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Warner Bros. KISS KISS, BANG BANG-ing Guy Ritchie's ROCKNROLLA?

First! by DimensionsPlural	Aug 13th, 2008 02:22:44 PM
Do you like dags?
I'll be seeing this in 3 weeks or so by Garbageman33	Aug 13th, 2008 02:25:22 PM
At the Toronto International Film Festival. Great city. Great festival.
hmmm thats kinda crap by wenis	Aug 13th, 2008 02:26:50 PM
but hopefully the movie is great and it has the legs like kiss kiss did and people catch up to it on dvd.
Why did WB shortchange KKBB? by RobotDevil007	Aug 13th, 2008 02:28:39 PM
Is it because Kilmer's character was gay?
Garbageman33 by mrbeaks	Aug 13th, 2008 02:28:42 PM
Go see Danny Boyle's SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE. WB's trying to unload that as well.
Looks Promising... by Lost4Words	Aug 13th, 2008 02:32:05 PM
Is Revolver worth seeing?
looks good. i'll watch it. he knows english gangsta flicks by BMacSmith	Aug 13th, 2008 02:32:58 PM
Snatch and Lock Stock were, in fact great movies.
No, Revolver is a really really bad movie. by Underdogthe3rd	Aug 13th, 2008 02:33:27 PM
But "Kiss, Kiss..." was funny.
I like Snatch and Lock Stock by Jor-El23	Aug 13th, 2008 02:35:04 PM
but they're pretty much the same movie, as is Rocknrolla based on what i'm seeing. group of bumbling misfit criminals? Check! Scary British boss man type? Check! Guy who's along for the ride, outside looking in, overseeing everything, understanding everything, smarter than everyone else? Check! Valuable MacGuffin that everyone is after? Check! Difficult to understand accents? Check! Still i'm sure i'll watch and like
How long is Ritchie gonna keep making these films?.... by Rameses	Aug 13th, 2008 02:36:39 PM
he just seems to be stuck on some sort of Mockney mobster treadmill.I liked lock -stock , enjoyed snatch{though even at that point..I was starting to realise the guy seemed a bit limited} Now it looks like he's frightened to do anything different at all.
Lost4Words... by nascentia	Aug 13th, 2008 02:37:34 PM
No, Revolver isn't worth seeing at all. I LOVE Lock,Stock & Snatch, and I assumed the hatred against Revolver was unjustified. Nope, I was wrong. It's AWFUL. The plot is a bunch of Jewish Kabballah mysticism hocus pocus that made zero sense to me, Ray Liotta turns in the single worst role of his career (yes, worse than Turbulence) and Statham wasn't very good, either. It sucked.
Thanks, Mr. Beaks by Garbageman33	Aug 13th, 2008 02:37:57 PM
I think that was just announced today, along with, among many other titles, The Brothers Bloom, Zack and Miri Make A Porno and the directorial debut from Charlie Kauffmann, which sounds batshit crazy. Have you seen Slumdog Millionaire?
Where's the news about Billy Bob? by Sithdan	Aug 13th, 2008 02:38:51 PM
Billy Bob Thornton is going to be the next Freddy Krueger. I'm surprised this site hasn't reported that already. It's a travesty, in my opinion.
Speaking of Pride & Glory by Reckoner	Aug 13th, 2008 02:39:37 PM
WTF?? They shot this movie like 2 years ago and it's just now getting released this fall? It looks good, so I don't understand the delay.
For who? by UltimaRex	Aug 13th, 2008 02:41:07 PM
Billy Bob or Freddy?
I Love Snatch!!! by tk 421	Aug 13th, 2008 02:42:36 PM
And I liked to the movie by the same name as well.
Hopefully, Andre 3000 isn't in this. by Garbageman33	Aug 13th, 2008 02:42:59 PM
His role in Revolver may be the worst performance I've ever seen. The guy makes Ice Cube look like Sidney Poitier.
I gave Snatch three carrots out of five when I saw it by The Rabbit Of Carrot Shaped Doom	Aug 13th, 2008 02:49:15 PM
One hopes that Guy Ritchie may repeat such success with this movie. He is a man in possession of some degree of talent, even if such talent is not always recognised as much as it deserves to be.
I just can't connect with those filmmaking Brits. by nomihs	Aug 13th, 2008 02:50:29 PM
I liked "Lock, Stock..." and "Snatch" but the neurons firing can't really make the connection to ENJOY them. That said, I would like to give this one a chance. Just watched Piven in Very Bad Things the other day and, despite the fact that I hate him getting on HOTTT piece of ass in that flick, I think he killed it in that movie. Wait, I guess he did "kill it". That's what a towel hook to the back of the head will do. And Dimensions, you may be FIRST, but you are retarded as well. Enjoy both accomplishments.
This looks fucking badass by Magma Suit	Aug 13th, 2008 02:50:50 PM
Snatch is one of my all time favorites, and I'm ecstatic to see Ritchie coming back to do a British mobster ensemble caper. And if WB KKBBs this, it might just be a good indicator that it's good. "Not finding an audience" is just studio lingo for "too good for the fucking idiotic moviegoing public".
