Home Cool News Coaxial Reviews Zone Chat Contact Us Sign in

Talkbacks

Viggo was awesome in Carlitos Way
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Dec 3rd, 2008
10:17:11 AM
nuff said
He is Viggo, you are like the buzzing of flies to him
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Dec 3rd, 2008
10:18:16 AM
I am Yanosh!
Viggy, Viggy, Viggy....
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Dec 3rd, 2008
10:19:14 AM
you have been a bad Monkey!
I know whats wrong
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Dec 3rd, 2008
10:20:00 AM
he's suffering from Carpathian kitten loss.
SLIME HIM
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Dec 3rd, 2008
10:20:35 AM
that is all....
no wait....got one more
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Dec 3rd, 2008
10:22:05 AM
HE IS VIGGO, YOU ARE LIKE THE BUZZING OF FLIES TO HIM...did I already say that?
How bout.....
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Dec 3rd, 2008
10:23:23 AM
something about carpathian kitten loss. I'm going insane talking to myself
Oh no....she cleaned.....
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Dec 3rd, 2008
10:25:51 AM
Careful,or Viggo will send Yanosh....GHOST NANNY!!!!!
Oh no....she cleaned.....
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Dec 3rd, 2008
10:25:52 AM
Careful,or Viggo will send Yanosh....GHOST NANNY!!!!!
This is a Ghostbusters 2 talkback right????
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Dec 3rd, 2008
10:27:39 AM
How is it, I'm here in the year 1989 talking to myself?????
probably my favorite working actor
by m_reporter
Dec 3rd, 2008
10:27:43 AM
I love Viggo, his work with Cronenberg is brilliant and he was by far the best thing in Apaloosa.
The thing about LOTR...
by yodalovesyou
Dec 3rd, 2008
10:27:54 AM
It's really slow and boring until Viggo Mortensen turns up and shifts the whole thing into a different gear.
Diapers... fuckin' diapers man!
by Mr Gorilla
Dec 3rd, 2008
10:31:48 AM
Viggo was a star ever since Carlito's Way.
They could have Aragorn hunting Golem.
by rev_skarekroe
Dec 3rd, 2008
10:33:44 AM
That's in between The Hobbit and LotR. Can Jackson use the material from Unfinished Tales?
Sounds like even the studio doesn't know when The Road
by Big Jim
Dec 3rd, 2008
10:49:50 AM
will be released. If more time means perfecting the film, then I'm ok with it. But I still want to see a trailer; or at least a teaser. 1/2 Blood Prince was also supposed to be released this year but pushed back to next and we've had 1 teaser and 2 trailers.
GodDAMN, I thought the election was over...
by Shut the Fuck up Donny
Dec 3rd, 2008
10:50:24 AM
I suspect Capone's interviews will be no longer than two pages come January.

That being said, it was a good interview. Viggo is a good actor that doesn't get overused. He and his agent are smart in keeping him in good, dynamic roles, but never overexposing him.

Viggo
by jebuslovesyou666
Dec 3rd, 2008
10:54:24 AM
is a class act. and seems like really great guy in general. I can't wait for The Road.
Ugh
by malpaso
Dec 3rd, 2008
10:56:27 AM
Another Bush=Hitler tirade. Enough of this BS, ok?
What the fuck is the "Similarion"?
by Dwide Shrewd
Dec 3rd, 2008
11:01:38 AM
Oh, the Silmarillion. Viggo Mortensen is too fucking cool.
Well done, Capone!!!
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Dec 3rd, 2008
11:09:05 AM
Great interview; Viggo is the man. I share his disappointment with the status of THE ROAD. While I'm all for Hillcoat making sure he "gets it right", I hope there aren't other behind-the-scenes forces at work.
That was a great interview, Capone
by DKT
Dec 3rd, 2008
11:14:52 AM
He seems like a very thoughtful guy. I'd forgotten about him in some of those earlier movies.
Please don't let The Road suck.
by HoboCode
Dec 3rd, 2008
11:15:59 AM
Please.
As for THE HOBBIT and bridge movie...
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Dec 3rd, 2008
11:16:19 AM
...I would love to see Viggo come back in some capacity. I think his performance as Aragorn was one of the main reasons why Jackson's LOTR worked so well.

However, I just watched HELLBOY II the other day. I'm afraid to say that I'm a little worried now about which Guillermo del Toro will be showing up in THE HOBBIT director's chair. Creature design aside, HELLBOY II was a disaster and a large step back from something as accomplished as PAN'S LABYRINTH.

The Road....
by Karl Childers
Dec 3rd, 2008
11:16:53 AM
The only movie that was on my must see list for this latter part of 2008.
Viggo's a pimp.
by HoboCode
Dec 3rd, 2008
11:16:54 AM
I saw some of his Native American photography at a gallery here in DC. Very talented guy on many levels.
Viggo sounds...
by D o o d
Dec 3rd, 2008
11:26:08 AM
boring and arrogant!
People have got to stop mentioning Hitler and Bush in the same s
by aversiontherapy2
Dec 3rd, 2008
11:39:30 AM
It just sucks the credibility out of anything you're trying to say. I happen to agree with most of what he says on the political front but even I can't help rolling my eyes when Hitler comes up in the same breath as Bush, even if it's not a direct comparison. Best avoid on all counts.
The whole section where Gandalf and Aragorn
by Leopold Scotch
Dec 3rd, 2008
11:41:41 AM
search for and catch Gollum would be pretty kick ass.
see I'm used to
by Bloo
Dec 3rd, 2008
11:50:17 AM
the Bush/Hitler comparisons. I don't like it, I think it's stupid and irresponsiable, but I didn't like the "if Obama doesn't get elected something is fishy" comment, it was what 52, 48..53, 47 spilt something like that..It just means that America is very polorized right now and the elction could have easily swung the other way. It doesn't mean there is some vast republican conspiracy to keep Obama out of the White House. It's almost, but not quite, as bad as Perot in '92 accusing the GOP of bugging his home and trying to sabatouge his daughter's wedding

that all said, I agree alot with what Viggo was saying, and I think he really is an amazing actor

Excellent interview, Capone
by GreatWhiteNoise
Dec 3rd, 2008
11:55:07 AM
Nice to hear from an actor with some substantive things to say every now and then. Well done.
I can lay you out and fill your mouth with...
by Darth Macchio
Dec 3rd, 2008
12:13:54 PM
your Mother's feces.....or we can talk.

