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I predict 2019 - TRC - The Remake Channel
by FilmCritic3000
Dec 4th, 2008
12:53:46 AM
All remakes. All The Time. It will happen. Mark my words.
Oh FFS, they're remaking The Thing?
by Frisco
Dec 4th, 2008
01:02:34 AM
Having that guy that nobody outside the UK cares about star in Arthur... whatever. The kid who got bit by Charley would do just as well in that role, I'm sure. But remaking The Fing?!?! Who are they going to have, Jake Gyllenhaal as MacReady, Luda as Childs, and Jack Black as Blair? blarg
sacrilege!
by deanbarry
Dec 4th, 2008
01:05:04 AM
The Thing!!?!?! NO!
Is it really that hard
by red_weed
Dec 4th, 2008
01:05:46 AM
to come up with something new? Or is that just too big of a risk for studios in the current economic market? jeez. Well I guess if they are done well we shouldn't complain. Although if they don't start making original movies again, they'll have nothing to remake in 2030...
*shakes head*
by critch
Dec 4th, 2008
01:06:35 AM
NO MORE REMAKES!
good god please no...
by dr_john_zoidberg
Dec 4th, 2008
01:07:33 AM
Is this all seriously happening? All 3 of these movies have been released in my lifetime. I LOVE The Thing, a remake pisses me off. They Live is, again, a great, intentional B=Movie, that loses it's charm with any kind of remake. Romancing the Stone was good 80's fun in an Indiana Jones for women kind of way, again, why remake it?? But ARTHUR?? Just because Dudkey Moore is dead doesn't mean it's open season on that character. I'll die before I see any of these movies!! BOYCOTT
The Thing
by Massawyrm 1
Dec 4th, 2008
01:10:28 AM
This may not be accurate up to date information, but last I heard the Thing "remake" wasn't so much a remake as they decided they were gonna tell the story of the Norwegians from the beginning of The Thing - which personally sounds awesome. But that's been in the works for a WHILE. Someone correct me if this information has changed.
ah FUCK!!!!!!!!!! Fuck Hollywood!
by the milf lover
Dec 4th, 2008
01:10:56 AM
fuck them and their constant remakes! Goddammit! The original The Day The Earth Stood Still was from the 50s, so good or bad, remaking it and adapting it to our modern era is kind of understandable! But They Live? Come on! Roddy Piper and Keith David are almost still young enough to star in that remake! Who they gonna get, John Cena and XZibit?
The Thing already is a remake
by TheMcflyFarm
Dec 4th, 2008
01:12:06 AM
technically. Oh and I'm all for sequels. Make twenty more Die Hards and Lethal Weapons and Indiana Joneses etc, but this remake shit has got to stop.
FUCK THIS: For the Following Reasons:
by DOGSOUP
Dec 4th, 2008
01:17:06 AM
1. Russel Brand is a talentless douche. 2. Kathleen Turner and Michael Douglas MADE that movie. 3. Rowdy Roddy Piper MADE that movie. 4. STOP FUCKING REMAKING MOVIES AND DO WHAT THEY DID WITH THESE MOVIES AND MAKE SOMETHING FUCKING ORIGINAL!!! FUUUUUCK! STOP IT! FUCKING STOP IT!! Will they even be able to MAKE movies in 2020?!?!?1 WHAT THE JESUS TITTY FUCK?!?!?!
And Soylent Green?...
by eustisclay
Dec 4th, 2008
01:22:34 AM
is being redone by the same guy doing they live. What's the point? The first one was okay, a product of it's time, the best part was the twist ending which has been spoofed on SNL. Oh, and red_weed, by 2030 they'll just start all over again. This remake shit is geting ridiculous. It's one thing to remake a film that was unsuccessful the first time(Man on Fire was a pretty lame 80s film that was actually improved in the Denzel remake) and sure there are occassional good onesof classics(like Carpenter'sThe Thing) but I think to remake something you should have someone who has a real passion for the material(again The Thing) and not just be a studio deal(The Stepfather remake which really sounds horrible, the stepdaughter has been turned into a dude, don't wanna see that shower scene).
Romancing the fucking Stone?
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Dec 4th, 2008
01:23:29 AM
Fuck me, do they have any imagination left in Hollywood? Considering what Kathleen Turner has gone through with her health, it's a fucking slap in the face to remake one of her finest moments, she and Douglas carried that movie. FilmCritic3000 is right, there will be no original movies by the year 2019, everything will be a fucking remake of a remake of a remake...
what the Reporter link says about They Live
by the milf lover
Dec 4th, 2008
01:23:41 AM
"Universal and studio-based Strike Entertainment, which are in negotiations to acquire the film rights with rights holder Les Mougins"

So they dont have the rights to it yet? If that rights holder has any goddamn sense, he's gonna tell them to GO TO FUCKING HELL and NOT SELL THE RIGHTS! Please motherfucker, put and end to SOME of this madness!

Kurosawa's Seven Samurai
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Dec 4th, 2008
01:25:21 AM
Are the Weinstein's still committing sacrilege by remaking Kurosawa's classic with Zhang "she'll look Japanese with makeup" Ziyi starring? Fuck you, Hollywood. FUCK YOU.
We have nobody to blame but ourselves
by the podosphere
Dec 4th, 2008
01:25:54 AM
for continuing to lay out our hard-earned Euros (the dollar is dead, get over it) for this stuff.

On the bright side, occasionally the re-imagining works out. Battlestar Galactica, for example.

Magnificent Seven was a great remake
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Dec 4th, 2008
01:32:19 AM
But how will the Weinsteins do it, set it in Irsq and call it Seven Kings? The worst thing about these remakes apart from there being no need is that original directors and screenplays busting their guts to do something different will find it even harder to get their films made. Virtually impossible. They'll have to whore themselves out to remakes cashing in on Gen X's obsession with anything from their childhood. Original and daring projects are the biggest losers from this.
The Re-Makes HAVE GOT TO STOP!
by Kirbymanly
Dec 4th, 2008
01:32:20 AM
Is nothing sacred anymore? Have the heads of studios become THIS fucking stupid?! I hope they know that they people who built the offices they sit in are underground shaking their heads in shame.
$$
by Maniaq
Dec 4th, 2008
01:33:57 AM
THEY LIVE

WE SLEEP

btw speaking of living the future predicted by bleak-ass sci-fi back in the 80's, Bruce Sterling was among those that predicted the Euro would replace the Dollar way back before there even WAS a Euro (I think he called them ECU's)

WTF??
by Aloy
Dec 4th, 2008
01:42:22 AM
There's a thousand great books out there with interesting story lines that would make great adaptations. They Live? Don't tell me that made anywhere near the bucks to justify a lazyass copy.
You maniacs!
by caruso_stalker217
Dec 4th, 2008
01:44:32 AM
http://tinyurl.com/538rkq
FUCKING ENOUGH ALREADY
by la_sith
Dec 4th, 2008
01:44:40 AM
DEAR HOLLYWOOD, FUCK YOU. -ME
And you simply CANNOT re-do that fight scene.
by la_sith
Dec 4th, 2008
01:48:46 AM
The only way to top that fight scene...
by caruso_stalker217
Dec 4th, 2008
01:50:26 AM
...is to make it ten minutes long and by the end they're hitting each other with motorcycles.
OH Hell No!!
by Athanatos
Dec 4th, 2008
01:51:54 AM
This is just too damn pathetic. I wish Hollywood execs would get their heads out of their asses and take a look at the countless scripts they have shelved and STOP WITH THE DAMN REMAKES!!!!! I came here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum.
la sith
by the milf lover
Dec 4th, 2008
01:54:03 AM
South Park already remade it:

CRIPPLE FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!

STONE, THEY LIVE, & THING...
by Mullah Omar
Dec 4th, 2008
01:56:40 AM
...DO NOT NEED REMAKES!

The cast in all three was a very large part of the charm, and in terms of visual effects, all films were top notch. What else is left to improve? Nothing, so fuck off.

