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by JackIsLost
Dec 1st, 2008
08:05:45 PM
Tsrif!!
by Mace13
Dec 1st, 2008
08:05:54 PM
Darn you Jack. ;)
by Mace13
Dec 1st, 2008
08:06:33 PM
A Hollywood where remakes evolved from sequels?
by superunknown85
Dec 1st, 2008
08:10:03 PM
Re-imagining/reboot/re-whateve r, it's still a remake. I ignore all the sequels to the original 1968 film anyway, except for 'Beneath.'
FUCK TIM ROTHMAN
by Gungan Slayer
Dec 1st, 2008
08:15:35 PM
You finish raping all of your properties yet? Oh, of course not, you're Tim Rothman. Some of what Frank has stated in the above article interests me, but as a hardcore POTA fan I remain hesitant with this. One thing that we can all acknowledge is that it surely will end up being better than the 2001 crapfest. Surely. I remain confused though. Is this a prequel to the original franchise? Is this a prequel to the 2001 shitfest? Or is this just another reboot attempt?
It's a monkey business
by Power_Girl
Dec 1st, 2008
08:16:07 PM
throw shit at the audience.
But is Marky Mark in it?
by beetlegeuse
Dec 1st, 2008
08:18:09 PM
Say hi to your mother for me, okay?
HARD SCI FI vs SOFT RUBBER SUITS
by Mullah Omar
Dec 1st, 2008
08:22:44 PM
I wish the guy the best of luck, but I think part of the enduring charm of the series is how silly a lot of it is. Take out the silliness and overheated cheese and you are left with some pretty soul-crushing stuff. Not sure how this will do at the box office or whether anybody will want to sign up for Round 2.
Hollywood has become a madhouse...A MADHOUSE!!!!!!
by apollo80
Dec 1st, 2008
08:23:20 PM
Enough of the remakes/redos/retreads.
The link to CHUD is a link to AICN...
by FilmCritic3000
Dec 1st, 2008
08:24:03 PM
Just an FYI.
"There was a lot of love making but no love..."
by Leafar the Lost
Dec 1st, 2008
08:33:46 PM
I just wanted to write down a quote from Chuck Heston in APES that I could remember.
Come on Fox not interfere
by hallmitchell
Dec 1st, 2008
08:34:01 PM
They have to interfere. 1. Wolverine. 2. Aliens saga 3. X men. Guys could you imagine what it would have been like if Bryan was able to shoot X3 and X4 back to back with the Dark Pheonix saga? No. Fox had to muck him around and he left to make a crappy Superman Returns. Fox managerial code is to interfere.
I hate "reimagining"
by Shakes
Dec 1st, 2008
08:36:01 PM
I hate "reimagining"
by Shakes
Dec 1st, 2008
08:37:51 PM
Wasn't it Tim Burton who coined the whole "it's not a remake, it's a reimagining" concept. It was during the last Apes remake. At least that's the first time I heard a filmmaker make the distinction, and now every remake gets the reimagining moniker.
Even the TV show was better than
by crankyoldguy
Dec 1st, 2008
08:57:15 PM
the Burton movie. I like Burton - Wonka, Big Fish, Sweeney and a lot of his work before that, including the two Batman films. But Apes was monkey doo-doo. And this Conquest is sure to be more of the same dung.
LINK NOT WORK ....
by berserkrl
Dec 1st, 2008
09:07:29 PM
ME UNHAPPY ....
Conquest Marathon Showing
by hairyandtattooed
Dec 1st, 2008
09:23:48 PM
Surprisingly, they showed the "director's cut" of Conquest all weekend during the marathon.....
Sounds Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by crackerfarmboy
Dec 1st, 2008
09:24:39 PM
Conquest was the closet thing to an interesting movie in the PotA series, aside from the original of course. With that in mind it was still comically bad. There's a great story in there somewhere though. The Burton remake was such a missed opportunity. I'm psyched for this. I hope it happens!!
sounds like a stand-alone
by Friendo
Dec 1st, 2008
09:37:28 PM
that might be the best approach to these redos... don't try to strategize them into a new multi-film franchise, just make a decent fiahlm and move on to the next thing... wanna make yet another apes reimagining? move on to another director and another idea and who cares if they are formally or serially connected. (that way we'll never have to see another tim burton apes movie, ha!_)
Damn you!!! Damn you all to hell!!!
by TVguy4566
Dec 1st, 2008
10:35:38 PM
We don't need an Apes prequel. The reboot of the franchise died in Tim Burton's worst movie of his career.

