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New TERMINATOR SALVATION Footage removed!! But James Cameron Clarifies His Thoughts On The Film

Gotta love by Diagnostic	Nov 7th, 2008 01:45:36 PM
terminator
holy shit! by thecrimsoncurse	Nov 7th, 2008 01:45:49 PM

OH MY GOODNESS! by Ray Gamma	Nov 7th, 2008 01:47:56 PM
THIRD!
hmmm by TOASTERslayer	Nov 7th, 2008 01:48:50 PM
Not really blown away with anything I saw
Its also kinda by Diagnostic	Nov 7th, 2008 01:49:57 PM
nice to have terminator movies that are not Arnold vehicles.
The delivery of the classic line... by Wolfman57	Nov 7th, 2008 01:50:56 PM
...kinda sucks. Almost patronizing tone. I don't know, it just didn't sound as iconic as it did in the first two.
Looks nifty by Johnno	Nov 7th, 2008 01:51:23 PM
But I'm not at excited levels yet...
The more I see... by TylerDurden3395	Nov 7th, 2008 01:52:51 PM
The more I like. The clunky looking prototype Terminators were the best thing about part 3 so to me, that T-600 looks pretty badass. Good to see a little bit of Bale in there. No matter if the flick is good, bad or ugly, I'm still there.
He's quite the company man. by JumpinJehosaphat	Nov 7th, 2008 01:53:27 PM
He offers no judgments on anything other than upbeat, all-inclusive statements about how wonderful everything is. It makes me a bit nervous, actually. I feel like I'm getting a hard sell.
Terminator Motorbikes? by Nasty_Nick	Nov 7th, 2008 01:53:33 PM
While I'm really liking everything else I am seeing in this the Terminator Motorbikes seem a bit pointlesss. Reminds me of Transformers in a bad way.
We are spoiled by ltgalloway	Nov 7th, 2008 01:54:21 PM
I feel we are being handed some amazing looking films lately. Maybe my personal taste has become dulled, but seems like in recent years we've had a ton of badass flicks come our way. There's still crap being made, dont get me wrong, but the standard has gone from great to mind blowing. Cant wait for what the future holds.
I hate to say it.... by Ray Gamma	Nov 7th, 2008 01:54:31 PM
But this looks fucking brilliant.
It looked OK by Monkey Butler	Nov 7th, 2008 01:55:39 PM
Except for the line "we did all this research and testing...on the Internet". That doesn't fly for High School assignments, it shouldn't fly for a billion dollar franchise. It just makes it sound cheap and unprofessional. Which is exactly what they should be trying to prove that this movie (and McG) isn't.
Im sure they kept the good stuff hidden at this point by Wheel99	Nov 7th, 2008 01:56:01 PM
but I wasn't blown away.
also by Ray Gamma	Nov 7th, 2008 01:56:24 PM
I love the idea of the T600 being part of the 'set' of Terminators in this flick. It looks so primitive and yet so fucking huge and ridiculous, you would honestly poop yourself if one walked near you.
It actually may not suck... by blackcoffee	Nov 7th, 2008 01:56:43 PM
as much the straight to DVD look of the shitty 3rd film. I hate most of the second one but the first is one of my favourite films of all time. This looks a little too 'Bay' to me though.
Listen to the jaded TalkBackers by Ray Gamma	Nov 7th, 2008 01:59:23 PM
everyone trying as usual to say at best a grudging "yeah it looks okay" or "meh". How the fuck can you say a movie that looks like this is "meh"? If a movie that looks like this still makes you go "meh", then i suggest nothing short of downing a pint of LSD and then injecting yourself with angel dust and sticking your cock into an electricity substation is ever going to please you.
Production Design.. by Gigol-o Joe	Nov 7th, 2008 01:59:37 PM
..and Concept Art are usually under appreciated in Film these days. In this case - looks like they are on the right track. Good design will shape the environment and feeling of the final film. Good Example - Ralph McQuarrie/John Barry/Norman Reynolds - Star Wars Original Trilogy. Bad Example - Star Wars Prequel Trilogy (I can't be bothered to look up who worked on those pieces of shit).
agreed about production design by Ray Gamma	Nov 7th, 2008 02:01:20 PM
they've nailed it i think
cant believe i didnt hate it by chokinonrhodes	Nov 7th, 2008 02:01:58 PM
but i didnt. the bikes kind of looked lame, but some of the other models they showed were pretty good.
Interesting... by Codename V	Nov 7th, 2008 02:03:18 PM
This looks like something I could get into. Loved 1 & 2. Thought 3 was merely ok. Cautious optimism here...
It doesn't look awesome by SPECTRE007	Nov 7th, 2008 02:05:53 PM
The flashes of the new Terminators didn't look original. Some looked like bugs, taken from the Matrix, and the bikes looked like a Transformers ripoff. But it's hard to talk about originality when we're discussing the 4th Terminator movie, which is being done by a bunch of guys who didn't make the original. I think I'm just over it.
TERMINATOR 4... by 420 Boylston St	Nov 7th, 2008 02:05:57 PM
Not for me! I can't endure another inferior product. From the bullshit teeny bopper terminator from the shitty tv series to this masturbation of Cameron's work inspired by material by Harlan Ellison. Bale may get asses in the seats but not for long after this thing is hauled in SUMMER 2009!
...and the "researching on the internet" by Codename V	Nov 7th, 2008 02:08:57 PM
True it doesn't work in high school. But that's because their research is usually wikipedia and that's it or they plagiarize the hell out someone's work. I gotta believe that this type of research on the internet may be a tad more legit than that since a lot of the terminator lore is electronic in nature... It's in the books and comics and stuff too but there are a lot of websites to use as a reference point from which to create background stories.
??? by Codename V	Nov 7th, 2008 02:11:11 PM
The hell you say.
