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by odo19
Oct 9th, 2008
01:32:00 AM
I love Frank
by odo19
Oct 9th, 2008
01:34:16 AM
Outside of The Majestic I love every movie he's made. This movie sounds woefully fucking generic though. Here's hoping I'm dead wrong about that. Also Kurt Wimmer?
Always the wife and daughter murdered...
by Fa Fa Fooey
Oct 9th, 2008
02:05:36 AM
For you writers out there, please stay away from "wife and daughter murdered." That and "down and out cop." Oy.
Wife and Daughter Murdered
by deanbarry
Oct 9th, 2008
02:13:32 AM
Usually by the husband/father. sad fact. Hey, he could track himself down and mete out some bloody violent justice on himself. Preferrably while watching Girls Gone Wild #17
"In a world ruled by crime... this time, they killed the wrong d
by Galactic
Oct 9th, 2008
02:17:38 AM
"Jamie Foxx in: Law Abiding Dog Lover..."
"Whom's" is not a word
by ShiftyEyedDog2
Oct 9th, 2008
02:44:37 AM


....just so ya know...

Darabont is great...BUUUUUUT
by BadMrWonka
Oct 9th, 2008
03:05:37 AM
no free passes....

Jamie Foxx can fuck up anything...

Revengeploitation has far more derivations
by JackRabbitSlim
Oct 9th, 2008
03:15:59 AM
than "wife and daughter killed" cliche. Last year alone we had "First Son then wife get killed" in Death Sentence and the more uncommon "male fiance gets killed" in The Brave One - though that was popularized in the Kill Bill series. Funny how the girl-as-vengeance subgenre has slipped away from the "she gets raped and boyfriend killed so shes really mad" theme that was prevalent through the 1970s and 80s.
"well known cinematic badass"
by Vern
Oct 9th, 2008
03:19:09 AM
I can only assume Harry is referring to ONE MAN'S JUSTICE starring Brian Bosworth, or if you prefer the original title (which you definitely will), ONE TOUGH BASTARD. It's not as good as STONE COLD but it's a pretty entertaining Bozploitation picture. Let me just say that MC Hammer plays a drug lord in it. So I think you will agree that you are currently turning off the computer and heading for the video store.

I know some of you guys love EQUILIBRIUM, but I honestly like ONE TOUGH BASTARD way better because it's every bit as dumb as EQUILIBRIUM but without appearing to mistakenly believe it's making some powerful statement about, uh, a world where love is against the law or whatever he thought he was doing there.

I'm not as big as everybody else here on Darabont, but THE MIST was real good and for some reason I can't get enough of DEATH WISH riffs (if that's what this is). So this sounds good.

Harisson Ford was being Considered
by mattforce7
Oct 9th, 2008
03:25:12 AM
"I want my family back!" but really, Darabont has always pleased me. his last movie The Mist was a well crafted film and i rave about it to friends, cuz i was one of those guys that said "This movie looks just as bad as The Fog"(which was fuxking horrible. I cant wait for this next one :D
Jack Rabbit
by Vern
Oct 9th, 2008
03:27:46 AM
I agree, there are all kinds of family members and loved ones who can get killed in a revenge movie. I'm not sure I can list off the top of my head every loved one that was killed in the DEATH WISH series, but I believe it includes wife, daughter, housekeeper, war buddy, new girlfriend, new girlfriend's daughter. I think Bronson is clearly the most badass revenger around, but I think there's some kind of patriarchal shit going on there where he's so often avenging the deaths of these females. So I always like to see a woman get revenge on her own behalf, like in THEY CALL HER ONE EYE, I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE or even SUDDEN IMPACT.

By the way, did anybody else out there like DEATH SENTENCE? I think I'm alone on that one. I thought it was an effective b-movie elevated by Kevin Bacon giving a full-on performance like he thought it was an end of the year awards contender. Plus there's an awesome foot chase.