I don't give a shit about ARTHUR.
milf lover
by la_sith
Dec 4th, 2008
01:58:08 AM
Yeah, but that's different. :) Seriously, this is dreadful. And shame on Carpenter for cashing in on his classics. Halloween? Check. The Fog? Check. Assault On Precinct 13? Check. Escape From NY? Under way. I understand that some projects he has no control over. But serving as Exec Producer on these things is like being anally violated by your dad at age 65.
I support all remakes!!!!
by Bob Cryptonight
Dec 4th, 2008
02:00:19 AM
Unlike most of you, to me a remake in NO WAY affects the original. If you think it does, you may have some brain damage. I absolutely LOVE when remakes suck!!! I've had many many enjoyable experiences watching horrible remakes. Burton's PLANET OF THE APES was really funny because it was so bad! And on the off-chance a remake is good--that's even better! I LOVE both versions of THE THING. I'll happily see a new take in a third version. As for ARTHUR...the original was horrible and insubstantial, so they should be able to top that fairly easily.
By "support" I don't necessarily mean I spend money on them!
by Bob Cryptonight
Dec 4th, 2008
02:01:00 AM
By "support" I don't necessarily mean I spend money on them!
Well said, WhinyNegativeBitch
by kafka07
Dec 4th, 2008
02:01:53 AM
I would add that instead of aliens maybe they could use mormons, or perhaps a race of Sarah Palins.
No shame on Carpenter...
by Kirbymanly
Dec 4th, 2008
02:02:28 AM
He doesn't own the rights to those films. He has no say. Same way more Terminator films are made without Cameron. If he serves as Executive Producer, so fucking what. Let the guy reap the rewards he was never given in the first place.
UGH!!
by The Gospel According to Bastardface
Dec 4th, 2008
02:06:19 AM
SERIOUSLY ... UGH!!
Not that cunt Brand!
by Charlie & Tex
Dec 4th, 2008
02:14:14 AM
That wannabe Jazck Sparrow has soiled his own nest here and now the US wants to embrace him because of his appearance in a couple of crap movies. Christ, Dudley Moore must be turning in his fucking grave right about now...
WAH WAH WAH there raping my childhood.. FUCKOFF!
by bongo123
Dec 4th, 2008
02:19:24 AM
you dont own the property, the studios owe you fuck all, your just a fucking nobody number on a box office receipt, it's their movies & there call to do whatever they want with em, while you cry and rant and moan about "your" classics being remade, the business that is Hollywood is releasing all these classic movies for a new generation of kids who can't be arsed watching old movies, get over it for fucks sakes! bring on more remakes i say!!!
i hate movies
by Admiral Akwelches
Dec 4th, 2008
02:25:55 AM
i hate all of you who are championing the remakes. i pray that anyone who writes a treatment for a remake instantly becomes a dickless cunt. fuck......fuck.
Remakes actually do hurt the original
by Continentalop
Dec 4th, 2008
02:26:34 AM
Sure a well known film that has entered the lexicon like Planet of the Apes is hard to hurt, but what about films that hasn't entered the mass consciousness yet? You can already see it with the horrible Texas Chainsaw Massacre starting to replace the original in young peoples minds as the authentic version, just as Dawn of the Dead and House of Wax, or even Steve Martin's Cheaper By the Dozen replacing Cliffton Webb's far more amusing version.

Fred Zinnemann was well very astute and had foresight when he fought Universal to prevent them from letting the remake of his "Day of the Jackal" retaining the name. He knew that would damage his movie by confusing future audiences and the bad association with the Bruce Willis version.

Russel Brand????????
by BenBraddock
Dec 4th, 2008
02:32:48 AM
What the FUCK?! Who in their right minds would put up the money for an ARTHUR remake with that talent-free twat as lead? And THEY LIVE is perfect as is, a cheesey low-budget 80s classic. That's one turd that doesn't need any polishing (and I use the word "turd" with love)
Remaking a Carpenter film = not cool =
by Flip63Hole
Dec 4th, 2008
02:45:13 AM
knock it off already.
"I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass..".
by Mr Spork
Dec 4th, 2008
02:46:36 AM
...and I'm all out of bubble gum".
Isn't it a bit late for "They Live"?
by Shan
Dec 4th, 2008
02:50:45 AM
It seems it would have made more sense to have made it (and released it) between January 2001 to January 2009. After all, as Jon Stewart's show repeatedly seemed to show, the Republican Party seemed to be going out of their way to be extremely nasty time and time again, which would have fit "They Live" well. (You know, giving the rich everything, taking everything from the poor).

For all we know the Democrats could actually be as nasty as the Republicans (though I doubt it) but they'd be a lot more subtle about any underhandedness.

Wow...
by kwisatzhaderach
Dec 4th, 2008
02:54:09 AM
...just, wow.
wow, irony overload on people complaining about a THING remake!
by irc-Hollywood
Dec 4th, 2008
03:03:07 AM
carpenter's THING is a remake, re-imanging, whatever, the idea of complaining or whining about the possibility of another remake... *sigh*
Oh yeah - because Day of the Jackal has a high Q score as a resu
by JackRabbitSlim
Dec 4th, 2008
03:03:16 AM
Day of the Jackal would rank among "young people" between the familiarity of naming the 19th President of the United States and naming the capital of Sierra Leone. Seriously - do you truly delude yourself into thinking it has any name recognition anywhere outside movie geeks? And honestly why do you care? Does people not knowing the merits of 'The Candidate' or 'Rififi' or 'Out of the Past' make them any less films? I'd argue to my dying breath that it isn't remakes (which it has been argued over and over again have been done since film started) or changing tastes or "decline in quality" (how subjective is that bit of selfpretentious tripe some other tber spewed) but time itself that kills damn near every movie, no matter how great it is. I read somewhere that approx 5,000 movies were made pre 1920. How many have you seen?
Yeah Shan - maybe the remake will be backed by George Soros
by JackRabbitSlim
Dec 4th, 2008
03:10:21 AM
You know - that billionaire hedge-fund owner who bankrolled MoveOn.org but made his fortune breaking the British Pound and the resultant misery of the British near-depression of the late 70's early 80s. Bring on the new boss - same as the old boss.
Stop it now!!!!
by Gabba-UK
Dec 4th, 2008
03:16:05 AM
If people never went to see to these bloody remakes, they'd stop making them. It's that simple. But as 90% of people are in fact so fucking stupid that they believe what the media tells (this version is much better than the original, no really) they'll continue to make good box office and studio will continue to make them. A Romancing the Stone remake is a bloody stupid idea anyway. Because at the moment the camera captured her hacking through the jungle, the rain making that linen dress cling to her body and legs, Katheline Turner became the hottest woman ever in film and made me a leg and arse man, rather than a tit lover. Hail the 80's goddess, Turner!!!
WHO GOES THERE?
by GavinVanDraven
Dec 4th, 2008
03:28:47 AM
should be the title to THE THING sequel or prequel. no goddam reason to RE-MAKE it! FUCK THAT! Rob Botin must do the special effects, no fucking cgi, just down and dirty puppetry and gory filmed in reverse shit. i always liked the ideas presented in the video game version of THE THING. an army unit shows up after they lose contact with the antarctic base. man that game was freaky. think of how ALIEN was followed by ALIENS. that kind of aesthetic. it WORKS! THE THING, with part 2 called WHO GOES THERE?, and part 3 the aptly titled AND ANOTHER THING. to a remake i say "YOU GOTTA BE FUCKING KIDDING."
best part of THEY LIVE
by GavinVanDraven
Dec 4th, 2008
03:31:36 AM
aside from the fight and the much quoted ass and bubblegum line was the very last shot of the movie. that is the stuff of nightmares. "WHATS WRONG BABY?" holy fuck i feel sorry for the woman. you never get a reaction shot... all you see is the alien that is fucking her... and that line follows. wow.
i always prefered the porn title
by GavinVanDraven
Dec 4th, 2008
03:33:20 AM
ROMANCING THE BONE. kinda makes me chuckle. i love talking to myself.... ZZZZZZZZZ
"Lil Wayne remaking Christopher Cross "Arthurs Theme"
by JackRabbitSlim
Dec 4th, 2008
03:47:40 AM
WHO CARES? WHO EFFING CARES? 'Oh my god - they're going to have Metro Station remake Eddy Grant's 'Romancing the Stone Theme Song.' Me and Sally Rottencrotch made out on her Plymouth Turismo to that song and I got my first feel of the wet and slimy!!! Dont you DARE insult my precious masturbatory memories!"
Wow that song sucked
by JackRabbitSlim
Dec 4th, 2008
03:50:17 AM
I'm romancing the stooooone

Never leaving your poor heart alooone.

Every night and every daaaay

Blah blah blah

MF'ing remakes
by I_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looki ng_for
Dec 4th, 2008
04:01:29 AM
I've said it before...

