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Good, no cuts
by Charlie Murphy
Aug 10th, 2008
05:11:37 PM
that's all i needed to know.
although free speech about allah, muslims and the koran
by Mr_X
Aug 10th, 2008
05:13:52 PM
will have you --//\/\/\/\ carrier signal lost.../\/\/\\\/\/\----
Just for that shit you tried to pull Do-Gooders...
by smackfu
Aug 10th, 2008
05:19:48 PM
I've decided to increase my usage of the word 'retard' by 300%. My goal is to bring it back as a commonplace word that is used daily by everyone. Retards.
the world has gone to P.C
by harrisonfnord
Aug 10th, 2008
05:24:12 PM
there s too much emphasiss on pc these days. the world is a worse place for it
This is what happens
by jvblhc
Aug 10th, 2008
05:27:45 PM
When they first started legislating against "hate speech" (and who defines what that is, anyway?), it was inevitable it would lead to stuff like this.
I dont have much to add
by Mezzanine
Aug 10th, 2008
05:29:26 PM
to what Harry said other than the fact that these people must be a bunch of fucking retards.
Fucking PC do gooders
by photoboy
Aug 10th, 2008
05:29:37 PM
Downey Jr fully blacked will be in their sights next.
yay! go hollywood
by princess432
Aug 10th, 2008
05:30:01 PM
give them an inch is right on. Don't do it. a great short to lift up your spirits:http://www.youtube.com /watch?v=YSuEhu6Elxc
Free Speech is under attack in the Script Girl TB too....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Aug 10th, 2008
05:32:06 PM
Only a "retarded
by DougMcKenzie
Aug 10th, 2008
05:32:37 PM
Do-gooders is the wrong word
by TroutMaskReplicant
Aug 10th, 2008
05:36:11 PM
It suggests they might actually be doing good. Where I come from they call them busy-bodies but meddlers would be good too. I imagine said parties haven't seen the film?
It's bad on both sides.
by iamnicksaicnsn
Aug 10th, 2008
05:36:49 PM
Can't just lump anti-free-speechers to the right or to the left. The sad fact is that the extremists of any political leaning want to get rid of speech, and to them I say "You can suck my big fat cock you retard extremist bastards!"

And don't you fucking touch my internet you infantile cum-buckets!

I agree Harry
by JimBobCooter
Aug 10th, 2008
05:38:25 PM
While I do think it's in poor taste to belittle those who cannot defend themselves... I agree that we are in America and the market can decide. Society absolutely has a right to look out for the less fortunate, but the whole point of a ratings system is to make sure adults (i.e. discerning people who get the joke) can watch.

Paramount and DreamWorks did the right thing. And it was ballsy to do, too. So yeah for America!

Of Course As You Can See...
by TroutMaskReplicant
Aug 10th, 2008
05:38:27 PM
The mere mention of the phrase P.C. in Harry's article has brought out the right wing nutjobs. I'm going to bed.
In other news: RDJ's "african american" make-up will be covered
by Mike_D
Aug 10th, 2008
05:38:52 PM
to make him "white" again so its not offensive to the african americans.
At least
by Magma Suit
Aug 10th, 2008
05:42:02 PM
RDJ's role is getting by with a minimum of flack. I think that's a good sign for this country. RETARDRETARDRETARDRETARD
Ah fuck, I just read that SPOILER plot-twist in TROPIC THUNDER
by Mike_D
Aug 10th, 2008
05:42:49 PM
dammit.
Thank god no cuts
by SpencerTrilby
Aug 10th, 2008
05:44:46 PM
it doesn't change the fact that Stiller + Cruise + Downey means rental to me, but I'm glad the studio grew some balls for once. The lobbies and pressure groups totally lost their cred by focusing on art instead of pointing out the REAL segregation, be it in school, sport, medias or work. Way to alienate good-willed people keen on making a change. Dumbasses.
I'm a Mormon
by krushjudgement
Aug 10th, 2008
05:45:09 PM
And I fully support free speech. 100%- Censorship offends me.
These groups are using
by Turd Furgeson
Aug 10th, 2008
05:46:09 PM
terms like "Political Correctness" to undermine the constitution and actually control what people can say or write. They hide behind their 501c3 status, pass judgement at guys like Ben Stiller, and demand his first amendment rights infringed upon because they have no sense of humor and no understanding of the constitution whatsoever. If something offends you, don't read it, don't watch it, don't listen to it. That is your right. Our right is to watch this movie, in context, and make our own decisions about its' moral compass. The United States is being over run by the Neo-Liberals/marksists, we have to start standing up for free speech. If we don't, eventually sites like this will be taken down because the word "Fuck" will offend someone. Get involved in the process everyone, take your country back, please. I don't want to end up like our friends across the pond.
FUCK PC! FUCK IT!!!
by spud mcspud
Aug 10th, 2008
05:46:29 PM
It's wrecking the USA just like it's wrecking my beloved UK. Do NOT give an inch to it. Free speech is the most important freedom there is - without it, there can be no questioning of anything. And a true patriot will ALWAYS question their government and elected leaders.
Josh Brolin
by Sparhawk38
Aug 10th, 2008
05:47:18 PM
I don't think it is fair to slam stars playing the mentally handicapped until we have seen Brolin play "W." for ourselves.
good job harry
by ddog
Aug 10th, 2008
05:50:00 PM
great speech harry !!! feel the same way. hate people that get offended so easily and want everyone to be so politically correct. is there a specific reason why most people have no backbone and get offended at such things as now in tropic thunder ? i mean granted some of us expected it to happen cuz of downey jr being black face and all. its just irritating to me that we live in a place where its expected. you think if they didnt like it they would simply do a bigger injustice and not buy a ticket to the show. i mean who goes to the movies not knowing what its about? sometimes i think these people have it planned ahead of time for publicity or some quota they must achieve. im so for being politically incorrect and utilizing our rights at free speech and see no reason why when its used its then taken away by people like that. . . . once again. good job harry for speakin your part in this "issue"
sparhawk38
by ddog
Aug 10th, 2008
05:51:53 PM
I don't think it is fair to slam stars playing the mentally handicapped until we have seen Brolin play "W." for ourselves. thats hilarious man.
Has the gastric band has cut off Harry's irony valve
by palimpsest
Aug 10th, 2008
05:59:24 PM
See the ScriptGirl TB for details...
There's a difference between being un-p.c. and just being an ass
by terry1978
Aug 10th, 2008
06:01:03 PM
Most people can't seem to differentiate though.
If we can't make fun of retards...
by fiester
Aug 10th, 2008
06:01:20 PM
...then the retards win. And the whole world becomes one big Special Olympics. Which, come to think of it, is a lot like the internet.
oh, and can we have an 'edit' button?
by palimpsest
Aug 10th, 2008
06:03:01 PM
Purleeze? I'll tidy my room, I swear.
Fuck these cunts up their stupid as fuck asses...
by Dr_Zoidberg
Aug 10th, 2008
06:11:19 PM
Unfortunately the people that help and often volunteer to help those with a disability are also often self-righteous assholes. Does their good deeds balance out their assholiness? Probably. But it doesn't make them any less moronic and I can call them stupid cunts all day long. But I still respect what they do because it's not easy, especially helping people with mental disabilities. But free speech works both ways and they can campaign all they want, and I'll ignore all their shite. Because I can.
Did they go after Something About Mary also?
by mrfan
Aug 10th, 2008
06:14:02 PM
I laughed my ass off at the scene where Matt Dillon talks about all the work he is doing with retards, how they got Mongo on a leash with a clothesline, and Mary's brothers antics.
This is not a matter of free speech
by EyeofPolyphemus
Aug 10th, 2008
06:15:26 PM
The first amendment only guarantees the government cannot censor what you say. this is a matter of private citizens or groups exercising their free speech to have something they consider offensive removed. paramount has the right to remove the offensive material or not.

This incident is actually quite healthy. all parties had their say and a compromise was reached. There was no censoring. I do not see why anyone is getting worked up about it. It all worked out exactly like it is supposed to.

NO EDIT BUTTON!
by DocPazuzu
Aug 10th, 2008
06:16:31 PM
It would be the end of talkback.
Scumbags!
by Thunderbolt Ross
Aug 10th, 2008
06:18:42 PM
Fuck these people .. What a bunch of tightasses. Makes me sick. Sick, I say!!!
Pressure group gets publicity...
by palimpsest
Aug 10th, 2008
06:22:10 PM
Film gets publicity. Everybody happy.
IS A "SATIRICAL" COMEDY MADE FOR THE SAKE OF PROFIT
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 10th, 2008
06:23:43 PM
worth the humiliation, hurt, insult, and offense wrought upon mentally-handicapped people?

Do you really need to laugh at their expense?

Does having such a laugh outweigh the dignity of the less fortunate people who must suffer for your entertainment?

Is this really a free speech issue, or is it a moral issue?

