The few moments that pieced together a scene, the beginning chase for example, looked pretty mediocre to craptacular. The rest of the teaser (I can't call editing like that a trailer) was just fast paced SFX vomit. Terrific effects, but video games have better 30 second teasers than this that tell a story.

And really, add fangs to the actors and they could be part of the cast of TWILIGHT. Hell, put Starfleet Academy next to river side town and film episodes of KIRK'S CREEK.

Kirk as troubled youth is an easy way out writing-wise. Sure, he could have always been a womanizer, but his character would work better as a tactical thinker. Type of kid that always got into trouble because he wanted to know how things worked. Learned to pick locks just to see what was in that locked box. His overwhelming curiosity always getting the better of him. Questioning the lessons being taught by his Stafleet professors and seeing holes in the strategies they taught. Hence, him out thinking them and reprogramming the Kobayashi Maru scenario.

Who knows, maybe they'll do more than the troubled teen thing. But I doubt it. This is the same people that brought us TRANSFORMERS and CLOVERFIELD. I know I'll be flamed for this, but those were two of the worst 'big budget' movies of recent years. They both were total insults to the movie going audience, yet made tons of cash. Two movies that featured human characters who were worthless, irritating and needed to be crushed by their CGI enemies.

Whelp...if anything, Star Trek looks...well...shiny.

I love how everyone involved with this production downplays that it's a reboot, foisting Leonard Nimoy up as an example of it still being canon. Yet everything about it contradicts anything that has come before. It's not realistic [sic] that all of the main crew members would be posted to the Enterprise right out of the Academy and remain there for the next 25 years.

I have no problem with them doing a reboot if there's a justifiable reason for it. If the reason is apparent in the movie, so be it. But they're playing at it like everything we've always know about Trek is to come and this fits in nice and neat with that. I understand wanting to grab a whole new audience, but you can't have it both ways.

I think what would've been more interesting with this concept is to have followed the transition of command from Capt. April to Christopher Pike and his first adventure on the ship. We can see cameos by the other characters and Spock would be the common link. Then you free yourself up from so much baggage.

Otherwise, it looks kind of fun, if not a bit of an overload. Can't stand Orci and Kurtzman's writing, so that worries me. But I like Abrams' enthusiasm. And if it does what it's intended to do and reignite the franchise, then more power to it. I'll reserve final judgment until I see the movie.

Looks far better than a great many of the Trek Movies we've already had.

Isn't that shit smallville the first stop for Emo Nerds ? Unless I'm mistaken there seemed to be a fair bit of action in here and one Emo voiceover on top of the bike scene hardly means it's going to be Trek High School Musical with Kirk Spock and Bones giggling over girls.

Still a bit early though, but let's face facts after SOME of the dreck Movies and the Enterprise failure this looks to be a well deserved kick in the ass to the whole franchise. Whether it works or not remains to be seen.

Not a great fan of young Kirk either but again I'll wait for the Movie to pass judgement.

Who knows? I think this just might be the ultimate "wait and see it" kinda thing, right? This could be the best thing that ever happened to Trek, or quite possibly the worst.

Of course, to be the worst, it would have to make less sense than the entirety of the "Enterprise" show. The show so bad it had to return to the "Next Generation" era in its finale to try to dovetail in and justify the continuity.

:D

Trailer looked alright, except for that intro. Stupid kid, you always give your friends name when the cops pull you over. Plus you shouldn't be driving if your feet can't touch the pedals.

No I think you'll find there was PLENTY of phasers, tits and monsters in the old flicks, not to mention rose tinted glasses for the heavy duty trekkies who don't seem to grasp some of it was pretty weak fucking stuff.

Let's see Kirk seems to be cocky (and no doubt womanising), Bones is amusingly downbeat, Scotty enthusiastic and excitable, the only strange thing is Spocks anger but there might be a plot point for that.

So far characterwise they seem to be mostly pretty on target and this is the beginning of their characters formation as a team on the Enterprise (Or did you not grasp that simple fucking fact Douchebag ?)

Try and rewrite history all you wish some of the Trek Movies were pretty shit.

Of course the fact that I NEVER claimed the good ones were Schindlers List would seem to be the desperate flailings of someone trying (and failing) to misrepresent my position.

You REALLY need me to spell it out to you AGAIN ? You DO ? *sigh* Fine. Some of the Trek Movies were pretty fucking poor. Nowhere in that sentence or anywhere fucking else did I say you claimed Trek 1-5 were Schindler's List. Fucktard.

And far from painting some polyanna picture of this new Movie I at least had the sense to qualify my remarks with - Whether it works or not remains to be seen. - Not a great fan of young Kirk either but again I'll wait for the Movie to pass judgement.

