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Hammer Time!! Marvel Planning
26 Mighty Episodes Of THOR!!

testing 1 2 3 by xega	Nov 14th, 2008 12:36:40 AM
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maybe they'll use Dr. Katz squiggle animation by thefastestprofessoralive	Nov 14th, 2008 12:40:54 AM
The last Iron Man cartoon was poop. I hope this one at least is drawn well.
Awesome, but not a shock. by Johnny Smith	Nov 14th, 2008 12:44:21 AM
The current Spider-Man series is aces, and what I've been able to...acquire...of Wolverine and the X-Men has been slow-moving but ultimately rewarding so far. Get JMS in some sort of supervising position and this should be good.
Hopefully it's the regular Marvel Thor... by James Westfall	Nov 14th, 2008 01:00:07 AM
... and not that fake Ultimate Marvel crap.
Wish it was coming out BEFORE the movie by WaitingforAvengers	Nov 14th, 2008 01:16:46 AM
I feel like Thor needs to prep mainstream audiences more then most other superheroes.
will Branagh direct the cartoon as well? by newc0253	Nov 14th, 2008 01:25:17 AM

What it needs.. by CeejayNightwing	Nov 14th, 2008 01:40:22 AM
is to come out before the film. It also needs to be more like the Ultimate Marvel Thor in its costume design and persona, but have the duality of the original Thor and his Doctor Don Blake identity just to make the character more interesting.
Yes, get it out before the movie.... by Carl XVI Gustaf	Nov 14th, 2008 01:58:54 AM
...and teach the kids that Thor has a weekday named after him. And that "thunder" is named after him.
Reminds me of the 90's by kenny38606	Nov 14th, 2008 02:01:34 AM
When we had X-Men, Fantastic Four, Iron Man, Spider-Man and Incredible Hulk.Keep it up.I just hope these shows last longer than a year.They used to order about 64 episodes, now after 26, they call it quits.We also need more shows from DC.At least some DVD movies set in the DCAU.
It'd be nice if they made something by veritasses	Nov 14th, 2008 02:05:31 AM
that was good enough to air on prime time on a major network...
After the movie's a flop you mean? by V'Shael	Nov 14th, 2008 02:19:39 AM
Bad enough that Kenneth Branagh is doing it, but if Thor still speaks Shakespearean English, people will think Ken is taking the piss. And if he doesn't, the fans will be pissed off.
Will he be wearing the silly looking, by Dingbatty	Nov 14th, 2008 02:32:41 AM
mirrorball longjohns like in the recent reboot? Can't figure out why Thor would need armor, but at least make it look good if ya must put him in it. They needed Simonson to design it (though the Kirby design was good enough).
Hopefully... by Carl XVI Gustaf	Nov 14th, 2008 03:08:02 AM
he will wear viking armour.
Hopefully the animation by ledbetter51	Nov 14th, 2008 05:57:07 AM
will be better than the recent straight to DVD movies. Those just weren't that good.
Thor, now equipped with by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Nov 14th, 2008 06:36:33 AM
halogen headlights.
I hope it's on BET by Dazzler69	Nov 14th, 2008 06:49:19 AM
That would be funny.
Please no anime look by SpikeTBB	Nov 14th, 2008 07:04:49 AM
There are aspects of the new animated spider Man I appreciate but I wish it were not that particular art style. "The Batman" series is also impossible for me to watch because of the crappy art. So sick of that style.
"Do not crowd, females! It is time for melody!!!" by BetaRayBill07	Nov 14th, 2008 07:31:19 AM
Hahaha I'm so using that line tonight at the bar!!!!
will we ever get cartoons on the level of 90's X-Men, Tick, Spid by turketron	Nov 14th, 2008 07:34:51 AM
Shit there were some excellent cartoons back then. I would wake up at 6:30 or 7 am and veg out on cartoons until 12pm. My mom hated it. Even Sunday mornings had good cartoons on the WB and USA...
90's X-men by David Lazarus Long	Nov 14th, 2008 07:55:45 AM
is the standard to which all comic cartoons should be judged. I feel sorry for kids these days. And the Tick was WAY ahead of its time. Damn, that would be a great companion to Venture Bros. Update the animation slightly and bring back the insurmountable Patrick Warburton, of course. SPOOOOOOON!!
if it's on Cartoon Network it'll prolly okay if not... by Judge Briggs	Nov 14th, 2008 07:58:49 AM
it will prolly suck ass because it will be dumbed down... this is obvious.
