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UPDATED! Johnny Depp Hosting Tea Party For Burton's ALICE IN WONDERLAND! And Saddling Up As Tonto For Jerry Bruckheimer!

what?? by Bootskin	Sep 24th, 2008 05:09:36 PM
Wasn't this announced already?
Notice I did not say... by Bootskin	Sep 24th, 2008 05:10:01 PM
the thing that comes before second.
Perfect! by gruntybear	Sep 24th, 2008 05:11:34 PM
Dead-on perfect casting.
THIS JUST IN! by PirateEmery	Sep 24th, 2008 05:14:10 PM
Some actor named Daniel Craig is supposed to play the new Bond in Quantum of Solace! Seriously, this was something that YOU GUYS alerted us to earlier this summer.
hasn't this been known for a couple of months now? by CampKoala	Sep 24th, 2008 05:16:46 PM
or am I going mad? Too much mercury I guess.
official by doubleARon	Sep 24th, 2008 05:16:59 PM
Probably this is the first official announcement. Just guessing.
Another surprise: Bonham-Carter as the Queen. by Flim Springfield	Sep 24th, 2008 05:17:23 PM

Olde news,, by Spyhunter	Sep 24th, 2008 05:18:15 PM
And I've pretty much come to expect that barring scheduling conflicts, any quirky off beat roles are going to be played by Johnny Depp. I guess that's just his typecasting.
Whoopdie fuckin' slap by Speed Fricassee	Sep 24th, 2008 05:22:44 PM
Don' give no kinda shit.
sigh by I am the most horrible	Sep 24th, 2008 05:23:00 PM
I like Depp, and I like Burton but I am just tired of the Burton Depp thing. And the Helena Bonham Carter casting wears me down too. Nepotism!
...Perfect Casting? by Fleet	Sep 24th, 2008 05:23:44 PM
How can people say "Perfect Casting?"... It's not like Burton would choose a film where he COULDN'T cast Johnny Depp (Or Helena BC, for that matter...) It's not like much thought was put into agonising over who would be "right for the role"...
JUST announced, eh...? by Nosferatu Jones	Sep 24th, 2008 05:32:01 PM
I guess "just announced" is the new lingo for "reported three weeks ago." Good grief.
Should've been Paul Reubens... by Forsakyn	Sep 24th, 2008 05:32:24 PM
Now that would've been an actual surprise (and one I wouldn't mind). I thought Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was really bad (Gene Wilder was vastly superior in that role, as was the original film) - Tim Burton (to me at least) is more miss than hit. But then again, my favorite film film of his is Pee Wee's Big Adventure.
my God its shocking! by Cedar_Room	Sep 24th, 2008 05:32:53 PM
Helena Bonham Carter has already been cast as the Queen Of Hearts right?
In fairness... by Forsakyn	Sep 24th, 2008 05:33:14 PM
I think Johnny Depp can be a terrific actor, but like any of us he makes bad decisions at times.
by AllieJamison	Sep 24th, 2008 05:36:41 PM
I guess it was just a rumor but somehow I had it in my head as an already approved fact. What's up with Tinseltown these days? Things seem to be really slow. Is it still that SAG-thing that's keeping things from happening? Well...it may just be a misconception.
didnt people call that when this film was announced? by finky089	Sep 24th, 2008 05:37:05 PM
The question is, will Elfman score it? And will it be the old, awesome Elfman or the Spiderman-Willy Wonka unspectacular Elfman?
blackberry more like sackberry by Fat and Curious	Sep 24th, 2008 05:37:50 PM
Am I right?
hey AllieJ! by finky089	Sep 24th, 2008 05:40:57 PM
Been a while. I think it was only rumored up until now. Perhaps, more like "a foregone conclusion" Depp would play that role. seems right, but really not at all surprising. what'd you think of Indy (told ya it'd been a while)? Was Deutschland just as disappointed with it as we spoiled Americans?
take Jett's word for it? Seriously??? by finky089	Sep 24th, 2008 05:43:15 PM
Thanks for the laugh. But in this case you're probably right. But take your word for it? After all that fake Indy stuff crap last fall??
No fucking shit. by Gilkuliehe	Sep 24th, 2008 05:46:48 PM
Really?
No , fucking, kidding... by SlickyVonBoner	Sep 24th, 2008 05:46:55 PM
Big surprise. Is there a movie of Burton's that Depp isn't in? Seriously, you two, get a room already!!
shocked! by br1947	Sep 24th, 2008 05:48:34 PM
Depp in a Burton movie?!?!? What a shocking revelation! What's next, making it emo-dark and semi-creepy?
He needs to get DeVito in this by caruso_stalker217	Sep 24th, 2008 05:49:53 PM
Walken, Nicholson, and Sarah Jessica Parker. This needs to be a fuckin' freakshow.
Agreed, DeVito as the Cheshire Cat by br1947	Sep 24th, 2008 05:51:44 PM
That would actually make it worth watching, lol
Burton Is The Biggest Sell Out Since Krusty The Clown by A-COD	Sep 24th, 2008 05:51:52 PM
Burton, once hailed as an original, continues to rehash other peoples works. He's laughing all the way to the bank but in a way it's sad.
Deppless Burton Films (post Pee-Wee & Batman) by finky089	Sep 24th, 2008 05:52:29 PM
Nightmare Before Xmas planet of the Apes did I miss any in that long list?
Depp in a Burton film? Get the fuck out. by Heckles	Sep 24th, 2008 05:52:31 PM
Seriously. Get the fuck out.
BOOOOOORING! by LHombreSiniestro	Sep 24th, 2008 05:52:52 PM
Sorry, I try not to be trollish ever, but Tim Burton is just lazy.