Good on YOU Mates.
by Evil Chicken
Aug 10th, 2008
06:24:50 PM
“Political correctness is the death to humor.” – Mel Brooks. Don't change a thing - LET FLY!
OKAY - PEOPLE WHO HELP DISABLED PEOPLE ARE STUPID CUNTS
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 10th, 2008
06:26:58 PM
Got it. Who says you can't learn something new every day?
As a liberal, I find talk of a Voight blacklist absolutely disgu
by IndustryKiller!
Aug 10th, 2008
06:27:18 PM
if you want Jon Voight for your film because hes good for a character, fucking hire him. And if you don't because of his commentary, then you are the unpatriotic asshole. I'm a liberal who thinks what he wrote about barack Obama is ridiculous, but you know how I take it? As an out of touch old guy and his misguided rantings and it has no effect on how I see him or will ever see him on film. he's an actor, not a politician. He's not putting in place any policies, writing any laws, or starting any wars. Just like George Clooney nor Alec Baldwin are on the other side of the spectrum. And anyone who wouldn't see one of their films because of a political bias frankly doesn't deserve to enjoy the art form. They have every right to speak their minds in whatever fashion they feel like given that they are taxpaying American citizens, and I could understand how anyone with passion and a voice that could be heard, may feel an obligation to do so. I'm so sick of the fucking human jokes who go around being offended for the sake of nothing more than giving their pathetic lives a modicum of excitement. You don't like what Jon Voight or the Dixie Chicks or whoever are saying? Step up to the fucking plate and offer a counter argument or wallow in your insignificance with your boycotts and blacklists. If you don't like that your voice isn't as loud as theirs, blame the silly American society that deifies celebrity above everything else rather than the performer, who has no more obligation to shut up and sing or act than you do to shut up and file accounting reports or whatever the fuck you do.
"absolutely disgusting" that should have read
by IndustryKiller!
Aug 10th, 2008
06:27:45 PM
I hate people that overreact to free speech!
by ChocolateReignWasBanned
Aug 10th, 2008
06:31:30 PM
I'm off to write some fan-fic about busty half-asians and the fecal matter that is often hilariously finding it's way to their chests. Ta!
Jonathan Violence, Danny, johnnyjlawless
by Herb West
Aug 10th, 2008
06:32:41 PM
No shit. How many people have been banned by now? 7 or 8?
Do you know what would have been cool?
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Aug 10th, 2008
06:34:51 PM
An AICN article and Talkback on the recent USA Today photos taken from THE ROAD. That's some serious movie news that flew right past this site. I find it strange that there has been nary a word of coverage on the film here.
They're LIBERALS...what do you expect
by rutan07
Aug 10th, 2008
06:35:34 PM
Seriously, the Fairness docturine, silencing any scientist who has misgivings about man-made Global Warming, the list is huge. Liberals only believe in freedom of speech as long as that freedom protects them and their interests. Anything else has to go including satrical send ups that aren't hate speech at all.
what the hell
by antonphd
Aug 10th, 2008
06:36:38 PM
these groups aren't run by mentally disabled people... they aren't speaking for mentally disabled people... they are probably related to a mentally disabled person and they are over sensitive about it all... all of the mentally disabled people I have known in my life from being a foster kid to church and community centers and school... they laugh their asses off as often as they can... they don't want to be rejected or hated, but if it's just good fun then they are laughing too... just like everyone else... you can laugh at something funny that a mentally retarded person does and they'll laugh with you as long as they know you aren't shitting on them... just like all people. It's the superiority propaganda mockery that is fucked up and it's easy to see from this film that it is not that kind of movie. And I bet half these people love to watch Curb Your Enthusiasm but they aren't mentioning that.
EyeofPolyphemus
by Xiphos_2
Aug 10th, 2008
06:37:57 PM
That was a reasoned and well written post. Thank you you for that.
rutan07
by antonphd
Aug 10th, 2008
06:38:47 PM
I don't know a single liberal who is the way you just described. Not a single one. And I expect that you don't either.
Banning folks?
by HEADGEEK
Aug 10th, 2008
06:41:11 PM
I don't read the Script Girl talkbacks - haven't a clue what happened. BUT - we do have a policy about pissing on our carpet here. We don't tolerate actual HATE-SPEECH. The point of this editorial is that Tropic Thunder is not HATEFUL in anyway. Some talkbackers, I, sadly, can't say the same for. They're sometimes just hateful.
And then you guys guys lowering the discourse like Rutan
by IndustryKiller!
Aug 10th, 2008
06:42:56 PM
Who just spits pod people like invective rather than actually making a point. Congratulation Rutan on the douche bag of the talkback so far award. In a political talkback on AICN that's a real feat
To paraquote Starship Troopers 3...
by Alientoast
Aug 10th, 2008
06:44:13 PM
"People can say what they like, as long as they do it alone"
Lame
by mcwheels
Aug 10th, 2008
06:45:31 PM
As an individual who is physically disabled from having muscular dystrophy his whole life, perhaps my perspective is valid in this case. This kind of thing really pisses me off, because when advocacy groups like this get all bent out of shape about something in the media, it just ends up giving more attention to the media in question (all press is good press) and pissing everyone else off at the group in question. In this case it is even more infuriating because the film is not making fun of the mentally handicapped per se, but making fun of those who use the suffering of the mentally handicapped for their own financial or social gains as actors in hollywood. So here you have a great piece of satire which is funny because it's well written and performed which would only create more open discussion and thought about the treatment of the disabled in general. For the most part I'm of the opinion that any presentation or discussion of the disabled (mentally or physically) community in pop culture, whether "politically correct" or not, is a good thing. The fact that most disabled people are overwhelmingly ignored or unrepresented in pop culture is the biggest thing hurting our community, because the unknown is always what we fear the most. If there was a movie that's main comedic premise was torturing the disabled for laughs that would be a different argument all together, but in general we all need to realize that nothing is sacred and everyone is worth being satirized and stop taking ourselves so seriously.
@terry1978 and EyeofPolyphemus
by So-Crates
Aug 10th, 2008
06:46:30 PM
Thanks. You both made the points I was going to make, and in a more succinct fashion than I am capable of. Thank God there is still some reason left on the talkbacks.
if you don't like this, don't vote Obama...
by blue1622
Aug 10th, 2008
06:50:15 PM
did you know online speech throughout most of the EU is censored by strictly enforced/loosely interpreted "hate speech" laws. The US is one of the last holdouts to protect such speech, but many on the left would love to see this instituted here, in the interest of supporting protected class minorities. Me? I'm reluctantly voting McCain, as I enjoy the precious freedom to hate on Scientology, hadicapped activists, and make MoonMan sites on ytmnd.
EyeofPolyphemus FTW.
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Aug 10th, 2008
06:51:03 PM
Well said.
It'd help if you stopped using the phrase "handicap" you twat...
by Mr Chuff
Aug 10th, 2008
06:51:55 PM
Go look up its origin dick-feeler...
Making fun of the disabled
by Rustle
Aug 10th, 2008
06:52:37 PM
Or actors playing the disabled.. Harry you can't expect retards to get that kind of subtlety..
The R-Word
by pjvance1973
Aug 10th, 2008
06:52:52 PM
I think it's a good thing when a minority speaks up about something that bothers them - it helps make other people aware of when they are doing something hurtful. Some people compare the r-word to the n-word - in some ways this is a fair comparison, but in some ways it's even worse - as the r-word is a disparaging term used against a group of people who literally cannot defend themselves. It is even frequently used against people who do not have anything mentally wrong with them, but are unable to communicate effectively due to their disability. I would also disagree with characterizing this as a liberal vs. conservative issue - I have met many people with disabilities from all over the political spectrum, and to a man they will tell you that this is the most hateful, hurtful word that is, sadly, still used against them frequently. Because most able-bodied and able-minded people think it's ok. In the transcripts I've read, the places where the term is used don't seem to have any humor value apart from the fact that that term is used in them -- without it, it's not funny. By that metric, with the word present, it's still not funny. It's just the strong mocking the weak - and no matter how you choose to dress that up, that's not something we should aspire to as human beings. Anyone who thinks that it's ok - I suggest you try replacing term with the n-word, and see if you still think it's ok - if you do, then fine - that's your right. If you don't - then it really wasn't funny in the first place, was it?
What EyeofPolyphemus said
by chrth
Aug 10th, 2008
06:53:14 PM
Don't let No Man screw you around
Harry
by Herb West
Aug 10th, 2008
06:54:04 PM
I can honestly say that none of it was HATE-SPEECH. Somebody is just got an itchy trigger finger over there when it comes to banning people today.
read the Script Girl TB Harry
by kungfuhustler84
Aug 10th, 2008
06:55:51 PM
it's ugly stuff you should probably know about, and it's the same stupid shit every week.
You ought to just do away with Scriptgirl
by fiester
Aug 10th, 2008
07:01:53 PM
Seriously. It's not worth it. She can post her junk on youtube and those who want can see it there.
Kate Winslet made the same type of speech
by SID 8.0
Aug 10th, 2008
07:13:42 PM
on "Extras" first season. She was talking about the best way to win awards. She was playing a nun at the time.
Another simple minded view of freedom of speech
by The Funketeer
Aug 10th, 2008
07:21:51 PM
This isn't a freedom of speech issue. No one is denying Paramount the right to say what they want. Paramount chose to remove the references from the web and if they come out of the movie it will once again be Paramount's choice. Harry, no one is forcing them to do anything. Only the government has the potential power to restrict speech. And really, when you think about it, what you're doing right now is no different than what the "do gooder" groups are doing to Paramount. They have opinions and a right to express them. It's sad that you can get this worked up over a couple of retard jokes being taken out a dumb comedy but Polanski gets a moral pass from the site even though his crimes (and they were actual crimes) were far more heinous.
Is Harry's "Clone Wars" review an example of hate speech?
by fiester
Aug 10th, 2008
07:29:56 PM
Cuz, man, there's a lotta hate in that review. Will he get banned?
I love freedom
by Perceptor
Aug 10th, 2008
07:34:23 PM
Oh, and my new catch-phrase will be....
by fiester
Aug 10th, 2008
07:35:59 PM
"Best cut it out or I'mma go FULL-RETARD on yo' ass!"
I thought the title of this article was sarcasm...
by Feral Aristocrat
Aug 10th, 2008
07:36:19 PM
...and it was going to be Harry's response justifying the pyre of usernames over at SG! As one of the banned, I'll take my medicine, but as a number of us said over there, let's have some clear rules around this place.
I love freedom
by Perceptor
Aug 10th, 2008
07:39:45 PM
There should be a common sense test that every American has to take before they are aloud to enact their freedoms because I guarantee you that "Do Gooders" that like to infringe on everyone elses freedom, not just limited to speech, would fail such tests and allow the rest of the country to move like a well oiled machine. Of course such a test would itself be unconstitutional but hey, if they can enforce their idea of what's okay on others and say it's constitutional then what's the difference.
Perceptor: You'd obviously fail the test.
by chrth
Aug 10th, 2008
07:42:45 PM
I recommend reading EyeofPolyphemus' and The Funketeer's posts.
IT DOESN'T OCCUR TO ANYONE THAT THESE ADVOCATES OF THE DISABLED
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 10th, 2008
07:45:34 PM
could be Conservative and not Liberal? Well, can't it occurred to me either.
THAT
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 10th, 2008
07:47:01 PM
THAT'S "CAN'T SAY IT OCCURRED TO ME"
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 10th, 2008
07:48:17 PM
Fuck me I'm typing in the dark
Capn' Jack finally banned. Good!
by Mavra Chang
Aug 10th, 2008
07:49:05 PM
And a rule list is being formed. About time for both.
WHO WATCHES THE WATCHMEN?
by ChocolateReignWasBanned
Aug 10th, 2008
07:49:43 PM
And by that I mean I wonder who's modding the Script Girl talkback where Pondscum, ChocolateReign, monster2Bpitied, WeinerPenis, NukedMyFridge and VolatileMix were all banned in a period of less than 24 hours? A lot of people over there, people that visit this place frequently think that person has some 'splaining to do...
Moderation be gettin' draconian up in this bitch.
by Mr Spork
Aug 10th, 2008
07:52:12 PM
ARE YOU GUYS WATCHING WOMEN'S GYMNASTICS WITH YOUR PANTS DOWN?
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 10th, 2008
08:16:31 PM
good! fuck these do-gooder assholes
by GLENN_THE_TOOL
Aug 10th, 2008
08:16:39 PM
i hate people who say "I'm all for freedom of speech, BUT..." if you're for free speech, then there is not BUT. and when it comes to comedy and satire, that becomes essential, because comedy is about pushing the envelope and going beyond boundaries.
I hate PC NAZI's!!!
by spectrebeeyatch
Aug 10th, 2008
08:16:52 PM
Fuck these people they don't live in reality. I've never heard of a group more needing to die then people like this. Yes I said it. I hate people who try and curb free speech because it might "hurt feeling". Fuck you I'll hurt your face.
BSB: You're the one using the computer in the dark
by chrth
Aug 10th, 2008
08:18:31 PM
Just saying, buddy.
CHRTH, YACKSTER
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 10th, 2008
08:26:27 PM
I was typing in the dark before cuz we were watching The Bucket List with my in-laws ... and I must say: no one does off-screen-letter-reading than Morgan Freeman. He made me cry ... but nothing lifts my spirits more than women's gymnastics!!
YACK
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 10th, 2008
08:33:42 PM
All I'll say is one of my all-time favorite comedies was Everyone Loves Raymond, and that show never once had to shit on minorities or mentally-disabled for a laugh. So all I'm saying is it takes real talent to pull off the funny without having to demean the disadvantaged, something Ben Stiller and his ilk are obviously incapable of.
Bravo pjvance1973!!!
by antibody
Aug 10th, 2008
08:37:14 PM
First of all, I agree this is not a censorship issue -- it has nothing to do with the government. This film studio has the right to say whatever it wants. And this advocacy group has the to right to say whatever they want. Still I just want to take the occasion to encourage you guys to think beyond yourselves every once in awhile. "Somebody wants to keep me from laughing at somebody less fortunate than me -- boo hoo." Do you really think you're so special that you deserve to laugh at whomever you want -- regardless of how much you're devaluing other human beings??? I have a nine year old son with Down's Syndrome who is a delightful young man. He is also a cool geek-in-training [He considers Ep. 5 the best of the Star Wars films; he thinks the Incredibles is the best Pixar film; Star Trek TNG is his favorite TV show; and he listens to TMBG (both their kids and adult stuff) regularly]. It really sucks that he happens to have been born with an extra chromosome that makes him learn things at a slower pace than a typical person. Therefore it feels like a slap in the face any time I hear the "R-word" used in casual conversation. It's a cruel and hurtful word. The shame of it is that my son's got such a good heart -- he would never even think to use equally hateful words to describe jerks who think its okay to be offensive as long as it's wrapped in "humor".
Chilli?
by Godovhellfire
Aug 10th, 2008
08:52:47 PM
They all had chilli for lunch!
BringingSexyBack
by BadMrWonka
Aug 10th, 2008
08:58:35 PM
and all I'm saying is that Everyone Loves Raymond is not really all that funny. it's palatable to a lot of people, hence its success, but that's not a true measure of success when looking at comedy as an art form. otherwise that piece of trash "I kissed a girl" song would sweep the grammys this year.

