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Awww Hell Yeah! Will Smith Is Not Captain America!

hey... by Srikar	Sep 9th, 2008 12:00:21 AM
first?
I took it w/ a grain of salt, anyways by Jackie Boy	Sep 9th, 2008 12:00:36 AM
but it's nice that it's confirmed, I suppose
Whew by DKT	Sep 9th, 2008 12:00:36 AM
I was worried there for a second
Thank goodness. by Banzai Rootskibango	Sep 9th, 2008 12:02:26 AM
That being said...I nominate Brad Pitt.
Yeah...they're gonna offer him THOR instead. by Banzai Rootskibango	Sep 9th, 2008 12:03:20 AM
Batshit fuckheads.
Good News!! by guido505	Sep 9th, 2008 12:03:40 AM
While I like Will Smith and all, this was the biggest "WTF?!?!" casting rumor I've heard in a while. Glad it was just that...a rumor.
Fuck you, Derek Luke. by Darth Sticky	Sep 9th, 2008 12:03:46 AM
Fuck you rotten.
Aw Hell Naw! by chrth	Sep 9th, 2008 12:05:51 AM

"we don't need to be confused, angry and scared about it anymore by chrth	Sep 9th, 2008 12:06:39 AM
I never was, because I never overreact to rumor. (I know, I know, a foreign concept to this site. Thought I'd bring it up, though)
Wait a sec... by PAC-MAN	Sep 9th, 2008 12:11:18 AM
I thought Will Smith was already slated to play Thor!?!
Kevin McKidd for THOR; Brad Pitt for CAP by MetalMickey	Sep 9th, 2008 12:11:41 AM
re: Will Smiff Hey, we should have one of these casting false alarms every slow news day!
Cher as Captain America! by beetlegeuse	Sep 9th, 2008 12:12:35 AM
Johnny Depp as Bucky!
I don't think it's that bad an idea. by JonQuixote	Sep 9th, 2008 12:18:09 AM
I guess race comes into play a bit too much with Captain America (and America) for it to be more than an "alternate" take on Captain America (instead of merely a color blind one). Really though, it's interesting casting. Smith would play a good Captain America, if he was willing to play Captain America and not Will Smith's Captain America, (aww hell no, Red Skull. I know you didn't just tie MY sidekick to no rocket). *** I'd go see it.
That said, the best comic book character for Will Smith to play by JonQuixote	Sep 9th, 2008 12:18:57 AM
... Hal Jordan.
Steve Buscemi by IForgotAbout19	Sep 9th, 2008 12:19:51 AM
As Cap. Or Andre 3000?
Will Smith as Steve Buscemi by IForgotAbout19	Sep 9th, 2008 12:20:20 AM
As Cap.
Confused, Angry and Scared? by DeathShrike	Sep 9th, 2008 12:21:12 AM
I don't know why you should have been "confused, angry and scared about it" at all. "Confused angry and scared" that they might cast a black man as Captain America?Plot wise, it would work fine. I'm not buying that argument AT ALL. Somebody explain to me how this is NOT racist.
THOR and CAP by The Bandit	Sep 9th, 2008 12:24:32 AM
McKidd was born to play THOR and if anybody else gets the part I'll cry. Watch one episode of Rome (which is very sadly missed) and youll agree. As for CAP, Pitt? I actually like Pitt, but it wouldnt work. I think itd be a case of the actor over powering the role. Like he may be a cool Cap but the whole time hes on screen he would be taking you out of the film, you couldnt willfully suspend your disbelief. Itd just be hey look at Brad Pitt. Fuck the gripes about age I've heard, I think Eckhart would be great. And really...at this point and time I cant see a better fit than him. But hey, they could do much worse than Brad.
THOR and CAP by The Bandit	Sep 9th, 2008 12:25:48 AM
McKidd was born to play THOR and if anybody else gets the part I'll cry. Watch one episode of Rome (which is very sadly missed) and youll agree. As for CAP, Pitt? I actually like Pitt, but it wouldnt work. I think itd be a case of the actor over powering the role. Like he may be a cool Cap but the whole time hes on screen he would be taking you out of the film, you couldnt willfully suspend your disbelief. Itd just be hey look at Brad Pitt. Fuck the gripes about age I've heard, I think Eckhart would be great. And really...at this point and time I cant see a better fit than him. But hey, they could do much worse than Brad.
Here are the choices for STEVE ROGERS by Bumpasses Dawg	Sep 9th, 2008 12:26:14 AM
Who is of course, the only real Cap... Aaron Eckhardt, Thomas Jane, or Mark Valley. One of those three would be perfect.
The power of the AICN talkback.... by The Eskimo	Sep 9th, 2008 12:29:38 AM
....rears its ugly head once again. The Knowles knows!
22nd by kirttrik	Sep 9th, 2008 12:32:28 AM
I think
Jean Claude Van Damme = Captain America by kirttrik	Sep 9th, 2008 12:35:11 AM
actually, I wonder if Matt Damon will be ask for this? Just a thought, he's a bit short though.
and fuck MTV too by kafka07	Sep 9th, 2008 12:35:17 AM
Even though Derek Luke came up with the lie, MTV put that retardedness on their site to try to legitimize it.
What happened to the "Buzzkill" rant & policy that this site was by Speed Fricassee	Sep 9th, 2008 12:35:49 AM
I see that didn't last too long. I'm not surprised, though. Still, you dorks shoulda seen through this ignorant rumor before you even posted it.
Brad Pitt or Matt Damon would both be good by kirttrik	Sep 9th, 2008 12:37:11 AM
If they want to get a Super Star actor to play the role. Maybe they should try and get a good Television actor.
Tom Jane for CAP? by MetalMickey	Sep 9th, 2008 12:38:02 AM
Too clean-cut for The Punisher, just right for Cap. I could imagine him leading a platoon into German lines.
We weren't suprised confused and angry. by V'Shael	Sep 9th, 2008 12:38:44 AM
We know bullshit when we smell it. Unlike you guys running this site, apparently. Jesus Christ guys, how fucking retarded does a rumour have to be, before you decide "You know what? This is pure shit. Let's not post it." ???
Choices by kafka07	Sep 9th, 2008 12:41:35 AM
Eckhart is an awesome actor but a bit too old to play cap, and has not proven himself to be a physical action hero yet. He's a bit too tall and lanky. Thomas Jane is great too but I still haven't gotten over the hangover and dry heaves leftover from the Punisher. But hell your choices are better than mine cause I got none. Marvel's got lots of choices though just like Sarah Palin's daughter.
Tom Jane for CAP? by MetalMickey	Sep 9th, 2008 12:41:56 AM
Too clean-cut for The Punisher, just right for Cap. I could imagine him leading a platoon into German lines.
It's sad people here are defending it. by Chief Joseph	Sep 9th, 2008 12:45:15 AM
It's sad that people here are still defending the now debunked casting. It was a horrible idea in the first place and I laugh at those that use the played-out "racist" line. It's sad that people have to begin their sentence with "I'm not a racist" when saying that Will Smith would make a lousy Captain America. He didn't even make a good "Hancock".
Hate to say it cause it makes ME feel old... by The Eskimo	Sep 9th, 2008 12:45:38 AM
...but B Pitt is too old for this part. It has to be an A list actor though to keep in line w/Iron Man's success on the shoulders of R.D. Jr. So I nominate (drum role please)Owen Wilson. Any takers?
Isn't It Annoying That All The Actors Suitable For The Part by TroutMaskReplicant	Sep 9th, 2008 12:46:18 AM
Are about ten years too old? I suppose that's one of the problems with graphic fiction as opposed to text fiction. People know what Captain America, Superman et cetera should look like.
Speed... by TheRealMoriarty	Sep 9th, 2008 12:48:24 AM
... um, no one ever ever EVER said we wouldn't run rumors. Nor is the BUZZKILL column meant to replace all rumors ever. I never even said all rumors are bad. It's amazing how far off the handle some people flew over that. If Harry hadn't run this, I was going to write up a BUZZKILL tonight, since I got several Marvel sources to confirm that this is untrue. I'd run one to dispel the Johny Depp/Philip Seymour Hoffman rumors... BUT I ALREADY DID... and yet, the rumors continue in a miserable echo chamber of stupid. That's why that column exists... to kill rumors that we are being e-mailed over and over and over that are patently false.
The voice is important. by V'Shael	Sep 9th, 2008 12:50:09 AM
More so than the look or the muscles, which can be beefed up by the suit. Cap has a voice that can command a god. If he sounds like a hick, it won't work.
Just make Cap CG by kirttrik	Sep 9th, 2008 12:50:42 AM
the whole character in and out of the costume, just make him CG. Everyone else can be real, but he needs to be CG.
damn by disfigurehead	Sep 9th, 2008 12:50:58 AM
I was hoping for a Cap with cute catch-phrases.
Confused, angry, scared... by ebonic_plague	Sep 9th, 2008 12:51:39 AM
...the usual comic book/political movie talkback, then?
Smith would be bad because he flat out couldnt play it by IndustryKiller!	Sep 9th, 2008 12:53:51 AM
How he convinced the world that he's this brilliant thespian with horrible films like Hancock, I Robot, and I Am Legend in his recent filmography is a mystery wrapped in a riddle. The guy has no artistic integrity whatsoever, I don't give a shit how much money his shitty movies make. He's literally the biggest box office draw on Earth and he could get any project molded to his specification and what does he do? He takes everything that is worthwhile about properties and turns them into toothless exercises in narcissism in which he gets to play the coolest/most badass person on Earth. I mean look at I Am Legend, where he was the brilliant scientist who also happens to be immune and incredibly bad ass, give me a fucking break. I swear he makes movies just so he can watch them later and masturbate. Moreover he plays the same annoying guy in every one of them. He has a few departures where he was alright, but nowhere near justifying his popularity.
My penis needs to be CG. by kirttrik	Sep 9th, 2008 12:54:25 AM
That would make, a girl, potentially happy.
Toughest casting in the Marvel Universe by hallmitchell	Sep 9th, 2008 12:58:24 AM
Is Captain America and Thor. I really don't know who go for. How about Ben Affleck for Cap. and Tyler Mane as Thor.
I kinda liked the idea... by Gilkuliehe	Sep 9th, 2008 01:05:15 AM
Seriously, I can't think of any actor that yells AMERICAN as much as Will Smith. Probably Tom Hanks, dressed as an astronaut eating apple pie. (Vern rocks, doesn't he?) And didn't they cast Vincent D'Onofrio as Thor? No, I won't take that back.
Bulwyf from 13th Warrior = Thor. by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Sep 9th, 2008 01:06:52 AM
Thor should be Scandinavian, or at least with a northern European look is essential. A Norse accent is REQUIRED. How about
Kiefer Sutherland as Captain America... Hmmm by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Sep 9th, 2008 01:13:07 AM
Yeah, strange idea, but he has gravitas. He could be a post war WWII vet suddenly in a post 9-11 world. There's a chance at something socially conscious and culturally important could occur if everything is done just right. You know, enlighten the populace about being vet, from the killing to the pain and feelings of ostracism. Something dark, but the hope for peace, worldwide and personal, is the driving force of the movie.
So that explains Hancock... by PotSmokinAlien	Sep 9th, 2008 01:14:05 AM
"Will, you can either have this half-baked shitshow as your franchise for the next 4 years, or you can be part of the DC universe. Your call, big guy." Thanks, Scientology!
What's a good Captain America Graphic Novel? by kirttrik	Sep 9th, 2008 01:14:25 AM
I'm not really familiar with any of them. Does anyone have any suggestions?
~~~~~~GIVE US ISAIAH BRADLEY!~~~~~~ by The Marquis de Side 3	Sep 9th, 2008 01:23:31 AM
I could actually see them doing the "FIRST AVENGER: CAPTAIN AMERICA" film with both the Steve Rogers and Isaiah Bradley characters. JUST THINK OF IT! All this talk about the price for freedom and the cost it takes for so-called leaders of the "free world" we hear in today's times, with the Iraq War and all... there's a lot of material here from the newspapers, history and the graphic novel "TRUTH: WED WHITE AND BLACK". If this film could put Steve Rogers face to face with Isaiah Bradley and realize the horrible truth about how they experimented on black men to perfect the super soldier serum... now THAT would put the moral ambiguity and story-telling on the level of "THE DARK KNIGHT". At what point does "democracy" stop becoming about standing up for good and start becoming a sham? Because it's all well and good if the film is set in World War Two and Steve Rogers is whooping Nazi butt... but if he does that and meets the black Captain America and realizes what crimes his country committed to gain the super sodier serum... THAAAAAAT'S WAY MORE INTERESTING! =0)
~~~~~~GIVE US ISAIAH BRADLEY!~~~~~~ by The Marquis de Side 3	Sep 9th, 2008 01:23:53 AM
I'll say it again! =0)
~~~~~~GIVE US ISAIAH BRADLEY!~~~~~~ by The Marquis de Side 3	Sep 9th, 2008 01:24:06 AM
ONE MO' TIME! =0)
~~~~~~RED! not WED!~~~~~~ by The Marquis de Side 3	Sep 9th, 2008 01:24:59 AM
sorry, typo =0(
Kirttrik by blindambition238	Sep 9th, 2008 01:25:36 AM
Ed Brubaker's run from the last few years which is just finishing up has been pretty well regarded by casual fans and aficionados alike. They just came out with a massive hardcover collection of the first 2 years of his stories I believe.Amazon it or check for it at Borders.
Once again, I nominate Jamie Bamber for Cap! by blindambition238	Sep 9th, 2008 01:28:49 AM
He has the look, build, and the experience playing the military action man/ idealist. He just needs to get a voice coach to butch up his voice a bit more.
Thanks blindambition238 by kirttrik	Sep 9th, 2008 01:31:40 AM
I'll check it out.
not racist by a rolling stone	Sep 9th, 2008 01:39:07 AM
I don't think Will Smith shouldn't play Captain America because he's black- I don't think he should play him because he's "not" Capt. America in the way Jack Black is "not" Green Lantern and Ben Afleck is "not" Daredevil.
WILL SMITH WOULD SUCK AS ISAIAH BRADLEY by Cannabis Holocaust	Sep 9th, 2008 01:43:37 AM
Will Smith sucks ass in every movie I've ever had the displeasure of seeing him in. I was hoping this guy's career was over after The Wild Wild West. That being said, I wouldn't mind at all if they incorporated the Isaiah Bradley story in a sub-plot, sequel, spin-off, etc. just as long as they get an actor worth 2 shits. But a CAPTAIN AMERICA movie should feature STEVE ROGERS. Not Isaiah Bradley, not the Winter Soldier in a Captain America costume, it should feature motherfucking STEVE ROGERS. End of story.
I'M NOT RACIST OR NOTHIN... by Prague23	Sep 9th, 2008 01:45:19 AM
But Will Smith as Captain America is like Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury. Um, REVERSE racism there? I know, we'll cast Tom Cruse as Al Simmons in the new Spawn film!
Samuel Jackson as Nick Fury is reverse racism.. by AnakinsDiapers	Sep 9th, 2008 01:53:31 AM
..god i love talkback, it's sooo special.
Will Smith for the part of Squirrel Girl! by Dingbatty	Sep 9th, 2008 02:00:51 AM
Great Lakes Avengers on the big screen!
Aw Hell Yeah by Frodo T. Baggins	Sep 9th, 2008 02:01:30 AM
He would and could be good. Just not available for all what Marvel fans and film would demand.
Seriously, though, by Dingbatty	Sep 9th, 2008 02:03:16 AM
"Cap has a voice that can command a god"? Let's check Wiki...Steve Rogers grew up in the early part of the 20th century in the Lower East Side of NYC, born to Irish immigrants. Now what would that dialect/accent sound like??
Brad Pitt Already Had A Shield. And He Failed by Frodo T. Baggins	Sep 9th, 2008 02:03:59 AM