Well now... by Seany-Wan	Nov 7th, 2008 02:12:54 PM
I'm starting to feel cautiously optimistic, although young Kyle Reese isn't sold on me yet...
We'll see -- by comedian_x	Nov 7th, 2008 02:14:29 PM
All I can say is we will see. I'll withhold judgment until the day it comes out.
WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE THE TFD-5000 by TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION	Nov 7th, 2008 02:18:35 PM
he is going to lay down some TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.
Honestly by BilboRing	Nov 7th, 2008 02:20:01 PM
This looks really good. I'm getting excitied but not cray yet. T3 was not that great. And the Alien franchise has been raped to death after Aliens. So I hope this is a revival of Terminator and not another step down.
Nasty_Nick by codymr	Nov 7th, 2008 02:28:10 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure what to think about the Terminator motorbikes either... Although, overall I'd have to say this looks pretty good. When I heard that McG was helming this I tuned out. But based on the footage and the production art I've seen so far, I have to say I am cautiously optimistic. I hope this will bring the franchise in line with Cameron-Terminator-Goodness.
Big F'ing Robots!!!!! by Triceratops on Fire	Nov 7th, 2008 02:28:14 PM
I am amazed no one commented on the harvester! Holy crap! That thing will scare the S#!$ out of me! For as rough as far off as we are from release, there was a surprising amount of polish in that video. I think McG cough might actually have done some good here...
"Come with me ..." by timmer33	Nov 7th, 2008 02:37:31 PM
Doesn't work here. Hope they take it out.
So the success of Transformers in no way influenced McG then by dastickboy	Nov 7th, 2008 02:44:01 PM
I'm really hopeful of this film, but motorcycle and car terminators? What's the point when Hunter Killers and Terminators are already established in the mythology? Reckon the toy sales of this will be topping off the gross. Would have preferred McG to tell a story worth telling rather than sealing a licensing deal.
It Took 'Em This Long... by Prof_Ender	Nov 7th, 2008 02:44:37 PM
...to finally set a TERMINATOR film in the post-apocalypse. If they did this was TERMINATOR 3, maybe the franchise would still have some dignity...and Schwarzenegger. It had better be good.
i don't know by LarryTate	Nov 7th, 2008 02:48:09 PM
kinda get a Mad Max but with a bad transformers feel. Esp when I saw that big ass terminator. Nice Draw-rings!
McGinty's gonna pull this off, BIGTIME by KillaKane	Nov 7th, 2008 02:49:51 PM
Like what I've seen and heard so far, got a good feeling about this one. With Nolan and Bale's influence along with some Iron Jim mentoring, this could shape up to be the future War T-fans have been praying for. McGinty's a decent enough shooter (forget the MTV induced Angel fodder and check out 'Marshall')there's no denying his sense of visual flair, reigned in and focussed in the right direction Salvation could deliver the goods.
Wow they're really trying to win the geeks over... by TroutMaskReplicant	Nov 7th, 2008 02:52:26 PM
Seems like they've taken some of the plotting from 28 Days Later (the sleeper awakes) and some of the action elements from Transformers. Still, with McG (it was all going so well till your man said "McG") at the helm who knows how it'll turn out?
I WILL See this movie! by Nesstar	Nov 7th, 2008 02:53:10 PM
We may be in a total depression when it comes out. I may have to collect soda bottles for the ticket money. But I will definitely see this movie.
holy shit this is awesome stuff by Spacesheik	Nov 7th, 2008 02:58:45 PM
im sold bigtime ---
Had me until some DJ Qualls lookalike... by I_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looki ng_for	Nov 7th, 2008 03:00:10 PM
completely ass-fucked the classic line. Strike that from the record and all else points to goodness. Will this be forever known as McG: Salvation?
Yeah this looks awesome... by Rindain	Nov 7th, 2008 03:00:49 PM
I love the post-apocalyptic David Lean scenery. The new Terminators rock and Christian Bale is in it...can't wait for the trailer on QoS.
I am not wowed. I wish I was. by The Gospel According to Bastardface	Nov 7th, 2008 03:01:06 PM
But to me, the Terminator story has been told and this franchise has now jumped into fantasy for me after Judgement Day occured in T3, so I have lost all interest since then.
I totally see a FPS coming out in tandem with the movie by Shut the Fuck up Donny	Nov 7th, 2008 03:02:08 PM
and I will probably buy it.
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Total crap by kwisatzhaderach	Nov 7th, 2008 03:05:57 PM
'Mototerminator'? Somewhere Jim Cameron is laughing.
RE: DerLanghaarige and ukharry1971 by matalo	Nov 7th, 2008 03:08:27 PM
There are only 10 types of people in this world. Those who know binary and those who don't.
kwisatzhaderach by matalo	Nov 7th, 2008 03:08:48 PM
I agree. The moto looks retarded.
I've been hesitant to see part 3 or TSCC by Shut the Fuck up Donny	Nov 7th, 2008 03:09:05 PM
as I keep hearing people say they're screwing with continuity. As such, I may just sit this out too, see what gels and what doesn't, and cherry pick what I feel best fills the series as a whole. I've pretty much done that with things like Robocop and Aliens, and been pretty happy about it.