So look elsewhere for naive optimism and the "Abrams can do no wrong fanatics" or their polar opposite the hysterical trekkie idiots damning it with very little evidence and getting amusingly upset over minor canon like Enterprise nacelles.

Imagine Ryan Gosling as a young Kirk. The same cockiness and insanity. It's perfect. That's really what Kirk is defined by, Shatner's purely odd acting choices.

“Some never participate. Life happens to them. They get by on little more than dumb persistence and resist with anger or violence all things that might lift them out of resentment-filled illusions of security.”

-- Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune [p. 159]

Bringing up a typo when you can't even spell THAT correctly ? Jesus what a prize cock.

And speaking of "Somebody babbling incoherently" "Trek 1-5 Was all I was talking about, since it would be absurd to reboot The Next Generation with the cast of the original series."

What you DIDN'T know that 6 and 7 have original cast members in them ??? Fuck me I'm not a trekkie and even I know that much. "I think the idiot is understood at this point." Indeed it is, but you have FAR bigger problmes like..

"The uh...sex, wasn't there not any in any previous star trek film? I don't mean to sound like a prude," "nookie" "naughty bits," No you sound like a 12 year old. Exactly what do you think Kirk was up to with all those Women and Alien females ? Christ grow up.

"But I'm not really angry about it, I don't give a shit about star trek.""you got me riled" Yeah, you're right. That IS too much fun dipshit.

"at least it looks shiny." You seem to be forgetting that ALL the Trek films are special effects heavy and the over-reliance on them nearly sank the first one under the weight of pointlessly looooooooong tracking and establishing shots of the Enterprise and the Vyger artifact. Not to mention that 3 and 5 simply weren't very good. Character driven or not.

But hey you are one of those who can tell from a 2 minute trailer exactly how "dumbed down" or "kiddie friendly" this is aren't you ? Enough said.

But that's what makes them trekkies I suppose, unquestioning Zombie like blind fucking conviction that it is untouchable and every Trek episode and Movie is the absolute pinnacle of science fiction TV or film-making.

It's not. I really like the original series but, by Christ, there's some dreck in amongst the Gold.

Without the Kirk, Spock Bones triumverate holding it all together some of it would be unwatchable. In fact there are still parts of TOS you simply can't watch without a very forgiving eye so absurd are they. But you can enjoy them as LONG as you don't make the fatal mistake of taking them FAR TOO SERIOUSLY.

There simply weren't enough "City on the Edge of Forever's" to say that Trek was deadly serious science fiction that must always be treated with an awe bordering on lunatic reverance. It's revisionism. Trek unashamedly went for the cheap gags on occasions and so did the Trek Movies. One of THE funniest short scenes ever to appear on TV is Kirk kissing the green haired Alien Babe, then punching her out. NOT because violence against women is funny but becasue it's KIRK and we think "yeah, he'd do that." Kirk usually wasn't truly happy unless he was teaching Alien females the true meaning of "earth love" or beating/blasting the crap out of someone.

Trek isn't hard science fiction and only occasionally was a technological or cultural extrapolation of current events highlighting dangers and trends.

Most of the time it was pulp space opera adventure and there's nothing wrong with that. But lets not pretend it's the untouchable fucking messiah of science fiction. It's not.

It MIGHT have now run it's course had it's time. This Movie MIGHT not be very good and Trek will again sink below the waves.

But it MIGHT, just might be fairly good and I'm simply not going to damn it on this 2 minutes of evidence because it's premature.

As to to my comments regarding sacred and divine law: I thought that the comparison was obvious enough, but if you want me to clarify my views on the problem of Divine Law and human interpretation, I'm more than willing. Is that what you want?

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And here's a round up of Kirks guide to women.

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pick up a book once in awhile. it might go against everything the net has "taught" you. try it. you might just find out what cerebral really means.

But hey, you stick to your "slimier tribbles" and "nookie" and "naughty bits" and have a "good old time" with that.

I'll still be laughing very hard indeed since you seem completely unaware how amusing you sound and keep adding more Gold to the pile with the likes of "I win".

No there's NOTHING hysterically funny or childish about that kaspianwithak. Nothing whatsoever.

All that aside, I'm totally behind a reboot, which this film clearly is. Had it just been some crumby prequel, like Enterprise, I wouldn't have nearly been interested at all; Trek-verse has just become to unwieldy and bloated to command real interest for me.

Let’s see the holocaust on Tarsus IV where Kirk’s family was executed by “Kodos the Executioner”. Let’s see young Kirk and his childhood friend Thomas Leighton try to rescue their families and Leighton getting half his face blown off in the process. Maybe they could be rescued by Vulcans which would explain Kirk’s affection for Vulcans in general and Spock in particular.

I want to see Finnegan giving Kirk shit at Starfleet Academy.

I want to see Kirk’s friendship with Gary Mitchell before he flips out with superpowers from “Where No Man Has Gone Before”.