YOU DO NOT NEED TO REMAKE A FILM THAT WORKED PERFECTLY WELL IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Save the fucking remakes for good ideas that didn't work! The Thing fucking works! Romancing the Stone fucking works! etc etc

And getting the talentless fuckwit who wrote (stole is more like it) Eagle Eye is just a slap in the face.

I know where this is leading... And the moment anyone even hints towards a Back to the Future remake I'm going to start punching people.

Just random people.

It won't matter if you're responsible or not.

Fuck this never ending stream of fucking remakes.

Remakes!
by Mr Gorilla
Dec 4th, 2008
04:05:46 AM
They're not a bad thing PER SE. But does someone out there really think they have what it takes to raise the bar on the combines talents of Zemeckis, Douglas, Turner, De Vito et al? Do they REALLY think they can make a better film? Because kids - who are NOT stupid - are still very much enjoying the 80s versions.
The remake of Dawn destroyed the original
by bongo123
Dec 4th, 2008
04:06:39 AM
in everyway, the original was pure class for its time, as a kid it was the balls, as an adult, its fucking hilarious, thank fuck for remakes! now if only they'd get Zack back to do a proper Day remake... heck id remake 2001, Alien, Terminator, Predator etc etc just read about all you fucking idiots crying like little babies!
Remaking BACK TO THE FUTURE
by Mr Gorilla
Dec 4th, 2008
04:07:50 AM
... which they WILL DO soon, let's face it... It misses the point. Gale and Zemeckis weren't being 100% original themselves - they were doing a (very) 80s spin on The Time Machine. Taking the original idea and running with it. Why can't someone today take the same imaginative leap?
new contract called for
by Mr Gorilla
Dec 4th, 2008
04:09:17 AM
If I was a burgeoning Zemeckis, I would insist on a period within which my film could not be remade. (Easier said than done, I know.) A period of, say, 50 years?
Pretty soon, the remaking of 90's movies !!!
by Se7en
Dec 4th, 2008
04:12:35 AM
Remake 'Reality Bites' and 'The Matrix !!!'
the remake should be called "From Outer Space"
by Maniaq
Dec 4th, 2008
04:21:06 AM
you guys can bitch all want but you WILL see these remakes either way

tell me I'm lying

I'm reminded of something a Hollywood producer once me when I started complaining to him about all the crap Hollywood produces - he reminded me I had seen all these movies and I may think they're rubbish but it doesn't matter because, as he put it "WE GOT YOUR MONEY" - and there is probably a whole laundry list of "good" movies I have yet to shell out a few bucks to catch, because I'm sooooo busy spending all my time watching CRAP that I wasn't even EXPECTING to be good...

they got our money guys - and they'll keep churning out this crap until we STOP handing it over to them

Remake Jewel of the Nile please
by pokadoo
Dec 4th, 2008
04:21:32 AM
The original was a bit shit, you could only improve it!
WTF HAPPENED TO CREATIVITY???ORIGINALITY???
by Broseph
Dec 4th, 2008
04:22:48 AM
Jesus enough of the fuckin remakes
Remakes are an inevitable product of the information age
by Cannabis Holocaust
Dec 4th, 2008
04:24:55 AM
No matter how much you bitch and moan, remakes are here to stay. It's just business.
Jack Rabbit Slim
by Continentalop
Dec 4th, 2008
04:25:13 AM
That is my point. These movies don't have a high Q rating. And when you do a "remake" then all you are doing is robbing potential future audiences a chance of discovering and seeing the original version because the name will be associated with the new version.

I'll give you one example: Scarface. I love both versions, but the DiPalma movie has now supplanted Hawk's version as the one found in video store and computer databases. Anyone who perhaps hears how "Scarface" helped inspire the Departed will instead be misdirected to the 80's version.

So what is my answer? Something you yourself suggested Jack: re-imaginings (as well as inspired by). I wound prefer if the movies made were movies inspired by the original; you can much of the same premise, just change the title (like the Departed did with Infernal Affairs; or how I am Legend was filmed three times under different titles). This way both movies get a chance to shine and maybe last, instead of one being thrown into obscurity.

Obviously this isn’t a rule carved in stone. I readily admit that audiences rediscover many movies because they are a remake and people are curious to see the original. But to be honest, this rarely happens and it is more common for one of the movies to only become a trivia question.

DIe in fire Bongo.
by Lost Jarv
Dec 4th, 2008
04:27:54 AM
And on remakes- there is a difference between a remake and a different interpretation of the same source material- The Thing v TCM.

Day of the Jackal is a fucking magnificent book and neither film is worthy.

Russell Brand's Ponderland is hillarious
by pokadoo
Dec 4th, 2008
04:28:02 AM
Check it out, he's really funny. He probably has a limited range, but I'm all for Brand's Hollywood career, if only as a Fuck You to the Daily Mail & Knee-jerk reactionists that are now using Brand's ill judged prank as an excuse to ban anything fun on TV & Radio.
Scarface is a good example of how to do a remake properly
by Lost Jarv
Dec 4th, 2008
04:29:22 AM
The Departed is not. Infernal Affairs destroys Scorcese's piss poor effort.
Speaking of the 80's, anyone see the new Ghostbusters...
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 4th, 2008
04:35:39 AM
trailer for the new game? Looks freaking awesome. I can't wait.
Three things.
by Continentalop
Dec 4th, 2008
04:43:31 AM
Having never read the book, I still think Zinnemann's adaptation of "Day of the Jackal" is very good (and if I remember right, so did Frederick Forsythe).

I actually like The Departed. Is it Academy Award winning? Maybe not (can't really remember the competition that year). Is it as good as Infernal Affairs? In same ways better, in many others no. But while I don't think it equals his earlier, greater films, I do think Scorsese captures the effects of leading a double life and betrayal of loyalty has on a man, and how it erodes your soul.

And I am one person who will admit I prefer the original Scarface over the Pacino version. I now have lost my street cred and can no longer be a gangsta rapper.

THEY LIVER.
by alice 13
Dec 4th, 2008
04:45:28 AM
with a nice chianti.
I seriously hope someone remakes CITIZEN KANE.
by Bob Cryptonight
Dec 4th, 2008
04:47:45 AM
HAMLET gets remade ALL THE TIME, and in so many varying versions & styles and even in experimental form. That's the stage--but there is no reason why film can't do the exact same thing...especially if some morons are willing to finance it! Studios just want to make a NEW profit off of a NEW generation using an OLD property that has limited appeal to said NEW generation. Studios DO NOT care about "Art"...they want money. Along the way good movies get made, but even the bad ones can be hilarious blunders. Long after Uncle George is dead (and us too), STAR WARS will be remade. No matter what George has in his will and no matter who is in charge of his estate, SOMEDAY it will be remade. Big deal.
They Live...Strarring Kurt Fucking Russell!!!
by pokadoo
Dec 4th, 2008
04:48:36 AM
The way it shoulda been. Rowdy Roddy Piper is good in cheese like Hell Comes to Frogtown, but I always felt this movie was missing something. Carpenters' regular muse. Death Proof proved Kurt still has the chops. This is a second chance to get this right!
Before you start crying "DOWN WITH REMAKES"
by kaspianwithak
Dec 4th, 2008
04:51:52 AM
Remember, there are a lot of great ones (from as early as the magnificent seven up to the departed). I don't have a problem with any of these being remade, I don't understand the uproar over Romancing the Stone at all. Although I guess I do, talkbackers would be in an uproar over just about any announcement on this site. There could be a post saying "George Lucas is apologizing for the prequels and starting work on the final three Star Wars films, with a commitment to recapturing the magic he lost" and some idiot would say FUCK THAT. You guys are ridiculous. Every one of these movies deserves nothing more than to be played on a Saturday afternoon, maybe they'll be remade into something good.
Thanks to whoever mentioned Day of the Jackal...
by kaspianwithak
Dec 4th, 2008
04:53:03 AM
I always had a nagging feeling that Bruce Willis movie was a shitty remake of something good.
The big problem isn't remakes...
by Continentalop
Dec 4th, 2008
04:59:58 AM
...It is the lack of quality porno rip-offs of successful films. I men what was the last porn title taken from a Hollywood movie that had you rolling?

For me it was driving by the Tomcat theatre on Santa Monica and seeing a double-feature of "Drill Bill, Vol. II" & "Sweet Homo, Alabama." I was laughing so hard I had to pull over.