Who cares when AVATAR is fucking our eyeballs in 2009 ?!! by Motoko Kusanagi	Sep 9th, 2008 02:04:59 AM
nobody
Jett Garner for Captain America by Frodo T. Baggins	Sep 9th, 2008 02:05:24 AM

who cares... by dingus khan	Sep 9th, 2008 02:05:45 AM
...if will smith does play captain america? it's not like captain america has a big enough fan following to piss people off if the studios actually went for some kind of non-traditional casting. you guys are just bitchin' to bitch. seriously, will smith is as good a choice as any. (brad pitt ain't doin' it). will smith is as american as false proclamations of supporting diversity.
sorry. by dingus khan	Sep 9th, 2008 02:07:46 AM
that was heavy-handed. i do apologize. but, will smith for president!!!
Will Smith to play Obama ? by Miyamoto_Musashi	Sep 9th, 2008 02:09:23 AM

Paul Walker as CAP!!! by TheGhostWhoLurks	Sep 9th, 2008 02:09:40 AM
He's 34, knows kung-fu and Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, is blond and has an American accent. And he can act... kinda. Plus, he'd be an "in" to convince Vin to play the Red Skull. :)
dumb rumor to begin with by Rupee88	Sep 9th, 2008 02:09:41 AM
but you got two "stories" out of it I guess
God Dammit by ledbetter51	Sep 9th, 2008 02:12:36 AM
There's no such thing as "reverse racism." Racism is racism no matter what race it's aimed at or whether race is used as a basis for a positive or negative judgement. Racism is like a palindrome - when you reverse it it's still just plain racism.
Changing Fury for the Ultimates was fine, by Dingbatty	Sep 9th, 2008 02:15:51 AM
as Nick's head was always indistinguishable from Reed Richards or Doctor Strange, apart from the eyepatch. But I can so how someone who claims him as their favorite character would be irritated by departing from the iconic image in the movies. But Sam'll do just fine, in my estimation. Now, the thing that bugs me -- in a purist sense -- is that they are probably not going to have Nick having been kicking around since WWII. It would be cool to see him in Cap's film during the War with the Howling Commandos, and later in the 60's as a superspy (you'd think they'd might want a spin-off series for him, perhaps to compete with Warner's/DC's Sgt. Rock flick. The first one could be WWII, the second, 60's spies, the third, current day S.H.I.E.L.D. They'll probably just have Nick Fury be a legacy character like the Dread Pirate Roberts, because they'll claim that the Infinity formula that keeps him and his crew near immortal stretches the bounds of their "preter-reality," but I'd argue that the Iron Man suit, and The Hulk (especially), already strain the shared film universe toward fantasy (particularly when they include Thor), though they'll probably try to give it all an "Ultimates" bent instead of 616, which is regrettable (and also limits other characters/milieu from the Marvel U that they can crossover with their live-actioners).
Even my MOM knows Cap is White, Dingus! by TheGhostWhoLurks	Sep 9th, 2008 02:16:29 AM
The guy's been around since the 2nd World War, bud. Even if the average person doesn't know whether he's really Steve Rogers or Hal Jordan, two things the average American DOES know: (1)Capt. America dresses up in a flag... and (2)he's White. You put a Black man in the suit and even if they don't know WHY, the general public's subconscious will be going into convulsions muttering, "Wha...??? That ain't right...!" >:/ Many times, non-traditional is BAD. Leave Cap be.
"can see how" I meant to type. by Dingbatty	Sep 9th, 2008 02:17:11 AM

Will Smith is the Fresh Prince by Toby___Wong	Sep 9th, 2008 02:17:16 AM
and definitely not Captain America. David Boreanaz would be a great Captain America.
Cap can't be black, by vadakinX	Sep 9th, 2008 02:18:07 AM
I don't mean that in a racist way. As far as I'm concerned, Captain America needs to be a WWII movie with him being frozen at the end and being thawed after the initial credits to find Fury and Banner looking over him...I know exactly how I would do the scene...anyways, getting off topic here... WWII...early 1940s, deep segregation and racial hatred and not just in Germany. There is no way in hell the US Army would have given their top secret super soldier serum to a black guy...yes it's racist, but it's also a sign of the times. If Captain America is going to be a WWII movie, then it has to be as accurate as it can be with the period it's set in. While nobody would admit that race was a factor in picking someone to undergo the procedure, you can bet that it was on their minds. Now having a black Captain America who has to overcome racial hatred in order to win the respect of his troops while taking on the Red Skull, a Nazi who wouldn't have viewed him as being human...that would be a great story...but it wouldn't happen. The army, at that time, simply wouldn't have chosen a black guy to become the posterboy for the Allies war effort. I think Smith can do great work when he sets his mind to it, and there are certainly some comic book roles that I'd love to see him tackle both on the Marvel and DC side, but Captain America isn't one of them.
OMAR EPPS, THE POOR MAN'S WESLEY SNIPES WILL BE STARRING AS CAPT by phallix trebek	Sep 9th, 2008 02:18:40 AM

Gary Busey for CAPTAIN AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by Bob Cryptonight	Sep 9th, 2008 02:23:21 AM
You know you want it!!!!
Oh No Will Smith Might Be Captain America!! by p0llk4t	Sep 9th, 2008 02:27:41 AM
Wow look at all this sand in my vagina? Who cares you racist geeks!?
what the fuck are you smoking? by GavinVanDraven	Sep 9th, 2008 02:30:52 AM
Brad Pitt or Leo Dicaprio for Cap... ? or John Cena or Matt Damon....? Pitt is too old, Leo too small and Cena... too meathead. Damon is an ugly motherfucker. Paul Walker cant act. why cant you guys think outside a world where it has to be some blonde guy? ever hear of hair dye? i say Michael C. Hall of DEXTER. better choice than any of those guys. that is a great actor right there. the man looks the part, has great range and a solid build. Mike O'Hearn should be Thor. he is big as a truck, and too good looking to be a mere mortal.
Michael C Hall as Cap by GavinVanDraven	Sep 9th, 2008 02:32:00 AM
make it happen
Christian Bale as Blade in Blade 4 by Lloytron	Sep 9th, 2008 02:32:24 AM
That would be cool right? Also I heard they were making a Martin Luther King biopic starring Aaron Eckhart.
Mike O'Hearn for THOR by GavinVanDraven	Sep 9th, 2008 02:32:45 AM
make it happen
Hey IndustryKiller!...... by Kai_Mah'gra	Sep 9th, 2008 02:35:15 AM
.....you do realize that I am Legend was a remake of Omega Man with Charlton Heston playing the exact same character that Will Smith played (military scientist who happens to be immune to the plague, but who also happens to be a badass enough to survive the zombies all alone). In other words the role wasn't written to suit Will smith's particualar abilities, it was based on the pre-existing story that Charlton Heston's movie was also based on and which he also played. So bearing all this in mind, I'm trying for the life of me to figure out why you would consider Smith's portrayal of the exact same character that Heston played as the worst possible thing on earth whearas Heston gets a pass. Other than the fact that Smith's version made about a gazillion times more that Heston's movie, that is............ ........Oh yeah, I forgot; Smith is black and Heston is white. How stoopid of me to forget such an obvious fact. I think you need some more starch for your hood......it's leaning a little. Some bleach as well; we don't want any 'black' stains on there now, do we.....
BRAD BEYER by Dodgy	Sep 9th, 2008 02:38:15 AM
The farm hand from jericho. Look at him and tell me that's not Captain America> http://tinyurl.com/6x2a3c
Kai_Mah'gra, you're also forgetting... by TheGhostWhoLurks	Sep 9th, 2008 02:53:37 AM
That Charleton Heston was BELIEVABLE as a bad-ass, whereas Will Smith is basically just a jug-eared goof who's only a "bad-ass" because he's written that way in his films. "From my cold dead hands...!" THAT'S BAD-ASS! >:)
Captain America : what for? by La Frog	Sep 9th, 2008 02:55:05 AM
Given the fantastic popularity of America around the world these days, I'm sure the movie will fare great overseas, guys. Oh no wait. It won't be a one-sided patriotic superhero thing, but a film where Cap will face today's America with its contradictions and reinstall the greatness of those great American values that remains. By kicking bad neo-nazi's ass. That or he'll just go empty machine guns into muslims somewhere. I can't wait to see that. And by the way it's absurd to consider Will Smith to play the Captain America, as Will Smith is black! Will Smith would be the super cool Falcon, with his white and red vest. Or would that be too gay?
I Am Legend is based on a book Kai you fucking moron by IndustryKiller!	Sep 9th, 2008 03:11:23 AM
And it's a betrayal of that far better story. And for the record I've never even fucking seen the Omega man so how could I possibly be giving heston "a pass"? But thanks for crying wolf on the whole racism thing jackass, really raising the talkback bar.
don't by Moshi	Sep 9th, 2008 03:23:10 AM
A Captain America movie?! Don't do it. I'm embarressed at the mere thought of it. It's a prospect even worse than a Thor movie. Foresooth, I dost foresee a box office disaster ahead. Onwards to Valhalla.
Cap has to be young by David Cloverfield	Sep 9th, 2008 03:24:53 AM
Studios give characters like Supes to people barely out of the kindergarten. The only character that needs to be recruitment age is Cap, and we hear rumors and suggestions about men in their 40's. More interested in the director right now.
IndustryKiller by Kai_Mah'gra	Sep 9th, 2008 03:31:33 AM
....yeah, um, did you happen to notice where I mentioned anywhere in my post that it WASN'T based on a book? you dumb Jackass? Or was that just something your 'beautiful mind' hallucinated all on its lonesome? I said that I am Legend is a remake of Omega man. Which it is! Omega man was originally based on the novel. Which is true. Or at least still is. How the hell do any of those two statements equal me stating that it's not based on a book? Or do you just not know how to read complete sentences? And since you haven't seen Omega man, then how are you purporting to claim that Will Smith was doing the role any less justice than Heston did it, or that it was written as a narcissistic exercise of Will Smith the personna? For the record I HAVE actually watched both movies (unlike some) multiple times, and the major basic difference between the two is the fact that I am Legend is contextualized for the 21st Century whereas the Omega Man was a movie (although apocalyptic) still very well based and entrenched in the 1970's universe that it was written and produced in. As regards how Smith and Heston both play the title character Neville, they both played him exactly how he was written to be played. i.e. a bit of a scientific genius who happens to be a badass. That wasn't something that Will Smith just injected into the role because he's Will Smith; it's the way the character was written to be played you dumb moron. And that was my point. Hate Will Smith all you want, but don't blame your inability to tell the difference between how the role is supposed to be, and indeed is written to be played with what you tiny little infeiority-complex-infected mind deduces to be Will Smith's supposed air of arrogance. Nobody's crying wolf on anything, if you didn't know that that's how the character was written to be played (at least as per the previous movie it was remade from) then maybe you're not a racist;- you're only an ignorant douche, which, I suppose is only slightly better. Congratulations for that.
TheGhostWhoLurks........jealous much? by Kai_Mah'gra	Sep 9th, 2008 03:39:04 AM
.....both Will Smith and Charlton play (and played) characters written for them, who in most cases have nothing based on or to do with their real personalities. What's your point? ........at the end of the day, Will Smith is still going to take home more coin that you'll ever see in three of your lifetimes combined,(and of course more than 'bad-ass' Charlie Heston ever made singularly or cumulatively) sleep with his beautiful actress wife and fly between his mansions in his private jet. You, meanhile, stuck in neutral, in dead-end-job-land, reduced to lobbing grade school insults and snipes at the guy from somewhere-basement-land. I'm sure he's writhing in excruciating pain somewhere just thinking about that.
captain america should be played by a fat stupid texan by ironic_name	Sep 9th, 2008 04:21:02 AM

Kelsey by lord_zedd	Sep 9th, 2008 04:22:45 AM

Kelsey Grammer for Captain America! by lord_zedd	Sep 9th, 2008 04:23:37 AM
(I hit enter by accident up durr)
I need by nilskidoo	Sep 9th, 2008 04:27:41 AM
a cigarette.
HARRY KNOWLES as Captain America by CarmillaVonDoom	Sep 9th, 2008 04:39:44 AM
Moriarty as Red Skull, Quint as Bucky. There, all done.
Herc can be Black Widow by CarmillaVonDoom	Sep 9th, 2008 04:40:32 AM
You know he wants to. ☺
Men In Black by kwisatzhaderach	Sep 9th, 2008 04:40:55 AM
was Will Smith's last watchable film.
Someone has to play the "before," puny Steve. by Dingbatty	Sep 9th, 2008 05:36:28 AM

