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MacGuyver uses bubblegum & a paperclip to see Michael Mann's PUBLIC ENEMIES over half a year early!

Looking forward to this one... by I_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looki ng_for	Nov 13th, 2008 05:14:43 AM
Mann's f'ing great.
No it's not to late by TinDrummer	Nov 13th, 2008 05:29:38 AM
Do you think that spoiled my movie experience, Mac? Here's hoping this film will be as good as I expect it to be. Mann is brilliant and so is that cast.
better than Miami Vice? by kwisatzhaderach	Nov 13th, 2008 05:33:52 AM
cool, Miami Vice was one of the best films of 06.
I liked Miami Vice by RobFromBackEast	Nov 13th, 2008 05:51:32 AM
And Michael Mann is the best director working in mainstream cinema today. Fact. Only Fincher comes close. This also looks fucking fantastic.
Count me in as looking forward to this. by mrfan	Nov 13th, 2008 06:16:33 AM
Sounds great. Read the book and glad to see it being made in a movie.
I didn't like the "digital factor" about Miami Vice by Maniaq	Nov 13th, 2008 06:25:16 AM
all that night time stuff was grainy as fuck and reminded me of videos I capture with my cell phone. I was hoping Mann would have graduated to a 4k RED camera by now - or maybe he has and they're still just not good enough? I'm told the transfer to film (for the theatres) is largely responsible for that granularity - does that mean some asshole with a BluRay will get a better picture than what I lay down hard-earned to watch at the movies will see?
Miami Vice digital photography by AdmiralNeck	Nov 13th, 2008 06:52:13 AM
I'm on the love side of the MV photography divide. That visual texture, and the stunning colours of the night sky, were beautiful. I can't wait to see this damn movie.
JULY 1ST? by THE KNIGHT	Nov 13th, 2008 07:14:05 AM
Pretty bold move! I guess this film has a hell of a lot of action huh! Funny I was watching HEAT last night once it came in the mail and damn what a good movie. It's always a pleasure watching Mann's character work. And those shootouts! Shit!
I like Miami Vice, love Heat. by RighteousBrother	Nov 13th, 2008 07:17:27 AM
don't mind the digi photography in Vice, but not sure about it being used in a period film.
not me Mann by diyfilm	Nov 13th, 2008 07:21:47 AM
This was shot all digital. The only things that weren't digi was super slow effects shots. Not sure if it was the redone or if its just some flyby bs that won't last as long as real film. I can't tell you haow much I don't want to see this Hollywood fuckin (the verb) Chicago movie. One person on the production was heard to say "Chicago, moves at 50%" yeah well fuck you! Chicago helped make dark knight tons of fucking money so nawh
You had me at "Mann Shootout" by Stuntcock Mike	Nov 13th, 2008 08:10:12 AM
I'm there opening day.
Michael Mann is a genius. by SkidMarkedUndies	Nov 13th, 2008 08:10:14 AM
I'm sure this will rock!
One of the only films this summer... by Redfive!	Nov 13th, 2008 08:28:10 AM
That im actually looking foward to.Wolverine might be good,but every other movie this summer seems like a crappy-unnessesary sequel.
Hope it rocks! by Shadow Warrior	Nov 13th, 2008 08:36:21 AM
Bale and Mann... hell yeah!!!
"Falls in love with her (rather quickly)" by filmcoyote	Nov 13th, 2008 08:49:14 AM
I fell in love with Marion Cotillard about 10 seconds after she appeared on screen in Big Fish and Depp is no slouch in the looks and charm department so i would think falling in love slowly would be more implausible with these two. And I'm not saying Ali is a great film or anything but he's not seriously saying that turgid mess Miami Vice was better than Ali is he?
I'm bored of Christian Bale by jenkis	Nov 13th, 2008 09:00:24 AM
He plays the same 'serious man on a mission in everything'. I loved Dark Knight, but maybe he could loosen up once in a while.
Well they say play to your strengths by filmcoyote	Nov 13th, 2008 09:06:40 AM
Bale is famously a humorless ass in person, like Edward Norton, Robert DeNiro, Val Kilmer and many others, who takes himself far too seriously. It makes him (and Norton and DeNiro, though not Kilmer) a brilliant actor though so i guess i shouldn't complain. Don't expect to see him do a rom com anytime soon though.
The Digital worked for me in Vice... by ZoeFan	Nov 13th, 2008 09:34:03 AM
It made it more real and raw. And I'm a HATER of Digital. However, this film is a different animal. I am extremelly interested to see how Mann uses it.