I don't even get this concept. There will be no continuity between this movie and any sequels. How will they go from the individual story of Caesar in this movie to the Apes taking over to a complete Ape society.
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by Phil Connors
Dec 1st, 2008
10:59:13 PM
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Reboot
by Le Phantom
Dec 1st, 2008
11:00:04 PM
since they are rebooting every fucking franchise, why not do it right! Redo the original, but closer to the original novel, with modern or futuristic cities and technology!
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by Phil Connors
Dec 1st, 2008
11:02:19 PM
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between Clone Wars and American Graffiti but right
by Phil Connors
Dec 1st, 2008
11:10:03 PM
after Godfather but a reboot kind of homage to Voltron inbetween Superman and Naked Lunch crossed with Basic Instinct spin off of Battlestar Galactica complete take for take of Birds influenced by the Director's cut of Gran Torino in between remakes of Shortbus and Who Framed Roger Rabbit, but a reboot of that and the director of Road Warriors who bailed on Justice League same script writer as Ishtar but before that and after My Fair Lady, yet remake with a homosexual lead biopic of Primary Colors....
The Lookout is a gem.
by Rev. Slappy
Dec 2nd, 2008
01:13:07 AM
And Out of Sight is just spectacular.
AVATAR - Fucking your eyeballs in 2009
by Motoko Kusanagi
Dec 2nd, 2008
04:17:46 AM
nothing else matters
ALL the Planet of the Ape movies...
by sonnyfern
Dec 2nd, 2008
04:52:25 AM
except for Battle were friggin' AMAZING. Go out and buy that box set...watch them all in one day...and you'll see. YOU'LL SEE.
and yes, it was Burton who coined "reimagining"
by Gungan Slayer
Dec 2nd, 2008
06:08:06 AM
Or at least made it widely popular. The douche. Now studios can't stop shitting them out.
YOU BASTARDS!
by The Amazing G
Dec 2nd, 2008
06:53:58 AM
YOU BLEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW IT UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUP!!!!!!!!!
Magilla Gorilla Begins
by Spandau Belly
Dec 2nd, 2008
07:24:55 AM
So where's the standard press release that compares their reboot to Batman Begins?
"Grape Ape, Grape Ape...
by Kid Z
Dec 2nd, 2008
07:52:50 AM
... Grape Ape!"
It's Jaws meets Alien - with no shark or aliens
by 2deaconblues
Dec 2nd, 2008
08:15:21 AM
No? Don't like that one. Okay, how about The Birds. But here's the catch, no birds. It's a hard science fiction story about what would make a woman bleach her hair blond. No? How about a reimagining of The Hobbit, but with no Hobbits?
I didn't understand a word of that
by tonyd1411
Dec 2nd, 2008
09:11:32 AM
What does caesar have to do with apes? And what's with the references to M. Night's Happening that I completely don't remember?
Since the Original Series was a poorly veiled
by Ingeld
Dec 2nd, 2008
09:28:35 AM
metaphor for the history of race relations in the US --(the movies coming a few short years after the Civil Rights movement and the death of MLK, reflected both racist fears and integrationists' hopes), one wonders how this will be handled in the post Obama world.
The Original Concept
by medicinaluser
Dec 2nd, 2008
09:28:36 AM
Was to have the Apes be technologically advanced, we talking flying zoomy type vechiles and shit.

They were unable to do this due to budget concerns, so it just seems like Burton missed out on giving us a TRUE PTA movie when he made that shitfest with Marky Mark.

I am in if they make them an advanced civilisation, maybe even ones who are trying to colonise the rest of the solar system...even if just for the space chimps cameo.
Sounds Joyless: Really who is this for?
by Stormwatcher
Dec 2nd, 2008
11:05:18 AM
Will this be a mid February or late November release where the audience goes because they simply want to get out of the house and its date night and F that! I ain't going to any romantic comedies ect.... Seriously, beyond being no reason for this movie, it sounds flat, dull, obvious ending, since its either the Apes attack or the Apes take over or something. Seriously, another movie about how humanity is doomed? Really? Wow! So not interested. I doubt really anyone is.
Just Saw Conquest over the weekend
by Shut the Fuck up Donny
Dec 2nd, 2008
12:27:43 PM
and actually quite liked it--I really enjoyed Roddy/Caesar's final monologue where you can tell he's completely snapped, and basically everything Kira, Cornelius, and (later) Armando fought for were in vain.