That's a very slick trailer indeed by palimpsest	Aug 13th, 2008 02:58:57 PM
And if it succeeds on the level of riffing on RESERVOIR DOGS meets THE LONG GOOD FRIDAY of his first two flicks (tho not as good as either), then it'll be well-worth the price of admission. Plus, whoever cast the picture did their job well, it seems. Not seen SWEPT AWAY, so can't comment there, and REVOLVER is at times quite visually beautiful, if a badly-written and over-acted piece of campaigning for a vogueish mock religion. See it (it's worth the experience) but don't expect to necessarily enjoy it. So Ritchie's making a comeback movie. Expect this to make its money back, re-establish his mainstream (ish) credentials, and for Ritchie to alternate between Hollywood action fare and smaller, more personal projects, from here on out. It'd be fascinating to see what he could with a rock-solid franchise. Would he pull a stellar job, or cock it up?
Sithdan, you need to look at the BIG picture. by nomihs	Aug 13th, 2008 03:01:25 PM
Billy Bob as Freddy? I say, HELL YES. It's about time we get some talent in the horror genre. The last great horror antiganist was...Shit, I dunno, Bela Lugosi, Boris Karloff, or maybe even Steve Martin in Little Shop of Horrors. I say, Thornton should move to Elm St. and start scaring the hell outta the kiddies. OH, and bring back Johnny Depp. Maybe he can play the twin brother of the guy who got pulled into the water bed then puked out. I don't know, just find something for him.
Bring Halle Barry to Elm Street! by Vic Twenty	Aug 13th, 2008 03:05:47 PM
And have her go One-on-One with the Crisp One ala Monster's Ball. After all, you gotta have a little T&A, right?
Here is your Conan woman by toadkillerdog	Aug 13th, 2008 03:07:42 PM
Not to mention Chiyty and Danny 'snext spank mate. http://tinyurl.com/5pmqwo
Sorry, wrong TB by toadkillerdog	Aug 13th, 2008 03:08:23 PM
Hate when that happens.
I'll see it regardless by Theta	Aug 13th, 2008 03:09:23 PM
Warners lost a bundle with "Kiss Kiss" by dropping it like a hot rock: everyone I've ever shown it to loves it. I suspect much the same will be lost here. Even if Ritchie's just playing the same old song, he plays it well.
It'll be massive over here in Blighty nonetheless... by dr_buggerlugs	Aug 13th, 2008 03:10:39 PM
...Ritchie made a couple of massive missteps when he ought to have had a couple of blockbusters under his belt by now. This seems like a way just to get back some of his commercial mojo before tackling Sherlock Holmes which I'm guessing he'll have everything riding on.
There are a lot of filmmakers who'd kill by chaplinatemyshoe	Aug 13th, 2008 03:11:14 PM
for an 800 theatre release. Especially after releasing two completely unmarketable pieces of crap.
it's very English by HoboCode	Aug 13th, 2008 03:15:01 PM
The guy has a point. Americans can't stand the Limeys.
BBA America is the quickest growing cable channel. by Vic Twenty	Aug 13th, 2008 03:15:14 PM
Some of us Yanks like to hear from our friends across the pond. Arse, wanker, bonnet, tarmac, it goes on and on. Good stuff.
I remember liking SNATCH. by Gilkuliehe	Aug 13th, 2008 03:15:28 PM
And LOCK ETC, but now I kinda hate them. The style gets boring pretty quickly and that's all there is. The characters are all characterization and not an ounce of character, I can't tell the difference from one another besides crap like "one is a gypsy" or "one is russian", and all humor is based on one character being dead serious while a second character does/says something "stupid" ("Zee Germans?"). In short, can it WB, see if I care. Oh and what about a sequel to KKBB? Don't you think Robert Downey Jr's rise to stardom would make that profitable? Come on Shane Black, you can't sell it if you don't write it.
'BBC' America, I meant. by Vic Twenty	Aug 13th, 2008 03:19:01 PM
I suppose I should blame the public schools like everyone else.
"as good as Snatch" is NOT a good thing by ShiftyEyedDog2	Aug 13th, 2008 03:26:36 PM
I WANT to like Ritchie, but his films are a) all the same, b) not very good, and c) overrated in a BIG way. The trailer for this doesn't excite me much either. Give it its small release, but don't complain about it not going wide. Fact is, it would flop if released widely anyway.
kiss Kiss, Bang Bang is one of the best films of the decade by IndustryKiller!	Aug 13th, 2008 03:27:37 PM
no hyperbole, it's just a brilliant film. The voice in the writing is so strong that it makes me yearn for the days when writers had that kind of individuality and bravura. It makes you realize why action films nowadays are so god awful when assholes like Kurtzman and orci are behind the pen. And thank God Downey Jr. became a superstar because hopefully he'll help out Black just like Black helped him. And if we're lucky they'll both throw Kilmer a bone because there is a guy WAY too fucking talented to be languishing like this.
Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang was great by TVguy4566	Aug 13th, 2008 03:40:25 PM
I don't get why they buried it. Maybe because the name was too 50s-ish. I thought the writing, cast, etc. were spectacular. I bet WB wishes they could release it now with Robert Downey Jr.'s career ressurection. Now it would be in 3,000 plus theaters.
Revolver was an ambitious film that fell short by aversiontherapy2	Aug 13th, 2008 03:42:31 PM
The film was like a mobile that you had to look at from the right angle to see what they were trying to achieve, but it still fell short. I liked Snatch and Lock Stock, and it looks like Ritchie's gone back to that level of film making.
Crap, maybe, but have you ever seen Speed Racer ... by DeadPanWalking	Aug 13th, 2008 03:46:57 PM
... on weed?
C'monnnnn... by fivezero	Aug 13th, 2008 03:57:23 PM
I'll see this movie as soon as humanly possible and so will most of my friends. I don't know why they want to dump awesome movies like this. If they gave this movie some prime time TV commercials and 800 screens it'd do pretty okay. Guy Ritchie keeps getting fucked over, over and over. Shit like Mummy 3 gets made and little bitty gems like Rock'nRolla get shat on! I'm so sick of it.
Beaks, hate to break it to you, but.... by glodene	Aug 13th, 2008 03:58:04 PM
the Blu-Ray version of Speed Racer is going to release, sans the true HD Sound - This is according to Digitalbits. I'd wait until Warners decide to re-release it sometime next year or the year after with the right sound matrix that befits the true Blu-Ray sound.
Slumdog Millionaire Is A Very British+Indian Film by TroutMaskReplicant	Aug 13th, 2008 04:02:26 PM
So no big surprise if it doesn't get a wide release in the US. Unless it grows legs. Who knows? Also, horrible name.
What's is wrong with by comedian_x	Aug 13th, 2008 04:02:53 PM
working in a genre? I would rather Guy Ritchie produce great British crime movies time and time again then try to do something else (i.e. Revolver) and fail miserably Musicians work in one genre their entire careers, why when it comes to film it is suddenly an abhorrent practice.
I long for more movies like Kiss Kiss Bang Bang by The Rabbit Of Carrot Shaped Doom	Aug 13th, 2008 04:03:32 PM
One has to give it to Shane Black. "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" is certainly a masterpiece which somehow slipped beneath the radar of the general public. It is a treasure, waiting to be discovered by those who are not aware of it. The dialogue sparkles, the storyline is wonderful and the direction is also superb. I awarded it five carrots out of five when I first watched it, and this rating still stands up today.
What is this "Slumdog Millionaire"? by The Rabbit Of Carrot Shaped Doom	Aug 13th, 2008 04:04:52 PM
I find the name awfully intriguing and the director is a favourite of mine. I would desire to know more about this project please, Aint It Cool.
Snatch and Lock Stock are okay, but that's all by pap	Aug 13th, 2008 04:06:33 PM
As a Brit, I used to lament that we couldn't do a film with the polish that our American friends could ( I won't say Yanks, 'cos I've been to the South xD ). Lock Stock and Snatch were certainly glossier, but they weren't great. Ritchie's major failing is attempting to make movies about stuff he knows little about. There's a maxim in writing. Write what you know. Guy's middle-class upbringing is painfully evident in Lock Stock and Snatch. The dialogue in both pictures is like some unholy union of Blackadder and Grange Hill. That said, I'm not a hater. Both films are enjoyable, but don't really deserve to be placed upon the pedestal of Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. Ok, it's not exactly realistic either, but it is much better done.
KKBB was God-fucking AWFUL by Speed Fricassee	Aug 13th, 2008 04:08:18 PM
Unfair to make that reference/comparison. And Beaks, though I think you're a cool guy, LS&TSB and Snatch were brilliant. Sorry you didn't "get" it, but then again, they ARE pretty faced-paced...
Heh, you all said "snatch", heh etc by palimpsest	Aug 13th, 2008 04:12:53 PM
And SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE is basically the story of a poor INdian kid who wins the jackpot on the local version of "Who Wants to be a Millionaire", and is then suspected of cheating. It sounds a little like an Indian take on QUIZ SHOW in some ways. Based on a novel called "Q and A", which I haven't read. The script's by the guy who wrote THE FULL MONTY, if that's any help. Boyle has had little luck with releases recently; SUNSHINE and MILLIONS both got hidden away. Here's hoping...
Yeah Glodene, and by half vader	Aug 13th, 2008 04:14:14 PM
they're going with a bare-bones 25gig disc rather than go the whole hog with a 50. Bastards. Even though there are a lot of morons out there that totally missed the point and hated it like the critics, even they have to admit this could have been the monster hd demo disc of the year with all the whizzy, candylike colours. Could have. Boo I say.
Very grateful to you, palimpsest by The Rabbit Of Carrot Shaped Doom	Aug 13th, 2008 04:17:46 PM
I had not heard of this movie but now feel very much enlightened. It certainly sounds very interesting. I have long lemented the way in which Sunshine was treated. Here is to hoping that Mr Boyle's new movie is presented to a larger audience.
