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Hopefully...
by ReynoldsIsGod
Sep 7th, 2008
06:15:13 AM
More Columbine than Fahrenheit...
This talkback will explode in
by blindambition238
Sep 7th, 2008
06:16:10 AM
5,4,3,2,1...
i vote for not seeing this movie....
by BatPsycho
Sep 7th, 2008
06:16:52 AM
that guy just gets on my nerves
The key thing about Obama
by kwisatzhaderach
Sep 7th, 2008
06:32:00 AM
is that he doesn't believe in creationism. Election in the bag.
How can anyone buy anything he says...
by Alucinor
Sep 7th, 2008
06:33:38 AM
when he clearly wants you to vote for his candidate? How come whenever they do a go out and vote campaign they get a bunch of obviously Liberal celebrities to tell kids to vote? They might as well just be campaigning for Obama. I also love how they make it seem like Michael Moore is creating some kind of revolution where he gets all the credit. It's a revolution maaaan we're gonna get Bush out of office he needs to go! Actually, his terms up. No matter what, he leaves anyway. Damn you Viggo Mortenson! How can people buy a revolution telling kids to get off the couch, when it looks like Michael Moore hasn't left his in 20 years?! You want to get kids to vote? Kids are uninformed and easily manipulated... I wonder why this "revolution" really exists?
I'd like to see...
by Doc_Hudson
Sep 7th, 2008
06:34:10 AM
Palin gut that asshole....:)
the only way we'll ever see change...
by handsfortalking
Sep 7th, 2008
06:41:20 AM
is if no one votes. by voting, you adhere to a system that is broken in order to improve the system. by standing as one body and not voting, we, as a collective, can begin true reform. popular vote doesn't count for anything anymore. rant = done.
blindambition238
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Sep 7th, 2008
07:37:32 AM
Eight postings in an hour. Hardly an explosion. I have no interest in Michael Moore fairy tales, or at least one-sided "documentaries." I miss the old Michael Moore who actually did this in the TV Nation days.
Jeeze, he gives a days worth of Ramen, but no...
by Gearfree
Sep 7th, 2008
07:37:39 AM
Redbull? I think the idea that should be pushed is to make it unacceptable for someone not to vote.
handsfortalking
by bibble 3000
Sep 7th, 2008
07:38:00 AM
that sounds too easy
Isn't this just "Captain Mike" with a new name?
by Durendal
Sep 7th, 2008
07:38:44 AM
'Cause "Captain Mike Across America" was largely blasted as being a self-indulgent ego project.
What would Jesus bomb?
by tremblays
Sep 7th, 2008
07:43:27 AM
?
he doesn't believe in creationism...
by bibble 3000
Sep 7th, 2008
08:01:40 AM
but he does believe in magic
Alucinor...
by lsleelee
Sep 7th, 2008
08:43:21 AM
I strongly disagree with you politically. But I also strongly agree with Moriarty's "why the fuck are you bitching about politics on AICN?" so all I'll mention is that I am 100% with you on "How can people buy a revolution telling kids to get off the couch, when it looks like Michael Moore hasn't left his in 20 years?!"
Eddie Vedder
by lsleelee
Sep 7th, 2008
08:44:41 AM
Also, I love Eddie, and if his segments focus on him PERFORMING at these events I'll watch the doc just for that. But if focuses on him TALKING...noooo way. Dude makes HARRY sound concise and consistent.
I hate Moore, but he's almost always right
by dr sauch
Sep 7th, 2008
08:48:29 AM
We need to expel the conservative disease from this country. I mean, I believe in apple pie and guns just as much as the next red-blooded American, but when thats ALL you vote on (guns, gays, and fetuses) then you are dragging the rest of us down OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!!!!
Doc_Hudson
by dr sauch
Sep 7th, 2008
08:53:40 AM
I think that Palin will be on the receiving end of the gutting when she has to debate Biden. She is such a fucking prop, such mindless fluff to rile up the republican base. Before I catch shit, let me say, I like her. i think she is a good person, and great mother, and I respect her principles. She is also the most negligently inappropriate choice for VP. I know she was added to the ticket to get a poll bump, and thats understandable, its working. But imagine they win, and then she actually has to go speak with Russia, with Iran, with China. Do you really want that "aw shucks" demeanor and middle-America appeal representing us abroad? Has it worked the past 8 years?
Complete biased liberal brain washing.
by WhyteMaN
Sep 7th, 2008
08:54:17 AM
Seriously
by WhyteMaN
Sep 7th, 2008
08:58:41 AM
This is not about tryin to get people to vote. Its about trying to get them to vote democrat. Celebrity sponsers are used by marketing companies to get you to buy their product. Introduce a likable familiar face to all the lemmings out there and they will follow. How bout getting youth to vote without telling them who to vote for.
It's not a documentary if it's totally biased
by SnowDogs
Sep 7th, 2008
09:06:55 AM
It's propaganda. And there's not a chance in Hell I will watch this tripe.
All documentaries have a bias.
by rbatty024
Sep 7th, 2008
09:26:16 AM
Hell, Ken Burns films have some kind of argument or point they're trying to make, so they too have a bias. I think Moore is at least honest about where he's coming from. He's not trying to trick you into thinking that he's not arguing from a liberal point of view.
So then: if you're a cheerleader for the Left, you'll love this
by SnowDogs
Sep 7th, 2008
09:28:00 AM
And if not, stay far, far away.
lsleelee
by Alucinor
Sep 7th, 2008
09:32:08 AM
Hey, I never said what any of my politics really are... I don't think you have to be a Republican to see through Michael Moore. But, I think arguing about politics is a good thing no matter where we are. None of us have an agenda on AICN... we are just voicing an opinion. If we weren't arguing about this, we would be arguing about what movie is good or bad. Same thing. Maybe people will try and research and formulate an actual opinion if we spark a debate that people want to be a part of. It beats a a million uninformed morons going out and voting when they don't even know what their party stands for.
Really, if you hate Moore, you are...
by wilsonfisk89
Sep 7th, 2008
10:22:44 AM
most likely a War Mongering, Brainwashed hick. Face it. And unfortunately you are the scum that may put McSame in the White House.
Alucinor...
by Animorganimate
Sep 7th, 2008
10:35:59 AM
Uh, this movie was filmed during the 2004 election. So there was a desire to get Bush out of office without his two terms being played out. What Michael Moore was doing was very revolutionary in an attempt to get a would-be dictator out of a democratic form of government. Of course, I use some of those terms lightly. Don't want any conservatives panties to be bunched.
This is coming to DVD...
by shineboxmp
Sep 7th, 2008
10:42:10 AM
...Disinfo is putting it out and it's being packaged in a two-pack with "This Divided State", the movie made about his stop on the tour to utah... (www.thisdividedstate.com)... At least that's what I hear.
Nice idea !
by sledge
Sep 7th, 2008
10:53:34 AM
If only more filmmakers did this now and again.
Alucinor
by Gelatinousman
Sep 7th, 2008
11:16:27 AM
How come whenever they do a go out and vote campaign they get a bunch of obviously Liberal celebrities to tell kids to vote? Where are the conservatives celebrities anyway. Why dont they do a go out and vote campaign ?
bring on the politics!
by soup74
Sep 7th, 2008
11:22:44 AM
i disagree with people that say our political arguments have no place on AICN.

