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And so... by duct tape wallet	Oct 29th, 2008 07:50:02 AM
Good Morning!
Must have that LOCAL TPB! by Karl Childers	Oct 29th, 2008 07:54:38 AM

The heads of DC and Marvel will look up and shout save us. by Err	Oct 29th, 2008 08:01:42 AM
And Alan Moore will whisper no.
I've given up on Final Crisis by superfleish76	Oct 29th, 2008 08:02:37 AM
I found that I can't remember what happened from issue to issue. Maybe I'll try to read them all at once when it's over.
The Thing as a Horror Comic by Err	Oct 29th, 2008 08:02:43 AM
Is it true that Stan Lee made The Thing the way he was so that FF could work as both a superhero comic and a horror/monster book?
Possibly, Err... by rev_skarekroe	Oct 29th, 2008 08:10:34 AM
...but I'd say more of a sci-fi/monster book, which was Marvel's bread & butter pre-FF. Look at the cover to FF #1 - the central image isn't the heroes - it's the giant monster coming out of the street. I could be wrong of course. Any Marvel historians out there know more?
Fucking Fire Motherfucking Didio by Laserhead	Oct 29th, 2008 08:18:50 AM
Godammit. Is that shit about him nailing Jones' wife true? How the fuck can Dan Didio steal your wife? The guy looks like a mole with lupus, the witless fucking crayfish.
Flash legless? Doonesbury did it better. by V'Shael	Oct 29th, 2008 08:22:57 AM
And YEARS ago. Honest to god, Doonesbury. A frakin left-leaning political cartoon.
Whatever Didio is stealing by steverodgers	Oct 29th, 2008 08:30:35 AM
It's not Marvel's market share...
Local by steverodgers	Oct 29th, 2008 08:38:21 AM
The story is good, but the art by Ryan Kelly is just amazing. If you have ever lived in any of the cities he represents even more so. Give this book a shot, it's a master class in sequential story-telling by Kelly.
Agreed: Fire Didio by Psynapse	Oct 29th, 2008 08:55:50 AM
Given that the last 3 BIG DC events (Final Crisis, Cunt...er, Countdown, & Infinite Crisis) have all been story and/or production clusterfucks of the highest magnitude. The guy is running DC like a shady used car lot at this point.
V'Shael by Joenathan	Oct 29th, 2008 09:04:16 AM
Did you really just type frakin'? Stop that.
Final Crisis by Joenathan	Oct 29th, 2008 09:10:14 AM
Speaking as a non regular DC reader without a whole lot invested in the DC universe, I'm enjoying Final Crisis. I think its fun. However, I can definitely see where it would frustrate people, especially with all the editorial flubs factored in AND this is choppy Morrison in full effect. He does this every once in awhile, where his ideas get too out of control for his ability as a comic book writer to keep up with and tranlate into a cohesive story, but still... Green Arrow having the Justifier helmet forced on his head as he screams defiance to the last? Awesome.
Starman, Joker and the Local by Joenathan	Oct 29th, 2008 09:15:42 AM
I've always meant to pick this up. I dismissed it as the retarded child of zero hour too, but I've always meant to pick it up. Maybe I will. Also, Joker sounds really interesting. I'm kind of glad Local is over. I enjoyed it, I guess, but it was starting to annoy me. It was actually kind of nice to see Megan grow up a little, but still, she bugged me. Sometimes the stories were a little too hipper than thou, you know? The art was pretty damn good though.
Maybe Morrison just needs another way... by rev_skarekroe	Oct 29th, 2008 09:16:25 AM
...to get all his nutty ideas out on his own terms. Invisibles 2008 or something - another series where total madness is the point.
The True Big Even In Comics: Stephen Colbert! by Err	Oct 29th, 2008 09:18:31 AM
That has and continues to be the truly big even in comics.
halloween and no Hack N Slash by palewook	Oct 29th, 2008 09:26:15 AM
damn you silly cease and desist letters.
WHO IS THE IRON PATRIOT? by Err	Oct 29th, 2008 09:33:46 AM
Any guesses outside of Stark or Rogers?
BRICK sucked by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Oct 29th, 2008 09:36:55 AM
What was the point of even casting it with kids other than to make it completely unbelievable. Kids are dumbasses and they sure as hell will never listen to jazz at parties.
Joen: Starman/Local by steverodgers	Oct 29th, 2008 09:51:20 AM
Starman it is really, really good. It does a good job of creating people and just not costumes, which i know is one of your issues with DC. Also you get Tony Harris on a lot of the issues which is always nice. On Local I agree the story was starting to get a little long for me as well - the art kept me in.
