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UPDATE!! More Details For John Boorman's WIZARD OF OZ Film!! SEE The Emerald City, The Tin Man & More!!

Looks awesome by Ghostwood	Nov 12th, 2008 01:30:11 PM
If Boorman does as well with this as he did with Excalibur (one of my favorite flicks of all time), then he has my opening day cash
So why is this a better idea than... by Pdorwick	Nov 12th, 2008 01:32:34 PM
...any other stupid remake we've been forced to watch over the past 10 years. What's next, a CGI version of Casablanca?
Now this might work by crankyoldguy	Nov 12th, 2008 01:34:40 PM
from the looks of it. The 1939 Oz is such an enduring piece of American cinema that's touched the world over the decades (one of my best friend's mother remembers seeing it in France as a child), it's yeah, kind of sacred. I'm sure some ass here will attempt to bash it, but it's un-bashable. Still, this animated take may turn out to be a charming work, especially since they're not trying to make it a musical at all, which is smart.
Ok, i am interested... by Toby Wan	Nov 12th, 2008 01:34:47 PM
Make the damn thing already..I'll go watch it. Just stop showing me shit about it.
Pdorwick by Merrick	Nov 12th, 2008 01:36:46 PM
This isn't a "remake". The original film was markedly different than Baum's literary source material. I *LOVE* the 1939 musical, but...if anything...this looks to be the first true adaptation of the book.
I need to see more by Xian042	Nov 12th, 2008 01:36:57 PM
I'll pass judgement then
Based on these character designs so far, by Shut the Fuck up Donny	Nov 12th, 2008 01:38:36 PM
I think I would like to see this done in traditional cel animation. However, I would also love to see them try to emulate cel style with CGI. Either way, I think this preliminary work is beautiful in a very traditional (Disney, early Bluth) sense and I hope Boorman maintains that style.
Looks like a really cool concept by Mr Slippy Fist	Nov 12th, 2008 01:39:58 PM
Kind of Tim Burtonesque.
Merrick, does that mean.. by crankyoldguy	Nov 12th, 2008 01:42:41 PM
they'll wear green glasses in the emerald city? True, Baum's original book was a metaphor for the industrial revolution, etc. I also agree there's a Tim Burton-ish feel at work in these first designs/art we're seeing.
Hear hear, Merrick, by Shut the Fuck up Donny	Nov 12th, 2008 01:43:30 PM
the musical was a totally different animal, and could continue to be enjoyed and studied on its own merits--regardless of the source material. If Boorman pulls this off, at worst we would have a wonderful companion piece to the original '39 musical.
It is strange.. by eggart	Nov 12th, 2008 01:44:53 PM
..how successful live-action directors have recently been approaching CGI films as if they were live-action projects. The lines blur. I'm not sure that's entirely good.
I'd love to see a sister film for this one... by 433	Nov 12th, 2008 01:48:14 PM
...a non-musical "Wicked". My girlfriend just took me to the musical last week, and while the story was very interesting, the songs were mostly iffy.
not the musical by oisin5199	Nov 12th, 2008 01:48:46 PM
In fact, the freaky Return to OZ, with Fairuza Balk as a child, had more in common with the source material than the '39 musical. After seeing the recent TerminatorSCC episode with Sarah reading passages from the book reminded me of how dark and compelling the original story actually is, and that there are so many ways to relate to the book beyond the whole 'brain, heart, courage, no place like home' thing. I wish for an accurate adaptation, but I wish this cg stuff was more dynamic and scary. CG environments just look like they're made in a computer, not someone's sick brain, like they should. Motion capture is closer (Beowulf not bad but not great either, in terms of drawings). I wish they took a Hellboy II approach to the story with models and practical stuff, to make it interesting and creepy.
First I have heard of it... by CaptainTripsUK	Nov 12th, 2008 01:50:18 PM
..and I love the concept art, I take it this is a CGI movie? They have got to make it a musical. So glad Tim Burton didnt get his grubby little mitts on it. If he has we all know it would of been Helena Bonham Carter as the Wicked Witch and Depp as Scarecrow... looking forward to this.
433 by oisin5199	Nov 12th, 2008 01:50:18 PM
I totally agree about Wicked. I loved the story, but hated the music. And those guys wrote the music for my favorite musical, Pippin. I guess I have to read that book the musical is based on.
