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by mulberry
Nov 13th, 2008
12:55:23 AM
Is the loneliest ordinal.
I think I will survive
by slimballs
Nov 13th, 2008
01:02:22 AM
His character is funny but I don't think I'd miss him
Won't miss him
by Don Lockwood
Nov 13th, 2008
01:08:07 AM
I don't think I'll miss him on-screen. I think they kind of painted him into a corner and there's nowhere else for the character to go unless they want to redeem him for some reason and seriously, is this a show about redemption? I didn't think so.
Exactly
by Ironthorman
Nov 13th, 2008
01:24:19 AM
He had some very humorous parts for his time, but at this point I think his character peaked and he's kind of just going through the motions now.
NOOOO
by PirateEmery
Nov 13th, 2008
01:25:58 AM
I for one will miss The Kid.
Gotta say, I'm agreeing with the TB so far. Creepy.
by JumpinJehosaphat
Nov 13th, 2008
01:28:50 AM
I think he'll do better to retire the character and write. Now, cue the people who will start shouting about the American Office being worse than the Original in 3.... 2.... 1....
I was surprised to see him back at all.
by Kurutteru Yatsu
Nov 13th, 2008
01:36:23 AM
Not sure how I feel about Toby returning either. My main concern at the moment is that they're going to drag out the Jim and Pam ordeal instead of, god forbid, simply letting them get married and be happy.
Yeah, I don't know why they brought him back this series.
by biggerjohn
Nov 13th, 2008
01:38:03 AM
He hasn't done sweet f. all.
I agree. He won't be missed.
by Imagikafan
Nov 13th, 2008
01:42:12 AM
I was surprised they brought him back, as well.
more time for Creed
by wash
Nov 13th, 2008
01:51:51 AM
yay
I will miss him
by Dapper Swindler
Nov 13th, 2008
02:19:22 AM
His character development has been incredible. He's a perfect character to offset Michael Scott. See he was presented to us as the normal, straightman character, like Jim. But we eventually learn that even though he seems normal, he has issues of his own. His evil and ambitious rise to power and his downfall. Now the guy who once seemed like the most normal seems to have lost his mind.

I think his character arc demonstrates what I believe is the overall theme of The Office - there is no normal. Michael isn't the crazy boss, Jim isn't the normal joe - although that's what you are supposed to think at first. But then you slowly realize that they are all just human beings with distinct personalities. Different issues, ideas, beliefs, etc. None of them are perfect.