Okay, here's how it might go down with the storylines.... by Chishu_Ryu	Sep 9th, 2008 05:59:47 AM
If they do indeed go with the WWII Steve Rogers Capt America, he'll "die" at the end of the film, frozen in some glacier on a mountainside or purposefully by the gov't. He'll be reborn in the new Avengers movie, which is probably why Nick Fury and Tony Stark are running around trying to find a new entourage for the reborn Capt, who has been found or revived, in hopes of restoring America's power and prominence in the world, or something like that. Maybe.
Omega Man by cripeman	Sep 9th, 2008 06:07:46 AM
I never saw it either (the pacing in most early seventies movies grates on my nerves). I work on the West Side of Chicago and the automatic assumption that white = racist is racist. Can we fast forward about 10 years and loose this mindset?
Michael Pitt for Captain America by killmeagain	Sep 9th, 2008 06:23:33 AM
I just don't understand why Captain America should be older than 25-30. Only a young soldier would make more sense as an older person wouldn't really go the experiment in WWII. Michael Pitt would make a good ol' All-American soldier(after beefing up of course).
Randy Couture as Captain America by Toby___Wong	Sep 9th, 2008 06:29:45 AM
I just realized his nickname was Captain America. So why not let him be Captain America? He can sure do the fight scenes. Boreanaz or Couture as Captain America would be cool.
Smith for Green Lantern. For DC. by dr sauch	Sep 9th, 2008 06:30:36 AM
Uhh, yeah.
I can't think of super hero Smith COULD play by br1947	Sep 9th, 2008 06:30:54 AM
It's not a black or white issue, it's an issue of Will Smith being an over-rated actor and a complete narcissist. With few exceptions, he plays the same 'super cool' character in every movie. Some, like MIB and Independence Day, it worked for. But for superheroes it just doesnt click, see Hancock for proof.. If you really just have to have Will Smith as a superhero, make him The Flash, the same cocky character he played in pretty much all his movies would actually work there pretty well. Now for supervillians... I could totally see him as the Riddler, the narcissist supreme. I think Smith could easily pull a Travolta and start doing villian roles and really clean up. And don't give me the 'you just want a black guy as a villian' crap, I really couldn't care less care less about race. I just think Smith's attitude lends itself more to a really good bad guy role. Cap is supposed to be a humble man putting country first, I don't see any way Will Smith could pull that off. Same with Hal Jordan, Smith just comes across as too arogant Speaking of Hal Jordan, I gotta go with Avery Brooks w/ a bit of de-aging. He's got that quiet commanding presence perfect. Not all super heroes have to be 20-35
Of course not. They need him for the Superman reboot. by Stalin vs Predator	Sep 9th, 2008 06:33:21 AM
Awww, haaai-l ye-ah.
what the hell is wrong with... by depalma25	Sep 9th, 2008 06:55:33 AM
...Will Smith playing Captain America? Who gives a shit? Get over yourselves? I would love to see a black Superman or even a black Batman. Obviously it was inconcievable at one point, but times have changed. Bravo, for anyone who imagine's an ethnic Superman or a Asian Spiderman. Fuck you Harry and the rest of you Comic-Con bitches who can't imagine a Black Captain America.
Brad Beyer for Cap!! by SoWasRed2012	Sep 9th, 2008 06:56:43 AM
I challenge anyone to look at him as Stanley in Jericho and tell me they couldn't see him playing Cap. The dude is perfect for it.
Avery Brooks! In white face makeup! For Cap!! by V'Shael	Sep 9th, 2008 06:56:55 AM
Official idiotic Posting at 11pm. Redundant retraction for retards who believed it, tomorrow at lunch time.
Toby_Wong by DonLogan	Sep 9th, 2008 07:04:51 AM
Michael Pitt for Cap is a great idea! I always thought his brother Brad would be a good choice but perhaps too old now. And i really wish people would stop suggesting actors who have already been in comic book movies to play new ones, not very inspired is it? So thats a NO to Thomas Jane as Cap (he was punisher , remember?), NO to Aaron Eckhart as Cap (he;s two-face, remember?), NO to Chritian Bale as Cap (he's everyone else, remember?), No to Brandon Routh as Cap (he was Superman, remember?), NO to Ben Affleck as Cap (he was Daredevil, remember?)and NO to Tyler Mane as Thor (he was Sabertooth remember?)....and before anyone starts, i know brad isn't michaels brother really.
Kelsey Grammer for Captain America...STILL! by lord_zedd	Sep 9th, 2008 07:17:42 AM
I'm not letting up folks
The one true Cap is... by TurboPervo	Sep 9th, 2008 07:19:46 AM
Reb Brown. C'mon back Rebel! Seriously CA should be young and very muscular, like John Cena. (No, I'm not saying Cena for Cap, he should just look like that. So should Superman for that matter.)
Steve Buscemi for pre-serum Cap! by br1947	Sep 9th, 2008 07:29:43 AM
It'd be funny as hell...
I'm not a religious man... by Dr. Egon Spengler	Sep 9th, 2008 07:41:14 AM
But thank Christ, that would have been a disaster.
No shit by Thrillho77	Sep 9th, 2008 07:45:24 AM
Yeah, like they'd cast the Fresh Prince as CAPTAIN. AMERICA.
Holy Shit! The answer is so easy. Iceman from by SID 8.0	Sep 9th, 2008 07:45:53 AM
"Generation Kill" Alexander Skarsgard. From the work he did on the show he'd be perfect. He's the right height and size plus blond. The guy can act too. Hell he's Stellan's son. Come to think of it he could play Thor too. He's swedish but doesn't have trace of an accent. He's the best choice
Not Cap but he will be Bucky!!! by dihay	Sep 9th, 2008 07:56:26 AM
He'll die off early in the first film, will be the protagonist in the second film, and fill Cap's shoes in the third after Cap is shot to death. Story by Ed Brubaker, costume design by Alex Ross and directed by Tim Burton!
For Thor... by danthemagnum	Sep 9th, 2008 07:56:53 AM
I really think that Sean Bean could potentially be a PERFECT Thor. I mean has the look, the acting chops, and also the experience with the type of role needed for Thor.
Derek Luke is a Bitch! by warghost	Sep 9th, 2008 08:01:30 AM
Nothing worse than talentless hacks like this douchebag hyping rumors that he knows nothing about. All to draw attention to himself and that shitty Spike Lee joint he's trying to peddle. People like him piss me off.
Sean Bean as Thor! fuck me, that's funny. by V'Shael	Sep 9th, 2008 08:04:27 AM
"See that, right? That's my bleedin' hammer that is." SMASH! "Fackin tosser!"
Um...is anyone else seeing an ad for something... by FlickaPoo	Sep 9th, 2008 08:05:14 AM
...called "ArabLounge"...just in case you want to meet "single Arabs online"?.....must...not make inappropriate jokes...must....resist....must ...
If Brad Pitt ever wants to take a superhero role... by JDanielP	Sep 9th, 2008 08:22:17 AM
...Captain America is it.
Jamie Bamber for Captain America by mrfan	Sep 9th, 2008 08:29:34 AM
Nuff said.
Perhaps just some scam to keep awareness up for the movie? by PrezMike	Sep 9th, 2008 08:32:07 AM

McConauhey could pull this off by jermcdee	Sep 9th, 2008 08:34:55 AM
Don't you think?
Whew by rogueleader66	Sep 9th, 2008 08:37:56 AM
That was a close one. Will can do a lot of different things but I just could not see him as Cap. I really think for high profile roles like this you should go with someone relatively unknown, or at least not such a well known actor, that way there are no preconceived notions about the actor or his ability to do the role. Check out my blog-http://movietalktime.blog spot.com/
Nick Fury aka Samuel L Jackson by Lauryn2000	Sep 9th, 2008 08:38:03 AM
I'm sure there was rumblings but Sam is bad ass!!
As to the young recruit "age" of Captain America by JDanielP	Sep 9th, 2008 08:38:30 AM
It's understandable if you want to stay closer to the comic book roots, in that Steve Rogers was young when he entered the super soldier program. But at the same time, Captain America's leadership abilities seem to go beyond his years. So, as to the "age factor", I'm (personally) much more forgiving...in order to get the right actor for the part. And if (and only if) Brad Pitt can beef up for the part, I think he's a very solid choice.
I'm still saying Jensen Ackles by David Cloverfield	Sep 9th, 2008 08:43:43 AM
But then again, I said him for Kirk too. He has the jaw. http://www.toutelatele.com/IMG / jpg/Jensen-ACKLES.jpg
mrfan, Jamie Bamber cant be Capt America.. by CullenisPrime	Sep 9th, 2008 08:43:44 AM
He is not 5'9" let alone over 6 foot. If you want someone from BSG give it to Helo. But I think Aaron Eckhart would nail it.
No "superstars" for Cap (or Thor)! by Booster Gold Lives	Sep 9th, 2008 09:03:44 AM
While I personally can't see them in the role, Pitt or Damon would be fine for Cap if it was a franchise in and of itself, without building towards an Avengers movie. In the "big picture," they're almost too big, and would overshadow the rest of the cast. Avengers isn't an Ocean's movie with all their pals, they'd expect to be the big dog of the production; say what you will, but Norton and Downey Jr. (at least before this summer) aren't huge megastars. I like the Jensen Ackles idea for Cap; I also like Josh Duhamel for the role. Steve Rogers isn't a larger-than-life man, he's just a man with a larger-than-life mantle to bear; you need someone who can pull that off, not only in the solo movie with a bunch of soldiers but also with the Avengers themselves, and it has to balance actually being able to look the part. Tough gig, but you don't need a superstar to do it (especially one who'd bring the shadow of Brangelina to the production).
AICN Talkbackers Should NEVER... by loserguy3000	Sep 9th, 2008 09:06:30 AM
...cast a film. Ever! Given the pathetic track record of being wrong on just about every major 'choice' the bozos here (myself included) have been, if I were a Hollywood casting agency, I'd come here just to know WHO to avoid. Crispin Glover for Joker/Wonka? Bruce Campell for EVERYTHING (except the perfect Mysterio we all know he'd be!), or the bitching that followed Heath Ledger's casting as Joker. Yeah, stellar track record here, guys. Inspired casting means not hiring someone just because they've got the 'look' we think they have. Dig deeper than that, and for GODS SAKE stop suggesting momentarily popular faces and sets of tits to be his or her. Same goes for directors...which get their cocks and clits sucked more by AICN talkbackers than anyone else... CASE IN POINT!! Let's keep talking about how 'perfect' Tim Burton would be Willy Wonka because he made Nightmare Before Christmas. How about that Johnny Depp? Just cast that fucker in everything now and settle down for fish and chips. Guillermo del Toro? Oh, he'd be perfect for The Hobbit (because his films are such character masterpieces...yeah, right). How about Christopher Nolan? Y'all learned his name, so you might as well shout it out every chance you get... Same works in REVERSE! You all hate Brett Ratner, hate Paul (whatever his initials are) Anderson... yet where's the real hate for that master of shit, Uwe Boll? Seriously...its like reading the diaries of puppets in here sometimes...think outside the box people, or at least outside the pizza boxes, because its like a broken record here.
Kevin McKidd for Thor, Pitt won't do Cap, Matt McAunahee (ha!) w by Stormwatcher	Sep 9th, 2008 09:07:06 AM
Hooked on phonics worked for me! Sound out the names
P.S. proving me 100% perfect correct... by loserguy3000	Sep 9th, 2008 09:08:17 AM
Hey not to brag, but just take a gander at the posts just prior to mine...people must have written those while I was writing mine. See what I mean? 100% fanboy 'dream casting' at its most embarrassing... Straight dudes discussing how certain actors have that 'look' or 'the perfect chin'...uh huh.... and you just wear dresses on Halloween because its fun? Take a look folks...read, learn, and get corrected!!
Buzzkill by blackhole4140	Sep 9th, 2008 09:14:14 AM
Sorry it's confirmed as a rumor. Smith would have made a fine choice, certainly better than other actors tossed around here(thank god none of us cast these things). Someone in the original talkback had the idea that maybe Cap was black, but the propaganda machine simply made him white for the public. That's a brillant idea. Regardless, Joe Louis was an iconic black man that Americans in the 40's loved that served in WW2, so it's really not that big of a stretch.
CAN MORE PEOPLE PLEASE TAKE NOTICE by SoWasRed2012	Sep 9th, 2008 09:16:57 AM
of the Brad Beyer for Cap suggestion? He's unknown (so no Brangelina style baggage), looks like Cap (always a plus), would be awesome as Cap (anyone who saw Jericho knows he's as American as apple pie, and can handle himself) and, dammit, he ought to be Cap!!
Will Smith as The W.A.S.P. by faison	Sep 9th, 2008 09:18:23 AM
'Nuff Said
Kirk Lazarus for Black Jesus by Dr Gregory House	Sep 9th, 2008 09:19:55 AM
Who wit me?
COULDN by BringingSexyBack	Sep 9th, 2008 09:20:56 AM