Thumbs down by macheesmo3	Nov 12th, 2008 01:53:13 PM
It looks like my little pony The Wizard of Oz edition.... Why does this need to be made?
The Tin Woodsman was a Munchkin? by superfleish76	Nov 12th, 2008 01:54:22 PM
Admittedly, it's been over 20 years since I read any of the books, but I really don't remember that ever being the case. Even in the illustrations he was drawn as being tall with skinny legs and arms. While that wouldn't preclude my enjoyment of the project, I don't think that is accurate. Was it?
Neato by Wolfman Nards	Nov 12th, 2008 01:56:59 PM
I'm into it
crankyoldguy by m2298	Nov 12th, 2008 01:57:02 PM
Oz was not about the industrial revolution! Also there have actually been some fairly faithful animated post-MGM versions of the book. Most aren't that great, but there have been some nice looking ones made in the USSR/Russia.
Some are good, Some are Uninspired by jobytack	Nov 12th, 2008 02:01:29 PM
I'm a bit conflicted. Dorothy, Scarecrow, Munchkinland... they all look a little too mundane. Very basic and safe. The Emerald City looks pretty good, if a bit Narnia-ish. Now, Tinman and the Witch's castle look downright cool. Hopefully more of the film will turn out that way.
The Tin Angel by Squashua	Nov 12th, 2008 02:02:16 PM
I really like that look with the axe-as-wings allusion.
Tin Man looks generic by jimmy_009	Nov 12th, 2008 02:09:28 PM
That's why it seems familiar. It looks like every 'cute' robot you've ever seen. Uninspired.
Looks like... by CoursinLarry	Nov 12th, 2008 02:09:34 PM
...you mistakenly put a Hobbiton picture up in place of the Munchkinland picture. Go ahead and fix that.
Also why does the Tin MAN.... by jimmy_009	Nov 12th, 2008 02:10:29 PM
have the proportions of a Tin BOY?
Kind of looks like Boorman is channeling Miyazaki, by ExcaliburFfolkes	Nov 12th, 2008 02:13:20 PM
which wouldn't be a bad thing at all.
Wicked book not like the Musical by chrth	Nov 12th, 2008 02:13:58 PM
Vastly different. Vastly, vastly different. The names are the same, but everything else is just freakin' ... well, frankly, I thought the book sucked. Others really liked it, but that tends to be people who read the book before being exposed to the musical.
One more thing. by CoursinLarry	Nov 12th, 2008 02:14:00 PM
This is, I guess, nitpicky. But, hasn't much been made of the fact that Dorothy is blond in the book, but none of her on-screen incarnations have been? So, why not go ahead and right all these past wrongs?
Allen Parsons is rolling over in his grave by SkylineGTR	Nov 12th, 2008 02:17:43 PM
As long as I can sync it up with my Dark Side of the Moon album it'll all be good.
Industrial Revolution? by DennisMM	Nov 12th, 2008 02:18:05 PM
Probably not. But many think Baum did slip in some joking references to the day's politics. The magic of the silver (not ruby) shoes supposedly represent the power of the silver standard, ie, backing the currency of the United States with silver. The yellow brick road shows that gold is essentially worthless, fit only to be walked upon. The green glasses that "prevent the magnificence of the Emerald City from blinding the quartet" may well represent the false wealth of greenbacks, or paper money - the magnificent green turning out to be, again, a false sort of wealth. Who knows? It's fun to read these things into the story if one doesn't take them too seriously.
yes, the Tin Woodman was a Munchkin by m2298	Nov 12th, 2008 02:18:21 PM
Denslow's original illustrations portrayed most of the Oz inhabitants (not only Munchkins) as child sized. In later books, both Baum and illustrator John R. Neill tended to forget about the way Baum first described them in the first book.