Reubens as the Hatter would be sick! by worldofwarcraft	Sep 24th, 2008 05:53:07 PM
I hope this turns out well. The Disney Alice is one of the most haunting movies of my childhood. The scene with the sweeping dog thing always creeped me the hell out. The whole feeling of being alone, Alice is confused by everything around her. And the adults aren't any help cause they're all insane. The crazy characters in that film are creative and cool, but they feel dangerous and threating too. And as a kid I had a fear of strangers, I always was wary of being kidnapped, mustve been all those commercials about not talking to strangers and fliers at school about suspicious vans in the area at three o'clock.
DeVito as Cheshire Cat by finky089	Sep 24th, 2008 05:55:23 PM
I like it.
I hope Burton doesn't F this up! by eoneon	Sep 24th, 2008 05:56:07 PM
I am a fan of Burton's but I know he's made some bad films. Depp can be great,especially in small doses. without Depp,POTC wouldve tanked. I personally disliked them all. anyhow,this sounds like it could be great,or a disaster if rushed. Burton always had a vivid imagination. much,much more than Michael Bay. can't wait for a trailer. peace be to all who seek it. namaste
Make Reubens the March Hare Instead... by Mr. N	Sep 24th, 2008 05:57:18 PM
And let him and Johnny got nuts together. Reubs could also do a mean White Rabbit. Now I can say I warmed up a role for Johnny Depp (was the Mad Hatter, in a straight-jacket, in a play way back in high school). Let's just hope this thing doesn't lag or is as balls-awful as Charlie and the Chocolate Oompa-Loompas. Oops, should I have gone there?
You bitches can "not care" all you want... by slone13	Sep 24th, 2008 05:59:24 PM
I find you feigned lack of concern highly amusing. After all, you bothered to take the time to actually post that you didn't care about something. Meaning you schmucks cared enough to let people you've never even met know how much you "don't" care. The irony is lost on you, I'm quite sure. But you're morons, so you don't even realize it. Good day.
finky by caruso_stalker217	Sep 24th, 2008 05:59:29 PM
MARS ATTACKS! and BIG FISH. Other than that it's a Depp-fest.
Keaton...... by odo19	Sep 24th, 2008 06:04:10 PM
needs to be in this. It could be a really cool reunion. Maybe have him and Depp in the same scene somehow. I have'nt read Alice in Wonderland in a long time though so I have no idea what he could play. Oh and DeVito as the Cheshire Cat is genius.
Casting by Darth Kong	Sep 24th, 2008 06:07:38 PM
Paul Giamatti as the Cheshire Cat. Dickie Attenborough would be an awesome White Rabbit, though perhaps too old.
I would love to see Keaton... by caruso_stalker217	Sep 24th, 2008 06:07:38 PM
...as the Walrus.
Depp Overload by deanbarry	Sep 24th, 2008 06:09:02 PM
It is a shame, cause I love the guy. he has got some serious acting chops. But man!!!! Seriously, aren't we seeing a little too much of him in these kind of roles? He likes to choose challenging parts. Characters that don't exploit his pretty boy looks, and I commend him for that. But he has dug himself into a hole and chooses nothing but kooky. And Burton really needs to look other actors. Stop being safe!!!!
Ian Holm as White Rabbit by odo19	Sep 24th, 2008 06:10:50 PM
I called it.
If they went younger.. by Darth Kong	Sep 24th, 2008 06:11:52 PM
...how about Simon Pegg as the White Rabbit?
The Loan Arranger by deanbarry	Sep 24th, 2008 06:13:36 PM
Now that has got me smiling :)
In too Depp by Thot	Sep 24th, 2008 06:15:39 PM
I like Johnny Depp but he's trying to wear too many, er, hats lately. He was awful as Willy Wonka and I fear the goofy Mad Hatter will be Depp's Wonka on acid. I pray he's not the Lone Ranger. How the hell would he play him? Straight ahead as he should, or fey and/or off-kilter like he's prone?? Please say it aint so Joe.
The Lone Ranger eh? by Darth Kong	Sep 24th, 2008 06:18:57 PM
Helena Bonham Carter as Tonto?
aha! by RosebudsTheSled	Sep 24th, 2008 06:20:56 PM
Johnny Depp is now officially playing Seth Rogens Grandad...can't say i see a fmaily resemblance
finkeeeyyyyyyy by AllieJamison	Sep 24th, 2008 06:29:28 PM
Certainly good to see you around. Well...I was disappointed. You know, I thought about a lot of shit they would or could fuck up but it didn't occurr to me that within a decade of script-quest they wouldn't be able to think of some Indy-worthy set-pieces and basically manage to kill Indy off in the second half of the movie. Even huge amounts of some of the magic stuff (Apfelwein) couldn't wash down the bad impressions. It is what it is. There certainly were things in it, that I enjoyed, though. What did you think?
"Johnny Depp snuck out onstage behind him, by Amy Chasing	Sep 24th, 2008 06:47:46 PM
dressed as Captain Jack Sparrow, but wearing a very familiar black mask over his eyes as well." Am I the only one who finds this slightly surreal? I'm sure people (yes, women & men) were swooning everywhere, but it just seems as a marketing ploy to be quite wacky - if not a little insidious... At least that's how I'm picturing it in my mind not having been there myself.
mad hatter - yes! but the lone ranger...? by orange cinema	Sep 24th, 2008 06:47:58 PM

Like Depp, but he fucking sucked in Wonka by quantize	Sep 24th, 2008 06:50:29 PM
..this sounds like the opposite of perfect casting to me
It;s fun to... by the1980mutant	Sep 24th, 2008 06:52:45 PM
sell out. Guess that's the point of acting. Find a career. HAHAHHA I'm a millionaire. That's what I'd think.
Clarification by mrbeaks	Sep 24th, 2008 07:00:12 PM
It was actually Disney chairman Dick Cook whom Depp "surprised". More in a bit on this event.
