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How Do Critics Find Raimi’s LEGEND OF THE SEEKER??

NO wheel of time? by Tthenomad	Nov 1st, 2008 01:12:16 AM
yeah i know it would be years for the first book
Bruce Spence is tha bomb by SirFlibble	Nov 1st, 2008 01:39:10 AM
Always enjoyed all the random crap he's turned up in.. especially Hercules Returns.
tried it once by Natron009	Nov 1st, 2008 02:03:19 AM
I did try to read this series and it really did not do much for me...
Good Series but by Jaybob	Nov 1st, 2008 05:05:44 AM
not the best. Books 1 2 and 6 stand out for me. 6 especially because it reminds me of what Donaldson does to Thomas Covenant. So, I'll watch and hope to be entertained, meanwhile hoping for good adaptions of Jordan's Wheel and Zelazny's Amber. Both are massive series and would be thrilled with a great 2.5 - 3 hour film that covered the beginning of each series that then said, "this is all! go read the Great Hunt/Guns of Avalon! there'll be no more films! it's too big!"
Just saw by Jaybob	Nov 1st, 2008 05:07:49 AM
the Prince of Darkness animation at the top. Cool.
AND Midnight Meat Train by Jaybob	Nov 1st, 2008 05:08:19 AM

Oops... by Jaybob	Nov 1st, 2008 05:09:04 AM
on Comcast On Demand. Wow. Great stuff. How's that for indepth?
Reminds me, somehow... by Jaybob	Nov 1st, 2008 05:10:34 AM
did you see the fan film "Rats" for Sin City? Miller liked it....
Not A Surprise. The Trailers Didn't Look Great by IAmMrMonkey!	Nov 1st, 2008 05:50:11 AM
I've never read the books but the trailers looked pretty bad. At least it was filmed in NZ and not Canada though I suppose. And at least it's not the BBC's Merlin which I think is awful. P.S Jaybob - Midnight Meat Train is awesome. How it got buried I'll never know.
One of the worst books I have ever read. by Charlie_Allnut	Nov 1st, 2008 08:25:41 AM
So this is no surprise.
As long as they... by Kurgan	Nov 1st, 2008 08:32:01 AM
...include the sadomasochistic female bodyguards clad in skintight red leather, I'll be fine. And yes, the books have those. No, you shouldn't rush to read them.
Favorite Book Series by Dotren	Nov 1st, 2008 08:48:50 AM
This is by far my favorite book series. I felt that it took some of the best ingredients in the average fantasy and spun them in completely different ways. I've heard they've changed up a lot of things from the book though and made it back into the more "generic" fantasy. Some of the things they supposedly have taken out were HUGE pieces of the later novels. I'll give the show a chance and view it as it is: a different story for a different media.
Hopefully they stretch out the first book all season long. by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Nov 1st, 2008 09:26:56 AM
That first book was awesome adolescent reading back in the day. There was violence,sexual tension, sadomasochism, creepy pedophile-like scenes, and a big FUCKING DRAGON. A lot of the magic was different than the crappy Dungeons & Dragons crap.
Dominatrixes in red leather called Mord-Sith by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Nov 1st, 2008 09:27:24 AM
Too hot for T.V.
Anthropomancy! by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Nov 1st, 2008 09:27:47 AM
Human sacrifice for magical divination. I wonder if they will show this stuff. After all that helped make Darken Rahl more dark.
A FUCKING RED DRAGON by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Nov 1st, 2008 09:28:11 AM
Is in the book and on the cover art. How can they make that work on television?
Easy by Alientoast	Nov 1st, 2008 09:39:49 AM
Raimi will just dust off one of those Video-Toaster created monsters from the ol' Hercules+Xena shows, tint it red, and voila!!!! Dragons!
From the makers of Xena. . . by Cymbol	Nov 1st, 2008 09:49:52 AM
Didn't really inspire me to think they would pull these books off. Also, the 5pm timeslot has me worried the violence/torture/rape/ and sado-masichism will be largely underplayed taking away any tension from the series. Unfortunately, the book starts out slow and doesn't truly pick up till the middle for me. Not sure if they can wait for viewers to start getting invested till half-way through the season. My wife and I are fans of the book - so we'll watch it. I hope they find their pace later if the pilot doesn't capture it.
HAHAHAHA by fat lenny	Nov 1st, 2008 09:55:53 AM
Let's see... the books were amateurish, generic, poorly written tripe. Big surprise that the show is the same. There are SO MANY other series more worthy of a good television treatment. I'll never finish reading that crap and I'll never watch this load of shit on television. What will I do? Patiently await HBO's treatment of the vastly superior George RR Martin books.
This isn't another Harry Potter movie is it? by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Nov 1st, 2008 10:16:14 AM