Oh, and by David Lazarus Long	Nov 14th, 2008 08:03:06 AM
I hope the Iron Man series is freaking awesome. I assume Marvel is planning these new series around existing comic book arcs? Or is Tony Stark going to become a spunky teenager that flaunts the rules but gets straight A's in physics?
I'd like to see a Marvel channel by David Lazarus Long	Nov 14th, 2008 08:05:52 AM
THAT would be impressive. Show old X-Men and Spidey episodes during the day and have the new shows on at night? Freakin' sweet. I'd take that over Heroes ANY day of the week. Even Thorsday ^_^
Get J. Michael Straczynski to write episodes! by SpyGuy	Nov 14th, 2008 08:41:10 AM
JMS is rocking the current THOR monthly series...whenever it actually arrives, that is.
Love that by Golitsyn1	Nov 14th, 2008 08:49:40 AM
Hitch art. Stunning!
where is Wolverine and the Xmen? by j2talk	Nov 14th, 2008 08:59:50 AM

who likes Thor? by LarryTate	Nov 14th, 2008 09:18:20 AM
really.. anyone??
In other cool news, SMALLVILLE showed a clip of Doomsday by SpyGuy	Nov 14th, 2008 09:23:02 AM
And he's an actual monster, as opposed to Sam Witwer with shit stuck on his face. Where the hell is the talkback for this?
"I love you so... Both of you!" by Curious Jorge	Nov 14th, 2008 10:01:45 AM
That Jane is a real swinger.
I love Thor. by Dave Bowman	Nov 14th, 2008 10:31:45 AM
He's one of my favorite Marvel characters. Anyone have a problem with that?
EvilWizardGlick - Avengers by Johnny Smith	Nov 14th, 2008 10:56:30 AM
That show's not "new". It's from the late 90s.
Comic Cartoons by Mr.FTW	Nov 14th, 2008 11:12:03 AM
Hulk vs. Thor looks awesome mostly due to it being set in Asgard. That aspect of Thor is never exploited enough. For a cartoon that will rely heavily on action we don't need Donald Blake. Why does everyone hold the 90s X-Men cartoon as the gold standard, that show was awful. From the animation to the overly long and way overly convoluted story lines. Yes, it's cool they made it like the comics but the 90s X-Men comics were often a headache to read and that cartoon could be laborious to watch because of that. X-Men Evolution was a far superior show in terms of animation, fresh takes on the costume and character designs and a lot more character development. But people like to hate it because it wasn't a direct translation of the comics. I read the comics I don't need to see them redone in animated for. AS far as the people that whine about anime influence on the character design comic cartoons have needed that shot in the arm for a long time, the DCAU still needs it. It's doesn't have to be over the top, almost parody like the horrible Fantastic 4 cartoon that came out a couple of years ago where Johnny Storm had ridiculously spiky hair but some anime sensibilities work great with supeheroes. Shows like The Batman, Batman: Gotham Knight, Legion of Superheroes and Teen Titans at least gave something fresh from a visual stand point for those character. I know this is going to be blasphemy to some but I'm beyond tire of the Bruce Timm DCAU from BATS to the new Batman: Brave and the Bold it's been the same style for 16 years. JL, Superman: Doomsday, New Frontier and now Brave and the Bold took some side steps but never anything far from the Timm look. I'm not saying big eyes and spiky hair for everyone just something a little updated.
Batman The Animated Series Box Set. by TJ Donkey Show	Nov 14th, 2008 11:24:49 AM
I just got it as an early Christmas present from my wife. I HIGHLY recommend it to any fan of to anyone that enjoys the genre. Animators should really take a good look also, so they can get an idea on how to produce outstanding work.