anyone attempting to say
by Ace of Knaves
Nov 13th, 2008
02:20:57 AM
that the meandering wry-fest that is british office is an anyway better than the unbridled hilarity that is our stateside brand, is merely attempting to look cultured. Brilliant writing, direction and comedic acting unrivaled anywhere on the small screen. Carell is a genius. "game. set .match......point.....Scott... ..game over.......end of game."
heh heh...his name is B.J.
by bowtiehoon
Nov 13th, 2008
02:27:13 AM
I've kind of missed Toby and his creepy weaselness
by Spifftacular Squirrel Girl
Nov 13th, 2008
02:29:33 AM
Ryan was a good character when he was the temp stuck in office hell and couldn't escape. The second he was promoted that should have been the end of his character.
Nothing against the first four seasons of Ryan...
by beastie
Nov 13th, 2008
06:11:57 AM
... or B.J.'s writing, but.. yeah. I agree that the character is over.
bring back amy ryan!
by lex romero
Nov 13th, 2008
06:14:43 AM
Let Micheal be happy! Getting rid of her just confirms that the show runners don't really want the characters to grow or change, they'd rather keep the status quo as it's easier to be funny with the way it is now with micheal unhappy, than it would be with him in a happy relationship.
Ryan should walk out of the shower, and it was a DREAM!
by Lenny8
Nov 13th, 2008
06:49:41 AM
His character was always a self-indulgent bit of "writing myself into the show's credits" trick anyway, like Kelly, too. On The Office, its clear the writers should write, and let the actors be the actors.
that is too bad!
by Judge Briggs
Nov 13th, 2008
07:07:34 AM
Amy Ryan:
by gambit237
Nov 13th, 2008
07:08:57 AM
I agree; the Holly character was hilarious and her and Mike made a good couple.
Why he gets a starring credit I'll never know
by Larry Sellers
Nov 13th, 2008
07:11:05 AM
I'll miss Michael's creepy moments with Ryan. "Jim's been staring at me all day, but it's nothing compared to the way Michael stares at me." I also enjoyed Ryan's "I played for keeps" speech last week. I was curious to see where he'd go this season, but it's time for some lasting changes on this show. Amy Ryan gone after 6 episodes? Weird. Toby's coming back. In an interview, Amy and Paul evaded a question about his return and a possible conflict between Holly and Toby.
At those prices, HD-DVD will win the format war!
by tonagan
Nov 13th, 2008
07:12:13 AM
What?
They went too fast with Ryan
by ThrowMeTheIdol
Nov 13th, 2008
07:15:04 AM
His temp character rising up high in the company would have been a good end for the series but they rushed it.
He contributes very little, plus....
by Cletus Van Damme
Nov 13th, 2008
07:31:16 AM
...he looks like a cross between a vampire and a midget.
They should have kept him doing coke.
by Nice Marmot
Nov 13th, 2008
07:36:57 AM
That was interesting. Depressing and weird, but still interesting. Otherwise they never did shit w/ his character before or after his rise to the executive level. Anybody else getting tired of this show?
Does anybody else feel...
by Flyingcircus
Nov 13th, 2008
08:13:12 AM
...like this show has lost its spark? It used to be really funny and now it's just depressing. A lot of the "humor" is people being miserable or getting destroyed. It's not the playful goofball fun it used to be.
Amy Ryan will be back.
by Kurutteru Yatsu
Nov 13th, 2008
08:16:18 AM
I think she's supposed to return for a few episodes at the end of the season. After that I hope they can convince her to stick around.
GOOD!
by Dwide Shrewd
Nov 13th, 2008
08:20:46 AM
Get rid of the egomaniacal little fuck. I always hated his character. He went from smug, unfunny temp to smug, unfunny exec and back. The only thing ever funny about his character was Michael's mancrush on him. Or that he "started the fire". And he was only indirectly involved in that.
Agreed. Move on.
by snowpuff
Nov 13th, 2008
08:53:02 AM
I agree that I was surprised to see Novak's character return - at least in a regular capacity. I am also surprised that Toby will return. The show needs to mature and let some characters move on.
Someone made a huge mess in our office too
by GrandMuffTarkin
Nov 13th, 2008
09:09:36 AM
But it was in the bathroom. And we knew who it was, considering he was the one who used the shitter right before the mess. It was ridiculous. It looked like someone packed a hand grenade in crap and pulled the pin. Noone wanted to use the bathroom after that, and we only had one terlet (loft office, dot.com days.) This guy kinda looked like Harry, and had to sit down to wait for the elevator to come. Nasty.
Strange story arc
by sapno_krei
Nov 13th, 2008
09:28:42 AM
It's strange what happened to Ryan. Episode one was his first day on the job, and typically a show will follow that character as the hero (like Dr. Carter on ER). Instead, they had Ryan go the way of Wesley Crusher.
"ready to move on?"
by Charlie Murphy
Nov 13th, 2008
09:40:51 AM
"yeah, thanks Office, for making a career for me, but i'm ready to move on..." although truthfully, this year he's done not very much as an actor, i would be disappointed if he left as a writer.
Ryan was never the funniest character
by WerePlatypus
Nov 13th, 2008
10:11:17 AM
But he was the perfect foil for Michael, and his reactions used to be the funniest pasts of any episode. Now that the "Hottest in the Office" has fallen, there isn't anything left for him to do. I actually feel the same way about Andy. . . his story arc was getting from Standford to Anger Management. Once he came back, he just wasn't funny anymore. His relationship with Angela isn't even sad. . . it's just mean.
Think they should bump
by eustisclay
Nov 13th, 2008
10:29:49 AM
Ryan...
by eustisclay
Nov 13th, 2008
10:31:28 AM
to the loading dock. Get him jealous over Kelly and quit for good. Or have him stealing from the dock to support coke habit and have Michael have to fire him.
Jim + Pam
by DocBosch
Nov 13th, 2008
10:52:05 AM
I don't get people who say they should just let Jim and Pam be happy and not introduce anymore conflict in their relationship, because that would be "realistic". Of course they shouldn't go do the Sam/Diane, Ross/Rachal contrived on/off thing. That would be ridiculous. Jim and Pam have one of the most realistic friendships/courtships/relatio nships ever depicted on TV, but even the most mundan, seeminly perfect couples have problems. And it's always the little problems thst seem like huge ones when your in one of those relationships. Yeah, don't have them cheat on each other or have dramatic arguments, but having them wonder and doubt if their seemingly perfect union is right is realistic the the exact type of conflict for the show. Last weeks ending, with Pam's conversation with her male friend, was tough because it made us and Jim wonder if their relationship was flawed. Jim used to be the one that encouraged Pams art, while Roy stood in the way. But is Jim now the one holding her back? Pam's male friend seems just as nice and funny and average and as concerned for Pam as Jim. Is Jim now Roy, and are we now rooting for "Roy" and against "Jim"? The show is trying to defy our expectations, which is the right type of coflict and drama. Just "letting them be happy" would be the most unrealistic and unsstisfying thing they could do.
Was Ryan's first season as the temp
by skimn
Nov 13th, 2008
10:55:47 AM
the audience surrogate? Even Jim, the most "normal" of the office mates, had his own rhythm and methods to work in the "wacky work environment". So did the network feel we needed a "newbie" to ease us in..? If so, job, done, done and done.
The show has run out of ideas
by BobParr
Nov 13th, 2008
11:24:15 AM
The British office was only two seasons so the boss could be an idiot and get fired at the end. The romance/sexual tension thing was also perfect for two seasons.