COULDN'T YOU HAVE WAITED A FEW MORE DAYS TO DEBUNK? by BringingSexyBack	Sep 9th, 2008 09:21:31 AM
That was a fun talkback. Talk about a buzzkill!!
Matt Damon or Mark Wahlberg as Captain America by SpyGuy	Sep 9th, 2008 09:22:12 AM
Oh, and save the Winter Soldier storyline for the second film. Ed Brubaker's CAPTAIN AMERICA series should be gospel, but no need to blow your entire load in the first film.
Black Captain America and Lundgren for Thor by scottishnutjob	Sep 9th, 2008 09:23:48 AM
There was a black Captain America comic book a while back where they tested of the superserum on a black guy who was the original Captain America. Right? I love Kevin McKidd, he would be excellent and deadpan hilarious but Dolph Lundgren IS Thor.
Hey 'TheGhostWhoLurks'. I read your post about 10 times from... by :-o	Sep 9th, 2008 09:24:48 AM
..every possible point of view and...yup...you are a racist. Russell Brand was right--anyone who thinks america is not ready for a black man as president (or Cap/ America) is most definitely a racist.
I agree, 's a good thing fanboys don't cast these movies... by Chishu_Ryu	Sep 9th, 2008 09:29:27 AM
Dolph Lundgren as Thor? Okay... And leave it up to these guys and the Cap movie would look like that God-awful early 80's Cap show...
Blacktain America.... by One Nation Under Zod	Sep 9th, 2008 09:30:10 AM
Could have been a great film idea in it's own right....
A Different Type of Cap by BukaHobbit	Sep 9th, 2008 09:31:16 AM
Okay, stay with me for a minute...Will Ferrell as Captain America and Owen Wilson as the Red Skull. Go ahead a throw in Martin Lawrence as the Falcon. Add Patton Oswald as Bucky and you get a bucket-o-shite that will still make money.
Don't ever run another Buzzkill column again, Mori by Dashing Roger	Sep 9th, 2008 09:36:26 AM
The tone you take in them, they're insulting, since you trade in rumors yourself. Harry beat you to the punch here, and he has a much more respectful way of killing rumors than you do - he doesn't berate us for believing in them in the first place. It's the one time I'm happy about your tendency to over-promise and under-deliver: we likely won't see a Buzzkill column from you but once or twice a year.
Thank God. by riskebiz	Sep 9th, 2008 09:42:26 AM
Will Smith as Captain America would have been as big a disaster as it was him playing Jim West in the Wild Wild West. Matt Damon. Brad Pitt ... anyone but Will Smith. Captain America is my favorite hero and I'd hate to see Will Smith ruin it. I ... personally ... am sick of Will Smith.
MARK VALLEY by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 09:44:45 AM
Google him and you'll see... his Captain America would be strong like bull.
I think Smith should cameo by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 09:45:40 AM
The Truth plot would fit nicely in the new realism of Marvel films.
SHUT UP ABOUT PITT by name818	Sep 9th, 2008 09:46:11 AM
Why can't people see past big stars like Pitt. He's in his 40's people! Oh, and Damon realllllllllly comes off as a leader of men type. Shut up. I'm sorry you cant think of more than 4 actors but god that shits annoying. There's more talent out there than just those 3 actors you know....and Eckart?!?!? GOD SHUT THE FUCK UP!
What if Cap has been an agent since the 80's??? by JDanielP	Sep 9th, 2008 09:47:22 AM
Move over Jason Bourne, hello Avengers costume!
Bucky should be in it by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 09:48:22 AM
Maybe not as a sidekick, maybe as a buddy, or someone Cap saves. I keep having this image of Shia LaBeouf, but I hate that koksukka. Zac Efron!
name818 by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 09:52:17 AM
Wentworth Miller (Prison Break) Charlie Hunnam (Sons of Anarchy) Mark Valley (Boston Legal) Garret Hedlund (Troy)
WILL SMITH HAS BEEN CAST AS XENU! by ArcadianDS	Sep 9th, 2008 09:53:39 AM
WELCOMM TA CLEAR!!!! AN WAHT IS DAT SMAYELL?
Adrian Brody as Flava Flav by Knobules	Sep 9th, 2008 09:56:44 AM
And my dads booze soaked couch in the basement as Bridgette Nielson I am not racist but that just makes no sense to me.
CAP needs an actor UNDER 35 by j2talk	Sep 9th, 2008 10:01:44 AM
and 35 is pushing it....the people who fought WW2 were predominantly in the 17-25range.....as much as recent Talkbacks have complained about the 90120 casting of films (starTrek anyone?)the fact remain, Steve Rogers should be a twenty something actor....Just PLEASE stay away from the TeenBeat set and use someone who can act....now the real question is WHO????
I think an appropriate choice... by NiceGuyEddie19	Sep 9th, 2008 10:04:14 AM
Would be Aaron Eckhart. And btw, you guys should stop insulting Derek Luke.
but... the first Cap WAS black.... by only1	Sep 9th, 2008 10:05:12 AM
at least, as of 2003's Truth mini-series. As a nod to that and easter egg to comic fans, I could see a quick cameo by Will Smith as Isaiah Bradley. John Cena... damn... I'm a wrestling fan and I never thought of that. I could see it, though. too bad Marvel and Vince McMahon could NEVER work together... too many egos.
Brad Beyer would be a good choice by freerangecelt	Sep 9th, 2008 10:05:56 AM
but Mark Valley looks like Cap, but is 44. I doubt they cast any TV vet as Cap.
UnknownUser, his name is Patrick Warburton by Shut the Fuck up Donny	Sep 9th, 2008 10:06:20 AM
And he is GOD. Funny enough, he actually did the voice of Superman in those Seinfeld/Superman snippets for American Express a few years back.
CAPTAIN IN OUR TIME. by haywood	Sep 9th, 2008 10:06:27 AM
I am a big fan of Cap. But I have to say that a black Captain America would work if it was done after the death of the original Steve Rogers. So many African Americans have fought in our wars, and died for this country also, that they can wear that red white and blue suit. Now as for Cap, ie: Steve Rogers his character works better as a fish out of water story. A WW2 story to me seems a bit much. What makes cap interesting is not his adventures in the past, but his adventures in our time. How does a White man who was raised during those times, cope with the changes in himself, and it in the times he has to now live in. That to me is the story of Captain America. It would be better if the film started with a submarine just picking up his frozen body, and then through some flashbacks and newsreels we would be introduced at the same time that he is gaining his memory to his adventure as Captain America in WW2. Then back to the story at hand, Cap in our time. As for those that think that cap should be young, it goes either way, there were many men in their thirties that enlisted in the war, it actually makes him more of a loser that he is in his thirties and has not found his calling. Just some thoughts.
there was no way this rumor was true by palewook	Sep 9th, 2008 10:06:46 AM
anyone that bought into it. should stay off the net for a week or two.
Someone said that Aaron Eckhart... by REDD	Sep 9th, 2008 10:08:08 AM
was too old for the part, but then suggested Thomas Jane; Eckhart turned 40 this year, Jane turns 40 next year. Either one of them is still young enough to play the part, unless Steve Rogers was in his twenties in the origin story, does anyone know?
Only secondary comic book characters get "blackified"... by Leafar the Lost	Sep 9th, 2008 10:08:13 AM
Daredevil had to be played by a white guy, but the Kingpin could be black. Wonder-Woman has to be playd by a white girl, but the Cheetah (or whoever the hell her enemies are) can be black. So, Captain America must be white, but Will Smith could play Bucky...or Battlestar. Anyone remember him?
haywood by NiceGuyEddie19	Sep 9th, 2008 10:09:59 AM
I agree it could work in theory but I think that there is far too much disillusionment, anger, and anti-patriotic feelings in the black culture we know today in 2008 for it to be believable. Barack Obama is kind of a miraculous occurence, and yes I will be voting for him. But he doesn't seem to represent their mainstream culture. He represents some semblance of reconciliation and hope.
WILL SMITH COULD PLAY THE FALCON!!! by Leafar the Lost	Sep 9th, 2008 10:10:00 AM
I felt I had to add that one. The Falcon was Captain America's partner for a long time. It could even be spinned off into his own movie...
Joker Gordon Levitt, good call on Hunnam. by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Sep 9th, 2008 10:12:03 AM
I saw him on Sons of Anarchy the other night and I thought he was awesome as Jax. Then I found out he was in Undeclared and Children of Men; what a range. He'd be better for Thor, but he could totally be Captain America.
Considering the white actors that are being tossed around for co by terry1978	Sep 9th, 2008 10:12:50 AM
Smith isn't sounding like too bad of a choice now.
UnknownUser: Two Words... by NiceGuyEddie19	Sep 9th, 2008 10:13:21 AM
Bruce..... Campbell
Found frozen in the 80's & active since = AVENGERS leader by JDanielP	Sep 9th, 2008 10:19:52 AM
Pardon me while I'm still spinning over the possibilities (of this idea)! It just makes complete sense...if an actor like Brad Pitt (or anyone in that age bracket) gets the part. Can you imagine Steve Rogers having a history since the 80's, as a U.S. agent? And with his "cap"abilities, he would be a natural choice to lead the Averngers. (If I was running the show, I think this is the direction that I would go!)
NiceGuy by haywood	Sep 9th, 2008 10:20:10 AM
Thanks for your post. That is what Cap should represent reconciliation and hope. Cap represents the ideal America one that has yet to be achieved. As for the black culture if we get past the stuff that the media depicts we all would be amazed on how similar and diverse black america is. I always count the commercials.. how many minorities are shown, how many drama shows depict a leading cast of minorities? Its all good to chat about it, thank you.
UnknownUser by NiceGuyEddie19	Sep 9th, 2008 10:21:35 AM
Maybe you're right, but couldn't they work some makeup magic on him? Besides that, it's hard to take Bruce seriously in anything.
AARON ECKHART as Cap by Prem1x	Sep 9th, 2008 10:24:21 AM
Two Face is dead. Aaron is a rising star and would give Cap a performance of a lifetime and NAIL it!
Haywood - agree, all good to chat about it. by NiceGuyEddie19	Sep 9th, 2008 10:30:34 AM
If we can do so without getting banned, then awesome. If not, fuck it. I understand your assertion that the media puts forth a certain spin on black culture. But what a lot of people may not understand is that most of black America lives in the south. I moved to the south from Oregon at age 9, and have lived here among what is an astonishingly different racial ratio of people. About 70% of the town I live in is black. So I know there is diversity, but there is also those who would just as soon let the media identify them and accept that identity. It's sad and a shame, but at least some people are combatting it.
Ryan Reynolds for Captain America. by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Sep 9th, 2008 10:39:02 AM
It could work. He should have been Anakin.
GurzEon... by REDD	Sep 9th, 2008 10:42:01 AM
"Blacks suck as superheros?" What kind of statement is that? Yep, you're an idiot (and you suck as a human being).
WILL SMITH GOT AXED by BringingSexyBack	Sep 9th, 2008 10:42:53 AM
about playing Captain America, to which he replied it was a rumor.
GURZEON OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T SEE BLADE I by BringingSexyBack	Sep 9th, 2008 10:43:46 AM
On Catwoman I'll give him the point.
just sorta sad that no one sees... by amateurscientist	Sep 9th, 2008 10:52:05 AM
okay fannies, I get it. I'm one too. I love the characters and all that. and I do think that "they" (hollywood, marvel, etc.) don't need to make the changes from a "stunt casting" point of view, but hearing that the blond and blue eyes is "ICONIC" as the reason... well it scoffs of racism in the way that people don't know that they're being racist. just sad. frankly, I like that guy MARC BLUCAS for Cap. that or an unknown. but to just FLAT OUT SAY NO, and to say no 'CAUSE Smith is black... yikes. it's ugly, and I'm just sad to see it in the FanBoy community and even more so from the HeadGeek. (*anybody into comics remember the TRUTH series? that would make a GREAT pre-Captain America movie and that's essentially about the early testing for the Captain America project done on black soldiers before the final was given to Steve Rogers... makes for an interesting story... and speaks to historic tragedies like the Tuskegee Experiment. I'm just sayin'...)
BLADE IS HUMORLESS AS SHIT? by BringingSexyBack	Sep 9th, 2008 10:53:03 AM
So what? And the only weak thing about Blade was Stephen Dorff as the villain. He was weak as hell.
Would black people accept Brad Pitt playing Malcom X? by V'Shael	Sep 9th, 2008 10:56:11 AM
No? Oh well, it must mean they're all racist then. After all, it couldn't possibly have anything to do with him being WRONG FOR THE PART, now could it?
NiceGuy by haywood	Sep 9th, 2008 10:56:51 AM
I hear you. Thanks good to have this chat, it does make a small difference.
GURZEON - WHAT DO YOU THINK OF MARTIN LUTHER KING? by BringingSexyBack	Sep 9th, 2008 10:58:04 AM

IAMJACK - WHAT DO YOU THINK OF ROSA PARKS? by BringingSexyBack	Sep 9th, 2008 10:58:37 AM

PRINCE AS THOR!!! by BringingSexyBack	Sep 9th, 2008 11:03:13 AM
You will not prevail against the Son of Odin!!! Owwuu Wahk!!
RICKY MARTIN AS CAPTAIN LATIN AMERICA!!! by BringingSexyBack	Sep 9th, 2008 11:06:39 AM
"Joo wong me to tek deh super solyer serum? Wat joo crazy meng!!!"
I loved how everyone who was pro Smiff yesterday was throwing by j_ky2002	Sep 9th, 2008 11:07:27 AM
around the "racist" card. It's a complete non-sequitor. I kept throwing out the "DJ Qualls as Luke Cage" argument to show how stupid this whole thing was. If race really, really didn't matter in casting, then Qualls can be considered for Cage. Let's go another way, and leave race out of it altogether...Let's say the rumor yesterday was that Dane Cook had been offered Captain America. He's white, could dye his hair, hit the gym and gain some bulk, whatever he needed to do to look like Cap. The fact is, he plays a white boy slacker dipshit with sinus problems in every movie he makes. Other than "I Am Legend", Smith plays a wise-cracking, cocky but lovable down-to-earth, non-threatening black guy. (I will give you that he brooded a little in "I, Robot", but he still popped off all the time. Now I am all against type casting, but Smiff has done this to himself. No one has forced him to take the roles he takes, but at least he knows where his strength is; lots of actors never find it for themselves. However, getting back to my point, if it had been Dane Cook announced as Cap, the feedback would have been just as vitriolic as it was yesterday; possibly even more so, as some would not be as inclined to hide their true opinions for fear of being called a racsist. The simple fact is neither man fits the part of Captain America, regardless of the color of their skin. And that whole "Isaiah Bradley" stuff was nothing more than a terrible retcon attempt by Marvel. Didn't Bradley wind up functionally retarded because of the serum or something like that at the end? Again, it may be "stereotyping" or "typecasting", but it is not racism.
Here's the other parenthesis I forgot. It should follow "time" by j_ky2002	Sep 9th, 2008 11:09:23 AM
) Goddamnit, this is the busiest movie forum in the world, but some fucking control functions on here, Harry!
The Marquis de Side 3 was right. by amateurscientist	Sep 9th, 2008 11:11:38 AM
but then, maybe that's the direction they're going and they're just not letting us in on it. it would be cool, and even ending it on a note where the black cap character dies would also add a measure of tragedy to the Steve Rogers character that isn't there... and it would also sort of include the fact that America is a multi-cultural, diverse country (so that the symbol of Cap doesn't sort of exclude others... ya know?) but yeah, I agree with the guy who said that Talkbackers shouldn't really cast. becasue they're too close minded. they're not visionaries. they're type-casters. and until the molds are broken for them, as with Hollywood and most people, they can't see that they CAN'T SEE outside of the box. JOKER being the PRIME EXAMPLE -- none of the haters would cop to their error. anyway... the discussion continues.
Aaron Eckhart would be a solid choice by JDanielP	Sep 9th, 2008 11:12:40 AM
...as long as Steve Rogers was thawed (from the ice) in the 90's. Great choice, actually,...assuming Aaron Eckhart can handle the action choreography.
Aaron Eckhart for Cap by Abominable Snowcone	Sep 9th, 2008 11:18:36 AM
you know it to be true
IAMJACK - A NUMBER OF BLACK POSTERS IN THE ORIGINAL TALKBACK by BringingSexyBack	Sep 9th, 2008 11:18:39 AM
agreed about Will being miscast. Relax. Read their posts and have a cookie.
Capt America SHOULD have been black by shitstorm23	Sep 9th, 2008 11:19:01 AM
Let's see, we're going to start injecting soldiers with a serum we do not fully understand, so we're going to use our best WHITE soldier as a test case? Sorry, the govt would TOTALLY use a black guy as the experimental case. I've heard stories Cap was supposed to be black as a tuskegee experiment type thing, but it was too controversial.
shitstorm, you are a moron by j_ky2002	Sep 9th, 2008 11:20:31 AM
Rogers was in no way their "best" soldier. He was a scrawny, pathetic weakling before the serum. Read a goddamned comic before you comment on them.
ROSA PARKS IS AS GREAT A HERO AS ANYTHING MARVEL PUT OUT by BringingSexyBack	Sep 9th, 2008 11:22:32 AM
Except for Thor and Hulk.
Shitstorm, by j_ky2002	Sep 9th, 2008 11:22:46 AM
As a matter of fact, he was REJECTED in a time of draft for being so puny. He only got into the army after agreing to take part in the serum experiment.
IAMJACK - YOU STFU by BringingSexyBack	Sep 9th, 2008 11:23:25 AM
Stupid!
IamJack's bad Fight Club reference by amateurscientist	Sep 9th, 2008 11:24:11 AM
dude, you're getting it wrong. I'm saying that for Cap, Will Smtith, or anyone black is a wrong choice, but to use "ICONIC" as the reason for the blond, blues eyes thing just stinks of a racist excuse. I also like the idea that Marquis de Side said with folding in the TRUTH mini-series into the whole Cap story. I think it would be a cool way that they could explain the headline of "Will Smith as Captain America" and make for an interesting story that goes beyond the obvious. but c'mon man, read it again, and if need be, don't be afraid to examine yourself (... and of course I realize I've opened the flood gates... ah well.) MARC BLUCAS FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA! (white guy... for what it's worth.)
NO, YOU STFU!!! by BringingSexyBack	Sep 9th, 2008 11:26:17 AM
Estupido!!!
blindambition238- that's not a terrible idea by Heckles	Sep 9th, 2008 11:26:36 AM
Apollo as Cap? Could work.
OKAY I STFU by BringingSexyBack	Sep 9th, 2008 11:27:55 AM
I gotta get a samwich.
PUTA MARICON!! by BringingSexyBack	Sep 9th, 2008 11:28:54 AM
See you later bendejos.
Your Faith is Restored? by The Funketeer	Sep 9th, 2008 11:33:31 AM
Because Will Smith isn't going to play dress up with a character you only seem to marginally know anything about? My faith in the world will be restored when we stop spending trillions of dollars on a pointless war or when we catch Bin Laden and maybe neuter Al Quieda. Or maybe when a third party candidate is elected to the White House or men and women are given the right to marry whoever they choose. Will Smith isn't Captain America and my world really hasn't changed much for the better or worse since yesterday.
Charlie Hunnam by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 11:39:07 AM
I'll say it again. Charlie Hunnam
hahahahaha, AICN talkbackers by DeadPanWalking	Sep 9th, 2008 11:41:06 AM
The reaction to the "confused, angry, and scared" line cracks me up. "I wasn't scared!" Must ... prove ... manliness ... on the internet!
by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 11:42:10 AM
6' 1" (1.85 m) 28yrs old and he's very handsome in a tough way. Im not gay, but if my sis was banging him, i'd be like, "Yeah, you go girl, with your fine man and shit..."
Charlie Hunnam by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 11:44:20 AM
Charlie Hunnam. King of the wild frontier. Charlie, Charlie Hunnam. The man who don't know fear.
oh yeah, and everybody is right by amateurscientist	Sep 9th, 2008 11:44:31 AM
cause TRUTH was a bad comic, but a GREAT IDEA (just poorly rendered... but how often have we seen that happen?) of course, Steve Rogers wasn't their best soldier... he was scrawny and all that... BUT... he posssessed a greater level patriotism than any soldier before him (that is canon). so c'mon geeks, let's let the story dictate the casting, and sure let Cap be who we know, but not say things like "blond, blue eyed is ICONIC" and that being blond and white is representative of "the american dream". they're poor arguments that are only making everyone look like racist bigot when that's not even the point. and that's what I"m trying to say. that and MARC BLUCAS should be Cap. (no, I'm not Marc Blucas.) of course, if they went the TRUTH way it would be cool to end on a tragedy of... whoops said that already.
haha, "I'm not marc Blucas" by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 11:46:27 AM
but i'm sure he's on here somewhere, scientist...
HAHAHAHAHA I didn't even know that rumour!! by Damien Chowder	Sep 9th, 2008 11:47:20 AM
But Marvel is in denial because this is one of those silly moves they would do plus politrical correctnessess and Hollycrud. God! I wish Will Smith was Captain America cos it would piss so many people off.
Whenever i read a captain america comic i think by Nite Owl III	Sep 9th, 2008 11:52:17 AM
robert redford about 15- 20 years ago.....or will smith
I'm up for Will Smith as Captain America. They just have to "Whi by Damien Chowder	Sep 9th, 2008 11:54:32 AM