Not sure I agree, pap by palimpsest	Aug 13th, 2008 04:20:56 PM
Richie's films are movie-movies, not life movies. Of course he knows shit about gangsters; he's just seen a fair few films. ON that level they work fine, and they're so stylised that there's no way anyone could see them as realistic. Try ESSEX BOYS for that, which, though flawed, has some great conceits and a stunning Tom Wilkinson performance. Or the aforementioned THE LONG GOOD FRIDAY, or the majestic VILLAIN with Richard Burton. Or Ken Loach's SWEET SIXTEEN or RAINING STONES. Richie's world is as much a fantasy as that of Cronenberg's last two pictures. That's not to say there isn't merit there though.
No worries Carrot by palimpsest	Aug 13th, 2008 04:23:06 PM
SUNSHINE always was a hard sell; a commercial premise handled in a resolutely non-commercial way (and with directorial and other mistakes in there to be sure). MILLIONS is the one that rankles; a perfectly charming movie which could have made a shitload of money if marketed like NIM'S ISLAND or somesuch...
Snatch was a good watch.. by conspiracy	Aug 13th, 2008 04:25:49 PM
still...I don't know if I can respect a director who refuses to correct his haggish nimrod wife as she affects the worst English accent in recorded history. Then again..I guess he can't do much...Kabbalah curses and all.
Ahem: Dick Van Dyke? by palimpsest	Aug 13th, 2008 04:29:03 PM
Tho he later claimed to have been drunk throughout the filming of MARY POPPINS.
Comparing a movie to KKBB by pzadvance	Aug 13th, 2008 04:30:22 PM
...is a great way to get me to watch it. I've seen that movie at least seven times and it is consistently brilliant and sinfully underseen.
palimpsest...Madge is worse... by conspiracy	Aug 13th, 2008 04:31:28 PM
Why? Because unlike Van Dyke who was doing a one time bit, albeit poorly; Madge puts on that thing 24/7..Hell she even does it on this side of the pond!
KKBB is splendid by palimpsest	Aug 13th, 2008 04:34:16 PM
the resurrection of three great talents: Shane Black, Robert Downey Jr and Val Kilmer. See also WONDERLAND and SPARTAN for great Kilmer performances. And Black's KKBB script is the best thing he's written this side of his draft of LETHAL WEAPON 2.
Ahh, conspiracy, I don't live in London by palimpsest	Aug 13th, 2008 04:38:30 PM
thus I don't have to worry about bumping into her in the queue at the Post Office. Mind you, if she came up to me in the street and asked me "'ave yew gawt the toime me old china" I'd be sorely tempted to slap the turkey-necked wicked stepmother of disco back across the pond to the colonies. Naturally, as a gentleman, I wouldn't. But it's the thought that counts.
palimpsest.. by conspiracy	Aug 13th, 2008 04:43:13 PM
"I'd be sorely tempted to slap the turkey-necked wicked stepmother of disco back across the pond to the colonies." Such imagery...THATS funny. Well done.
heh, imagine if Kiss Kiss Bang bang came out now by Freakemovie	Aug 13th, 2008 04:54:38 PM
Now that Robert Downey Jr.'s the new Johnny Depp. Would've been a terrific modest hit and would've probably helped revive Val Kilmer's career a bit. Alas.
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang by antonphd	Aug 13th, 2008 04:54:57 PM
my personal favorite film of all time.
Freakemovie. by Irina Spanko	Aug 13th, 2008 04:59:05 PM
I was just thinking the same thing. And not only would it have been good for the actors, but for Shane Black, who is one of the best in the business and deserves mainstream recognition.
Slumdog Millionaire by supertoyslast	Aug 13th, 2008 04:59:44 PM
Warner Bros are trying to unload it? That's a great shame (and the usual "art getting its ass kicked" by commerce). Danny Boyle is one of the most interesting British directors working today. 'Millions' should have done a lot better, but was killed over here by the 12A rating. (For what? The boys having a glimpse of a lingerie site? The Wonder Years is more risque) I think Sunshine did ok in the UK, especially if DVDs are taken into consideration.
REVOLVER WAS ONE OF THE WORST MOVIES...EVER. by Executor	Aug 13th, 2008 05:09:42 PM
Seriously. And I've seen some bad ones. A two hour kaballah allegory. Ritchie's trademark kinetic style is old news, and he can't even be bothered to come up with stories anymore, just a pastiche of outlandish characters punctuated by unintelligible dialogue and occasional gunplay. If Guy's creativity in bed is anything like his movies, no wonder Madonna is sick of fucking him. At least he can keep making movies and fuck US. yeah.
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is my favorite film by David Cloverfield	Aug 13th, 2008 05:12:20 PM
seriously. i watch it one a month with my friends getting drunk. Fucking amazing. It's a shame it got such a shitty treatment. I really want another Harry Lockhart/Gay Perry movie.