UGH! by Saltoner	Sep 24th, 2008 07:03:41 PM
The Lone Ranger!? Miserable!
Again by Saltoner	Sep 24th, 2008 07:09:25 PM
After reading the previous posts it's a fair assumption to say Burton is a hack, with a few lucky hits in his career and all but like 2 people agree. Why is he still getting work? Seriously people! There are like 10 directors/actors who do all the work in Hollywood. It's getting sad, like government, we need new, talented blood!
I think I prefer recent Burton over recent Spielberg. by Amy Chasing	Sep 24th, 2008 07:22:30 PM
Indy and Munich vs Wonka and Sweeney, I prefer Burton. Comparing Burton to Spielberg, Shyamalan, Zemekis, Lucas, I could go on, Burton is doing better work in my eyes than those guys.
indiana Jones and the Temple of Depp by finky089	Sep 24th, 2008 07:26:18 PM
Alas, I felt similarly, AllieJamison. I was trying my hardest to stop myself from doing doubletakes in the darkened theater at what I saw on-screen. Especially in the first 15-20 minutes. And I felt pretty let down by the underuse/under-written role for Marion. I don't know if Karen Allen was just so thrilled to be reunited with the Indy crew or what, but this was not much of the Marion we saw in Raiders. I suppose Ms.Ravenwood must have mellowed over the years and after having a kid. I never really dug the aliens part, but got over it in hope it'd come out ok (I mean, people probably felt similar about the Ark of the Covenant before Raiders), but in this case it just felt incredibly contrived and like that or didn't really cover any novel ground, or at least do it in an engrossing, novel way. I found myself questioning why the characters were doing certain things a lot of the time. It just felt like everyone was going through the motions for the sake of making another Indy movie and wasn't worried about how well the story held together or even made sense. it felt like "Diet Indy" compared to the red-canned boldness of "Indy-cola Classic" (Raiders). That was how I felt about it when I walked out of the theatre. I wanted to see it again. Without all the release hype, without my expectations, and just watch it. See if I could enjoy it after some time had passed, but I never got back to the theatre again for it. Still want to, though. I've since been trying to read post-release stuff from the filmakers to help illuminate the reasons for why they went with the story and details they chose, etc. And I just keep finding the stuff over and over: they made it for "the fans"; they made it "for fun"; Lucas finally wore everyone down and beat them into submission about doing the aliens thing. But no real explanations about why things had to happen the way they did in the film. I read the big-ass Complete Making of Indiana Jones book that recently came out (fascinating details on the original films) and for as much detail as they go into on a film made 27 years ago, there's comparatively little thought revealed on Crystal Skull except that people wanted to make another Indy and that's it. so, crap in, crap out I guess. That was pretty long-winded of me. all the negative stuff aside, I did really enjoy seeing Indy on-screen again doing some Indy-like stuff. Shia wasn't the bane of the film. And there were some fun, enlongated chase/fight scenes. I just have a lot of unanswered questions about things in the movie that I hope to iron out with future viewings.
indiana Jones and the Temple of Depp by finky089	Sep 24th, 2008 07:26:52 PM
Alas, I felt similarly, AllieJamison. I was trying my hardest to stop myself from doing doubletakes in the darkened theater at what I saw on-screen. Especially in the first 15-20 minutes. And I felt pretty let down by the underuse/under-written role for Marion. I don't know if Karen Allen was just so thrilled to be reunited with the Indy crew or what, but this was not much of the Marion we saw in Raiders. I suppose Ms.Ravenwood must have mellowed over the years and after having a kid. I never really dug the aliens part, but got over it in hope it'd come out ok (I mean, people probably felt similar about the Ark of the Covenant before Raiders), but in this case it just felt incredibly contrived and like that or didn't really cover any novel ground, or at least do it in an engrossing, novel way. I found myself questioning why the characters were doing certain things a lot of the time. It just felt like everyone was going through the motions for the sake of making another Indy movie and wasn't worried about how well the story held together or even made sense. it felt like "Diet Indy" compared to the red-canned boldness of "Indy-cola Classic" (Raiders). That was how I felt about it when I walked out of the theatre. I wanted to see it again. Without all the release hype, without my expectations, and just watch it. See if I could enjoy it after some time had passed, but I never got back to the theatre again for it. Still want to, though. I've since been trying to read post-release stuff from the filmakers to help illuminate the reasons for why they went with the story and details they chose, etc. And I just keep finding the stuff over and over: they made it for "the fans"; they made it "for fun"; Lucas finally wore everyone down and beat them into submission about doing the aliens thing. But no real explanations about why things had to happen the way they did in the film. I read the big-ass Complete Making of Indiana Jones book that recently came out (fascinating details on the original films) and for as much detail as they go into on a film made 27 years ago, there's comparatively little thought revealed on Crystal Skull except that people wanted to make another Indy and that's it. so, crap in, crap out I guess. That was pretty long-winded of me. all the negative stuff aside, I did really enjoy seeing Indy on-screen again doing some Indy-like stuff. Shia wasn't the bane of the film. And there were some fun, enlongated chase/fight scenes. I just have a lot of unanswered questions about things in the movie that I hope to iron out with future viewings.
