PS: I'm back!!!

BSG has a pricetag of less than half of that per episode. Four million per?? And for VFX like that? Damn.

Unless these the only two trying to right the ship, that is. But since they were around for S2, hard to give em the benefit of the doubt. Whoever thought up the Runnin Siblins and Claire using her power to get on a cheerleading squad in S2--BOOT those MUTHAS for sure.

Kring, otoh, doesn't sound like he knows what the frak he's doing.

After two years of joking about the TPTB reading the TB and not meaning it, I guess they really do read AICN TB.

This show is WAY to far gone to save. I like looking at the train wreck aspect of Heroes now. I hope they go batshit insane with it in a last ditch effort at survival. It won't work but it might be interesting. Time to roll out Lesbo scenes. The Ice Princess, Cheerleader, Cheerleaders ReCockulously hot white trash biological mom, Veronica Mars. Anyone double Xers can get it on, I don't care who. Oh and kill off Peter and Sylar etc.

So if Kring goes, who's the showrunner, then? Who would you and anyone else offer as nominees?

Pennsy congrats to your Phillies.

Have you seen that youtube video of the guy on a light pole during the parade who got nailed right in the melon by a Vodka bottle? Funny Stuff.

Super power Lesbo! Maybe a cross over with Knight Rider. Have pyro mom light that chunk of wood on fire that's the lead and have computer kid scramble Kitts CPU. Show over.

Or maybe a crossover with LipStick Jungle. I'd like to Brooke Shields and the cheervarine get to "know" each other, if you get what I mean. I mean have sex, just in case you didn't understand.

And what happened to her? Did she get blown up or did she survive? Why isn't she on the show anymore? Why have they not even bothered to merely mention her? Another FAIL.

Sure, LOST has a pretty complex overall story... but, each episode generally focuses on a couple characters, making pretty much everybody important to the story (and thus, the audience).

Every time I watch HEROES, I just want to skip the scenes with my least favorite characters -- namely SchmoHinder, Ali Larter -- because I just don't give a damn about them.

I've pretty much stopped watching HEROES, but I'd be willing to give it a shot again if they step away from the convoluted mess they've made of a storyline.

Why? don't give shit about caring for talkbackers or the show. It's all about traffic and moolah.

I think he'd be just as much of an upgrade as Brian K. Vaughn was to Lost when he was picked up to write some episodes last year.

Another Talkbacker above said that Micah's cousin and her power were pretty cool, and I agree. But the writers totally wasted the potential with her character. I wouldn't have minded seeing her return. Or Micah. Imagine a storyline that focuses on Micah, Molly, Monica and Claire teamed up (with Claire leading this group). It could be an homage to Marvel Comics' Runaways or NYX. This is another example of wasted potential with this show.

Ultimates 4, YAY!!

Burn Notice isn't on at the moment, is it? If it is, there should be a talkback. If there isn't, there should be a talkback.

Oh, Kath & Kim just got a full season order. NBC has now officially lost whatever remaining cred they had. Like I said, you gotta laugh.

1. How did a frail waif of a lady like Glida Dent manage to single handily murder several of Gotham's finest thugs and mobsters with a pistol?

2. When she was hospitalized, how did Gilda manage to unhook herself from that life support machine night after night, sneak out of the hospital unseen past her sleeping husband and hospital staff, murder said mobsters, then return unnoticed?

3. Why the hell was the water red when Alberto faked his own death, considering that there was absolutely nobody on the ship in proximity to watch him, and that at night it would have been impossible to see anything in the water anyways. Unless... Alberto knew that the reader was watching him! Oh that diabolical genius.

And this is too little, too late.

I think the show needs to ditch Peter and the cheerleader, and should give Hiro a season hiatus.

Thinking about it more, I suppose the reason for this is that all, and I do mean all, of the new heroes we found early in season 2 were bad - really bad. So instead of them migrating into the spotlight, they were quickly buried alive in the sand.

People really need to start watching this show...

I'm about up to 1x18 by now, and it's okay. It's not great or anything, but it's very watchable. Neither as good as Heroes season 1 (in the early days) was, but definitely not crap. And by some accounts, it gets a lot better as the seasons go on, unlike Heroes and BSG which got shittier and shittier.

Off topic, but I saw a funny comment on slashdot earlier about BSG. "[i]ts like an old dying dog you have, and you just can't bear to put him down"

And when I say 'improbable' I don't mean in the traditional genre sense of "the author cleverly used red herrings and misdirection so that I couldn't see past the smoke and mirrors and arrive at the correct and logical conclusion", but improbable in that with the way the characters were written, and the story had played out before us, it is pretty much impossible that they could have done what they did, much less elude the combined efforts of the World's Greatest Detective, Gotham's finest Cop, and the city's most resourceful D.A. if not for the fact they all were eating a big box of stupid every morning that whole year.

Money quotes: "Someone had to take the fall." This is what a reliable inside source on Heroes tells me of the firings of Loeb and Alexander. "NBC is not happy with the current status of the show, and there had to be a visual and tangible change in the course of action."

Also, the Entertainment Weekly cover story turned out to be basically ambush journalism that did not go over well at NBC AT ALL. And Loeb is one of the writers on 'War', the midseason finale, Kristin says.

Check out this amazing article on him from CNN:

http://tinyurl.com/5jmjyr

Consider DS9 and Star Trek: TNG. Those two shows likely lasted so long in their day because they bought pitches and stories from outside talent.

Really I think there are more people to blame than fucking Kring. Damnit people.

As for these writers, I don't know if it will help the series. Probably will though.

Its no big surprise though, his history didn't bode well for success.

That, and the studio execs would have no idea how to market or handle Ellis' style. Think we'll ever see Doktor Sleepless on the big or small screen? Not unless your average suit starts believing that there's even an audience out there for it.

I watched a couple of minutes out of the next couple of shows but never got back into the whole story line...

It sucked big time.

I mean when are we going to see something good like the first season where we got to learn about the characters?

For me this season just went downhill...

Firing people is never good, but for this show, it just can't get worse...

from scfi wire:

"Kring has reportedly assured NBC and Universal Media Studios, which produces the series, that he intends to focus on simplifying what's been criticized, even by ardent fans, as an overly complex storytelling structure to get back to the show's comic-bookish good-vs.-evil themes and to emphasize character development more than plot twists."

Character development sounds good in theory, let's see if he pulls it off. Although I hope that simplify doesn't mean stupidfy.