Jim and Pam had a great story arc but it's boring now. Jim seems to have run out of things to do as well. I thought Ryan was hilarious as the arrogant, cokehead boss but he's useless returning as a temp. Dwight has become a cartoon. I enjoyed Andy when he was a douchebag but now I just feel sorry for him.

Once again those deleted scenes should have stayed
by Mel Gibsteinberg
Nov 13th, 2008
11:25:14 AM
Remember last season how the first like four or five episodes were hour long? I sort of miss that much Office. These deleted scenes couldn't extend the show a full hour, but add just a bit more and they would have. There is so much material in there, and I love the dynamic of Phyllis and Stanley as friends, its both funny, endearing, and cleverly realistic. Working in a corporate office, I have seen the strangest alliances form, often simply due to two weirdos stuck by themselves in an area and forced to be friends because of lack of understanding from everyone else.
Ryan's character should have stayed gone, done a Cameo
by chromedome
Nov 13th, 2008
11:40:56 AM
and a season or two later, they should have Jim and Pam in a McD's Drivethru and have him hand the burger bag out the window wearing his headset....
DocBosch
by yomomma
Nov 13th, 2008
11:49:17 AM
I want them to just let Pam and Jim be, because I'm sick of the tired sexual tension cliche EVERY SHOW has to play out for 10 seasons before they finally get together in the final season. In the same show, we have still Michael/Holly/Jan, Andy/Dwight/Angela, and now Ryan/Kelly/Darryl. We DO NOT NEED ANOTHER LOVE TRIANGLE, and we do not need any more romance drama. This show has it in spades. Jim and Pam are the least funny of the romances anyway, and I tune in for the funny. Making them happy (for at least a while) lets the other more improbable and funny relationships take center stage.
Besides
by yomomma
Nov 13th, 2008
11:54:47 AM
If Pam goes for college dude in any sort of romantic capacity, her character will basically be reduced to an opportunistc whore/slut, leaving a wake of broken hearts in her wake. She is one of the few sympathetic characters in this show. Who wants to root for a whore?
Yup, Ryan should not have come back.
by badboymason
Nov 13th, 2008
11:55:50 AM
New blood is needed - Ryan's character is done, Toby was kind of wryly amusing but not "ha ha" funny, Andy was fricking hilarious when he was the "super dwight" trying to outdo him and was mega-obnoxious. Now he's just mildly cocky and irritating. ------------------------------ ---- My recipe would be to look back to the British Office and do something like the Neil character from Season 2 - a new corporate manager who everyone loves and Michael feels pushed aside by, driving him to even more insane attempts to get people to like him. Let them go to darker places as UK did with Michael being snapped to breaking point as his new management realizes they don't really want/need him. For casting, go back to the daily show pool and get Jason Jones or Rob Riggle onboard.
badboymason
by yomomma
Nov 13th, 2008
11:58:22 AM
I like that idea. Rob Cordry is currently between gigs...
Jim + Pam
by DocBosch
Nov 13th, 2008
12:20:45 PM
I don't get people who say they should just let Jim and Pam be happy and not introduce anymore conflict in their relationship, because that would be "realistic". Of course they shouldn't go do the Sam/Diane, Ross/Rachal contrived on/off thing. That would be ridiculous. Jim and Pam have one of the most realistic friendships/courtships/relatio nships ever depicted on TV, but even the most mundan, seeminly perfect couples have problems. And it's always the little problems thst seem like huge ones when your in one of those relationships. Yeah, don't have them cheat on each other or have dramatic arguments, but having them wonder and doubt if their seemingly perfect union is right is realistic the the exact type of conflict for the show. Last weeks ending, with Pam's conversation with her male friend, was tough because it made us and Jim wonder if their relationship was flawed. Jim used to be the one that encouraged Pams art, while Roy stood in the way. But is Jim now the one holding her back? Pam's male friend seems just as nice and funny and average and as concerned for Pam as Jim. Is Jim now Roy, and are we now rooting for "Roy" and against "Jim"? The show is trying to defy our expectations, which is the right type of coflict and drama. Just "letting them be happy" would be the most unrealistic and unsstisfying thing they could do.
