
Lanny Nero - Seen any other Bollywood films? by Admiral Nelson	Dec 15th, 2008 08:05:20 PM
Please check out my post about Slumdog in the AICN "Stephen King" thread. It's not that Slumdog is a bad movie, but the only thing breathtaking about it (IMO) is how amazingly unoriginal it is if you've seen any (random) dozen Bollywood films. As near as I can tell, all the critics who are praising this film have never seen another Bollywood movie, or they'd recognize that this film, although well-made, isn't unique in the slightest. The movie wants to be both a gritty drama and a Bollywood romantic-destiny fable, and it succeeds at neither -- it's an attempted Bollywood film with 95 percent of the genre's hope and spirit bled out of it. I don't think it's a complete failure, but it's nowhere near the critical darling that people are making it out to be.
Oops - "Lenny" not "Lanny" by Admiral Nelson	Dec 15th, 2008 08:11:16 PM
If you liked Slumdog Millionaire, then try to rent DVDs for the Indian films Taal, Devdas, Sholay, Lagaan and Dil Chahta Hai -- all great films.
TOP TEN OF THE YEAR (& I've actually seen all of these) by FuckMichaelBay	Dec 15th, 2008 08:24:48 PM
1) THE CURIOUS CASE OF BENJAMIN BUTTON - One word: EPIC! 2) MILK - Sean Penn rules! Hats off to Franco. 3) THE WRESTLER - Rourke + Aronofsky = Depressing Awesomeness. 4)FROST/NIXON - Opie Cunningham unexpectedly delivers the goods. 5) SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE - AMITABH BACHCHAN! 6) WALTZ WITH BASHIR - WAKING LIFE was drec! 7) THE DARK KNIGHT - Fuck the haters! 8) CHE - Del Toro, Soderbergh, Spanish & my heart. 9) WALL-E - Love the movie; love the message. 10) THE READER - Naked Kate Winslet with a German accent. Yum!
The shit people pick on with Iron Man and TDK... by quantize	Dec 15th, 2008 11:13:49 PM
here in this TB is mindbogglingly pissy and moronic..you sound like sad mutherfuckers. Listen, i thought the Prestige was wank..Batman Begins was boring and muddled, but you simply have your head firmly stuck in your sphincter if you failed to be entertained by either Iron Man or TDK...nobody gives a flying fuck in hell if Downey took most of the film to learn his suit and Bridges took 10, nobody gives a flying fuck if Bale sounded a bit silly doing the raspy voice...both movies fucking DELIVERED..and I was amongst the many who was ready to hate them. If the shit people nitpick like fucking micro dicked losers at a fan convention/online forum is the best they can complain against those two movies then thank fuck the rest of us they entertained the rest of us because then we at least know they MUST be good.
Admiral, I live in a very multicultural region... by Lenny Nero	Dec 16th, 2008 12:21:40 AM
...that also happens to have a theatre that runs strictly Bollywood films, so I am quite well-versed in its world. (For a white guy, that is.) I see very few similarities between SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE and what it was trying to accomplish and actual, true Bollywood, as I feel it's simply a Dickensian fable set in India more than the tried-and-true formulas of that country's major film system. I appreciate its effort to be more than one type of movie, however, and I feel it succeeds at doing everything in its power. But same for the (admittedly) a bit lackluster credit sequence, I honestly see this more as a Danny Boyle film than what you may have seen inside it. And forgive me for my belief in this, but I don't simply judge a movie and its enjoyment on how original or unoriginal it is. What SLUMDOG did, for me, was take its story (blame that on the book more than the movies influences, whatever they may be) and its various components, both original and unoriginal, and did them well. That's what I ask for in a movie, because lord knows I've seen far too many art house movies try for something original and just fail miserably. (coughlarsvontriercough)
And Adm. Nelson... by Lenny Nero	Dec 16th, 2008 12:22:39 AM
...I have seen all the films on your list, some more than once.
A belated apology by Franklin T Marmoset	Dec 16th, 2008 03:43:02 AM
To anyone who I insulted - especially Monkey and Coma Baby - in my zeal to create a fake story about Brett Ratner directing Batman 3. All that fuss and it didn't even work. No apologies to funwithwords, who is still a smartass.
DEATH RACE??? WTF?? by couP	Dec 16th, 2008 05:16:24 AM
just kills any cred that last list has
I loved this year in movies by Sparhawk38	Dec 16th, 2008 07:24:34 AM
It was a great year. Iron Man...great....Hellboy 2.....great.....TDK...fantasti c.....Wall E....great Now...watchmenwatchmenwatchmen watchmen
Franklin by Coma Baby	Dec 16th, 2008 09:55:16 AM
No worries - it's all just internet to me.
Top 10 lists are like a Box of Chocolats.... by Blitz	Dec 16th, 2008 01:25:21 PM
They have crazy insides that you can tongue out.
Lenny -- Excellent post re: Slumdog by Admiral Nelson	Dec 16th, 2008 03:37:35 PM
I'm glad you've seen those other Bollywood films (you wouldn't live in Northern California, by any chance? My wife and I used to see Bollywood movies at the Naz 8 cinemas in Fremont -- when we saw Lagaan, we were literally the only non-Indians in the theater.) Anyway, my wife and I enjoyed Slumdog as we were watching it -- we felt that it started out well, but then it slowly (and steadily) went downhill from there. As I mentioned, I think the film is a hybrid of a gritty street drama and a formulaic Bollywood romantic fantasy, but the "merging" just didn't work for us. Your mileage may vary, of course.
Good catch on location, Adm. Nelson. by Lenny Nero	Dec 16th, 2008 05:58:13 PM
I am Northern California based, but there are also two theatres (one that is exclusively Indian cinema, one that just dedicates sections of its year to it), plus dozens of art house cinemas that might show a big one every now and then, that are far closer to me.
The Bank Job is 100X more entertaining than In Bruges by BackRiverCatfish	Dec 16th, 2008 06:20:51 PM
and it isn't American!
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