Why can't Marvel put out a good cartoon? by AnakinsDiapers	Nov 14th, 2008 11:46:52 AM
With the only exception being Spectacular Spider-Man, all of their endeavors suck ass. Why is that? Both ultimate Avengers movies were soulless and joyless spectacles. Dr. Strange was tripe and Iron-Man and Young Avengers isn't worth mentioning. Marvel was the first publisher to produce three dimensional, flawed characters, and yet, animation wise, DC is kicking their asses in producing well written narratives with witty, three dimensional characters. Being a Marvel boy growing up, it hurts me to see this crap. I remember getting into a debate on this board years ago when the first Ultimate Avengers cartoon debuted. I was told comparing Avengers to JLU wasn't fair because JLU had a few seasons to improve. My opinion was although the writing was raw the first season, you could still see the superior craft. Well, time has told. There is simply no reason marvels characters have been painted in such broad strokes in their animation forms, while the DCU characters are richly explored. Iv'e lost count of the times i've smiled at the screen watching Batman, and later, the JLU and have said, "yep, that's what Bruce/Clark/Wally would say..spot on". Shape up Marvel!
Why no mention of Marvel's Ultimate Avengers? by theycallmemrglass	Nov 14th, 2008 12:44:14 PM
That was a great animated film made in 2006. Thor was great! not much on screen but he was perfect especially when he was fighting hulk. I think Marvel's animated films in recent years are far better than the live action movies. Check out Dr Strange, Invincible iron man, and Ultimate Avengers part 1 (part 2 is not as good). The New Avengers was also very enjoyable but set in an alternative universe where the Avengers have been killed by Ultron. Only Iron Man survives and protects the Avengers children who become the "new" Avengers. Cant wait now for Thor series and the movie Thor vs hulk.
Thor Died with Kirby by Odkin	Nov 14th, 2008 02:04:37 PM
No one else has ever -ever- gotten the character right. Everyone elses version looks like a hippy, a pansy, or Conan. No one ever captured nobility like Kirby. And why are they always inserting goofy fantasy elements? It's mythology, not Princess Fairyland.
by grabthar's hammer by palewook	Nov 14th, 2008 02:15:33 PM
wait wrong character..
Hmmmm by Berserkr	Nov 14th, 2008 02:35:08 PM
First off, i don't know who mentioned it, but there is NO new Avengers cartoons, and secondly, i loved the X-Men Cartoon when i was younger just as much as anybody but i ask you all to go back and watch it now that your older, it does NOT stand the test of time, im sorry to say it but DC makes the best comic cartoons, they are the standard by which all others should be judged, Thor is my favorite comic character there is and JMS is really knocking it out of the park, this is the first time Thor has not seemed cheesy to me, i am very glad he dropped the Shakespearean speech, it made reading the old comics almost unbearable i think this new Thor seems VERY noble and i dont think Thor has ever looked this good.
p.s. by Berserkr	Nov 14th, 2008 02:36:45 PM
He needs a beard though:P
Hope it's not in that crappy... by Kid Z	Nov 14th, 2008 03:30:33 PM
...overly-rendered style all their stuff was in back in the 90s!
No Beard! by Odkin	Nov 14th, 2008 03:39:17 PM
He's not a freakin' biker, either!
I think Thor's been good since Kirby... by Kid Z	Nov 14th, 2008 03:40:35 PM
...on occassion, mind you. Think I always thought cool about Kirby's version was how well he synthesized the mythological elements with a science-fictional sensibility. It was an almost perfect fusion of the two genres, which is a rare thing.
Simonson's Thor was Good by YakMalla	Nov 14th, 2008 04:07:08 PM
337 through 390 or so, mid 80s. Very imaginative, character-driven stuff. Beat Thor to a pulp.
Herc - can we start getting Clone Wars stories? by Keeper Of Chimps	Nov 14th, 2008 04:21:13 PM
The series has been surprisingly good (a trillion times better than the movie). Doesn't it deserve some discussion?
Here's a Clone Wars story... by Heckles	Nov 14th, 2008 06:03:09 PM
It sucks ape balls. Actually the show isn't bad, I just like to complain. Makes me feel like a true fanboy.
the '90s x-men cartoon good? by DannyDorko666	Nov 14th, 2008 07:01:51 PM
Man I thought that was one of the worst of the bunch. Horrible animation there. Spiderman was good but in the animation realm DC F's Marvel in the A. Batman the animated series, Superman, Justice League....those were the good shows.