My absolute favorite line in "The Prophecy" (the one with angels, not mutant bears) next to The Walken's line "You should join us...you get to kill...all day and night!"

Mortensen is a great/huge talent and brought such grace to the character of Aragorn...absolute pitch-perfect casting. Eatern Promises was excellent in that it accomplished the realism guys like Greengrass are after without having the idiot use of shaky-cam inducing motion-sickness or general 'wtf just happened' in the casual viewer. Cronenberg is also a huge talent (I still love his version of The Fly). These guys effortlessly put story and character above their own egos. Either that or they have no traditional ego and just make great movies...either way...keep them coming!!!

Grret interview...
by Right Bastard
Dec 3rd, 2008
12:20:34 PM
...but I still want to hear about what it was like for him to be married to Excene from X.
Wow
by Fievel
Dec 3rd, 2008
12:40:36 PM
Great interview. I didn't realize Mortensen was so conversational - almost asking as many questions as he was asked. He comes across much differently on nighttime talk shows.
Look at me man!!!
by Reckoner
Dec 3rd, 2008
12:51:25 PM
F**kin DIAPERS man!! Kill me, man, just f**ckin kill me... I can't walk, I can't hump!!! I remembered him from Young Guns II, and when I saw him in Carlito's Way I was blown away by his talent. The accent and his total self-hatred for being a rat and paralyzed. Awesome small role, and he brought so much to it.
These deleted Lordy scenes he talks of...
by pokadoo
Dec 3rd, 2008
12:52:46 PM
How come no on my DVD? What's the big idea Jackson? You can show me a cobbler spending 8 years of his life linking chain mail, but no deleted scenes? I'd love to see the footage of Liv Tyler showing up at Helms Deep, and the other woman fighting in the caves below. Their must be lots of other cool scenes. I'm hoping some scretly filmed Scouring of the Shire footage is released some day. That's like the Squid of Lord of the Rings.
So did he show you his balls?
by Stuntcock Mike
Dec 3rd, 2008
12:59:02 PM
Someone had to say it. Bring on "The Road!"
Vigo was pitch-perfect casting???
by moondoggy2u
Dec 3rd, 2008
01:03:05 PM
I gues you havent actually READ Lord of the Rings, huh?

Don't get me wrong, I love the movie and think that, mostly, vigo does a fine job with the part as written. However, the operative phrase is "as written." If Peter and Co. had actually been looking for someone to fill the role of Aragorn as depicted by Tolkien, Vigo wouldn't have even made it to the casting couch or whatever.

IndyCollector
by HoboCode
Dec 3rd, 2008
01:05:03 PM
What's funny about that? You just wish you were banging Denny's hot tongue-studed wife.
By the way, a "quiet, understated performance."
by moondoggy2u
Dec 3rd, 2008
01:08:43 PM
Pretty much describes every role Vigo has ever been in. Hell, he's whispering for 80% of LOTR's Aragorn dialogue!
Excellent interview Capone
by Genre_Baby
Dec 3rd, 2008
01:11:12 PM
I've been a fan of Viggo's since watching his Satan steal the Prophecy from Walken back in 1995. Excellent interview. Thanks.
THE ROAD
by BobParr
Dec 3rd, 2008
01:13:13 PM
I read the book and it was difficult to get through. Very dark, depressing stuff. I can understand why the studio would not release this during the holiday season.
"criminally overlooked"
by Mullah Omar
Dec 3rd, 2008
01:37:26 PM
Everybody who uses that phrase should be incarcerated until they agree to stop the meaningless hyperbole.
Actually...
by Darth Macchio
Dec 3rd, 2008
01:50:51 PM
I have read Lord of the Rings (my favorite book in fact) and if we were going purely from the written word, nothing in Jackson's movie trilogy would be redeemable for the most part...but as filmed, can you think of someone who would have done more justice to the role given to him? There are others who would have done a good job to be sure...but Viggo brought something great and subtle to the portrayal...in my opinion of course.
Every time I read an interview
by sean bean
Dec 3rd, 2008
01:52:16 PM
or hear a story about Viggo he comes across as an awesome guy. Amazing actor, too. Damn him!
The Hobbit
by Samus Aran
Dec 3rd, 2008
02:04:22 PM
Why are people so willing to accept the mutilation of "The Hobbit"? First we have a director that made a good movie, but demonstrated that his style is completely different from Tolkien. Then this same director has been quoted as saying that he hates all things Tolkien, and now there is talk about including Aragorn in The Hobbit, thus showing a collective greater love for Viggo Mortensen than for JRR Tolkien.

Why do you people even watch these Tolkien movies if you dont hold the original stories as sacred on even the smallest level? If you like Viggo Mortensen so much then go watch Hidalgo or History of Violence. Why is your chance to see Viggo Mortensen again more important than getting Tolkien's "The Hobbit" exactly as he intended it? Why not throw Boba Fett in there as well then if you just like to see cameos. I am fully prepared to watch Guillermo Del Toro destroy Tolkien, I will not be caught off guard. I liked Pan's Labyrinth enough, But that is not what The Hobbit should be like. Please show some respect.

I have loved this book since I was old enough to love any book. Guillermo Del Toro is just the flavor of the month. He's like a pretty whore. Let's fuck him and be on our way. Well with Pan's Labyrinth, we already fucked and paid him, so can we go home now? Why do we keep dragging that pretty whore around and introducing the whore to our parents. Do you people really want to marry that whore? How about we marry someone with more substance?