I loved Death Sentence
by BitterMan23
Oct 9th, 2008
03:48:10 AM
It sickens me that it tanked in theaters, opening the same wkd as Rob Zombie's John Carpenter's Halloween.
Do I just not get it?
by boardbrtn
Oct 9th, 2008
03:53:29 AM
I hear about how great The Mist was but I actually really disliked it. I'm willing to give it a second chance but, really, the ending was the only good thing about that movie. The acting, the bad CGI, the characters... everything! I just don't get why this website (and many critics) loved The Mist so much... tell me, what did I not see?
VERN
by The InSneider
Oct 9th, 2008
03:55:52 AM
I dug Death Sentence. But then The Brave One came along and as good as Bacon was, he's no Jodie Foster. She should've been nominated. I'm being completely serious too.
Death Sentence
by thedeadnextdoor
Oct 9th, 2008
04:56:54 AM
I thought that "Death Sentence" were one of the more entertaining "Death Wish"-riffs in a long time. The footchase was great and I really hope that Darabont brings the bleakness and pessimism to this film that he was able to infuse "the Mist" with. And with "Rock´n´rolla" and this one, Gerard Butler seems to be on some kinda roll.
I have always thought Brian Bosworth and Kate Bosworth...
by DarthBakpao
Oct 9th, 2008
05:15:56 AM
...are related
boardbrtn RE: The Mist
by I_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looki ng_for
Oct 9th, 2008
06:19:10 AM
The reason so many people liked The Mist is that it wasn't about the "mist", cgi creatures, or boo! shock moments. It was about fear and its effect on everyday people. It was a comment on human weakness, showing this group of people form a mob mentality, blindly following a leader that uses religion as a platform for retaliation, and their willingness to sacrifice the young, believing it is for “the greater good”. It’s a commentary on (very) recent history, and an effective one. It’s well made, acted and is one of the rarest of films these days… Intelligent. It expects you to bring something to the table. It invites you to think. Plus, its pretty scary and that ending is like a kick in the guts. Over and out.
DEATH SENTENCE...
by bluelou_boyle
Oct 9th, 2008
06:19:35 AM
Was fantastic. You're right Vern, Bacon's performance really elevated the material. I love the crazy transformation he goes through.
I was hoping The Long Walk was going to be his next...
by Karl Childers
Oct 9th, 2008
06:54:55 AM
Please make this happen!
^ Yes
by UndeadXeke
Oct 9th, 2008
06:58:47 AM
Long Walk please. Awesome book.
DerLanghaarige
by caruso_stalker217
Oct 9th, 2008
07:29:43 AM
I don't think Darabont was out to make the audience cry at the end. I think he was trying to make people angry.

Or, in my case, laugh.