Hulk vs. Thor by Punch_Drunk	Nov 14th, 2008 07:56:23 PM
awesomeness. When does it come out?
Yeah, Marvel animation by Carl XVI Gustaf	Nov 14th, 2008 08:36:36 PM
Why is it always... kinda crappy? DC are so much better at finding the right style for their cartoons.
Odkin by Berserkr	Nov 14th, 2008 08:54:18 PM
Biker no, But Norse warrior god yes, and Vikings were very well known for their beards. They were also very clean contrary to popular belief:P
If this can make a movie/series, so can Wonder Woman by Drath	Nov 14th, 2008 08:57:14 PM
It's all Jack Kirby meets 300 stuff anyway, why DC can't get things done with Wonder Woman but gets that awful Catwoman movie made I'll never know.
Lee/Kirby Thor...check 'em out by crankyoldguy	Nov 14th, 2008 10:01:26 PM
IN volumes like Marvel Masterworks Vol. 4-6 of Thor (just like FF Masterworks V. 4-10 and the Captain American Vol. 3-4). This IS the stuff of comics legend. Simonson's Thor was probably the best take on it all until JMS' current run. The Ultimate's Thor? A variation on Millar's belief that all super-heros are assholes.
and why not a New Gods mini-series on Sci-Fi? by crankyoldguy	Nov 14th, 2008 10:02:47 PM
Incorporating Mr. Miracle and Forever People, too. Would beat the hell out of the stoopid-ass monster flicks they run again and again. Not mention crap like Ghost Hunters. Ugh.
Also by Berserkr	Nov 14th, 2008 10:30:18 PM
To make the movie successful, it must NOT have the Shakespearean speak and he should absolutley NOT wear underwear over pants:P
How did Marvel ever sign off on those 60's cartoons? by Crimson Dynamo	Nov 14th, 2008 11:13:29 PM
They make Clutch Cargo look like Disney
The 60s Marvel cartoons... by catlettuce4	Nov 14th, 2008 11:31:53 PM
...they were made on the cheap for a quick buck. You need to remember that, in 1966, Marvel had only been publishing those 'funny books' for about four years and there was no guarantee the trend would last.
Keeper Of Chimps: we can have clone wars when... by MurderMostFowl	Nov 14th, 2008 11:51:35 PM
When the terrible animation of that show gets better and actually doesn't look like a console game for the Nintendo 64. I watch Little Einsteins with my daughter and the mouth movements look more realistic! It is such a shame that Pixar and Disney ( I'm treating them separately ) apparently have a monopoly. No one in the USA can put out high quality TV animation. Not even Mr. Spend money on anything technology George Lucas, can create anything remotely good in animation. Why is that? Watch a couple of episodes of Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in The Shell, Paranoia Agent, or Macross Frontier and then tell me Clone Wars is good with a straight face.
'90's X-Men cartoon by Chief Joseph	Nov 15th, 2008 02:23:14 AM
Had absolutely horrid Korean animation by AKOM. The character designs were good, as was the rest of it. I'd still watch it over that lame Evolutions show. The new one seems OK so far. Ironically, the best animated X-Men was Pryde of the X-Men done by Toei. (Lousy script, though,)
Kubrick Book by FilmZ0mbie	Nov 15th, 2008 02:50:00 AM
Wasn't that thing like 200 bucks? I never thought I'd own that thing. YOINK
Oh my Gods!! by buffywrestling	Nov 15th, 2008 04:30:43 AM
There are a ton of comic book guys in Coaxial!! Dogs & cats living together...Mass hysteria! PS: Alexander Skarsgard is Thor.
The 90s X-Men and Spider-Man, etc. by crankyoldguy	Nov 15th, 2008 09:36:26 AM
were true to comic book storylines, overall. Same with Fantastic Four (which got better better once they dumped the dopey theme song). They weren't on-par with BTAS, etc from DC end, but some the X-Men arcs (we have a stack of the VHS tapes), still hold up for kids, especially. The big question is why no boxed set DVDs of X-Men or Spider-Man or Iron Man or Hulk for that matter?
the best part about Marvel 60s cartoons... by crankyoldguy	Nov 15th, 2008 09:38:32 AM
were those theme songs. For us, ahem, older folks, it's just nostalgia as we were kidlets when we watched them. Basically Jack Kirby and Don Heck comic book cutouts moving.