Starman is my favorite DC comic ever by Animation	Oct 29th, 2008 10:01:44 AM
I loved the Starman stuff. I read it for the first time myself about a year ago (I bought all the trades from my local comic book shop). It is really enjoyable. It was so enjoyable that I didn't even think of it as a deconstruction of anything, because usually when you read a deconstruction, you get the feeling that the author hates the source he is analyzing. Not so with Starman. Starman treats all the golden age stuff with respect, makes it palatable for the modern setting, and then tells a new story of a very different Starman who ultimately comes to respect the past he at first despises. Starman RULES.
Starman by steverodgers	Oct 29th, 2008 10:04:56 AM
Totally rules. This guy does a great guy of summing up the series, and describing it's merits as a love letter to the golden age of comics. First of 5 articles: http://tinyurl.com/5oql98
STONES THROW?! by most excellent ninja	Oct 29th, 2008 10:11:36 AM
You read Final Crisis but not Green Lantern? The best book out?
Starman by Psynapse	Oct 29th, 2008 10:26:48 AM
Was indeed quite awesome.
Most Excellent Ninja by Err	Oct 29th, 2008 10:29:55 AM
Hate to say this but anybody can read the good stuff. It takes a real man/woman/it/talkbacker to read the shitty.
Anyone here not read Starman? by ian216a	Oct 29th, 2008 10:50:56 AM
I mean seriously - I thought everyone knew how good that was, especially for a DC or Marvel mainstream book at the time. Everything else sucked. Then came Bendis, Johns, Brubaker and Rucka and made it alright for all of us older fans to not just read B&W indies and Verigo books anymore. Thanks for that Mr Robinson - now stop being shit on Superman!
G. Willow Wilson and CAIRO are Awesome by Prof_Ender	Oct 29th, 2008 10:52:19 AM
One thing that always strikes me though is that CAIRO has a Muslim lead character. Which in comics is about as rare as moose feathers. Wilson herself is a Muslim, yet most comic book reviewers and interviewers seem to glaze over or ignore this fact. As if being a white female who converted to Islam under her own choice is something that could never possibly happen.
I was gonna ask... by The_joker	Oct 29th, 2008 10:57:45 AM
If anyone understood Final Crisis? But I gather not so much. I just find it to be very confusing and hard to understand. It seems like each issue could be completely seperate from the next and I'm lost. What is going on with Darkseid? He's being reincarnated? Although as convoluted as it is, I did enjoy FC #4 more than SI #7.
Flash Thompson was a drooling vegetable... by Logo Lou	Oct 29th, 2008 11:20:04 AM
...last Spider-Man comic I read. Now they rewind time and he's legless. Man, Marvel must REALLY hate him.
Handicaps in comics... by MCVamp	Oct 29th, 2008 11:28:47 AM
Not to be insensitive here, but why are there still people in the Marvel and DC Universes whose arms and legs don't work? Someone like Will Magnus or Tony Stark could whip up functional, affordable, mass-marketable exoskeletons or bionic replacements for public consumption in the space of an afternoon. Oracle has access to Bruce Wayne's money, the Justice League, and every tech corporation in the DC Universe and she's still stuck in the chair! Yet Cyborg's been rebuilt, what, 20 times? Not a big deal, just saying.
Forget Handicaps... by Joenathan	Oct 29th, 2008 11:50:14 AM
What about Cancer? Reed Richards? Hank McCoy? Fucking jerks. "Oh, did you create a stable passage into the negative zone? Wow, how useful. Hey, guess how many kids died of AIDS today, Mr. FANTASTIC!"
Final Crisis explanation by Joenathan	Oct 29th, 2008 11:54:51 AM
At its core, its very simple, its just Morrison loves to dress shit up with crazy hats and flowers and feathers and bright sparkly lights. As I understand it... The New Gods have been slowly reincarnating, Darkseid gathering his strehgth to be reborn. Mr. Miracle knew but was distracted by the seven soldiers and narrowly escaped death and now its too late. Darkseid has taken the planet and broadcast the anit-life equation, enslaving all. The Green Lanterns, in an attempt to contain the Anti-Life outbreak has quarantined the planet, while Earth's massive superhero population fights a hopeless battle against the evil thought police and agents of destructive hateful conformity who toil under Darkseid's rule. At this point, as more and more heroes fall, it looks like Evil has finally won and that all hope is lost. How's that?
