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by Leafy McPlantsalot
Sep 18th, 2008
07:07:27 PM
..and now my life has meaning.
by Leafy McPlantsalot
Sep 18th, 2008
07:07:51 PM
Looks fascinating
by Zeegloo
Sep 18th, 2008
07:11:54 PM
I can't wait!
Catherine Keener...
by Harold-Sherbort
Sep 18th, 2008
07:13:51 PM
....mmmmmmm. She's a great actress, and totally smokin hot!!! That scene where she's fucking John Malkovich in Being J.M., is definitly a slow-mo worthy moment. Oh yeah, this movie looks really good too.
brett ratner in talks for conan remakeboot
by ironic_name
Sep 18th, 2008
07:19:39 PM
http://tinyurl.com/4ac5lt
it will be interesting to see
by prunkhaft
Sep 18th, 2008
07:27:20 PM
if Kaufman is as good a director as he is a writer. The trailer confused me a little, but I'd imagine it's difficult to streamline a Kaufman story into an effective trailer.
when is it in theatres?
by MrSundayNight
Sep 18th, 2008
07:37:34 PM
hilarious? really?
by bluebottle
Sep 18th, 2008
07:38:00 PM
"charming", "humorous", "whimsical" but "hilarious?"... maybe i'm on the wrong side of high right now, but it doesn't look "hilarious".
prunkhaft
by mattvideo
Sep 18th, 2008
07:50:58 PM
in this case, any confusion in the trailer is because the movie itself is by its purposeful nature confusing. I'd say that that's an excellent 2.5 minute version of what you're going to be in for when you see it. Synecdoche can't be pinned down by conventional narrative. It's a masterpiece, because of its confusing and confounding brilliance.
Poor Tom Noonan.
by JediRob
Sep 18th, 2008
07:53:23 PM
Gets the shaft on the cast list.
Tom Noonan rocks.
Charlie Kaufman rules all.
by DarthCorleone
Sep 18th, 2008
08:16:53 PM
Sort of sad that his lack of name-recognition still demands "from the writer of..."
Synecdoche and metonymy
by Octaveaeon
Sep 18th, 2008
08:19:25 PM
Ha ha, now I think I get why Kaufman is so neurotic. And I totally understand. Existence, or the experience of 'being', IS the result of rhetorical tropes. Which is kinda confronting when you're a writer.

[Tropes — Rhetorical figures of thought that change meaning by changing the way something is named or identified. Opposed to schemes, which rearrange the order of words, tropes change the meaning of words, often creating new meanings. Metaphor, the trope in which one thing is substituted for another, is considered the master trope. Other tropes include hyperbole (exaggeration), synecdoche (substituting the part for the whole or the whole for the part), metonymy (replacing an object with one of its attributes), and periphrasis (circumlocution).]

CK quips: "I'd be happy to get half the Dark Knight's audience"
by BrandLoyalist
Sep 18th, 2008
08:35:08 PM
(Heh heh) He said that in the Wired interview Beaks posted the other day. Have listened to the 1st hour so far.

Tantalizing tidbit from the interview: he said that the ending of Being John Malkovich was not what he originally had in mind, and that the scene where the Captain explains the portal to Lotte was pretty much written to enable that ending. Must be talking about the concept of going in too early and ending up a helpless passenger... I would really like to know what the original idea was (he didn't mention it).
That doesn't look funny at all....
by The Dum Guy
Sep 18th, 2008
08:42:43 PM
Mildly amusing, and interesting, yes. Funny... I don't think so.
re:: BrandLoyalist
by The Dum Guy
Sep 18th, 2008
08:54:54 PM
I'm not sure what draft I read, but when I read the script to Malkovich, it ended with Cusak's character having a duel with Satan using huge (I think 50 ft tall) marienettes (sp?) to see who was the better puppeteer.
Yuppy Yup
by Maceox
Sep 18th, 2008
08:56:10 PM
I there day one. Bring on the Trope.
Had NO interest reading about this...
by MetalMickey
Sep 18th, 2008
08:59:22 PM
..the past several months. After seeing that, it looks to be one the first classics of the 21st century. Tom Noonan! Dianne Wiest! Good on ya, Charlie.
TY The Dum Guy
by BrandLoyalist
Sep 18th, 2008
09:24:10 PM
Pretty crazy. He did offhandedly refer to "the guy who controlled Lester, the devil" during that part of the interview. It was Spike Jonez who wanted to change the ending, but as long as I'm posting about this, I think I should point out that it's not like Kaufmann sounded bitter or angry about it; he spoke of their collaborative process, and indeed he said he liked a lot of the stuff that happened at the end of the movie.
"Well...my uncle thought he was St. Jerome..."
by BadMrWonka
Sep 18th, 2008
10:10:54 PM
anybody? anybody?
its not a comedy
by kgerm
Sep 18th, 2008
11:04:41 PM
the script has been online for almost a year. it's dark and bleak and just like every other kaufman film except the weirdness is way up. it'll be really cool to see though cos a lot of people won't be into this.
i would not describe that trailer as
by frankenfickle
Sep 18th, 2008
11:19:39 PM
"hilarious". i would describe it as melancholy.
He should get Seth Green
by kikuchiyoboy
Sep 18th, 2008
11:31:40 PM
to follow him around and play him.