just because we all enjoy film here doesnt mean we dont also have political views. im quite interested in what my peers have to say.

maybe it doesnt fit in the talkback for 'The Mummy 6' but harry, and the rest of us, are fully aware that the michael moore talkback is going to get heated.
Actually, you don't have to be a right winger to hate Michael Mo
by Ckuouka
Sep 7th, 2008
11:23:51 AM
i find that fat idiot complete despicable. Hell, did you read his self-centered bullshit in Rolling Stone, where he listed six ways Obama can lose the election, and number six was "denounce me?!?"

Apparently, denouncing him is not denouncing a man, but millions of people who he represents. Fuck him. And what about his creative splicing of different Charlton Heston speeches in "Bowling for Columbine?" You don't think that when he does that, it doesn't discredit anyone who actually stands against the right wingers? How can we claim to be better than them when we're just as big a bunch of liars as they are? Fuck Michael Moore's obese ass and, while we're at it, fuck Rosie O'Donnell too. They are an embarrassment to anyone who actually thinks this administration has been a disaster.
and alucinor..
by soup74
Sep 7th, 2008
11:25:34 AM
no one is stopping the conservative celebrities from campaigning, but they usually dont. (well, they dont to the younger demographic.. which is why tend to alienate the younger demographic.)
He's irrelevant.
by RetroActive
Sep 7th, 2008
11:28:24 AM
So are his narrow minded documentaries. He's had his moments of clarity and done some cool segments within his work, but on the whole, he's so biased Moore can hardly be called a documentary filmmaker...he's more a lobbyist, particularly for himself, more than anything.
rbatty024 I disagree
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Sep 7th, 2008
11:52:39 AM
March of the Penguins, great documentary. Super Size Me: Spurlock deliberately included a guy who eats AT LEAST one Big Mac a day and is rail thin. He also gave McDonald's a very fair chance to be interviewed, and they didn't respond. He showed fat people, thin people, and plugged personal responsibility.
Palin is not a good mother.
by Harold-Sherbort
Sep 7th, 2008
12:12:10 PM
How could you say she's a good mother, when she uses her kids to get sympathy votes. "Oh, everybody. Look at my little retard. Look at my 17 year old daughter Juno.My family is so diverse. And all you women out there who were raped by their daddies and uncles and brothers and cousins, and got pregnant, only to kill the child. Shame on you. You're going to hell. Now who wants to go to the GUN RANGE!!! Yeah. I'm a pit bull with lipstick!!" FUCKING CUNT.
Palin has my vote
by Varakor
Sep 7th, 2008
12:18:37 PM
my penis told me so and my penis never lies cause me and my penis are like X that son!
RE: Harold-Sherbort
by StarQrtrs
Sep 7th, 2008
12:21:41 PM
FUCKING AMEN brother... you made me make my first post ever on AICN. Keep up the good work Harold. =)
If you get your opinions from Digg and the Daily Show...
by Frisco
Sep 7th, 2008
12:32:58 PM
...then please don't vote. Honestly, that's more pathetic than an "I ain't never voted outside the party in all my 70 years" lock-step oldster.
This is about the 2004 election
by loserguy3000
Sep 7th, 2008
12:40:00 PM
Moore does support Obama, but Slacker Uprising (from what I've read) is footage from his US Tour during the 2004 election, when his Fahrenheit 9-11 film came out.