Also by Joenathan	Oct 29th, 2008 12:08:08 PM
Brick wasn't supposed to be realistic, genius, it was a fantasy noir world. Way to catch on...
Is Unknown Soldier connected to Ennis's version? by Laserhead	Oct 29th, 2008 12:10:58 PM
That was a pretty cool limited series, as I remember it, with the soldier basically acting as a tour of American black-ops foreign policy from WWII onward.
I gave up on Hulk and Invasion... by Red43jes	Oct 29th, 2008 12:13:35 PM
Both were a bore. I expected so much more out of Secret Invasion. The pace is just not to my liking. As far as Hulk, I stuck it out up to this issue. The first issue wasn't bad, but it just kept going downhill for me. I'm about to give up on The Man Without a Name, too. So far, Star Wars Legacy is the only title I get these days that really never disappoints.
Joenathan by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Oct 29th, 2008 12:49:03 PM
Fantasy doesn't belong in a noir world. Hardboiled dialogue is meant to spoken by tough guys, not goofy high school kids, god damn moron.
"..but I prefer it to the... by nofate	Oct 29th, 2008 12:58:06 PM
mess that FINAL CRISIS has become." Praise from Caesar? Could it be? I'm back bitches!!
Comics for Halloween by Squashua	Oct 29th, 2008 01:11:04 PM
I was too tired to climb up on the soapbox this year.
Oh, I see... by Joenathan	Oct 29th, 2008 01:14:25 PM
you're stupid. Never mind
Not sure why we're discussing Film noir here by WarpedElements	Oct 29th, 2008 02:58:14 PM
But i'm also too lazy to scroll up. I never bought Humphrey Bogart as all that imposing/tough. I liked Brick though, more for it's atmosphere and storytelling more than it's 'believability". S'how I usually rate Noir, since it's more of a feeling, a style, than it is a specific stereotype/hero personification/porno fetish.
Joenathan....The Marvel Universe DID Cure Cancer by thelordofhell	Oct 29th, 2008 03:01:01 PM
In "The Death Of Captain Marvel" graphic novel they found a cure for cancer, but they couldn't cure Captain Marvel of it because of his Nega-Bands. And YET, the selfish bastards of the Marvel Universe didn't take the cancer cure back to Earth to help everyone here!! What a buncha pricks!!
FC/SI by Homer Sexual	Oct 29th, 2008 03:09:53 PM
As I mentioned last week, for the first time ever I enjoyed an issue of Final Crisis (#4) more than an issue of Secret Invasion (#7). But only because the pieces of FC seemed to become a bit more comprehensible this issue, while SI seemed to be more of the same. Neither story is bad, per se. But both suffer from over-hype. I have discussed at length my issues with the minor league skrulls in SI, and until this issue FC was, indeed, a bunch of jibber jabber. FC seems to be coming together, but maybe it's wishful thinking. There are just too many tie-ins and "Big Changes" that really aren't, so these events are just let down after let down. I know I sound like a codger, but I haven't really enjoyed an "event" since Crisis on Infinite Earths. Well, I did love Seven Soldiers, but that wasn't even really hyped as an event. Starman sounds terrific, I will definitely check it out based on what I've read here.
you guys didn't really review FC #4 by nerfherder111	Oct 29th, 2008 04:26:12 PM
...and instead focused on everything around the title. Yes, DC/Didio/whoever did fuck up with the whole master planning of FC's relationship to the rest of the DCU. But long after the series is said and done i'll bet it's going to be appreciated much more as a single story unto itself. Morrisson himself publicly expressed his frustration over the fact that the so-called "countdown to final crisis" and starlin's "death of the new gods" had major plot points that directly conflicted with morrisson's vision for FC (i.e. he wanted orion's death to kinda sorta not happen twice). and yes, DC's attempt to tie everything into this title, much like they try with batman RIP, is just an obvious ploy to get into your wallet. sucks dick, but that's business. With all that bullshit in mind, i expected you @$$holes to at least give a respected writer like grant morrison some respect in realizing that he does not always have control over such matters and maybe try and dig a bit deeper into the actual story as it stands by itself. because although it's weird and definitely not very accessible, it's actually shaping up to be pretty swell. the truth is, ambush bug was right with his thought that morrison seems to not care if you don't know the characters. and while that's the book's main problem, having a little prior knowledge of kirby's fourth world and all its characters really makes this book stand out as a fucking awesome tribute to some of the greatest ideas ever idead in comics. mokarri growing evil minions? the bickering over who darkseid's going to favor? pure kirby-gasms. if you're looking for cohesion, re-read the issues before you get on to the next one and remember that morrison is almost always much better when his stories are read in their completed form. basically, DC's shenanigans aside, i think FC is going to stand by itself as a very satisfying read once it done. bug, morrison definitely has a plan, but no, i dont think he ever tells anyone what that plan is. and while that kills me a bit as a fan of the DCU, it's ok with me as long as i get a good grant morrison story out of it. and new gods rule.
how do you make paragraph breaks? by nerfherder111	Oct 29th, 2008 04:27:46 PM
and yeah i know i said give a respected writer some respect.