It could be worse........ by BigDogg	Aug 13th, 2008 05:15:22 PM
They could be "Midnight Meat Train"-ing it. Not only was that given a tiny release meeting its bare minimum of release, they released it straight to bargain theaters, even a bigger slap in the face than straight to DVD.
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang... by SergioGiorgini	Aug 13th, 2008 05:25:15 PM

WB's second biggest film of the year... by Pocket Watch	Aug 13th, 2008 05:25:48 PM
...is likely to be the sixth Harry Potter. Or will this get a limited release for being too English?
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang... by SergioGiorgini	Aug 13th, 2008 05:27:02 PM
The sequel that we ACTUALLY WANT? P.S. Fucking return. Apologies.
When I watched by papabendi	Aug 13th, 2008 05:30:59 PM
the trailer for this film before TDK in England the entire audience gave off a collective sigh. Kind of like the one you get when an Eddie Murphy trailer comes on.
The Iron Man blu-ray will out sell Speed Racer 2 to1. by hollywoodsummers	Aug 13th, 2008 05:37:48 PM
Bet on it. Here's to hoping for nothing.
Guy Ritchie by kwisatzhaderach	Aug 13th, 2008 05:38:41 PM
The British Michael Bay.
This movie is certainly not "too English" by The Rabbit Of Carrot Shaped Doom	Aug 13th, 2008 05:45:36 PM
Violence, sadly, translates to any language. Good comedy should also translate to any language. If a million Brits can watch a movie about mobsters in an American environment evading the American police authorities, I am quite certain that an equal number of Americans can watch the reverse. To shelve a movie because it is "too English" is quite proposterous.
Does Ritchie's flick feature Michelle Monaghan's tits by Itchy	Aug 13th, 2008 06:08:10 PM
like Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang did ? If not, Mr. Madonna can kiss my ass - I'm not watching any more of his crap.
EvilWizardGlick... by Executor	Aug 13th, 2008 06:29:24 PM
I am hoping you are being sarcastic. Revolver was shit, plain and simple. A guy figures out a formula for "beating life" while in a prison cell? Don't get me started. No it's not the horseshit we see normally, it's an entirely new type of horseshit that is even shittier. p.s. If a greased up Ray Liotta is your idea of a great movie, there's a great double feature playing for you at the TomCat in West Hollywood.
Funny that Warners doesn't think Harry Potter is too British. by Rev. Slappy	Aug 13th, 2008 06:32:43 PM
What a bunch of buffoons.
It looks like Smokin' Aces part two. And that aint a by GQtaste	Aug 13th, 2008 06:48:05 PM
good thing.
They should call the sequel by rosasaks	Aug 13th, 2008 07:01:25 PM
Kiss Kiss Kiss Bang Bang Bang. No wait. That would be silly.
Pauline Kael and Jean-Luc Goddard are rolling in their graves... by rosasaks	Aug 13th, 2008 07:02:48 PM

I F'ing love Snatch and Lock Stock by jimmay	Aug 13th, 2008 07:11:32 PM
Consider me there. And, even though Revolver was a mess, it still looked really fucking good. I'll find the one theater in town that has this showing for two weeks and hit it while it's hot, just like I did for Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
Revolver was a great film. by antonphd	Aug 13th, 2008 07:11:43 PM
It just wasn't an abc123USA movie.
Smoking Aces 2 My Arse! by FILMFUNK	Aug 13th, 2008 07:22:02 PM
Sad when they don't have a clue what they have! Just like Reservoir Dogs the brits will have to fanny around seeking this tasty wee morsal out in remote, small screen cinemas over and over to make it cult and give it it's due. and then a good few mumfs later when USofA catches on it'll hit thousands of screens.
The ensemble and dialogue of Snatch was fantastic. by CreasyBear	Aug 13th, 2008 07:22:36 PM
Yes, all the characters talked basically the same, but Ritchie nailed the fun, dark humor with an energetic style. Revolver really was awful. Not the "Oh, only smart people like me 'get' it" way, but in the way where you realize in the end that the long boring stretches resulted only in a so-called climax that was nothing more than pay-offs that we saw coming from miles away (Oh, so those were the guys in the prison?! Wow!), and a laughable Freudian excuse for an antagonist. I mean, I applaud the audacity for Ritchie to try something so insane, but in the end, it's still just insane.
looks good by chipps	Aug 13th, 2008 07:32:57 PM
veeeeeeeeeely nice!
Man- I hope this comes out ... I realyl want to see it... on the by Judge Briggs	Aug 13th, 2008 07:38:11 PM

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang should have opened in 8 MILLION theatres... by DanielKurland	Aug 13th, 2008 07:55:58 PM
That's how good it was. It's a shame it was almost completely over looked, and if the exact same film were simply released now, you know it'd do crazy well just due to how hot Downey Jr. has become.
This movie looks like 25 other films that by TooWhippy	Aug 13th, 2008 07:58:11 PM
have been released over the past 3 years. I'll see it when Its on DVD.