Punch_Drunk by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Nov 15th, 2008 09:52:21 AM
It already did in a pitiful made for TV movie.
Only if there is a DethKlok Soundtrack. by brobdingnag	Nov 15th, 2008 11:19:53 AM
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MurderMost Fowl by Sith Witch	Nov 15th, 2008 11:39:26 AM
The ones you named are great if you're into anime, but I am not. I for one LOVE the Clone Wars animation.
FilmZ0mbie: by Sith Witch	Nov 15th, 2008 11:40:39 AM
This is the second pressing of the book, without the exclusive 70mm film frames of 2001. Thank God because that first run went up to $400 as soon as it was out-of-print.
I second the Clone Wars discussion by GunterMonkey	Nov 15th, 2008 12:45:23 PM
The show just keeps getting better...this weekend's episode was like a mini movie. It brings back the fun and adventure of classic Star Wars. Love the show--the haters are missing out on this one.
George Lucas sold Pixar. by I am the Terminator	Nov 15th, 2008 01:23:08 PM
so who gives a fuck.
EvilWizardGlick by Berserkr	Nov 15th, 2008 02:33:31 PM
Ya The Avengers Cartoon your talking about aired from October 30, 1999 to February 26, 2000 and was called The Avengers: United They Stand it only lasted 13 episodes, thank the gods for Wikipedia!!
Thirded Clone Wars TB by Chief Joseph	Nov 15th, 2008 04:36:49 PM
I'd trust you guys' reviews over the usual Lucas loyalists. If it really has improved, I'll try watching it.
'90s Marvel DVDs by Chief Joseph	Nov 15th, 2008 04:38:24 PM
Don't know if that was a rhetorical question or not, but the reason those shows aren't on DVD is because Disney owns them and Disney are bastards.
I could lift Thor's hammer. by malificus	Nov 15th, 2008 08:13:04 PM
Mighty Mjolnir...and bash every non-Thor lover out there. Thor is as tricky as Dr. Strange to pull off, you gotta really know what you're doing, my fingers are crossed but everyone's predeliction for "updating" everything makes this property pure poison for any douchebag trying to make some teen Thor skate-thrashing his extreme self through limited action toons while zinging out text speak like: OMO! (Oh My Odin!)
JOKER by jmac4ever	Nov 15th, 2008 08:25:53 PM
That's what we need. We need a hard-R DTV animated version of the latest Bermejo "Joker" graphic novel. It must be done.
New Star Trek trailer by darthvol	Nov 15th, 2008 09:16:18 PM
A bootleg of the Star Trek trailer is up at you tube see it before its gone. http://tiny.cc/x4j3K
darthvol by malificus	Nov 15th, 2008 09:39:41 PM
Thanks for the tip dude, I'm a HUGE O.S. fan and that was SWEET.
Chief Joseph by GunterMonkey	Nov 15th, 2008 10:43:45 PM
I do recommend Clone Wars, but you may want to jump in AFTER next weekend's episode...Apparently it is going to be Jar jar-centric, the first appearance (and hopefully last) of everyone's fav Gungan.
But Who Knows... by GunterMonkey	Nov 15th, 2008 10:44:54 PM
They may have some fun with Jar Jar in the new series, so we'll see...
GunterMonkey by Chief Joseph	Nov 15th, 2008 11:45:32 PM
I don't have cable, so I'll have to go to the trouble of either downloading or waiting to rent. That's why un-biased reviews are important to me.
Chief Joseph: by Sith Witch	Nov 16th, 2008 12:06:05 AM
You're in luck: starwars.com always streams the latest two episodes for free!
I love the 60's toons and I'll tell you why, even tho you didn't by malificus	Nov 16th, 2008 03:34:15 AM
Because in actuality they are basically crudely animated Kirby panels, and Kirby is to comics what God is to the universe, and so the 60's toons use actual Kirby panels, not Kirby models or hacks trying to draw like Kirby, but the pages themselves and the pages are awesome, and so thus to are the 'toons, Kirby awesome. "You'll behold in breathless wonder, the God of Thunder, Mighty Thor!"