George R.R. Martin, maybe... by BiggusDickus	Nov 1st, 2008 10:49:59 AM
...for this sort of sprawling fantasy thing, but Terry Goodkind? Flimsy and superficial.
Is the person from Variety an idiot? by raw_bean	Nov 1st, 2008 11:31:57 AM
This really made me laugh: "...slow-motion action sequences that looked way-cool in "300" and this time around merely feel like a cheap way of ensuring nobody gets clipped by an errant sword..." Does this person not realise that slow motion sequences are actually acted at full speed; do they in fact think that slow motion is done by actors moving reaaallllyyyy ssslllllooooowwwwllllyyyyy and tttttaaaaaalllllkkkkkkiiiinnnn gggg lllliiiikkkkkeeeee ttthhhhiiiiissssss.....
I miss Xena... by Mockingbird Girl	Nov 1st, 2008 11:49:23 AM
... even if the first season was the only really good one.
Half-speed? by Mal Carne	Nov 1st, 2008 11:57:35 AM
raw_bean, you've never done stage combat, have you? Most of the time you rehearse and work stage combat at half speed to be safe...
raw_bean is right... by TELF	Nov 1st, 2008 12:47:57 PM
Bad Meat is wrong.
I'm looking forward to it... by allykatD	Nov 1st, 2008 12:51:07 PM
The first book WFR was fabulous. Loved the torture porn with the Mord-Sith. The next three books were very good too, but after that they weren't so great. I think the series looks great. I downloaded and watched the first 30 minutes from iTunes and I loved it.
Hopefully the critics are wrong. by Dreamwriter	Nov 1st, 2008 01:20:49 PM
Did they watch the first two hours or just the first hour? Anyways, I really liked the first three books, and I thought the series had potential from seeing the previews. Not sure about the major change from the book, the reason Kahalan is escaping the Midlands, (they showed that in like the first 10 minutes on last week's preview), but I'm willing to give it a shot.
To those that said the series went downhill after the first book by Dotren	Nov 1st, 2008 03:29:26 PM
Stone of Tears (book 2) gets better on each reading imo and Faith of the Fallen (book 6) is one of the best of the series. Of the last three: Chainfire was ok, Phantom was a lot better, and Confessor was really really good.. great way to finish the series.
More Crap by LeftFoot	Nov 1st, 2008 03:29:39 PM
Hercules and Xena were unwatchable shit. This will be more of the same New Zealand factory TV product crap. That country can make some amazing films and TV. This will not be the good stuff.
Bridget Regan is hot by UMAGA	Nov 1st, 2008 03:56:28 PM
Here's proof: http://www.g4tv.com/attackofth eshow/moviesandtv/65535/Bridge t-Regan-Interview.html
Disappointed by Merpio	Nov 1st, 2008 06:59:09 PM
I have read and loved the whole series.I agree that the Song of Fire and Ice is better and cannot wait for the HBO series. Given all that I still had high hopes for this series. Well after watching the first 2 hours I have decided never to watch it again and tell all the other fans I meet not to watch it. They changed way too much from the books and it just doesn't work. This makes me very sad. I hope the adaptations of WoT and Song of Fire and Ice are better.
What I've seen...it's a colossal fumbling thud... by Shub-Wankalot	Nov 1st, 2008 08:57:10 PM
It has no spark, no grab, no heart. It's just a lifeless carcass being kicked around to simulate fun and excitement. More miss than hit. Next...
"Tweens save the world by Dreamwriter	Nov 1st, 2008 09:07:14 PM