read this: by m2298	Nov 12th, 2008 02:22:24 PM
From http://www.thewizardofoz.info/ faq02.html#16: 2.16. Is it true that The Wizard of Oz was written as a political tract? Nope. Baum was not very active in politics, and none of his other stories could be considered political works. The connection between The Wizard of Oz and the contemporary political landscape was not even raised until 1963, when a summer school teacher named Henry Littlefield, while trying to teach the 1896 Presidential election and the turn-of-the-century Populist movement to bored history students, stumbled upon the idea of using the characters and events of The Wizard of Oz as metaphors to teach the concepts. He and his students made a number of connections — the Scarecrow represented the farmers, the Tin Woodman the factory workers, the Wizard was President Grover Cleveland or Republican presidential candidate William McKinley, the Cowardly Lion was Democratic presidential candidate William Jennings Bryan, the silver shoes were the silver standard, the yellow brick road the gold standard, and so on — and Littlefield eventually wrote an article, "The Wizard of Oz: A Parable on Populism," which was published in the magazine American Quarterly in 1964. You can read this article on the WWW at http://www.amphigory.com/oz.ht m. Littlefield's article seems not to have been taken to heart and was generally forgotten, until Gore Vidal, writing about Oz in The New York Review of Books in 1977, mentioned the article, and the idea took off. Unfortunately, a number of other articles later came out that misunderstood or reinterpreted what Littlefield had said or meant, and other writers took the ideas even further, many not even aware of Littlefield's original essay. Some of these interpretations even contradict each other, and others invented political leanings for Baum (his early newspaper columns show a stronger leaning towards the Republicans than the Populists). Some of these interpretations have been embraced by college professors and other academics as the true meaning behind The Wizard of Oz. Littlefield took pains to say, then and later, that he does not believe Baum had a political agenda in writing The Wizard of Oz, and that his observations were allegorical. The Baum family and many Oz and Baum scholars have also proclaimed that it was not Baum's intention to write a deliberate satire. Still, this has not stopped many people from taking a quaint set of metaphors and converting them into "fact." Like almost any great literary work, one can interpret The Wizard of Oz in any number of ways, if one tries hard enough. Other interpretations of the book that have been published include spiritual (Baum did have an interest in Theosophy, but he was not an overtly religious man), mythic, psychological (Freudian, Jungian, and others), feminist, capitalist, and socialist/Communist. However, Baum merely wanted to tell a good story, and not to add any hidden meaning. He wrote in his introduction to The Wonderful Wizard of Oz: "Modern education includes morality; therefore the modern child seeks only entertainment [emphasis mine] in its wonder-tales and gladly dispenses with all disagreeable incident. Having this thought in mind, the story of The Wonderful Wizard of Oz was written solely to please the children of today [emphasis mine]." Here's another issue to consider: If The Wonderful Wizard of Oz was written as a political work, then it makes sense that Baum would have included politics in some of his other stories. Yet nobody has made this sort of connection with any of his other books. True, Baum does make some sly comments about contemporary events in some of his books (the spoof of the Women's Suffrage movement in The Land of Oz being the most striking example), but nothing to the extent that some have made out to be in The Wizard of Oz.
Why not a black Dorothy for a change? by caltsoudas	Nov 12th, 2008 02:31:29 PM
Aside from The Wiz, they always portray her as white. And being a part of the "No black Cap or Wonder Woman" camp myself, this is at least a beloved character that doesn't HAVE to be white all the time. There were--and are--black people living in the Kansas farmlands. And the race of Dorothy or her aunt and uncle are never described in the book.
Does the TIN MAN look like MARVIN The Paranoid Android? Cute by YotzVonFrelnik	Nov 12th, 2008 02:31:41 PM
Seriously, he kind've reminds me of a cross between the movie Marvin and Marvin The Martian.
Black Dorothy. by CoursinLarry	Nov 12th, 2008 02:37:59 PM
Check out the Muppet Wizard of Oz. Ashanti played Dorothy in that.
Wow by TheHumanBeingAndFish	Nov 12th, 2008 02:40:02 PM
While I agree that the Tin Man looks a bit too cute, I think these designs are great.
Yeah but... by Kid Z	Nov 12th, 2008 02:40:40 PM
...can you synch the movie up with Pink Floyds Dark Side of the Moon and have the scenes match the music perfectly?
so many drugs. SO many drugs. by s0nicdeathmonkey	Nov 12th, 2008 02:45:27 PM
that is all.
No one mourns the wicked... by PirateEmery	Nov 12th, 2008 02:55:14 PM

Oh yeah. Ashanti. by caltsoudas	Nov 12th, 2008 02:57:43 PM
But the thing is, Ashanti played it to ghetto, and that movie wasn't classy. Neither was the Wiz. I lked the Wiz, but it was very kitsch blaxploitation. It would just be nice to see a black girl in something that has class and creative merit. But, you know, WITHOUT the voodoo magicians, toothless swamp animals, and uninspired Randy Newman soundtrack.
Dorothy Will Be Hot by Crow3711	Nov 12th, 2008 02:58:08 PM
When she CGI grows up.
