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UNIVERSAL SOLDIER 3 Moving Ahead!! Peter Hyams Shooting But Not Directing?? Van Damme Is In!! Dolph Has 'No Value'!?!?

yikes by reckni	Nov 5th, 2008 06:13:37 PM
That's sad!
The sequel madness has to stop!!! by Ribbons	Nov 5th, 2008 06:13:54 PM
That's right, I used three exclamation points! They're robbing us of our culture, people!
Peter Hyams by kwisatzhaderach	Nov 5th, 2008 06:14:53 PM
is working for Simon Fellows? How the mighty have fallen...
Van Damme GOTTA EAT !!!!!! by RocknDog	Nov 5th, 2008 06:16:02 PM

Re-invent this by PorkChopXpress	Nov 5th, 2008 06:16:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =M_0kKACp11Y
I COME IN PEACE !!! by RocknDog	Nov 5th, 2008 06:18:05 PM
Where is the sequel to that ??!!!
YOU LEAVE IN PIECES!!! by MCVamp	Nov 5th, 2008 06:20:23 PM
Dolph deserves better. Just saying.
Peter Hyams... wasn't he always his own DP? by Drunken Rage	Nov 5th, 2008 06:26:38 PM
Or did I make that up? I don't think so. Regardless, yeah, if he's shooting someone else's movie, that's kind of odd.
Drunken Rage by Merrick	Nov 5th, 2008 06:28:49 PM
He's always his own DP. This is the first time he's been DP for a movie he wasn't personally directing (as far as I know),
I thought they already made this? by Lutz	Nov 5th, 2008 06:36:06 PM
Seriously I have a memory of watching Universal Soldier 2 on TV then seeing no 3 the next week. Anyway WTF I love Dolph at least as good as Jean - they should bring in Grace Jones so that they have three soldiers for the third movie.
I'll take sequels over prequels or remakes any day by Sick Fixx	Nov 5th, 2008 06:37:40 PM
At least sequels are the next logical step in the storytelling process. But the universe of a prequel can't logically spring into being AFTER the original.
3? by Bouncy X	Nov 5th, 2008 06:38:08 PM
this would actually be part 5. i realize the canadian sequels are terrible pieces of shit but i doubt its coincidence that "The Return" didnt contain a 4. anyway....why the hell would Dolph return? didnt he die? wasnt he like pulverized into little pieces or something?
I don't know how reliable this info is... by Gungan Slayer	Nov 5th, 2008 06:47:11 PM
Could just be Van Damme talking out of his ass to drum up support. Certainly wouldn't be the first time someone has done such a thing.
I WON'T PAY TO SEE THIS WITHOUT DOLPH... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Nov 5th, 2008 06:48:22 PM
....and I will tell everyone I know NOT to see this because they told Dolph (baddest motherfucker alive) to fuck himself. You know what you get when you make a Universal Soldier with just Van Damme and no Dolph? UNIVERSAL SOLDIER 2: THE RETURN. Yeah.....FUCK OFF and give Dolph a call and apologize.
Merrick-- thank you by Drunken Rage	Nov 5th, 2008 06:48:38 PM

Gungan Slayer by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Nov 5th, 2008 06:49:01 PM
True-- he could be pulling a Sleazy Favreau on us.
I really dig Hyams photography.... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Nov 5th, 2008 06:49:29 PM
...he shoots his films dangerously dark. I like that.
Whoever the fuck said "No Dolph" should be fucking castrated by Stuntcock Mike	Nov 5th, 2008 06:56:56 PM
with a soldering iron. Whatever genitals remain should be fed to Dolph's dogs. Now, bring on Command Performance RIGHT FUCKING NOW!
Man, this just pisses me right off. by Stuntcock Mike	Nov 5th, 2008 07:02:08 PM
OLEG is not pleased. I can feel it.
Van Damme is due a Tarantino makeover by Damien Chowder	Nov 5th, 2008 07:02:32 PM

No Dolph? by TiNSeLToWN TeRRoR	Nov 5th, 2008 07:07:21 PM
they are idiots.
There was a Universal Soldier 2? by I Dunno	Nov 5th, 2008 07:08:32 PM
Ok. Well anyway, guys like Jean Claude Van Damme, Steven Segal and all the other douchebags who got away with convincing the rest of us that they were martial arts action heroes need to accept that they were made irrelevant the instant the Hong Kong action heroes made it to America.