Anyways, can't wait.
Happy Gilmore's Grandma!
by Crow3711
Sep 18th, 2008
11:39:15 PM
Where's she been? I figured she was dead. Nice to see she isn't.
Original Malkovich Ending
by mrbscribe
Sep 19th, 2008
12:02:18 AM
Here you go Brand, I was at a writer's guild conference where Kaufman spoke a few yers back. Remember the orientation video Craig watches on his first day of work? The one with the midget? Well, remember the voiceover line-- "He would call this building the Mertin-Flemmer Building, after himself and someone else, who, local legend has it, was named Flemmer..." Well, it turns out Flemmer is the devil. Mr Lester made a deal with the devil for the portal. When the devil finds out it's being abused by Craig, he challengs him to a puppeteering duel (with the devil taking the form of The Great Mantini) where if Craig wins he gets to keep the portal but if the devil wins mankind will be enslaved. The devil wins. Mankind becomes enslaved. The end. You're welcome.
re: Wonka
by The Dum Guy
Sep 19th, 2008
12:08:34 AM
Venkman?
you're crazy
by Jack D. Ripper
Sep 19th, 2008
12:13:20 AM
if you think those actresses are hot. Davis is kinda cute, Keener has something about her despite being objectively ugly and Morton has a hot body, but to call any of them 'hot' is frankly ridiculous.
Saw this in Toronto
by frozenhamster
Sep 19th, 2008
12:23:06 AM
It really is great. It's basically Kaufman to the extreme. Very funny, but also very dark and often quite depressing. It's essentially the story of a man who spends his life always fearing the end instead of truly living it.
Dianne Weist!
by dogstardude
Sep 19th, 2008
09:25:04 AM
Awesome. She's definately one of most underrated actresses out there. Nobody has ever used her as well as Woody Allen...
ooooohhh...how pretentious.
by thelivingdoll
Sep 19th, 2008
11:40:23 AM
This will play quite well to the head-up-their-own-ass crowd. Not so well to everyone else.
I WANT TO BANG CATHERINE KEENER
by SpreadLegsNotWar
Sep 19th, 2008
01:33:46 PM
And lick her cobwebbed snatcherino.
AND OSCAR-BAIT MOVIES LICK MY BALLS
by SpreadLegsNotWar
Sep 19th, 2008
01:34:19 PM
Michael Bay FTW bitches!
Does who Charlie Kaufman is really need spelling out to us?
by PaulSC
Sep 19th, 2008
01:58:40 PM
I mean, I thought this was supposed to be a site aimed at film fans - what self-respecting film fan hasn't seen at least three of the movies he wrote?
this may be the first
by oisin5199
Sep 19th, 2008
02:10:26 PM
non-superhero, scifi movie I'll pay money to see in the theatre in a long time. A few of those trailer moments almost made me gasp - especially the one about 'when are we going to get an audience' - as a former theatre practitioner who still (literally) dreams about the theatre, even though I haven't even seen a play in years, this got to me. Looks like an incredible script and cast. Looking forward to it.
Oisin5199!
by Octaveaeon
Sep 19th, 2008
03:53:23 PM
Nice to see you here, and in this thread.

Guess what, I just finished reading Promethea, and you were right: I loved it. I knew that I would as soon as I saw in the beginning that Moore was using Hermes and Thoth to initiate the Promethea legend. And, as fate would have it, I've been reading Derrida's 'Plato's Pharmacy' where he also mentions the role of Hermes/Thoth as the pharmakon of writing underlying the Platonic dialogues. He even mentions that pharmakos also signifies 'magician', 'wizard', or 'poisoner', and that Plato even calls Socrates a pharmakeus (synonym of 'pharmakos') in his dialogues!

Dum Guy
by BadMrWonka
Sep 19th, 2008
06:26:28 PM
close...what's the link from Ghostbusters to this trailer though?
how do pronounce Synecdoche?
by Cap'n Jack
Sep 19th, 2008
09:17:28 PM
"Sinek-dohi" according to Wikipedia
by The Dum Guy
Sep 19th, 2008
10:07:58 PM
But, soon to be "Sin-eek-douche".

Wonka , I give up. Both take place in New York, and neither one has a lesbian sex scene featuring Jessica Biel and Jessica Alba.
Even his radio play is awesome
by fisheater
Sep 20th, 2008
10:07:37 AM
Have a google for it, he wrote it about 1 or 2 yrs ago. It followed a Coen bros play as well. Adaptation was brilliant, Eternal was pretty good, commercial. Whatever he writes its funny, moving and confusing as all hell
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