Dam... by Joenathan	Oct 29th, 2008 04:56:31 PM
I was totally going to make fun of you for that...
Bug... by ledbetter51	Oct 29th, 2008 05:19:05 PM
"One of the weaker moments of THE DARK KNIGHT film was the relationship between these two villains." --Dude, you totally lost me there. Two Face wouldn't have worked at all in that movie without his relationship to the Joker, and the one scene they had together was fucking awesome.
Headache Guy... by ledbetter51	Oct 29th, 2008 05:25:30 PM
There was no fantasy in the noir world, the noir world WAS the fantasy. Within that setting everything was 100% straight. I think you're looking for too much realism here. Even in noir movies with all-adult casts, it's still sort of a fantasy setting. In the real world, a "tough guy" speaking in "hardboiled dialogue" would get shot in the face by the first crimelord he came across.
Nerf... by BangoSkank	Oct 29th, 2008 05:51:50 PM
Type this where the normal space would be..... < p > But without the spaces.
Didn't explain that very well.... by BangoSkank	Oct 29th, 2008 05:54:09 PM
Place < p > between paragraphs, but without the spaces between the .
Damn, the above should read..... by BangoSkank	Oct 29th, 2008 05:55:50 PM
* between the < p >.
And I guess you could .... by BangoSkank	Oct 29th, 2008 05:59:00 PM
consider Noir as a type of fantasy.... Generally, I think you can either except that, and dig it, or it leaves you cold.
I asked this last week.... by BangoSkank	Oct 29th, 2008 06:02:33 PM
But, is ANYONE reading the X-Men Legacy/Wolverine Origin crossover? Is there anything redeeming about it? Also, I've been suggested Starman by several people in the past, but haven't read it because its DC, and I'm unfamiliar with the universe. Would I still enjoy it as a standalone?
Holy Crip! Flash a Crapple? by catlettuce4	Oct 29th, 2008 06:19:27 PM
Poor Flash. How many characters got fucked up in both the Vietnam AND Iraq war?
Bango: Starman by steverodgers	Oct 29th, 2008 07:10:43 PM
You will be just fine without any big knowledge of DC. It's more atmospheric then full of continuity detail. It's a father/son tale - and it terrific.
Joker was sold out by guerillakarma	Oct 29th, 2008 07:54:15 PM
at my comic shop today, the clerk only ordered five......FIVE!
I pray for the end of Final Mid-Life Crisis... by Leafar the Lost	Oct 29th, 2008 08:56:47 PM
...because DC will be forced to move on to something else. Yes, Crisis on Infinite Earths changed the DC Universe and the comic book industry. Yes, Idenity Crisis was a very good series and I loved every issue, until the very end when we found out the secret super villian was just a psycho ex wife. Then Infinite Crisis, which was not so good. Then, the Final Crisis, which so far has been almost impossible to follow unless you buy like 20 other comics. This has been more like the Final Fuck with an ex-girlfriend that was just good for one thing, and now even that isn't good anymore. Its time to move on, dude. Its over...
there's only 3 more issues, Leafar by Duke of Hurl	Oct 29th, 2008 08:58:13 PM

what we should really be talking about by Duke of Hurl	Oct 29th, 2008 08:58:50 PM
is how dan DiDio stole J.G. Jones' wife...
Grant Morisson by cornholiosbungholio	Oct 29th, 2008 11:42:45 PM
Am I the only guy who thinks that Grant Morisson's stories are less than steller? Sure, Arkham Asylum was great, but the art was more striking than the story, which I felt failed to capture the Batman. I never did enjoy any of this JLA stories. I haven't picked up Final Crisis yet but I am not all that keen. His stories have always been too convoluted. I dread to pick up Batman RIP with it releases on tpb.
Local by Series7	Oct 30th, 2008 12:09:51 AM
One of the issues took place in the town I live now.. They made a big deal about it here. Every comic store here has a bunch of copies of the hard back. I've been meaning to pick it up.