NOW THAT IS HOW YOU CONDUCT AN INTERVIEW
by BringingSexyBack
Dec 3rd, 2008
02:10:43 PM
Great job. BTW Viggo sounds like an insufferable prick. What an asshole!!!!!
"Good" is the hardest film to ever fuck'n google.
by kikuchiyoboy
Dec 3rd, 2008
02:14:28 PM
Yup
Samus...
by BilboRing
Dec 3rd, 2008
02:15:00 PM
Chill out. I LOVE the LOTR movies but they do not hold a candle to the books. Of course they all have to be "Hollywood-ized" in some form or another. If they followed the books all the way, we wouldhave to watch 10 movies and they would all be rather boring. Great as books. Dull as movies w/o being made Hollywood. I think Jackson respects the books a ton. I think picking Del Toro was a great idea. And Jackson and that woman who did the storyline on LOTR will be there for The Hobbit. You need to relax. There has never been a movie that was better than the book it was based on. Wait until A Song of Ice and Fire is brought to HBO. No way is it going to be close to the books, which truly are amazing works.
Mr. Nice Gaius, Hellboy II
by yomomma
Dec 3rd, 2008
02:25:27 PM
What movie were you watching? I loved Hellboy II, everyone I have spoken with who saw the movie loved it, it is at 88% on Rotten Tomatoes. Maybe you're just an idiot?
BilboRing
by Samus Aran
Dec 3rd, 2008
02:27:38 PM
Well I am not really criticizing the LOTR movies. They were not perfect by any means, but they were a hell of a lot better than I worried they would be. I did not expect them to be verbatim like the books, at least not in pacing. I only expected them to match visually the intentions of tolkien, and in many ways I think they did just that. However in many ways I also think that they didn't think they match his visual intentions. My opinion.

I also never cared for it when the movies presumed to show parts of the story which were never directly present in the books. I felt these scenes dispelled the precious dark and ominous tone of the story. If Del Toro puts Aragorn in the Hobbit, it will be nothing more than fanfare, and fanfare to the most shallow of fans at that (you know, the fans that barely were aware of The Lord of the Rings before the movies came out).

I think Del Toro is going to interject his own personal style into the Hobbit very heavily. He has expressed a lack of respect for Tolkien in the past, and I see no reason to just hope that he will change his mind once he gets started on this movie. I picture a bunch of Tim Burton swirlies everywhere, and Trolls that dont look like trolls, Goblins that dont look like goblins, and most horribly a Smaug that doesnt look like a dragon. Everything will be "Guillermoized". I pray that I am wrong- I really would love one last good movie in my lifetime to look forward to. I like movies.

kikuchiyoboy, google
by yomomma
Dec 3rd, 2008
02:27:42 PM
Google: Good nazi viggo Not that hard...
Smaug with 17 eyes
by yomomma
Dec 3rd, 2008
02:29:47 PM
And steampunk dwarves.
A Boba Fett Cameo in The Hobbit?
by monorail77
Dec 3rd, 2008
02:29:49 PM
That's a fuckin great idea! Make this happen NOW! Thanks, Samus Aran (love your screen name BTW).
yomomma
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Dec 3rd, 2008
02:30:22 PM
88% on Rotten Tomatoes???!!! Oh my! Whatever am I going to do with MY opinion?!

Dude, I enjoyed the first HELLBOY but I was greatly disappointed by HELLBOY II. It's as simple as that. Sorry if you can't deal.

monorail77
by Samus Aran
Dec 3rd, 2008
02:33:25 PM
Is there any book or movie that is sacred to you that I can piss on?
Samus Aran
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Dec 3rd, 2008
02:47:32 PM
I think the general consensus is that del Toro and Jackson don't have any plans to include Aragorn in THE HOBBIT. A cameo by him would be reserved for the second "bridge" movie only - the one that's supposed to cover various events including the 60 year gap between HOBBIT and LOTR.

Also, I think del Toro has already gone on record to clarify what he said about Tolkien. Apparently, he was greatly misunderstood as he admitted having difficulty reading and getting into LOTR when he was young. However, THE HOBBIT is supposedly one of his favorite books.

That being said, I am a little worried about his style and how it may or may not clash with the look and feel of Jackson's LOTR. Granted, THE HOBBIT is a much lighter affair but it should still exist in the same world.

Mabye....
by klinteastwood
Dec 3rd, 2008
02:52:13 PM
Kucinich can play Bilbo Baggains in the Hobbit
Mr. Nice Gaius
by Samus Aran
Dec 3rd, 2008
03:01:25 PM
Well that is a little comforting to hear about Del Toro clarifying his view on The Hobbit, however, I am not sure if I buy it. I'll look into exactly how he worded it. But it sounds like backpedling to me, because indeed he must realize how damming his words were if he wants support, and he just may have tried to talk his way out of his own foot in the mouth.

As I have recently understood it, that "Bridge" movie is not going to be the story which had been rumored. Instead the second movie may be more like how I personally was hoping it to be; the second part of a two part Hobbit movie, covering only "The Hobbit". This recent news was good news for me, because I cannot stand the whole idea of this "bridge" movie. It is almost as idiotic as if Mel Gibson decided to write and direct "The Passion II: The Continuing Heroic Adventures of Jesus". These books have been written. Go ahead and make movies about them, but don't start rewriting them and adding shit from your own damn heads.

I understand that there may have been actual story written by tolkien that would be the basis for the "bridge" movie. That calms down my angered up blood some.

Anyways, Mr. Nice Gaius, I'm glad that you seem to have a similar concern as me. Maybe everything will turn out great. I studied up on Peter Jackson before I saw "Fellowship" by watching Heavenly Creatures, and I had NO faith in his ability to deliver a good Tolkien movie. Maybe the same thing will happen after all. I am hoping for the best most beautiful movie I have ever seen, and I am preparing for the biggest slap in the face I have received in a movie theater.