Too English?? Hollywood IS English! by Horde Zoba	Aug 13th, 2008 07:58:12 PM
I fucking love the way yanks still act like they can't quite get or accept something english, completely forgetting that a fuckton of mainstream culture is related to England in some way: LORD OF THE RINGS: English story, nearly all characters speak with English accents PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: Nearly all the characters are English or speak in English accents, including Jack Sparrow HARRY POTTER: English Story, nearly all characters English JAMES BOND: Franchise from England, most of the characters English THE DARK KNIGHT: Directed by a brit, many of the actors English, including Christian Bale, one of the biggest genre actors at the moment Radiohead, Coldplay - arguably biggest bands in the world, (for better or worse) - both English --- yall should stop pretending that England is this kooky little country that you don't quite get when most of the biggest pop cultural phenomenon are related to that place.
Toronto International Film Festival... by DanielKurland	Aug 13th, 2008 07:58:27 PM
Where is the most up to date film schedule? I've been checking their site every day and haven't seen anything mentioned about this or Danny Boyle. I'm dying to know what's going to be playing there.
Wow, new Kaufman and Aronofsky at TIFF... by DanielKurland	Aug 13th, 2008 08:02:45 PM
I cannot wait...I found a press release.
Revolver by Ironmuskrat	Aug 13th, 2008 08:09:02 PM
Revolver was a hard movie for me to wrap my head around. Is it possible to have no idea what is going on in a movie and still like it? Several scenes were enjoyable, Ray Liotta trying to save himself from his own bodyguards and Sorter's homicidal meltdown, but in the end all the individual acts don't add up to movie that makes any sense in the end. I guess I must be one of those mouth breathers that just didn't get it. But I will give Ritchie credit, after several attempts he actually squeezed something close to an acting performance from Jason Statham.
Suit got it right by clone-o-mat	Aug 13th, 2008 08:11:30 PM
This would never open big. Sorry. It's niche. Niche don't open big.
Can't believe AICN actually has a decent WRITER on the staff... by JimCurry	Aug 13th, 2008 08:28:23 PM
Good job Beaks, you don't make me cringe with every paragraph, as is usually the case 'round here.
I'll only say ficus by DarthScotland	Aug 13th, 2008 08:37:47 PM
if i didnt visit this site regularly I would have probably overlooked Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, truly awesome film, as underated and overlooked as Last boy scout. Im willing to give rocknrolla a go, but not in the paying money at the cinema sense, revolver was just too shit to offer mr ritchie any more of my money
Guy Ritchie pwns teh suk by The Artist Formerly Known as Man of Stool	Aug 13th, 2008 08:40:40 PM
Guy Ritchie pwns teh suk
oh and the hollywood 'english' thing... by DarthScotland	Aug 13th, 2008 08:47:33 PM
...if you will permit the football/soccer analogy, hollywood is the premiership. Its a national institution with silly amounts of corrupt money thrown at it but doesnt actually contain many players from that country but gets insulted when people bring that up and even though it contains hundreds of players/actors coaches/directors and managers/producers from around the world, it still couldnt give a shit about their leagues and teams. So its not too hard to understand the attitude, fucked up as it is. To be honest no one gives a shit about french or spanish cinema here, ever though some really decent films get made.......fuck bollywood though
Latest TIFF Update by Garbageman33	Aug 13th, 2008 08:54:21 PM
Seems like a lot of good choices (remove spaces). http://tiff08.ca/press/pressre leases/default.aspx?newsId=577
" didn't get much out of LOCK, STOCK AND TWO SMOKING BARRELS or by Paulseta	Aug 13th, 2008 09:03:16 PM
And yet there you are at the bottom of the page, begging people who know better to buy the BR disc of Speed Racer - a film so awful that it very nearly gave me stomach cancer within the first half hour. Interesting side note to that - a friend of mine actually threw up in the cinema during Speed Racer... but he assures me that it had nothing to do with the seven beers and two cheeseburgers he had for lunch. Try watching Lock Stock again, and then maybe even try watching Snatch again. These are really solid, really funny films that hold up to repeat viewings. What the fuck is it about English humour and film that seems to elude the supposedly more film-literate folks on the other side of the Atlantic?
Guilty As Charged, micodin808 by mrbeaks	Aug 13th, 2008 09:23:59 PM
That's why I'm a sucker for the Don Simpson of Japanese cinema. http://dvdjourn al.com/quickreviews/e/earlysum mer_cc.q.shtml
LOCK STOCK was awesome by Mullah Omar	Aug 13th, 2008 10:30:25 PM
It didn't play for very long in US theaters, but that's where I saw it, and I loved that film. That film was a breath of fresh air in its time, but it's been aped so much since then - even by Ritchie himself - that the impact has surely lessened. But anyone who saw LOCK STOCK when it was released and was not impressed and/or entertained loses a bit of film credibility in my book.
if it's as good as kkbb by the podosphere	Aug 13th, 2008 11:13:45 PM
i'll find one of those 800 screens.