Chief Joseph by Keeper Of Chimps	Nov 16th, 2008 07:06:54 AM
Last weeks episode was great - and I am someone who hated the movie this summer. They've all been pretty good and progressively getting better. I also like that they keep using OT score during key parts.
J.J. Binks 4 Prez... learn your history. by MurderMostFowl	Nov 16th, 2008 11:11:55 AM
Wow. drop to lowest common denominator, huh? Lucas didn't do shit with Pixar. John Lasseter is the hero of Pixar, and the (sometimes reluctant) backer was Steve Jobs. George Lucas did not realize the power of his own creation, much like he treats Star Wars. I am not an anime freak. I enjoy good animation of any source. I quite clearly say that Pixar and Disney produce good animation. I said no one else in the US does good TV animation. Branch out a little bit. Anime is not a fixed genre. There is good and bad within it just like any other thing. Would it be fair to me to say I don't like American animation just because "American Dad" sucks?
sigh by MurderMostFowl	Nov 16th, 2008 12:57:15 PM
Seriously dude, lay off the trolling. I bested you. You tried to bitchslap me thinking you knew your stuff, but you didn't do your research.
60s Marvel cartoons and Kirby by Odkin	Nov 16th, 2008 03:10:52 PM
I really enjoyed the actual Kirby drawings coming to life. It's funny that although Colan and Heck and others were also similarly "animated", only Kirby's looked like they were moving although they actually weren't. The MOST funny part of the cartoons is the spelled-out sound effects. Are "KER-AACK!" and "RUMBLE!" really necessary in a sound cartoon?
MMF you are the worst type of fanboy by Keeper Of Chimps	Nov 16th, 2008 07:48:25 PM
I'm sorry George Lucas has hurt you so bad.
Keeper Of Chimps, glad you came back by MurderMostFowl	Nov 16th, 2008 08:19:28 PM
George Lucas didn't hurt me, I'm just saddened that he doesn't feel the world deserves something better than Clone Wars. Don't think I'm bitter about Star Wars itself. It is just such a deep universe, it's a shame the only things to come out of it have been so shallow lately. Clone wars has been not bad story wise... I was knocking the animation, not the stories. Why expect so little? Why shouldn't a Star Wars story have the best animation quality?
Rotoscope, yo by a rolling stone	Nov 16th, 2008 09:01:49 PM
I always wanted to see a rotoscoped Avengers, or a rotoscoped JLA. I guess with the live action Avengers coming, I'm leaning towards the rotoscoped JLA.
HHH by a rolling stone	Nov 16th, 2008 09:02:31 PM
oh, and everyone i talk to thinks Triple H should play Thor, but can he act? I haven't seen enough of him in real acting roles to make a decision.
Oh yeah, and... by a rolling stone	Nov 16th, 2008 09:03:38 PM
Anybody remember that Bill Bixby Hulk movie where there was this nerd who called Thor into our universe whenever he was in trouble? Lame-O. They were testing the waters for a spin-off, I heard, though nothing...uh, spun.
And another thing... by a rolling stone	Nov 16th, 2008 09:04:37 PM
If anyone's wondering why I keep posting, I'm trying to knock Scriptgirl off the top talkbacks. That chic annoys me. Go, Thor!
MurderMostFowl is right. by I am the Terminator	Nov 16th, 2008 11:22:33 PM
the animation in Clone Wars sucks. Simple as that. Move on losers.
J.J. Binks - You're on drugs by holden_oz	Nov 17th, 2008 02:51:52 AM
Sorry to come right out and say that, I've never insulted people on these boards, not once (as far as I can remember,) but reading your posts J.J. Binks, and seeing how you're insulting people left right and centre, I just couldn't help it. And I'm not talking about the Pixar/lucas debate, I could care less. Thor is F#*ing Brilliant in The Ultimates and if they want a character that has broad appeal, they'll use the Ultimate Thor for the movie and the cartoon. Everything about the Ultimate version of Thor is awesome. He kicked BUTT in Ultimates 2. He made a kick ass book even better. The costume is up to date, (no cape, no stupid helmet) and very simple. His mental state is intriguing and could make for a great film. (I fear they'll screw it up though.) As I said, I've not insulted on these, or any, boards before, but just had to put in my two cents. I await your raging response.