to be truly side-splittingly funny, I think you have to push the boundaries a little bit.

this is why The Family Circus has been in syndication forever, but no one really likes it. I, in fact, am offended my it's unfunniness. Raymond I got a chuckle out of at least.

holy shit
by BadMrWonka
Aug 10th, 2008
09:03:30 PM
as a creative writing major, and former writing teacher, that last sentence I wrote offends me deeply. jesus it's ugly!
Don't get me wrong, I love retards
by smackfu
Aug 10th, 2008
09:14:23 PM
But all that 'retard strength' makes them a bit grissley, so it's best to slow marinate them.
Liberals
by Wrath4771
Aug 10th, 2008
09:22:20 PM
That's what I love about Liberals - free speech is good as long as you agree with them and/or are politically correct. You know what? As a Republican I find retards, gays, and cripples funny. Sue me. I think the Liberals should just be happy that the "quota" of "mentally handicaps" was met. Now tell us how drilling off the coasts for 1-3 million barrels of oil a day will do us no good, but suspending 70,000 barells a day in the Strategic Reserve will make everything all better. Then go worship at the Temple of Obama.
BADMRWONKA, YACK
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 10th, 2008
09:28:59 PM
I'm no Puritan as I'm an avid XM Comedy listener, but Raymond struck me as hilarious and I was aware of how it never once used offensive humor. Just an example - I'm sure there are others.

As for Pineapple Express, I'm not interested. I need a long vacation from Seth Rogan. Also, I watched Harold and Kumar / Gitmo yesterday and it was criminally unfunny. Shit, the only show that consistently makes me laugh nowadays is America's Funniest Videos. Am I getting old?

YACK
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 10th, 2008
09:36:17 PM
I can't wait for floor exercises! Nice!
Yack, YES!!
by BadMrWonka
Aug 10th, 2008
09:45:33 PM
that movie is RIDICULOUSLY funny...

fuck, I need to find that, is it on DVD do you think? I haven't seen it in 5 years, but it's really damn good.

QUICK CHANGE - NEVER HEARD OF IT
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 10th, 2008
09:54:19 PM
But it's going in my queue like, NOW. Thanks Yacksta.
Whats the point of all this?
by Series7
Aug 10th, 2008
09:56:25 PM
Who gives a shit if people are offended. People who get offended, offend me.
THERE'S A MALE SWIMMER FROM GREAT BRITAIN NAMED "LIAM TANCOCK"
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 10th, 2008
09:57:21 PM
Now that I find humorous!
Quick Change is guaranteed laughs...
by BadMrWonka
Aug 10th, 2008
10:10:26 PM
I defy anyone who loves comedy to watch it and not laugh their ass off...
SOFA KING WE TODDED
by Mr Spork
Aug 10th, 2008
10:49:55 PM
What happened to the Clone Wars tb?
by the_scream
Aug 10th, 2008
11:25:40 PM
Talking about free speech! Harry's review of Clone Wars has been removed!
yeah where the F is the clone wars TB. did Warners pull it
by THX--1138
Aug 10th, 2008
11:30:53 PM
was gonna be my first post as well...
clone wars tb
by THX--1138
Aug 10th, 2008
11:32:10 PM
guess Harry is out buying the BIG M Falcon... SUCKER
Maybe
by The Brains
Aug 10th, 2008
11:33:24 PM
Ari was yelling at Harry, "No giftbag, Harry! No fuckin' Clone Wars giftbag, Harry!"
Blame the PC crap on...
by SithScorp
Aug 10th, 2008
11:33:38 PM
The liberal BS agenda of the 1990s. I find it ironic, as Harry pointed out, that the people that want to squash expression are the "tolerant" liberals in this country. You can call the President of the US a "retard" on TV, in songs, and in print, but someone cannot use the term in a movie when it isn't even directed at an individual. Regardless of your opinion on W, and you are entitled to it, you cannot honestly sit there and say that this is right.
star wars is officially dead then
by THX--1138
Aug 10th, 2008
11:34:34 PM
until the live TV series
Where is the Clone Wars talkback?
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Aug 10th, 2008
11:35:54 PM
this is now the clone wars TB
by THX--1138
Aug 10th, 2008
11:36:46 PM
move along
So does this mean that Chocolate
by Series7
Aug 10th, 2008
11:38:35 PM
Will be banned from being shown in the states? Since it has an autistic girl who has the ability to learn Kung Fu and kick ass, these people are going to try to say that it will prompt people to teach mentally disabled kids to fight.
What the hell is going on?
by Chief Joseph
Aug 10th, 2008
11:38:38 PM
People getting banned, Clone Wars talkback vanishing...
Did you guys get hacked?
Did the Do-Gooders kill the Clone Wars TB???
by Bill Clay
Aug 10th, 2008
11:39:37 PM
Talk about PC censorship! Who has the juice to get Harry to pull a bad review of Clone Wars?
Harry, what happened to your review?
by the_scream
Aug 10th, 2008
11:40:05 PM
Seriously, if it is a simple technical error that's cool. But if that review magically disappears into the void, you have officially sold out. I have defended your reviews in the past so will be very disappointed if you've pulled it from external pressures.
anyone got the clone wars TB in their cache?
by THX--1138
Aug 10th, 2008
11:40:21 PM
WTF happened to the Clone Wars TB?
by CatVutt
Aug 10th, 2008
11:40:40 PM
Because nobody asked that yet...
I sensed tremors in the Clone Wars TB...
by SpencerTrilby
Aug 10th, 2008
11:40:49 PM
and then nothing.
I went back to Clone Wars node and saw strange...
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Aug 10th, 2008
11:42:16 PM
things, very strange things.
well Hary said Rotta the Huttlet sucked
by THX--1138
Aug 10th, 2008
11:42:27 PM
worst character since jarjar
Hey, has anybody seen the Clone Wars TB?
by CatVutt
Aug 10th, 2008
11:42:28 PM
It just disappeared!
Harry hated a Star Wars for the 1st time.
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Aug 10th, 2008
11:43:24 PM
It was painful to read.
and he didn't go home and play with all his SW toys this time...
by THX--1138
Aug 10th, 2008
11:43:47 PM
Harry just delayed buying the $200 big M Falcon
Something weird is going on.
by CatVutt
Aug 10th, 2008
11:44:00 PM
I could've sworn there was a Clone Wars TB.
Harry said that it was shit
by SpencerTrilby
Aug 10th, 2008
11:44:51 PM
Bad story, terrible score, 'splosions instead of direction. And not one, but TWO Jar-Jar-like characters that'll make the fans puke. After that I stopped reading and started posting. First time in YEARS Headgeek answers to one of my posts, and now it's lost in oblivion. I'm gonna weep.
Yeah
by Series7
Aug 10th, 2008
11:45:28 PM
Harry hated something about some Fe-male Jabba the Hutt. Worse then Jar Jar the Hutt.
embargo
by HEADGEEK
Aug 10th, 2008
11:47:15 PM
which nobody told me about - so as a result I had to not say it sucked ass.
the music score sucked as well, lots of explosions
by THX--1138
Aug 10th, 2008
11:47:36 PM
oh and the director is a hack job
This is the node that was Clone Wars, WTF?
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Aug 10th, 2008
11:47:56 PM
Check out the publication date and weird layout. I think they've been hacked. http://www.aintitcool.com/node /37874
Harry hated Clone Wars
by the_scream
Aug 10th, 2008
11:48:00 PM
Not just a mild dislike but absolutely loathed it. The first time I have seen him post something like this about Star Wars. Don't suppose anybody copied and pasted it (except for you Harry, of course).
mmmm so the same review will be up on Friday 15th?
by THX--1138
Aug 10th, 2008
11:48:29 PM
mmmmmmmmmm
So, will you post it later Harry?
by the_scream
Aug 10th, 2008
11:48:56 PM
Hutt sex
by The Brains
Aug 10th, 2008
11:49:30 PM
Like two slugs going at in the garden? I'm warming to this!
Ahh, I see. Thanks for clearing that up Harry.
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Aug 10th, 2008
11:50:02 PM
I was worried.

About the site.

Not the Clone Wars.

no embargo over at TFH they have a review
by THX--1138
Aug 10th, 2008
11:50:38 PM
so does the Hollywood reporter who also said it sucked
Clone Wars
by JLo
Aug 10th, 2008
11:51:20 PM
maybe George called Harry and bribed him with a $200 Falcon.
Trade Federation Embargo, Harry?
by SpencerTrilby
Aug 10th, 2008
11:51:27 PM
The evil Lucas Empire strikes again!
TFH = TFN and CatVutt NAILED It.. well done
by THX--1138
Aug 10th, 2008
11:51:37 PM
guess u knew that
so Harry how did they replace the 20th Century Fox fanfare
by THX--1138
Aug 10th, 2008
11:55:35 PM
I wrote this marvelous piece on why Yoda is a useless character
by Zeke25:17
Aug 10th, 2008
11:55:55 PM
in the Clone Wars thread...and the whole thing gets yanked. I DIDN'T DO IT, DAMMIT! Anyone wants me to type it again, yer gonna haveta ask. My hands is all cwamped up now.
bad Clone Wars review
by JLo
Aug 10th, 2008
11:57:09 PM
that could cost Lucas a few million for sure especially on AICN. Now what does an embargo mean for a review?
I have the TV Guide CD-Rom for Clone Wars
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Aug 10th, 2008
11:57:28 PM
It doesn't seem too bad, but the music is...weird. Heavy metal guitars wail when the droids fly their on their flying-gun speeder things.