Mann and Digital Cameras by thesinofthesky	Nov 13th, 2008 09:49:10 AM
Seriously- if Michael Mann used digital cameras to film morbidly obese people playing Wheel of Fortune- I know it'd be interesting and I'd happily watch it. That being said- Where's the love for "Collateral"? Despite the semi lame duck third act, that's a seriously underrated movie piece of movie making, and it was the first film shot wholly with digital cameras. That being said- Mann needs to direct a "Gates of Fire" movie, and he needs to do it soon.
Miami Vice is an underrated masterpiece by fitz-hume	Nov 13th, 2008 09:50:03 AM
One of the absolute best movies of 2006. If Public Enemies is even better I'm pleased.
Yo Jenkis ....For a good laugh watch American Psycho by masteryoda007	Nov 13th, 2008 09:55:04 AM
Bale cracks me up in that movie. I just watched it again a few weeks ago it was excellent.
You know what also looked weird on dig vid? by Christopher3	Nov 13th, 2008 10:10:37 AM
Apocalypto.
All Pretty-Boys, All the Time by Aquatarkusman	Nov 13th, 2008 10:13:24 AM
Check out Dillinger with Lawrence Tierney, or Dillinger with Warren Oates as JD and Ben Johnson as Melvin Purvis. When there was such a thing as character-actors. To be fair, however, Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway were much better-looking than the real Bonnie and Clyde.
bale can act funny by pcassou	Nov 13th, 2008 10:16:15 AM
In shaft he was a total prick, and in batman begins threre a couple of scenes where he was having a blast, the one with the models and in his party. Maybe in a couple of years he can do a comedy, an R rated one, not a rom com, he would be really great
Mann, digital and period piece by skimn	Nov 13th, 2008 10:26:15 AM
I don't know if Deakins shot Oh Brother in digital and fixed the color in post production. Or shot on film and fixed the color digitally in post. But couldn't Mann do that here. I think that digital might be distracting, especially for a period piece. Unless, he going for his documentary feel, instead of a more classic look.
Thief by I_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looki ng_for	Nov 13th, 2008 10:31:43 AM
is another in the long line of great Mann films. With James Caan in his prime.
Re:Thief by skimn	Nov 13th, 2008 10:38:51 AM
And a great role for Jim (or James) Belushi, right alongside Stone's Salvador. The guy COULD act. Back then.
My most anticipated for '09 by Reckoner	Nov 13th, 2008 10:47:20 AM
I have really high expectations for this. Heat is one of my all-time favorites, Depp & Bale are two of my favorite actors, and they are attached to a true-crime story with a director who knows crime like no other. After all the editing, score, etc is put in, this will be a can't miss movie. I skipped much of the review because I want to go in not knowing anything.
The directing of Miami Vice was fine by Garbageman33	Nov 13th, 2008 11:01:36 AM
The acting was shit. Colin Farrell and Jamie Foxx were straining so hard to be cool, but they just ended up looking constipated. Like they went the whole shoot without taking a shit.
I agree Miami Vice is great on second viewing by Stormwatcher	Nov 13th, 2008 11:08:06 AM
Great score, being stolen by everyone else. If you were a fan of the series, Vice was the best possible homage to that show in modern times. Mann's my favorite director period. Mohicans my favorite film.
"I finally told him to shut up or I'd call the theater manager." by SomaShine	Nov 13th, 2008 11:19:18 AM
Lol..yeah sure you did. I'm sure you told Michael Mann to shut up. "Excuse me theater manager, MICHAEL MANN - the Director of the film that is being screened is kicking my chair and talking, please ask him to stop or leave" Hahaha.
A friend of mine worked on this by rhcp2sweet	Nov 13th, 2008 11:20:42 AM
He was an extra in a scene that involved swing dancing. He said that he got to meet Johnny Depp and that he was an extremely nice guy. He worked on the movie for about five days and each of those days he worked until 6-7 in the morning. Mann apparently, is a hardcore perfectionist.
man i tell you by Ace of Knaves	Nov 13th, 2008 11:43:55 AM
between depp as dillinger, bale as purvis, and what, now fucking CRUDUP as HOOVER, theyve really gone out of their way to flatter men who were surely some plain looking motherfuckers when they walked the earth in real life.
In Apatow's next film after Funny People by Thrillho77	Nov 13th, 2008 11:44:59 AM
Christian Bale could play a womanizing, swinger friend to the group of "average" guys. I don't know if that sounds awesome or terrible. Think of the menage scene in American Psycho, but without the chainsaw drop at the end?