Fuck anyone picking on the Sixties cartoons! by Big Dumb Ape	Nov 17th, 2008 03:23:10 AM
I have a news flash and a reality check for some of you: that YouTube clip from the Sixties utilizing Stan Lee script and Jack Kirby's art -- as primitive as it was for just shaking the art and all -- STILL has FAR more grandeur and scope and emotion to it than that ultra shitty clip from that laughably bad HULK vs THOR direct to DVD bullshit. Stan and Jack still own Marvel's ass! They'll NEVER be topped!
HAHAHA.... awesome by holden_oz	Nov 17th, 2008 04:23:38 PM
That was a lot more contained than I was expecting, J.J... Kudos. First up, I'm 30 years old, married, professional, with a mortgage but no kids. As far as comic book knowledge though... well... it's debatable. I've only been reading comics for the last fifteen years (i.e. not since I was a kid) and my tastes aren't that wide ranging, BUT... I do try to sample as many writers or artists as I can. So, very little comic book knowledge? No, I wouldn't say that, but I also wouldn't say I'm well versed in all areas. Never read a single manga, for example. And, I admit, I'm fairly new to the Marvel Universe... there, I said it. Always read more 'out there' books like most of the Vertigo line. I own and worship just about everything Alan Moore has done (so we agree there) although I'm yet to be really blown away by Morrison's stuff. (I think Animal Man has been my favourite so far) (Haven't read Doom Patrol yet.) I, like you, prefer actually creativity over buzzwords, certainly... It's just, I'm really enjoying the Ultimate line as it's easy for someone like me, whose not been reading Marvel Universe books their whole lives, to jump into. I can certainly see where you're coming from though, some aspects of the Ultimate world are just plain bad. I picked up Ultimate Daredevil the other day. It was awful. BUT... I utterly enjoyed Ultimates 1 and 2, (haven't read 3) and would be really interested about what you didn't like about them. What I do take issue with, (in your comment), is "the latest Bendis piece-of-shit" Have you read Alias? Powers? For someone who prefers creativity and imagination... I'd have thought you'd enjoy what he's doing with comics. If you're ONLY seeing Bendis as Secret Invasion Man, then you're not looking far enough. Last point: You talk about Kirby and Moore and Morrison rather than whoever's 'hot' right now... sure. I respect that. BUT... take Daredevil for example. I STARTED with Bendis' run. Fell in love with the character, the art, (Mack and Maleev) and just ate it all up. Heard about 'The Greats' who created Daredevil and made him who he was. Stan Lee, and Frank Miller. So I read their stuff... you know what... not that great. Love Miller, don't get me wrong. (Well, like is a better word, Dark Knight Returns, of course, and some others, but still think he's over rated.) And I know he was just starting out when he worked on Daredevil, and I know he IMPROVED it a HELL of a lot... but the best parts were still just kinda ok. I realise comics were different back then, still evolving, absolutely... but I'm not into worshipping the past as if they're better than what's coming out now. Respect it, certainly. Without them, we wouldn't have anything... but Alan Moore said it best with "Whereas the Stan Lee stuff, the Marvel comics, he went from one dimensional characters whose only characteristic was they dressed up in costumes and did good. Whereas Stan Lee had this huge breakthrough of two-dimensional characters. So, they dress up in costumes and do good, but they've got a bad heart. Or a bad leg." So, no, I'm not a youngster. No, I know 'a bit' about comics, but not as much as you perhaps. And yes, I respect where Thor has come from, completely. But for a mass audience, the Ultimate Thor is the way to go. Taken the design and improved upon it. In my opinion. Cheers
About the Clone Wars animation... by Keeper Of Chimps	Nov 17th, 2008 04:44:28 PM
Its not really my bag, but I don't think its bad. I'd much rather have a 2D series like the 2003 mini episodes. Some of you act like its "Rudolf and the Island of Misfit Toys". What is MUCH more important is that with Clone Wars - you have some really good stories, characterizations, and action scenes. Watching these things with my 5 year old is absolutely great. Now that the Clone Troopers have personalities, it throws a whole new element on the Star Wars universe.

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