They should've used hand drawn animation like old Disney.

According to Harry's "future" review, I'd guess they should've hired a writer to write a good story with less cutsie crap.

Write it up again Zeke
by the_scream
Aug 10th, 2008
11:57:32 PM
THX--1138 - 20th century logo
by Womb2dooM
Aug 11th, 2008
12:03:45 AM
They didn't. Warners uses it's chirpy tune, completely out of place. It than goes into the Lucas Film which features a radio type montage and than the text on star back ground "A long time ago in a galaxy far far away..." and than BAM shitty Star Wars rip-off music, a montage of useless images and a Starship Troopers like voice over. They fucked up EVERYTHING!
when does the embargo end
by THX--1138
Aug 11th, 2008
12:04:35 AM
Womb2dooM
by THX--1138
Aug 11th, 2008
12:05:56 AM
cheers, I wont rush to see it Friday.
"Satire is what closes Saturday night."
by Larry of Arabia
Aug 11th, 2008
12:07:09 AM
I'm a do gooder liberal and I gotta say pulling that is just so fucking gay. Way to hurt your own cause.
As I said in the other TB
by Womb2dooM
Aug 11th, 2008
12:09:45 AM
Ahsoka is FAR WORSE than the 2 Harry hated. She is painful. Nicknames are her gimmick. Artooey, Stinky, Sky Guy and she even calls Grevious's bodyguards "Stick Tinies"! A pox on her!
the fact that people on this site freely hurl words like...
by beamish13
Aug 11th, 2008
12:10:05 AM
"cripple" and "retard" is proof of why most of you here are not getting laid now, nor will you in the near future.
any pooh gags?
by THX--1138
Aug 11th, 2008
12:10:53 AM
or fart jokes?
And the Right has no sense of humor either
by Larry of Arabia
Aug 11th, 2008
12:12:20 AM
Unless you count O'Rilley saying, "Now, I have a sense of humor..." before he calls some anti-bush satire tasteless and unfunny.
OK scream, here goes:
by Zeke25:17
Aug 11th, 2008
12:12:21 AM
My 10-year-old nephew and I often revisit the subject of Yoda being basically useless whenever we want a good laugh....Here's a creature who's supposed to be at least 900 years old, a Jedi Master, well-versed in the ways of the Force blah blah blah--yet when anyone asks his opinions or advice, they boil down to variations on "The dark side clouds EVERYTHING" and "Impossible to see the future is". Translation: I don't know JACK. Hell, when Obi-Wan comes to his "master" looking for answers as to why a planet seems to be missing (which admittedly would not have taken a genius to figure out in the context of the story), Yoda makes a cute little joke at Kenobi's expense and then asks the roomful of "younglings" to answer the question instead! Nor does he seem to have a good word for anyone: not even Amidala gets a "how you doing, you're looking good" sort of comment; instead, Yoda can't wait to tell her what grave danger she's in, while offering NO advice as to how this impending danger might be stopped or avoided. (And if his "something's fishy" glance directed at Palpatine represents the extent of his insight into the Senator...how, then, are we supposed to believe that this is a wise character, worthy of the title of Master? Old, yes. Pessimistic, yes [at times, Yoda makes C-3PO sound like an optimist]...but when does he ever show ANY sort of wisdom?) And as for his lightsaber skills? Sure, he can hop around like a hyperactive flea and spin like Sonic, but his reach and saber beam are too damn short to even touch Count "Chocula" Dooku; the best he can do is fight him to a draw...kinda like what happens in the next movie with the lightning-throwing, "true" Palpatine. And he doesn't even let the good guys enjoy their brief feeling of victory; instead he throws cold water all over that one with "NOT victory...begun, the Clone War has." Honestly: what good does Yoda do ANYBODY in ANY of the films? Ultimately, he's about as useless as Sir Topham Hatt in the Thomas the Tank Engine stories: some old guy that orders everyone around but does nothing of use himself.
I love how we all think alike
by hopewell1
Aug 11th, 2008
12:16:47 AM
I noticed the talkback removed and thought "Maybe they're talking about it in another recent lively thread" Yup, we're all here. And again I'm totally giving this cartoon a chance despite Harry's clear knee jerk reaction. I hate when reviewers include their wife's reaction only when it conveniently gels with their own to somehow justify their opinion.
THX - no poop or gas....
by Womb2dooM
Aug 11th, 2008
12:16:54 AM
There is far worse stuff. Insulting stuff. Like droids so dumb they can't rememeber target coordinates seconds after they are given. That same droids is trying to observe a battle at the bottom of a cliff face and leans so far over he falls to his death while his commander shouts out "Get back up here!". It's sad how bad the series was allowed to get.
Embargo? Em-Bar-GOOO!?!
by L.H.Puttgrass
Aug 11th, 2008
12:19:11 AM
Umm... How does one embargo a movie?

Has AICN surrounded Warner Bros. studios with an armada of warships?

It's late and I need to get some sleep. So maybe it'll make more sense to me in the morning.

Ooh! Wait! Did you mean boy-cott?! Umm, aww shit, whatever...

IT'S THE LIBERAL AGENDA!!!
by Monkey Butler
Aug 11th, 2008
12:21:06 AM
Do any of you retards even know what liberal means? Fuck political correctness, but just because the word 'political' is there, doesn't mean it's a "left" or "right" policy.
Nicely put Zeke
by the_scream
Aug 11th, 2008
12:22:27 AM
If Yoda was not in the PT, would anything have changed? Dooku would have still gotten away. The Emperor would still have won. You're right. What did he do?
Ironic. He could save others from censorship...
by StarWarsRedux
Aug 11th, 2008
12:23:32 AM
...but not himself!
Liberal with a sense of humor here ...
by BruceVain
Aug 11th, 2008
12:26:34 AM
... to say that people who get offended on behalf of the "defenseless" are the truly insulting ones. (Just like old-school feminists who need to "save" women from their chosen careers as sex workers, because he latter lack the "educational opportunities" to know it's wrong, see?) And neither am I a big fan of genuine members of minority groups who presume to get offended on behalf of ALL members of that group. I once received an indignant email from a dwarf actor chastising me for calling him a midget in a movie review, and "educating" me on what an offensive word it was. Meanwhile, I had just completed an interview with ANOTHER dwarf who was running a wrestling company with the word "midget" in its name, and who willingly referred to himself with that exact term. It seemed the little-people activists had been picketing HIM for holding them back by reinforcing negative stereotypes -- but as he reasoned, how could they consider themselves advocates for the advancement of all his kind, when they were doing their level best to put him out of business? Since then, I've used the term "midget" freely and unreservedly, certain that the far more patronizing "little people" will one day be recognized as the equivalent of "Negro" when it comes to enduring sensitivity. And to bring this rant back to the topic at hand, I haven't yet seen "Tropic Thunder," but this boycott just gets me more pumped to do so. I'm sure nothing in it could possibly be more offensive to the mentally challenged than the entirety of "I Am Sam." And THAT sucker got nominated for an Oscar. Bet your ass no retard had a vote.
"The taxation of trade routes is in dispute..."
by Zeke25:17
Aug 11th, 2008
12:28:17 AM
"...and the embargo on negative movie reviews continues to plague the Alliance. A small band of Separatists plan to separate from the Count Chocula Dooku separatists, mainly because no one knows what to call him: Count, Dooku, Lord Tyrannus, "Ty", Sifodias, "Sy", or Fodi-Wan Kenobi. Meanwhile, Jar-Jar mates with Jabba the Hutt's long lost abandoned half-sister and the end result is a kid who sounds a lot like Florence, the Jeffersons' maid. Blah blah Skywalker blah blah blah Dark Side blah blah blah THE FORCE..." Now there's a title crawl for ya.
did you hear about the chinese couple that split up
by THX--1138
Aug 11th, 2008
12:30:36 AM
she went back to peking. he went back to wank ing
The pull quote
by Wolverine's Dad
Aug 11th, 2008
12:30:53 AM
"All I do (is) stuff my face and fart." -Harry Knowles. I'd put that on a movie poster.
You know what WILL be cool, though? THE FORCE UNLEASHED!
by Zeke25:17
Aug 11th, 2008
12:32:00 AM
Cannot WAIT for that game.
Speaking of free speech why did you pussy out on Clone Wars?
by reflecto
Aug 11th, 2008
12:39:50 AM
We know the review exists, Harry. This is almost as adorable as the time you guys played judge and jury over who was fit to see the Lost season finale spoilers. It's called Ain't It Cool NEWS, not Ain't It Cool That We Can Lord It Over You.
Free Speech Under Attack? Hardly.
by loserguy3000
Aug 11th, 2008
12:44:29 AM
Hey Harry + Guys

This isn't Free Speech under attack, this is Free Speech in ACTION. Stiller and Crew have a right to make the product they want, and the disability groups have the right to a.) protest and b.) utilize their Freedom of Speech to speak out against it. Its brilliant how it works out, and should be applauded.

I'm on the side of Stiller and the film of course (I rarely buy into one-sided arguments from advocacy groups who've yet to actually see the film), but what we have to remember is that by expressing themselves, Stiller and Crew must be ready to defend their own actions. So he played a retard, and people were upset... granted that was probably in the cards. But whether he chooses to defend it or not is completely up to him. What he DOESN'T have to do is justify his work to anyone (save Dreamworks, as its a commercial product). Thank God there is no litmus test for crude humor!