I still like Dolph's Punisher flick... by lynxpro	Nov 5th, 2008 07:14:12 PM
Sure, it looks like a made for cable flick, but it has one hell of a body count to it. It is a great B flick.
Too bad, I would've seen it if it had Dolph, too... by Forsakyn	Nov 5th, 2008 07:38:10 PM
But whatever. That said, I'm glad Van Damme tried to get him in it.
Wow, they just came right out and said it this time. by fractureJonze	Nov 5th, 2008 07:50:43 PM
They really don't care about what we think after all do they?
Reminds me of an Onion Headline from a few years ago. by Wheel99	Nov 5th, 2008 08:10:22 PM
Dolph Lundgren wins lengthy battle over fame
Wasn't Dolph grinded up in US 1??? by Demode	Nov 5th, 2008 08:15:52 PM
It's been a while, but wasn't Dolph grinded up in a machine at the end off the film? I think it would be a bit hard to bring the character back, unless he was a clone or something.
Vern needs to chime in on this travesty me thinks. by Stuntcock Mike	Nov 5th, 2008 08:41:54 PM

Dolph can't be in this by Jarek	Nov 5th, 2008 08:43:24 PM
He was chopped into a billion tiny pieces in the first one.
OLEG vs. Grinder = Fucked up grinder by Stuntcock Mike	Nov 5th, 2008 08:44:19 PM
He's fine though. Just needs a change of clothes.
No Dolph? What about Goldberg? by the milf lover	Nov 5th, 2008 08:48:57 PM
or even Ally Walker or Kiana Tom? hell, at least bring back Zeus or Gary Busey!
The OLEG brotherhood needs to chime in on this as well by Stuntcock Mike	Nov 5th, 2008 08:58:02 PM
'cause this news sucks balls.
Wow. by Orbots Commander	Nov 5th, 2008 09:29:37 PM
What a comedown for both Dolph Lundgren and Peter Hyams. I can't the producers regarding Hyams though; anybody actually try to watch A SOUND OF THUNDER? I tried watching it on cable once and had to restrain myself from clawing my eyes out.
by Orbots Commander	Nov 5th, 2008 09:29:52 PM

Damn fingers...typos: by Orbots Commander	Nov 5th, 2008 09:31:18 PM
'I can't blame the producers regarding Hyams...'
Peter Hyams hasn't made a competent movie since The Relic by Nasty In The Pasty	Nov 5th, 2008 09:42:42 PM
And that was ELEVEN YEARS ago.
NO VALUE?? by caruso_stalker217	Nov 5th, 2008 09:59:26 PM
Dolph is fucking better than UNIVERSAL SOLDIER 3 anyway, though a Van Damme/Lundgren reunion would totally rock the shit. Anyway fuck you, powers that be.
Maybe if they did a prequel.. by two fathoms deep	Nov 5th, 2008 10:12:10 PM
they could bring him back, but seriously, he would not be passable as a human if he was in this. He'd be all sewn together. Oh, wait. That would kind of be badass.
since someone asked...well sorta by Bouncy X	Nov 5th, 2008 10:12:49 PM
yes there was a Universal Soldier 2 and even a Part 3. but as i mentioned earlier, they were shitty canadian DTV movies. Part 2 went even as far as to redo the last few minutes of the first movie. i'm sure they're not available much outside canada so The Return is probably considered 2 hence why this new one would be part 3 but yeah....its still wrong on so many levels.
I'm gonna get fried for saying this by StraightToHell	Nov 5th, 2008 10:28:01 PM
but I dug Sound of Thunder. I know the CGI was pretty corny, but that's what gave the movie this kind of odd charm. Hyams is also a superb DP and this movie looked pretty damn great. Very dark. I think that Hyams really was a very underrated director in his prime. For a while he was going from a solid movie to a solid movie non-stop. Capricorn One, 2010 (which is a pretty awesome film on its own apart from 2001), Outland (one of Connery's best films), The Star Chamber, Timecop, Narrow Margin. And lets not forget one of the best buddy action/comedies of all time - Running Scared. This is a movie that just keeps getting better with age. It's crammed with hilarious one-liners, has terrific action sequences and features the best performances of Gregory Hines and Billy Crustal's careers. I can quote this movie all day long. "Hey, you shot my partner!" "Takes it easy, you're upsetting the prisoners." "Why should THEY be upset you didn't shoot THEM!!!"
