I disagree though that they wouldn't use Thornton because he's too old and they would want him to do lots of sequels. If the producers could get him, they'd use him in a heartbeat. He'd just never sign.

That poster make Riddler look like a scary nutjob, like Ledger's Joker. The Riddler shouldnt be a carbon copy of the Joker. Carrey's Riddler was too silly and he riffed on the lunacy of Nicholson's Joker.

And I agree with everyone that has said Riddler shouldn't be a psychopath like Joker. He needs to be the opposite. He needs to be cerebral and utterly calculating -- a man WITH a plan. Also it would be great to see Batman be a detective for an entire movie. Riddler and Deadshot would make a nice balance I think. Two men going after Batman in completely different ways. But I'm also an idiot so I don't know.

And Talia would be great addition as well. She would elevate the hotness now that Two-Face is dead.

if not in a comic book movie, then where?!?

plus, in Nolan's universe, it'd need to be someone younger....more disenfranchised...

Zooey Deschanel?

along with my suggestion of Eccelston as the Riddler. I know I'm not the only one to come up with that idea, but wow

the Poster is cool but a little too close to the scratchy "why so serious" stuff

as for titles, I don't like The Caped Crusader, it's too light, it needs to invoke the same feeligns that BB and TDK did, the only thing that comes to mind is simply calling it GOTHAM

personally I wouldn't even introduce Batman or Bruce until 30, 45 min. even an hour into the film

start it off with a faux Joker (nice suggestiona dna good homage to Batman Beyond fighting a faux Batman, police break it up repoter swarm the scene, slowly build up to this cold, calucating, greedy smart as hell classy criminal with a penchant for green (no question marks, no tattoos-green suit, green bowler hat, MAYBE a question mark tie pin)planning a robbery, Riddler is the man in the shadows, the puppet master, whereas Joker was going for the...recogniation, Mr. Nygma is in it for the money, laundering the money through a club of some sort run by a portly little mobster (don't call either one The Riddler [unless it's by the media i.e. BTK, Zodiac, etc]) or Penjuin, just use slight ways to INVOKE their images

But, yes, Hush would be a cool movie villain. If Coleman Reese wasn't such a pussy maybe he'd be man enough to take Bruce Wayne on personally like Hush does in the comics. but of course he is a pussy so he's not doing anything.

Just ignore everything from the 2nd Dark Knight comic.

The scene in the comic where you just see a black silhouette with only the "S" visible would be cool to see on the big screen.

But please, no Riddler. The Joker in TDK pretty much nailed the "battle of wits" thing; if Nygma stepped up it would feel like a retread. Unless they go full Die Hard 3 and make it some kind of Gotham-based explosive scavenger hunt with clever riddles, they couldn't find lamer riddles than in Batman Forever anyways.

I like NOT knowing what to expect from the performances in these movies. Which is why casting Jolie would be so utterly boring - we've already seen her play incarnations of this character several times before.

And on a side note - she's supposedly doing a mid-western American accent for Public Enemies, which made me think a dual-accented Catwoman/Selina Kyle would be awesome, and help with the suspension of disbelief with Bruce not recognizing her voice.

As for the "mysteries" references I totally didn't catch on to that, so good catch! Maybe the viral marketing didn't end when the movie opened.

One thing you could do, since everyone knows Reese knows something, is have Riddler kidnap Reese and have him spill as much as he knows. Then you'd have "Enigma" and his little stooge "Mysteries". And also that way, we'd know that Riddler knew who Batman is but we wouldn't know who Riddler is.

It's 2:37 in the A.M. and I hope that makes sense.

Thorton should have gone on Oprah dressed as Freddie Kreuger instead. Isn't that right, Ms. Young?

The way the story is developing, it is obvious that at one point Batman will have to die, if only the image. However, instead of pinning his hopes on somebody like Harvey Dent, he may now have to train his successor: Robin. If the movie plays several years after the events in the Dark Knight, Gordon's son could possibly play the role of Robin (and maybe, when he himself is older, and the need once again arises, could in turn take up the Batman identity). Regardless of previous incarnations of Robin, having the son of Gordon choose to ‘fight the forces of evil’ makes sense, since he could embody the strengths and limitations of both Gordon and Batman just as Bruce embodied those of his parents. The fact that he need not rely on the dark image of a bat could represent this necessary change of direction for Gotham.

That’s also why I love how Nolan has been using the reference to a demonic pact that somehow manifests itself not only through the choices and reactions of Bruce Wayne, but the city as a whole: micro and macro mirror each other. For example, in the first movie we see a clear distinction between an affluent, and safe part of Gotham and a corrupt and decadent Gotham, practically represented in terms of above and below (heaven and hell). In the second movie, however, the city seems much more cleaner and organized, and yet that only turns out to be a façade (similar to how New York, despite having cleaned up the image that it had during the 70’s, nevertheless ended up suffering the worst terrorist act in U.S. history).

Similarly, with regards to the evolution of Bruce, in the first movie, an opera based on Goethe’s Faust (‘Mefistofele’ by Arrigo Boito) causes young Bruce to have a panic attack – itself a result of his fear of bats (which obviously represents something much more primordial) – and leads indirectly to the death of his parents. And yet, this same fear is later used by Ra’s al Ghul in order to train Bruce, and ultimately leads him to become Batman. That is, he overcomes his own fear and channels it to inspire fear in others. Though he beats Ra’s al Ghul in the end, one could also argue that Ra’s al Ghul was ultimately victorious, considering how Batman’s actions not only produced the Joker, but also destroyed Gotham’s other champion, Harvey Dent.

The result is that Gotham is in even more turmoil by the end of the second movie. One should therefore recall Ra’s al Ghul’s ambiguous statements concerning the origins of the League of Shadows, and how they had been responsible for the fate of civilizations since antiquity: "We sacked Rome, loaded trade ships with plague rats, burned London to the ground." Maybe the Joker was part of their plan all along. After all, the Joker not only characterized himself as a mindless agent of chaos, but also admitted to his relationship with Batman being based on a “battle for Gotham’s soul.”

This is similar to the wager that Mephistopheles has with God for the soul of humanity, which in turn is meant to be decided by the actions of Faust. However, though Mephistopheles does everything in his power to destroy Faust by tempting him to turn against God, Faust only comes to realize the true essence of what is good by being confronted by these turmoils; God doesn’t have to do anything (which in turn suggests that God needs, or uses, the devil for his own purposes: demonstrating to mankind their own intrinsic divinity).

The Riddler could very well represent this search by Batman for an answer, i.e., his attempts to rid Gotham of evil, even that which he brought upon Gotham by his attempts to do good. Robin (Gordon’s son), coming from a modest environment (and thus without the financial support that Bruce could rely upon), could represent the other part of Gotham. But as a student of both his father and Batman, he could in turn help Gotham by combining his father's skills and his character, namely his honesty and trust in Gotham’s legal institutions (compare this with Batman’s covert use of mobile phone’s which – along with the infringement of basic rights of privacy – also resulted in the confusion of innocent civilians and ‘terrorists’) with Batman’s training and strenth (not to mention that both are excellent detectives).

I could also see a role for either Catwoman or Talia al Ghul. The latter would make more sense, though I know little of her story. Either way, a love-interest makes sense as the ultimate catalyst for Bruce’s demise/redemption. This also turned out to be the case for Harvey Dent: Joker’s deduction that she was important to Batman and her final death proved to be the final instruments of his demise (demonstrating how love can be both destructive while also capable of inspiring the best in man).