So calm down Harry...this is democracy and the Bill of Rights working out wonderfully and if you ask me, completely authentically.
Clone Wars
by The Brains
Aug 11th, 2008
12:45:35 AM
Moviehole has given it a bad review as well, saying that only 12 year olds and under will like it, it's boring, there's a Drag Queen the Hutt in it etc. Sorry Warners and Lucasfilm- the truth is out there.
Then they introduced Baby Jabba aka Rotta the Huttlet aka Stinky
by THX--1138
Aug 11th, 2008
12:49:42 AM
On the bright side
by The Brains
Aug 11th, 2008
12:49:49 AM
I looked down the aisle and saw Shia was laughing. So he liked it.
IRONY: Harry gives a lecture on free speech, THEN-
by Mike_D
Aug 11th, 2008
12:52:49 AM
take his "Clone Wars" review down after blasting it. Nice.
anybody remember when you dreamed about what the clone wars woul
by THX--1138
Aug 11th, 2008
12:59:05 AM
d really be about
by THX--1138
Aug 11th, 2008
12:59:53 AM
you know when you where a kid
BREAKING THE EMBARGO
by DOGSOUP
Aug 11th, 2008
01:01:47 AM
" Unfortunately, that wood-carved appearance is all-too-fitting considering the less-than-fluid movement of the characters (they all appear to walk like C-3PO) and the lifeless dialogue." ooooooh!!! SNAP Michael Rechtshaffen of the Hollywood Reporter!!!! Way to spit in the EmbargoS FACE!!!! ATTICA! ATTICA! ATTICA!
You know what's nice about enjoying the Prequels?
by StarWarsRedux
Aug 11th, 2008
01:02:04 AM
I'm not looking for "The Clone Wars" or a live-action show to give me what I wanted. I already got it. Everybody else can worry about how all the animation and whatnot does. I might need "The Hobbit" to make up for LOTR, but I don't need "The Clone Wars" to make up for eps. I, II and III.
I'm way late on the Quick Change love
by Xiphos_2
Aug 11th, 2008
01:03:42 AM
Wanted to throw my support behind the love for that little comedy gem. I think its Bill Murrays best work.
Quick Change
by The Brains
Aug 11th, 2008
01:06:42 AM
Yeah, someone once brought up "Quick Change" amongst a group of friends and we were surprised to find that other people had seen it and really enjoyed it.
Liberals are the new conservatives...
by thegreatwhatzit
Aug 11th, 2008
01:12:28 AM
Agree with me or risk ostracization. As for Obama, I actively participated in two fundraisers. Now? Forgetaboutit, this guy's in the Twilight Zone. Vote for Ralph Nader.

by The Brains
Aug 11th, 2008
01:14:54 AM
Would there've been an embargo if it was a good review?
One final thing,,,
by thegreatwhatzit
Aug 11th, 2008
01:15:03 AM
Obama's speech in Germany. "Remember the concentration camps? Neither do I. Let's pretend the whole thing never happened."
HARRYYYYYYY!!!
by onezeroone
Aug 11th, 2008
01:15:56 AM
I thought this was about the missing Clone Wars review. *WILL* we get it on 15th or roundabout that time or not? And talking of embargo, would they have really taken it off if you had loved it?
And, there is a reason why McCain is going to be Prez...
by The Dum Guy
Aug 11th, 2008
01:16:17 AM
And, it will be because of this...
Honestly, I've SEEN The Clone Wars Cartoon
by DOGSOUP
Aug 11th, 2008
01:17:24 AM
The guy who created Dexter's Laboratory did it. It was badass. I don't need to see it again. Unless I want to rewatch the original which would really be fine with me
The Thought Police....
by Thot
Aug 11th, 2008
01:22:49 AM
..already exist in some countries, like Canada, where "hate speech" can land you a fine and maybe even in jail. Truly frightening. Free speech involves the freedom to piss people off, make them uncomfortable and even, gasp!, insulted! Mark my words people, it all started with "hate crimes" laws and will eventually swallow up the freedom of expression.
AMAZING G!
by onezeroone
Aug 11th, 2008
01:25:09 AM
Hellboy animation is there coz harry is try to keep his buddy afloat under the tsunami that is The Dark Knight. Aren't you surprised why he never did a Batman or Joker animation??? The most anticipated movie of the year and only one that delivered so handsomely, and Harry chose to ignore it [not counting reviews here]
What happened to your THE CLONE WARS review?
by warphoenix
Aug 11th, 2008
01:25:44 AM
Hey Harry, what happened to your The Clone Wars review?
AICN HAS OFFICIALLY "JUMPED THE SHARK"
by DARTHpatel
Aug 11th, 2008
01:35:20 AM
I have been a regular reader of this site since 1997. Over the eyars it has been a valuable source and outlet for my movie geek appetite. I must admit the site has been slipping for years. Less and less Harry (which to me is a bd thing) and more and more simple links to other sites and information that could be found elsewhere. This site was once edgy and carried breaking entertainment news. The Clone Wars review harkened back to that era. I was happy to see the review here before any other so called movie site had it. But, low and behold Harry stick his tail between his legs and removes the review. It is this kind of corporate pandering that has removed this website from it's perch of relevance. I hate to admit it, but I frequently visit Joblo, Dark Horizons, and latino review, well before AICN for my breaking movie news. JoBlo is actually wittier at times and unlike this site, the wrtiters there are not afraid to voice their opinions! It was fun while it lasted but like all empires, they eventually decay from within. Once Harry got lazy and stopped writing, this site was already dieing. AICN is the Great Britain of movie news websites. Farewell.
Nothing on the internet ever goes away...
by L.H.Puttgrass
Aug 11th, 2008
01:48:15 AM
http://tinyurl.com/65sch2

For your review.

DARTHpatel!
by Womb2dooM
Aug 11th, 2008
01:52:17 AM
Sooooo, you're breaking up with Aintitcool? Sounds like this was a tough decision. I'm sorry to see you go.

Get over yourself! Harry and Aintitcool.com are not above the law. If Warner Bros. decide to block any reviews of their movies with legal threats that could see the site shut down, Harry has zero power to stop that and must abide. This is not a new concept. Harry admitted in this here TB that he was unaware of an embargo preventing Clone Wars reviews to be published prior to release date and that's why his review was posted and subsequently forced down. The Clone Wars is a property of Warners and they can do whatever they want with it.

Frankly I wish every knee-jerk bitching tool was as easily defeated as you as TalkBacks would have vastly less fat. Tar, tar.

Harry the Hypocrite
by Uncapie
Aug 11th, 2008
01:52:37 AM
"Hate-speech?" You're one to call the kettle black! Your review on "Journey To the Center of the Earth 3-D" especially the juvenile "steaming bowl of dicks" remark(That made you look immature at New Line/Warner's and in the eyes of the cast of the film.)was certainly spiteful in its lowest form. You've let this site go to your head and you've lost your credibility. You turned from a regular guy with good intentions, who loved moves into an egotisical, philistine child who stomps his feet and cries on the carpet if he doesn't get his way. You degenerated this webiste into the lowest form by sabatoging the competition if your "friend's" film is up against it. You have no pure, objective comments. Its hate all the way. Everyone who posts on this site has seen the pattern and knows it by now. You've made a mockery of yourself and damaged your approach to writing by doing this. In the 11 years I wrote for AICN(And never even getting a "thank you"for doing it. I was never paid either.)I've seen it degenerate from a friendly, film fan site into an ugly shill for whatever "you" can get out of the studios. That's one reason why you've lost a lot of good writers over the years and that's why I'll never write for you again. There's plenty of other sites that appreciate an objective view of films. All types of films. I've made a lot of friends on this site. Intelligent people with creative minds and I'm sure that they'll be sucessful in any career that they choose or that they're in. To those that supported me and my work; I thank you from the bottom of my heart. I wish all of you good luck. You can catch my reviews on nukedthefridge.com or any other film related site. By-the-way, "Journey" is still making money and "Hellboy 2" has fallen off the radar. Enjoy your crow, Harry.
Harry ANSWERED why the Clone Wars thing was taken down!
by half vader
Aug 11th, 2008
01:53:58 AM
Fucking pay attention! Whether you agree or not, try reading some other posts beside your own...

P.S. Considering what I just said, I realise this post may be redundant.

"If you let yourself go back to being a kid in 1977 you'll love
by reflecto
Aug 11th, 2008
01:54:16 AM
^^^^^ Harry's gushing, revised review. They're all like that when they suck dick these days, aren't they? "Put yourself back into the wonderful spirit of being a happy child at play, and you'll enjoy this movie..." Shut it.
D. Vader
by DARTHpatel
Aug 11th, 2008
01:54:29 AM
It really does make me sad. I had just graduted college in 1997 and Phantom Menace was 2 years away, and I remember the delite when I found this site. I had just signed up for AOL for the first time. This was the first site (rotten tomatoes was the second) that I bookmarked. I could spend hours reading the talkbacks. The quality has really degraded over the years. I mean remember the Jedi Council articles? What happened to those? There us a Star Wars movie coming out! Anyway, maybe I'm just getting old (33 now). I'm married kids are on the way. But I still think movies excite me, and I just wish the site would be "cool" again.
How is it an "embargo" when other pubs have panned it publicly?
by reflecto
Aug 11th, 2008
01:55:05 AM
Just sayin.
I read Harry's post!
by DARTHpatel
Aug 11th, 2008
01:56:40 AM
In the past that review would have stayed up. That is just a fact!
Seriously...WTF happened to that Clone Wars review?
by Jobacca
Aug 11th, 2008
01:57:06 AM
Did Lucas pitch a bitch fit? Did Harry and Co. cave in the face of WB's lawyers? I thought this was the bad-ass take no prisoners website that posted spoilers and broke embargos like a motherfucker. Guess not...anyway,for those that missed it,Harry says that the Clone Wars movie is silly stupid juvenile shit with a farting baby hutt and another one who appears to be a female ghetto crack whore hutt. It sucks almost as bad as Indy 4. And everyone knows it. And now,back to your regularly scheduled and heavily censored post about free speech!
Shit! Tinyurl doesn't work.
by L.H.Puttgrass
Aug 11th, 2008
01:58:48 AM
Mind the spaces, you know the drill.

http://boards.theforce.net/liv e_action_clone_wars_classics/b 10467/28780874/r28948317/

Again, for your review...

Jesus, People...
by TheRealMoriarty
Aug 11th, 2008
01:59:53 AM
... how many times or ways can it be said? There is an embargo in place. If someone else has published, they can deal with Lucasfilm themselves. Harry, being AN ADULT WHO WORKS IN THE REAL WORLD, has to abide by the embargo, and so he took the review back down. He will repost it when he can. He is not revising it, reflecto, you fucking dunce. He just can't put it up yet.

Not everything is a fucking conspiracy or a scandal, unless you're a bunch of bored fanboys on a Sunday night, I guess. He's answered your question. It's been answered repeatedly now. You want to keep acting like someone wronged you personally? Go ahead, but you sound dumber with each outraged post.

Too bad. I was enjoying handing apologists their asses
by IndustryKiller!
Aug 11th, 2008
01:59:55 AM
It's fun sorting those dumb fuckers out.
No, the review wouldn't have stayed up....
by Womb2dooM
Aug 11th, 2008
02:02:33 AM
What world are you living in DARTHpatel? .... if a studio has a legal document stating that their movie is not allowed to be reviewed publicly until a certain date, than that is that. Why would Harry break the law and put his life work in jeopardy?

And why are you still here? Breaking up should be handled like pulling off a band aid. Nice and quick. Don't look back, move on with your life.