Oh Jphnny Depp....is this really what it's come to? by IndustryKiller!	Sep 24th, 2008 07:27:06 PM
Appearing in character as Jack Sparrow as Disney press events? You gotta be fucking kidding me. And the Lone Ranger? Really? ANOTHER big budget Disney franchise? Integrity where art thou?
oops, sorry for the long double-post by finky089	Sep 24th, 2008 07:29:27 PM

And Burtons last seven films have all been mediocre to awful by IndustryKiller!	Sep 24th, 2008 07:30:14 PM
Yes including the dour, well art directed but passionlessly directed and acted over-all Sweeney Todd. The last thing I need to see is Depp team up with Burton again. Their last two outings have been as straight down the middle and boring as it could possibly get. It's safe to say at this point that Burton has completely lost it. His latter films are mere poseurs devoid of any real wonder compared to his earlier work.
caruso-stalker217 by finky089	Sep 24th, 2008 07:32:02 PM
How could I forget those. It's actually suprising Depp WASN'T in Mars attacks given how many other cameos were in that film. Though, I think there's definitely some "Depp residue" in Lukas Haas's character. And portman would be a vast improvement over Helena "tired oil tits" Carter
I really hope PEE-WEE is in this film! by Demode	Sep 24th, 2008 07:32:06 PM
I have been watching Pee-Wees Playhouse on MTV 2 lately, and I forgot just what a funny & magical show that was. So ahead of its time, and better than any of the kids shows on TV today. He would be perfect in a film like this.
Oh...and after Nolan's 3rd Batman comes out.... by Demode	Sep 24th, 2008 07:37:34 PM
They should get Burton to make a 3rd Batman for his film series. Michael Keaton as an older Batman who comes out of retirement, ala The Dark Knight Returns. I would love to have two Batman "trilogies" made by talented directors, and just orget about the two Schumakers films.
the Lone Ranger film by finky089	Sep 24th, 2008 07:39:45 PM
I don't know why, but I have hopes for this film. (At least before I know anything about it.) I was pretty doubtful when disney announce a movie based on the Pirates ride and it turned out far better than anyone expected up front. (Speaking of which, what happened to the Jungle Cruise movie they announced last year?) It's about time somebody did for Westerns what Pirates did for, well, pirates.
paul reubens as the March Hare could be fantastic! by finky089	Sep 24th, 2008 07:42:46 PM
Whoever said it up there about him and Depp riffing through a few scenes together nailed it. but Reubens could also make a pretty good Queen of Hearts ;-) Hoskins for White Rabbit anyone?
A 3rd Burton Batman film... by Demode	Sep 24th, 2008 07:49:12 PM
A 3rd Burton Batm film could also give us Catwoman again. Michelle still looks hot enough for the aprt after all these years. Throw in Johnny Depp as an already established Riddler, and Bill Dee Williams as an established Two Face, and we have a fun film.
Bill Tell by AllieJamison	Sep 24th, 2008 07:50:50 PM
Wow, they actually translate "Wilhelm" into all the different languages? That's weird. Just as Depp's surprise performance. I agree with each one of your points, finky. Marion, Ford's weird delivery of lines in front of the warehouse and then there's Mac's legs, "the skull told me this and that", even John Williams recycling Last Crusade's theme when the film is already at a low ...and so much more. And I'm still asking the same questions you hinted at. I also can't help but think of this film as a huge misunderstanding. Does Spielberg really think he did well? I guess I'll pay your blog a visit.
Did someone just say Nat Portman over Helena Carter? by Amy Chasing	Sep 24th, 2008 07:51:29 PM
No. Bad. Go back and watch V For Vendetta and then Fight Club, two good movies - only one good performance though.
Amy Chasing by finky089	Sep 24th, 2008 08:04:20 PM
To each their own, friend
Johnny to bad wo-wo- woo by mr dark	Sep 24th, 2008 08:07:31 PM
They must have payed him a shitload of money to come out as cap'n jack..I can just hear it now..Now Mr. Depp where would you like us to back the truck up at.. Oh!! to that big offshore account. No problem.. You can keep the costume too..auction it off on e-bay..no really we don't mind a bit..Yep!! The Johnny Depp business is a good business to be in.
Yes, but finky089 by Amy Chasing	Sep 24th, 2008 08:14:51 PM
There's method behind my madness. What's yours?
AllieJ, the blog by finky089	Sep 24th, 2008 08:15:11 PM
Er, yeah...I've been bad about posting for a while. Work's kept me begging for daily doses of the Apfelwein it's been so damn busy. Anyone that tells you Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac is in danger doesn't work in the multifamily mortgage industry! but I digress :) all your points are dead on. I really felt underwhelmed by William's score, too. I didn't really like the continum keyboard effect, though I think it kind of fits for a sci-fi film, but not an Indy film. The parts I ended up liking a lot were often the recycled pieces from earlier Indy films. Which is too bad. But I felt somewhat similarly when the SW prequels first came out and over time, much of the "new" music grew on me, some of it a lot more than I ever expected. Maybe in three years I'll feel the same way about Crystal Skull's score. Depp as Lone Ranger, huh? I guess we'll see how that turns out. I don't think a fey Ranger is necessarily the best way to go with it, but it seemed to be okay for Pirates. Then again, it's already been done with Pirates.
I don't see him as a sell-out as much as by sweeneydave	Sep 24th, 2008 08:28:05 PM
a guy who discovered how much fun it was to play pirate, and now he gets to play the Lone Ranger. It's all about childhood heroes. Depp doesn't strike me as a guy who feels he is qualified to fill these roles, but rather as a kid who can't wait to play dress up. And I don't blame him for that one bit. It's going from "work" to "play". And who's more fun to play with than his best bud, Tim Burton?
Deep did sya he wanted to do more family roles by blindambition238	Sep 24th, 2008 08:50:56 PM
cause he said he felt like his kids wouldn't be able to sit through most of his current back catalog. Hey, at least he's not doing The Haunted Mansion 2
Depp Is Tonto by mrbeaks	Sep 24th, 2008 09:02:46 PM
Updated again.
people are excited? by illegaltouching	Sep 24th, 2008 09:06:01 PM
depp is great actor, but this is more of the same. can't we see him do his keith richards impression again?
Stoner Depp would be a better Caterpiller by KongMonkey	Sep 24th, 2008 09:10:08 PM
IMO
makes more sense by illegaltouching	Sep 24th, 2008 09:15:20 PM
so viggo as the lone ranger then?
