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The Ratnerized MOTHER'S DAY Is Apparently Moving Forward...

The Rat! by kwisatzhaderach	Aug 13th, 2008 07:38:11 AM
Leader of the Hack Pack!
An 80's Gem! by SeymourClearly	Aug 13th, 2008 07:38:37 AM
Saw this in the theaters back in the early 80's. Laughed my ass off!! They need to include the Queenie character in the remake!!!
If a crappy director makes a formulaic movie in the woods... by FlickaPoo	Aug 13th, 2008 07:59:01 AM
...and nobody goes to see it...does it...um...make a sound? Sort of fizzled at the end there...
How bout this one: If a crappy director leaves the... by FlickaPoo	Aug 13th, 2008 08:01:31 AM
...station traveling at fifty miles an hour...
Brett Ratners : Another mother fucking payday by Mr_X	Aug 13th, 2008 08:03:40 AM
we love you man, come for an interview dude, it worked for mcg
haven't seen the original... by dingus khan	Aug 13th, 2008 08:06:45 AM

haven't seen the original... by dingus khan	Aug 13th, 2008 08:07:41 AM
...but, let me just say... ...it looks like there isn't nearly enough rape in it for MY discerning rape tastes.
I remember when AICN pretended to tolerate The Rat. by rbatty024	Aug 13th, 2008 08:12:01 AM
Are those days gone? It certainly seems like it, and thank goodness. Let's just be honest about what a hack director this guy is. He's truly what's wrong with Hollywood today. A director with a modicum of talent who's a regular yes man and too much of a pussy to stand up to the studios. It's like Hollywood made him out of a test tube or something.
what's with remaking a bad movie? by ciroslive	Aug 13th, 2008 08:20:05 AM
If its a movie that I've never heard of it can't be that good so why not remake it? I'm definitely into people remaking crap movies but not classics like Escape from New York...
STUPID LESBIANS! by letsfightinglove	Aug 13th, 2008 08:20:19 AM
...best line of movie uttered by backwoods shopkeeper.
Thats a fantastically by tomdolan04	Aug 13th, 2008 08:22:30 AM
retarded dry write up of what will likely be a retarded flick. Seriously this film in all likely hood will be an overproduced unnecessary remake of a low-fi good 80's flick. I'd wish they embargo all of ratners flicks till hell freezes over so this publicity hungry monkey suffocates into obscurity. At least it keeps him off EFNY. Or does it?
ratner is a screen wizard! by dingus khan	Aug 13th, 2008 08:28:16 AM
he had dark phoenix, magneto, juggernaut, and an angry army of evil mutants defeated by frasier. do you know what happens to "mother's day" when it's directed by brett ratner? the same thing that happens to everything else.
BREAKING NEWS: by ArcadianDS	Aug 13th, 2008 08:31:42 AM
JJ ABRAMS NOT TO DIRECT REMAKE OF MOTHERS DAY.
Still can by jzarbaugh	Aug 13th, 2008 08:33:12 AM

Still can by jzarbaugh	Aug 13th, 2008 08:33:14 AM

WAAAAAAHHHHHH BRETTS GONNA RUIN ANOTHER CLASSIC!! by DANNYGLOVERS_DlCKBLOOD	Aug 13th, 2008 08:34:23 AM
WAAAAHHHH! Give it a rest, the guy's better than you are. Rush Hour 1&2, After the Sunset, Family Man, Red Dragon are all classics. The guy could give a shit about what you think.
Did ANYONE Like Red Dragon Besides Me? by cowboyone	Aug 13th, 2008 08:41:44 AM
Granted, Ratner is a complete douche as a human, but as a director, I believe he has some good movies in him. (One so far)
oops- by jzarbaugh	Aug 13th, 2008 08:46:26 AM
I still can't get some of those images out of my mind. Saw this one as a kid and came away thinking it had some of the most violent and gory scenes in any movie at the time. SPOILERS (if it is even possible to spoil this film): A rope digs through the hands of a girl. A man gets hit in the crotch with an axe. Another has Drano poured down his throat which causes him to violently vomit. And let's not forget the rape. Speaking as a parent, I should have never been allowed to watch this film at my age. But looking back, I can't help but wonder how the B-movie effects hold up now. As a kid, the only movie that rattled me more than "Mother's Day" is "Zombie". I think it is an Italian film. Some girl was hiding in a closet when a zombie found her. He broke through the door and pulled her through- pushing a huge splinter slowly into her eye. I can't tell you how good the effects were because it still remains the only time I closed my eyes during a horror film. Hey- I was like 10 or 11 at the time. I think you can give me that.