It's good to see some KKBB love by David Cloverfield	Aug 14th, 2008 01:23:07 AM

I was one of the few people that went to see KKBB by GQtaste	Aug 14th, 2008 01:30:18 AM
and I also own it on dvd. I'ts a great film that doesn't get made hardly ever. I went to see RDJ and Val play off one another and of course it had that nice piece of ass Michelle M. and the forgotten about Corbin Bernsen as the bady. And not but least flikca as the hot as fuck flight attendant. People you should remember this isn't the seventies anymore. Public aren't' as adventures as they used to be. They want, for the most part stupid stuff like 300, fast and forever, rom comedies, feel gooders, etc. Not something w/ a smaller budget that has great actors and a tight script to work w/. I'd take ten kkkbb's over the next ten cartoon tween moves' any day.
People who lament the death by comedian_x	Aug 14th, 2008 01:32:37 AM
of movie theaters, there is your guilty party -- the studios. There is an audience for this film in every town in this nation if the studios would only bother to find them. If they rolled this movie out slowly and let word of mouth spread it could play for a long time and definitely make back its money.
I'll see ROCKNROLLA on DVD by thegreatwhatzit	Aug 14th, 2008 02:18:34 AM
No, I won't. I'd rather watch GUMBY reruns. Unless he negotaites a special introduction for Madoona when she horns-in on his inevitable "special bonus" interview. "You know her as Madonna...I know her as my jock-addicted, overage, p.r. parasitic old hag of a wife. You ever see any of her movies? I didn't think so."
Kiss kiss bang Bang by Nice Mr Death	Aug 14th, 2008 04:18:37 AM
Raped my arse and I enjoyed it.
Comparisons by schnide	Aug 14th, 2008 05:15:57 AM
"Also, I've spoken to a nearly respectable individual who's seen ROCKNROLLA, and he thinks it's "as good as SNATCH"." As good as Snatch, or the SAME as Snatch? Because Guy Ritchie is a one-note director and a flat note at that. And I'm English, your Mockney bullshit doesn't sell to me Mr Madonna.
Memories-Of-Murder by Nice Mr Death	Aug 14th, 2008 06:16:38 AM
So are you saying shane Black needs to learn how to write villains? It's unclear.
I liked revolver... by nukethefridge	Aug 14th, 2008 06:17:17 AM
...when I saw it in the cinema. Then I read the reviews and they told me I didn't. Now I think its crap. Thank you reviews, thaviews.
I'd rather see a Kiss Kiss Bang Bang sequel. by Knuckleduster	Aug 14th, 2008 07:10:00 AM
Nothing against Ritchie. I quite enjoyed Lock Stock and Snatch, but could never buy into the whole "Ritchie is the new Tarantino" hype (that's a pretty stupid comparison, anyway). Granted, I still haven't seen Swept Away or Revolver, but Ritchie has yet to prove to me that he's a great filmmaker, rather than just a guy who makes fun movies. Shane Black, on the other hand, really knows what he's doing. He may be new to directing, but if anyone knows action, it's him. He wrote Lethal Weapon and The Last Boyscout. He was Hawkins in Predator, for fuck's sake. Gotta respect that.
Speed Racer is destined to be a huge cult hit. by knowthyself	Aug 14th, 2008 08:12:35 AM
No way was this movie was bad in any way shape or form. Really makes me wonder about critics sometimes.
enjoyed both movies and by Russman	Aug 14th, 2008 08:28:14 AM
this one looks fun. Haters - suck it.
Danny Boyle's Sunshine... by lynxpro	Aug 14th, 2008 09:12:37 AM
The problem with Sunshine is that if you've seen Event Horizon then you've already seen the best parts of Sunshine. Granted, it is a good looking Blu-ray release.
regarding BBC America... by lynxpro	Aug 14th, 2008 09:15:30 AM
I really hate how BBC America shows Doctor Who. I hate the splash screen they throw up each time they go to commercial because it ruins the drama. People biotch and moan about the cuts SciFi Channel makes to the program but I feel their presentation of the material is 100% better...plus SciFi's custom Who logo looks much better than BBC America's customized version. Hell, I prefer SciFi's customized version over the current "Space Taxi" NewWho logo since it looks so damn cheesy.
Whats wrong with British? by DanboJohnJ	Aug 14th, 2008 09:24:52 AM
racist hollywood? it's like me(an english fellow)refusing to watch Transformer coz it's too american?what a load of fuckking bollocks.
Corbin Bernsen isn't forgotten... by lynxpro	Aug 14th, 2008 09:26:06 AM
...he's on USA's Psych tv series. Hell, even though this place is a bastion for everything Bruce Campbell, I'm sure most TalkBackers are completely unaware that he's been on USA's Burn Notice for two seasons.
Speed Racer was alright. by UltimaRex	Aug 14th, 2008 09:30:56 AM
JUST alright BTW. Too focused on being pretty rather than being a movie.