The Hobbit is simply my favorite story.

Samus Aran
by Fievel
Dec 3rd, 2008
03:18:58 PM
Dude... Tolkien intended his books to be books, and that is exactly what they'll be forever and ever, amen. Get off your high horse about the movies and realize that they're only movies - they'll never change the printed word of the books. If it's not how you envisioned it, then fine - read the books again. Everyone knows that the "second" Hobbit movie is there to bridge the first movie to the LOTR movies utilizing Tolkien's other writings of the subject. Aragorn's appearance in that makes complete sense. The books are always going to be the books. Chill.
Samus
by jamestewart007
Dec 3rd, 2008
03:19:00 PM
According to an interview I read with PJ and Del Toro. DT has had an idea of how to do Smaug for years, even before PJ did LOTR. So it has been at least that long since he wanted to do the film. If he hated Tolkien so much, why would he want to do it back then? He was crushed when LOTR came out, thinking he would never get the chance to make his movie. He loves the book. Another thing to keep in mind is that PJ will be taking part in the production of the film, which should include character design, I think. So even tough PJ's films were Hollywooded up a fair bit, he still managed to bring Middle Earth alive visually. I don't think the Hobbit will be totally butchered. And I am going to hold on to the hope that it will be better than the LOTR films.
TOLKIEN DOES NOT EXIST IN JACKSON'S DOJO
by BringingSexyBack
Dec 3rd, 2008
03:31:41 PM
Jackson took LOTR and perfected it. Viggo's Aragorn was great. The man has big balls!!!
TORO IN JAPANESE IS TUNA
by BringingSexyBack
Dec 3rd, 2008
03:34:03 PM
Guillermo of the tuna.
WE ARE ALL GRATEFUL TO VIGGO'S SON
by BringingSexyBack
Dec 3rd, 2008
03:36:20 PM
It's because of him that Viggo took the role of Aragorn. And thanks to his wife for birthing him too.
JASON STATHAM AS ARAGORN IN THE HOBBIT
by BringingSexyBack
Dec 3rd, 2008
03:40:13 PM
And Burt Reynolds as King Theoden, with Ray Liotta as Wormtongue!!! That would make a great movie!
BringingSexyBack = Uwe?
by Fievel
Dec 3rd, 2008
03:48:10 PM
Book Loyalists
by King Sweyn Forkbeard
Dec 3rd, 2008
03:48:55 PM
Seriously, stop treating the books like they're some sacred text. They're (mostly) good, but far from great.

The Hobbit is twee and almost Blytonish in style, and would be greatly enhanced by a darker take. LOTR is better, but would have benefited from a more rigorous editing process. Jackson trimmed the fat from the storylines quite nicely.

If Del Toro and Jackson can enhance and improve Tolkein's original story in the way the film Trilogy did, then so much the better.

Del Toro and Jackson versus Tolkien...
by Darth Macchio
Dec 3rd, 2008
04:01:26 PM
Well...I have to agree to an extent that Guillermo might not be the best choice for The Hobbit. I think its because he is so firmly entrenched in the world of fantasy (either horror fantasy or whatever) that he cannot possibly come to this project without his own vision. Now, don't get me wrong, the man is an incredible visionary..for his original works but as someone jokingly referenced, I don't want to see a 17 eyed Smaug that looks more like that weird 2 headed bullfrog dragon from Willow. And I think everybody knows (even Viggo) that he's not going to be in The Hobbit. I was really hoping Del Toro would pass on Hobit and do The Deathly Hollows as I'd love to see his take on Rowling's universe (where his somewhat 'whimsical' take on fantasy might be more welcome than Tolkien's world).

As for Jackson and LotR...hate that he turned the Dwarf into comic relief, hate that Legolas was some shield-surfing super-ninja, hate that we had to have the story inversion of Aerwyn coming to rescue Bilbo from the Naz'Ghul (sp?), hate many things that were purely invented from Jackson's mind to fill in time in a story not his own. But somehow, I've separated the story in the book from the story in the movie and they both work on different levels for me.

To me, Jackson can best be judged by what he truly loves...King Kong, which outside of effects, pretty much sucked. So I think LotR was more of a combination of hundreds of people all dedicated to making something more than profit. To get so many people working on a project in the context of "love" and not "job" or "obligation" makes for great cinema given even slightly better than average talent.

I'm not saying these guys suck...not at all...but they have a tendency to get in a little too deep into their own creativity perhaps and loose sight of the larger story...one they did not create. I don't know...hard to articulate where I'm going with this. At first I was mad it wasn't gonna be Jackson and then I saw Kong and was actually relieved it wasn't going to be him. Now with DelToro and after seeing Hellboy 2 (which is excellent but not the remote direction to go with Hobbit) I'm worried we'll get a thrashed version. Now, this second movie they're all talking about? If not taken from Tolkien's original work (which seems unlikely given all the legal stuff with the Tolkien estate and his grandson, etc) means we're going to get a pure DelToro or Jackson version of the events and let's face it...they are not up to the task...but then who is? Nolan? Doubted...Ridley? Hardly..Miller? Meh...Aronofsky? Raimi?! Favreau?

aragorn, jackson, del toro, tolkien, etc
by LegoKenobi
Dec 3rd, 2008
04:55:10 PM
as someone who's adored the LOTR series since i was old enough to read, i was dubious when viggo was tapped for aragorn, but i was happily proved wrong on that count. it's easy to pick on the stuff that jackson got wrong in the movies, but let's not forget the stuff he did oh-so RIGHT: the initial view of hobbiton *still* gives me chills and tears of joy. gandalf rocks. the epic battles and the scale of them was perfect. the feel that middle earth was really OLD... moria... the balrog.... it goes on an on. i think with jackson and del toro working together, we could be quite happy yet again. and if they delve into the appendices to show aragorn hunting gollum, i'm all for it. viggo IS aragorn, word
I actually love PJ's LOTR
by moondoggy2u
Dec 3rd, 2008
05:04:57 PM
Sure, there are some obvious problems, such as the extremely lazy overuse of the reluctant hero character arc (to the point that Aragorn was completely different), overuse of slow-motion, and the horrendous editing that cropped up in the Return of the King.