1985 by Series7	Oct 30th, 2008 01:37:11 AM
Anyone else feel like the ending was a little lame?
FC=Futile Clusterfuck by Slaphappy Slim	Oct 30th, 2008 02:24:30 AM
But, any time Morrison's ad hoc, sloppy storytelling is criticized, plenty of friendly folks will inform you that you're just too stupid or lazy to "get it". Puke...... "Kirby-gasms", as someone said, do not alone make for a successful event.
Morrison, corn by Laserhead	Oct 30th, 2008 05:48:42 AM
Actually, I think Arkham Asylum is one of his weakest efforts. Animal Man, Doom Patrol, JLA, New X-Men, The Filth. Great stories throughout. And Final Crisis doesn't yet seem very different from a JLA storyline called 'Rock of Ages.' Like Alan Moore, Morrison writes great dialogue and characterizations that are often overlooked because his concepts are so novel, but he and Moore kind of developed the coolspeak wit people like Ellis, Millar, and Bendis milk dry. And books like The Authority stand directly on the shoulders of Morrison's JLA.
Morrison is Just Like Any Other Good Writer by optimous_douche	Oct 30th, 2008 05:49:08 AM
In a 20 plus year comic career, the guy has a damn good batting average. Like anny creator he will have highs and lows. Doom Patrol - Loved It! X-Men - Loved It! All Star Superman - Loved it so much I have paper cuts on my junk still! Final Crisis - Not loving, but also not hating it. Here's how to enjoy FC. Forget everything that built up to it. I know that it is hard to do, but try. I was serious in my e-mail chain. Were this called anything but a "Crisis", we wouldn't be having these dabates. As comic fans we have certain expectations. Crisis holds a certain conotation for all of us as a universe shattering event. This has not been that as I think we can all agree. Call it "Enter the Fifth World" or "Darkseid's Doomsday Algebra" to placate the Kirbyphiles, but not Crisis.
Morrison and Superheroes: by Psynapse	Oct 30th, 2008 07:26:50 AM
Brilliant ideas, sometimes less than cohesive execution. I agree with Optimus, DC would have done better to call this series anything but 'Final Crisis'.
SteveRodgers... by BangoSkank	Oct 30th, 2008 07:35:39 AM
Thanks for the heads-up. Friends have been telling me to read it for years, but I've always skipped it because it's DC. I'm more than willing to read something that isn't heavily tied into continuity, though....
Starman=Best of Past 25 Years? by gooseud	Oct 30th, 2008 08:24:57 AM
Personally I think Starman may very well be the best book I've read in my lifetime. My favorite moment ever occured in that book, the moment when Jack is visiting David (or vice versa) and they are having the adventure on the pirate ship. I won't spoil anything, but the big, and totally surprising, reveal on the last page of that issue (those who have read the series know exactly who I'm talking about) is the one time in my life, from reading a comic, I've ever.......gotten a little bit of dust in my eye, causing it to water just a tad. Especially considering the dreck that was being published around that series at the time, just a momumentally awesome series
Morrison by Joenathan	Oct 30th, 2008 09:29:25 AM
Is totally NOT overrated and if you don't "get" his stories then, generally, it is because you are too lazy or slow. If you don't like them, thats fine, I think you have bad taste, but you can not like them if you want, BUT you can't say that the guy ISN'T one of the better comic writers out there now or ever. Also, how, when listing Morrison's triumphs, can the Invisibles NOT be mentioned? Fucking best series ever. as for JLA, forget Rock of Ages (although Green Arrow and the Atom killing Darkseid was fantastic), what about Connor/Green Arrow trapped in the Watchtower versus the Key? Thats a story worth hunting down, if you haven't read it. The Key's robots destroy Connor's bow and quiver and he's forced to use Ollie's old trick arrows from the museum: "Why can't you have ONE pointed arrow, Dad? Just one pointed arrow! Is that too much to ask?"
The word "Crisis" sells more books. by rev_skarekroe	Oct 30th, 2008 10:05:11 AM
Look for a new "Crisis" every year until people stop buying 'em.
Invisibles was Morrison's best, for sure. by rev_skarekroe	Oct 30th, 2008 10:06:05 AM
A time capsule into the underground obsessions of the '90s. Fantastic.
Morrison by Slaphappy Slim	Oct 30th, 2008 12:32:45 PM
Not overrated at all. His JLA run is one of my all time favorites, particularly the Connor GA/Key story. But like any creative sort, I think he sometimes overindulges himself and loses sight of the bigger picture. His current Batman R.I.P. could have been much sharper in terms of its narrative perspective, for example.