My theory based on absolutely nothing
by Ben Addiction
Nov 13th, 2008
12:25:04 PM
I suspect Holly is some sort of transitional character to this mystery spin-off in the works. She's established, becomes a likable character, then boom- she's shipped off to another branch. Is this branch the setting for the new show?
How come no one is talking about...
by PirateEmery
Nov 13th, 2008
12:29:51 PM
...Dwight/JFK? By far the funniest written (most out there) thing I've ever seen come out of a show meant for family viewing (ie, NOT Sunny).
Sorry
by DocBosch
Nov 13th, 2008
12:31:00 PM
Longest apart double post ever. That's what I get for posting on an iPhone in an area with bad reception.
WHY ISN'T THIS SHOW WEEKLY ANYMORE!!!???!!
by silentbobafett2
Nov 13th, 2008
12:38:46 PM
I love this show but why do the networks find it hard to string an bunch of episodes together. I fucking hate tv companies... but damn they can put out good shit like this! Frigne is the same ! Cock sucking networks!
I appluad this decision! Novack is too ugly for TV!
by Penetron
Nov 13th, 2008
01:01:38 PM
I mean his eyes are practically on the side of his head. I have to turn away when he's on screen he's so ugly. He looks like Sid from the Ice Age movies.
MORE CREED!
by Blackguard
Nov 13th, 2008
01:29:46 PM
I almost burst a blood vessel when he showed up as the Heath Ledger joker on Halloween! It didn't hurt that Kevin and Dwight did it too! Also when Creed pulled a "Sawyer" and took the name from some other dude. Great stuff. There are so many uncomfortable situations. I LOVE it!
good riddance
by luis1210
Nov 13th, 2008
02:08:52 PM
I've always hated this character, he had his funny moments but doesn't everybody? i could care less about his fate, it's the only character i don't care about and just plain hate. At first i didn't like him and then when they went to that class on business school, i just started hating him. At least we got to see him fall hard, so goodbye, you shan't be missed.
Ike, do your impression of Caruso, er, Novak's career!
by gruntybear
Nov 13th, 2008
02:10:19 PM
You remember. Back when "South Park" was still funny and vital. 'Cuz exiting "The Office" for Novak will produce the very same career arc that David Caruso slid out on. And no, "C.S.I." doesn't count. Nobody under the age of 75 watches CBS.
In defense of BJ Novak....
by ScottinDC
Nov 13th, 2008
02:52:11 PM
While it seems like the over-whelming majority of folks hate his character, if he does indeed do a complete departure from The Office, it will be a massive loss. Most of the episodes people credit as being the funniest were ones he wrote and produced. So, while we may hate "Ryan", we should still respect and appreciate "BJ".
Ryan needs to work for a rival company.
by Flim Springfield
Nov 13th, 2008
05:19:52 PM
i respect and appreciate BJs...
by DocBosch
Nov 13th, 2008
05:32:43 PM
huh?
Have Angela take over his spot in the opening credits.
by Prior Walter
Nov 13th, 2008
06:20:13 PM
11/20/08
by deadshot07
Nov 13th, 2008
06:45:38 PM
"The Nightman Cometh"
My Winnipeg!
by buffywrestling
Nov 13th, 2008
07:16:20 PM
I'm gearing up for this episode. All day long they have been playing clips from the show on the radio/TV. We suck!! Yay!!
Creepy Creed touching..
by buffywrestling
Nov 13th, 2008
08:12:20 PM
eeek!
THAT WAS REAL???
by Hercules
Nov 13th, 2008
08:25:37 PM
I'm Andy Bernard.
I loved Ryan's buyer's remorse.
by Flim Springfield
Nov 13th, 2008
08:31:31 PM
Oh Micheal
by buffywrestling
Nov 13th, 2008
08:36:48 PM
What did you do? First the walk of shame, then you curse yourself about being able to yell at your boss. You are so demoted. And it ties in with next weeks summary too.

I'm glad Pam is back; I was a bit cringed when she said she had to stay in school another 12 weeks. Stupid fake tension. And wasn't Oscar was the cutest drunk ever? And just for the record,I am Winnipeg's answer to a geisha.