If rumours are true... by dogrobber	Nov 5th, 2008 11:00:42 PM
...Dolph is retired from acting. Supposedly had a bad experience making his last film. He might have said no to them and they are just spinning it. On the other hand if Mr. Hyams is attached, and the paycheck is good, why say no?
If this is a fanboy dream movie, why not do it right? by KISSman24	Nov 5th, 2008 11:06:33 PM
Seriously, Dolph is important to those of us who might actually care to see it -- ESPECIALLY if it is a straight-to-DVD release. I'm a fan of the original and I'd want to see them both in it. That is what made the movie special. It wasn't the story. It wasn't just JCVD. It was watching JCVD vs. Ivan Drago. And today, I still want to see them duke it out or pair up. Either way, if they don't bring back Dolph, the jokers behind this movie are making a big error. If you are going to make a movie that needs to appeal to the fanboys, do it the f*ck right. What a way to kill the excitement about this movie.
outland and 2010 by Derek Wildstarr	Nov 5th, 2008 11:36:19 PM
Hyams gets a lifetime pass from me for these 2 early 80's movies that had no CGI and used real sets. I love the early 80's. Oh and the Relic sucks.
Derek Wildstarr I couldn't agree more on by StraightToHell	Nov 5th, 2008 11:53:29 PM
Outland and 2010. Outland is unbelievably atmospheric and is photographed on the level of Alien and Blade Runner. In fact, I'll go as far as to say that Cameron got the majority of the look of Aliens from Outland. The whole blue-collar workers in space (albeit started in Alien) was clearly a big influence on Cameron in Aliens. And Connery is just magnetic. Probably his most sublte and underrated performance ever. His moments of silence (especially towards the end) have more to say than pages of dialogue. But Hyams clearly deserves a lions' share of credit for the movie. And 2010, if it wasn't related to 2001, would probably be considered one of the best sci-fi's of last 20-30 years. It has a brilliant cast (Scheider has never been better), has special effects (NO CGI you fuckers) that STILL hold up to this day, and is very very smart and respectful of science. Again, Hyams deserves tons of credit for this. Now, The Relic is not a great movie, but the monster is pretty cool and there are some truly scary moments, like seeing Tom Sizemore clean and sober :-) But I can't quite put my finger on what happened to Hyams of late. he did what he could for End of Days, and there are some effective scenes in the film, but it just didn't work. I didn't even bother seening the The Musketeer. Remember the one with John Ritter, Stay Tuned? Again, a few funny bits, but WTF? The Presidio is ok, with some pretty effective action scenes (and Connery in fine form again.) But the guy is clearly way more talented and competent to have this much of a drop in quality work. I wonder what happened. Interesting trivia, but, apparently, Hyams is pretty close friends with Cameron, and Cameron is the one who got Hyams the gig directing End of Days when Arnold was looking for a director.
Universal Soldier: The Return by BitterMan23	Nov 6th, 2008 12:17:35 AM
aka Universal Soldier 2 (but really 4) was Van Damme's last theatrical film in the states. It was the final straw that resulted in all his subsequent films going DTV. So it's kind of amusing that a 3rd one will be a part of his attempted comeback. And instead of Dolph, the Return had Goldberg and Michael Jai White. It was fucking terrible in every sense of the word.
IMDb plot confirms clone by BitterMan23	Nov 6th, 2008 12:21:38 AM
Luc Deveraux joins a U.S. team of Uni-Soldiers secretly held in deep storage. Their mission: retake Chernobyl and disable explosives that will unleash radioactive clouds. Luc discovers that one of the reactivated UniSoldiers is a clone of his old Sergeant, Andrew Scott.
Watch that YouTube trailer and you've seen the movie.... by BurnHollywood	Nov 6th, 2008 12:26:26 AM
No kidding. You will now live a fuller, happier life with an extra ninety minutes in it.
The Last Star Fighter by Derek Wildstarr	Nov 6th, 2008 12:41:27 AM
I did a photoshoot here in LA of this guy's drum set for a music company. The guy happened to be the young kid/star of The Last Starfighter which i thought was cool. But what was more interesting was that, he told me, his uncle-in-law was Peter Hyams. I said "holy shit i love Peter Hyams!" and dude was like "how the fuck do you even know who Peter Hyams is?". Clearly he underestimated my geek credentials. Sorry for the lame story but if i was ever going to tell it, it was here in this talkback.