A callout! I've arrived in society!
by reflecto
Aug 11th, 2008
02:04:14 AM
It's all downhill for me from here! It'll be nothing but soulless Bret Easton Ellis-esque social engagements and coke binges from now on.
No, Darth...
by TheRealMoriarty
Aug 11th, 2008
02:05:51 AM
... it would not have stayed up "in the past." Legal issues are legal issues. You do what you can within the confines of legal restrictions. You and Jobacca seem to have selective memories.
Pussies!!
by Jobacca
Aug 11th, 2008
02:07:01 AM
Hey folks-quit posting the urls to the review...they lawyers are obviously a bunch of bored fanboys and they're on the ball tonight. INSTEAD....copy and past the fucking review. IN EVERY SINGLE TALKBACK YOU CAN FIND!!!! And then spread it across the net and onto any SW boards you can find. Make sure everyone knows its the official Harry Knowles AICN review.
The Clone Wars movie looks shitty.
by Mr Spork
Aug 11th, 2008
02:13:31 AM
That's my review.
Selective Memory
by DARTHpatel
Aug 11th, 2008
02:14:14 AM
My memory of the past superior quality of this site is not selective and has been echoed by many a talkbacker over the recent years. As a fan of this site for years I am simply venting my disappointment. This, as I have stated, used to be the "premier" site for for movie news and previews. I believe it still can be if the writers get off their high horse and stop calling talkbackers "dullards", and get back to work writing interesting articles.
"Yea sure Harry, go ahead and post it AFTER the 15th."
by Mike_D
Aug 11th, 2008
02:14:17 AM
haha, fuckin WB.
FYI peeps, Harry blasted "CLONE WARS" big time.
by Mike_D
Aug 11th, 2008
02:15:11 AM
just incased anybody was curious.
The thing is....
by Jobacca
Aug 11th, 2008
02:15:44 AM
We all know the lawyers would not have given a damn if the review had been positive. You guys ever wonder why you rarely see such negative reviews here anymore? Aint it cool? Not one bit...
And Wow...
by TheRealMoriarty
Aug 11th, 2008
02:15:48 AM
... talk about selective memories. Uncapie, I've seen Harry say any number of nice things to and about you over the years, and what you just did above is classless to the extreme.

Let's be honest, since you seem to value honesty, especially the brutal kind. You show up here when you want to pimp something that someone you know worked on so you can score points with them. Period. I believe you enjoy films, but I also believe you have used this site mercilessly over the years.

Should I go find the link for your glowing blowjob of a review for that Katee Sackhoff direct-to-video trash from last year? The one that you tried to peddle as truly great indie SF? Who on that one did you know, because I guarantee it was somebody.

And I'm going to have to assume now that JOURNEY is a personal thing for you, and that you once again are marching to someone else's orders, because you seem to have taken Harry's review as an affront to you, Uncapie. Which, of course, it was not.

But if you think that you going to write for the truly wretched NukeThefridge.com is a threat, then by all means, my friend, go. Have a great life. But next time you decide that you want to use the AICN platform to shill some friend's work, I'll make sure to remind Harry of your infantile rant above, and you can feel free to fucking shove it.

Harry Knowles calls Clone Wars "STAR WARS...awesome work"
by reflecto
Aug 11th, 2008
02:15:55 AM
Oh, the headlines PR can create!
Jobacca...
by TheRealMoriarty
Aug 11th, 2008
02:18:50 AM
... hate to blow a hole in your theory, but I liked THE CLONE WARS, and I'm under the same embargo. Only Lucasfilm and Warner told me ahead of time, so I'll write my review for opening day. A positive one. That I still can't post right now. But, please, tell everyone how that fits with your suspicions.

And by the way... if anyone reposts the embargoed review in talkback, you're gone. End of story. It's not a game. It's not a joke. The material is not to be published on the site until the right date, and you're not going to cause us legal troubles just because you have sand in your pussy over an embargo date.

I will say that anyone pimping Journey over Hellboy 2 is a loon
by reflecto
Aug 11th, 2008
02:19:18 AM
Sorry, Uncapie.
See DARTHpatel, Uncapie has shown...
by Womb2dooM
Aug 11th, 2008
02:20:20 AM
... how NOT to break up with a website. Don't hang around and get or bitter. You'll make a desperate fool of yourself. Leave now while your dignity is only bruised and not torn to shreds.
Somebody check the barn...
by Jobacca
Aug 11th, 2008
02:22:03 AM
Cause its burning down and all the horses have already left. Maybe they were clone horses....
Mori this might piss you off, but I gotta ask
by IndustryKiller!
Aug 11th, 2008
02:25:00 AM
Does the positive Clone Wars review have anything to do with a kids enjoyment of it? Because I gotta say i don't think that argument applies to this one. Often it's a no brainer what is going to entertain a child, but the difference between what is good and what isn't should be held above those standards.
I gotta agree, Uncapie you sound kinda nuts
by IndustryKiller!
Aug 11th, 2008
02:27:15 AM
I have had myriad problems with Harry's reviews but I don't know if I've ever felt he had been payed off. i think the guy just has some shit taste and REALLY low standards. So feel free to get on his case about that, that's fair game.
Industry...
by TheRealMoriarty
Aug 11th, 2008
02:29:55 AM
... won't piss me off at all. I think THE CLONE WARS is imperfect, certainly, but then again, I think pretty much everything STAR WARS related is imperfect. I really only adore two films. Everything else, I dig the iconography, and some of the action, and ideas in it, and I'm okay with that. STAR WARS has not held a sacred place in my love of film for a long time now. I think CLONE WARS is a fun little adventure movie, like a Rankin-Bass take on things. Yes, I think it skews younger than the features, but not by much. I can't say much more than that without getting into the review, but I think it will play more to prequel fans than OT fans, and I suspect that's who it was made for.
Robots in humans or
by The Brains
Aug 11th, 2008
02:31:55 AM
humans in robots? I confused!
Only liberals are PC?????
by Dingbatty
Aug 11th, 2008
02:34:35 AM
So, conservatives won't get up in arms if Jesus were lampooned by a comedy such as this? Or say, If I write something like, "Jesus fucked a goat and wiped his dick with the American flag?
Nonsense...
by TheRealMoriarty
Aug 11th, 2008
02:35:17 AM
... I've lost both friends and jobs because I've always spoken my mind, D.Vader, and just because you want to insult me, that doesn't change the 12 years I've put my honest opinion forth time and time again. You may not always agree with my taste, but it's been my honest taste and opinion. Every. Single. Time. Good and bad.
D. Vader
by DARTHpatel
Aug 11th, 2008
02:36:41 AM
Well said. I think you capture in words what we all felt about this site and why we have been so loyal. That "magic" is hard to describe. But, when you have Moriarty acting like a mad parent and threatening to throw people off the talkback you know the "magic" is gone. It is also funny that we are talking about the embargo's and crap like that when that was the exact type of political crap that killed Star Wars (trade federation embargo.....). This site is truly mirroring that franchise in its fall to the darkside.
link to clone wars review
by RokurGepta
Aug 11th, 2008
02:36:52 AM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.c om/hr/film/reviews/article_dis play.jsp?&&rid=11497
You do realize you just damned it with faint praise?
by reflecto
Aug 11th, 2008
02:37:00 AM
"Prequel fans?" I liked aspects of the prequels here and there, but singling out some exclusive group of "prequel fans" and setting up a false contrast between them and "original trilogy fans" is dodgy at best. Unless of course by "exclusively prequel fans" you mean children from the ages of 2 to 11. Or unless some desperate, flop sweat drenched subset of adult fans who can't handle the fact that George Lucas does not poop platinum has cropped up without my noticing. As for AICN's own bias, I won't belabor that other than to say HATCHET.
Moriarty
by Xiphos_2
Aug 11th, 2008
02:45:30 AM
You are on fire tonight man. Keep it up, it's vastly entertaining. Props on the the post time stamped 1:59:53 AM. That one was was insightful.
Mori I forgot
by Xiphos_2
Aug 11th, 2008
02:46:40 AM
Nice reply to Uncapies post.
Yeah Mori
by The Brains
Aug 11th, 2008
02:55:32 AM
I think I'm falling in love with you. After Shia.
Geez, will you people stop your shouting and go to bed!!
by L.H.Puttgrass
Aug 11th, 2008
02:56:36 AM
Technically, you're all off topic anyway. I was too. This TB is about the disappearance of Simple Jack from the internet, not Harry's review.

Besides, going on and on about it here is just pissing in the wind, taking up space on a server, and possibly getting yourself banned if you post the review here.

You guys should be savvy enough to find something on the net if you really want to find it.

Hint: They call it... googal or sometimes google. Try it out.

Where's
by The Brains
Aug 11th, 2008
03:02:52 AM
Arnie?

You can't find me!

Back on the "retard" thing though
by Vern
Aug 11th, 2008
03:04:08 AM
As I've mentioned before I kind of struggle with the word "retarded" because one time I got a really thoughtful letter from a reader who worked with retarded children and he told me in a non-pushy sort of way that he thought me calling people retards or calling movies retarded was not fair to these kids. And I think he was right. But on the other hand there is no word that quite works as well sometimes. So that's why it's a struggle.

Anyway what I'm saying is I can understand why they would be up in arms about some of these things. But in the case of this movie, they are COMPLETELY WRONG. If anything they should be praising this movie because it is very brutally and accurately satirizing the way Hollywood exploits disabilities. I can't imagine whoever is doing the criticizing has seen the movie or heard it described what it's about because it is just not even close to legitimate to criticize it on these grounds. As Harry said it has nothing to do with people with disabilities. If anyone should be mad it should be people like Tom Hanks and Sean Penn who have played the type of roles it's making fun of.

As for the other controversy going on above, I did not see JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH because it looked... well, this is one of those cases where it's too bad I can't use "retarded." So my vote is with HELLBOY 2. Even though it's a mixed bag I'd rather see that again than see Brendan Fraser in 3-D.

I'd post my opinion but i don't want to get BANNED!!!
by Leafy McPlantsalot
Aug 11th, 2008
03:07:16 AM
...so all i will say is that everything on this site is great and movies are neat.
Brendan Fraser is an ass
by The Brains
Aug 11th, 2008
03:09:21 AM
I think being in the audience with him while he shouts out comments during his own movie is my idea of torture.
Sorry
by The Brains
Aug 11th, 2008
03:10:17 AM
Frasier. Fraiser. Fraisier.
Ahh yes, THE google.
by L.H.Puttgrass
Aug 11th, 2008
03:10:20 AM
The Wal*Mart of search engines.
Dr. Vader
by Vern
Aug 11th, 2008
03:13:33 AM
I don't know the specifics of this one but the idea of an embargo I think is that they invite you to their free early critic's screening, and even though you haven't signed a contract by going you agree that if they say you can't review it before a certain date then you can't review it. No, legally they couldn't do shit, but for Harry (who I happen to know runs a movie related web sight) it could cause problems to be on the shit list of Warner Brothers or whoever. Starting with not being invited to the next screening, and I'm sure they would find other ways to get their revenge of the sith on him.

I'm not into playing that game, but I guess that's why I pay money to see the movies and then don't get paid to review them. Harry makes his living that way so he has to play by their rules. Plus, he did post the review briefly so that Dave Poland dude will probaly whine about it on his blog anyway.

Is everyone done yellin'?
by L.H.Puttgrass
Aug 11th, 2008
03:14:32 AM
I have to put the dog out an' he won't shit if there's a ruckus goin' on.
L.H.Puttgrass
by Xiphos_2
Aug 11th, 2008
03:14:51 AM
Some of us have already been to bed and its now morning where we're at just pointing that one out. Although a nap does sound nice. Maybe after elevensies.
True Story
by DOGSOUP
Aug 11th, 2008
03:18:56 AM
I was seeing Iron Man for the first time earlier this summer. I noticed during the previews a few seats down there was a group of mentally challenged individuals watching intently at the Rambo DVD box set release (to which one guy said "OOOH MAN!! THATS MINE!!"). They laughed through the Zohan preview but when The Love Guru trailer came on the whole group was stone faced silent the whole time. When it was over, the Rambo loving guy turned to his friends and said "That looks Retarded."
Xiphos
by L.H.Puttgrass
Aug 11th, 2008
03:20:20 AM
Sorry, I keep forgetting that this internet thingy is world-wide.