McG,,, by Flummage	Nov 7th, 2008 03:09:43 PM
...made me my tea with milk first, in my favourite Worlds Most Bestest Mug mug and with just the lightest spritz of gingered honey. Just how I like it.
motorcycles by doubleARon	Nov 7th, 2008 03:14:38 PM
They are fast and maneuverable. Sounds like a great way to chase down a human and drag them away, which is what they are for. Why all the skepticism on something so simple? I was glad to see them thinking outside the box. No idea how this movie will come off, but that seems a silly thing to nitpick. Useful robots actually DON'T look like people most of the time. Anywho, I hope it's great, but I expect something that is fun but hollow. Sort of wish the children here didn't help to de-ball the ending with their irrational response to the spoiler stuff early on. Later, I guess, they will complain that it wasn't original enough. sigh
The Mototerminators... by I_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looki ng_for	Nov 7th, 2008 03:14:47 PM
looked suspiciously similar to the Batpod.
matalo by kwisatzhaderach	Nov 7th, 2008 03:15:29 PM
The 'mototerminators' encapsulate everything that is wrong with this project. Jim Cameron had a vision and put everything on the line to tell it. McG is just another hack promo director, all flashy visuals and wacky camera angles but a completely empty storyteller. I guess teenagers and kids will be happy with this but anyone who grew up with the original 2 Terminator films really needs to save their money for Avatar instead.
binary by doubleARon	Nov 7th, 2008 03:17:34 PM
There are actually 11 types of people. You forgot the other type that knows it well enough but is smart enough to ignore it most of the time.
Cool comments from Jim by kwisatzhaderach	Nov 7th, 2008 03:18:25 PM
Nice to hear his position clarified. Now give us an Avatar teaser Jimbo!
"Jim out" Nice line.... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Nov 7th, 2008 03:18:30 PM
What a fucking prick. I can't stand that fucker.
Cameron is fucking cool. by mode_7	Nov 7th, 2008 03:19:23 PM
We all know it.
LOOKS GREAT! by uberman	Nov 7th, 2008 03:19:57 PM
Those pre-cameron terminators look creepy. And the 'Harvestor' is inspired. Exceeded my expectations. Cant wait.
WE NEED AVATAR NEWS NOW, JIM!!! by unionJACKass.webs.com	Nov 7th, 2008 03:22:46 PM
I SAID NOW.
TERMINATOR SALVATION is gonna be great by unionJACKass.webs.com	Nov 7th, 2008 03:24:17 PM
Except it.
Yeah, "Dickblood out "is so much cooler. by I_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looki ng_for	Nov 7th, 2008 03:24:24 PM
Camerons a fucking legend. Droid out.
Avatar trailer please! by Rindain	Nov 7th, 2008 03:26:07 PM
Harry, you need to find out from Jim when this horribly painful wait for some kind of official Avatar teaser/image/poster etc will end.
Except what unionjackass? by I_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looki ng_for	Nov 7th, 2008 03:26:19 PM
Do we wait for the next post?
save? by unkempt_sock	Nov 7th, 2008 03:27:42 PM
did anyone happen to somehow save the embed? could i see it?
Ughhhh in jokes are so fucking shit by DannyOcean01	Nov 7th, 2008 03:28:11 PM
Why go to all that effort and 'research' if you're going to drop stupid in jokes into the movie. And that line is delivered so feebly. Are we really expected to believe that shrimp grows up to be Kyle Reese??? Loved the opening bit with him stumbling on a ravaged LA though.
Temors, Christine, and Rob Zombie by DRACULA_WANTS_THE_AMULET	Nov 7th, 2008 03:28:47 PM
No audio- PC is fucked up! but from what I can see. I'd say you got the bullshit Evil is tall crap ala Ronb Zombie. 8 foot tall Terminators!?!?!?! Dude didn;t they need dogs to fid them. Why * feet??? Aren't they trying to make them blend in. The Christine/Duel Terminators- Killer Motorcycles and Cars, and then the Tremor Terminators. The sand worms. All I see is lots of of Shit lifted from other Shit to make this Shit plus 11.
That's as good a "blessing" as you're going to get from Cameron by quadrupletree	Nov 7th, 2008 03:28:49 PM
"et's all keep our fingers crossed that it's not a steaming pile." Indeed.
damn pc is fucked trying again! by DRACULA_WANTS_THE_AMULET	Nov 7th, 2008 03:31:08 PM
No audio- PC is fucked up! but from what I can see. I'd say you got the bullshit Evil is tall crap ala Rob Zombie. 8 foot tall Terminators!?!?!?! Dude didn't they need dogs to find them. Why bulky 8 feet??? Aren't they trying to make them blend in. The Christine/Duel Terminators- Killer Motorcycles and Cars, and then the Tremor Terminators. The sand worms. All I see is lots of of Shit lifted from other Shit to make this Shit plus 11.
You know you're a geek when... by IAmMrMonkey!	Nov 7th, 2008 03:37:21 PM
...you visit a website regularly where people make fucking binary jokes. Sweet fucking lord.
Mototerminators... by Darth Macchio	Nov 7th, 2008 03:53:34 PM
...doubtful they'd be used for 'dragging people away' but more for standard reconnaissance work and 'hit and run' attacks. Basically, if some metal-spidery appendages pop off the bike and scoop people up...it will be stupid (the physics alone begins to kill my cinematic suspension of disbelief). If they zip through an resistance encampment taking people out with pin-point accuracy phase-plasma rifles at 110mph, it could be 100% pure ass kickery. I do like the 600's a lot ("The 600 series had rubber skin...we spotted them easily") and I really like the Harvesters. Basically all good designs but if they use them stupidly then it's for naught. Directors dumbass name or not...I hope this stomps proverbial ass.
featurette by benizdead	Nov 7th, 2008 03:53:55 PM
eerrrr.........the footage is still there.
Cripes by Mr. Lahey	Nov 7th, 2008 03:56:32 PM
After watching that, I am now looking forward to a McG movie. Even typing that sentence out doesn't alleviate the disorientation and mild headache. Hopefully he can pull it off, because that footage looks fucking sick.
I have to admit, but I don't want to; it looks cool. by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Nov 7th, 2008 04:02:45 PM
McG has me fooled for the time being. That's a great marketing pitch. So this is another Prequel Trilogy.