Pointless. by otm shank	Nov 6th, 2008 01:34:14 AM
Just like Universal Soldier 2,3,and The Return. I agree with the "I Come In Peace" love though. Great little movie.
No Oleg, No Peace by Bloo	Nov 6th, 2008 01:45:47 AM
nuff said
Peter Hyams by palimpsest	Nov 6th, 2008 02:44:14 AM
IMDB (yeah, I know) shows Hyams is currently directing / DP / screenwriting a Michael Douglas movie, a remake of the minor noir classic BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. Hopefully he can pull off a good movie here - from PEEPER through to THE RELIC he had a solid 20 year run of geek-friendly movies, and he's got the best eye for lighting in the business.
I'm totally with you Straight To Hell!! by Maniaq	Nov 6th, 2008 03:36:56 AM
"it really works - the windows are bullet proof!" "thank you ACE!" "the windows won't roll down!" "fuck you ACE!" and 2010 = lifetime pass in my book, too
I'm all ears! by I_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looki ng_for	Nov 6th, 2008 05:13:21 AM
Universal Soldier was a great movie... when I last saw it! Which was about 15 years ago! The Relic was the last Hyams movie I remember really liking, but I haven't seen that in 10 years either. If I remember correctly half of the film was pitch black and only lighted with torches, and swat guys were getting chomped in half by the beast. A revisit of both films may be in order!
fuck off by Lost Jarv	Nov 6th, 2008 05:13:57 AM
No Dolph= me not watching.
The Relic by Lost Jarv	Nov 6th, 2008 05:15:20 AM
BLOWS like Hurricane Katrina. What a steaming pile of horse poo. But still No Dolph= me not watching it.
Hey Maniaq... by StraightToHell	Nov 6th, 2008 05:46:33 AM
"We got the flash from the coroner on the cause of death on the jumper." "Oh, let me guess...deceleration trauma?" "Err, cement poisoning?" or "Would get in the car MR. BACKUP!?!??!"
and another one by StraightToHell	Nov 6th, 2008 05:49:15 AM
"Should we tell the sphincter twins?" "You wanna get shot again?"
Before acting, Dolph was a chemical engineer by Hikaru Ichijo	Nov 6th, 2008 06:56:41 AM
It's true, I read it in PLAYBOY ten years ago, and at the time he was already talking about getting out of the biz. The guy is pretty smart, and has options not available to your typical actor.
Timecop by Rat Fink	Nov 6th, 2008 07:10:11 AM
was a good movie, probably one of JCVD's best.
All this talk... by KarmicRelief	Nov 6th, 2008 07:17:36 AM
...about Van Damme and Lundgren. How about bringing back Ralf Moeller!?!? Where's the love?
At least JCVD calls it like it is, and says by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Nov 6th, 2008 07:36:11 AM
Dolph has value, especially to him. US2 like Highlander 2 does not exist. US3 with Dolph would be the real sequel. They just take a chunk of the body, clone it, and voila, new OLEG soldier to battle JCVD.
DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD needs to be by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Nov 6th, 2008 07:37:16 AM
given an honorary membership in the OLEG club. He tells it like it is.
"Are we having fun yet?" will now be replaced by... by LaneMyersClassic	Nov 6th, 2008 07:49:22 AM
"I'm getting too old for this shit!" >>Jumping, explosion, running, another explosion
I have only ever seen JCVD in video by drunkenmonkey73	Nov 6th, 2008 08:24:46 AM
apart from Double Impact. Sudden Death was his best by far. I think after Blood sport and some earlier movies, it just seemed along time for he made some worthy big screen movies. I'm sure theirs a big movie out there for him. He deserves a break.
DPed by Dragon108	Nov 6th, 2008 08:25:43 AM
tee hee!
No Dolph!?!?! FUCK YOU VAN DAMME!!! by Mr Slippy Fist	Nov 6th, 2008 08:26:02 AM
Dolph Lundgren IS the epitome of the 80's Action Movies. Stallone, Arnold, Van Damme, and Seagal should all bow to this man's greatness. Red Scorpion, I Come in Piece, Showdown in Little Tokyo, the Punisher, Masters of the Universe, and Rocky IV. Van Damme should go back to making classics like Street Fighter or the Quest. He’s such a Belgian douche bag.