Kinda gives me a chill.

Hey! The dog shit. Good boy.

DOGSOUP
by The Brains
Aug 11th, 2008
03:22:59 AM
That's awesome!
Now I want to see Tropic Thunder.
by kirttrik
Aug 11th, 2008
03:25:51 AM
I think you can obviously be verbally abusive on this site and not get banned. I think it is highly unlikely CLone Wars will measure anything near the Tartakovsky Clone Wars. And it was a huge mistake to not have him lead the project. Yeah, it looks terrible, and it's pointless. Why continue with the prequel series that has been generally disliked by the majority of loyal fans. I just saw Rambo and have decided Stallone is a better film maker than Lucas, far better. I never thought I would of ever write that, ten years ago if you told me I'd be posting that comment for public viewing I'd say your crazy. Anyone who is excited about the machinima garbage that has become THE CLONE WARS needs, what alcoholics call, a moment of clarity.
no! NO! NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
by Leafy McPlantsalot
Aug 11th, 2008
03:32:42 AM
.....everything on this site is really great!!! reaaalllllyyyyyy ffffuuuccckkkkkiiiiinnnnnggggg gg gggggrrrrreeeeeeeaaaaaaaaatttt ttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!..... ...
wow,
by theBigWasted
Aug 11th, 2008
03:35:03 AM
this is probably the most interesting talkback i've seen in awhile. mori is TOTALLY STEAMED! and although mori is BY FAR my favorite reviewer (you're second vern), i cannot for the life of me imagine that CLONE WARS is worth a shit. i mean, really. it is beyond comprehension to me that anyone can defend those prequels or any of the the wretched shite that's come from the STAR WARS universe from TPM to ROTS and since. the only reason anyone is so desperate to love these crap animated movies is because of the intense letdown that was the prequels. jeez, you have these iconic figures as kids and lucas has fallen hard lately, the prequels, indy 4, he's lost it and we're left to suffer what's becoming an ever tainted legacy by one of our formerly beloved filmmakers. wait, i'm on a rant. i'll stop : )
as far as the legal trouble is concerned...
by theBigWasted
Aug 11th, 2008
03:40:40 AM
i doubt the site would be in danger at all. however, as was mentioned by vern above, when you're a guy like harry, it's probably not worth it to post a neg review of CLONE WARS and risk repercussion by the studios. i mean, we all have jobs, come here for free, post for free and read sometimes interesting reviews for free. and no matter how uninsightful and silly harry's reviews can be, he's the reason this site exists at all. if it gets shut down or becomes less interesting because content becomes restricted or less available, soon there won't even be a place for us to bitch and whine about the oh-so-important tragedy of a film like CLONE WARS sucking. plus, where else are you going to find such an outdated talkback system? i mean, shit, this thing's a relic. you get a little 90's history every time you visit...see?
Good Lord
by The Curious Dr Humpp
Aug 11th, 2008
03:42:10 AM
So Harry voices his opinion about something he has a considerable degree of passion for and all of a sudden he's a hypocrite and a bastard for doing so? Get off those high horses people. Who the f*ck ever said that AICN was / is an objective movie site? If I'm not mistaken, this is still Harry's site. So if he wants to stuff it with pictures of him taking a crap on Brendan Frasier's face or use it as a platform for blatant nepotism, he can bloody well do as he pleases. We're all just visitors. And we can choose not to visit the site if we don't like what's on it. As for Freedom of Speech: I'm afraid a lot of people still don't 'get it'. Freedom of Speech (or better yet: Freedom of Thought) can ONLY work as an absolute. You either have it, or you don't. It's that simple. There's no such thing as 'a little bit of Free Speech'. Because how do you limit it? And by whose standards? How do you define 'offensive'? Dutch comedian Hans Teeuwen recently said that what some people consider offensive, is sometimes nothing more than a truth they just don't want to hear. Couldn't agree more. Freedom of Thought is an inalienable right that defines us as civilized human beings. The fact that certain people within any given society are going to feel 'offended' by the opinion of others doesn't change anything about that. Nobody ever said that living with freedom was going to be easy. Or come cheap. Mark my words, this PC-bullcrap is going to get worse before it gets better. This whole TROPIC THUNDER 'retard'-issue is just another example of the dangerous road we're on. Here in Holland, where I live, satirical cartoonists get ARRESTED (yes, by the government) for publishing 'offensive' cartoons. So-called offensive weblogs are under strict government watch and get taken down when they publish opinions (yes, OPINIONS) that some people might consider offensive. This is what Freedom means in 2008. Until we all grow some thick skin, it's not going to get better.
I want to take a crap on Curious Dr. Hump's face
by Leafy McPlantsalot
Aug 11th, 2008
03:45:00 AM
OOOHHHH BBBUUUURRRRRNNNNNNNN
Why not say so Mori?
by the_scream
Aug 11th, 2008
03:46:38 AM
Harry basically muttered the word embargo and then left the thread. Why not post something on the site: apologies but we need to take the Clone Wars review down but it will return in a few weeks...blah blah blah. The fact it just vanished made everyone skeptical. So, do you seriously blame everyone for their reaction?
Still up
by Dapper Swindler
Aug 11th, 2008
03:46:47 AM
So... even though I didn't read the whole article, I don't see what the problem is. Because of free speech, you can put things in a movie which may be offensive to some people. But also because of free speech, you can whine about how it offends you. So as long as the do-gooders aren't threatening with legal action then all is well. Unless they are threatening with legal action. Like I said, didn't read the article.
Well said, Dr. Humpp.
by L.H.Puttgrass
Aug 11th, 2008
03:49:19 AM
You keep on being curious.
Hey, Leafy!
by L.H.Puttgrass
Aug 11th, 2008
03:52:44 AM
Plants don't shit.
maybe not the kind you hang out with
by Leafy McPlantsalot
Aug 11th, 2008
03:55:55 AM
but trust me, three cups of coffee later and some photosynthesis...
C'Mon guys Clone Wars was not a battle worth fighting
by IndustryKiller!
Aug 11th, 2008
04:14:10 AM
If there is a film to get in legal trouble over, Clone Wars is not that film. Are you really gonna get pissed over this one?
I feel bad for John Edwards
by Leafy McPlantsalot
Aug 11th, 2008
04:34:40 AM
no wait, scratch that, I feel bad for myself... for not being able to believe that their are any decent human beings in politics left in the world.
Has AICN "Jumped the Shark?"
by DARTHpatel
Aug 11th, 2008
04:35:27 AM
I'm still up so let me revive my original point. Now everyone please discuss.....
you mean Nuked the Fridge?
by Leafy McPlantsalot
Aug 11th, 2008
04:37:57 AM
i'm keeping weird hours these days...
Still up
by Dapper Swindler
Aug 11th, 2008
04:57:31 AM
Jacked up on red bull and trying desperately to finish some work. Feel free to bring forth any topic for discussion.
back to the point
by The Sliver
Aug 11th, 2008
05:02:18 AM
If this idea of "hate-speech" catches on, watch out. Censorship of movies is just the beginning. In ten years, maybe less, people will be going to prison for "hate-speech". Website owners, filmmakers and anybody else. And of course, hate speech can be anything the government decides they want it to be. Anti-black, anti-white, anti-gay, anti-straight, anti-republican, anti-democrat, anti-Christian, anti-Muslim, anti-scientology, anti-anything. Whatever they (whoever is in power) decide. It's already been happening in Canada for a while now. Google "Bill C-250" or "hate speech in canada" or "canada censorship". Do some research and start preparing for a bleak future. Sounds like a good idea for a new movie. Any brave filmmakers out there?
anti-hockey sticks
by Leafy McPlantsalot
Aug 11th, 2008
05:05:28 AM
and bacon eh?
forgot this link
by The Sliver
Aug 11th, 2008
05:10:26 AM
Interesting article: "The Noxious Fruits of Hate Speech Laws" http://www.salon.com/opinion/g reenwald/2008/01/13/hate_speec h_laws/
Dear Uncapie
by MetiphisLabs
Aug 11th, 2008
05:12:47 AM
No one will miss you. I will continue to come here and listen to what Harry and Moriarty (who I agree with more usually) have to say. In fact I don't clearly remember anything you've written, and I've been here since 97... weird I must have subconsciously filtered your bullshit, huh?
Zoidberg
by The Curious Dr Humpp
Aug 11th, 2008
05:13:18 AM
At what point was I 'bitching at you Yanks'? I'm talking about Freedom of Speech in general. As for the clogs: shoesize and address please and two of Holland's finest wooden shoes are on their way.
aack, bad link
by The Sliver
Aug 11th, 2008
05:13:46 AM
just google the name of the article. Sorry. It's worth it.
Great!
by Jay Jay
Aug 11th, 2008
05:18:26 AM
Retards defending retards! Can nobody take a fucking joke any more?
i can take a joke
by Leafy McPlantsalot
Aug 11th, 2008
05:21:19 AM
I'm just running out of places to put them so I'd prefer cash next time.
Thanks, D. Vader
by The Sliver
Aug 11th, 2008
05:26:32 AM
Should have seen that myself. Guess I went full retar(censored). By the way it's "The Sliver" not Silver. Did you check out the article? There's video, too.
"No, legally they couldn't do shit"
by chrth
Aug 11th, 2008
05:46:00 AM
Actually, as long as it will be fulfilled within a year's time (and since the movie is out within a year), an oral contract is considered binding for legal purposes, so legally they could do shit.
FULL-ON MELTDOWN LAST NIGHT!!!!
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 11th, 2008
06:08:46 AM
Embargo, Uncapie, wingnuts in defense of their right to slam retards ... a smorgasbord of craziness! I regret sleeping!!!!!
What's next?
by stvnhthr
Aug 11th, 2008
06:28:36 AM
Things are getting ridiculous. Remember when the pro-gay groups started targeting anyone who did not agree with their lifestyle as using hate speech? Thank God for the freedom of speech.
WOW!
by codymr
Aug 11th, 2008
06:30:37 AM
It's usually the right wing that gets their balls in a knot over the stuff Hollywood puts out... Now the left too? Isn't comedy by its very nature offensive? Kinda thought that was the point?! whether it's self mockery or pointing out the shortcomings in others, it's all good.
Remember that Johnny Knoxville flick
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Aug 11th, 2008
06:31:07 AM
what was it called..The Ringer or something like that? It actually had the blessing of the Special Olmpics. I've never seen it, but I know the plot. Maybe I should watch it one of these days.
Ever see Mr. Woodcock
by Leafy McPlantsalot
Aug 11th, 2008
06:34:26 AM
that movie was anti-gym teachers... and anti funny movies
JEWEL MARRIES RODEO STAR IN BAHAMAS
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 11th, 2008
06:35:55 AM
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Pop singer Jewel eloped with her rodeo-star boyfriend in the Bahamas on Thursday, People magazine reported. The 34-year-old singer married Ty Murray, 38, during a private ceremony, the magazine said, quoting Jewel's publicist.
CEASE-FIRE PROPOSED AS RUSSIA BOMBS GEORGIA
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 11th, 2008
06:38:02 AM
Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili said he signed a cease-fire proposal today that will be taken to Moscow. "We are trying to stop this as soon as possible," Saakashvili said in a conference call with Western reporters. He then abruptly ended the call saying Russian warplanes were flying over the presidential palace.
I'm anti-People magazine
by The Sliver
Aug 11th, 2008
06:41:11 AM
and anti-rodeo
American people!
by Billy The Fish
Aug 11th, 2008
06:41:55 AM
...Welcome to your taste of life in Britain, where no-one is allowed to say anything disrespectful about anyone at all, unless of course they're a white hererosexual Christian male in full-time enployment.