Also, to those calling Palin a cunt, please chill. There's really no need for that type of language...k? Seriously guys.

I found the press release on this film right here, if you want to see it and the trailer for the film

http://tinyurl.com/6em4tm
Harold-Sherbort
by Bloo
Sep 7th, 2008
12:46:18 PM
as opposed to Obama who uses his kids on TV much more then Palin does? Puts them on freaking EXTRA with him and then complains about it, puts them on the cover of magazines, and then compalins about it, uses them on stage with him? To my recollection, and I haven't watched that much, but Palin has had her kids up 2 or 3 times (announcement, nomination, maybe a few other times)

Politicans have always used their kids, weather it be the cited examples of Palin and Obama, Or GW Bush and his daughters talking at conventions, or the Clintons, or JFK, it's a common tactic used to humanize a politician weather they be Republican or Democrat

Even if you don't like Moore
by Garbage
Sep 7th, 2008
01:11:26 PM
and the fact that he "manipulates," shall we say, his subjects and so forth, I'll watch his films just to see what truths lie behind the spin/propaganda. The guy does make some pretty good points, even if he makes them in kind of hysterical, sentimental ways. Heck, Bill O'Reilly makes some pretty strong arguments as well, and I'm well aware of that. Just because Moore's an attention hog, and just because O'Reilly's a jerk, doesn't mean that everything they say should be ignored if you sit on the right and/or left side of the political spectrum. Partisan politics makes me bleed from the ear. Let your brains, and not your adopted ideologies, decide your opinions. P.S. Hey, we're having a federal election in Canada on October 14. You're all invited--as Canadian elections go, it could be somewhere between "average" and "moderately interesting," so hold onto your hats!
Palin is the woman you all dream about
by SnowDogs
Sep 7th, 2008
01:22:11 PM
But don't get all misogynistic just because she wouldn't go out with you. There's always Hillary as your fallback.
Bloo.
by Harold-Sherbort
Sep 7th, 2008
01:22:22 PM
I never said I liked Obama either. And I think it's the motive behind the act. All politicians are for the most part, wolves in bears clothing. People need to realize that man can't fix things. All we can do is make the drive to oblivion a little less quiet.
loserguy3000
by Harold-Sherbort
Sep 7th, 2008
01:24:23 PM
You're right. That language is unnecessary. She's just a twat.
Palin is on the cover of People
by narayan1121
Sep 7th, 2008
01:38:40 PM
with her kids. And she's been in the national spotlight for all of one week. So yes, she's doing the same shit Obama is, but even quicker, so STFU.
If Palin is as amazing as the right says she is...
by otm shank
Sep 7th, 2008
02:20:43 PM
then let her be interviewed. Let her answer random questions from different media. Stop locking her away up in Alaska, and have her come on down and back her shit up. If you think you have the chops to take on the second most powerful job in the world, the vanilla media in this country should not prove too challenging.
Bloo
by StarQrtrs
Sep 7th, 2008
02:23:55 PM
It's one thing to bring out your kids to show off during a speech.. it's anything thing to take out a 5 month old infant at 10pm+ to a very loud and packed house to show off that you're a mother to all of America. To me as a parent that shows that you're desperate to project an image more so then protecting your family. As for the 17 year old, man what she must be feeling. We can only hope she's 100% behind her decision like her mother is. If even 1% of her wants to give it up or have an abortion then she's completely fucked because that family isn't going to let her do that.
Habeas Corpse...
by Harold-Sherbort
Sep 7th, 2008
02:31:03 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Sorry.
I think Michael Moore has succeeded in his efforts
by bismarckf
Sep 7th, 2008
02:35:56 PM
with F9/11 and Sicko -- I don't think there's any chance that Bush will win the election this year. High five, MM! You're a genius!
Harold-Sherbort
by WhyteMaN
Sep 7th, 2008
02:51:38 PM
Thanks for you posts. It makes me feel better that there are just as many ignorant people on the left side as there are on the right. Keep yer voice heard brother! You deserve a cookie.
Is this to coincide with American Carol?
by PirateEmery
Sep 7th, 2008
02:59:49 PM
Right on about Palin's daughter, StarQrtrs
by kaylum
Sep 7th, 2008
03:41:21 PM
Don't forget, she not only has to have the baby whether she wants to or not but has to marry the father (who I'm sure is totally ok with it himself. Right.). But by far the most galling thing is that Palin actually vetoed more money to help teen mothers. Why are so many conservatives so gung-ho about making sure babies get born no matter what the circumstances yet opposed to pretty much all the programs set up to help them?
Not defending Palin...however...
by loserguy3000
Sep 7th, 2008
03:46:40 PM
Its craziness to me that such normal minded people would become (as they always do) political junkies and motivated armies defending their respective parties come Presidential Time. Every four years, like clockwork they change like werewolves, engaging in despicable debate and slinging disgusting slanders that even contradicts their respective party creeds.