What in the shit is this? There's already 4 of them... by turketron	Nov 6th, 2008 09:11:25 AM
Universal Soldier III: Unfinished Business apparently came out 10 years ago, according to imdb. I remember when Universal Soldier: The Return came out in theaters... and apparently that was part 4. It had WCW's Goldberg and it sucked... I remember there was a building that had the fakest explosion ever at the end.
What in the shit is this? There's already 4 of them... by turketron	Nov 6th, 2008 09:11:25 AM
Universal Soldier III: Unfinished Business apparently came out 10 years ago, according to imdb. I remember when Universal Soldier: The Return came out in theaters... and apparently that was part 4. It had WCW's Goldberg and it sucked... I remember there was a building that had the fakest explosion ever at the end.
And there's apparently already 2 of my posts... by turketron	Nov 6th, 2008 09:12:31 AM

Yeah, I read that about Dolph too. by Orbots Commander	Nov 6th, 2008 09:53:47 AM
He's apparently a smart guy; he earned a Master's or Doctorate in Engineering, don't know at which university. If the acting thing doesn't work out, I'm sure he could just go and start a tech business in Silicon Valley.
Dolph Lundgren: The Credentials by TheLastCleric	Nov 6th, 2008 10:27:59 AM
3rd Degree blackbelt in Karate. Won the European championship in 1980 and 1981 and a heavyweight tournament in Australia. Holds a Master's Degree in Chemical Engineering. He speaks more than five languages and served as the team leader for the Modern Pentathlon Team for the Atlantic Games. He also dated Grace Jones and remains the only man to do so and not be eaten alive. Dolph is the real deal.
Here's why Dolph is awesome: by Admiral_Snackbar	Nov 6th, 2008 11:59:59 AM
When I go into a bar, I don't order a white russian, I order an Ivan Drago! (Granted, after a blank stare, I have to explain to the bartender that it's a white russian, but if we all do this, eventually the drink will be known as an Ivan Drago. Think about it. It's change we need.)
Grammaton Cleric Binks, agreed by Stuntcock Mike	Nov 6th, 2008 12:34:24 PM
He'd be right at home.
Yuck by eck_iii	Nov 6th, 2008 03:31:09 PM
I find every VanDamme film close to unwatchable. The guy can't act. The films are tedious at best. Dolph Lundgren won't help to make this film better. He's not much in the acting department either.
GODDAMMIT, THE WHOLE FUCKIN PLATOONS' DROPPING LIKE FLIES!!! by Pissed Off And Bitter	Nov 6th, 2008 04:19:00 PM
"WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU STARING AT?!? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT IT'S LIKE OUT THERE??! DO YA?!! WHEN I'M FIGHTING THIS WAR, I KICK ASS, YOU KISS ASS, AND I'M BUSTING HEADS!! And these SHITHEADS, these yellow-traitoring motherfuckers - they're everywhere. And I, Sargeant Andrew Scott of the U.S. Army. I'm gonna teach them....all....." Cmon, how can you not have the star of the biggest tirade in movies ever in the sequel?
What is it with guys named Peter's careers tanking? by Snake Foreskin	Nov 6th, 2008 06:43:14 PM
Peter Hyams was once a pretty heavy-hitting director. No more. Peter Yates was once a heavy-hitter. No more. If I was named Peter and a Hollywood director, I'd change my name to something else. Like Steven. Or George. Or James. Or Sly.
So this is a remake? by Series7	Nov 6th, 2008 07:07:08 PM
Because the last Universal Soilder with Micheal Jai White was #4?
So I guess this is bad news then right? by Series7	Nov 6th, 2008 07:09:32 PM
Peter Hyams is going to be the DP? So I guess they want a shitty ass DP? Hyams always makes his movies like lights don't exists. I mean the dude is getting pretty old, how can he see in the dark that good?
JCVD... 88% on the Tomatometer. by CENOBITE	Nov 7th, 2008 05:35:13 AM
WOW.
Greenlight for "Universal Soldier 13" yet? by kabong	Nov 7th, 2008 09:53:57 AM
Can't wait.

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