They didn't send Cameron the script? The IDIOTS!!! by performingmonkey	Nov 7th, 2008 04:09:01 PM
Were they too scared to send it him or something?? What is it with these people???? At one time he would have been willing to be involved with Alien 5 along with Ridley Scott but both of them were fucking shunned in favour of the shit AvP series. Does anyone in the business have a single brain cell left??
This looks a lot better than the first 3 films.... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Nov 7th, 2008 04:12:26 PM
...honestly, it looks far more interesting. And I dig the photography so far.
Don't feel bad, I'm Australian and I don't know who Sam by Amy Chasing	Nov 7th, 2008 04:13:20 PM
Worthington is. But then I've always felt there are no celebrities in Australia. I don't mean that in a bad way (for the most part) but that it's like the celebrities here are so down-to-earth you could have a beer with one and not recognise them. That and being an actor here seems to give you as much celebrity as being part of the crew - ie. bugger all. Nah, you gotta go overseas and be a Hugh Jackman or Kylie Minogue (although even she's pushing it now) to be a proper famous Australian celebrity in Australia.
lolllllllllll by StrokerX	Nov 7th, 2008 04:13:52 PM
hells yeah James
What a Shame that....... by D o o d	Nov 7th, 2008 04:15:08 PM
a world class director has to be pulled in to comment on something he isn't working on or has seen anything of. I think the best way to judge a movie is to see it when it's released, not through heresay comments on sites such as this one. Even if the site is trying to be as fair as possible.
Mc G didn't send the script.... by 420 Boylston St	Nov 7th, 2008 04:15:34 PM
Because they don't give a rats ass about Cameron's opinion. This is their shitfest and if it's successful they want to have full credit without IRONJIM getting any of it! I hope this film flops because I already tilted my shit o meter!
Sam Worthington is also gonne be Perseus... by TheBoManKicksAssAndTakesBlame	Nov 7th, 2008 04:23:28 PM
In the Clash Of The Titans remake. They better make it good!
Footage Still Available by bubbatwo420	Nov 7th, 2008 04:26:59 PM
It seems the links are gone and the embeds are gone but you can still access the webpage if you copy and paste the URL into your browser: http://www.traileraddict.com/t railer/terminator-salvation/fe aturette-the-art-of-martin-lai ng seems cooler than i would have though...
The REAL question is... by I_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looki ng_for	Nov 7th, 2008 04:41:45 PM
Why the FUCK are they wasting King Camerons time with BULLSHIT "blessing" questions, when they should be asking about AVATAR! Give me some rumour, innuendo or heresay! Please! Cameron obviously rules with an iron fist and will cock-punch anyone who gives anything away! Wheres Kirsten Dunst when we need her!?
Cameron said "steaming pile" THREE times... by Bill Clay	Nov 7th, 2008 04:44:00 PM
That whole statement was a total bitchslap disguised as a compliment.
After this, WB will pursues McG for Superman re-boot by DarthBakpao	Nov 7th, 2008 04:45:01 PM
I personally think McG will hit it big time with Terminator Salvation. What is going to be ironic if, in 2009, Avatar flops and Terminator Salvation makes a killing at the box office. Now, there are two premonitions for you guys. Remember, you read it here first.
TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION by Turd Furgeson	Nov 7th, 2008 04:49:20 PM
Dude that shit was funny!!!! I'm surprised you didn't get a reaction. That just made me laugh my ass off. Thanks dude. the TFD-5000, hahaha!
quit arguing about how it looks by punto	Nov 7th, 2008 04:51:25 PM
you just saw a youtube video, how the fuck can you tell "how it looks"? unless youtube has a new "watch in 32mm quality" feature, everyone STFU.
Why is everyone in love with Sam Worthington? by zooch	Nov 7th, 2008 05:06:37 PM
Seriously, he must be a really rad dude.
McG overplayed Cameron's support by zooch	Nov 7th, 2008 05:08:36 PM
and probably wasn't able to seend the script because Nolan was retooling it.
Looks pretty lame by Mr. Moe	Nov 7th, 2008 05:16:39 PM
For the most part it looks like Transformers meets Reign of Fire, and not in a good way either. The giant Terminators with human skin make me laugh; seriously, what was SkyNet thinking. The motorcycle Terminators are a retard concept and seem to be typical McG.
No alternate link? by SoWasRed2012	Nov 7th, 2008 05:43:37 PM
I wanna see this, pissed that I didn't catch it before it was taken down...
James Cameron uses the word "diss"? by -guyinthebackrow	Nov 7th, 2008 05:50:20 PM
This has to be fake.
Jim Out??? by TooWhippy	Nov 7th, 2008 06:17:43 PM
and I thought only douche bags like Ryan Seacrest said stuff like that?
-guyinthebackrow by hobsnobber	Nov 7th, 2008 06:19:11 PM
That exact thought crossed my mind.
Props to big Jim for giving us the word. by DarthCorleone	Nov 7th, 2008 06:22:45 PM
Terminator is a universe still rife for good storytelling. I hope McG is up to the challenge.
Read his lips... by Sackratte	Nov 7th, 2008 06:25:41 PM
The master has spoken! And I have to say I give a shit about a new Terminator movie. For me the franchise ended with the second one. Everything was said then. I don't need new movies.
Sam Worthington by Geekgasm	Nov 7th, 2008 06:30:50 PM
I thought that was the guy who played Jimmy Olsen in Superman Returns. Who the hell am I thinking of?
bubbatwo420 - not working by Superflyfox	Nov 7th, 2008 06:52:30 PM
Why you wasting my time with shit links with spaces in them?
This is why you should NEVER log off AICN by The Reluctant Austinite	Nov 7th, 2008 07:06:20 PM
The minute you leave, something cool gets posted and then taken down. I saw the footage, and I was actually shocked at how much stuff I was seeing for the first time in a "behind the scenes" context instead of a slick trailer. Anyway, the rest of you, keep your eyeballs glued to Harry's site 24/7. You can sleep when your dead.