I was actually just thinking the other day... by Rando Calrisian	Sep 24th, 2008 09:21:49 PM
I saw a clip of the 80's Lone Ranger Movie on some TV show the other day. I thought to myself... how long before the reimagining of The Lone Ranger. In time everything you love will re-imagined. I'm not againt a new Lone Ranger. He's a pretty positive character, and it could be fun. Don't know about Depp in the role, but it could be worse. The guy at least knows how to have fun with a role. Now... who's Tonto?
Fear and Loathing in the Old West by Rupee88	Sep 24th, 2008 09:44:05 PM
sounds like a buddy film with TLR and Tonto.
Waiting for the other shoe to drop by mr dark	Sep 24th, 2008 09:48:00 PM
and here it comes with shit on its heel....Seth Rogan as the Lone Ranger...Return with us now to those thrilling days of yesteryear. When the Lone Ranger rides again...God how I used to love to hear that opening...oh well
Who will play The Lone Ranger? by Bumpasses Dawg	Sep 24th, 2008 09:51:33 PM
Depp as second banana? Who gets the lead saddle? Some young newcomer like Chris Pine? The story of the Ranger would seem to suggest that it would be someone young, and Tonto would be like his "Obi Wan," helping him get revenge on those who killed his brother and the other Texas Rangers. Please... not the Beef...
If Johnny is Tonto.. by mr dark	Sep 24th, 2008 10:04:11 PM
What the fuck is he wearing the mask for..As for remaking the Lone Ranger I have two words for Disney...Clinton Spillsbury...Yeah he starred in the remake which was just ok but flooped pretty bad when it opened and did so-so on video..Somethings should just be left alone and I think the Lone Ranger is one of them.. Westerns are a hard sell unless more adult themed in general now a days..I for one love a good western but the days of public consumption of western comedies may be gone..
Moriarty: Did you ever by Sith Witch	Sep 24th, 2008 10:06:37 PM
see Charlie & The Chocolate Factory yet? I contend it's one of Burton's best, and that rather recently you still hadn't seen it yet. Your thoughts in a few sentences?
Whoa whoa whoa....Tonto? by IndustryKiller!	Sep 24th, 2008 10:07:44 PM
Ok I rescind my former comments. If he's taking the supporting role in a big budget film that is way out of his type then thats fucking cool. I know hes part native american and has always had a fascination with the culture so possibly.....
American McGee's Alice by crimsoncinder	Sep 24th, 2008 10:12:57 PM
Does this have anything to do with American McGee's Alice game to movie adaption?
Johnny jawless by mr dark	Sep 24th, 2008 10:14:40 PM
You are right sir Jarmusch's Dead Man is an awesome piece of work.. And a fine performance by Depp
Chris Lloyd for Caterpillar, Man in a dress for the queen by Mr. N	Sep 24th, 2008 10:15:24 PM
Even though Lloyd was in the tv alice, he'd make a great older, stoner caterpillar. And of course Burton will make the queen of hearts a transvestite, and he should. Alan Cumming? Crispin Glover? They both have to be something in this movie. IMDB says Alice has been cast and it's Mia Wasikowska. Can't say I've seen here in anything.
What happened to the werewolf bullet thing? by zombiwolf	Sep 24th, 2008 10:25:25 PM
Just finished 'Abre los Ojos' and am doubting my surroundings.
I need to see a video of this... by PirateEmery	Sep 24th, 2008 10:27:07 PM

I said it once, I'll say it again... by Mr. Nice Gaius	Sep 24th, 2008 10:40:25 PM
...there is only one man who can play the Mad Hatter. And that man is Steve Buscemi. "I'm so mad, I wash my hands 100 times a day because they smell like my mother!"
Sith Witch by Charlie_Allnut	Sep 24th, 2008 10:55:32 PM
No disrespect meant - you are entitled to your opinion but are you out of your fuckin mind? Willy Wonka one of Burton's best??? Really? To each his own I guess, but I'll stick with Beetlejuice and Ed Wood myself.
Depp should play the Lone Ranger by Charlie_Allnut	Sep 24th, 2008 11:02:47 PM
I think there are plenty of talented American Indian actors who could play Tonto - Wes Studi, Adam Beach etc. but I guess they aren't box office draws so whatever. I'm sure Depp will be great in the role of course, just sayin.
When is Depp going to start Shantaram? by GQtaste	Sep 24th, 2008 11:06:52 PM
I've been waiting to see this one it seems for years now. And I agree he needs to stay the hell away from "the goth one." Venture out like he did w/ Mike Mann recently.
Burton's Wonka probably wouldn't have pleased Roald Dahl. by Amy Chasing	Sep 24th, 2008 11:08:17 PM
But then he was reportedly a sour-puss when it came to adaptations of his work so no surprises there. But otherwise it was big, colorful, entertaining (especially the songs), well made and a good adaptation for my money. What more could you ask for? Seriously, what did other people want from that flik?
Wonka by Charlie_Allnut	Sep 24th, 2008 11:13:23 PM
Wasn't horrible, just a pale pale imitation of the original movie...it really was not any different then the first movie except that it did not have the charisma of Gene Wilder and the great music. I think that Chris Walken would have been the better choice for the role...a rare bad performance by Depp-he was just creepy (not in a good way) and weird - not a good protaganist.
Part Cherokee? He's as white as Casper! by br1947	Sep 24th, 2008 11:21:29 PM
I like Depp in certain roles, but this entire film just seems wrong for him.
I didn't see Burton by Amy Chasing	Sep 24th, 2008 11:28:35 PM

I didn't see Burton's Wonka as imitating the original. by Amy Chasing	Sep 24th, 2008 11:29:54 PM
The original was a musical while Burton's wasn't. It had songs but it wasn't a musical. But Burton's stuck closer to the original text, so I guess it was imitating something from the start.