That said, there is so much that is great in LOTR that I couldn't even begin to list them: the casting choices, the costuming, most of the effects, the scenery, the music, and the sheer detail is just astounding in this thing.

Also, count me as a supporter of Del Toro for The Hobbit
by moondoggy2u
Dec 3rd, 2008
05:05:48 PM
Samus - piss away!
by monorail77
Dec 3rd, 2008
05:38:14 PM
One of my favourite book trilogies is The Deptford Trilogy by Robertson Davies (Fifth Business, The Manticore, World of Wonders). They are lyrical tales that begin in a small Canadian town and follow the extraordinary lives of some folks that grew up there. I can say, without equivocation, that the addition of Boba Fett into any filmed versions of these books would be fuckin awesome.
Peter Jackson's GIANT FANGED FORESKINS
by BurnHollywood
Dec 3rd, 2008
07:37:11 PM
...Starring Viggo Mortenson as the only human who can reason and interact with those disgusting fanged foreskins that sucked Andy Serkis' head off in KING KONG.

It's kind of a "fish-out-of-water" story set in New York's Greenwich Village, with a whole lotta laughs.

CAPONE: "WE SAW YOUR BALLS ON THE BIG SCREEN"
by BringingSexyBack
Dec 3rd, 2008
07:45:49 PM
Viggo: "They look better in real life."

*Unzips pants*

if jackson had filmed the books word for word
by slappy jones
Dec 3rd, 2008
08:13:45 PM
they would have been terrible.
I aint saying word for word...
by moondoggy2u
Dec 3rd, 2008
09:06:16 PM
Just, you know...have the characters be the same. Thats all..
CALL LINDELOF NOW! VIGGO!!!
by Jumping Windows
Dec 3rd, 2008
09:40:03 PM
Viggo Mortensen, you are hereby christened Roland of Gilead. Please call Lindelof and tell him that the Dark Tower movie will be a surefire hit thanks to your (type)casting.
GOOD sounds like something I'd like.
by CherryValance
Dec 3rd, 2008
09:54:01 PM
I guess I'll probably have to catch it on DVD eventually. But that was a great interview, Capone. Good job just letting him talk like that. Another person might have kept jumping in and ruined some of those awesome winding answers.
OT: concerning Rudolph
by STLost
Dec 3rd, 2008
10:04:36 PM
which was on CBS tonight. They had been advertising it was going to be restored and in HD. But it wasn't in HD in the St. Louis area. Anyone see it in HD?
No blood for oil
by Chuck_Chuckwalla
Dec 3rd, 2008
10:16:52 PM
Not that I totally disagree with this sentiment but I wonder how he would respond to the fact that in these eight years we haven't taken a drop of oil. Viggo, I may not completely agree with you but that fight in Eastern Promises was one of the most ballsy things I've seen an actor do.
Man I dont wanna wait for The Road...
by Dogmatic
Dec 4th, 2008
01:05:37 AM
That book was amazing....I can't wait to see it envisioned upon a screen. Heart-wrenching stuff.
Lookin forward to Del Toro's Smaug
by crazybubba
Dec 4th, 2008
01:46:50 AM
Tone Loc should do his voice.No seriously think about it, Loc sounds like he's been smokin a pack of cigarettes a day since the 3rd grade, isn't that a perfect for a fire breathing dragon.

My main problem with 3rd installment of LOTR was all the crying drove me up all wall. Del Toro if you read this "NO More crying hobbits pleaase" There's no crying in the shiar.

are you calling me a clown? Do I look like a clown to you? Do I amuse you? No ...No ...its just the story you told...you know it was funny.

Book vs. Movie Aragorn
by emvan
Dec 4th, 2008
01:47:17 AM
It's true that they are fundamentally different characters. What's not often appreciated, though, is that the reluctant-hero story arc given to the movie version is a direct consequence of the necessary simplifying of the back story.

The book's Aragorn is regarded (by himself and others) as the heir of Elendil, a historical figure of immense stature. That he is also therefore the heir of Elendil's son Isildur is pretty much ignored. That Isildur ever possessed the Ring is a secret known only to a handful of the Wise (because Sauron was defeated in a challenge combat rather than in battle), and his failure to destroy it is not a big part of Middle-earth history and does not dwell heavily on Aragorn's mind.

The movie needs to simplify the logic of Aragorn's claim to the throne and thus removes all references to Arnor in the North, and the separate Southern line of Anarion. Isildur is widely known to have taken the Ring and is scorned for his weakness in not destroying it.

All of these changes work seamlessly together. Sauron is defeated in a big battle because that's going to be much more exciting to watch, and that also makes the history of the Ring much better-known to the denizens of Middle-Earth and thus the Ring is an even more potent talisman. And Isildur is turned into such a famous fuck-up that his ignominy dwarfs the glory of his father, and that in turn completely alters Aragorn's sense of himself and his destiny. And that yields a character with a story arc that plays better on the screen than the supremely confident one of the book would have.