They just have to "white chick" him ala Wayan's brothers stylee by Damien Chowder	Sep 9th, 2008 11:55:51 AM

Will Smith as Cap? Ummm let me think........... by The Founder	Sep 9th, 2008 12:01:34 PM
Big no. I love Will Smith, but Cap should be white. Captain America is to much of an established character to make such a drastic change as race.
Im sure studios set this up by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 12:04:07 PM
just to get people talking. If there are any execs surfng this TB, I'd just like to extend a warm welcome, and respectfully suggest CHARLIE HUNNAM, WENTWORTH MILLER, GARRET HEDLUND, and if you need a 'name', the closest I can think would be JOSH HARTNETT The following actors are great, but simply TOO OLD: AARON ECKHART MARK VALLEY (I know I pimped him earlier, but he's 44.) JOSH LUCAS Please keep Captain America white. Any other nationality would create sub-text that doesn't fit in the established canon, and could have horrible results (ex; giving Superman a kid. Bad idea). Thanks execs, enjoy your voyeurism.
Well the first Captain America was Black. Remember people it's t by The Founder	Sep 9th, 2008 12:08:15 PM
Still think Cap should be white but if the studio really wanted Smith as Cap then their is the story that was done in Marvel a few years back where the first Captain America was indeed black. The serum or process was teased on either on African americans or an African Americcan before it was tested on white males. I didn't read the story but i do remember hearing the story and seeing the comic, but I have never been a fan of Captain America as a stand alone character. I like the chracter but he only interest me when he is leading the Avengers.
i agree with jacksuserid by Nite Owl III	Sep 9th, 2008 12:09:24 PM
lets start naawp
Deathstrike you fucking moron by DoctorWho?	Sep 9th, 2008 12:15:09 PM
If you need someone to explain why Wil Smith multi- million dollar successful actor not being OFFERED a role he isn't right for is NOT racist than you're an idiot! They didn't offer it to Robert Duvall either...is that age discrimination? Comments like that toatally rob the word 'racism' of the inherent impact it should have.
Making Jesus white is pretty racist by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 12:17:12 PM
making Jesus black is pretty racist too. But thats the funny thing about faith; it is only as strong as it's followers. Making the messiah YOUR skin color makes for easier recruitment.
That goes for you too amateurscientist by DoctorWho?	Sep 9th, 2008 12:17:25 PM

What the fuck is this shit? by HoboCode	Sep 9th, 2008 12:19:12 PM
Misinformation? Come on. These fuckers put this shit out there to guage interest and reaction and we all are supposed to act like it's the rumor mill. Well I call bullshit.
IAmJack'sUserID why are you going there? Don't start.... by The Founder	Sep 9th, 2008 12:21:00 PM
this anti black argument. When you are going to try and make an argument for a comic character using real world issues that can be debunked from my point and ebated overall has no relevence. I noticed you mentioned black awards or affirmative action but you also left out the fact that Affirmative action is not just or never was for black people, it actually covers all minorites and white women, but it's always easire to whites riled up when you just mention the NEGROS. As for something as ridiculas as award shows? Well what about all the latino awards shows or the 5 or 6 cable stations that cater to hispanic americans and speak in spanish. But yet you also hear people like Jack complain about the one black BET network, which actually speaks in the national language of english. I'll just get off the topic cause I have an list of counter points that can be argued. You'll be happy to know however that i agree with you, Cap should be white.
Well i was wring about the Cap story, it's what I ..... by The Founder	Sep 9th, 2008 12:22:33 PM
was told. Sorry.
I mean "WRONG" by The Founder	Sep 9th, 2008 12:23:04 PM
SORRY AGAIN
I Could Care Less by cocolopez	Sep 9th, 2008 12:23:11 PM
that Will Smith is black- what does matter is that he sucks as an actor and I'm sick of his smug dumb face and silly ears. Keep this asshat away from superhero movies- he already had his Handcock bullshit.
I mean "WRONG" by The Founder	Sep 9th, 2008 12:23:13 PM
SORRY AGAIN
Well that Hancock BS grossed over 200 mil easily. by The Founder	Sep 9th, 2008 12:26:21 PM
For a new hero that was made up just for smith, i'd say it did pretty damn good. Sorry hater.
actually deathstrike , plot wise it prolly wouldnt work by joevfx	Sep 9th, 2008 12:30:20 PM
this is a period piece movie that takes place in 1940 during world war 2. there werent a ton of black soldiers nor would america in that time pick a black man to be the symbol of the war and the country. Im not saying thats what i think, im just saying how the 1940's were. So plot wise Will Smith would not work.
Johnny Depp might be The Riddler and Philip Seymour Hoffman migh by wowsucks	Sep 9th, 2008 12:34:39 PM
Thats what Michael Caine said.. Where's the cool news?
Kevin Mckid has to be Thor by joevfx	Sep 9th, 2008 12:37:26 PM
Just watch Rome and you will see why. He is a great actor and a freaking bad ass!!!
I remember when... by akiraclass	Sep 9th, 2008 12:39:04 PM
this site had the announcement of RDJ as Iron Man-a casting choice that came out of nowhere, but was altogether perfect. I'm sure Marvel is thinking along those same lines for Cap.
GurzEon... by tattooray	Sep 9th, 2008 12:42:08 PM
At first I thought you were just messin' around to get a reaction. But that is the real you isn't it? Take a few minutes away from replying to people and read back over all your comments. Reevaluate youself. Oh, and I'm white by the way. Sometimes apologetically so...
I know they're a bit old for the part... by The Grug	Sep 9th, 2008 12:44:13 PM
But I can easily see Aaron Eckhart or Tom Jane as the Cap - they've both got that "all-American" face going on (Eckhart particularly).
Wayne Knight IS Shaft! by thegreatwhatzit	Sep 9th, 2008 12:44:51 PM

Good. It was stupid "news" anyway. Eckhart is Cap! by Puddleglum	Sep 9th, 2008 12:45:49 PM
Or, should be.
The thing that comes off as racist... by Elohim	Sep 9th, 2008 12:46:40 PM
"It's not racist, it's staying true to the character." But the thing that comes off as racist is that you think his whiteness is such an important part of his character that it must be preserved. Now with something like Thor, I understand. His heritage is a big part of his character. If it was a WWII story set in the '40s, then making him black would have a much bigger impact on the character (although having a Tuskegee-like sub-plot sounds interesting). But if it's set in the modern day, I don't see what the big deal would be about casting a black man, or even Will Smith (the guy can really act when he decides to). Captain America stands for a lot of things, but "being white" isn't one of them. Although, leave it to an article like this to really bring out the racist trolls. Yikes. Do not feed.
BRAD BEYER for Cap! by MetalMickey	Sep 9th, 2008 12:47:57 PM
http://tiny url.com/5hl6a6
Michael C. Hall as Captain America by Demode	Sep 9th, 2008 12:48:31 PM
Michael C. Hall as Captain America
Michael C. Hall as Captain America by Demode	Sep 9th, 2008 12:49:09 PM
Michael C. Hall as Captain America
KEVIN MCKIDD for THOR! by MetalMickey	Sep 9th, 2008 12:49:26 PM

If there's no news to report-- by thegreatwhatzit	Sep 9th, 2008 12:49:41 PM
(1.) Substitute some political filler (always seems to work; everyone--from both sides of the aisle--gullibly bite on this option) OR (2.) Kindle a rumor that was dumb to begin with.
Elohim by wookie1972	Sep 9th, 2008 12:56:38 PM
The WWII angle is essential to the character, IMHO. WWII is the last time people could believe that Americans were, unequivocably, fighting on the side of good against an absolute evil (why else does every despot whom the US wants to overthrow get called "the next Hitler?) That innocence has not been part of the experience of any American soldier since that war.
Gurzeon, everytime you open your mouth.. by AnakinsDiapers	Sep 9th, 2008 12:56:56 PM
..A little more becomes clearer. Not racist? Well, maybe not knowingly so. Hey, and i'm a black talkbacker who thinks Steve Rogers should be the star of the movie and should be white, so close your umbrella.
Wow, this started some $#!#, didn't it? by DatoMan413	Sep 9th, 2008 12:57:05 PM
Okay, I'm a person of color, and a comic geek, and I think Will Smith would be a good choice for the black Captain America as depicted in “Truth”, but only to establish that part of the story. I don’t have a problem with Captain America being white because I’m not stuck on the race issue. For me, get a good actor, a director that can respect the mythology and not feel he needs to spray Schumacher all over it, a studio that will stay the hell out of the way, and a story that doesn’t insult the material or the intelligence. That’s what I care about. In defense of Big Willie, he’s a good actor – I know some of you out there are now LOL over that, but it’s my opinion, so chill out. But him as Captain America is as good an idea as him being Jim West, and we know how well that went (script and all, it was @$$). I almost think that role needs to be an unknown, or at least someone who has the chops to carry it off. He has to do more that look like the man, he has to BE the man. End of Sermon.
And Thor can't talk in Shakespearean tones... by wookie1972	Sep 9th, 2008 12:57:50 PM
Stan Lee's dialogue (forsooth, etc) was utter crap.
WWW was bad for reasons by wookie1972	Sep 9th, 2008 01:02:05 PM
That had nothing to do with Smith. First and foremost, its very existence.
Thor dialogue if written by the writers of Batman Forever: by DatoMan413	Sep 9th, 2008 01:03:49 PM
"It's the hammer, right? Chicks dig the hammer." See, there are worse things than forsooth. The studio needs to do us a favor and get a GOOD SCRIPT for this one or just don't do it (fat chance).
IAmJacksUserID... by AnakinsDiapers	Sep 9th, 2008 01:04:46 PM
Wow your full of crap.Here's the difference between the black power movement and the white power movement: the black power movement is about uplifting black people while the white power movement is about uplifting whites by keeping non whites down. Big freaking difference there. Not many leaders amongst the black power movement were calling for the segregation of races and limiting access to anyone not black. Really, stop your shit.
what difference does it make? by mrbong	Sep 9th, 2008 01:09:25 PM
the lunatic fringe here (you know who you are) and across the net are going to bitch and moan no matter how decent a job they do with this Captain America film; a film which i am sure will enamour most of the Middle East. i don't give a fuck that Smith looks nowt like some comic book wet dream, if he was in it that means it would get a decent budget. sure, it would have some Barack subtext to it, but fuck it, you would get bigger explosions on screen.
Gaiman should writer T by wookie1972	Sep 9th, 2008 01:09:55 PM

"if he was in it that means it would get a decent budget. " by wookie1972	Sep 9th, 2008 01:10:54 PM

"if he was in it that means it would get a decent budget. " by wookie1972	Sep 9th, 2008 01:10:54 PM