Republicans do cartoon villainy better.
by Shan
Dec 4th, 2008
05:17:09 AM
Not saying Democrats can't be villains but Republicans did cartoon villainy better. "I'm vetoing this bill that provides better education for soldiers and this other health care for poor children.". There may well be subtleties in the bill from the Republicans point of view that they had to stop but the public don't see it that way.

Throw in Dick Cheney's "So" when told a majority of Americans were against the Iraq war in a poll and that he had "better things to do" as to why didn't go to Vietnam - well actually a lot of things Dick Cheney did and you have a better subject for a "They Live" film. Democrats seem to be more wishy washy about being nasty and evil.

You mean The Departed is a remake too?
by Sick Fixx
Dec 4th, 2008
05:21:44 AM
Dammit, is nothing original any more? And what do you mean Scarface remake? When did that happen? WHAT THE FUCK!?
Sick Fixx
by Shan
Dec 4th, 2008
05:32:05 AM
The Departed came from a Hong Kong Series called Infernal Affairs and the Al Pacino Scarface IS the remake. I think the original is a Howard Hughes film from the 30's.

A lot of people also don't know that the Charlton Heston Ben Hur is also a remake of the original, there was one made in the 20's I think and also a version predating that.

Original Scarface (1932)
by Continentalop
Dec 4th, 2008
05:43:27 AM
Howard Hughes produced it, it was directed by Howard Hawks, Ben Hecht & W.R. Burnett supplied the script, and it starred Paul Muni, George Raft & BORIS KARLOFF as gangsters.
the first alien movie was a remake.
by alice 13
Dec 4th, 2008
05:48:07 AM
it was a remake of "it! the terror from beyond space".
Are people fucking retarded?
by Gungan Slayer
Dec 4th, 2008
05:50:23 AM
They must be, if this is all Hollywood keeps cranking out. It's not that fucking hard to come up with new or creative ideas for films. "Romancing the Stone?" Really? Really Fox? What the FUCK. I'm not a huge fan of this film and its sequel, but they were both fun to watch. But honestly...how fucking hard is it to come up with a romantic comedy adventure film? I just don't understand how a remake of this film is even necessary.
Let's have a remake of Independance Day
by IAmMrMonkey!
Dec 4th, 2008
05:52:52 AM
Because that movie was years ago. Oh, and let's get a remake of Aliens 2. Interested, Ratner? Excellent. And why stop there? I want remakes of Serentiy, Unforgiven and Basic Instict because they're all old now. And also The Dark Knight because many days have passed since it was released and thus it's time for a remake.

Oh and....

Fuck you Hollywood.

Aliens 2?
by IAmMrMonkey!
Dec 4th, 2008
05:53:31 AM
I feel ashamed. You know what I meant.
The Scarface Remake
by Mr Gorilla
Dec 4th, 2008
05:54:10 AM
...was appropriate because about 50 years had passed. You really can watch both films and enjoy both. It's not remaking per se that's the problem. It's remaking SO MUCH within about 25 years of it first appearing. Remaking foreign films - if well done - it less of a prob to me. The Departed was valid, as was A Fistful of Dollars. They were very different from the originals. (A shot-for-shot remake like Funny Games seems to have less of a point to me.) Final thought: if you remake a classic film, you are setting yourself up for a fall. Why not try to remake movies that didn't quite deliver on their premise? Oh - final, final thought. There's always exceptions to every rule. I totally LOVE Phil Kaufman's remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Makes me think that every remake is valid, if the make places it authentically in his contemporary world. Oh - one more point. Tim Burton should hang his head in shame for the terrible remakes he's made.
"I've come here to Suck ass and scew bubblegum"
by Midnightxpress
Dec 4th, 2008
05:54:11 AM
The words Fox and Retarded
by TOGSolid
Dec 4th, 2008
06:18:29 AM
Should pretty much be synonymous by now.
I'm getting tired of visiting this site
by Norm Cascade
Dec 4th, 2008
06:19:02 AM
This news doesn't seem all that cool to me.
Could Strike "entertainment" be struck by a deadly earthquake?
by JackPumpkinhead
Dec 4th, 2008
06:22:38 AM
Could it happen by 2009, please?
well fuck off then Norm
by Lost Jarv
Dec 4th, 2008
06:26:35 AM
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
I'm sure The Thing remake will have worse special effects...
by OgreYouAsshole
Dec 4th, 2008
06:31:57 AM
than Carpenter's since it's all about the CGI nowadays. A "They Live" remake sounds more intriguing.
well I'll be fucked
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Dec 4th, 2008
06:50:49 AM
I just spent all day at the flicks and thought nothing could depress me. Romancing the fucking Stone. FUCK YOU!
Hollywood: Where Imagination Dies
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Dec 4th, 2008
07:03:49 AM
Again, my new slogan for every remake talkback.
This is like putting perfume on a pig
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Dec 4th, 2008
07:05:32 AM
This sucks, sucks, sucks, sucks, sucks, sucks, sucks, sucks, etc. The quotes, the alley fight scene, Keith David, and Rowdy Roddy. This is one of the best, and Hollywood thinks they can top it?
They Live remake
by The Amazing G
Dec 4th, 2008
07:24:28 AM
MIGHT be interesting, but a Thing remake? HELL NAWWWW! give me a prequel or a sequel, but no remake please
your all whining now...
by teh ran
Dec 4th, 2008
07:25:37 AM
...but you'll all have to eat your hats when they remake star wars and do such a good job that you'll have nothing to complain about. I don't mind remakes because I don't watch or endorse them, but there's a generation of people out there who would rather watch a remake than the original, pity them and move on with your lives.
if I had to pick an old horror flick to remake
by The Amazing G
Dec 4th, 2008
07:26:02 AM
it would be David Cronenberg's Shivers, it's such a creepy ass premise, but the movie doesn't really deliver
Why remake Romancing?
by Abominable Snowcone
Dec 4th, 2008
07:28:48 AM
It was a pretty decent flick to begin with. Back with Kathy Turner was hot masturation fodder for preteen guys like myself. What the hell is with this remake epidemic, anyway?
WOW! Amazing, Hollywood will be dead soon.
by Darth_Kaos
Dec 4th, 2008
07:32:26 AM
The independent sector is where it's at. The last source of original thought. If only proper distribution was available for them, people would see more creative movies.

I don't mind a remake of They Live, but everything else will not, I repeat, will not match the originals. EVEY LAST ONE OF THESE MOVIES (IF MADE) WILL BOMB!
Jackrabbitslim
by Abominable Snowcone
Dec 4th, 2008
07:33:31 AM
Eddie Grant will find you and kick your ass. Then you will know the true meaning of, "out in the street there is violence."
Remaking They Live is a GOOD idea
by NEUR0M4NCER
Dec 4th, 2008
07:54:25 AM
It was a great film for the time, and had lots to say, but a nice flipside would be a big, glitzy, Will Smith cover version. I think it will make you poo in your pants at how good it could be.
surely they jest?
by RockLobster800
Dec 4th, 2008
08:00:27 AM
do producers just sit with a big list of films nowadays reading names at random going "hey that was a pretty good film-lets remake that! We'll hire directors with a quarter of the talent and vision of the original and whoever may be on the cusp of being a popular hunky actor, throw the shit at the wall and see what sticks!"....although after the summer its become harder to rant about retooling when a genuinely brilliant revamp came out in The Dark Knight. As much as I love that film, I fear now that'll make Hollywood even more lazy and dependent on remakes due to its success...gotta take the good with the bad I guess? (but seriously-remaking Romancing The Stone?! Jesus Christ!!)
NEUR0M4NCER, I think the poo is embedded
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Dec 4th, 2008
08:02:03 AM
in your cranium. Sorry, but They Live is great period, and we don't need to stinking remake. Will Smith or otherwise.
Remake Polar Express
by Samuel Fulmer
Dec 4th, 2008
08:02:52 AM
Without the mo-cap and dead eyes. I'd also like to see a remake of Men In Black with Micheal Cera in the Will Smith role and Samuel L. Jackson in the Tommy Lee Jones role directed by Perez Hilton. I'd also like Brett Ratner's shot for shot remake of Gus Van Sant's Psycho starring Chris Tucker as Norman.
3 things "They Live" remake must have
by lowman
Dec 4th, 2008
08:02:54 AM
1:Must have a fight scene that ups the ante on the orginal's masterpiece. 2: A Roddy Piper Cameo. Have him play the construction boss that they meet up with in the tunnels at the end. 3: "Chew bubblegum" line must be in there word for word, no cute gen X update....."I have come here to do two things, listen to my Ipod and kick ass. And my Ipod just ran out of batteries!"
Comedies are such a tricky thing. How the hell do
by Coughlins Laws
Dec 4th, 2008
08:04:42 AM
they have the balls to try to remake Arthur. It's one of the top 5 Comedies of all time and catching lightning in a bottle twice is so difficult. Why do they even bother? Remaking a horror film or cheesy drama is different. But what will they do with Arthur? Tell the same jokes over again? And who is this aimed at? People old enough to remember the original will not watch this and will young people care? Playing drunk througout a whole movie is a very tricky thing to do and I don't see any actor in this generation that can convincingly pull it off. What idiots...
Should be a Thing sequal
by McFlyWalker
Dec 4th, 2008
08:19:31 AM
The Master of Mullets, Kurt Russell still kicks ass & a beard will just make him MacReady again. They go with the 2 issue mini series from the 90's.-which is probably where the game drew its inspiration from & make a deserved sequal. Less effects.........more tension.
Only one of these should happen.
by Fawst
Dec 4th, 2008
08:25:12 AM
And that's They Live.