As for as Sarah Palin goes, its been interesting watch her go from relative unknown to superstar status faster than...well, faster than just about anyone. Those feelings of political inexperience, that she's unqualified to be VP (or P) and that she's little more than a celebrity...those feelings of disbelief that people would actually like what they hear.... Well, that's what many GOP and Independents felt and still feel about Obama. Its not an intellectual argument, but a real human reaction to what's become a cult of personality.

I come to AICN and whenever there's anything remotely political (as the heads here are often apt to rile the masses), I just know that these talkbacks will degenerate into the same frothing, hate-speech filled rhetoric strewn from their respective campaigns. I can just about HEAR the Obama and McCain talking points being whispered into the ears of those who would call themselves patriots, to the disgust of those who think differently. Would Obama stand for Palin being called a cunt? Would McCain stand for Obama still being mislabeled a Muslim?

To the talkbacker who cried the recent Obama talking point of Palin not giving interviews - GIVE IT A REST. Life is what happens between hasty blogging posts, and she's being interviewed on ABC News tonight. There's no shielding, and just remember that Obama's recent interview on O'Reilly was his HIGHEST viewed interview since the election started.

So I'll plead for sanity, but surely get more of the hate-speech and nonsense by charlatans masquerading as politically-fair minded people. I can't wait until the election is over, and the werewolves morph back into the regular type of people we can stand again, because right now y'all are just pissing each other off.

Both Obama and McCain campaigns want you fighting...want you hopping onto forums like this, posting vile, insipid bile for them (for free, too) so they don't have to. You think you're doing a political service, but you're all doing a political DISSERVICE and deep down you know it. You're not changing anyone's minds, those cheers are from the peanut gallery, and when it's all down you'll just have sad memories of how you should've acted more maturely. Quit that shit now and feel better sooner...because if the candidates want work, they can surely pay for it.

That's all.
Why so many people complain about Palin?
by conbarba
Sep 7th, 2008
03:57:33 PM
he was great as an ex-leper
Whyteman...
by Harold-Sherbort
Sep 7th, 2008
03:57:36 PM
I hate em all.
Banzai..
by Harold-Sherbort
Sep 7th, 2008
04:16:38 PM
Yes. Having McCain in office is something to gloat about. No matter who wins, we all lose.
Wasn't Gen X the ones who were slackers?
by jccalhoun
Sep 7th, 2008
04:18:00 PM
Way to be current and hip with the kids by using a title of a movie from 1991 to talk about today's youth... Nice job grandpa...
FUCK that FUCK
by RexGattling
Sep 7th, 2008
04:18:31 PM
Yes.
by Harold-Sherbort
Sep 7th, 2008
04:29:38 PM
Gay times call for Gay quotes.
Wow, so many Republicans.
by iamnicksaicnsn
Sep 7th, 2008
04:50:08 PM
Fools. If a wrench isn't working (eg the Republicans in office, Bush, McCain), you don't stick with that wrench, you get a new wrench. Heck, maybe that new wrench won't work either, but you don't stubbornly stick with the wrench that wasn't working.
Moore has admitted that this one preaches directly to the choir.
by iamnicksaicnsn
Sep 7th, 2008
04:50:56 PM
So quit your belly-aching. OBAMA/BIDEN '08!
25 years of Supreme & lower federal court justices are at stake
by BrandLoyalist
Sep 7th, 2008
05:03:44 PM
It's not just the Supreme Court's judges who get lifetime appointments; it's lower federal appeals courts and district courts too, and a lot of important decisions never make it to Mr. Roberts' neighborhood.

Vote your asses off people, and vote for the Dems. The last thing we need is another 4 years of some mainstream Republican picking judges who'll sit for decades and consistently come down on the side of big corporations over small businesses, the environment, and you.