"if he was in it that means it would get a decent budget. " by wookie1972	Sep 9th, 2008 01:14:29 PM
That's exactly why I don't want Smith. It's not that I want CA to have a low budget, I just don't want budget to influence casting in that way. It's why everyone from Burt Reynolds to John Travolta was offered Superman, and why it was so brilliant that Donner went with Reeve. What I'm saying is that they shouldn't shoehorn some actor in just because he's a big star. I thought the Nolan Batman movies proved that.
the racists should be ashamed of themselves-- by Hypestyle	Sep 9th, 2008 01:16:39 PM
instead of simply shrugging it off as just another rumor, most of fandom started ordering up Klan robes and seeking crucifixes to burn.. you all should be ashamed, get over yourselves..
Mario Lopez by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 01:21:23 PM
is kinda gayish
Hypestyle... by wookie1972	Sep 9th, 2008 01:22:57 PM
If there was a rumour that, say, Cher was playing Catwoman, it would get a similar response.
Actually, John Barrowman would be pretty good.. by wookie1972	Sep 9th, 2008 01:25:29 PM
He can fake an American accent and he looks the part. The right wing would have a fit about the whole gay Scottish thing.
I wouldn't burn a cross for Cher by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 01:26:49 PM
But I'd burn my eyes if she wore her "Turn Back Time" outfit again.
I still like Nathan Fillion.. by wookie1972	Sep 9th, 2008 01:27:45 PM
He has the right sort of square jaw handsomeness with a healthy amount of self-deprecation. Sort of like Brendan Frasier but not lame.
A wooden Captain America by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 01:29:14 PM
sorry, not digging your sexual innuendo, pal. Um... I see what you're saying,l they guy is pretty...withdrawn. I have to admit, I do have trouble seeing him leading a charge of soldiers. But I do think he has untapped action-hero potential. Sue me.
He kicked ass in Pearl Harbor by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 01:31:24 PM
well, he kicked Ben Afflecks ass in Pearl Harbor. Ok, he just punched him in the face one time, but that alone makes me pretty jealous. So... Michael Bay for Cap America anyone?
JOHN TRAVOLTA AS SHAFT by DatoMan413	Sep 9th, 2008 01:37:22 PM
Damn, that's funny. Good one, Union.
Bay can bring the jingoism by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 01:40:17 PM
I mean patriotism... whoops.
Hypestyle by NiceGuyEddie19	Sep 9th, 2008 01:42:11 PM
I'm sure black people are really glad to have you defending them and standing up for their rights. Congratulations, douche bag.
I defend Hartnett by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 01:42:55 PM
becuase he's known for being kind of wimpy, like Steve Rogers was before the juice. People thought Keaton wasn't action-y enough for Batman, but in hindsight he did very well. I see that in Hartnett somehow. I am not Josh hartnett, by the way.
Im way more handsome by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 01:43:36 PM

Honestly, Obama is only where he is because of race... by maverick68	Sep 9th, 2008 01:44:14 PM

Jesse Jackson as the comic relief by thegreatwhatzit	Sep 9th, 2008 01:51:07 PM
My dad made me heir to his home movies: Martin Luther King marching in Baltimore. Dog days of August, profusely sweating, you could fry an egg on the pavement. But Dr. King literally kept his cool. Flash forward: Jesse Jackson, engaged for a high school lecture, insists on being furnished with an air conditioned limo among other frills. America needs another King. And it sure ain't Obama. At any rate, I don't understand the nature of these "news flashes", e.g. a remake of CANDYMAN with a white actor in the title role. Hollywood is hypocritical to the max but what's with all these unfounded rumors reversing racial roles? What's next? Carmen Electra in THE COLOR PURPLE?
okay by SpawnofAchilles	Sep 9th, 2008 01:51:53 PM
so I read the shit show above (or some of it at least) I think Brad Pitt is perfect for Cap because depsite being over 40 he can still look 21 (benjamin button anyone? Chad Scmidt? He's playing 21 in both of those) and he can get buff (see Troy, he's not getting any bigger then that but for Cap I don't think he has too) he's got blonde hair, blue eyes and leadership qualities. All that being said, he will most likely never accept a role like this, unless it's looking real A list status. Damon is too ugly...sorry he just is...Someone above suggested Iceman from HBO's Generation Kill, this has been the best suggestion I've heard so far, he looks JUST like cap and seems to have some chops and he's young and built. I also agree that Aaron Eckhart would also be good and MAYBE Thomas Jane. Someone also said something about if someone played a superhero already they can't play another, which is assinine. No one really even wants to remember Jane as the Punisher and he's been replaced in that role already anyway, so who gives a shit?
and Will Smith by SpawnofAchilles	Sep 9th, 2008 01:54:40 PM
as Cap is just fucking stupid...A big part of that is because yes he is black and the beloved character of however many years is white. It also has to do with the fact that Will Smith is Will Smith (although I thought his performance in I Am Legend is really good and the first 2/3 of that film, MINUS ALL SHITTY CGI, is really good, it totally derails in the last third and the CGI is un-fucking-forgiveable)
Hypestyle, you're probably a closet racist... by thegreatwhatzit	Sep 9th, 2008 01:59:15 PM
a la Bill Clinton.
wookie by Shut the Fuck up Donny	Sep 9th, 2008 02:07:05 PM
Nathan Fillion is tempting, but he almost has TOO much swagger--a la Bruce Campbell. So, it may end up being a little corny in the context of what Marvel is trying to build here.
Brendan Fraser = Captain America by Jeff Dee	Sep 9th, 2008 02:08:56 PM
Brendan Fraser was born to play square-jawed all-American heroes of yesteryear in the same way that Patrick Warburton was born to play the Tick.
By the way Harry by NiceGuyEddie19	Sep 9th, 2008 02:09:29 PM
How's the weight loss coming?
Ok You're Not Racist... by p0llk4t	Sep 9th, 2008 02:22:46 PM
But you sure are ignorant. BTW who gives two shits about a Captain America movie except comic geeks? I guarantee the regular movie going population doesn't care. I'm sorry nerds, but Captain America isn't going to apeal to the MTV generation. Compared to Batman, Superman, Spiderman, and Ironman, the Captain is just a bit boring. I smell flop...
p0llk4t by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 02:35:46 PM
small minded thinking, homeboy. Nobody gave 2 shits about Iron Man either. Just because 'regular' movie goers don't know someone, doesn't mean it can't be a hit. In 1975, nobody knew what the hell a Darth Vader was.
Good show, Joker Gordon. by thegreatwhatzit	Sep 9th, 2008 02:40:42 PM

why were my posts yanked by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 9th, 2008 02:46:59 PM

im not sure they shoudl go with a well known by joevfx	Sep 9th, 2008 02:47:07 PM
i mean if they can find a good actor that fits Cap then they shoudl go for it and not just look for a super star. Kevin MCkidd works for Thor casue he sitn super known but is an amazing actor. Downy Jr worked for Iron man cuase he basically fell off the face of the earth after the drugs thing. Bale works for Batman cause he also isnt a super well known but a great actor.
Besides, Capt America is not boring by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 02:51:23 PM
He's a very driven, but very skinny guy who wants to be a hero. He volunteers for some f*cked up government program, and ends up stronger than he ever imagined. He gets to go overseas and fight the good fight, becoming the heart and soul of the American troops. Then he falls into a coma, and wakes up over 60 years later. His country, once proud and virtuous, has become shady and conspiratorial. Foreign relations are shit. America is seen as belligerent, careless war-mongers. Pollution is out of control. The water tastes like sludge, and the women dress like whores. People are addicted to strange drugs, and violence is everywhere. He knows America should better than it is, and he's disappointed.
i made like 4 posts yesterday - theyre all gone by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 9th, 2008 02:56:19 PM
yet guys like GurzEon are still here - was it the "milf" reference? - she is one (palin) - come on
GurzEon said earlier... by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 9th, 2008 02:58:20 PM
..."blacks suck as super heroes" - thats pretty damn racist - in my opinion
ugh, Palin by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 02:59:27 PM
Would you really f*ck her, man. Really? She's got that crazy eye thing Tom Leykis warns guys about.
Joker Gordon Levitt by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 9th, 2008 03:03:15 PM
if he were real, what are the odds captain america himself might be racist - being that he is the product of depression era america and a white guy and the whole usa manifest destiny stuff - seriously - if theyre were a real cap from that period odds are hed be racist - but that would ruin the whole fantasy - how did cap feel about japanese internment camps or the separation of black and white troops?
Captain just doesn't play today... by p0llk4t	Sep 9th, 2008 03:08:54 PM
Iron Man is high-tech, with a play boy-alter ego. Captain is basically a guy in tights with a shield. I think this character works much better in the comics. Maybe I'm wrong...perhaps we need Captain America more then ever now...
nevahagin i dont think thats what union meant by joevfx	Sep 9th, 2008 03:09:35 PM
He is just saying the character is already created. so why change something that has been know for the past 50 years. I wouldnt want to go see a Luke cage more with Sly Stollon as luke cage cause thast NOT the character. ITs not about black and white liek your makign it, If they made Cap black from the beginning then i woudl be sayign the same thign know if they wanted brad pitt to play him.
Joker Gordon Levitt, on palin by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 9th, 2008 03:09:54 PM
yes - yes i would - she is one year older than me and considering that she aint bad looking at all - i like her crazy "i gotta blow some one"-eyes - id f--k her before id f--k scriptgirl - scriptgirl could function well as a fluffer - mind you, im just talking about her looks - i hate her guts (palin) - but i gotta admit every time i see her face with that dopey grin i cant help picturing my penis in front of it - god bless america!!! - OBAMA/BIDEN 2008
NEW CATCHPHRASE: I'M NOT RACIST OR NOTHIN... by J-Dizzle	Sep 9th, 2008 03:11:34 PM
Done and done.
BTW... by p0llk4t	Sep 9th, 2008 03:12:57 PM
I'm surprised they haven't decided to go with Captain United Nations...
As one of the very few black people on this talkback... by kdog69	Sep 9th, 2008 03:24:38 PM
I agree that Will Smith shouldn't be anywhere near Captain America. However, all you that say "I'm not a racist, but blah blah blah...black superheroes suck...blah blah blah...blacks drink grape drink and drop out of school", I got news for you...you are racists for having that mindset. It just makes it worse that you don't even know it yourselves. That's called being both ignorant and racist. I'm I occasionally racist myself sometimes, sure. I make fun of white people's ignorance all the time. The difference is that I can admit it. Have a nice day:)
Saying your not racists doesn't mean SHIT by kdog69	Sep 9th, 2008 03:25:40 PM
actions speak louder than words, honkey ;)
Memories-Of-Murder by kdog69	Sep 9th, 2008 03:28:38 PM
Well I'm black, so therefore I can't spell good. It's to be expected ;)
Honkey!! by p0llk4t	Sep 9th, 2008 03:31:31 PM
Show me some respect and call me Cracker when you address me!!
Honkey W. McCracker by kdog69	Sep 9th, 2008 03:32:33 PM
:)
I'm sure "you're" right Mem... by p0llk4t	Sep 9th, 2008 03:38:54 PM
But you know at least someone in the development phase proposed that to try and appeal to the Euros...Maybe they'll change the name for the overseas market. They could just dub in "Sucks" after every "Captain America". Also, is "Euros" racist, ignorant, or just condescending? How about "Euro Trash"? That just rolls of the tongue so nicely.
actually MoM by SpawnofAchilles	Sep 9th, 2008 03:42:15 PM
in this context..."I make fun of white people's ignorance all the time. The difference is that I can admit it." It is racist because he says white people's ignorance. I make fun of all ignorance and stupidity no matter the race spewing it
your, you're by SpawnofAchilles	Sep 9th, 2008 03:44:03 PM
WHO GIVES A SHIT, I cant stand when people nitpick that one because typing your IS FUCKING CONVENIENT(two less characters on a VERY commonly typed word it's probably saved me like 10,000 man hours but keep pissing your life away typing your fancy fuckin' you're), so just, just shup up
Real World Captain America by SpawnofAchilles	Sep 9th, 2008 03:48:58 PM
I have a hard time with this also. I've never liked captain america because he always seemed like a corny blowhard to me. Now I see that many people love cap and I looked into some of the cool storylines and the WWII is epic and he is a great leader of men, so I like the character more but his powers are kinda lame (he's a heightened human, additional strength and agility but not all that much compared with most heroes and villians) and the shield thing just seems out of place, why does he have a shield, did I miss when they were handing out shields to allied forces? I really wonder if this can work live action and not be really awful. I hope it does for the avengers sake. I feel the same way about Thor, exept he is uber powerful but really out of place in modern day.
Wow Spawn... by p0llk4t	Sep 9th, 2008 03:52:04 PM
What will you do with those 10,000 man hours you saved. That's an extra 416 days you have to do something with "your" life...
"Some of my best friends are black..." by Chishu_Ryu	Sep 9th, 2008 04:09:13 PM
...usually then proceeded by a racist comment...
p0IIk4t... by londoncalling	Sep 9th, 2008 04:09:39 PM
...no, it's just immature
Demode i am glad someone is listening by GavinVanDraven	Sep 9th, 2008 04:16:24 PM
MICHAEL C HALL would be a great CAP
M-O-M by rogueleader66	Sep 9th, 2008 04:17:26 PM
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Who Would Play Falcon Then? by gad	Sep 9th, 2008 04:27:57 PM
Eh? Eh? Doesn't work that way if dude is Cap.
Michael C Hall by GavinVanDraven	Sep 9th, 2008 04:29:45 PM
emmy award nominee.... come on, the guy has great acting chops. somebody photoshop a captain america mask on the fake rolling stone mag here... see what i mean? http://www.popcritics.com/2008 /08/some-killer-dex ter-magazine-covers/ see what i mean?
londoncalling...touche by p0llk4t	Sep 9th, 2008 04:42:27 PM
I don't really consider the UK to be Euros though...I think you guys are better than that. BTW, I was in London a few months ago and most of the people I saw there were not easy on the eyes. Goddamn you mofos can drink too. I was around Piccadilly Circus at 3am and I've never seen so many drunk people in all my life. Most UKers were very cool. And yes...the weather sucked..."bad food, worse weather, Mary-Fuckin Poppins, London!"
M-O-M you insufferable asshole by Robots In Das Guys	Sep 9th, 2008 04:46:36 PM
Why are calling people out on spelling errors, when you yourself spell like shit? Is BabelFish not working for you, sweetheart?
M-O-M: "And this is a white guy talking, by the way" by Robots In Das Guys	Sep 9th, 2008 04:48:49 PM
Really, I always figured you were yellow-ish.
Big mistake, Marvel by Larry Sellers	Sep 9th, 2008 04:49:01 PM
I don't know of another African-American qualified for the role. Kal Penn as Ant-Man, anyone?
Joker Gordon Levitt by SpawnofAchilles	Sep 9th, 2008 04:54:32 PM
You may not be Josh Hartnett with his dreamy unibrow but are you Joseph Gordon Levitt?? Cause that would be awesome and we could be best friends in that case.
kdog wtf? Being a racist makes one a racist? by Larry Sellers	Sep 9th, 2008 04:55:41 PM
That's news to me. And admitting you sometimes have racist thoughts somehow absolves you of ever having been a racist? How about semantics: Not everyone has RACIST thoughts. That's a bit extreme. We're all a bit PREJUDICED about things and people we don't understand or know personally. Even if we don't like to admit it. And most people don't and won't admit it. It's called humility. Take KDOG for example, would you approach a white man you don't know one bit, and tell him he is ignorant and racist...because he's white? I seriously doubt it. Humility. No one admits to prejudice. Except for kdog, apparently who has admitted to having full-blown racist thoughts. Oh, and actions may speak louder than words but that means SHIT on a message board. We're all sitting on our asses calling each other names. Our actions here are limited. stfu
Aaron Eckhart for Cap by steelerman	Sep 9th, 2008 05:02:01 PM
Clive Owen for Red Skull
and we all know by SpawnofAchilles	Sep 9th, 2008 05:05:03 PM
BARACK OBAMA IS CAPTAIN AMERICA
Well P0llk by SpawnofAchilles	Sep 9th, 2008 05:06:51 PM
I usually spend the 416 days I save by typing "your" instead of "you're" by masturbating...a lot
oooh Clive Owen for RS by SpawnofAchilles	Sep 9th, 2008 05:08:54 PM
I like it!
p0llk4t by londoncalling	Sep 9th, 2008 05:09:52 PM
The reason we put up with bad food and weather is because we have fine beer...even the warm stuff!!! By the way, personally speaking, I wouldn't want a Captain America movie called anything else.
The Game as Capt America. by Larry Sellers	Sep 9th, 2008 05:15:08 PM
Tim Allen as Red Skull. Cameo: Armie Hammer as Thor. Nailed it.
melvin pelvis by SpawnofAchilles	Sep 9th, 2008 05:16:17 PM
I just looked cap up in wikipedia and it says all of his abilities are at the absolute peak of human conditioning, so he actually has no powers, he's just in awesome shape (maybe MICHAEL PHELPS FOR CAP???) so yeah not really powerful, it did mention the toxins thing and the healing thing but I wouldnt put Cap's endurance anywhere near Thor's. Thor is a God, Cap is a peak human (granted I believe he is more powerful then the most fit human but not by much which means spiderman is way stronger and more agile as one example) plus I used to collect marvel cards (yes I'm that cool) and they listed there powers on the back and caps shit was all low
JimmyJoe RedSky by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 05:16:53 PM
Steve Rogers is about 23 when he volunteers for the program. Before he tries to enlist, he was a fine arts student who wanted to fight the Third Reich. Obviously society was much different then; racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. And it's naive to think that young Steve wouldn't harbor a few of those ignorances. But I would like to think he was chosen for Operation:Rebirth because of his moral standing. Because he believes in justice, and honor. All the good things that make a soldier great. The serum gave him physical ability, but Steve Rogers already had his morals.
Spawn I had Marvel cards too! by Larry Sellers	Sep 9th, 2008 05:17:14 PM
His shield had better stats.
Anyway, imagine if he was a prick by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 05:19:14 PM
and then they gave him the peak physical performance shit. It'd be a disaster, but at least we could cast Dennis Leary
Dennis Leary as Guy Gardener by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 05:19:44 PM
ftw
Barack Ozombie by SpawnofAchilles	Sep 9th, 2008 05:20:49 PM
LOL
Marvel cards were the shit by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 05:21:20 PM
but garbage pail kids were waaay shittier
Barack Ozoma by SpawnofAchilles	Sep 9th, 2008 05:21:50 PM
true too haha he does look like a zombie in some strange way, but I never thought of it you goddamn mastermind!
marvel cards by SpawnofAchilles	Sep 9th, 2008 05:24:09 PM
i have fucking binders of full sets, thinking back then they might be a decent investment...turns out comic stores dont sell them and they stopped making them! and I'm laughing all the way to the poor house. I dont know if i can part with them anyway and they allow me to dispute claims on the internet about superpowers, a gift I could have never forseen but am oh so thankful for.
Joker Gordon Levitt by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 9th, 2008 05:25:24 PM
id like to think that too - and in the comics it is so - i was asking if he were real and it really happened - maybe im wrong - if he was an art student and hated nazis i guess he wouldnt say no to taking a jewish girl with a black mom to a movie in the 1930s - i would have - at the risk of being beaten up in public - i was an art student in the 1980s - OBAMA/BIDEN 2008
McCain looks like a corpse with stubby arms by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 9th, 2008 05:26:48 PM