Is that the Shire? by TheWaqman	Nov 12th, 2008 03:03:40 PM

Too cutesy by Dominic-Vobiscum	Nov 12th, 2008 03:06:01 PM
Looks like chibi-Oz.
Muppet Wizard of Oz by Dominic-Vobiscum	Nov 12th, 2008 03:09:02 PM
Is not only a crappy version of Wizard of Oz it's the worst Muppet related project. David Allen Grier had that line about Kermit being the most famous puppet in the world? The Muppets are not puppets, dammit. They are dogs and frogs and chickens and bears and such.
caltsoudas by m2298	Nov 12th, 2008 03:10:03 PM
I don't recall much "ghetto" in the original theatrical version of THE WIZ (which was pretty close to the book, much more so than the mediocre film).
Where you goin' Emerald City boy?! by Darthkrusty	Nov 12th, 2008 03:14:22 PM
I hope they have the scene where the Scarecrow plays Duelling Banjos with a Flying Monkey.
I'm talking about the film by caltsoudas	Nov 12th, 2008 03:17:04 PM

That's Better! by FILMFUNK	Nov 12th, 2008 03:26:41 PM
much more compelling and other worldly than the last shots! Just watched W. and I can't get it out of my head!!! I actually feel sorry for that dumb son of a b*tch Bush!?
Not digging the Tin Man by scrivener	Nov 12th, 2008 03:29:42 PM
For the most part, I think the art looks fantastic... however, I am NOT digging the Tin Man, who has some kind of a 5-year-old-Anime-robot thing going on. I'd also make the witches castle just a little bit less wild. Other than those two nits (seriously, make another pass at the Tin Man. He's the Tin MAN not the Tin TODDLER), it looks really awesome.
awwww Dorothy is so cute by Bouncy X	Nov 12th, 2008 03:31:24 PM
she looks a little like an older version of Boo from Monsters Inc. though the way she's drawn, she looks 10ish, was that her age in the book?
TIN TODDLER...NOT TIN MAN LAME by Missing Dink	Nov 12th, 2008 03:32:43 PM

i have an idea by Bouncy X	Nov 12th, 2008 03:45:25 PM
they can make this one for the masses and kiddies, then make an animated story out of those "twisted fairy tales" wizard of oz characters mcfarlane made.
Why is Wizzard of Oz getting big right now? by Series7	Nov 12th, 2008 03:46:11 PM
New movie, new comic book, some new toys a year or two back.
age by m2298	Nov 12th, 2008 03:49:09 PM
Dorothy's age isn't given in the book, but she is definitely younger than Judy Garland was.
This is a CGI movie that I actually want to see by lord_zedd	Nov 12th, 2008 03:59:11 PM
I hope they'll make the whole series.
Merrick.. The Tin Man reminds me of... by Marillion	Nov 12th, 2008 04:08:31 PM
Marvin the robot from the Hitchhiker's Guide movie from a few years ago. At least the body proportions, not the detail...
Wicked and this new project... by DreadPirateRoberts	Nov 12th, 2008 04:09:11 PM
First, on the original topic, I love the new designs. Agreed, the Tin Man is a bit cute, almost rag dollish. But we have not seen him move and it is hard to tell yet without that. As to the above posters talking about Wicked, it is true the Book and the Musical have little if anything in common. It is also true that if you liked one first, you will most likely dislike the other. I enjoyed both, but he book is FAR better in my opinion and VERY dark. To be honest, it closely matches tone the the original novel it is made to parallel, but darker considering it's protagonist. THAT would make a great film or mini-series paired up with it's sequel, Son of a Witch.
No flying monkey concepts by KongMonkey	Nov 12th, 2008 04:15:35 PM
as long as they look nasty and barbaric and non-childlike as these other characters are, I'm cool with it. Tin man looks like something from the Hello Kitty universe.
Tinman looks like... by ThePorkChopExpress	Nov 12th, 2008 04:29:41 PM
Marvin the Martian a little. Cool design!
it's very pretty by blonde redhead	Nov 12th, 2008 04:32:47 PM
i like the way the characters look. a lot.
they should have got... by emeraldboy	Nov 12th, 2008 04:45:55 PM
Gilliam.
I hope... by two fathoms deep	Nov 12th, 2008 04:47:14 PM
it actually does have the dark tones. I think I'm already planning on seeing this, and I don't want to be walking into a kiddie flick. And stop referring to the Tin Man as a toddler. They just said he's a munchkin. It's not that hard.