It's funny, but the only people in our country that concern themselves with the composition of the Supreme Court, pro-lifers, will probably never get what they want out of it. I'm not trying to be inflammatory, but the simple fact is that those folks have been manipulated by the GOP for the past 30 years.
AHHHHHHHH!!!
by Animorganimate
Sep 7th, 2008
05:04:42 PM
Whoever votes for McCain/Palin is what's wrong with this country.
And by the above post...
by Animorganimate
Sep 7th, 2008
05:07:46 PM
...I mean whoever votes for McCain/Palin is an outright hypocrite! Democracy means freedom of choice and a government ruled by the people. Not this stale institute we've been forced to live with for the last 200+ years. So STFU already.
I guess this talkback is dead...
by Animorganimate
Sep 7th, 2008
05:21:52 PM
I didn't mean to offend anyone with my last post...except for the right-wing freaks who are stuck in the past and think 'progressive' only means a better deal on their car insurance. I just can't believe there are still people out there (again, I'm looking at you you conservative Neanderthals) that give into the often times archaic beliefs of old time "new age" democracy, when currently such a better deal is being offered to them. Live with it conservatives! This country needs to change for the BETTER...and not stay the same old REPUBLIC that is bound to fall over time if it doesn't get its head out of its own ass! Learn from the past, and help shape a better future. As a side not, Palin is such a male oriented bitch-slap to women that any XX-chromosome mammal that votes for her is the perfect pander-whore for the republicans. I hope you feel good about yourselves if you choose that dark-side of the path.
Love that guy!!!!!
by TedSallis
Sep 7th, 2008
05:26:40 PM
Pissing off right wingers is great business!!!
I don't know, you guys...
by wontyouletmeknow.
Sep 7th, 2008
05:40:45 PM
It just seems really dumb when people complain that this about getting young people to vote democratic rather than just when, in neither the trailer, or in any of the words in the article above, is that statement supported. It sounds more like you are completely unwilling to see what is around you, like little kids with fingers in your ears yelling 'I CANT HEAR YOU, I CANT HEAR YOU'. For God's sake, use your heads and stop portraying yourselves as such morons to the world around you. Man...
Hm...
by wontyouletmeknow.
Sep 7th, 2008
05:42:26 PM
There are quite a good many mistakes in my last post. I blame my heated typing.
Again, I find it funny...
by Animorganimate
Sep 7th, 2008
06:13:31 PM
...that someone like yourself, wontyouletmeknow, claims that the democrat/liberals are the ones with their fingers in their ears, unwilling to "listen to the other side" when, in actuality, it always appears that conservatives are the ones doing the nay saying and not listening to different perspectives. If they were, the last eight years would have been completely different, and dare I say, bearable?! GASP! Maybe I better not say that. The republicans may get mad at me for being so naive as to believe in peace and changing this great country for the BETTER, as opposed to sticking with the same old shit that has ruined us in this last decade!
Oh no! Michael Moore!
by loodabagel
Sep 7th, 2008
06:19:44 PM
The big problem with Michael Moore is that the people who watch his movies already know what's going on in the world and happen to agree with his opinion. The people who refuse to watch Michael Moore movies are the ones who could use some well rounded education. I watch Fox News now and then to see what you guys are up to. Maybe you should at least tune into NPR now and then to return the favor.
Harry, dontcha know....
by BDT
Sep 7th, 2008
07:19:37 PM
that conservatives have people poised to pounce on every talkback and make it "seem" to your readers that no-one really wants change and EVERY American really wants the Republicans to stay in control and continue to ruin our economy, our diplomacy and our Constitution. ALUCINOR...I am a LOT older than you, I can pretty much guarantee, and I would like to say that this generation of so-called "slackers" are the SMARTEST, most-informed generation of kids who CAN and DO think for themselves and are NOT easily manipulated. How disrespectful of you to think that Michael Moore has the power to manipulate young adults to do something to which they are opposed. IT is very obvious that he is merely trying to get young people who have lost hope that they have the power to change things in America, to re-engage in the process by voting and making sure they are registered to vote. I don't know what the Republicans are so threatened by at the thought of thousands of young people voting.... But go ahead all you Rovian stalkers and trollers and keep shooting off your pie holes and everyone else...level headed Republicans and Dems alike, just sit back and watch them as they do their little hissy fits and you'll know that there is something seriously wrong with their rants.
THE CASE FOR THE OTHER SIDE:
by berserkrl
Sep 7th, 2008
08:34:04 PM
Act responsibly -- don't vote: http://tinyurl.com/6l32fz
OKAY...
by Alucinor
Sep 7th, 2008
11:05:54 PM
If his documentary was during 2004... apparently the revolution failed? The Conservative celebrities know that trying to get kids to vote by having celebrities get kids to vote, doesn't work. I can start a revolution about whatever I wanted... get enough brainwashed kids to follow me and change nothing and I suppose I'm about as successful as anything Michael Moore has done, besides become richer and fatter. BDT, by saying you are probably much older than me, aren't you making a pre-judgment as well? Kids are easily manipulated no matter how many smart kids you run into. Everyone is manipulated. People go to school to learn how to manipulate everyone through marketing and politics. I am not at all saying Michael Moore has the power to force kids to do what they are opposed... because these kids aren't opposed to anything. What Michael Moore does do, is convince a confused kid to buy into everything he says. Celebrity is a powerful thing. Why else do we have a generation of girls trying to be like Paris Hilton when it seems painfully obvious that she has no redeeming value? By saying you are a lot older, you basically confirm that you are out of touch with youth and couldn't possibly know the consensus of non-manipulation and brain power in kids today. I am closer to the age of these youths (you were right about that) and I personally have seen nothing to suggest that they are these level headed, intelligent people that you suggest they are. I see a lot of unoriginal copycats who emulate popular culture. A large population of kids look and act exactly the same. At least around where I live... this is of course just my opinion. We don't have definitive proof either way. At point does anything I say sound like a hissy fit? Not a big fan of differing opinions?
Republicans aren't threatened by Moore
by SnowDogs
Sep 7th, 2008
11:05:54 PM
They're just pissed that the media takes what he manufactures and treats it as gospel. They're pissed that anything that toes the party line gets attention and anything that doesn't is demonized. A reverse situation of this is Fox News. Liberals FREAK OUT that there's even a sole cable channel that threatens the liberal party line. And BDT, you make me laugh that you think there's really a vast Right Wing Conspiracy that's even got AICN talkbacks in its sights. Maybe people actually just think Michael Moore and liberals are full of it, eh? Maybe it's as simple as that?
If you watch Penn and Teller's Bullshit...
by Alucinor
Sep 7th, 2008
11:12:14 PM
you know that a lot of kids just vote for what is popular and sexy at the time... there may be a large population of kids that are informed, but their clearly is a large amount that really has no clue about what they are voting for. It's tough to be informed in this day and age... you can't really trust the media to bring you accurate information all of the time. You really have to search to find what might be the truth... and most kids just don't care enough to really look into it to be informed. That is my opinion anyway.
I'm not religious at all dammit.
by Alucinor
Sep 7th, 2008
11:23:31 PM
It sucks being an Agnostic. You know how scary it is to think about dying and having an eternity of nothing?
My Muslim Faith...
by PirateEmery
Sep 7th, 2008
11:25:36 PM
Muslim Faith = Christian Faith