I hope this gets it's fair share of press by Broseph	Aug 14th, 2008 11:13:44 AM
solid cast.i dont know wtf richie was thinking with swept away and revolver was so boring i went to sleep before it was over after ordering it on pay per veiw.so that should tell you how lame that was.I Loved LOCK, STOCK AND TWO SMOKING BARRELS AND SNATCH.SO i will definitely support this film and danny boyle is a very gifted director i think his body of work is amazing.including the beach
AND by Broseph	Aug 14th, 2008 11:16:05 AM
Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang is FUCKING AWESOME.BUGNUTZ FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM
Homophobic Dick by The Alienist	Aug 14th, 2008 11:22:39 AM
Ever since Madonna's brother's book came out and we found out what an anti-gay asshole the bastard is, I can't applaud enough the failure of every Guy Richie endeavor.
I just got off the phone with Troy Duffy by ArcadianDS	Aug 14th, 2008 12:39:49 PM
he says he's got a script for Boondock Saints II that will make him the next Guy Ritchie. Then I asked him about money and he said that he was on the phone with me as a favor and I should be honored just to hang onto his coattails. Then he got a call from Sonic - he was 10 minutes late and the drive-thru was already 6 cars deep so he had to go.
Huh??? by Halloween68	Aug 14th, 2008 12:39:53 PM
How can anybody not be a fan of LOCK, STOCK and SNATCH? These are 2 of the best caper films to release in the past 20 to 30 yrs. Both films are brilliant. Both have a unique voice and an utterly unique sense of humor. How can you ask for anything more? I'm praying ROCKNROLLA is a return to form for Richie. He was one of my favorite working film makers before SWEPT AWAY. REVOLVER didn't earn him back any points either. I've been wondering how much Vaughn had to do with Richie's early success in filmmaking, but if this most recent release is a return to form, I'm willing to bite my tongue big time. Anybody know if Big Chris/Bullet Tooth Tony will make an appearance in this one? By far, Richie's best inspiration for over-the-top characters.
Talkbackers are so fucking fickle by half vader	Aug 14th, 2008 01:05:13 PM
I saw KKBB at the flicks then got the HD version. Great stuff, and I didn't know anything apart from RDJr being in it going in. But I'd sure love to go back and read all the TB posts of you guys saying it would be fucking garbage because the guy who did Lethal Weapon was "too old for this shit". You hypocrites never give a writer or director a break after a misfire/dud/clichéd/"uncool" movie any other time, that's for DAMN sure...
As for that book, who knew Madge was such a cunt?! by half vader	Aug 14th, 2008 01:10:16 PM
Rhetorical question. We all did. Even if Ritchie keeps up his Pommie tough boy appearances by ripping on the faggy boys (spot the quote), it's still be better if he got the kids, for their sake. She's just bitter Kylie took the queen of the queens title from her over a decade ago...
Revolver was brilliant by Magnum Opus	Aug 14th, 2008 01:53:39 PM
Sure dude from Outkast was poor casting, but I bet Revolver is Deepak Chopra's favorite movie. The most common reason for the hatred is "it doesn't make sense," which just proves that most viewers are simpletons.
i loved speed racer by maluquiro	Aug 14th, 2008 02:27:54 PM
one of the best movies to come out this year.
I quite liked Revolver by The Rabbit Of Carrot Shaped Doom	Aug 14th, 2008 04:54:09 PM
Granted, it's not a movie I often revisit but i find more pleasure in Revolver than something charmless such as "Transformers". All always though, a movie's worth is subjective.
regarding blu-ray by bernard	Aug 14th, 2008 07:16:36 PM
every time i go into best buy, they've got a demo or two of blu ray running and it looks like SHIT. at least the spidey 3 and batman begins blu ray treatment look like shit. i really don't understand what the appeal is. to me it takes cinema down a few notches and makes everything look like really really bad news footage. i don't know if its the 29 fps or what but it looks fucking ridiculous whenever the camera moves...dollying, panning, whatever. does anyone else see this? am i too old? what the fuck!?
oh yeah by bernard	Aug 14th, 2008 07:17:44 PM
...and i did enjoy speed racer, but i'll be buying it on that archaic medium they call regular dvd.
Sorter was the greatest anti-hero ever!!! by ProzacMorris	Aug 14th, 2008 07:45:10 PM
That's just a, a feeling, I had.
yes Bernard by half vader	Aug 15th, 2008 02:01:44 AM
There's something wrong. Spidey 3 might be a dog's breakfast, but it does LOOK amazing. You even have to ask about the goons at best buy? Yes, all the moron AV types like to hawk the 100/120hz thing you're seeing, but it's NOT for movies anyway! That's what the 24fps direct playback is all about. Infinitely better than standard DVD's 3/2 pulldown, because it just plays the straight 24 frames per second the movie was projected at in the first place. The 100hz bullshit is faster scanning for things like sports and text and stuff. These morons think it makes movies 'pop' in the same way they do the shutter angle thing on film to get rid of the motion blur on the McDonalds lettuce shots to make it look "crisp-er". Whatever man. Go to a decent place where they calibrate sets rather than overbrightening/oversaturating everything. You're not too old, you're just looking in the wrong place.

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