If you wnat to know what connery was like to work with.. by emeraldboy	Nov 12th, 2008 04:47:20 PM
read Boormans autobiography. Tales of suburban boy.
Most of the art looks fantastic.. by Ironthorman	Nov 12th, 2008 04:53:45 PM
I think Dorothy looks near perfect despite a couple small details. I like the tinman design except for the small stature and Alice Cooper eye star. Munchkinland reminds me of the Briar Rabbit water ride in Magic Kingdom. Lion and Scarecrow are pretty lackluster. Not bad, but not good. Emerald City and the castle though are just beautiful. Hard to imagine them not looking badass in an animated capacity.
For those clamoring for original stories all the time: by JumpinJehosaphat	Nov 12th, 2008 04:55:29 PM
Forget it. There are basic story plots that were worn out by the time the Greeks got them. So, with that in mind, think of some movie or book that really made you go, "whoa! That's original!" Odds are, it's only original TO YOU and others not familiar with the archetype upon which it's based. Someone else has heard it all before in some other permutation. Does that make it bad? Hell, no! People keep coming back for more, including Yours Truly.
Will Dorothy's slippers be silver? by MurderMostFowl	Nov 12th, 2008 04:58:49 PM
I've never seen these other adaptations. ( other than the original movie of course )
my "castle" grows when i'm "angry" too by ChildOfMen	Nov 12th, 2008 05:04:23 PM
that is all
Anyone remember the animated tv series of Wizard Of Oz? by Amy Chasing	Nov 12th, 2008 05:12:20 PM
It was on for like 10mins every morning for what seemed like years. I think they did all the books (ie. Dorothy meets the good witch of the South to get home the first time, and then comes back to fight the Goblin King who is try to tunnel his way to the Emerald City. I think. Was a long time ago I watched this.)
Amy Chasing by danthemagnum	Nov 12th, 2008 05:20:34 PM
I have the DVD's with the series made into movies. Loved it when I was younger. The Ozma/Pip storyline was always my favorite.
LOOKS GREAT- XCEPT FOR TIN MAN. by alice 13	Nov 12th, 2008 05:43:34 PM
too roboty. needs more tin can-ness.
Just discovered some horrid nazi like views of Baum by theycallmemrglass	Nov 12th, 2008 06:08:05 PM
This article had me pulling off and dusting my old Oz books just to jog my memory of what wonders in these books captivated me as a child. Each of my book had an introduction from Baum who came across like nice old grandpa ready to tell me a story. Then I thought of looking him up on Wikipedia. To my shock, he wrote some pretty disturbing editorials on Native Americans almost of a Hitler nature (almost, but still disturbing) - here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/6y65zf ... Wizard of Oz movie will always be my in my top 5 films of all time but I might just read one of those books again to see if Baum wrote any racial undertones. Oh, and i still look forward to Boorman's interpretation though he'll never top Excalibur.
This looks great...BUT by B.R.ther's cock	Nov 12th, 2008 06:34:15 PM
What ever happened to the HBO cartoon series, that was never released, those were excellent.
I'm off to see the Wizard.. by deanbarry	Nov 12th, 2008 06:39:05 PM
...The Wonderful Wizard of Oz.
I ment On DVD by B.R.ther's cock	Nov 12th, 2008 06:39:19 PM

The Tin Midget by yomomma	Nov 12th, 2008 06:42:36 PM
I'd have gone more Gundam then Astroboy, but then I likee 'splosions.
I hear that when it's down you will be able to synch it.... by Roketopunch	Nov 12th, 2008 06:44:10 PM
with Slayer's Album Reign in Blood. I can't wait.
I hear that when it's down you will be able to synch it.... by Roketopunch	Nov 12th, 2008 06:44:18 PM
with Slayer's Album Reign in Blood. I can't wait.
Even if it were a remake by yomomma	Nov 12th, 2008 06:53:04 PM
I think 70 years is sufficient time to consider a relaunch.
The background art is interesting by TimBenzedrine	Nov 12th, 2008 07:06:00 PM
but I wish they had kept the character designs closer to the book illustrations. They worked for over a hundred years, why fuck with them?