Warren Oates as Dillinger was probably by skimn	Nov 13th, 2008 12:06:32 PM
as spot on visual casting as you could get.
To the people that hated Miami Vice by ZoeFan	Nov 13th, 2008 12:13:16 PM
I really don't get. The main complaints generally are the interaction between Crockett and Tubbs or the fact that it was shot in digital. I would argue though, that "real life" Crockett and Tubbs (undercover cops) react to each other in a fashion that is closer to that of Fox and Farrell as opposed to Don Johnson and Philip Michael Thomas. I would also say the digital look makes the film look more real - which Mann was going for.
skimn, truly by Ace of Knaves	Nov 13th, 2008 12:14:50 PM
that film is great, i know it should be about the actor's performance, but its so much easier to sell when the person actually looks like who theyre playing. I am never going to b e able to connect chiseled, Miclealangelean Crudup with roly-poly, frog-eyed Hoocver
rhcp2sweet... by ZoeFan	Nov 13th, 2008 12:15:52 PM
From what I've been told and read, working for Mann is strenuous. Like a notch easier than working for Michael Bay or James Cameron.
William Gibson by abetyler	Nov 13th, 2008 12:17:06 PM
I truly think Michael Mann should make a movie based upon Gibson's first books. Sure it'd nails your balls on the table!
Ace by skimn	Nov 13th, 2008 12:37:19 PM
I know our common knowledge of Hoover is of his later years, when his appearance was that of a bridge troll, but in his early years, the time frame of Dillinger, he was a fairly normal looking, even handsome man. Not Billy Crudup handsome mind you, but I know exactly what you mean. If Bonnie and Clyde looked like Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty, people would have lined up to get robbed by them.
They had me at Depp, Bale, Mann. by yomomma	Nov 13th, 2008 12:40:06 PM

Billy Crudup as Hoover by skimn	Nov 13th, 2008 12:47:24 PM
At some point does he say...Lipstick and rouge 4.95...Summer maumau dress 19.95...head of the FBI..priceless.
Funniest story I read about Michael Mann by Vern	Nov 13th, 2008 12:51:37 PM
was about him contacting Moby to do the soundtrack for Heat. Supposedly Moby just answered the phone "Hello," Michael Mann said "This is Michael Mann," talked about Heat for 45 minutes straight, and then hung up. This story could very well be an exaggeration, but he's such a pretentious blowhard on those commentary tracks that I believe it is literally true. That's also why I could almost believe the joke in the review about Mann smacking bubblegum and talking on his cell phone during his own movie. I love his movies though and can't wait for this one. And I'm glad to see I'm not the only one around here who liked Miami Vice. That movie gets a bum rap.
Clyde Barrow actually was a looker by Ace of Knaves	Nov 13th, 2008 01:19:18 PM
almost rivalling beatty id say
Ace by skimn	Nov 13th, 2008 02:01:11 PM
I Wiki'd them and I'd have to say Bonnie Parker was quite the looker. Clyde Barrow, not so much..there's one angle that makes him look more like Casey Siemaszko than Warren Beatty. But, anywho...
Looking forward to this. by otm shank	Nov 13th, 2008 02:53:27 PM
Mann's great. Loved Miami Vice. Heat is epic.
"Sick on BluRay" by skimn	Nov 13th, 2008 03:41:12 PM
Rowdy is that a good sick, or a bad sick? I'm assuming good, right?
Are Bonnie and Clyde in this movie by Ace of Knaves	Nov 13th, 2008 04:09:21 PM
They were in the spectacular book its baesed on.....
Bring on Babyface Nelson by drewlicious	Nov 13th, 2008 04:33:12 PM
Now there was a scary guy. When I read part in the book about that shootout with the feds I thought that would be a killerr scene.
Marion Cotillard by Thrillho77	Nov 13th, 2008 04:36:09 PM
is a really attractive woman.
so I'm not the only one then? by Maniaq	Nov 13th, 2008 05:10:03 PM
I must admit I didn't notice so much washed out grainy footage on Collateral but it REALLY grated on Miami Vice. Maybe because the daytime stuff looked just fine so it was a matter of comparison. If you didn't notice it then good for you because once you do start to notice it... well it practically RUINED the film for me. Maybe WNB is right and he just needs to find a better DoP who knows who to shoot low light with digital - whoever Fincher is using? In the end it's only a minor complaint and one I'll forgive because you gotta expect some teething problems whenever you're adopting new tech. I just hope he LEARNS from his past mistakes and actually does something about it for this and other future projects...