Good one, Mr, Dark. by Gilkuliehe	Sep 24th, 2008 11:46:17 PM
Why the fuck would he appear wearing a mask if he's Tonto indeed. Shouldn't he be wearing a feather or something? Please do comment, Beaks.
Go see CHOKE this weekend. by Kid Idioteque	Sep 25th, 2008 12:13:27 AM
Seriously... awesome, disgusting, heartfelt, perverted, and sweet.
Aren't all white people one quarter Cherokee? by Fa Fa Fooey	Sep 25th, 2008 12:40:26 AM
Everyone I know always claims to be one quarter Cherokee. Maybe to seem part mysterious or cool. Probably why some name their daughters "Dakota."
Fa Fa Fooey by Amy Chasing	Sep 25th, 2008 12:50:44 AM
Without being racist it's a similar thing in Australia. There are Aboriginals here whiter than I am. Like I said, not being racist, just an observation.
Steve Buscemi as The March Hare. Peter O' Toole as The Cheshire by DRACULA_WANTS_THE_AMULET	Sep 25th, 2008 01:02:35 AM
Willaim H Macy as the Walrus Pee Wee Herman and Pauly Shore as Tweedledum and Tweedledee. Philip Seymour Hoffman as The Queen Of Hearts. Steven Wright as the Dormouse. Christopher Walken as The Caterpilla Michael J. Pollard as the White Rabbit. Jon Heder as The Cards.
Jim Caviezel for The Lone Ranger!! by DarthBakpao	Sep 25th, 2008 01:20:17 AM

Thomas Haden Church As The Carpenter by DRACULA_WANTS_THE_AMULET	Sep 25th, 2008 01:43:08 AM
Hoping this scene is all sorts of fucked up- Like the Dinner Scene in the original 1974 Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Since gore could be an issue- You cut away to shadows on the wall when the clam killings begin. Hearing them scream for help, watching their shadow silhouettes being ripped apart with black goo splattering onto the walls, as the Walrus tears them out of their shells and devours them. A nice messy close up of the clam guts dangling from his Mustache when the Carpenter comes back out ready to eat.. Oh please make this scene terrifyingly bliss, a true child giving nightmare!
i am jacks complete lack of surprise by thinboyslim.	Sep 25th, 2008 02:51:08 AM
next up the casting of bonham carter as the queen of hearts.
HST by CGI_Pants	Sep 25th, 2008 03:23:39 AM
What the fuck ever happened to The Rum Diary?
Finally a new Lone Ranger movie! by zapano	Sep 25th, 2008 03:28:10 AM
This could be great. Depp as Tonto is perfect. The music alone will instill a certain classiness in the film. This could be the new Indiana Jones. It will also make a tonne of money!
Did anyone mention? by Boba Fat	Sep 25th, 2008 03:33:14 AM
That brit comic Matt Lucas is playing both Tweddle Dum and Tweedle Dee. Haven't read all the talkback so maybe they did.
Depp Casting is GREAT NEWS! by grievenom	Sep 25th, 2008 03:34:28 AM
I had hoped the rumors were true. It will make this project much better having Johnny. As for scattered talk that Michael Keaton should be in it, NO WAY. Keep Keaton out of it. I think Burton, Depp and Carter will make a great flick, doubters be damned.
Amy Chasing by grievenom	Sep 25th, 2008 03:37:12 AM
I agree, I like Burton's last couple over Spielberg's last couple, as well as Lucas, M. Night, Zemeckis, etc. While Burton's last few efforts before Charlie and the Chocolate Factory weren't to my liking, i like it and Sweeney Todd quite a bit. I haven't enjoyed Spielberg's, Zemeckis, Night, last few films at all, and I've only liked one Lucas directed movie, and that was from 1977.
ive known this for at least 6 months. by Obscura	Sep 25th, 2008 03:37:33 AM
and im pretty damn sure my source was this very site.
finky re: MARS ATTACKS! by caruso_stalker217	Sep 25th, 2008 03:39:43 AM
Depp was actually offered the Michael J. Fox role, but turned it down. What could have been, I guess.
Burton's good when he sticks to what he's best at... by L. Ron Bumquist	Sep 25th, 2008 03:44:11 AM
like Corpse Bride and Sweeney Todd but is truly awful when he tries to diversify, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Charlie and the Shit Factory more like. Alice will fall into the latter category.
Depp is pissing away his talent? by Mr Gorilla	Sep 25th, 2008 04:10:31 AM
OK, this is just me, but I adored the role he played in DONNIE BRASCO. He was amazing in that film. But somehow, he has decided not to revisit that sort of role (NB bar his role in the new Michael Mann, which I think I'll like) and do - to my mind - rather too many of those 'child-like' characters. Now, when he does them with sensitivity - like Edward Scissorhands, or William Blake in Dead Man - it's wonderful. But enough with the Willy Wonka/Captain Jack shit. Please, enough! DEPP, YOU ARE A VERY TALENTED MAN! USE THAT TALENT!!!
Depp is pissing away his talent? by Mr Gorilla	Sep 25th, 2008 04:10:31 AM
OK, this is just me, but I adored the role he played in DONNIE BRASCO. He was amazing in that film. But somehow, he has decided not to revisit that sort of role (NB bar his role in the new Michael Mann, which I think I'll like) and do - to my mind - rather too many of those 'child-like' characters. Now, when he does them with sensitivity - like Edward Scissorhands, or William Blake in Dead Man - it's wonderful. But enough with the Willy Wonka/Captain Jack shit. Please, enough! DEPP, YOU ARE A VERY TALENTED MAN! USE THAT TALENT!!!