Question for Joenathan.... by Psynapse	Oct 30th, 2008 02:03:30 PM
Do you agree with Morrison's assertion that The Invisibles is in fact an incantation designed to open your psyche to the supercontext?
Psynapse by XAOS	Oct 30th, 2008 03:59:02 PM
Thanks for the succinct articulation of why I find Morrison insufferable.
Are you asking by Joenathan	Oct 30th, 2008 04:18:52 PM
I've read his talk about the encounter on the mountain and the way the fiction intruded upon his own reality and with things like that, I always say: sure. My own experiences haven't been the same, but I'm willing to allow his belief and be open to my own. Mostly, though, for me... any comic that liberally features cunnilingus is a-okay in my book. Also, I drew my own spell glyph a while back and it is unfolding as we speak. Neo-shamanism? A self fulling prophecy? Are they one and the same? Does it matter?
Best comic book story ever, Spider-Man v... by Leafar the Lost	Oct 31st, 2008 12:25:51 PM
...Juggernant. It was just two issues long, but it was such a kick ass fight. Of course, there was nothing Spider-Man could do to hurt Juggernant; he even drove a truck filled with gasoline into him and it exploded. Finally, Spider-Man beat him by just covering up the eye holes in his helmet, and he stepped into wet concrete. I loved it because it was solid story telling, kick ass fighting, and it surprised me at the end. I wasn't expecting it to end that way. It wasn't predictable storytelling, which is 99% of the crap out there...
Err... by R L S	Oct 31st, 2008 09:16:45 PM
Who's Juggernant?
YAY! by Joenathan	Nov 3rd, 2008 10:58:01 AM
Loeb was canned from Heroes! Next stop: Ultimates!
Rage of the Red Lanterns by Psynapse	Nov 3rd, 2008 11:56:11 AM
While being most excellent, has fuck all to do with Final Crisis. Who does DC think they're kidding at this point? PS-I second the 'Yay!'.
DC has no idea what each other are doing, by Joenathan	Nov 3rd, 2008 01:21:24 PM
at any given moment. They're just publishing shit left and right and opening their e-mails later and going: "ohhh, were you going to use those characters? Sorry, dude, my bad..." I was shocked to see Heroes not only survive its first six episodes but actually dominate its time slot. From the start its been nothing more than bad 90s X-men writing, at best. I hope it gets canceled after this season to mke room for a show that deals with a similiar idea done by better writers and run by a guy who doesn't suck ass because he's never read a comic before inhis life and yet thinks he can do a show about superheroes.
Runaways/Ultimates by steverodgers	Nov 3rd, 2008 02:44:35 PM
speaking of firing... I really can't describe my depression at the complete drop in quality of these titles. From issue by issue awesomeness to total wild crap. I don't really know how comics work, but i would think someone would read the scripts, see the art, and just say ,"you know what - this shit is awful" and kill it until they could land some people who could at least try to keep up the level of quality. So depressing... Maybe Quesada is sleeping with Loebs and Moores wives...
Quesada IS fixing the Ultimates... by Joenathan	Nov 3rd, 2008 03:35:54 PM
He's bringing back Millar... Huzzah!
re: ultimates by steverodgers	Nov 3rd, 2008 03:46:42 PM
That is awesome! Eph loebs wife! Do they have an artist?
Beats me... by Joenathan	Nov 3rd, 2008 04:30:30 PM
I just read that Millar was heading back to the Ultimate Universe post Ultimatum and I thought that was good, because Millar is one of the best comic scribes working right now.
Starman was near perfection by DannyOcean01	Nov 4th, 2008 10:48:00 AM
But Tony Harris' departure from the book was a huge loss. His collaboration with Robinson was masterful. Opal City. Turk County. The mysterious prophecies (that I actually wanted to deduce). The Shade. The O'Dare family. The costume and adapted rod. The death that kicked it all off. I don't think I've been so immersed in a comic (yes, even more so than Preacher, Sandman Mystery Theater, 100 Bullets, Fables or Y: The Last Man) and I doubt I ever will again.
Dudes, give Final Crisis a chance. by SpacePhil	Nov 4th, 2008 11:57:06 PM
I personally really like where the story's going. And regardless of whether or not it deserves the "Crisis" moniker, I suspect we're seeing one of the DCU's great stories in the making, like "Kingdom Come." Isn't that enough for right now?

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