Hybrids by The Brains	Nov 7th, 2008 07:19:58 PM
Sam Worthington's international recognition so far has been that Cameron hired him- a relative unknown- for the main role in 'Avatar'. So he's more of a "next big thing". His biggest film in Australia is probably 'Somersault' and he is known for the TV series 'Love My Way' as well. Sam HUNTINGton was Jimmy Olsen in 'Superman Returns'.
by The Brains	Nov 7th, 2008 07:23:24 PM
Not to say that he's necessarily a household name in Australia a la Hugh Jackman- yet. (It depends on the success of his international films as well.)
Jim Cameron Cast Sam In A Spy Film Ala True Lies!!! by Media Messiah	Nov 7th, 2008 09:00:04 PM
I love Sam Worthington, and trust me, he is the next big thing!!! The guy is brilliant!!! I'm writing a super hero script, if I could pick anybody to play the character, he'd be the best choice!!!
That binary explains so much. Skynet-- by kabong	Nov 7th, 2008 09:16:29 PM
[NO CARRIER]
They got an actor from Australia because Arnold by kabong	Nov 7th, 2008 09:17:57 PM
was from Austria. That's how they cast in Hollyweird. The msg above is not based on truth, so far as I know on a Friday night.
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Sam Worthington has been awful in everything I've seen him in. by benito	Nov 7th, 2008 10:20:50 PM
But then I've only seen him in Australian movies, which tend to be terrible. That and Harts War, where someone else had to dub in his dialogue on account of his performance. I'm curious to see how he is in a film directed by someone with competence though, and am prepared to be pleasantly surprised by his work in Avatar. Cameron certainly fought hard to get to use him so that's encouraging. Check him out as the lead in the recent Aussie version of Macbeth though. He and it are unwatchable.
Cameron's notes on the script by timmer33	Nov 7th, 2008 10:45:10 PM
It makes sense why they never sent James Cameron the script. You just know that he would send back a crapload of notes. And that would put McG and Co. in a bad position. If they ignore the notes, it means really bad press. But to change things based on them would likely mean changing the entire film --- something they probably aren't prepared to do. Face it: we'll probably end up with a good action flick, but probably not something that feels like it belongs in the T1/T2 universe, or something that was created by Jim Cameron. Timmer33 out.
the fast Term-Bikes are too Matrixy. Like the rest. by future help	Nov 7th, 2008 11:27:49 PM
i want to see raw Terminator action. not too slick. Like most of the other clips though.
DRACULA_WANTS_THE_AMULET...you may be right. by future help	Nov 7th, 2008 11:30:18 PM
im afraid, yet some hope.
if McG hits it out of the park... by lynxpro	Nov 7th, 2008 11:44:38 PM
you watch the number of TalkBackers who start magically musing that McG should've done the last Superman film. Hey, I was fine with either him or Bay doing it as long as it wasn't that krap JJ Abrams script. Of course what we ended up with was far worse.
Movie by CGI_Pants	Nov 8th, 2008 12:47:53 AM
Looked good...until: "Come with me if you wanna live." Christ, Jesus. Why? We get it. It's a new terminator movie. But some random dude doesn't need to say lines for a fucking elbow rib reaction shot. We get it already without that! It's just like "I've got a bad feeling about this" in Star Wars. Once 18 different people over the course of something like 70 years have said it, it just really becomes juvenile. Otherwise, I really like what I see here, but they need to cut that line and they need to stop calling this dude McG. It sounded even more rediculous having a grown man say it while talking about somebody. WTF!
Get It While It Lasts Folks by tolomey	Nov 8th, 2008 01:04:12 AM
http://www.dumbdrum.com/termin ator-salvation-featurette-the- art-of-martin-laing/ Enjoy guys, I did, the movie looks like it really could be very good indeed
Damn You Michael Bay by MCMLXXVI	Nov 8th, 2008 02:40:41 AM
Damn You Michael Bay
Are You Guys On Crack? by MANZILLA	Nov 8th, 2008 02:41:25 AM
The looks fucking stupid. The only thing that looks cool was the t-600 but thats going to end up sucking because its PG-13
who was that who said by Rufferto	Nov 8th, 2008 02:48:05 AM
"come with me if you want to live" ? He/she? looked like teen John O'conner. :/ I'm probably just tired.
Blockbuster filmmaking by kwisatzhaderach	Nov 8th, 2008 02:50:22 AM
is in the toilet. And only Jim Cameron can get it back out.
and by John O' conner I mean by Rufferto	Nov 8th, 2008 02:51:45 AM
Edward Furlong.
'Masterpiece' or 'Big Steaming Pile'? by BiggusDickus	Nov 8th, 2008 02:59:07 AM
Guess where my money is?
problem with the t600 by scotsman75	Nov 8th, 2008 03:25:23 AM
didnt kyle reese say they noticed the 600 series because they had rubber skin??what ,he didnt notice they were fucking 8 foot tall?doesnt make sense.
kyle reese in footage by scotsman75	Nov 8th, 2008 03:30:50 AM
by the way the kid who says,come with me line is meant to be kyle reese.
kwisatzhaderach by optimus122	Nov 8th, 2008 03:56:55 AM
How does Camerons ball sack taste?
Is it just me....? by Ray Gamma	Nov 8th, 2008 04:06:49 AM
Or does James Cameron come over as the arrogant cock in this story?