So the revision of the character was not just the lazy adoption of a cliched story structure to placate audiences. It was deeply considered and ultimately very effective.
i wish there was some kind of edit feature on this tb posts
by crazybubba
Dec 4th, 2008
01:49:20 AM
Chuck_Chuckwalla
by Sgt.Steiner
Dec 4th, 2008
02:00:46 AM
Give'em time. The Major oil companies only started negotiating contracts with the Iraqi Oil Ministry earlier this year. I would enjoy a "Godfather II"-type sequel to "Eastern Promises", about maintaining power.
I agree, emvan
by TheHumanBeingAndFish
Dec 4th, 2008
02:24:30 AM
the book-Aragorn to movie-Aragorn is one of the better book-to-movie changes, and Viggo does it fantastically. BTW, another book-to-movie change that worked really well in my mind, in part thank to an excellent performance, is Boromir. Book-Boromir's "sin" is his pride that ultimately leads to his doom. Movie-Boromir's sin is his despair. It works so much better. (Gimli, Denethor, and a whole bunch of other characters fared less well.) _______ Anyway, very cool interview, and it does make me want to see both "Good" and "Appalooza".
Bravo Viggo
by christian66
Dec 4th, 2008
02:33:26 AM
This is a smart erudite man. And he couldn't be more right about the bullshit of this country leading to Bush's illegal invasion.
The Road (to nowhere)
by criticalbliss
Dec 4th, 2008
03:02:19 AM
The only way to make it a good film is to change the story. The Road, like No Country for Old Men, was incredibly flawed in terms of structure--a common issue in his novels barely masked by his minimalist writing. He is absolutely not the greatest writer ever. The Road? Lord, how many times does he need to hit the same note over and over again? There is a certain monotonous quality to his writing--some nice metaphors here and there, but didactic sentences, poor flow and, often, a lack of economy in terms of plot. Everyone speaks in the same clipped voice. There is a lack of internalization and response which deadens his narrative. Basically, he's a ham, a miserablist writer. For the semi-emo crowd, I can understand the woe-is-me appeal, but after a while it deadens the soul. The Road: "The world was grey; dust and ash everywhere. He looked at the boy. I'm scared, the boy said. I know. The night was black. Oh, God. God. I hate you, God. There was dust and ash everywhere. I dreamed about a penguin, the boy said. I know. I'm scared. Me too. The road was black. THE END."
Viggo
by criticalbliss
Dec 4th, 2008
03:59:30 AM
He's a better bad guy than a good guy (Eastern Promises notwithstanding). I felt he was bland in LOTR. I've liked him everywhere else. Though he's a whiny liberal bitch to be sure.
The super-ninja elves stuff was a fair extrapolation,
by Dingbatty
Dec 4th, 2008
05:12:15 AM
given the elves are described as walking across ropes as if they were strolling down the street, among other instances of preternatural grace.

Now, the ludicrous number of tumbling skulls, that was silly.

Viggo as aragorn
by London_is_dead85
Dec 4th, 2008
05:14:41 AM
He was a lot better than stuart townsend would of been. So happy PJ changed his mind at the last minute. Interesting to hear viggos comments, sounds like if aragorn was in the bridge film it might be more a love story for him...
As flawed as LOTR was delToro worries me
by Knugen
Dec 4th, 2008
06:44:48 AM
A LOT of missed opportunities in LOTR (no rangers, no battle of Lorien, pointless Aragorn filler), but del Toro's work is a superficial display of cool props and nerd sex.
I give Viggo credit
by Abominable Snowcone
Dec 4th, 2008
07:36:45 AM
He came to Cleveland on November 3 with Dennis Kucinich for the sole purpose of making a two-minute speech encouraging people at a concert to vote the next day. I'll say it again: He came to Cleveland to do that.
Capone, we're geeks
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Dec 4th, 2008
07:44:14 AM
We know Viggo played The Devil in The Prophecy. You don't have to baby us. You can either treat us like geeks, or have you mouth filled with your mother's feces.
maybe he was trying out for Browns QB
by just pillow talk
Dec 4th, 2008
07:52:54 AM
It's a possibility Abom....
criticalbliss
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Dec 4th, 2008
09:09:47 AM
Just out of curiosity, have you read any McCarthy beyond THE ROAD and NCFOM? Because those two books are, without a doubt, his most "reader friendly". There is a reason why McCarthy is held in such high regard and you sound like someone who hasn't scratched the surface of his heavier body of work.

Quote: "...after a while it deadens the soul."

That particular description is most appropriate when you consider the nature of the world THE ROAD takes place in and the fact that the world, for all intents and purposes, is in fact dead.

Samus...
by morGoth
Dec 4th, 2008
11:29:01 AM
...please provide the quote where Jackson says he "hates all things Tolkien." Good lord, you come off like, like...well, Ringbearer9!
Emvan, a quibble...
by morGoth
Dec 4th, 2008
11:35:32 AM
...while I mostly agree with your movie-Aragorn assessment, I don't see where the book-Aragorn is "supremely confident." Recall the scene where the Fellowship is preparing to leave Rivendell; Aragorn is extremely dejected and downcast and who wouldn't be in his place! He frequently has misgivings about how he thinks he's mucked up things after the fall of Gandalf. It isn't until after Helm's Deep, the arrival of the Rangers and the sons of Elrond (man, really missed that in the movie!)and taking the Path's of the Dead that he really gets his moxy up, if you take my meaning. Anyway, enjoyed reading your thoughts on the subject.
Jackson's LotR was amazingly successfull...
by morGoth
Dec 4th, 2008
11:48:33 AM
...in just about every metric that could be applied. Without starting a very long list to illustrate, let me just point out one that succeeded beyond this longtime Tolkien fans wildest dreams. Jackson took a pretty complex story and rendered it totally understandable to the vast majority of un-read movie fans. I'm literally talking about "Joe Six-pack (no, not the one from the elections!)" in this case. I've had folks ask me pretty detailed and pointed questions about the LotR back story just based on what they had seen in the movie. A stunning achievement for a feat most deemed an impossible task. Bakshi sure failed and I cringe at the thought of how Boorman's single movie (y'know, the one that ended up being Excalibur) portrayal would've turned out. C'mon people, get over yourselves and give the man the credit he so richly deserves. Here's an honest (and true) PJ quote: "I may not make the Lord of the Rings but I will make one helluva movie!" Amen to that Peter. It amazes me to this day how some quibble over the proportionally tiny amount of things he got wrong when compared to the whole. What, have we decided to do an anti-Cole Porter and accentuate the negative instead of the positive?
These friggin pretentious actors and their politics...
by Retrace
Dec 4th, 2008
12:09:22 PM
They get paid millions to pretend to be someone else for a couple months and come out of their estates once in a while to spew political drivel upon the unknowing and ill informed masses. Please....shup up and strap on a sword and prance about the woods Viggo.
Super-ninja elves....
by Darth Macchio
Dec 4th, 2008
12:41:45 PM
Yes indeed...nimbly walking across ropes...stepping lightly over snow that humans and hobbits and dwarves sink to their waists in (or, in the case of hobbits, their noses), greater perception and dexterity..that's all good and quite expected, in fact. But the moment he skis down those stairs on the shield made me involuntarily roll my eyes and lost me for a moment. And not just because it's not in the book...because it's fucking stupid.