I HATE IT! I HATE IT! I HATE IT! by Snake Foreskin	Nov 12th, 2008 07:09:09 PM
Might as well make a movie out of Monopoly... oh, wait...
yes, my shorthand comment was off, but... by crankyoldguy	Nov 12th, 2008 07:32:38 PM
despite the extensive post above, I'd always read about Oz as a story full of parables to a modernizing, changing U.S., etc. Perhaps Baum wasn't political, but I still think he was a bit sly.
Hmmm, okay, this is looking interesting by Drath	Nov 12th, 2008 07:39:49 PM
Very different from the original movie, and it's animated so it stands a chance of not being "seriously compared" (ie trashed) to the original live action movie. Animation is a great medium and I'm looking forward to this now.
Looks good to me... by Zardoz	Nov 12th, 2008 07:39:50 PM
and pay no attention to the man behind the cyrtain!
um, ALAN parsons by LegoKenobi	Nov 12th, 2008 07:41:40 PM
...isn't dead. just thought i'd point that out. and i agree with those that say the tin man is very reminiscent of marvin from hitchhiker's guide.
looks like kingdom hearts. i'm in. by Warcraft	Nov 12th, 2008 07:42:31 PM
dorothy looks like sora. love the design.
A 70 Year Old Film Has Better Art Direction by nexxus7	Nov 12th, 2008 07:47:42 PM
You'd think with all the technology, money and probably a huge crew, they'd come up with something better. The original is a masterpiece of art direction. This looks like a typical Saturday morning cartoon release, not a major motion picture release. This is not a step forward but a step back. I would have liked to have seen what Pixar or Tim Burton would have done with this.
tinman looks awesome btw. by Warcraft	Nov 12th, 2008 07:47:52 PM
indeed he does.
Time is irrelevent concerning art. by Warcraft	Nov 12th, 2008 07:54:47 PM
Art is extremely subjective, and isn't something that can be made better with technology, money, or a huge crew. The quality of Art Direction is purely based upon talent, taste, and opinion. Makes no difference that the musical was made 70 years ago, or 200 years ago.
fantastic by BBSloth	Nov 12th, 2008 08:06:00 PM
the lion really is a lion!
The "fact" that Tinman was a by Bass Ackwards	Nov 12th, 2008 09:26:12 PM

The "fact" that Tinman was a munchkin? by Bass Ackwards	Nov 12th, 2008 09:32:02 PM
Um...in which book did we get this "fact"? Tinman is a tinMAN, the munchkin angle is just BS to make him a motenpopukar toy. And the books aren't "dark.". They're a wildly imagined, and as you get into them the stakes are definitely raised. But as far as tone, character, story, even design, the 1939 movie is largely similar to the book. Which makes the first movie a hard sell.
I think it looks great by mefrog	Nov 12th, 2008 09:40:33 PM
I mean, these are only a few concept pieces but it looks crammed with imagination. If things keep up like this, I am going to pay very, very close attention to this movie. I love the '39 version and I love the book... I'll be watching out for this.
Amy Chasing by watch_the_world_burn	Nov 12th, 2008 09:59:04 PM
I remember that cartoon too - seemed like it was closer to the books than the film ever was. I think it was on ABC (the aussie one), there used to be a lot of good tv series on ABC back then. This new film looks good, I like the Kingdom Hearts/Eternal Sonata/FFIX type vibe.
If this is really the "Book Version"... by BurnHollywood	Nov 12th, 2008 10:05:20 PM
...The Wicked Witch will have only one eye and tote an umbrella instead of a broom. The green, two-eyed Witch was entirely an MGM creation.
it could work by goingsomewhere8	Nov 12th, 2008 10:25:06 PM
I am content movie wise on the whole wiz story with Return to Oz. It was a great compilation of the characters throughout the book series. But I have to admit the animation impresses me. Hopefully they can capture the bizarre non-sensical logic that oz creatures have in the books, that's what made them so fun.
The Tin-Man is kind of Wall-E adorable in those pics by Spifftacular Squirrel Girl	Nov 12th, 2008 10:41:33 PM
I'm always up for a good Oz adaption.
huh, who would have thought it'd look compelling by finky089	Nov 12th, 2008 10:43:58 PM
I almost 360'd from my opinion the last time Merrick posted about this project. The art is compelling.
Cool by Freakemovie	Nov 12th, 2008 11:39:33 PM
Underwhelmed by Munchkinland, a.k.a. The Shire, but the Witch's castle is really, really awesome.