Don't you know?

For the record,
by PirateEmery
Sep 7th, 2008
11:30:52 PM
I don't have an issue with a Muslim President. It's a President that lies about his past, his religion, and his culture that I have a problem with.
I am a fan of
by BDT
Sep 7th, 2008
11:34:00 PM
people being able to say and think what they like. I have a kid so I am in touch with kids...and I know, as a parent, it is literally impossible to manipulate a teen. I have great hope for and from the younger folks I know... I appreciate differing opinions but I don't get why people are instantly get so flamy about someone telling young people to get out and vote. Sounds like I am not the one afraid of different opinions. I believe young people are no more celebrity worshiping than people my age or older. That being said, I believe our whole society, not just young people, would benefit from some lessons in media literacy.
Ugh...Americans...
by wonderllama
Sep 7th, 2008
11:44:29 PM
Seriously, and apologies to those of you who DO understand, this film works for BOTH sides. If you agree with Moore and want to elect the Democrats, enroll to vote. If you don't agree with Moore and want to tell him to stick it where it fits, then enroll to vote and vote for the Republicans. If you GENUINELY don't care and think it is your right to CHOOSE not to vote. You're a moron. The end.
cringe inducing trailer...
by TotalFreedom
Sep 7th, 2008
11:44:48 PM
Michael Moore throwing ramen noodles into a throng of shrieking college liberals to remind you that the far left is every bit as self-righteous and dangerous as the far right. This country is done for.
John McCain
by Cujo_Fugate
Sep 7th, 2008
11:46:50 PM
will win the election because Americans are: -Ignorant of the REAL issues -Easily mislead -Easily frightened -Racist Anyone who has ANY IDEA about what is ACTUALLY HAPPENING, who John McCain REALLY IS, what the outgoing administration has ACTUALLY DONE wouldn never consider voting for a Republican for the next 100 years. Is Barak Obama the savior that rational, caring, and aware people have been waiting for? Not by a longshot. He's taken as much corporate money in this campain that McCain has therefore he will also be beholden to the corporate masters... Neither of these candidates will deliver the real change that needs to take place. But, Obama has promised to make some changes in areas that need to be changed such as the environment and foreign policy (two vastly important issues that must be addressed if America is to hold onto its Superpower status). McCain will only continue the insanely destructive path that the Bush Adminsitration has taken. What path is that...? ...Several months ago a reporter was questioning Dick Cheney on possible war with Iran... ....the reporter says to Cheney that the majority of Americans do not want to go to war with Iran... Cheneys response... "So." Corporate ownership and the destructon of the middle class (the spine of the United States) is what the current Republican party stands for. America cannot endure 4 more years of this.
blah blah blah
by sidburnd1
Sep 7th, 2008
11:47:06 PM
liberal/republican bias. I agree with Alucinor's comment on young people voting for whatever trend or fad is popular or new at the moment. I was trying to get some food at the Farmer's market here in Austin and I was bombarded with register to vote for Obamobots everytime I turned a corner! I dont like mcsame OR barak0.
Wow, Cujo_Fugate!
by PirateEmery
Sep 8th, 2008
12:03:01 AM
You are indeed an idiot!
Most kids don't listen to ther parents...
by Alucinor
Sep 8th, 2008
12:07:25 AM
That's why they can be manipulated by celebrities and whatever is on television. People say kids are also influenced by their friends, but where do you think the friends learn it from? Believe it or not, a lot of parents are too busy or just don't care so they give their kid high speed internet and an X-Box and shut their door. I've seen it time and time again. I haven't been to every kids house of course... but I have been to many people's houses where parenting seems optional. The stuff they see in popular culture definitely has more of an impact than their parents ever will.
Cujo_Fugate
by Alucinor
Sep 8th, 2008
12:20:18 AM