Fuck Brett Ratnet by Crow3711	Aug 13th, 2008 08:49:39 AM
I know its a little overused at this point and has little to no meaning, but seriously, fuck this guy. And yea cowboy, Red Dragon manages to not be a terrible movie, but that doesnt mean he isnt a hack. Even he can get a decent script and turn in something mostly watchable.
he's... by dingus khan	Aug 13th, 2008 09:00:34 AM
...a juggernaut. bitch.
If the Crystal Drano scene in is... by Shepard Wong	Aug 13th, 2008 09:00:45 AM
then so am I. I'm no Ratner fan, but how much worse could it be than the original.
new freddy kruger is................. by gomez33	Aug 13th, 2008 09:05:28 AM
Billy bob thornton. A bit weird but interesting casting.
I remeber this movie by RoarsLoudly	Aug 13th, 2008 09:06:41 AM
and how repulsed I was by the rape scence(s) in it and the gore was just as repulsive. This was one 80's movie that defenitely got under your skin.
I Like Rush Hour 1 by CharyouTree	Aug 13th, 2008 09:06:47 AM
oww.. ouch ...s-sto...ouch... wai- aaa...ow will you guys stop pelting me with stuff!
Someone liked Red Dragon?? by kafka07	Aug 13th, 2008 09:15:53 AM
Wow didn't know you were out there. You're unique. :) Maybe we should be grateful Rat's working on Mother's Day, that way it will keep him from making even more outrageous disasters....for now.
I liked Red Dragon by ciroslive	Aug 13th, 2008 09:26:51 AM
Ratner's not a master of his craft but he can do good work. Ratner is the sit down chain restaurant of film-making. Not the best, not the worst.
Dingus... by hillingdon	Aug 13th, 2008 09:44:49 AM
That Brett Ratner line had me in stitches...
Whiny by Eats_sandwich_gets_laid.	Aug 13th, 2008 09:53:54 AM
"Probally because your stupid." Any other time I wouldn't stoop to correcting grammar, but due to the subject I couldn't pass this one up. I believe you meant to write PROBABLY, and I'm pretty sure you meant to use YOU'RE, which is the contraction of you are. Just trying to help out.
Coming up next... by skimn	Aug 13th, 2008 09:53:56 AM
..remakes of My Bloody Valentine, He Knows You're Alone, New Year's Day, and any other cheesy '80s slasher flick that made a bit of profit.
Is It Time To Start Feeling Sorry For Ratner? by TroutMaskReplicant	Aug 13th, 2008 09:55:28 AM
After all, we can blame his misappropriation of X-Men and Lecter as the actions of fuckwit/greedy executives and producers. I don't think Ratner would even be on most people's radar but for those movies. Saying this, I hate X-Men 3 with a bloodthirsty passion.
"Bedelia, where's my cake?" by Shut the Fuck up Donny	Aug 13th, 2008 09:57:24 AM
Oh wait...That's Father's Day!
BAD FILMMAKERS... by Banzai Rootskibango	Aug 13th, 2008 09:58:18 AM
...like this dingleberry and P.W.S. Anderson wouldn't bother me as much if they weren't given such viable properties to ruin such as Resident Evil, AVP, Red Dragon, X-Men...
"Red Dragon"'s redeeming factor by Shut the Fuck up Donny	Aug 13th, 2008 10:00:45 AM
was that it eventually introduced me to "Manhunter." I fucking love that movie.
fuck that! Spirit footage leaked on YT!!!! by brassai2003	Aug 13th, 2008 10:05:40 AM
This is fo real. it's the footage shown at comic con. Two things. One: it..ummm....stinks. Two: Miller should stay far, far away from a camera. http://tiny.cc/W DDNR
brassai2003 by TroutMaskReplicant	Aug 13th, 2008 10:12:35 AM
Horrible. Just horrible.
Troutmaster by brassai2003	Aug 13th, 2008 10:29:59 AM
ahhh..yeah. it's pretty bad. WORSE then Speed Racer bad it seems. If this clip is any indication!
Manhunter by kwisatzhaderach	Aug 13th, 2008 10:32:51 AM
shits all over Red Dragon.
Now casting for extras! by Itto Ogami loses Daigoro	Aug 13th, 2008 10:53:53 AM
in West VA
I Am Indeed The Master Of Trout by TroutMaskReplicant	Aug 13th, 2008 10:54:17 AM
This talkback is super slow. Could it be people have puked out all their Ratner hate? Ratner's going to party tonight, in his underground roller-disco or whatever he has.