It needs a huge budget, a pretty epic scale, a writer that "gets it," and a director that doesn't let it fall apart.

I'll take the writer/director job, please.
There is hope for a "they live" remake if..
by classyfredblassy
Dec 4th, 2008
08:25:29 AM
They get the visionary Tim Story to direct it. Jason Biggs and Tracey Morgan are the leads. They use lots of cheap CGI effects to create the aliens. They have a hip hop theme song done by Trick Daddy Mo Fo.
A "They Live Remake? FUCKING HORSESHIT!
by Mr Slippy Fist
Dec 4th, 2008
08:33:40 AM
Hollywood sucks, Tom Rothman eats a dick, and Jon Peters is a bleeding twat. Just saying. . .
To everyone moaning about remakes..
by CharyouTree
Dec 4th, 2008
08:39:49 AM
..and why no original movies anymore, well we have AVATAR next year, and from what I see on the TBs most are intent on bashing that, well fuck you moaning bitches at "if it aint a comic dont bother news"
Can´t wait for...
by Chanoc
Dec 4th, 2008
08:40:13 AM
Not Another American Remake: The Movie you know it´s going to happen.
Im out. Arthur remaked broke me. No way
by Knobules
Dec 4th, 2008
08:42:10 AM
That movie belonged to Dudley Moore. Thanks a lot Hollywood, I hung in there, but this is it. Its over. Bye. Put P Diddy in you remake POS and have a nice time. Bastards.
Remakes aren't bad but
by Crimson Dynamo
Dec 4th, 2008
08:43:34 AM
they're remaking well-known, almost iconic movies. There are probably tons of lesser known movies out there where a good remake could probably do it justice. I'll give you one - "Bad Ronald"
Shan already touched on this
by Shut the Fuck up Donny
Dec 4th, 2008
08:46:12 AM
but John Carpenter said (sorry, I don't remember the source on this) that They Live was an attack on Reaganomics. That being the core of the message, it seems silly to try to remake a film that attacks a political/economic mindset no longer in vogue.

However, I suppose the film could be tweaked to address pop-culture media obsession to get a somewhat similar message across (i.e. all the Britneys/Mileys/Lindsays could be aliens; I-pod screens flashing the word "obey" over and over again...)

id love to know a remake that actually worked
by ZO
Dec 4th, 2008
08:54:06 AM
really i would
THEY LIVE 90210?!?!?!?!?!?!
by BringingSexyBack
Dec 4th, 2008
09:01:51 AM
My next door neighbors are aliens. They're Republicans.
JASON STATHAM AS RODDY PIPER!!!!!
by BringingSexyBack
Dec 4th, 2008
09:04:47 AM
Gary Coleman as Keith David!!!!
Yea, an Arthur remake because ya know,
by skimn
Dec 4th, 2008
09:06:06 AM
drunks ARE funny. WAIT. Better yet, make the character a heroin addict. If the stumbling, slurring ways of a drunk are funny, just imagine. Passing out in mid sentence while in a heroin stupor. And drooling. Drooling IS FUNNY!! And pissing their pants!! Oh my, the comedy possibilities are endless!!!
I would forgive a new 'The Thing' movie
by Ray Gamma
Dec 4th, 2008
09:10:27 AM
if it was a direct sequel (or prequel if it must be) to Carpenter's 'The Thing'. But don't attempt to remake Carpenter's 'The Thing', because you'll only fall flat on your arse. It can't be bettered. even with today's technology. It can't be bettered, so fucking leave it alone. We warned you.
Something to think about
by Flyingcircus
Dec 4th, 2008
09:12:33 AM
I detest this age of remakes as much as anybody. I feel like Hollywood has totally lost its magic. HOWEVER, a friend of mine brought up the other day the fact that almost all plays or Broadway shows are, in fact, remakes. They're the old story told again with new sets, new actors, and sometimes embellishments not previously seen. Since movies are basically just plays put on film, why then, do these remade films upset all of us so much? People shell out bucks to go see plays and musicals over and over.
They Live
by skimn
Dec 4th, 2008
09:13:12 AM
Except this time, its the Yuppie Republicans that are the heroes, and through their special glasses they see the eco-friendly Lefties as the aliens, sent to Earth to tax the populace to death. Rush Limbaugh and Bill O Reilly cameos ensue.
Be original like Day of the Dolphins
by crazybubba
Dec 4th, 2008
09:17:35 AM
Unless remakes are redone by great directors like Scorsese, De Palma and Carpenter they're usually nothing to write home about and sometimes even great directors don't get it right. War of the World was lukewarm.
I'm also reminded of something a Hollywood big shot said to me
by crazybubba
Dec 4th, 2008
09:22:30 AM
your pinto is ruining my shot.
Why would you remake They Live?
by HerbWestAustin
Dec 4th, 2008
09:40:11 AM
Fuck That. Down with Hollywood! I totally agree with Continentalop. p.s. No Shit The Thing is a remake. Do you think we don't know that?
What About Star Wars Episode 1-3 Remake (Lucas-free)
by estacado1
Dec 4th, 2008
09:49:44 AM
That will sell like hot cakes.
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
by CharyouTree
Dec 4th, 2008
10:03:18 AM
as Micheal Caine said "why remake the classics and not the flops, and then try get them right this time" which they did with Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
When they remade Pink Panther they crossed a line
by Mr Gorilla
Dec 4th, 2008
10:05:30 AM
When they remade THE PINK PANTHER they definitely crossed a line. The whole POINT of it was Sellers' bonkers performance as Clouseau. remake, I feel, can be valid if they CHANGE the setting. Bruce Willis' LAST MAN STANDING may not have been 100% success as a remake of YOJIMBO/FISTFUL, but it was at least valid as it found a new context, one that thought had been put into. What ISN'T valid is when they just 'update', and don't add anything. Burton's CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY was simply NO BETTER than the musical version. Adding a backstory to 'explain' why Wonka is so bonkers was a terrible idea. If Burton was making a Bond movie, he'd insert flashbacks showing Blofelt bullied as a child. Literally, the sort of storytelling that gets parodies in Austin Powers.
RTS remake must have...
by wash
Dec 4th, 2008
10:13:18 AM
The original Eddy Grant theme song. That shit rocked! I'M ROMANCING THE STOO-OH-OHN!
There have been some good remakes...
by eustisclay
Dec 4th, 2008
10:35:18 AM
... and I could list some but all you have to do is read sone of the postings above(okay, Ben Hur, Carpenter's The Thing, The Departed, 78's Invasion of the Body Snatcher's, The Maltese Falcon, No Way Out, 58, 79, & 92 versions of Dracula, I could go on, hell losts of horror I really liked Jackson's King Kong) but it just seems like there is getting to be too many. And as far as supporting them, I usually wait and read the reviews before taking a chance on them which is why I was spared the embarassment of Steve martin in The Pink Panther. I would actually like to see a remake of Fletch as I was never a fan of the Chevy versions. But the bad thing about remakes is that for the most part they are being remade for the name brand and not with love. My stepson was over a while back and I put in Psycho and he wasn't into it because he's seen the horrible Van Sant version on cable. That's another thing I hate about them(of course he's an idiot but that's another story. I myself say Against all Odds and loved it. This was before hove video and when I finally caught up with Out of the Past, while I liked it, I found myself preferring the remake(might be the Rachel Ward factor). If I had the out of the past first, who knows. I guess it doesn't do any good to bitch about it, they're going to do what they want anyway. We just have to not support the good ones and when there's a shitty one being released, grab all your loved ones and show them the original and keep them out ot the theater. Thankfully I think Coppola owns the rights to The Godfather(hope, hope, hope!) And as far as original movies, when will they get around to a Repairman Jack movie? Would love to see Christopher Meloni in that before he gets too old.
How will you suck, Romancing the Stone remake?
by ebonic_plague
Dec 4th, 2008
10:47:17 AM
Slow... like a snail? Or fast, like a shooting star?
They Live worth a remake
by ebolamonkey
Dec 4th, 2008
10:50:47 AM
The studio screwed over Carpenter on the edit and ending (it really is LOL funny how many times they just cut to the close up of a gun barrel firing) and the budget wasn't there to begin with. Romancing and Arthur can't be succesfully remade, that's not a challenge to the filmmakers - that's just a fact.
Origional They Live rough around the edges
by Zombieflicker
Dec 4th, 2008
10:51:00 AM
It was brilliant but the acting (I'm talking to you Meg Foster) and budget held it back from being anything more then a cult hit. If I remember correctly it tanked at the box-office. Today's youth probably doesn't have a fucking clue about the origional anyway. If I was a movie studio exec, It would make good business sense to remake every cult movie from the 80's because the majority of the target audience probably hasn't seen the original movie. They Live is a perfect canditate. Just don't fuck it up.
They Live deserves a remake
by Thot
Dec 4th, 2008
10:53:14 AM
It was one of those sci-fi/horror flicks that really had promise but ultimately fell flat. Great idea that almost worked. New cast, updated sfx, better script and direction and it could be gold. Just leave Romancing the Stone ALONE! Never gave a crap about Arthur. Proceed.
Hollywood cannot
by j_difool
Dec 4th, 2008
10:56:57 AM
make itself look any more stupid.
The Thing??
by Thot
Dec 4th, 2008
10:59:44 AM
...is being remade???? I hadn't heard this. I honestly can't see any reason for doing it. Carpenter's version is excellent, a classic. I hope it doesn't happen.
Some remakes are justified
by hallmitchell
Dec 4th, 2008
11:12:34 AM
These are NOT. I won't be going to any of them. I'll just hire out the old ones on DVD if I want to see them.
Russell Brand is no Dudley Moore.
by Rev. Slappy
Dec 4th, 2008
11:17:03 AM
I thought Brand was the best thing in Sarah Marshall, but I just don't see him being anything but wildly obnoxious as Arthur Bach. Moore was nominated for an Oscar in the original and Gielgud won supporting actor. I have no problem with remaking this because I always thought Moore and Liza Minelli had absolutely no chemistry at all. McKellen would rock as the butler. But is alcoholism funny in 2008?
Raise your (free) hand
by Abominable Snowcone
Dec 4th, 2008
11:20:28 AM
if you jacked off to Kathleen Turner in your younger days
and let's remake all the John Hughes Movies
by crankyoldguy
Dec 4th, 2008
11:20:29 AM
of '80s. Pretty in Pink, 16 Candles, etc. Oh, wait, they did adding bullshit vampires that don't act like vampires and called it Twilight.
BOYCOTT...PROTEST OUTSIDE STUDIOS...
by crankyoldguy
Dec 4th, 2008
11:23:11 AM
and mail the execs in charge dogshit as christmas presents, all wrapped up. Talk about people who DESERVE TO BE TAXED HIGHER THAN THE REST OF US...
The Thing
by XxSoulFlyxX
Dec 4th, 2008
11:26:24 AM
That movie just needs an update with special effects. The monster in it is laughable. Other than that it is a good movie.
Instead of remakes thay should do RE-RELEASES!!!
by FleshMachine
Dec 4th, 2008
11:32:58 AM
i'd see RTS in theaters for sure. Saw it first on a plane to finland in 1984!
They Live and The Thing...
by pdennett316
Dec 4th, 2008
11:39:22 AM
I love both of these movies, but I would watch a remake of them.