"1930s Heat" by Ravetin	Nov 13th, 2008 05:13:43 PM
I don't know if I really love, or really loathe that idea. Though i think the idea of Mann carrying his digital look to a period piece is cool. And why the FUCK is there so little Collateral love on this TB? Easily his second best after Heat.
video vs. film by BadMrWonka	Nov 13th, 2008 05:27:40 PM
so many people don't understand the differences. you might be able to "feel" that there's a difference, but there are few scenarios where there is a real, specific difference in the performance of the film vs digital. look at the club scene in "Collateral", there is a scene that would have been utterly different on film. same with a lot of the low light night shots in the taxi, where the digital picks up so much more of the background and gives everything a glowing kind of feel. when this reviewer writes: "the image was blown out in bright light and reminded me that it was video." it shows that just like most other people, he has ZERO idea of what is going on technically and cinematographically with the digital print. you might as well say, "the midget slamdunked the basketball and reminded me he was tall." makes ZERO sense.
digital 30s sounds awesome by Ace of Knaves	Nov 13th, 2008 05:32:58 PM
im a big buff on the period, itll be good to see it through modern eyes, not all dressed up with an affected artificial look, itll be more like were seeing the actual events in the real world, like the one we live in , just with different clothes and cars. Because thats what the 30s was, it happened on this planet, in our reality.
Mann was fined by union by jah_kingdom	Nov 13th, 2008 05:39:14 PM
I have a friend who worked on the production of Public Enemy and said Mann was fined by the union for over working his crew. As the production went on Johnny Depp became more concerned at the mistreatment of the crew and eventually got into an argument with Mann about him being such a dictator. Everyone who worked on that said it was a bitch. Factoid: Mann is from Chicago.
Ali and Miami Vice were AWESOME by StraightToHell	Nov 14th, 2008 12:12:43 AM
films. I just don't get it. I loved them both before Mann did his director's cut for DVD, and they got even better for it. I have a feeling the both films will get more credit with age. Both have spectacular acting and both have some of Mann's best directing and writing. I can't be the only one who thinks so.
and Thief is still one of the greatest by StraightToHell	Nov 14th, 2008 12:21:41 AM
characters studies/crime films ever made. Cann's greates performance by far, and some of the best and most quotable dialogue of Mann's career. The Willie Nelson scene is a masterpiece of subtlety and grace. "Lie to no one. If they're a friend you'll ruin it with a lie. If they're a stranger, then who the fuck are they you gotta lie to?" Brilliant.
Ravetin I second that about Collateral by StraightToHell	Nov 14th, 2008 12:34:07 AM
Easily Mann's best film after Thief and Heat. I don't care what people say about the third act. If you listen to Mann's commentary on the DVD all of the choices he made for the movie make logical sense. It's way more complicated than a simple psycho hitman chasing Jamie Foxx. Everything that Cruise does in the movie make total sense. And his final scene "Guy gets on an MTA and dies. Think anyone will notice?" is one of the best character reveal moments I've ever seen. It makes the movie and give Cruise a whole different side as a human being. it's both touching and heartbraking at the same time. and the scene in the alley, where Cruise takes out the two idiots in less than 2 seconds if astonishing. One of the best depiction of rea-life combat I've ever seen. Mann is a genius.
Mann= genius director by CardPlayer	Nov 14th, 2008 04:23:37 AM
THIEF,THE KEEP,MANHUNTER,THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS,HEAT,THE INSIDER,ALI,COLLATERAL,MIAMI VICE: Mann can do now wrong,IMO. My favorite Mann film: MANHUNTER. I also love THE INSIDER,THIEF,COLLATERAL and THE KEEP (flawed of course,but unique and visually striking) MANHUNTER and ALI are underrated films!
Just saw The Keep for the first time by StraightToHell	Nov 14th, 2008 05:04:08 AM
in widescreen DVD from a Japanese import and it's a pretty stunning film. I'm sure that it was even more stunning before asswhipes at Paramount had Mann pull a Blade Runner on the movie and chop the shit out of it (since the original cut was almost 3 hours long). But even in the present form it has some of the most amazing imagery Mann has ever done. The scene where the monster comes out of the fog is incredibly striking. When are we going to get a fucking SE DVD on this already? How many Star Wars editions are we gonna get before getting a real one for a movie that is way more interesting than Star Wars is anymore.
Vern by SomaShine	Nov 14th, 2008 11:35:38 AM
I believe he was smacking his gum and talking on his phone. What I don't believe is Macguyver turning around and telling him to shut up - lol.
SomaShine by watch_the_world_burn	Nov 14th, 2008 12:29:28 PM
Moron

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