Uhh, this looks fucking cool by geraldbeans	Nov 8th, 2008 04:22:23 AM
Movie is looking more and more awesome - I stuck up for McG from the get go because I have the maturity to look past someone's name. But this whole L.A. Fagiola shit he pulled where he made the pretend "I care" phone call - which was really just publicity courtesy bullshit - to Cameron, promised him something, then flaked, is flying in the face of everything he pretends to stand for. Seriously McG? You said you'd send him the script then didn't? I would pay every cent in my bank account (which isn't much, I admit) for notes on one page of one of my scripts from James Cameron. And you have the chance to get notes from the CREATOR OF THE FRANCHISE OF THE MOVIE YOU'RE MAKING????? Who the fuck's wild idea was it to ignore that shit?? Very disappointing. I'll still see your movie, but you dropped half a ladder on the respect-o-meter with that bullshit move.
Ray, Cameron has always been an arrogant prick by geraldbeans	Nov 8th, 2008 04:23:30 AM
But the rule of thumb is, you're allowed to be an arrogant prick when you're a genius.
King of the World Vs King of the Dump Heap by TurdontheRun	Nov 8th, 2008 04:31:02 AM
Sounds like a back-handed compliment to me. Of course, Iron Jim said he liked T3 as well, and AVP, but I reckon he was just being polite. I've seen footage of him denouncing AVP after the fact. So I guess he's just hedging his bets. oh, dear, Jim, why did you have to get married to Linda Hamilton and lose the terminator rights in the subsequent divorce settlement? if not we would have seen a Cameron T3, and none of this subsequent crap. McG is indeed a fly on the mountain of dung that is the majority of modern genre filmmaking. Mr. Cameron please get the finger out and show us some footage of Avatar forthwith, to wash away the bad taste of this travesty-in-waiting!
The Sarah Connor Chronicles T600 by Shan	Nov 8th, 2008 04:35:21 AM
The T600 in The Sarah Connor Chronicles was much closer to the mark. The implication in the first Terminator film is that the T600 was a prototype attempt at an infiltration unit, so you'd think they were roughly the average size of a human being for starters.
many things dumb by rememberface	Nov 8th, 2008 05:06:25 AM
the first things which bothered me were from the teaser. That huge t-01 "hiding" underwater. How in the fuck is that 11 ft tall 10 ft wide robot submerged in waist deep water in a sewer...why does it wait to jump out at such an opportune time to "scare" everyone...musn't they have had to walk on top of it heading in that direction? Did its robot programming tell itself to go into a sewer and wait for humans...and hide? It's a fucking tank precticly. Rediculous. Terminator Motorcycles? wtf is this shit...dumbest idea ever. This isn't transformers you douche bag. 8 ft tall "infiltrator" bots with massive guns...oooh yeah very good for infiltrating unoticed...if you're gonna go all stupid with the original idea of the t-600 at least get proper sound design for the minigun! and if i see more then 1 crushed skull in this film i swear to god i'll infiltrate McG's office and punch him in his McChin.. come with me if you want to live. UGH!!! ACTION! - stare at the hydro bot (hydro for fuck sakes)...good keep staring...move closer....cloooser....and ACTIVATE BLADE MOUTH! BALE JUMP BACK! AH! resistance fighters stuggle!! imagine it waving around...more MORE!!! and then power it down...CUT! wonderful...you really sold me on your curiosity bale... sigh, very original. if its PG13 god help us all. I'll give props to the composition and general aesthetic of the limited footage we've seen...but have to hold that critique for when its in context really. Seems a tad unfinished too and inconsistent...specifically the truck and motorbike shots. but its probably in ILMs pipeline atm. Anywaysss....needs more cameron...can't believe he didn't read the script either. way to fuck up a goddam golden opp. end rant. pls prove me wrong McG by making it realistic and visceral...hopefully i'll care for the characters too...that would be nice.
fucked up the t600 by scotsman75	Nov 8th, 2008 05:17:33 AM
yeah the t600 to me was meant to be similar to a t800 only with rubber skin,i dont get the 8ft tall thing.why even bother with skin it dont look human anyway.looks like they got it very wrong.
How could something THIS WELL PRODUCED... by cornponious	Nov 8th, 2008 05:25:30 AM
NOT be an official release?
Rapidshare link by chuffsterUK	Nov 8th, 2008 05:49:18 AM
http://rapidshare.com/files/16 1480414/T4_Art.mp4.html
that T-600 sure would look great in a QUAKE movie. by future help	Nov 8th, 2008 08:34:34 AM
doesn't add up it Terminator movie. And i hate the TermBikes! (too fast, too slick, too Transformers/Matrix)
pretty cool music by most excellent ninja	Nov 8th, 2008 10:25:06 AM
wouldn't mind it if it was part of the movie.
Star Wars and Lord of the Rings = pinnacles of Prod Design by most excellent ninja	Nov 8th, 2008 10:29:58 AM
those are movies bathed in concept art and design, it's exciting just thinking about the process for major movies like that.
New Download Link. Act NOW! by mentatduke.com	Nov 8th, 2008 10:36:16 AM
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why isnt anyone making a deal of Nolan? by mmaddox3	Nov 8th, 2008 10:49:56 AM
I mean according to IMDB Jonathan Nolan is a writer on this script, and by my count he has one hell of a track record. That alone gets me wicked excited for this one.