America can, and will survive 4 more years no matter which candidate becomes President. You see, when people talk shit about Mccain... I am assuming you are a Liberal, you don't offer any sort of evidence or any particular reason as to why he would make a nation ending President. All I see is a bunch of worst case scenarios that you know will never come true. How will not caring about the environment for 4 years doom America? If you have ever taken a political science class, you know that whoever gets into office, mostly does what the people want anyway. If people want to focus on the environment... odds are they will in some capacity.
If you're going to vote for McCain
by Harry Weinstein
Sep 8th, 2008
12:48:10 AM
Seriously, please just stay home and slit your wrists. By which I mean kill yourself.
Harry Weinstein
by Alucinor
Sep 8th, 2008
01:01:10 AM
Too bad the "well informed" wrist cutting crowd is going to be the youths that will vote for Obama in droves. People like Socialism? Worked well for everyone else... wait? Have you seen the video of Mccain jumping out of a plane just as it explodes... rolling through fire while helping his fellow crewmen? You think this man is out to make your lives miserable and ruin our country? You can vote for Obama if you believe in his ideology, but don't try and say Mccain isn't a good man.
SnowDogs
by Dingbatty
Sep 8th, 2008
02:26:50 AM
Elizabeth Kucinich is the woman we all dream about.
Regurgitated media statements.
by WhyteMaN
Sep 8th, 2008
02:40:45 AM
Has anyone ever thought about who actually owns these big media companies that give you all these pleasant things to say? Do you really think that CNN, FOX, NBC, etc etc are all american owned with no foreign interest or political ties? Take all these reports on recession. Don't you think its possible that its all politically fueled? If there is an economical downturn do media reports actually help the situation? NO. Media says "recession" and the nation stops spending. It becomes a fuel. Both Dems and Reps are to blame for what's happening. Liberal media keeps using the R word to scare the crap out of voters so that the Dems have control over all 3 branches. Which is never good for single party to do so. Don't agree? list a time in history where that proved successful. And the Reps keep trying to fix the housing market situation which is only prolonging the problem. If the media stopped reporting economical turmoil people would spend as usual. If the Reps would just leave the housing market take the inevitable turn it would bounce back quicker. A lot quicker. And on top of that america is important to many many countries weather they like us or not. And if a certain political party holds more of that foreign countries interest then another, does it not seem logical that they would want them in power? What other way could they achieve that then swaying voters through media propaganda? So think about it. All these things your so sure about on both sides, in the wise words of 311 reconsider everything. Look at the big picture.
Michael Moore?
by SunTzu77
Sep 8th, 2008
04:01:23 AM
That's a pass for me.
repubs and hollywood
by SunTzu77
Sep 8th, 2008
04:17:11 AM
Most Republicans in Hollywood just stay in the closet. The only people that I'm aware of that are out attending fundraisers for McCain are Mike De Luca, Jerry Bruckheimer, Kelsey Grammer, Jon Voight, Tom Selleck, David Zucker, Robert Duvall, Gary Sinise, Harry Sloan and Clint Eastwood.
Damn, and they say the Liberals are angry! BANZAI ROOTSKIBANGO
by iamnicksaicnsn
Sep 8th, 2008
05:04:48 AM
Thanks for injecting the conversation with a reasoned and thoughtful arguments! How about you do Florida a favor and don't vote, considering you're not intelligent enough to understand that Radiohead's "Hail To The Thief" is a direct attack to Bush. That's right, your "Barack-Attack" wasn't funny! And there's a reason you can't find College Republicans (even though, seriously, what kind of liberal unaccredited college do you go to where you can't join a College Republicans club), the Republicans in power now don't represent any of the more intelligent Republican values and that turns the young off! The youth of today are much more tolerant than Bush or McCain could ever hope to be (or at least what they say in public). The youth of today are less willing to go to war for no reason (maybe they still want to "finish" wars, I'll give you that, but not start them).