I want to see the moment where Kirk hesitated as a young officer and something happened that Kirk feels guilt over that is hinted at but, never explained in a conversation between Kirk and McCoy in the turbo lift in “The Corbomite Maneuver.”

Having the whole crew the same age and graduating from Starfleet Academy and being posted to Enterprise together is not believable. Why not have them posted to different ships. April is in command of Enterprise, Pike is in command of a second ship and Kirk is posted to USS Republic or USS Faragut. There is a big space battle Faragut and Republic are destroyed. Enterprise is damaged. April is wounded and many of Enterprises crew are killed. Pike takes command of Enterprise and the surviving crews of Republic and Faragut are rescued and become the Enterprise crew we have come to know and love. Later Pike is disabled and Kirk takes command of Enterprise so he can have his big hero moment. At the end of the movie let Pike recover and take permanent command of Enterprise. Save Kirk taking command of Enterprise for a sequel so Pike and Spock can go to Talos IV and have their “Menagerie” adventure.

Making the Romulans the villains causes all kinds of continuity problems with the plot point from “Balance of Terror” that no one knows until that episode that Romulans look like Vulcans. Why not make the Klingons the Villains? It saves a lot of continuity problems. You know that Kirk and Nero are going to have their Mano-a Mano showdown. How do you explain Kirk’s surprise that Romulans look like Vulcans in “Balance of Terror” if they have seen each other up close?

I don’t have a problem with a Trek “Reboot” if that is what Paramount wants to do. But, Paramount wants to have it both ways. J.J., Orci and company are going around claiming that the new movie is cannon when it clearly is not. Putting Nimoy in the movie is a cheap gimmick. They don’t want to piss off the existing fans, but that is what they are going to do. I would rather they be honest and say what EJO said about the new Galactica. “This is a complete reboot. If you don’t like that don’t watch it.”

yeah it looks like anyone that thought Transformers was great will enjoy the Trek reboot.

as for not going to movies if you can't enjoy an obtuse piece of fluff, nah. there are plenty of solid movies out there, not made for people under the age of 15 or below an IQ of 90.

there's plenty of choices for all of us.

my expectations were so low for this thing, it won't bother me whether it sucks or rocks.

Just imagine the forthcoming action figures...

Kurtzman and Orci wrote this it probably won't be good. Those two ass clowns blow goats as writers. Maybe since MI 3, JJ Abrahms learned how to direct.

As for the complaints I'm hearing about this show relating to the lowest common denominator, all I can say is that, time and again, the original Trek did the same. Yes, there were the thought provoking portions of Trek that made nerds cream in their jeans, but there was also plenty of other, campier, melodramatic elements, too. So far, I'm liking what I see.

I'm well over 30, but I'm willing to give this a chance because I think Trek needs the youth, the time period of TOS, and the simplicity of TOS costuming, ideals, and action. I hated Voyager, wasn't overly fond of DS9 from about halfway through, and fucking hated Enterprise (in name only) even though I'm a huge Bakula fan. Everything B&B touched eventually turned to shit. They technobabbled their way out of every episode. They pushed skin-tight costumes on girlfriends instead of solid plots. They turned every enemy race into pussies. They Made Trek feel like a Disney Channel show.

If Abrams can put some of the kickass back into Trek, I'm all for it.

If this movie is successful, I do hope that a new series will make it back on tv in some shape or form. Miss seeing any version of ST on a weekly basis.

MY NAME IS JAMES TIBERIUS KIRK!

what person talks like that? and what person with half a brain being chased by the cops gives his full name including middle name?

Spock.. exactly what I feared, on the surface Quinto looks remotely like Leonard Nimoy. His ACTING however isn't what Spocks is supposed to be at all. There is way more emotion in his eyes and expression. I would have suggested they found an actor that didn't even LOOK like Nimoy but looked specifically found an actor that could play that part. I don't feel they did that well enough.

Hoping for the best but still a skeptic... (My concerns are not about canon, it's about JJ and Kurtzman and Orci. Not a fan of any of their work.)

Well okay, it doesnt look that good, but not bad either. But I guess since my favorite Trek are First Contact and Voyager, my opinion is obsolete in this discussion.

At least this trailer is stirring more interst in me than the lameass Watchmen one...

You're all going to see it.

Admit it, bitches.

Why, because Hollyweird is shit.

Who thought that sounded like cinematic family fun? Satan?

Which a lot of you seem to have a voracious and unashamed appetite for.

Damn it!

Wow! This is fun. It's like a drinking game!

ZING!

Wheeeeeee!!!

With his face on it?

Ewwwww.

"Beware of Rabid Geek!"

I'm fucking excited !! kudos to trek coming back (eat it berman)

he destroy the enterprise over a self destructing planet in order to over power a klingon rival!! The man has some big hairy nuts my friends.