Well, I'd actually prefer the Norwegian POV version that was mentioned earlier...that could work if done in a similar way to the original....fuck CG!

Don't do shot by shot remakes - pointless - make sure they're cast properly - i.e not like the Fog remake - and get a good script and director. It shouldn't be hard, but Hollywood usually finds a way to fuck up one of those simple steps.

They should just make REMAKE!: THE REMAKE and get it over with..
by JustinSane
Dec 4th, 2008
11:39:39 AM
...then maybe this will all stop. Unless, of course, they remake it. Fuck. It will NEVER end!!!
Somebody in Warners bros..will annouce..
by emeraldboy
Dec 4th, 2008
12:10:46 PM
a remake of supergirl. but they will only do it if the Superman reboot works. and is a success. but it will happen a supergirl remake.
Still a LOT to mine in the They Live universe
by Raymar
Dec 4th, 2008
12:30:22 PM
Obviously, the Matrix has already showed the potential of where the franchise could go. But The Thing is that rare PERFECT movie! It CANNOT be improved! Not even with CGI or adding a woman to the cast or whatever. Bad move.
Nothing much new to say...
by Somerichs
Dec 4th, 2008
12:31:00 PM
that hasn't already been said above; anyone who tries to remake "Arthur" is as much of an asshole as the folks trying to remake "Poltergeist." Ditto for "Romancing the Stone," but to a lesser degree (I can see where there's enough room there for a new interpretation that it might be somewhat acceptable if they get the right people to do it, which is doubtful). And ditto for "They Live," but to a lesser degree than RTS. It was a pure cheese, low budget, somewhat forgettable (sorry) flick that didn't do all that well at the time. Gives me a lot less heartburn to see that remade than either of the other two...
In related news, they're remaking the Doobie Brothers...
by Somerichs
Dec 4th, 2008
12:39:22 PM
with Taylor Hicks in the Michael McDonald role, Bo Bice in the Patrick Simmons role, and Ruben Studdard as Cornelius Bumpus. They haven't cast the other parts yet, but don't be surprised to see some boy band rejects in the mix...
pulp fiction remake in the works!
by reckni
Dec 4th, 2008
01:00:13 PM
And while they're at it, why not remake Apocalypse Now? Even Chinatown could use more action. Yeah, I thought the Psycho remake was fantastic...
They should remake books as well
by My Mom Is A Whore
Dec 4th, 2008
01:15:41 PM
The Bible by Stephen King would be awesome. Moses leads everyone to Maine, and the Angel of Death looks like a clown who comes from a place where everybody floats.
My Mom, Stephen already did that...
by Somerichs
Dec 4th, 2008
01:21:59 PM
Woops, hit the wrong button...
by Somerichs
Dec 4th, 2008
01:25:23 PM
See Stephen King's books "Desperation" and "The Regulators." Sorta, anyway...
Why can't we read about it here?
by alienindisguise
Dec 4th, 2008
01:35:28 PM
just go ahead and change the damn site to "Follow the Links" FUCK!!!!
They should renake my 80s teen erections...
by Alonzo Mosely
Dec 4th, 2008
01:38:56 PM
Those things were epic, and Shia in some prosthetics would be a dead ringer... Oh, and 'The Thing' was not a remake. It was just an adaption of source material that had been used before. That is the difference. You think anyone is going to the source short story for this remake? Anyway, modern Hollywood has two options for new movies it seems. Option any comic, even unreleased ones, or remake a 70s or 80s movie. Meanwhile a million unread spec scripts rot...
Need to start remaking the Bourne films before it's too late..
by Darth_Inedible
Dec 4th, 2008
01:41:46 PM
How awesome would it be to have the latest Bourne film released side by side with a completely updated remake of the Bourne Identity starring Shia LaBeouf?
A million spec scripts is the problem
by Continentalop
Dec 4th, 2008
01:49:03 PM
As a small time screenwriter, I will say guys like me are part of the problem. There is to many of us. It used to be that not many people wanted to be screenwriter. Anybody who considered himself a writer was trying to make the Great American Novel (look at Barton Fink to see how much respect screenwriters used to get). Well now, we have all moved onto the Great American Script, and the studios are just buried under crap. It is easier to just hire someone to remake a movie you know that works then try to find something that is salvageable. It is just like the Independent Film movement. I mean look at the Sundance Film Festival which got over 9,000 submissions this year; sure there is some great little independent gems out there, but how do you find when you have to weed through so many horrible films?
THEY LIVE REMAKE
by misnomer
Dec 4th, 2008
02:07:15 PM
"I'm here to suck dick and lick ass. And I'm all out of balls."
:weed through so many horrible films? "
by Alonzo Mosely
Dec 4th, 2008
02:15:27 PM
Sure there are only a few gems in the piles of shit, but Hollywood's laziness in not bothering to go digging is leading to a creative whirlpool that will eventually ruin Hollywood.