I GOT IT by SpawnofAchilles	Sep 9th, 2008 05:27:26 PM
merge aquaman and captain america and have Captain Aqmerica played by none other then MICHAEL PHELPS, all of the underwater peoples can have big stupid looking ears so Will Smith could play his second in command! I'm pretty sure I just solved the Captain America problem, the will smith problem, the aquaman problem and racism in america...where are my accolades? I shall await you all fellating my accomplishments shortly
my dad is 72 (like McCain) and takes 4 naps a day by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 9th, 2008 05:28:47 PM

a corpse with stubby arms? by SpawnofAchilles	Sep 9th, 2008 05:30:50 PM
You're an obama supporter aren't you JimmyJoeRedSky
I don't know what's funnier... by Mr. Nice Gaius	Sep 9th, 2008 05:32:00 PM
...M-O-M's ignorant take on Captain America or the fact that nevahagin posted twice in one TB.
let us speak plainly... by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 9th, 2008 05:36:46 PM
the conservative wing and republican party is a haven for old rich assholes and dumb fearful rednecks - and of course the very devout evangelicals (the most annoying of all christian denominations) - and unfortunately for america and its standing in the world, these groups turn out to vote in droves - unlike young hip whiny liberals who find better things to do on election day - my niece is 22 and none of her same age liberal friends vote or care - she does, to her credit - but if all the people that bitch about the last 8 yrs actually voted, we might get some where - this is why we get the leaders we have - not enough people care - when Mccain wins lets see how long it is before we start another war
SpawnofAchilles by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 9th, 2008 05:39:17 PM
what gave it away einstein? - youre a "lets see how much more the republicans can fuck this country" supporter arent you
I knew it by SpawnofAchilles	Sep 9th, 2008 05:41:37 PM
I knew it (say my canidate looks like a zombie! I'll say the other guy looks like a corpse!) lol I like Obama MORE now that I realize he's a zombie running for pres, first black zombie president in US history!
whens obama going to take the gloves off... by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 9th, 2008 05:41:59 PM
and bitch slap the maverick and the milf - theyre smearing him left and right and obama is just being polite about it and not saying shit back - if he loses its his own fault
SpawnofAchilles by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 9th, 2008 05:43:38 PM
you probably never even voted
JimmyJoe by SpawnofAchilles	Sep 9th, 2008 05:43:47 PM
no I'm not actually and I don't know why your trying to insult me when I all I found funny was that you saw someone "attacking" obama (which it wasnt an attack just a funny observation) and then in true political fashion went after mccain with a similar slam...absolutely hilarious, nothing that I read of yours before that suggested anything political EINSTEIN so I dont know what your talking about
i'm non conformist by SpawnofAchilles	Sep 9th, 2008 05:44:36 PM
as in I make my own decisions not based on some party
i honestly dont see by SpawnofAchilles	Sep 9th, 2008 05:46:08 PM
the point in voting, I live in Jersey, its a Blue state, Barack is getting the electoral votes from my state no matter what I do, so why waste the time?
Spawn, I felt the same way about Kerry by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 05:50:26 PM
He won CA anyway, but still lost the election. Democrackcy.
so jimmyjoe by SpawnofAchilles	Sep 9th, 2008 05:50:31 PM
in a calm manner I want you or someone else to tell me what the repubs have done to fuck up the country the past 8 years? facts please, and I'm not republican but I like playing the devil's advocate and my parents are both very well informed republicans so I hear a lot of the propoganda from that side, I was just reading an article about how the economy has flourished under bush the past 8 years and yes now its getting bad but this always happens after a boom, can't go up forever ya know? If I'm wrong tell me so, but being a dick about it will only make you look bad
Joker Gordon by SpawnofAchilles	Sep 9th, 2008 05:51:53 PM
yeah the electoral college seems really stupid to me and makes me not see the point in voting
SpawnofAchilles by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 9th, 2008 06:00:46 PM
your hopeless - as i suspected - and you dont vote - and you defer to your parents - im a dick when it comes to guys like you - you are part of the problem - you dont vote, you dont care, you need a checklist as to what the current administration has done policy wise to fuck us over, and yet youre convinced you know just enough to remain undecided - i wont make a list, but for starters the republicans were the architects of the preemptive war we launched in 2003 - everything from the weak dollar, gas prices, the economy tanking, unemployment at record highs can all be traced to that bad call - its costing us $200 mil a day - do the math
It would have been cheaper to buy Iraq by Joker Gordon Levitt	Sep 9th, 2008 06:03:59 PM
instead of fighting for it. I mean, don't we have ANY McDonalds over there yet?
One thing about London... by p0llk4t	Sep 9th, 2008 06:05:25 PM
You see most of the same fast food places there and the prices look the same...until you remember that their money is worth double. Didn't see any Taco Bells though...but damn do they love KFC. That shit was packed at midnight. Drunk fools in there too :P Oh and it was hilarious when some guys started smoking ganja in the top level of the bus and the driver stoped and gave them shit..."Oh you idiots think everyone on this bus wants to smoke ganja with you? I'll send you all off!"
SpawnofAchilles by p0llk4t	Sep 9th, 2008 06:15:49 PM
Masturbating then...well being able to save an extra 416 days for that purpose is a valuable alocation of your time resources. You have shown me the way. Your right of course...I'm going to stop using you're forever. However, I will use my extra 416 days to get all people to stop using you're. Oh alright...I'll masturbate 415 days and 23 hours...and spend 1 hour emailing everyone I know telling them how awesome that year was.
I'm bracing myself for 4 years of "senile" jokes. by thegreatwhatzit	Sep 9th, 2008 06:45:17 PM
McCain will win by a landslide. Nothing to do with racism. Obama has just devolved from near-deity to a babbling, generic politician; besides, the Clintons have derailed his impact (Bill, a closet racist, also killed Hillary's "shoo-in" status; what the hell, she was a p.r. whore, anyway). As for all the blather, my grandad told me, "There are assholes in all races." This thread proves it.
we should just call america a theocracy by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 9th, 2008 07:00:25 PM
thats what its become - the majority of americans seem to want political policies written with "god" or "religion" in mind - specifically the christian god and the christian faith - that is how Mccain will win this election - like Bush before him - he will play the god card - Palin is a creationist that believes the war in Iraq is a mission for us from god - bull shit - there are some in the world that believe the attack on the world trade center was a mission from god - same level of bull shit
will smith should be the green lantern by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 9th, 2008 07:02:46 PM
in that movie - if its ever made - there has been a black green lantern, but theres never been a black cap america - OBAMA/BIDEN 2008
RE: Corpse with "stubby arms" by NiceGuyEddie19	Sep 9th, 2008 07:05:55 PM
I'm not trying to be an overly sensitive douche bag, and I am voting for Obama. But let me remind you fellas that McCain has stiff, stubby arms because he was held captive as a POW and had his arms broken in multiple places by those fucking animals who held him prisoner. Because he wouldn't talk to them. Because he was defending the United States of America. If that means anything to you, you should probably show him some respect and not laugh at the guy's injuries.
NiceGuyEddie19 by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 9th, 2008 07:09:27 PM
you know who else fought in viet nam "for our country"? - john kerry and al gore - they get lots of respect, right?
I have... by NiceGuyEddie19	Sep 9th, 2008 07:12:41 PM
Nothing but respect for both Kerry and Gore. But was Gore in 'Nam? I had absolutely no idea. I thought he went to college while 'Nam was happening, and was roommates with Tommy Lee Jones.
McCain thinks waterboarding is not torture by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 9th, 2008 07:15:09 PM
and he is opposed to the new g.i. bill - viet nam is a long time ago for him - ask his billionaire rodeo queen second (trophy) wife - the white house will be her 8th home since marrying McCain
Gore was there, look it up by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 9th, 2008 07:18:18 PM
with his experience, it baffles me why McCain has sided with the republicans and the right wing - i guess that side is better for a career - better seats on planes, better hotel suites, nicer golf courses etc. - ask Lieberman - thats why he switched parties
I didn't wanna get in a war of words defending McCain.. by NiceGuyEddie19	Sep 9th, 2008 07:21:01 PM
because for the third time, I am voting for Obama... I disapprove of his opposing the GI bill as that is my own primary concern, but why do we have to get into this crap about who his wife is (do you really wanna get into a Michelle Obama thing?) and as per waterboarding, I can think of a whole lot worse things many Americans would do to suspected terrorists given the chance.
NiceGuyEddie19, the reason i brought that up... by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 9th, 2008 07:46:01 PM
was to point out the hypocrisy of the republicans - i dont care either who his wife is - but theyre the ones that make shit like that a selling point for voting their way - right now theyre attacking Obama as being a vapid celebrity with no real platform - yet McCain is parading Palin around at every appearance like a show horse and not talking policy or how he will help save the middle class - she is the definition of a politician running on the strength of her celebrity status - she is (thus far) the definition of what her and McCain are bashing Obama for being - she has yet to give a real interview or speak about any policy issues or anything of substance (beyond bashing Obamas experience as a politician) - the neo cons attacked Kerry for who he married and it worked - they called him a phony and a liar married to a rich woman in order to further his career - and voters bought it - look where we are now - safer? - no - a world power? - barely - hated more than ever the world over? - yes - way to go Bush - this is what happens when idiots that get by on their "aw shucks, im a regular guy like y'all" become president - i dont give a shit how many kids Palin has, or that she let her minor daughter get pregnant by some redneck gun toting thug - im worried about the fact that she is so conservative she makes McCain look down right liberal - and she is winning him the election - scary shit man
on waterboarding by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 9th, 2008 07:48:55 PM
it is torture - we cant expect the world to uphold the geneva convention in order to safe guard american pows while we change the rules by finding loop holes in the docuement so we can torture "suspected" terrorists - its torture, plain and simple - and any cop will tell you cant get reliable info by torturing a suspect - make me think im drowning and ill confess to shit too for you to stop
Someone said it already but... by JacksParasites	Sep 9th, 2008 07:50:43 PM
I think Matt Damon would be a good choice for Cap. He's a good actor and hasn't already played any other comic book characters. I hate when actors play more than one comic book character. I'm looking at you, Halle Berry.
Reb Brown was a good captain America by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 9th, 2008 07:51:36 PM
remember him?
JimmyJoe by NiceGuyEddie19	Sep 9th, 2008 08:09:42 PM
Do you think we can expect terrorists to hold up the Geneva Convention anyway, completely regardless of what we do!!?
Aaron Eckhardt for captain america. by Warcraft	Sep 9th, 2008 08:23:55 PM
his face is very super heroic, and he's a great actor, and looks like the dude, so he get's my vote.
Anybody can be Captain America by Chishu_Ryu	Sep 9th, 2008 08:49:00 PM
That's the point of the character. Steve Rogers was an ordinary American whose physique was less than ordinary, but he was a true patriot. All that was missing was a shot of Super Soldier serum. Not everybody could be Superman, not everybody could be Batman, not everybody could be Spiderman, not every could even really be Iron Man. But like a hero such as Green Lantern, chosen more for heart than ability, anybody with true blue American ideals could be Captain America. Steve Rogers, Isaiah Bradley, Bucky Barnes, John McCain, Barack Obama, your mother, anybody could be Captain America. I think that's what Stan Lee was getting at.
Oh and f**k Aaron Eckhardt... by Chishu_Ryu	Sep 9th, 2008 08:49:52 PM