its not that bad... by crazybubba	Nov 1st, 2008 09:09:50 PM
just finished the first hour. Its not great, but okay for a tv show. I've seen worse. the dialogue is corny, the characters and the plot are cliche and predictable, but the action and special effects are okay. The sword of truth--o brother, but i'll keep watching it for now.
"Tweens save the world"?? by Dreamwriter	Nov 1st, 2008 09:12:53 PM
(stupid enter key). Um, characters aren't 'tweens', I forget their age but they are at least 18. Anyways, I just saw the first hour - here they are showing the main show on Sundays and repeating the previous one on Saturdays, so they only showed the first hour today. Yeah, some changes, but it's obvious they are trying to get the story moving as quickly as possible. The whole first hour seemed to be about giving as much info to the viewers as possible while still trying to make it all seem urgent. I'd bet the second hour is the same way. So you shouldn't really decide on the show until next week, where the show truly starts. I am happy to finally see a fantasy series on TV, particularly one telling a continuous story, and not just totally episodic like Xena and Hercules.
It's ok so far, not great, but watchable by br1947	Nov 1st, 2008 10:10:14 PM
Glad to see a fantasy show on tv that at least attempts to take the story seriously, isn't over the top retarded like Xena or Hercules. I'll give it a shot.
Bruce Spence by gotilk	Nov 1st, 2008 10:15:57 PM
Great to see him working. He's a favorite.
The witch chick is pretty hot!! by Ka Dargo	Nov 2nd, 2008 12:34:51 AM
Love the dark hair blue eyes combo!! And the fantasy/sci-fi elements are cool!!
ok... by Dwarves	Nov 2nd, 2008 01:31:56 AM
I enjoyed the books. The first 2 hours were the first 2 books minus a ton of information. Based on the editing they did I have no clue how they're going to carry on with the story. Books were far better as usual. the TV show wasn't bad...but it needs to pickup the pace.
Meh by cineninja	Nov 2nd, 2008 02:34:17 AM
Thats all this gets. I watched it and was bored to tears.
So who's been watching Merlin? by Amy Chasing	Nov 2nd, 2008 04:18:07 AM
It's not brilliant, but it's got some lovely costumes, sets and music. That and it's a decent kids escapist fantasy show. Would be great if they get a bit more serious, but seems the only fantasy show to do that lately is Lord Of The Rings and everyone else seems to want to keep their fantasy for kids.
Wizard's First Stool (as in poop) most miserable fantasy series by SlackAttack	Nov 2nd, 2008 04:34:37 AM
I want the handful of days back from when I tried to read the first Goodkind book. A Fire and Ice series on HBO would be a thing of beauty.
Help me out hear, fellas by PTSDPete	Nov 2nd, 2008 06:25:56 AM
I heard one time that this ' Sword of Truth ' thing was rip-off of Robert Jordan's ' Wheel of Time '. Don't remember.
PTSDPete, No,it's not a rip-off, vastly different stories. by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Nov 2nd, 2008 09:26:41 AM

Legend of the Seeker sucked. That was bad acting. by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Nov 2nd, 2008 09:27:24 AM

a BEHEADING? by Gungan Slayer	Nov 2nd, 2008 09:35:00 AM
oh god, no, please no
by ChezKing	Nov 2nd, 2008 02:42:14 PM
"you’ll be better entertained staring at a postcard." AHAHAHAHA!! That's hilarious.
"Conan the Libertarian" by ebonic_plague	Nov 2nd, 2008 04:25:18 PM
http://tinyurl.com/5wkl9u
George R R Martin... by Bootskin	Nov 2nd, 2008 05:40:42 PM
...pisses all over this shitty, shitty series. The "Mord Sith" can suck my cock.
I want The Archer, Fugitive From The Empire by Manos	Nov 2nd, 2008 08:30:12 PM
Loved that Heartbow
Well I'm glad I watched the first two hours by Silverhour	Nov 2nd, 2008 09:09:27 PM
now I know there's nothing worth staying home for on Saturdays. I have enjoyed the books, and was really excited to hear about the visual adaptation, but then the more I started to see/hear/read about it, the less I wanted to. First off the cast is shit, then most of the major plot points are dumped in favour of quick explinations and fast swordwork, and then it sets up for week-to-week adventures, instead of doing a broad story arc. This would have worked so much better as a 6 hour miniseries.
^Agreed..kinda by PornKing	Nov 2nd, 2008 10:55:08 PM
I don't think the cast is shit, but they certainly ejected almost all of the main plot points and subtlety of the books. The SFX are also pure crap as well.
A George R. R. Martin TV series would be X-Rated... by Leafar the Lost	Nov 3rd, 2008 10:16:04 AM
...if it followed the books exactly. It have to have graphic amounts of hardcore sex and violence. It would have to be on HBO or Showtime. A basic cable TV show would have to be so cleaned up that it would suck, just like this "Legend of the Seeker" shit.
Leafar the Lost by Kurgan	Nov 3rd, 2008 12:29:32 PM
HBO has already used its option on ASOIAF. It remains to be seen if they actually go on with the series, but yeah, if it's going to air, it's going to be on HBO.
THE WAR OF POWERS!!! by spud mcspud	Nov 3rd, 2008 12:36:00 PM
If you're going to make an adolescent sexually-charged fantasy epic for TV, you need to make THE WAR OF POWERS and get your writers onto WAR OF POWERS II: ISTU AWAKENED. Fantastic stuff, and which can probably only have been made in the last few years on a TV budget - floating sky cities, war eagles, ghosts ("Shades" in this) walking around with regular people... These two books are awesome. Make them instead of this crap, please.
Yo Bootskin by Dwarves	Nov 3rd, 2008 06:44:31 PM
I agree...George R R Martin is the shit and his series is soooooo much better. But he will never finish it before he dies of a heart attack.
spud mcspud... by BiggusDickus	Nov 3rd, 2008 11:34:43 PM
I think I remember those books! Aliens with two cocks, wasn't it?

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