Any creative medium requires new fresh blood and ideas to thrive and grow. Using the same old ideas, and writers, and locking the door on new talent is a mistake that will eventually cost Hollywood billions in lost revenue.

What new writers show up in Hollywood make it on how hard they worked their contacts, not how much talent they have.

If you want to be a Hollywood screenwriter, I would suggest you forget about screenplays, and get into writing comics. Hollywood will option even the most obscure online comics...

Russel Brand is a twat
by ArcadianDS
Dec 4th, 2008
02:27:38 PM
will absolutely not watch anything he's in.
Remakes and Ideas
by Subtlety
Dec 4th, 2008
02:32:16 PM
Now, I'm not fundamentally opposed to remakes; they just have to be done for a reason. A filmmaker who appreciates the material but finds some part of it underdeveloped or unexplored may well take the central plot of a film, even a very good film, and make something unique and worthwhile out of it. Plenty of examples are available in the above talkback, ie Star Wars, Magnificent Seven, etc. These films took the central idea for a film and adapted it to a different vision, culture, time period, or philosophy. They maintain some of the great things about the original story, but also have a unique character.

Then you've got stuff like the remake of "The Omen" or "The Manchurian Candidate." Films that follows the original essentially beat for beat, modifying the story only slightly in order to keep intact what was originally a brilliant film. And, truly, these films aren't as bad as all that. They frequently have good casts and directors who have a genuine love for the material. But classic films are classic because of serendipity more than planning. The right constellation of everything, from performance to score to pacing. And you just can't recapture that spark that makes a classic film timeless.

Hence, remaking films like "Romancing the Stone" "They Live" and, most idiotically, "Susperia" makes no sense. Even less than something like "Manchurian Candidate". Because these aren't "idea" films with plots and ideas that can be reexamined or reconstituted. These are all films which succeeded because of the unique charm of their creators. "Romancing" and "They Live" are imperfect, but the only reason anyone cares about them at all is because of the subtle humor and appealing lead performances of Douglas, Turner, Piper and David. They Live could really only be a Carpenter film, in that it walks a very very thin line between camp, outright comedy, and weirdo sci-fi. Its not really enough of any of those things to work as a strict comedy, or a serious sci-fi, or whatever. So what would a successful remake even look like?

Personally, I'd love to see someone go back and mine the neglected failures of the past for possible remakes. Films which are ALMOST good. Something like "Brainstorm" or "Lifeforce" which has some interesting but largely unexplored ideas. Start remaking those and we might actually find some worthwhile remakes hitting the market again.
This time get an actual blind lady.
by Gilkuliehe
Dec 4th, 2008
02:35:11 PM
To play the Meg Foster role. Man those eyes are creepy. On related news: Fuck the THEY LIVE remake. And stay the fuck away from PRINCE OF DARKNESS. I'd hate to live in a world where the entire JC's filmography has been remade.
If Ya Gotta Remake....
by ericinwisconsin
Dec 4th, 2008
02:36:01 PM
... Remake something that was crappy and FIX it! Remake Star Trek: The Motionless Picture. Remake Daredevil. Remake Roger Coreman movies, F'r Chrissake.
Ricky Gervais as Arthur
by Anna Valerious
Dec 4th, 2008
02:38:39 PM
Him and Meg Mullaley would be great. BUT, it doesn't compare to the "Critic" bit "Arthur 3: Revenge of the Liver" where he finds out he has liver disease. (looks at tongue depressors) "Don't look now, but someone's eaten all your popsicles! HA-HAAAA!"
Does this mean we get a remake of the porno "Romancing the Bone"
by guyofdoom
Dec 4th, 2008
03:16:54 PM
Bitch about these all you want...
by s00p3rm4n
Dec 4th, 2008
03:18:27 PM
But if you want them to stop happening, STOP WATCHING THEM. And tell studios that unless they realize that a sustainable and thriving film industry means taking risks on new talent and new stories, they will continue dwindling into insignificance while foreign countries' films put our youtube bukkake shows to the shame they so rightfully demand and deserve.
Are you nuts?! Doing ROMANCING STONE is great!!!
by Big Dumb Ape
Dec 4th, 2008
03:38:42 PM
Doing something with ROMANCING THE STONE, what was a two-film, 2/3 franchise for Fox that made them some okay coin, makes sense. But they shouldn't remake it, they should bring BACK Michael Douglas and Kathleen Turner and let them be older, so we can have fond feelings seeming them back on the screen together, even though they're older and their bones are creakier and their stunts will look a helluva lot less believable. But hey, that's what CGI is for!

As a storyline, I suggest a YOUNG MAN who comes to Douglas, now in retirement, to get his help finding his now lost Mom (Turner). Then they go to South America where the first film took place (bringing things full circle)... we toss in some action... Douglas and Young Guy find Turner, we then have the obvious revelation that everyone saw coming from a mile away that Young Guy is actually Douglas and Turner's kid, that Douglas never knew about (thus hopefully setting up future sequels with a newer, younger star if this goes over)... and just to make this box office secure for modern, summer teen audiences, the movie ends with them at some old South American ruins -- where they also get betrayed by guest star Danny DeVito -- which are actually hiding a UFO and aliens so we get a big SFX finale and--

Oh fuck. They made this already, didn't they? Okay, forget it then. Screw the remake.

Awwwwsome!
by Charlie_Allnut
Dec 4th, 2008
03:56:41 PM
I've been hoping for more 80's remakes! I just hope they get around to remaking Ark of the Sun God!
Thing remake - fucking insane..The Live..maybe worthwhile
by quantize
Dec 4th, 2008
03:58:51 PM
Carpenter's Thing is as near as it gets to a perfect piece of sci-fi horror..this simply should not be fucked with in any shape or form.. They Live however was a great idea only partly well executed by Carpenter..it really falls apart in the second half, if they could tighten up that shit there's real potential there..
I'M HERE TO MAKE GOOD MOVIES AND CHEW BUBBLE GUM
by g-ride9000
Dec 4th, 2008
04:13:42 PM
AND I'M ALL OUT OF GOOD MOVIES
Quantize
by Subtlety
Dec 4th, 2008
04:15:22 PM
Was thinking about this... after all, They Live is miles away from perfect... but I also don't really see where they could take the idea. Its actually such a simple, obvious allegory I don't think you could make it into a serious sci-fi film... then again, I don't know that it's really funny enough to be a comedy.

Really, as far as I'm concerned, the thing that makes it watchable and fun is the endearingly goofy Carpenter production, with the bluesy harmonica riff over and over, the ridiculously long and brutal ally fight, the silly-looking sunglasses, the catchphrases, the puppet aliens, and the general dark comedy ("What's wrong, baby?").

I don't think even careful planning could really recapture what made the original fun, but I also don't see much left unexplored at a conceptual level...
Continentalop, I disagree about "a million spec scripts"
by Big Dumb Ape
Dec 4th, 2008
04:23:32 PM
Continentalop, one of the benefits of the Digital Age is that more tools than ever (pro-level cameras now at a consumer level, better computers and graphic/sfx software, editing tools, etc) have become available to the average aspiring filmmaker who is willing to dig into his wallet and make an investment towards making his own little film and putting a personal dream of his on film. And overall, I support that concept and would love to see even MORE people going this route since I believe that whenever you give someone a chance to actually PROVE their creativity and ingenuity, good things can follow. Yes, you'll also get a lot of horrible stuff, too -- small films from people who clearly DON'T have any talent -- but when it comes to small independent films you get that now ANYWAY.

To be honest, speaking as a freelance writer, I sort of see this an extension of the Internet explosion, where (for example) you have web portals that give people dummy-proof tools to instantly create and upload a professional-looking blog, at which point the average sits back in his chair, they look at the final, slick looking blog online, and so now they believe they are a professional writer and every bit as good as the next person, or as good as any actual income-earning writer. So, in some regards it becomes a mix of personal ego and the fact we have so many modern tools that can make something look slick or professional.

But that's where I think the free market comes in (or it should come in) to weed out the good from the bad, not to mention the truly atrocious! And it should be the market that then allows the up-and-coming a chance to be seen and gain even more momentum.