Usain Bolt as The Black Panther!!! by ZeroCorpse	Sep 9th, 2008 10:03:33 PM
If he can act, that is.
any word by aabiohazard1972	Sep 9th, 2008 10:05:44 PM
What about Marc Blucas he played Riley Finn on Buffy anyone know if he has skill looks and chops to pull this off?
THE shield by aabiohazard1972	Sep 9th, 2008 10:15:46 PM
Earlier I saw someone ask about his shield; as you can imagine there were numerous secret programs in WWII this shield supposedly was an attempt to create a variant of Adamantium (like any fan boy doesn't know what this ties into)an unbreakable metal, that in comics sometimes claimed the shield was called a adamantium/viberainum alloy mix; and a complete accidental bonding of the two metals allowed this one time creation of an unbreakable disc on a par with Thor's indestructible hammer made of Uru (one could theorize that we meaning America stole it from the Germans who had some Uru metal samples...ok sounded cool). truthfully that particular origin of the bonding has been left wide open by the mighty Stan the man Lee for a damn good story in and of itself.
am I always the last to post? by aabiohazard1972	Sep 9th, 2008 10:28:11 PM

SMITH NOT CAP, BUT DWAYNE JOHNSON IS SUPERMAN!!! by Shermdawg	Sep 9th, 2008 10:38:09 PM
But does Warner Bros. realize that?
just so you know..here's what they should do by JERRY HORROR	Sep 9th, 2008 10:57:02 PM
pick an unknown. Give a guy whom has no marquee value a shot. That way the actor has no preconceived baggage coming into the role. I personally believe it's far cooler to create a star and have an aura of mystery surrounding the man playing him. Steve Rogers is out there, he just hasn't gotten a big break yet.... www.myspace.com/jerryhorror
THIS RUMOR WAS AS FAKE AS THE EXISTENCE by punto	Sep 9th, 2008 11:05:05 PM
OF THE Tuskeegee Airmen!
F**k Matt Damon... by Chishu_Ryu	Sep 9th, 2008 11:16:18 PM

Bit late to the party but am on the Alexander Skarsgard. bandwag by Miyamoto_Musashi	Sep 9th, 2008 11:19:02 PM
He was great in Generation Kill. Do they really need an expensive actor ala Matt Damon for this part. Am sure they could have a name actor or two as a supporting character. ) Has Shia put his name up for Bucky yet ? ...kidding would hate to see that.
Cap America - Story by Miyamoto_Musashi	Sep 9th, 2008 11:35:16 PM
What is the proposed or rumoured story for the movie, anyone let me know of any links ? Assume WW2 setting with Cap falling into the arctic oceans at the end.
If films execs and researchers diliberately put this rumour out by Damien Chowder	Sep 9th, 2008 11:51:15 PM
to see the feedback... PLEASE MAKE WILL SMITH CAPTAIN AMERICAN!!!! No joke please!!!
Cap should be 30, maximum by blindambition238	Sep 10th, 2008 12:00:29 AM
Remember, he just graduated or dropped out of college before he enlisted into the Army, cause he was that eager. Also, one more time, Jamie Bamber, has basically been playing Steve Rogers for the past 4 or 5 years on BSG. Might as well give him a shot. Plus he's already used to dealing with geeks and will work for a lower wage than any of the big names already suggested.
Will Smith as Bucky ? That's funny by Toby___Wong	Sep 10th, 2008 02:18:06 AM
considering that Bucky in slang means black ass. When Jonhny Walker became the new Captain America and Lemar became Bucky some complaints came in the letter page. Someone explained the editor that Bucky was a racist name. If I remember correctly they stopped calling Lemar Bucky. Hollywood would not be that stupid to have a black Bucky, now would they ? However, seeing as how racist Hollywood was in western movies and Tarzan movies it wouldn't surprise me at all if they had a black Bucky.
I like the way you think Miyamoto I said by SID 8.0	Sep 10th, 2008 04:42:06 AM
the same thing yesterday about Alexander Skasgard. He looks like the best choice by a mile. His work on Gen. Kill is proof enough.
UWE BOLL AS CAPTAIN REPUBLICAN! by LaserPants	Sep 10th, 2008 05:42:26 AM
His failures as a director mirror the failures of the political party so completely that I suspect they are actually THE SAME ENTITY!
re: Alexander Skarsgard by Chishu_Ryu	Sep 10th, 2008 05:43:06 AM
Yeah, put a VIKING in the role of Cap. Sure. He might make a suitable Thor, but not Cap. I think I've officially joined the "please don't cast a blue-eyed blonde haired stereotype aryan as Cap" club....
Oh come on Skarsgard would be perfect by SID 8.0	Sep 10th, 2008 06:42:36 AM
you know it. And why shouldn't the actor look like the character. I know it's a little out there but it just might work. Or how about the guy who played Captain America in Gen. Kill. Now that would be funny since he looks nothing like the character. If they had done this 6 years ago Tom Jane would've been perfect but now too old. Skarsgard is 28 and 6'4" just sign him already.
So, GurzEon was banned and all his posts removed? by V'Shael	Sep 10th, 2008 07:30:05 AM
Wow.
Ed Harris as Blacula!!!!!!!! by Cachun	Sep 10th, 2008 08:50:00 AM
Yeah, baby, look my dazzling head and gimme your blooooood!!!!!!!
Samuel L. Jackson as Professor Quatermass!!!!!! by Cachun	Sep 10th, 2008 08:53:25 AM
Look at these mothafuckin´ martians!!!!!
Clint Eastwood as Spike Lee!!!!!! by Cachun	Sep 10th, 2008 08:54:49 AM
Perhaps I should shut my face!!!!!
Dave Chapelle as Indiana Jones!!!!!!!! by Cachun	Sep 10th, 2008 09:00:32 AM
I´m Indiana Jones, bitch!!!!!!
Thora Birch as Jackie Brown!!!!!!!! by Cachun	Sep 10th, 2008 09:03:53 AM
Yeah, I know I don´t have the age the character requires, but look at these pair of boobs!!!!!
Harrison Ford as Rick James!!!!! by Cachun	Sep 10th, 2008 09:05:29 AM
I´m Rick James, Calista!!!!!!!!!
Damon Wayans as Inspector Clouseau!!!!!!!!!! by Cachun	Sep 10th, 2008 09:09:21 AM
and Javier Bardem as Kato!!!!!
Denzel Washington as George W. Bush!!!!!!!!! by Cachun	Sep 10th, 2008 09:12:43 AM
and Tara Reid as Condoleezza Rice!!!!!!!
Michael Jai White as Alfred Pennyworth!!!!!! by Cachun	Sep 10th, 2008 09:19:37 AM
With respect, sir, I´ll kick your tortured ass!!!!!!
nathan fillion by im nar	Sep 10th, 2008 09:42:22 AM
only nathan fillion has everything it takes to be cap. he can act, has done action before, he has charisma, and looks like a leader. i don't know why marvel is wasting time...nathan fillion is captain america...even though he is from canada.
How come Will Smith pronounces Asked as Axed by ArcadianDS	Sep 10th, 2008 10:08:53 AM
but he can say "My stretch Escalade" with no problem? Because he's a phony. He's got this whole 'I was growed up onna mean streets, yo." when he was always a privileged suburban brat. His crazy street accent has been an act from the very beginning.
im nar what a great suggestion!! He is the only one. by Damien Chowder	Sep 10th, 2008 10:21:08 AM
Handsome yet not cheesy handsome. Unlike other good looking guys can also act. He is tall enough and just about the right physique. With a bit of muscle toning I can't see another Cap.
re: Nathan Fillion by Chishu_Ryu	Sep 10th, 2008 11:36:06 AM
A Canadian to play Captain America!? Captain Canuck, or Major Maple Leaf, maybe, but not Captain Goddamn America!! Why don't we just get Arnold Schwarzeneggar or Hugh Jackman to play the Man in Red, White, and Blue? There should be a new rule: If you can't run for President of the United States, you can't be Captain America! Savvy?
casting for Cap and Thor by paulyd30	Sep 10th, 2008 11:57:09 AM
OK John Cena the american Man for Cap and Triple H for Thor enough said no CGI jusr real Men. Will Smith sould play Green Lantern John Stewart http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J ohn_Stewart_(comics)
I wouldn't have had a problem with it. by Cotton McKnight	Sep 10th, 2008 12:02:39 PM
I hate to pull out the race card, and in fact I had no intention of doing so- but then Arcadian had to say "how come Will Smith pronounces asked as axe". He does not. Goodness people, get a life. Anyway, I wouldnt have had a problem with it, just so long as it was a serious role and not some of the wisecracking hotshot stuff he has done in the past.
Arcadian DS.. by Cotton McKnight	Sep 10th, 2008 12:05:22 PM
where are you getting this information? Are you confusing Will Smith with Vanilla Ice? What in the world are you talking about? I have never heard him talk about his "escalade" or growing up in the hood. Yeah he grew up in Philadelphia. Big deal. He's the "nice guy" of rap. Remember his famous line "I don't have to curse in my rap to sell records?". Good grief, man.
Re: Chishu_Ryu by im nar	Sep 10th, 2008 12:44:49 PM
i'd rather have someone that respects the fans and character enough to do a good job. nathan fillion is one of the few respected actors that doesn't mind pandering to fan boys. most people don't even realize he is canadian... also...canada is part of america...so why is bad him playing captain america? he isn't playing captain united states... did you have an issue with sir ben kingsley playing the VP in Dave?? i just love when people in the u.s. act like the united states is the only part of america. i guess mexico and canada don't exist.
Isn't captain America by ScaryJim	Sep 10th, 2008 03:15:08 PM
Kind of rubbish? Well he is isn't he ? In that ridiculously garish suit, all bleeding happy and American. Throwing a sheild at people.
wasn't the original "Batman Begins" Alfred black? by punto	Sep 10th, 2008 03:21:23 PM
from the "GORDON HAS A BEER AND CHEATS ON HIS WIFE" script
ArcadianDS by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 10th, 2008 03:48:41 PM
you might be right about smith's use of "axed" - or maybe not - i went to college in ny - and a friend of mine there was from a white suburb in long island - he said "axe" and 'axed" too - he didnt seem aware of it when i pointed it out - mind you he also talked like someone from long island or brooklyn, the ny accent we here in movies - i dont think he was faking - i think some people say certain words a certain way because of how they heard them growing up - or because of their provincial way of speaking a disconnect occurs when saying or attempting to say certain words - in other words, they dont hear it coming out of their mouths as wrong - like the way so many people say "nucular" instead of "nuclear"
the blonde guy from "sex and the city" by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 10th, 2008 03:51:31 PM
the guy that was dating rosario dawson - im embarrassed that i even know this shit - anyway - he looks the part - he looks like a kirby drawing
Punto by blindambition238	Sep 10th, 2008 05:31:39 PM
Yep, he was black and spoke jive. Also, if I remember correctly, the end of the film had him telling Bruce that he "needs to get laid" and exclaiming "It's on now!" Is it wrong that, out of morbid curiosity, I wouldn't have minded seeing that over Nolan's movies?
You racist do realize there was a Black Captain America, Right? by Phategod2	Sep 10th, 2008 06:37:06 PM
thats besides the the point Michael C Hall would be a good (white Cap) along with Eckhart and that guy with the square jaw in Mad Men.
And dont hore wrestlers by Phategod2	Sep 10th, 2008 06:41:40 PM
With the exception of Roddy Piper and Dwayne Johnson They can not fucking act.
Hire by Phategod2	Sep 10th, 2008 06:43:28 PM
sorry but they can't
Cast... by DigitalBeachWar	Sep 10th, 2008 07:26:37 PM
Obama as Captain America... McCain as Redskull and Palin as an attack dog.
Pure electricity .....in my pants by TRON	Sep 10th, 2008 08:03:22 PM

No one screamed bloody murder when White... by ganymede3010	Sep 10th, 2008 08:13:57 PM
Actress Angelina Jolie was cast as Daniel Pearls wife. Or when Robert Downey Jr. was cast in Tropic Thunder. **CRICKETS***
Why not cast a Smith as Superman? by Juemad	Sep 10th, 2008 09:23:11 PM
Or Lucy Lu as Wonder Woman? Because the characters are who they are. Would people be upset if Blade was cast with Jean Claude Van Damme instead of Wesley Snipes? Yes, they would. Would that make them racist? No, it wouldn't. Come to think of it, they should cast Jean Claude to play Wonder Woman, and not considering a man for the role would be sexist.
This arguement doesn't apply to Superman. by Shermdawg	Sep 10th, 2008 10:15:32 PM
He's alien. And how do we know there wasn't any half black-half samoan lookin' kryptonians? ;)
im sold, sorta by JimmyJoe RedSky	Sep 11th, 2008 12:22:19 AM
having thought about it some more - why not - i mean unless steve rogers was frozen and then thawed for this decade or if the movie is about ww2 - why not have smith or a black actor be cap? - he can be the current or new cap - references can be made to steve rogers and the origins of the super soldier program - steve rogers can even be in it, passing the shield and duty/title to the new cap (smith or whoever) - makes sense - because the modern 15 yr old boy wont give a shit that the original cap was white or probably even know who steve rogers is - nowadays these comics are read and reread by adults mostly - i collect comics, i never see any kids in my shop - studios want to sell tickets - the whole point of making comics into movies is the revenue - filling seats with the non-comic readers asses - why do you think iron man and tdk did so well? - the comics? - im not saying disregard the origin stories or change tested mythology, but dont tie your hands with them either
Just what we need.... by aportee	Sep 11th, 2008 10:28:01 PM
when times are beginning to change for a white man to retake his throne and be called captain america for this present day. What a great message to promote across the country. Also, The captain america movie will totally bomb overseas cause nobody wants to see a white guy dressed up being called capt America. That's why having will smith play capt america would make a whole lot of sense.
Wow. Old thread. by mrfan	Dec 27th, 2008 11:16:52 AM
Guess I cannot be first. hehehehe
Hell, this aint nothin' by Orcus	Dec 29th, 2008 10:37:28 AM
Boy does Orcus has some stories to tell you

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