Zach Snyder can go FUCK HIMSELF : by PTSDPete	Nov 8th, 2008 11:29:12 AM
http://www.darkhorizons.com/ne ws08/081107k.php " A few online fanboys have been disappointed by reports from the test screening of the changed ending. Specifically a key moment in the graphic novel revolves around the disastrous repercussions of a 'giant alien squid' being teleported into New York City, an event that is changed in the movie (there's still a disaster but no squid). Snyder says "The fans, god love 'em, they're all up in arms about the squid. What they should be up in arms about are things like shooting the pregnant woman, 'God is real and he's American', whether THAT's in the movie. That's my point of view, maybe I'm crazy." He does admit that the ending scenes with the main characters remain, as does the 'moral imperative' of the comic's ending. What about talk he did some 'squid' stuff in pre-production? "Well... I don't want to say yes or no (laughs). The squid was not in the movie when I got the script, the squid was never in any draft that I saw. My point is only that there was this elegant solution to the squid problem that I kind of embraced. I'm a fan of the thing as much as anyone, I was saying what are we going to do about this before I even read the script." Was that solution multiple atomic explosions as some have said? "I won't say exactly but... Dr. Manhattan has a certain energy signature, it's clearly his thing...so you know." He also shot down reports of multiple endings - they only filmed the one. "
Yeah the Watchmen ending is ruined by most excellent ninja	Nov 8th, 2008 11:34:26 AM
ohh well. There goes the fanboy love for Zack Snyder, and the squid is a major thing. Putting the blame on Dr Manhattan doesn't really make sense. Doesn't have that idea that humanity would only unite against an external threat and no it isn't Dr Manhattan is suddenly a god now and not human.
in other news im gonna take a shit by sleepytones	Nov 8th, 2008 12:34:40 PM
and it'll look like the t-1000 in my toilet
Cameron - who cares? by Jodet	Nov 8th, 2008 12:40:48 PM
Seriously, he's not all that. Who cares what he thinks about someone elses movie?
Jodet by MANZILLA	Nov 8th, 2008 01:07:29 PM
"Seriously, he's not all that. Who cares what he thinks about someone elses movie" No offense, but that statement is offensive on so many levels.
PURE FUCKING ARROGANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by Illuminate	Nov 8th, 2008 02:02:01 PM
Let me get this straight, McG didn't send James Cameron. Either McG or Jonathan Nolan are on a high horse and think that they can make this film without the original creators input. The number one box office Director's opinion who's movie still kicked the shit out of the Dark Knight at the box office. It is still number 2 and it would not have made as much without the passing of the Great Heath Ledger. Even though Cameron was going to give his unpaid opinion it is still James Cameron and he would have given those jackasses more input and connection to things he didn't explain in the previous films to better connect part 4. Plus, Cameron never does anything half ass even if he is not getting paid. Let me put it another way, if I am a fucking painter and Micheal Angelo comes back to life and offers me advice on paint than I am going to fucking take it. What a bunch of dumb jackasses. First that bullshit pg-13 and now this. If this film fails they have no one to blame but themselves. Christian Bale has box office but, that will not guarantee that that film makes as much as T-2.
Michael Angelo by I_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looki ng_for	Nov 8th, 2008 05:13:40 PM
Give him some bitches, gold teeth and an attitude and he'd be number one on the charts.
James Cameron is an Asshole by MANZILLA	Nov 8th, 2008 05:24:35 PM
If I knew him personally id probably hate his guts, and for good reason. But that doesnt discount the fact that he is probably among the 5 greatest directors of all time. I mean who is more of an asshole? A prick who gives his absolute all who goes out of his way to earn my $8.50 like cameron, or a guy like Paul Anderson who serves up shit after shit to unsuspecting audiences while enriching himself in the process
AICN your search function is shit! by I_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looki ng_for	Nov 8th, 2008 05:37:10 PM
I posted this on the previous T4/Cameron talkback, it still holds up... "From what i can tell, Jim Cameron doesn't have any interest in the terminator franchise anymore. He's moved on and left it to the talentless circle jerkers to exploit his original work for all the coin they can get. If you read his quote he says he hasn't read the script. And just like everyone else, he has no idea if its going to be any good or not. I for one cannot fucking wait until Avatar hits. I've been waiting 11 years for new Cameron. Only one more to go! He's a legend. And for those who think he's an arrogant cock... thats what you get when you stick to your fucking guns and put your vision on the screen. If you don't take shit, people think you're an asshole. I'd rather watch a masterwork by an complete asshole, than a steaming load of shit by a pandering pussy like McG."
Wahhhh no giant squid by MetiphisLabs	Nov 8th, 2008 07:18:03 PM
Honestly, I'm as big a fan of the comic as anyone... the giant squid isn't that fucking important. The hilarious thing is you people are gonna let the thing not being in there ruin the entire experience for you. There was no Tom Bombadil in LoTR, there's no giant sq
Illuminate by Carl XVI Gustaf	Nov 8th, 2008 07:18:34 PM
so what are you saying, Titanic is better than Dark Knight? Shame on you!
Complainers forget one thing... by Carl XVI Gustaf	Nov 8th, 2008 07:21:51 PM
Christian Bale. Also on the T-600 being too big for posing as a human? "this isnt the future my mother warned me about". Done.
MetiphisLabs by most excellent ninja	Nov 8th, 2008 10:38:47 PM
Tom Bombadil isn't essential in any way to the journey of Frodo. The Squid is, it's relevant to the plot, to the actual ending, to the moral dillemma between Ozy and Dr Manhattan, to the comics commentary of four colored monsters. dumb fuck.
Huge T600=Good by POST	Nov 8th, 2008 11:45:18 PM
Kyle Reese talked about the 600s being tricky from a distance, but easily spotted up close. T600 being big fits in fine with this line, thus there is no problem with it.