I don't see how this movie will work unless they're just going to do it as a self-contained film, or if they revisit the original film mythos (albeit even in passing, a la Superman Returns). Any reference to Burton's film just doesn't seem plausible.

J. Lee Thompson's delightful CONQUEST OF THE...
by yomomma
Dec 2nd, 2008
12:50:31 PM
Delightful? Funniest thing I've read on this site today.
Well, at least it dodged the obvious bullet
by Subtlety
Dec 2nd, 2008
01:51:50 PM
of being linked in any way to Burton's film, which looked like a bunch of great make up artists and set designers gave their kids a bunch of ape suits and sets and let them film a movie with it.

Actually, a serious, sober and dark remake of "conquest" (which is in itself fairly somber, serious, and dark) might be just the thing to give the 'Apes' series new life. If (big if)they avoid going for spectacle and instead think of something interesting to do with a moderately interesting sci-fi concept, I could be very interested indeed.

Of course, it has to start with a new and interesting application of the concept. Burton's film was a complete retread of the ideas from the original, just done much worse. If they're going to bring the Apes back at all, they should do so because there's something unexplored about the concept that they think they could get at this time. Since the series is a pretty thin allegory anyway, if they try to turn it into a action movie or eye-candy vehicle, it will be a stupid disaster. Seems like a pretty dangerous project to tackle (especially if its being done at the request of Rothman and the suits, which means that it began with a marketing concept, not a story concept). But as of now, it actually looks more promising than it has any right to be.
Do the Right Ape
by Jollymorphic
Dec 2nd, 2008
03:16:09 PM
"...even as the final act sees him taking actions that may be hard for us to agree with."
Del toro to direct The witches...
by emeraldboy
Dec 2nd, 2008
03:26:13 PM
Cauron to Produce. Dahl hated the henson version.
One of the simpsons finest moments was...
by emeraldboy
Dec 2nd, 2008
04:22:53 PM
The send of the planets of the apes. Oh my god I was wrong, It was earth all along, youll never make a monkey, no youll never make monkey out of me!
If it's a stand alone thing...
by Ravetin
Dec 2nd, 2008
07:03:56 PM
...isn't this basically "I, Ape" without the context provided by PotA 1-3?
Don't go there Taylor. You might not like what you find!"
by RicardoMontalban
Dec 3rd, 2008
12:00:47 AM
Memo: 20th Century Fox and Scott Frank The reason the original POTA movis worked was the cool ape make-up & costumes (cutting edge for their time and still badass today). For some dumb reason though, Tim Burton decided to update it and as predicted, the apes didn't look as good. Here's a plan... Remake Conquest, but just do it bigger and better. That's what all us true POTA want. We want another ape movie that looks like the original series, but done with today's sensabilities. If you keep the original look, you'll win over millions of ape fans all over the world. Thank you!
Whoops!
by RicardoMontalban
Dec 3rd, 2008
12:03:12 AM
Sorry for all the grammer and spelling mistakes in my previous posting. I really need to review these before posting :)
but RicardoMontalban
by DocBosch
Dec 3rd, 2008
12:47:55 AM
The ONLY good thing about the Burton remake was the ape make-up. And yes, i think it was Burton who coined "re-imagining" for his Apes movie.
Burton's POTA was a POS...
by christian66
Dec 3rd, 2008
02:28:41 AM
...mainly because they jettisoned the reason the original captured imaginations -- because it was a thin satire on evolution, with Chuck Heston as the gag. As in most Hollywood remakes, the producers throw out the subtext for the story and you get dour Marky Mark crashing unscathed into Washington. Terrible film.
Ricardo
by Subtlety
Dec 3rd, 2008
02:13:45 PM
Careful what you say! If a fox exec reads that we want anything updated "with today's sensebilities" we're likely to end up with motorcycle-racing extreme rapping apes and eyeliner-clad Ashlee Simpson as the hero. Don't "modernize" the POTAs, make em TIMELESS!
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