Night Court Reunion on 30 Rock!
by VictorNewman
Nov 13th, 2008
08:43:48 PM
YES!
I think Markie Post's boobs have got even bigger.
by Flim Springfield
Nov 13th, 2008
08:45:02 PM
I think I'm Oscar!
by buffywrestling
Nov 13th, 2008
08:45:37 PM
And that Markie Post's boobs have gotten bigger.
by buffywrestling
Nov 13th, 2008
08:46:43 PM
Markie Post still looks hot
by VictorNewman
Nov 13th, 2008
08:49:26 PM
that high school crush is back!
Hmmm
by dancinggopher01
Nov 13th, 2008
09:07:10 PM
Episode was good but did anyone catch stupid Smallville and the actual Doomsday character on the preview for next weeks? Like real Doomsday and not some faggot 20 something dude.
Eatin' my words about Andy
by WerePlatypus
Nov 13th, 2008
09:46:37 PM
Actually the funniest part of tonight's episode. . . old Andy returns.
who gives a SHIT about the office?!?
by mr_macphisto
Nov 13th, 2008
10:42:03 PM
there was a fucking NIGHT COURT REUNION on 30 Rock!
gruntybear
by PirateEmery
Nov 14th, 2008
01:41:51 AM
You're wrong...

Nobody under the age of 75........ watches CBS. YEEEEEEEAAAAH! [cut to Won't Get Fooled Again]

Night Court reunion - where were Bull & Roz?
by Big Jim
Nov 14th, 2008
12:19:42 PM
According to IMDB, Charles Robinson appeared in 193 episodes, which would be about how many episodes they would have done over 9 seasons. However, Harry Anderson is listed at 118 episodes. That's 75 fewer episodes. And John Larroquette is listed at 117 episodes. Does my memory fail me and there were 3 or so seasons of a Dukes of Hazard type recast in the middle of the series? Or is IMDB just plain wrong?
Larroquette's
by skimn
Nov 14th, 2008
02:27:33 PM
doing guest shots on House and Boston Legal, must feel its beneath him to do Night Court references.

And Markie Post! Lets not forget she was Diaz' mom in Something About Mary. Gotta be pushing GILF age.

More on Jim & Pam...
by BizarroJerry
Nov 14th, 2008
02:43:00 PM
People aren't saying they want them to have no problems whatsoever. We just don't want it to stoop to the constant break up, getting back together, break up, get back together forever on the last episode crap. They can have problems, but don't jerk us around. I appreciate that they have yet to take them in a cliched TV sitcom romance direction. "We're not that couple."
Jack's Real Night Court
by drewlicious
Nov 14th, 2008
04:07:31 PM
The Hookers didn't crack jokes and he was surrounded by terrified looking college students. Funny. Markie Post is 58 by the way. Not bad. Harry Anderson on the other hand...not so much. And he's two years younger.
Pam and Jim have been together for 1.5 seasons
by Larry Sellers
Nov 14th, 2008
05:43:35 PM
Bumps in a relationship are pretty normal and all of these conflicts (and tension teasers like the one last night) are all reasonable and brought to simple conclusions usually within the same episode. I guess people expect more contrived happiness from their sitcom relationships. They're not the problem this season...especially since Pam's only been in roughly half of the episodes. The problem is the rollercoaster nature of the stories. Last night was heavier on drama, week before was pretty hilarious, week before that Holly left the show, etc. They're striking a much better balance than last season, but it still jerks you around because you don't really know whether to expect a funnier or more depressing story next time around. I thought bringing back Kelly/Ryan was weak as hell, but it could be setting up for B.J.'s forthcoming departure. I could only ever see Kelly as the main reason for Ryan running away forever. Funniest line thus far this season: "I told the temp agency just give me Ryan Howard, give him to me. I want him. I need him." Dammit the delivery cracked me up.
Ryan Howard for MVP
by Ant$
Nov 14th, 2008
08:31:13 PM
he really should win NL MVP this year...
Will NBC cancel this next?
by Drath
Nov 14th, 2008
08:55:07 PM
You know, I have no faith in network TV this year. They'll cancel everything I watch and leave nothing but reality tv and CSI clones on. Oh, and Ghost Whisperer. Nothing I watch is surviving. This and 30 Rock seem doomed to me right now!
Go, Ryan, Go!!! (and don't come back)
by chromedome
Nov 15th, 2008
01:28:47 PM
I agree with Prior
by ThrowMeTheIdol
Nov 15th, 2008
02:22:14 PM
Put Angela in the credits.
Did you mistype "bastards" or is it really spelled basterds?
by Cotton McKnight
Nov 15th, 2008
08:17:12 PM
Just wondering.
Ryan Howard does much better...
by Juemad
Nov 16th, 2008
07:58:16 PM
PLAYING FIRST BASE FOR THE 2008 WORLD CHAMPION PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES!!!!!!
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