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by palooka_boy
Dec 1st, 2008
11:43:20 PM
doesn't sound like it'll last
Sounds like a good book.
by Amy Chasing
Dec 1st, 2008
11:48:09 PM
Pity the show will suck.

oh, sorry... Too soon?

Braga = Major Suckage
by chromedome
Dec 1st, 2008
11:57:09 PM
and Blade the Series was about the same quality level as Bionic Woman remake, right.

Add the SciFi Suits to the mix, seems like we will get Flash Gordon Forward here.

Amy Chasing is right, though--sounds like a good book, so just popped the free sample to my kindle :-)

Goyer & Braga? That's a risky cocktail
by bravogolfhotel
Dec 2nd, 2008
12:03:12 AM
Then again, who knows? Maybe they'll neutralize each other's weaknesses. I can't fault the source material (Sawyer is a very solid SF writer) or the casting (Vance and Davenport are money in the bank).
Hey, episode 5 of Bionic Woman was good.
by Amy Chasing
Dec 2nd, 2008
12:03:17 AM
I think it was episode 5. Anyway, one of the episodes was actually decent. Like decent Sarah Connor Chronicles decent. And the girl who played the Bionic Woman was lovely and is now in Merlin occasionally, so atleast she's still getting work.
Sounds like a good template for a zillion.....
by Aloy
Dec 2nd, 2008
12:12:54 AM
..storylines to confuse us with. Sigh....but it's sci fi so I'll give it a look.
huh??......the plot is what?
by the milf lover
Dec 2nd, 2008
12:32:39 AM
a scientific experiment makes people have a vision of their future?

Is this a show about the Hadron Collider?

This Series Sounds Like A Open Threat Against Everyone By Goyer
by Media Messiah
Dec 2nd, 2008
12:37:19 AM
After two airings this series will be cancelled. It sounds like a open threat against good entertainment!!!
Well, I HOPE you don't mean the BW episode where...
by chromedome
Dec 2nd, 2008
12:42:47 AM
...they asked her "can you do a British accent--your cover is an exchange student from Oxford"--seems like that was a few episodes in....

Such wasted potential, that show: GREAT CAST (BW girl was great, as you say), good production values, but the writing/plotting was " 'orrible" (see, I can do a British accent too!).

But I digress--I return you to the TB that concerns the Black Ego Hole Of Suckage That Is Braga.

Discuss. Provide Examples.

Just don't make it and save the trouble of canceling it later..
by Mr Spork
Dec 2nd, 2008
01:53:07 AM
I guess that kills Swingtown
by gmanca
Dec 2nd, 2008
02:10:42 AM
Optimistically they can just have Bruce (Davenport) divorce Susan(Molly Parker) and continue with the story, but it's probably dead.
WHY IS BRAGA STILL WORKING
by Maniaq
Dec 2nd, 2008
02:46:57 AM
- anywhere that isn't a Mcdonalds - I'd say that's probly about the level of his (in)competence??
Not a musical??
by gotilk
Dec 2nd, 2008
03:40:42 AM
Just kidding. Seriously though, the book sounds like something I'd love. Thanks.
hey, Threshold was underrated:
by newc0253
Dec 2nd, 2008
03:42:02 AM
it had a shaky start but by the end it had gotten super-compelling, and a worthy precursor to Fringe. i kid you not.
chromedome
by Ray Gamma
Dec 2nd, 2008
03:55:47 AM
the actress in BW is British
I read this dime novel back in 2000 or 2001
by moondoggy2u
Dec 2nd, 2008
03:59:02 AM
Saw it in Kroger and figured it would kill a couple of hours. For what it was, ehhh, it was okay.