Darabont is a Good Storyteller. The Mist , Not So Great
by cowboyone
Oct 9th, 2008
07:39:37 AM
Hopefully this will be a return to his great cinematic filmmaking and storytelling, and not that digital handheld shit he was f-ing around with (and experimenting with?) with the Mist.
bacci40...
by Nasty In The Pasty
Oct 9th, 2008
08:04:55 AM
...what's the "huge plot hole" at the end of The Long Walk?
Darabont is great but eject Jamie Foxx.
by Stuntcock Mike
Oct 9th, 2008
08:06:03 AM
Wanker.
Death Sentence is awesome.
by Stuntcock Mike
Oct 9th, 2008
08:07:56 AM
Bacon's fucked haircut at the end just adds to it.
The Star Chamber/Dirty Harry only with
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Oct 9th, 2008
08:21:23 AM
no remorse/code of honor to hold you back. Ironic that Hal Holbrook was in both, well Magnum Force as it were.
Star Chamber...
by Karl Childers
Oct 9th, 2008
08:41:56 AM
was being remade recently, no?
I tend to agree with boardbrtn
by chaplinatemyshoe
Oct 9th, 2008
08:44:15 AM
I thought The Mist was pretty bad...like bad Stephen King tv miniseries bad. Best I can say about it is that it's compulsively watchable. But it played out like an extended episode of the Twilight Zone. Combine that with similar opinions I have about The Majestic and The Green Mile, and I'm not exactly going to be the first in line to see this movie. Throwing Wimmer's name into the mix doesn't help a whole lot either given his writing and directing credits aren't exactly stellar either.
Vigilante justice films are very difficult to pull off.
by I_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looki ng_for
Oct 9th, 2008
08:49:36 AM
Using the example of the two last year. Death Sentence and The Brave One. DS had the great, balls out Bacon performance, and at least had the courage of its convictions to follow through to the inevitable conclusion. By that i mean that I assumed Bacons character would probably either die of his wounds, or go to jail. On the other hand, TBO was quality until the end when it had Howards character make a decision that was COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER!!!! The movie set him up really well, allowed him time to flesh out his background, posing the moral decisions he would be willing to make, then had him do the fucking opposite! That film infuriated me because it was really good all the way leading up to it, but didn't follow the story to its logical conclusion. One huge missed opportunity for a GREAT film. On topic, I'll watch anything Darabont makes. Also, read the synopses of The Long Walk on wiki (had never heard of it before). Sounds pretty weird, and similar to The Running Man (i've read the book) in it's subject matter. ie. Volunteering for a deadly competition. The wiki page also quotes Darabont as saying he would "get to it one day". So who knows when that will be.
Anyone else instinctively dislike Jamie Foxx...
by The Grug
Oct 9th, 2008
09:27:41 AM
On screen? I can't say I've ever really cared for a single character he's played.
The Grug
by Stuntcock Mike
Oct 9th, 2008
09:37:49 AM
I never liked the guy's acting. Ever. Just annoying in general.
Gerard Butler did it
by mara69
Oct 9th, 2008
10:02:30 AM
If you really don't want Jamie Foxx in this, talk to Gerard Butler, his production company is behind this.
Death Sentence...
by Darkman
Oct 9th, 2008
10:02:40 AM
Liked the film, liked Bacon, had a good score...but I hardly see anyone mention John Goodman. Fuck, was he incredible in that!
I loved Death Sentence
by TheContinentalOp
Oct 9th, 2008
10:03:35 AM
Skipped work on my birthday to go see it. Time well spent. I like how he shaves his head wrong at the end and ends up looking like a cenobite or some shit.
Id much rather see Long Walk
by Lovecraftfan
Oct 9th, 2008
10:22:29 AM
Will he ever do that?
Good Jamie Foxx performances...
by Big DM
Oct 9th, 2008
11:15:53 AM
He was better in Collateral than Ray, in my opinion. Also was very good in the Will Smith Ali movie as Bundini Brown. You kids need to stop with the knee-jerk reactions about people.
I happen to think Colin Farrell is awesome.
by Knuckleduster
Oct 9th, 2008
11:29:16 AM
He really impressed in Tigerland, and The New World and Miami Vice kind of sealed the deal for me. I think he's great, and will probably even get better with age.
also liked Death Sentence...
by eustisclay
Oct 9th, 2008
11:30:42 AM
... but while I wanted to like the Brave One, the ending just took me out of it. Sure, Howard's character came off wrong. But what the fuck was it with the dog? "Here Jodie, here's a bad guy, shoot him. Got him? Okay let me go find another one. Got him? Okay let me go get another one." C'mon. From a house dog?
The Mist, why we like it
by mattforce7
Oct 9th, 2008
12:30:36 PM
it was the unexpected scope and atmosphere which really pulled me in. I thought they handled the rather cliché characters/ events in the store rather well, and the only bad CG was *SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER* the first tentacle shots when red head was dragged out from the back store room.*END SPOILER END SPOILER END SPOILER* I think i liked it so much because iw as expecting a really RAELLY shitty movie, then i heard some good praise being tossed around and it really took a turn for me
Darabont? Revenge?
by fivezero
Oct 9th, 2008
01:14:15 PM
I'm there. No questions asked. I wonder how he'll depict the violence. Pretty, crisp shots with bursts of mostly off-screen violence, I imagine. And watch for the crane lift shot of the bloody aftermath. Can't wait to see how this one pans out.
Can't Wait!
by fassbinder79
Oct 9th, 2008
02:00:48 PM
Darabont can do no wrong as far as I'm concerned. Happy to see Foxx playing the heavy. Good choice. Just bought the blu-ray for The Mist today!
Whom v. Who
by yomomma
Oct 9th, 2008
02:06:50 PM
Who is a subject, whom is the direct object. In the sentence "an angry man, WHOM's wife and children..." WHOM is restating the subject and should therefore be WHO. Just a friendly message from your local grammar Nazi to whom? Why, to a person who (subject) writes for a living.
BluRay MIST!!!??
by mattforce7
Oct 9th, 2008
02:39:39 PM
I getting it now!!!!!
Darabont
by fartedinthefaceofhollywood
Oct 9th, 2008
04:13:32 PM
i didn't like The Mist at all...im not gonna say its worse than The Happening...but it had that unintentionally funny shit that just made it a "screwball horror film" for me. Death Sentence???...im a sucker for revenge films so i had fun with that one, but yeah...youre right Vern...its totally got that B-movie vibe, the last part of the movie reminded me of Taxi Driver in some ways.
I would MUUUUUUUUUCH rather him do The Long Walk
by The Amazing G
Oct 9th, 2008
06:04:37 PM
also bacci40 I actually found the ending pretty chilling
Having a female murdered seems to be more dramatic
by terry1978
Oct 9th, 2008
06:32:50 PM
That whole "women in refrigerators" thing. A dude gets killed that's a friend, meh...I'm pissed. You kill a woman...dammit, that is just crossing the line and I will exact my bloody veageance.
Israeli army would agree with Terry
by JackRabbitSlim
Oct 9th, 2008
09:15:48 PM
Remember reading a thing (prolly bs) that Israel tried women soldiers and canned the idea - not because of performance reasons - but that male soldiers had a difficult time effectively doing their appointed tasks when a woman was injured. Emotional/genetic/societal - nature vs nurture - whatever the reasoning, you decide.
Random Thoughts and for Vern
by JackRabbitSlim
Oct 9th, 2008
09:33:23 PM
1) I loved Death Senetence for the variety of reasons brought up here as well as A) the return of that most 70's of killing machines - the shotgun and B) John Goodman who, though he seems to be consuming Crisco by the container now, really is a quality character actor.

2) As for Vern - I'm a big fan of revengeploitation but it occurs to me - has there ever been a revenger where a woman is wreaking her wrath for a killed loved one without being violated herself? Nearly all the woman-as-badass movies of the 70s and 80s had her being raped and even today's have her being physically assaulted but cant think of any that have the Death Wish structure - she finds out lover/son/daddy/cat/whatever is dead - looses her terrible swift sword. Reminds me of the old horror trope - death of women almost always more prolonged, torturous than men - playing on a primarily male audience's (?Latent?) misogynist interest. Oh my God - I sound like Drew.

3) I've said it before. "The Long Walk" is such a mental game that it would take a deft director's touch to make it compelling. Think about it - it could become the cinematic equivalent of "99 bottles of beer on the wall" if not done right. Not as 'unfilmmable' as - say - Gerald's Game but a tough nut to crack imo.

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