Wofman Trailer by Madmacks	Sep 25th, 2008 05:26:00 AM
Hey I know it's off subject but does anybody know where I can find the Wolfman trailer that was screened at comic con? also when is Depp's Public Enemy's going to be released?
For the role of the Mad Hatter? by Half-Baked-Goggle-Box-Do-Gooder	Sep 25th, 2008 05:39:26 AM
Really. That should go to Timothy Spall. I mean, just LOOK at that ugly fucker! He's PERFECT!
Johnny Depp In A Tim Burton Film?! NO WAY! by LaserPants	Sep 25th, 2008 05:49:14 AM
WOW! Burton is really upsetting all our preconceived notions of his one-note, waning, faded, failing abilities at the edge of his career's dissolution.
Tim Burton made PLANET OF THE APES by Mr Gorilla	Sep 25th, 2008 05:55:42 AM
'Nuff said.
Piltdown Joey by RosebudsTheSled	Sep 25th, 2008 06:32:40 AM
Ok cool, I had the exact connection wrong between Green Hornet and Lone Ranger...but I do think its fascinating how concepts come around again(same way Indiana Jones and a Batman vs. Joker movie resurfaced after 19 years) Somewhere the creator of Green Hornet and Lone Ranger (George W. Trendle and Fran Striker) are smiling. Unfortunately two different companies have the rights here, so you can't really get away with a little reference...although here's an idea..cast SETH ROGEN AS LONE RANGER...he'd effectively be playing how own uncle (which I'm pretty sure how it was done on the old Radio Shows-same actor)
SETH ROGEN FOR THE LONE RANGER by RosebudsTheSled	Sep 25th, 2008 06:33:37 AM
It starts here!
depp by palewook	Sep 25th, 2008 06:44:32 AM
will be doing the same character as he played in willie wonka..
ah ha...thought so by Bouncy X	Sep 25th, 2008 07:10:27 AM
when the other disney story mentioned Depp as Tonto i thought to myself "i thought this site said he'd be the Ranger himself"..well now i know why so who's wrong? is Johnny the Tonto or the Ranger?
Tweedledum & Tweedledee by Cedar_Room	Sep 25th, 2008 07:21:31 AM
I'm pretty sure I heard Matt Lucas from Little Britain say he was going to be playin these parts (via the magic of CGI). But given that they don't appear in the Alices Adventures In Wonderland book (but in through the looking glass) are we to assume that this film is essentially a remake of the Disney cartoon?
Part Cherokee... okay.... by Kid Z	Sep 25th, 2008 07:26:04 AM
...but Depp is from the South. EVERYONE in the South always claims to be "part-Cherokee"! The Cherokee tribe will officially admit anyone who can prove to be even 1/16th Cherokee. And 1/16th ain't a whole lot of Cherokee, IMHO.
ok, first, everyone and their mom knows about the Mad Hatter... by LORDRANDO	Sep 25th, 2008 07:27:47 AM
So thats not an "announcement" and second....what the hell, Lone Ranger. I hope they keep it racist as to not upset purists. BOOOOOORING, uninspired, and I hope all these projects sink the house of mouse. Why dont they make movies of other shit from the past? Oh wait, they are running out of shit from the past. Thats why they are trying to make shit from the past seem new. God Almighty, please give us some ORIGINAL films!!!!!
next someone will cast ... by RockLobster800	Sep 25th, 2008 07:38:35 AM
Kevin Dunn as a dad in one of their flicks....I just assumed the guy would be the Hatter and here we are...it would have been cool if you got Michael Keaton to do it, with a bit of Beetlejuice shining through. Or maybe I jst want a Michael Keaton career re-launch...but so far this seems predictable and like most recent Burton flicks, it'll be good, fun yet not spectacular...
Depp as the Lone Ranger? Wasn't Mark Valley available? by Leafar the Lost	Sep 25th, 2008 07:57:50 AM
I kid, because I love. Johnny Depp can play any character he wants. Whatever role it is, he will be prefect and kick ass. Cast him as the Green Hornet, the Shadow, and Lex Luther too.
Have two Lone Rangers by skimn	Sep 25th, 2008 09:04:48 AM
ala Lee Marvin in Cat Ballou. A drunken soused one, and a one-eyed badass other. Depp could play the hell out of both. Hell, just remake Cat Ballou, no one remembers the original. Except they'd cast Lindsey Lohan...I'd go with Allison Lohman.
Bruce Campbell as the Lone Ranger by Fart King	Sep 25th, 2008 09:29:01 AM
You're welcome.
Kato vs Tonto by dr_buggerlugs	Sep 25th, 2008 09:45:01 AM
So 2010 is going to be the year of the sidekick deconstruction? Can't wait!
Depp is Tonto? Who the fuck cares? by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Sep 25th, 2008 09:48:59 AM
That is the most uninteresting news I've heard in about 10 months.
What's Peter DeLuise by The Brains	Sep 25th, 2008 10:04:09 AM
doin'?
This is all fine and good, but we want info about... by Ingeld	Sep 25th, 2008 10:08:58 AM
THE HOBBIT! There has been no real cool news about it. THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! Who is being cast? THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! What is the script like? THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! Concept art? THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! CGI news? Anything! THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT!
the hobbit? id rather know nothing actually. by Obscura	Sep 25th, 2008 10:17:14 AM
nothing would please me more than it to come out of nowhere and amaze us all.
Sweeney Todd was flat out dull. by Knobules	Sep 25th, 2008 10:49:49 AM
Not sure what happened there but the thing just got tedious as can be. And for cryin out loud can Bonham Carter do any flick without that nightmare pubic hair fiasco on her head.
Sweeney Todd. by The Brains	Sep 25th, 2008 10:57:28 AM
I liked the story and the songs. Just not together.
Paul Reubens would make a PERFECT mad hatter! by The Ghost of Marcus Brody	Sep 25th, 2008 11:17:11 AM
fuck tim burton.