***spoilers***

The book starts out with the initial experiment and everyone fasts forward to twenty or thirty years into the future. At least, everyone who is still alive by then, of course. Now, this "vision" only lasts for about thirty seconds to a minute, if I recall, and so, most of the visions are of mundane tasks like eating breakfast or reading the newspaper. Heck, because of time zones, I think many people are/were asleep during this brief glimpse in time that everyone has. Well, for about half the novel, everyone in the world undertakes a project to piece together the "history of the future" via a mass collection of accounts from everyone in the world. There might be one guy in the entire world who was reading the internet site for Star Wars or some physicist giving a dissertation on current nuclear technological capabilites during this brief time period. No matter how unimportant or mundane, everything is compiled and eventually published for all to read. Meanwhile, the lead characters deal with problems like suddenly finding out that the person(s) he or she ends up with in life is not the one he/she is currently in love with. Heck, one guy is on a depression binge for the entire novel, disgusted with the fact that he is (apparently) leading a bad life and that there is nothing he can do to change it; the future is (apparently) set.

Well, this of course leads to the team who unleashed this mistake to try to replicate the phenomena, but this time on purpose. This time, however, only our lead character seems to have a vision, which involves ultra-fanciful things like artificial bio-mechanical bodies, "space gliding," and even a Dyson sphere.

Anywho, it turns out that the future is not set, thanks to a few suicides that occurred as a result of the initial vision. This has the effect of relieving society, and our lead characters, and allow them to take the marital plunge with people that weren't a part of their visions.

At the end, the book fast-forwards to the time in which the vision took place, and it turns out that some things that occurred in the vision took place while some things didnt. Our lead character finds out that he is being fielded for an eternal life project, which explains why he had a vision that was about 100,000 years in the future. When he is offered the red pill/syrum, he decides to decline and live out his remaining days with his loved one, thus further altering the future.

***END OF SPOILERS***

Really, I don't see how this could be anything but a TV movie, or maybe in a motion picture. There really is no action, comedy, or drama that allows a weekly television show. Maybe if they revamped the story into something involving the government's attempts at piecing the entire eperiences together or something else as equally asenine and illogical, but really, this isn't lasting more than a few episodes.

On a side note, is Braga a hack or what?
by moondoggy2u
Dec 2nd, 2008
04:04:52 AM
I mean, come on! How much time-travel can you possibly shovel? Is there anything else in science fiction that catches your fancy? Broaden your horizons, man!
Oh, and in the future, according to the book,
by moondoggy2u
Dec 2nd, 2008
04:08:28 AM
Lucas still never completed his proposed "Star Wars Saga In Nine Parts." Sad, I know...And everyone wears red jeans, now, instead of blue.
Braga sucks like a Heroes writer
by Drath
Dec 2nd, 2008
06:15:16 AM
In fact given all the Star Trek references I wonder if his hands aren't in that pot somehow. Of course if they were, Brent Spiner would probably have turned up before any classic Trek actors.
Dumb premise...
by Kid Z
Dec 2nd, 2008
07:42:11 AM
... why not something more logical, or at least, interesting. Like, oh.... "Scientists working on a new way to use quantum nanobots to cure acid reflux accidentally cause everyone on Earth to experience 20 minutes of explosive diarrhea."
And how the hell are they gonna market this?
by Kid Z
Dec 2nd, 2008
07:48:08 AM
..."From the director who killed the Blade franchise and the producer who killed Star Trek!" (Or maybe it should read: "... the producer who killed Star Trek, but it still had that one last gasp left in it before J.J. Abrams came in and finally managed to kill it for good!"
moondoggy2u (more spoilers)
by Varakor
Dec 2nd, 2008
08:08:58 AM
Actually in the book he didn't live out his days with his family, but he underwent that experiment, went to space with the asian guy, and found out there was no one else in the entire universe and that we were really alone... then again I haven't read the book in like ten years, but if anyone else has read it, let's bring in some clarity.
Hmm..are you sure, varakor?
by moondoggy2u
Dec 2nd, 2008
08:17:28 AM
I distinctly remember him turning down the injection/syrum. If he were to take it, he had to fake his own death, I believe, at a certain point and was not allowed to explain everything with his wife. I'm about 95% sure he turned it down.

Still, as you said, its been darn near ten years, so you could be right.