And before you call me out on finding your MySpace, I was just curious what your name referred to and apparently it doesn't refer to anything. Maybe some lame attempt to get in the next Star Wars-teat-sucking Lucas project?

Sarah Palin:
by iamnicksaicnsn
Sep 8th, 2008
05:17:45 AM

On the vice presidency: "But as for that v.p. talk all the time, I'll tell you, I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it, exactly, that the v.p. does every day?" --July 31, 2008, CNBC's "Kudlow & Company"

On Iraq: "I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq. I heard on the news about the new deployments, and while I support our president, Condoleezza Rice, and the administration, I want to know that we have an exit plan in place." --March 21, 2007, Alaska Business Monthly

"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [American soldiers] out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan." --June 8, 2008, Wasilla Assembly of God Church

On creationism: "Growing up with being so privileged and blessed to be given a lot of information on, on both sides of the subject--creationism and evolution. It's been a healthy foundation for me. But don't be afraid of information and let kids debate both sides." --October 25, 2006, gubernatorial debate

On global warming: "A changing environment will affect Alaska more than any other state, because of our location. I'm not one, though, who would attribute it to being man-made." --August 29, 2008, Newsmax

On energy: "I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that." --June 8, 2008, Wasilla Assembly of God Church

On receiving $1.8 million in federal earmarks for the city of Wasilla: "FYI This does not include our nearly one million Dollars from the Feds for our Airport Paving Project. We did well!!!" --June 14, 1999, Wasilla City Council Informational Memorandum 99-62

On that "Bridge to Nowhere": Question: "Would you continue state funding for the proposed Knik Arm and Gravina Island bridges?"

Palin: "Yes. I would like to see Alaska's infrastructure projects built sooner rather than later. The window is now--while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist." --October 22, 2006, Anchorage Daily News

On library books she doesn't like: "What would your response be if I asked you to remove some books from the collection?" --October 1996 conversation with librarian Mary Ellen Emmons, Anchorage Daily News

On the secessionist Alaskan Independence Party: "Your party plays an important role in our state's politics ... keep up the good work, and God bless you." --2006 video address to Independence Party's convention

On Ivana Trump: "We want to see Ivana because we are so desperate in Alaska for any semblance of glamour and culture." --April 3, 1996, Anchorage Daily News

On running Wasilla: "It's not rocket science. It's six million dollars and fifty-three employees. " --October 1996, Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman

On being governor: "I will unambiguously, steadfastly, and doggedly guard the interests of this great state, as a mother naturally guards her own. Like a Southeast Eagle and her eaglets, or, more appropriately here in the Carlson, like a Nanook defending her cub." --December 4, 2006, inaugural address

On the prospect of becoming a candidate for vice president: "It kind of cracks me up. It is so far out of the realm of possibility and reality." --August 14, 2008, Financial Post

uh Harry, that link's dead, dude..
by Maniaq
Sep 8th, 2008
06:28:57 AM
guessing by the subject titles, there's a lotta Michael Moore hate on here?

'salright, a reaction's a reaction, one way or another - the man's got people having (mostly) intelligent conversations - I think they used to call them "dinner table" conversations...

remember kids, opinions are like arseholes - everybody's got one, but you don't necessarily wanna see yours on the front page!

young folks
by BDT
Sep 8th, 2008
06:51:17 AM
When I say, as a parent, it is literally impossible to manipulate a teenager, it is because they see through it and generally are stubborn and rebellious. Therefore, my belief as a parent, is to present truths and develop trust and cooperation through respect and honesty. Once again, I have great hope in the youth of this country.
watching a movie isn't activism
by Spandau Belly
Sep 8th, 2008
07:15:40 AM
I guess I'm sick of this attitude that watching a movie about a subject is the same as doing something about it. Going to see Syriana doesn't affect the oil biz, watching a movie about how the health care system is bad isn't the same as fixing it, I'm sure the distribution and screenings and gas consumed by the audience getting to the cinema to watch An Inconvienent Truth has done more harm to the environment than any good the film inspired.
Spandau Belly
by frozen01
Sep 8th, 2008
10:37:25 AM
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that *watching* a movie is activism. I think usually it's believed that *making* the movie is activism. But good point on "An Inconvenient Truth"... that movie didn't tell me anything I couldn't have learned from watching the Discovery Channel from my comfy non-emission couch.
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