You take a script written by an Oscar winner for a prior Harris by skimn	Aug 13th, 2008 11:01:36 AM
adaptation and put Anthony friggin Hopkins in his signature role, Norton, Finnes, Hoffman, Keitel, Watson et all, in front of the camera and come up with something as pedestrian as Red Dragon, it takes an astounding lack of creativity. And that is the reason for the Ratner hate. He is at best a pedestrian director, with a perchant to attract high profile projects.
KINGDOM_OF_THE_CRYSTAL_SKULLFUCK by kwisatzhaderach	Aug 13th, 2008 11:03:14 AM
Yeah, Mann vs Ratner - tough contest. Amazing use of music in Manhunter too, especially In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida by Iron Butterfly. Inspired combination of music and visuals.
And DannyGloverDick Blood by skimn	Aug 13th, 2008 11:05:20 AM
You accuse Richard Donner of being a bad director, but come to the defense of Ratner?? Ratner wishes he could direct as well as Donner, whose efforts are a pale imitation of the superhero film and buddy-cop formula Donner helped create.
No thanks, i'll pass by liljuniorbrown	Aug 13th, 2008 11:05:29 AM
From what i hear they are remaking My Bloody Valentine (after the smashing success of Prom Night) along with every other crappy 80's horror flick. Some of those movies are just better off forgotten,and really how many rape scenes do you need in one movie? There are some weird mother fuckers walking around this planet.
that was pretty funny Dingus by T 1000 xp professional	Aug 13th, 2008 11:06:36 AM

Manhunter is 10 times the movie... by Somerichs	Aug 13th, 2008 11:11:59 AM
Red Dragon was. Even with it's silly name spellings, 80s vibe, and changes to the book. Or maybe it's because of them. All I know is Dennis Farina should have been Jack Crawford in every single movie that's been made from one of these properties, he's that good. And the scene with In-A-Gadda-De-Vida playing? fuckin gold. And don't even get me started on Brian Cox's interpretation of Hannibal "Lecktor"... As for Red Dragon, it should have been a classic for the ages, instead, and even with that amazing cast, it's just "meh." Very by the numbers, and whether that's just cos I compare it to Manhunter or it comes by that distinction honestly I can't say. would be curious to know what others who never saw Manhunter first thought... "You're so sly, but so am I!"
Red Dragon was fucking boring by mefrog	Aug 13th, 2008 11:19:46 AM
Seriously, it had GREAT source material PLUS Ed Norton and Mr. Hopkins... what the hell happened? There was an utter lack of tension in that film - the only part I smiled at was the very end when Hannibal is introduced to Clarice. But the rest... crap.
Red Dragon was fucking boring by mefrog	Aug 13th, 2008 11:19:46 AM
Seriously, it had GREAT source material PLUS Ed Norton and Mr. Hopkins... what the hell happened? There was an utter lack of tension in that film - the only part I smiled at was the very end when Hannibal is introduced to Clarice. But the rest... crap.
Why does this guy still get work? by SithScorp	Aug 13th, 2008 11:34:44 AM
ratner is a hack of the highest magnitude. He will NEVER be forgiven to what he did to the X franchise. He should pack it in and go hide under a rock, never to go anywhere near a movie production EVER again!
Ratner gets work because Fox needs a whipping boy... by rbatty024	Aug 13th, 2008 11:43:10 AM
who will do their bidding. Ratner is kind of like the gimp the studios keep in the basement and then they bring him out whenever they need someone who will take orders without question. If some studio execs have a bukkake fetish then it's time to bring out The Rat!
3 Things by Fireball XL-5	Aug 13th, 2008 11:46:54 AM
1) If this remake does not include the ongoing "Rock sucks!" "Disco's stupid!" argument between the two brothers, I ain't seein' it. 2) Definitely expand the role of Queenie. The best part of Mother's Day was when she jumped up from behind that bush looking like Ted Nugent. 3) When Ratner's done with this remake, he should tackle "Neon Maniacs." 3)
GOOD CALL! by daroru	Aug 13th, 2008 12:05:33 PM
This should work out well!
Ratner following the lead of Bay?? by skimn	Aug 13th, 2008 12:32:42 PM
Remaking 20 to 30 year old horror flicks..?