"Depp is part Cherokee" by kiddae	Sep 25th, 2008 11:35:59 AM
Haha, nice, so any complaints about the character being played by a guy who is ostensibly white are void then, yes? It's funny, fanboys can whine their pelvises loose about Beyonce playing Lois Lane or whatever, but white guys are allowed to play whoever they want. First person to say "PC" is a cunt.
Depp's Tonto by Forsakyn	Sep 25th, 2008 11:38:39 AM
According to the voices in my head, Depp is doing his interpretation of Tonto... In Depp's interpretation, Tonto is actually a Caucasian who thinks he's Indian, and was raised by wolves (that partied a lot) near some indians. He designed his own indian costume from thrown away garments, and while it comes across as rather patchy and effeminate, it's Depp's spiked hair that really sells his version of Tonto. He also has an unusual walk as it's part-wolf and part-human - some might think it looks gay, but they're just homophobic! Finally, he has an addiction to fire water, but this is mostly played for laughs (and tastefully done) as to not offend any Indian viewers. Did I mention his Tonto also slurs his delivery when speaking?
Depp as Alice by Thunderbolt Ross	Sep 25th, 2008 11:59:28 AM
That would be more entertaining.
Tonto means "wild one" by Thunderbolt Ross	Sep 25th, 2008 12:02:36 PM
in Tonto's tribe's language. How amazing would it be if Brando were still alive - fat, old, nutso - to play this legendary role?
Depp as Lee Tamahori by The Brains	Sep 25th, 2008 12:09:06 PM

Tim Burton and Disney by sapno_krei	Sep 25th, 2008 12:13:15 PM
I think it's awesome that Burton is not "above" making movies for his alma mater, Disney. In the early years of his career, there seemed to be a discord between his artisitic sensibilities and Disney's, so he left. Later, his NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS was a big hit for Disney, but it by no means signalled a long-term collaboration. Now, it looks like he's back in the Disney fold. I guess he trusts his vision to work anywhere, and he doesn't care about being perceived as selling out. Can't wait for ALICE.
caruso_stalker217 - Interesting. Didn't know that by finky089	Sep 25th, 2008 12:38:13 PM
Always thought MJF didn't really fit in that role. Not that it nec was any more "fitting" for Depp, either. In fact, the whole movie is pretty "un-Burton" except for the Martians and the stuff they do.
Charlie and Sweeney Todd were great IMO by performingmonkey	Sep 25th, 2008 01:18:05 PM
Apes is his only out-and-out bad movie. If only we had got to see the potential Cameron/Schwarzenegger version.
Couldn't be any worse than Charlie... by Flip63Hole	Sep 25th, 2008 01:33:56 PM
Willy Wonka did not need to be remade. Still, don't have a good feeling about this...
Why Are People Complaining? Or Surprised? by Frodo T. Baggins	Sep 25th, 2008 02:00:49 PM
Mad Hatter Isnt A HUGE Role. It Would Be Nice To See Depp In A Smaller Part. I DO Agree With Helen Bonner Farter Being Over-Rated & Just Weird To Look At. She Will Prolly Be The Queen. Which Is Like..Type Casting? Shes A Weird Ugly Lil Thing
Fuck American McGee's by Boo Cocky	Sep 25th, 2008 02:13:28 PM
Alice in Wonderland. I'd much prefer Assy McGee's version.
A few thoughts: by jimmay	Sep 25th, 2008 02:17:34 PM
One: It's sad to see the day when Johnny Depp and Tim Burton--previously two of Hollywood's most unconventional and interesting artists--have become utterly predictable. Two: I'm noting all the "Paul Ruebens would be the best Mad Hatter evah!" comments, and find them just as quixotic and groundless as the claims that Crispin Glover would have made the perfect Joker or Willy Wonka. Three: I knew it was coming, but the Lone Ranger movie is going to be damn near impossible to make convincing. Pirates are easy, people like Pirates; but cowboys haven't been cool since the early sixties. Good luck, Disney.
Thomas Jane, Aaron Eckhart or Josh Holloway as Lone Ranger! by RobertBaron	Sep 25th, 2008 02:21:31 PM
In case it doesn't fit... Thomas Jane, Aaron Eckhart or Josh Holloway as Lone Ranger!
What about Paul Reubens as the Riddler? by RobertBaron	Sep 25th, 2008 02:22:38 PM
That'd be pretty cool
This just in! Depp as Hitler in Inglorious Bastards by Stuntcock Mike	Sep 25th, 2008 02:24:59 PM
Why not?
Any Pictures or Video? by BojTrek	Sep 25th, 2008 02:57:49 PM
Are there any pictures or video of Depp in Sparrow costume coming out to "Tonto" everyone?
I haven't been excited about a Tim Burton movie for a while by hallmitchell	Sep 25th, 2008 03:11:29 PM
And I'm still not. Alice in Wonderland. Do we really need another version?
same movie different title by livingwater	Sep 25th, 2008 03:49:54 PM
I wish he'd leave his Gothic Americanization away from this children's classic and do something else.
Sweeney was good....Charlie = ABSOLUTE SHIT by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Sep 25th, 2008 03:56:32 PM

Depp as Hitler, I would pay to see by samurai sark	Sep 25th, 2008 04:00:35 PM
Tonto should be Colin Farrell. They should fuck in the movie.
Depp should play every role in The Lone Ranger... by Forsakyn	Sep 25th, 2008 04:12:26 PM
Except for his horse Silver, which would be CGI and voiced by Eddie Murphy.
Helena NOT the queen... by Fleet	Sep 25th, 2008 05:54:57 PM
...She's much better suited to the woman with the screaming baby that turns into a pig... Pepper, is it? Makes more sense if they're looking to cast "names" in smaller, cameo roles.

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