Cool design for the witch's castle by D.Vader	Nov 12th, 2008 11:59:45 PM
I like that creepy hand motif. Munchkinland looks like a Hobbit town, and yet I'm cool with that. I can't get enough underground houses with trees for roofs.
Tin Man looks emo by Boo Cocky	Nov 13th, 2008 12:32:55 AM
He could slash his wrists with his axe. If only he could bleed...
Did the Wicked Musical ... by Mundungus	Nov 13th, 2008 01:54:27 AM
.. have any character executed by having a burning tire hung around him? And did it have a bestiality alluded to where a man f'd hard by a tiger? Was the witch of the east horrible deformed? These thing are in the book Wicked. The book had so much promise, however I can't recommend it because it seems that the author had way too much interest in his politics of Oz. If the story were trimmed of one third of its ramblings it would have been much better. The witch of the west, Elphiba?, is very decent throughout most of the book. She is figuratively screwed by the Wizard and fates until she is driven mad by the end. It is pretty sad. The book also suffered from the same syndrome that has affected Stephen King’s later writing. It weaves a hundred webs of mystery and reveals only the four or five secrets you’ve already figured out. Not only that, the author actually taunts the reader about the unanswered questions. Oh, how clever, just like life, get it? Is the musical like that?
Who cares when AVATAR is fucking our eyeballs in 2009? by Motoko Kusanagi	Nov 13th, 2008 02:35:33 AM
nobody
Dorothy and Munchkinland need redoing!! by BenBraddock	Nov 13th, 2008 02:38:25 AM
Come on, this Dorothy is a totally vanilla and dull generic "pretty tomboy" a la 1970s Disney... give her some real character! Same goes for Munchkinland, it looks totally uninspired. Nicely painted but unoriginal. The other designs look fine though, love the witches castle and the Emerald City.
Tin Cyborg by VoldemortWearsPrada	Nov 13th, 2008 05:11:03 AM
OK, let's sort this out once and for all: HE WAS NOT A MUNCHKIN. That's only in Wicked. Different story folks. In the original book he started out human but gradually became a tin man after chopping off all his limbs (including his head, you'd presume). Plus his ex girlfriend ran off with a guy who was made of his old limbs. Reckon they'll include that?
Marvel's got better looking concepts on the by Dingbatty	Nov 13th, 2008 05:52:04 AM
horizon: http://tinyurl.com/66nkj9
these just do not interest me. by THE_ONE_MAN_GANG	Nov 13th, 2008 12:23:49 PM
and i dont like the style. why are they redoing this again? if they are going ot remake it, whi not a big budget live action that stays true to the original?
intreguing by brandon11	Nov 13th, 2008 02:09:38 PM
this has some serious potential. i hope it tends to be more of a serious film than a hokey childrens movie... thats the oz i want to see. can i say i wish it was live action though?
Dorothy still looks too modern. by alienindisguise	Nov 13th, 2008 02:19:42 PM
I'm liking the tin man and the witches castle though. I for one am for a new or true take on this story so i don't have to watch the gay cowardly lion and iffeminate tin man in the original.
Dorothy looks too modern? by JumpinJehosaphat	Nov 13th, 2008 04:58:34 PM
Where the fuck do you live?
Munchkin man by Tokyo_Joe	Nov 14th, 2008 02:16:49 AM
Well, I just re-read the Tin Man chapter and it introduces him as a 'man' made of tin. Which seems to imply that he's a big man. But then he goes on to tell his tale of his love for a munchkin maiden (foiled after he chopped his limbs off apparently...) so perhaps he is a munchkin. But then again, would a munchkin refer to a munchkin maiden specifically as a 'munchkin' maiden would he not just call her a 'maiden'. Hmmm. Gonna have to read the whole thing again I suppose.
theycallmemrglass by m2298	Nov 14th, 2008 08:09:25 AM
Baum did indeed write two 'genocidical' editorials during the brief time he was an editor in South Dakota. while they cannot be excused one should read http://thewizardofoz.info/faq0 6.html#6 to see the context.
The Tin Woodman WAS a Munchkin: by m2298	Nov 14th, 2008 08:18:18 AM
Read http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rgs/wiz oz10.html -- Dorothy and the Scarecrow encounter him rusted and immobile. They oil him up and he tells them his story about being a local (MUNCHKIN COUNTRY) woodman who had his ax enchanted so that it dismembered him limb by limb. The missing limbs (and head) were eventually replaced by tin parts.

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