X-MEN 3: FRANCHISE KILLER by TroutMaskReplicant	Aug 13th, 2008 12:42:22 PM
And yet there are 3 more X-Men movies in the works...the most sickening thing about X-Men 3 is the amount of money it made.
not everyone has to be an "artist" by Rupee88	Aug 13th, 2008 12:52:50 PM
Ratner is a skilled hack director just trying to make a living...there is nothing wrong with that. Not everyone has a point of view or an artistic bone in their body. He makes a lot of money and fucks a lot of hot chicks...he's not worth hating. And X3 made like fifty zillion dollars, so he didn't fuck up that badly.
Ratner didn't write the script for X3 you retards by Rupee88	Aug 13th, 2008 12:55:52 PM
sorry but some of you are just fucking stupid and clueless. Do you really blame him for how shitty that film was? He was brought in late on that project to replace another director. That film was so terrible because of YOU. Because of every one of you who paid money to see it and support it, just like you do with other shitty movies. The suits knew you were fucking stupid and they made a bad film and it made hundreds of millions of dollars...that buys a lot of coke and whores so I sure can't blame them....grow the fuck up.
Actually It Wasn't Just The Script by TroutMaskReplicant	Aug 13th, 2008 01:02:10 PM
If you can't see Ratner's inability to direct a scene, then it's not worth arguing against it. And I'm not the only one who noticed that the quality of acting seriously dropped off in X-Men 3. Ian McKellan spent much of the film looking like he was desperately trying to hold in explosive diarrhea. But if we really want to blame anyone, it's Tom Rothman.
And you can't blame people for going to see X-Men 3 by TroutMaskReplicant	Aug 13th, 2008 01:04:33 PM
If they liked X-2 and hoped for the best. Now toddle off Rupee88.
Ratner's entirely inoffensive by palimpsest	Aug 13th, 2008 01:11:27 PM
tho I bet he wakes up each morning and slaps himself around the face to reassure himself that it's not all been a dream. Somehow he manages to get involved with either can't-miss concepts and/or awesome production packages and franchises, and he manages to deliver profitable, multiplex friendly movies. Then he goes home to his disco mansion and fucks some more women on a bed upholstered with our money. Frankly, good for him. FAMILY MAN and AFTER THE SUNSET both prove he has no vision of his own, though the success (not necessarily artistic) of the RUSH HOUR movies, X3 and RED DRAGON mean he's got a job for life. I remember a Jonathan Demme interview when he was talking about how Ratner would ring him incessantly to get RED DRAGON as LAMBS-like as possible, and the finished product shows he's capable at least of fashioning a passable forgery. He doesn't claim to be a fanboy or a geek. He's just as lucky fuck with some organisational skills.
little stab there by SpawnofAchilles	Aug 13th, 2008 01:25:18 PM
at bloodydisgusting "poorly worded" although it is indeed very poorly worded, but did it need to be said? I think so
Charles Kaufman's most recent screen credit... by Subtlety	Aug 13th, 2008 01:31:30 PM
writer of an episode of "the Real Ghost Busters." Nice. Never thought I'd say this, but it looks like brother Lloyd ended up as the bankable one.
I'm still waiting for that movie "Thanksgiving" by Cotton McKnight	Aug 13th, 2008 04:24:52 PM
I am still laughing at that.
Thank you, Rupee88. by Irina Spanko	Aug 13th, 2008 05:03:47 PM
People need to realize that Brett Ratner is not responsible for all the ills of X3. It was a terrible script, forced through by Fox, and he was merely hired to come in and film what they had as quickly as possible. He couldn't have made changes if he wanted to.
Red Dragon by enderandrew	Aug 13th, 2008 05:31:06 PM
Red Dragon is much, much better than Manhunter. It is clearly Ratner's best film. But he was adapting a great novel, and had a truly stellar cast. Even Ratner couldn't fuck that up, because all he had to do was sit in his chair and yell "cut!"
Neon Maniacs intro by Fireball XL-5	Aug 13th, 2008 05:35:12 PM
"When the world is ruled by violence, and the soul of mankind fades, the children's path shall be darkened by the shadows of the Neon Maniacs." If that doesn't scream remake, nothing does.
this looks like... by DigitalBeachWar	Aug 13th, 2008 08:02:17 PM
... The Last House On The Left. only really shitty(in a good way).