When it comes to the "million spec scripts" floating around Hollwood, I just see weeding through them as simply the job of the script readers and low end producers and whoever, who generally do weed through them fairly fast. To be honest, it's not too hard to get only 10-20 pages into a script to realize just how horrible it is. Much like the Sundance entries you mentioned, sure, it may be time consuming to wade through them, but that's also part of the fun and frankly it is somebody's job. I mean, you can't say you're going to have an open film contest and then say "Yeah, but only film grads from USC can enter." Then it becomes so exclusive you lose the whole POINT of having an open competition and showcase for new talent.

So, I don't see the number of spec scripts as being the problem. In fact, I would argue that IF if you had a million spec scripts piled up on one side of a room versus only 10,000 on the other side, mathematically you still have better odds with the million of actually finding a newer, fresher idea worth buying/making or at least developing. The problem here -- as others have noted in this thread -- is that Hollywood producers just want to take the easiest way out. They figure if they do a remake it must have SOME pre-established marketability, and thus part of the job is already done for them. So, rather than looking for a new, fresh horror idea that could be a new, fresh film (or even franchise) you get a lazy producer who thinks people actually give a fuck about a remake of TERROR TRAIN or PROM NIGHT or some C-level shit like that which was fine for it's time, but certainly doesn't need to be remade. And when you start upscaling from there, that's when it becomes even lazier and more stupifying.

I mean, seriously, who the fuck thinks remaking ARTHUR is a good idea? It was a hit film...it's modern enough that if you released it today it would still stand up, it's in color and still looks fine... and most importantly of all, what MADE it such a big hit was the star performance of Dudley Moore, who was so perfect he got an Oscar nod and the performance of John Geilgud who DID win an Oscar. For crying out loud, remaking ARTHUR is fucking ridiculous on every level and further proof that Hollywood just is lazy and creatively bankrupt and SHOULD be pouring through those million spec scripts.

Need any more proof...
by p0llk4t
Dec 4th, 2008
04:34:55 PM
that Hollywood is creatively bankrupt? No balls too!
I think Hollywood's time is coming to an end
by successor
Dec 4th, 2008
04:47:45 PM
So let them keep remaking classics into shit. Sooner or later I think someone will come up with the next Citizen Kane or Star Wars or Casablanca right on their home computer and that will be it for Hollywood. Although I believe the studio system will always be around in one form or another, I think somebody will eventually make an original, great film right in their home and beat Hollywood at their own game. The technology is already there. It's just a matter of time and skill. And you know something, maybe that would be a good thing. A little revolution every now and then is good for art and culture. Maybe some little filmmaker in Peoria beating Hollywood at their own game is just what the industry needs to wake them up and make them realize that people won't keep buying shit indefinitely.
If remakes start flopping at the cinemas
by lfhlaw
Dec 4th, 2008
05:58:37 PM
Then i think studios will stop producing remakes. When they make money, they decided to keep going. So I refuse to go see re-makes of movies i've already seen in the Theaters. Eventually i'll catch them on DVD. Tell Studios with your wallet what you want.
No real point to Romancing the Stone
by MrD
Dec 4th, 2008
06:37:42 PM
The franchise has been dead for decades, and it was a quick (but good) cash in on Indy anyway. They'd be better off with a new adventure series than to try to ressurect this. They Live, OTOH, was a shitty film with an interesting premise, and The Thing was already a remake of a film of a classic story, which, like Body Snatchers, could probably be reinterpreted for the new generation.
No real point to Romancing the Stone
by MrD
Dec 4th, 2008
06:37:44 PM
The franchise has been dead for decades, and it was a quick (but good) cash in on Indy anyway. They'd be better off with a new adventure series than to try to ressurect this. They Live, OTOH, was a shitty film with an interesting premise, and The Thing was already a remake of a film of a classic story, which, like Body Snatchers, could probably be reinterpreted for the new generation.
Wow. Three more bad ideas.
by Hikaru Ichijo
Dec 4th, 2008
06:38:11 PM
I miss the old days when they just ripped off successful concepts. At least the con featured a certain amount of creativity back then.
They Live
by sewiz
Dec 4th, 2008
08:18:31 PM
Personally I don't dig on They Live as much as most around here. I think its a stellar idea, but I would love to see a serious take on it with a decent budget, and a real actor (Piper is an ass-kicker for sure, but he couldn't out act Lindsey Lohan - plus his mullet sucked).
Well said, Subtlety.
by Lord Haw Haw
Dec 4th, 2008
08:24:07 PM
They Live isn't high art, but it succeeded mightily in keeping me entertained and giving me a little food for thought. I don't know much more you can ask of a movie. Remaking They Live is truly a pointless exercise, moreso than just about any other re-whatever that's come down the pipe as of late. There is zero need to tweak the actors, story, or technology of the original. It was a damn-near-perfect blend of action, message, and cheese. What's the point of this remake? To render the aliens "cooler looking"? To redo the scene where Keith David gets wasted so that his killer can bust a cap in him O-Dog style? They Live is what it is, and that's not a bad thing. At the risk of using a bad pun, let it B. :-)
There are good remakes
by The Cine-eater
Dec 4th, 2008
11:42:51 PM
like The Thing, Body Snatchers, The Fly, Scareface etc but lately all we get is some cheap ass remake thats either just cashing in on a well known name or a pointless scene for scene copy (Red Dragon just so Hopkins can be in the trilogy) it seems to me that studios test out new directors with a remake and if it makes a profit no matter how bad it is then the director has a future, but then you get these new directors that just seem to do pointless remake after another because they can't create an original movie of there own.This trend will never stop as long as the movie breaks at least even.Hell a studio would make a 2 hour movie with nothing but a blank screen if it made money, they simply don't care about quality these days.I'd be interested to see what would happen if the original and the cheap ass remake were released in cinema's together, but knowing todays audiences unless its got a modern cast of OC types they won't go to the original.
THEY LIVE - one of the last...
by thecat
Dec 4th, 2008
11:52:16 PM
...great pieces of trash cinema. Any remake is gonna be just another CGI-filled piece of fucking shit.
Perfect idea
by The Cine-eater
Dec 4th, 2008
11:58:45 PM
Get the idiots who do these aweful Epic movie, Date movie rubbish to make about 5 remake movies (Remake the movie, Remake the movie 2, Not another remake movie, I know your remaking another remake movie and Oh kill me a reamke movie) and hopefully it will kill this trend for a few years.
Just a qestion to all the film geeks here...
by Citizin_insane
Dec 5th, 2008
12:21:16 AM
how do you feel about song covers?
Song Covers
by The Cine-eater
Dec 5th, 2008
02:32:06 AM
Same as remakes the good ones are rare but most are pointless popchart rubbish that slaughter the original, Ok how would you feel if a writer rewrote a classic book (would have to be in the public domain)almost word for word and then tried to cash in on it stating it needed rewriting for a new generation.
WHY? (except Russell Brand as Arthur)
by JoeSixPack
Dec 5th, 2008
02:42:20 AM
All of those remake ideas sound terrible. Why remake movies that are perfectly fine to begin with? The only reason I am halfway for an Arthur remake is the idea of Russell Brand playing Arthur. That is an inspired piece of casting.
Tallboy66
by Mr Gorilla
Dec 5th, 2008
05:56:51 AM
Uh, yes, it is considered a classic. Indeed it is. And I'll bet money that the remake will be considered a turd.
Paul Benedict just died
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Dec 5th, 2008
07:37:18 AM
He was the Jeffersons' neighbor, and was on Sesame Street.
Lol Successor - I remember people saying Blair Witch
by JackRabbitSlim
Dec 5th, 2008
08:56:38 AM
There were a lot of people on these boards proclaiming the death of the studios when Blair Witch made 150 mil on a 40k budget. Now, 10 years later - what was Dark Knight's budget? 200 mil? The revolution is still being televised and sold for 10.50 at the 8:30 and 9:05 showings.
JackRabbitSlim, did YouTube exist 10 years
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Dec 5th, 2008
09:16:25 AM
ago? If so it was in its infancy. Today Blair Witch would be a made for You Tube movie. I kept waiting for that movie to get scary, and then finally I see the closing credits. Thank goodness I only rented the DVD. I don't see how that movie made any money.
REMAKE 80'S PORN!!!!!!
by mrfan
Dec 5th, 2008
09:19:12 AM
Some of those need updating.
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