We don't need Legolas's badassness shoved down our throats, we saw plenty of it before plus more to come and none of it was distracting to me. Jackson should have known better. I know Helm's Deep is a very brutal and epic battle in the film, but why must we have comedy or cheaply "cool" moments? Are people that traumatized by fictional war between humans, elves, a dwarf against orcs et al, that we simply cannot go more than 10 minutes without a joke about Dwarf tossing? Some form of cinematic catharsis? Or a tongue & cheek shield surfing moment? And tho it's been a while since I read LotR, I don't recall Tolkien going on about how much of a badass Jackson made Legolas out to be. But yet the taking down the olyphant scene was totally kick ass and to me, worked for his character. It's probably the only scene in TT that doesn't work for me (and why the Fellowship is my favorite of the cinematic trilogy).

Yeah, this is reading way too much into it and that's not what I enjoy doing...but I still think of that scene as emblematic of Jackson's tiny oversteps with this material. Outside of those few tiny missteps, the LotR film trilogy really is excellent and I'm delighted to be able to enjoy what is very likely the best translation of this classic material in our lifetimes.

Give it a rest already!
by ScottinDC
Dec 4th, 2008
01:05:29 PM
First off...Capone, this is simply one of the best interviews ever posted on AICN. You allowed Viggo to express his thoughts (whether we agree with them or not) and even engaged in casual banter that highlighted the things going on in his head (rather than coming in with an agenda). Now - to the people (like Samus Anus) whining about the books being 'destroyed by Jackson', give it a REST! The books themselves are not perfect...in fact, The Two Towers tends to meander and lose a bit of steam. However, they are very good books..and Jackson did a very good job adapting them for the big screen. Yes, they're different...but the times are different and it is never possible to cast 'perfectly'; the writer's imagination stands separate from any casting effort...so you make due with what you've got. Peter Jackson felt so strongly about Aragorn being well presented, that he fired Stewart Townsend's worthless ass after a week of filming and replaced him. Period. Peter needed someone talented to carry more of the story burden; and Viggo did an admirable job at performing the role with the dignity it required.
ScottinDC
by Samus Aran
Dec 4th, 2008
02:25:28 PM
Ok now you calm down. For one thing I never said that Jackson destoyed the books. In fact I think he did a terrific job, absolutely. They are among my top favorite movies ever.

Furthermore, I never meant to imply that I didnt think Viggo Mortensen didn't do a great job as Aragorn. I thought he was the best actor I can imagine to play that part- I have no problems there.

My problem with this whole Viggo Mortensen thing being in The Hobbit movies is that I dont want Aragorn to be in the Hobbit. If in fact there is a bridge movie (which sometimes I have heard it won't be a bridge movie), but if it is, then I can somewhat understand Aragorn being present in such a story. I just hope it isn't some made up story written by some damned hollywood screenwriter who has a passing interest in Lord of the Rings.

Calm down, I like Viggo just fine. He looks the part and he acts well. Just let Aragorn (the character) stay in the stories that he belongs in.

For those who have defended Del Toro, citing his long love for Lord of the Rings after all, I take great comfort in that if it is true. If he truly loves Lord of the Rings, and has truly always wanted to make the Hobbit, then more excited for this movie I could not be. I respect anyone who genuinely loves these books.

ScottinDC
by Samus Aran
Dec 4th, 2008
02:26:43 PM
And please don't call me Samus Anus, have some respect for a terrific video game character.:P
morGoth
by Samus Aran
Dec 4th, 2008
02:32:03 PM
Here is the interview in which Del Toro expressed his disdain for Tolkien concepts... http://www.salon.com/ent/audio file/2006/10/12/conversations_ toro/

Tell me if you think this doesnt sound like he dislikes "The Hobbit". I have no idea how someone who loves the Hobbit could say this.

morGoth
by Samus Aran
Dec 4th, 2008
02:35:17 PM
Oh, to view that url I just gave, remove each %20 out of the address when it says "file not found"
Sigh...
by morGoth
Dec 4th, 2008
02:38:53 PM
...that does it! I'm re-taking "Reading Comprehension 101." Appy polly loggies Samus, how I got "Jackson" out of "delToro" is beyond me. Yes, I do know what DT said but thanks for the (depressing) link anyway. I'll go there and re-share your concern. Curse skimming during lunchies anyway!
The Hobbit films will both cover JUST The Hobbit, No Bridge
by Samus Aran
Dec 4th, 2008
02:39:43 PM
Here is pretty convincing proof that The Hobbit movies will only be the book (as I had hoped). This is the first paragraph from todays wikipedia article on The Hobbit Films.

The Hobbit, based on the novel of the same name by J. R. R. Tolkien, are two films in development for release in December 2011 and December 2012. The films will be directed by Guillermo del Toro, with The Lord of the Rings film trilogy director Peter Jackson serving as executive producer and co-writer. Originally, the first film would have adapted The Hobbit and the second would have carried over into The Lord of the Rings; but the writers decided it was better to cover the novel over both films.