I still don't see why everyone hates X3 by Playkins	Aug 13th, 2008 10:45:51 PM
It was FAR superior to the first X-Men, and as taken as the third act in one big movie (X-Men and X2 being acts 1 & 2), it does just fine. Red Dragon wasn't "Manhunter" (which is a classic, IMHO), but it was way, WAY better than "Hannibal" AND "Hannibal Rising". Ratner did a fine job emulating the look and feel of :Silence of the Lambs". Give him a break, it costs you nothing to ignore him. I don't like hearing that "He directed a bad movie so he must die a gruesome death" bullshit. Grow up.
Manhunter owned Red Dragon by TVguy4566	Aug 13th, 2008 11:09:56 PM
Other than the cheesey 80s sountrack, Manhunter was better than Red Dragon in every way. I loved Anthony Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs, but he phoned in the Hannibal Lecter in the other two movies making him a parody. Brian Cox was far creeper. William Peterson a far better Will Graham than Edward Norton. Tom Noonan was far creepier Francis Dolarhyde thay Ralph Finnes. And anyone with a brain knows Michael Mann is a far better director than Ratner. The only thing that the Red Dragon had going for it was that it was faithful to the book for fans of the book. Mann did strip away a lot of Dolarhyde's back story and change the ending. Some for the better.
The people that hate what rat did to X3 by SithScorp	Aug 13th, 2008 11:56:44 PM
Are mostly people that actually READ and RESPECTED the material. Anyone that knows ANYTHING about the filmmaking process understands that a Director decides what gets shot and how it gets shot. ratner did an EPIC FAIL in that respect. HE DID NOT RESPECT THE MATERIAL! ratner should never be allowed near a franchise EVER again. I assume the ONLY reason that the rush hour movies did well is that Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker are talented enough to compensate for that brain-dead waste of flesh.
Mothers day is a stupid holiday... by The Eskimo	Aug 14th, 2008 12:16:14 AM
...why don they have a Kids Day, huh?
mcg & ratner by Smithys.Bark	Aug 14th, 2008 01:16:29 AM
I wonder whether they could do something together...man, the stench, I can smell it now!!!
Cowboyone, I for one LOVE it! by Sith Witch	Aug 14th, 2008 01:24:24 AM

Awful movie...what's the point? by thegreatwhatzit	Aug 14th, 2008 02:28:00 AM

"HE DID NOT RESPECT THE MATERIAL" by Playkins	Aug 14th, 2008 02:35:03 AM
Right. Didn't read or respect the material. You mean the material that is so convoluted, retold, negated, restarted, and "ultimated"? The material that's been floating around in different incarnations for 40 years? Brian Singer's interpretation wasn't any closer to the material. He was just given more time, a bigger budget, and a better script. Ratner did all right.
I'd prefer to see Eli Roth's Thanksgiving by beefywhore	Aug 14th, 2008 07:27:26 AM
to Brett Ratners Mothers Day
Memories-Of-Murder: Not "embarraced" at all. by Playkins	Aug 14th, 2008 12:34:42 PM
I'm not embarrassed, either. While you're chiding me for being a young simpleton and grasping for straws, let me remind you that you totally skated the issue and changed the subject. And for being an apparent "old, smart guy", you've misspelled an amazing amount of words.
Not to mention, M-O-M: by Playkins	Aug 14th, 2008 12:44:07 PM
Your opinion is not the end-all definitive opinion of fandom. I know more people the LOVED X3 than people that hated it. In fact, the only people I know that venomously attack Brett Ratner are people that post here.
DANNYGLOVER by shodan6672	Aug 14th, 2008 01:13:50 PM
I realize you are trolling for a reaction and others have echoed my sentiment, but with Red Dragon Ratner did the impossible, it took a riveting book and made it pedestrian and boring. The only good thing about it was Philip Seymour Hoffman. Example: Every time there was a plot development, there was a close up of the currently speaking actor; painful. It was like a slightly less annoying CSI Miami.
Playkins by shodan6672	Aug 14th, 2008 01:16:02 PM
People are entitled to their opinions, but how is it even possible that someone LOVED X3? Tolerated it, sure, liked it? possible...Loved it...how? What was lovable about it?
I'd prefer to see Eli Roth's Thanksgiving by Broseph	Aug 14th, 2008 03:03:07 PM
White Meat Dark Meat all will be served
shodan6672 by Playkins	Aug 14th, 2008 09:02:03 PM
I can't speak for anyone else, but as for the people I saw it with and myself, we had fun watching it. Pure and simple. It wasn't as heavy as X2, didn't weigh the story down with too many new themes. It was a perfect act three. It finished the story, and was a good climax. When you think of the X-Men films as one big movie, it makes sense.

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