WhinyNegativeBitch: lives up to name. by Regicidal_Maniac	Nov 9th, 2008 03:11:43 AM
This film looks cool so far! The Terminatorcycles are awesome looking. I hope the storyline is good, I'm with Jim on that, though I'm far from the arrogant cunt he has become. As for Sam and the Edgerton's, what's your beef? Joel and Nash are just a couple of cool guys who live near me and are finally getting to do what they always wanted to do, pissfart about in front and behind the camera. They're living the dream. And from what I hear Sam Worthington is a decent all around good guy. Pick your targets WNB.
by rememberface	Nov 9th, 2008 03:15:31 AM
tricky from a distance? like what 2 kms? retarded. What about the underwater sewer tank and the termbikes? kinda lame no? Cameron writes character amazingly well...even supporting characters are interesting and you actually care what happens to them. (think vasquez and gorman...now we get common and moon bloodgood trying to play resistance fighters.) He takes his time developing interesting personalities to fit into a story not the other way around. Concept and production design? as important as that is McG better just get the fuckin characters working. Sam worthington was good in that crocidile movie...uhh whats it...Rogue
was there any doubt the ART DIRECTION was going to be good? by Maniaq	Nov 9th, 2008 04:04:32 AM
coz I don't think anyone ever criticised McG for having films that LOOK crap - I'm sure this film will LOOK pretty fuckin fantastic, but I STILL can't say whether or not it will... to coin a phrase... be a steaming pile
can't believe they didn't send the script t Cameron by Mr Gorilla	Nov 9th, 2008 04:12:40 AM
I mean, TITANIC is peppered with so many brilliant, memorable bits of dialogue.
Ack, superfluous apostrophe by Regicidal_Maniac	Nov 9th, 2008 04:18:18 AM
Ehh, and after only a half a glass of wine too. Poor show RM poor show.
AVATAR - Fucking your eyeballs in 2009!!!!! by Motoko Kusanagi	Nov 9th, 2008 06:10:00 AM
Fuck Yeah! Nothing else matters!
nash edgerton is a.... by Smithys.Bark	Nov 9th, 2008 06:29:27 AM
enough said!....actually, when does his film, the square, get a release or go straight to video...did I blink? Keep doing stunt work!...Worthington is cool, nice cameo in Rogue, wicked film!
LOOKS BRILLIANT! BUT... by A G	Nov 9th, 2008 06:42:42 AM
They positively NEED to remove the skull being crushed underfoot scene and the little boy saying "Come with me if you want to live". These little nods are rampant and seriously distracting in these kind of movies. Let the movie speak for itself.
Nothing like a 54 year old multi millionaire saying "diss" by JackRabbitSlim	Nov 9th, 2008 07:25:02 AM
Nothing quite like AARP members trying to stay with it - what's next Jimmy - going to drop some Hell Rell references on us? And wait a sec - did i just see a "one of 5 greatest directors of all time"? Oh yeah - hes about to knock David Lean out of the vaunted five - no, I don't fucking think so.
And spare us that "stick to artistic vision" crap by JackRabbitSlim	Nov 9th, 2008 07:33:21 AM
The ONLY reason that Cameron has his "artistic vision" (seriously - has their ever been a more pretentious phrase - EVER?) is because his films all raked in a "bailout of AIG" level of bank. Vincent Gallo stuck to his "artistic vision" until Brown Bunny shit the bed. Newsflash - an asshole is still an ASSHOLE no matter how much artistic vision it has.
JackRabbitSlim by lynxpro	Nov 9th, 2008 11:42:13 AM
But to have an artistic vision, one has to be an actual artist in the first place. Vincent Gallo is a whiny puss. C'mon. Before complaining about The Brown Bunny, you should take into account that Buffalo 66 or whatever that prior film of his was sucked too (no pun intended). The only artistic value that guy has is in his ability to con "investors" into giving him money to make his crappy films. Congrats to him because even Uwe Boll couldn't do that without German tax breaks. Then again, Uwe hasn't had Chloe What's-Her-Name blowing him on camera though. Although Boll is a fearless mofo with his cracking those Nazi gold jokes; obviously he doesn't care about offending the 10 people that will actually rent Postal.
what I don't like by mr.brownstone	Nov 9th, 2008 07:27:20 PM
is Kyle Reese's dainty little bangs popping out of his Tiny Tim hat. Awwww. Also, has many above have mentioned they better have a damn good reason for the T600 being ten feet tall. It looks kind of ridiculous and logically is on par with a direct to VHS movie by Charles Band.
ricarleite by Regicidal_Maniac	Nov 9th, 2008 09:16:11 PM
Yeah, the good old days before this place sold out and became "The Man". Back when they broke stories instead of killing potentially god films at script stage. No one can tell be that if they put the scripts of Cigarette Burns / Pro-Life / Ghost Town next to JJ Abrams Superman Flyby script that they wouldn't be able to tell which one was written by a professional writer and which were written by an amateur. Really.
whoops good not god by Regicidal_Maniac	Nov 9th, 2008 09:17:25 PM
Arrgh, wine last night, sugar rush from a Bounty just now. Never my fault. ;)
Meh. by Brians Life	Nov 9th, 2008 10:28:08 PM
Me thinks some of you forget that the guy directing this has not made one single good movie. The Production design looks way too slick for a Terminator movie...too polished. Better fit for a Matrix or Michael Bay movie....ah fuck it...everything is gonna be remade and fucked over with before I die. MIGHT AS WELL ENJOY THE RIDE!!!!!! WOOOOO!!!!
Jim said he liked T3 and it WAS a steaming pile, (until Uncanny by Regicidal_Maniac	Nov 10th, 2008 05:19:10 AM
The man gave us two incredible Terminator films and then he was done with it, unfortunately there was a third, which sucked (until Uncanny Antman's edit made it enjoyable and watchable at least.) Anyway Terminator 4 looks to be Salvation at last. As Brian said, sit back and enjoy the ride. WOOOOOO!
T4 may possibly be good, but... by Orbots Commander	Nov 11th, 2008 10:14:13 AM
...if one is going to judge based on past performance, McG's oeuvre, so to speak, does not inspire confidence. We Are Marshall was an okay movie, but in the 1980's it would have been a Movie of the Week on a network channel. Then again, James Cameron came out of nowhere to direct the first Terminator flick, so you never know. I guess it still all comes down to the quality of the screenplay that McG shot.

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