If people here don't know this, then perhaps aintitcool isnt doing a good enough job keeping you guys updated.

morGoth
by Samus Aran
Dec 4th, 2008
02:49:47 PM
easy mistake for you to mix up Del Toro and Jackson concerning this. I noticed a few gramatic errors I have made myself here.

Well I am sorry to depress you, but who knows what will happen. Someone earlier cited an enthusiasm that Del Toro has had for several years for making Smaug. That could be a good sign, it might be a bad sign, I really don't know. But if Del Toro really loves the Hobbit and wants to make the movies as the story really is, then how could such a person say "I was never into heroic fantasy. At all. I don't like little guys and dragons, hairy feet, hobbits -- I've never been into that at all. I don't like sword and sorcery, I hate all that stuff." I don't see how we are going to get a true Hobbit movie from a director who feels this way.

I think Pan's Labyrinth reflects this sentiment of his very clearly. He seems to actually like Fantasy, just not traditional Tolkienesque fantasy. Well that's fine, except he is now directing the quintessential Tolkienesque fantasy- The GOD DAmN Hobbit!

Leave it alone if you dont like it- there are other very good directors out there who do love and understand the appeal of this specific genre.

Brilliant actor
by pumaman
Dec 4th, 2008
05:27:32 PM
heck, he's was even good in that shitpile Phsycho remake. Can't friggin wait for The Hobbit !!!
Viggo is currently one of my favorite actors, but
by Orbots Commander
Dec 4th, 2008
06:28:24 PM
in this interview he does come off a bit like a pretentious, insufferable dude. He did seem engaged in the interview, asking Capone questions and all, but he came off like a type of guy you wouldn't want to spend much time around.
Viggo was the weak link
by brobdingnag
Dec 4th, 2008
06:34:27 PM
in LOTR. Seriously, this guy cannot act. He's as wooden as they come and it was glaring, especially when put up against real actors like Ian McKellen. Del Toro will absolutely ruin The Hobbit with or without Mortensen in any event just like he took a really good first Hellboy film and seguayed into the empty eyecandy that was HB 2.
Viggo was good as Aragorn but. . .
by Ingeld
Dec 4th, 2008
09:03:08 PM
sometimes I think the movies would have been better had Viggo and Sean Bean had switched roles.
Ingeld
by Samus Aran
Dec 4th, 2008
10:47:53 PM
Since Boromir is one of my favorite characters in the story, Sean Beans AWESOME performance was nothing but perfect for me. I say that Boromir is the better character between the the two, and as such, his character deserved the better actor. Pitch perfect.

And I don't really care so much that Two Towers and Return of the King suffered in the absense of Sean Bean because Fellowship is the best of the movies, and it is the best of the books, so let it have the best of the actors. We did in fact get to enjoy Sean Bean for an entire four hour movie, thank god for that.

TheHumanBeingAndFish and morGoth
by emvan
Dec 4th, 2008
11:14:24 PM
Great points. The movie's Boromir is a big improvement to the book. Denethor is much less interesting. (Unlike some, I don't have a problem with 90% of the Gimli as comic relief.)

"Supremely confident" Aragorn is what I said but not at all right! Rather, there is never a question that his destiny is to attempt to be Sauron's great enemy among men, and regain the throne. He knows from a very young age that this is the role that has been chosen for him. He does have great doubts about his ability to succeed, of course, as you point out.

The book's my favorite book, the movie's my favorite movie. Neither is perfect. The movie fixes some flaws in the book that even Tolkien would have acknowledged. Arwen in the movie is truer to Tolkien than in the book -- she was an afterthought to the book's composition, but her more active role in the movie has stronger echoes of Luthien with Beren, and it ought to. And there's no way that Gandalf doesn't know there's a Balrog in Moria -- Tolkien invented the Balrog backstory afterwards but never rewrote the chapter to reflect it (interestingly, that's the only place where he got the moon phases wrong, too).

There are lots of little things that bug me slightly about the movies, and I find that many others share them -- too many slo-mo shots of Frodo in pain, the Wizard smackdown, Galadriel's transformation. I think omitting Gollum's near-repentance from ROTK was a mistake (although inevitable because of the way they mucked with his psychological development). But there's almost inexhaustible, gloriously great riches. And not just inherently cinematic stuff like the lighting of the beacons. There are invented scenes, like Boromir's elegy to Gondor in Lorien, or Aragorn's fencing with Eowyn, or Eowyn and Theoden's final conversation, that feel 100% true to Tolkien, and that are as great as anything in the book. The two versions of this great story cohabit in my mind very nicely. I genuinely feel sorry for fans of the book who can’t love the movies.
One of the best actors on the planet
by most excellent ninja
Dec 5th, 2008
02:57:13 AM
no doubt. Him, Day Lewis, Bale, Considine. Brutallity in Acting.
He supports San Lorenzo
by most excellent ninja
Dec 5th, 2008
03:03:44 AM
which is the only bad thing about Viggo, he should be a xenieze. BOCA!
Indeed...
by Quintus_Arrius
Dec 5th, 2008
03:20:56 PM
... that was a great interview...

Well, I liked it.

Best actors on planet? forget not McKellen!
by pipergates
Dec 6th, 2008
12:17:55 AM
His role in Richard the third was absolutely amazing, and he was pretty damn perfect as Gandalf too.
Right you are pipergates...
by morGoth
Dec 6th, 2008
07:31:10 AM
...and aren't we lucky stiffs to have McKellen reprise his role for the upcoming (can't believe filming won't start until 2010!) Hobbit movie?
may McKellen live long and wizardly
by pipergates
Dec 6th, 2008
08:30:06 PM
Viggo is the greatest!
by Darth Thoth
Dec 21st, 2008
12:33:39 PM
Truly a great actor and man. Keep it up V! You too Capone. Good stuff.
Click for previous story Talk Back More on this story Click for next story

User login

Quick Talkback

Please login to post talkback.