This was a good book.
by Holeman
Dec 2nd, 2008
08:28:42 AM
I'm a big fan of Robert J. Sawyer, he's like Michael Crichton, only with a brain and a social conscience. I can't see how this is going to be a series, but I'm glad someone is finally paying attention to his work. I hope "Calculating God" and "Humans/Hominids/Hybrids" gets done as well.
Just looked Sawyer up on Wiki...
by Kid Z
Dec 2nd, 2008
10:33:03 AM
...F this Flash Forward series, they should do the one about the alternate-universe, high-tech Neanderthals instead!
Brannon Braga is best left to playing amateur waterpolo
by SpyGuy
Dec 2nd, 2008
10:38:46 AM
And Braga obviously didn't get the McDonald's gig because he wasn't even qualified to run a register with pictures of the food on it.
Interesting concept.
by HoboCode
Dec 2nd, 2008
11:47:28 AM
But i too wonder how this can be serialized.
Ray Gamma--I know: that's why it was even more
by chromedome
Dec 2nd, 2008
01:04:11 PM
stupid and contrived: "HEE HEE, we'll have her pretend to be British, when she really is British--isn't that clever of us?"
Decent Premise, But Braga Means Pass
by _Maltheus_
Dec 2nd, 2008
02:28:39 PM
Sci-Fi geeks detest Braga, so why would he be put in charge of another sci-fi show? Do studios EVER run things past their target demographic? Or is this just another case of someone sucking the right dick for the job?
cancelling serialized shows without an ending
by filmfanatic1
Dec 2nd, 2008
02:33:10 PM
This is a problem; THRESHOLD was good, but no ending; DEADWOOD was great, but no ending; what's the point of following a show on a network or on the net or DVD like ROME, or CARNIVALE, if it doesn't have an ENDING, no matter how great they are???? At least, we know LOST will have one.
Another awkward concept getting green light.
by kabong
Dec 2nd, 2008
04:05:31 PM
Everyone working in TV business, please die.
Crooooooow
by nalapou
Dec 2nd, 2008
05:53:47 PM
really? i thought immediately that each episode would focus on one persons experience with the happening... similar to the first 2 seasons of The 4400. Don't really understand how you didn't see that possibility....
this will be another BRAGAbomination
by chromedome
Dec 2nd, 2008
06:54:49 PM
I just invented that word.

But he earned it.

Anyone read the book Timequake?
by RokurGepta
Dec 2nd, 2008
07:32:33 PM
by Kurt Vonnegut?
Brannon Braga is only good at sucking Rick Berman's cock...
by Leafar the Lost
Dec 2nd, 2008
07:33:07 PM
How many times does Hollywood need to be taught this lesson? Brannon Braga, and his bitch/whore Rick Berman, do not know how to produce anything. Didn't the shit-fest Threshold reveal to you how much Braga sucks? Yes, he is good at sucking Rick Berman's cock, but that is about it...
Will it have Carla Gugino in it?
by quintana007
Dec 2nd, 2008
09:31:39 PM
Her yummy milkbags were the only reason to watch their former trashcrap
The World will end...
by freerangecelt
Dec 2nd, 2008
10:49:55 PM
...21 years in the future, and of course the only way to stop it is to try to piece together what is going to happen, leading us to different guest stars each week and a shadowy antagonist that will finally be revealed at the end of Season 1. Sounds a little like Odyssey 5 to me...
I hate Brannon Braga...
by AnnoyYou
Dec 3rd, 2008
03:31:55 AM
...much in the same way I hate Joss Whedon, Rob Thomas and Chris Carter, and I refuse to watch anything any of them make now. They all ruined shows I used to love.
I once went to a convention to kill Braga.
by V'Shael
Dec 3rd, 2008
05:35:42 AM
And he didn't show.

True story.

chrome
by spidercoz
Dec 3rd, 2008
08:16:08 AM
how about "aBraganation"

v'shael - better luck next time

I can't see how this becomes a TV show
by Orbots Commander
Dec 3rd, 2008
11:24:51 AM
but I hope it's good. Anyway, most great dramatic writing is happening for scripted TV drama these days and less so on the big screen, where it has become an endless loop of reboots and remakes. On TV you have Lost, Mad Men, BSG, Shield, and on and on. In theaters, all we get is another crappy remake of a classic flick, The Day the Earth Stood Still.
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