Spock in old school get up looks fantastic. yes Spock has emotional issues in his youth... that was always his arch - he's a vulcan and as sch is not allowed to have emotions... yet his mother was human and he retains that 'dark' secret with fury.

Simon pegg as scotty looks great. even McCoy has me intrigued. Bones was always a complaining angry man and there he is being angry and complaining.

I'm not sure about the ship being constructed ON earth.... i was always of the belief that federation ships were built at ship yards above the moon and mars. But the front on view of the ship gave me joygasms.... I literally can not wait to see old style trek on the big screen.....

give paramount and jj credit where it's due.... Star trek is coming back

here's hoping it aint a pile of superman returns style shit but is in fact more in the realm of the dark knight or 007 -- return to forms.

remember to fix the spaces

He takes a priceless vehicle, destroys it, then blats out his name to the cop like he's actually accomplished something. Seems to imply he's a self-obsessed, sociopathic twat who might grow up to put his whole crew at risk to career climb. Thought the guy was a hero...if he were saving a busload of Andorian orphans, maybe that would justify wrecking a quarter-millennium-old antique.

This NEED FOR SPEED phony-"cool" bullshit doesn't bode well...

star trek always had space battles and explosions and race against time scenarios. It just wasn't about those things.... thats why the last few films were so shit. they forgot to give them a reason to be having space battles.

I'd go so far as to say DS9 had some of the biggest and best space battles ever visually conveived...

In other words, the TOS Trek cast looks older because they really were.

I will give JJ some credit for using Nimoy as a bridge between the old and new versions. This reboot needed that kind of nod to the past to lend it some authenticity.

That's when they get their biggest percentage of the BO.

As for criticism of what we know--or suspect--is coming in this movie, it has to do with respect for the Star Trek concept, not nostalgia for old-time TV.

But still too frenetic and shiny.

If old Spock visits from the future, maybe he could clue young Kirk in on a few things, like, "Dude...stay away from Carol, or you'll father a son that she will hide from you for 25 years, and who will be killed by klingons while I'm busy undergoing pon-far for the second time after having died and been left on a planet created by scientists...oh, and if some balding man named Picard ever asks you for help, run away."

Lesbians can join, but no Gay Men.

There are loads of Gay Jedi, however. I just wanted to pass that along.

Rickey, fuck off. Nobody cares.

My thoughts on the trailer: Crappy looking. That's okay though because I'd rather see a bad trailer than a bad movie anyday. Besides, I've seen the last 6 films in the theater, why should this one be any different.

They have to fill that up coming Smallville opening with something.

Anyone remember when Ugly Betty's sister first came to her job? "It looks like gay Star Trek."

These new 'updated' views of the ship do have a rounded walls, plastic look to them.... Oh, God, wait.., I feel it coming "UGLY KIRKboy".

Tylerdurden I like the space fights in Nemesis right until Picard, A-Lets someone be sucked into space without the slightest attempt to beam him back and B-then crashes the ship, to little effect, whereas if the Picard maneuver had been performed and the nacelles released as the ship stopped that would have taken care of the issue, call that the smashing maneuver.

If they put some effort into visualization of what 23rd century Earth would be like, they might strike closer to a Star Trek movie worthy of the label. Instead, they resort to the same-old rebel teen in leather jacket on a motorcycle. They could plug that shot into any movie set after 1900 -- and they probably will, over and over again.

They are deliberately constraining the imaginative-space for audiences, conditioning people to accept, submit, obey.

Much better would be an opening scene of Ensign Jim Kirk on the run from Orion criminals on a planet of exotic beauty hundreds of light years from Earth.

But that might look too different. Somebody might get confused.

1) Kirk steals classic car in some brilliantly genius (but unlawful) way.

2) Kirk goes before a judge who orders him to 'use his gifts for good' and makes him enlist in Starfleet

3) Time passes (insert Survior tune here) and Kirk is now given his command of the Enterprise. Here he meets all our favorite characters.

Does this the whole Pike story didn't happen?

Is this the 2nd Enterprise being built or the first?

Is Kirk given the flagship right out of the academy?

Spock- It's pure beef.... baby

Of course this thing LOOKS good--they spent $150mil and shot for 9 fucking months. You'd hope they could get 2 minutes of cool shots together.

Too bad everything relating to the mighty O.A.K. tree looks like Singer's "Star Trek Returns."

LOL

You stated so without a single point to back your thoughts up with, is this the modern net people spewing pseudo clever sounding critiques with little or nothing to back that opinion up?, weird.

It's like being seen to sound clever is more important than actually being so, no wonder the younger generations are so fucking thick.

So can we stop with the whole "ZOMG TOO PRETTY" over the casting choices, because its not as if Bruce Dern was the original Kirk.

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