Curiously, over here, it's never the 'minorities' themselves making a fuss, only the 'liberal' middle-class white do-gooders; all Left wing and right-on. I bet you've got them over there, too. If not, I'm betting you soon will!

So let me get this straight
by The Brains
Aug 11th, 2008
06:42:52 AM
There was a trade embargo on Jabba the Hutt, whose retarded crossdressing son was kidnapped by a disgruntled former employee who escaped Germany disguised as a circus clown? And Harry was given diplomatic immunity by the Dutch? Is that right?

This isn't the future my mother warned me about.

Fucking Retards who hate on 'Do-Goodeers'
by quantize
Aug 11th, 2008
06:44:05 AM
Aint nothing wrong with DOING-GOOD in ITSELF... ..if they're *misguided*, then say THAT, otherwise all that neocon psychotic language does it say its 'OK' to lambast anyone who is trying to DO SOME FUCKING GOOD. Harry you first class dimwit, stick to all the cock and cum alliteration in your shitty reviews and stay right out of politics like most of the redneck one-eyed morons in these talkbacks should.
Billy the fish is right!
by Leafy McPlantsalot
Aug 11th, 2008
06:44:41 AM
I visited Britain last year, and I said anything disrespectful about anyone at all. I am a white hererosexual Christian male with part-time employment. And they killed my whole family.
AICN STAFF
by C A Iversen
Aug 11th, 2008
06:44:56 AM
Please stop fearing the reaction of the sites assholes and ignore them! How about paying some attention to some of the better dudes in the talkbacks, however few of them there are. I hardly ever post on anything on this site as it's full of angry idiots most of the time. Probably because a good post gets lost. Very lost. I'm not saying you guys never talk to the normal talkbackers, but they are the minority. Could this be why your talkback is as it is? Rewarding crap? Just my 2c. Oh yeah, I'm now going to Tropic Thunder on opening night and maybe twice more than I would've gone, unless these PC dickwads shut up. Who else is going to see it more than once to spite these so-called "do-gooders"?
That's ri-damn-diculous.
by rbatty024
Aug 11th, 2008
06:51:40 AM
Some people need to get a sense of humor. Although, remember, it was the conservatives who attacked films like Dogma and The Passion of the Christ for their religious message. Then they attacked that made for TV biopic because it hurt the legacy of their patron saint Ronald Reagan. Liberals generally keep their head about this sort of stuff. Of course, there are loonies on both ends. Just more on the conservative end.

I will also note that technically this has nothing to do with the First Amendment. They're not advocating government intervention, they're just trying to get the studio to change its mind. Granted, it's still ridiculous, but not quite as bad as the article makes it out to be.

I'm paying attention to you C A Iverson
by Leafy McPlantsalot
Aug 11th, 2008
06:52:16 AM
You want me to rub your belly? just asking?
To quote Salman Rushdie
by Screwhead
Aug 11th, 2008
06:52:43 AM
You can choose to live in a polite society or a free society, but you can't have both.
Jesus.
by CatVutt
Aug 11th, 2008
06:57:56 AM
Wish I hadn't gone to bed. This TB turned out pretty funny.
Let's Get Rid of All References in the Mentally Handicapped
by kevinwillis.net
Aug 11th, 2008
06:58:00 AM
And pretend they don't exist. We should never refer to them in movies, literature, music or television. Because it might be offensive, and I'm sure the mentally handicapped want to be seen too special to reference, or to be included in popular media, such as parodies. Forget the mentally challenged! Ignore them completely.

What a sensitive, caring idea.
More Loonies on the Conservative End
by kevinwillis.net
Aug 11th, 2008
07:01:34 AM
I call bullshit on that. There are plenty of loonies on both ends, and, frankly, I've had to deal with more on the loony left. So, from my perspective, it seems like there's a lot more politically correct loony lefites out there. However, I understand that mileage will vary. So I suspect it isn't, in fact, tons more loons on the left, and is probably more 50/50.

But I went to art school. And the lefties there taught me all about intolerance. The feminazis boycotted art history class when it covered 18th century nudes because it was about form and line, and not about the evil oppressive mail patriarchy that exploited the women for their nakedness. Sheesh.
I was offended by Daniel Day-Lewis in My Left Foot.
by Knuckleduster
Aug 11th, 2008
07:05:18 AM
Nah. Well done, Dreamworks/Paramount, for not touching a frame of that movie. Retards are funny and always will be. Why else would the Americans vote for one as President?
Make no mistake
by Die_Hardest
Aug 11th, 2008
07:13:40 AM
When someone tries to take away your right to say "retard" they're really trying to take away your right to say "the government is retarded" and that is the definition of oppression. Given recent developments on this site as well, it is prudent to say that the same applies to aicn staffers. I can understand limitations on hate speech in this site, but I certainly would hope one could not be banned for saying Harry/Moriarty/Quint is retarded. That would certainly be hypocrisy, which is, retarded.
Leafy McPlantsalot
by C A Iversen
Aug 11th, 2008
07:14:14 AM
Yeah, I was really talking about my post. I thought that as soon as I pushed the post button, "Someone will think I'm rating myself as a talkbacker", LOL. Oh yeah, I also thought, "If anyone ever comments on my name, they'll spell it wrong, due to a US b-baller". If I have to say this, I rated my last post a C and this one a D-. That make you feel better? :)
Oh I Forgot!!!
by C A Iversen
Aug 11th, 2008
07:15:32 AM
Please rub my belly. I've had nacho's recently. It'll help me move things through....
Harry, you are retarded
by Drunken Rage
Aug 11th, 2008
07:17:08 AM
"the very powerful families behind this movement are amongst the biggest and most powerful Liberal families that purport to support free speech" What the fuck are you talking about?
Can I still use the word 'tard'?
by ChiefRoberts
Aug 11th, 2008
07:19:10 AM
We'll all be taking it up the arse from the PC brigade soon enough.....................if we let them!
Done and Done
by Leafy McPlantsalot
Aug 11th, 2008
07:19:32 AM
it's what i do
Liberals are just as bad as conservatives
by Cobbio
Aug 11th, 2008
07:20:28 AM
Always have been.
When we say "Retarded" it means really great...
by Napolean Solo
Aug 11th, 2008
07:22:06 AM
Street culture always flips the original meaning of words.

Weird that Tropic Thunder would get chastised for its use of that word, but in the same film you have a white guy coloring his face and black folk (including me) cannot wait to see it.

Oh knuckleduster, you're so right about the president. lol
AS SOMEONE WHO'S LITTLE BROTHER HAS AUTISM
by Broseph
Aug 11th, 2008
07:23:41 AM
I think it's out right stupid to go after this film.there's a difference between parody which is filled with truth and down right maliciousness like Michael Savage's recent bashing of children and parents of autistic children.when i heard tom cruise was playing a hollywood mogul in this film i'm sure loosely based on Sumner M. Redstone, i thought this will finaly give us average movie viewer what holllywood is really like.i'm sure many big name actors have been specificaly told take on the role of a retard or cripple for that oscar gold.the fact that's being parodied and i have no doubt it's gonna be fucking hilarious because it's shrouded in truth.as we all know LIFE SUCKS at time we all have different things in life that cause us pain or we take personal.but it's our ability to find humor in these things that get's us thru. and as for harry's or anybody elses movie reveiws they do not sway whether or not i will see a film.for me i see a trailer or read a description and decide whether i will invest my time in the film
Free Speech has been under attack since 1791
by GodMars
Aug 11th, 2008
07:34:21 AM
Paramount and Dreamworks aren't paying attention to these people, why is this website?
Kevinwillis, I stand by my statement.
by rbatty024
Aug 11th, 2008
07:34:53 AM
Granted it's anecdotal evidence so take what you will from it, but if you're just looking at movie boycotts it is my experience that conservatives are worse then liberals.

Your ultra-feminist story is pretty damn funny. If those women wanted to denounce 18th century art they should have written a paper about it or at least taken part in a class discussion. The marketplace of ideas and all that. In that case a boycott does nothing. People like that give feminists a bad name. I've known plenty of feminists who are perfectly reasonable but often its about the noise rather than the number.

I would also like to add to the list the recent Kathy Griffin scandal where she told Jesus to "suck it."

"More Loonies on the Conservative End"?
by chrth
Aug 11th, 2008
07:41:52 AM
Are you kidding? Have you been to the DU?
Do-gooders of that variety suck
by Abominable Snowcone
Aug 11th, 2008
07:52:11 AM
Political correctness sucks. If they'd take a step back and think about it, Stiller is doing a send-up of other films where actors portray characters with mental disabilities (Regarding Henry, Sling Blade, Forrest Gump, etc.). He's not trying to make fun of retards, he's mocking people who play retards. Although I'm sure his portrayal is probably funny (I haven't seen it). These people would get more positive things done if they focused their attention elsewhere.
And Mori, why don't you calm down, too?
by Drunken Rage
Aug 11th, 2008
07:54:08 AM
You have so much loathing for the TBers, are so fucking condescending toward your readers. And why are your panties in such a bunch re: uncapie's article: "But next time you decide that you want to use the AICN platform to shill some friend's work, I'll make sure to remind Harry of your infantile rant above, and you can feel free to fucking shove it." Waah! Waah! I'm gonna tell on you! Waah!
Liberals DO NOT support free speech.
by W3bzpinn3r
Aug 11th, 2008
07:56:28 AM
Liberals are fascists who demand people only say things they deem correct. You can't question them. You can't question their ideas. If you do, they mount protests against you. Liberals have been attacking conservative talk radio for decades. Welcome to the real world, hollywood. It's not all fun and games.
Oh, and Michael Savage did NOT bash autism.
by W3bzpinn3r
Aug 11th, 2008
08:00:04 AM
He bashed the doctors who over prescribe autism. Many doctors and therapists are quick to label kids autistic. He is against that, because that makes things more difficult to get the REALLY autistic kids help, when services are being wasted on brats that just need a good spanking.
Up till a cpuple of years ago...
by emeraldboy
Aug 11th, 2008
08:01:12 AM
studios would do press screenings within 10 days of a film opening. Now its three. or not at all. The reason for this is that studios hate print journalism with a passion. this is a new phenomena. in the paast if a film was an embarrasment the studios would cancel press screenings forcing critics to see the movie with mere mortals ie the paying and it didnt stop a film getting an absolute mauling. With indy 4 all of the press plaudits were put on to tv ads. that didnt stop some people here myself included kicking the shite out of the film. The film made money but it was killed financially by The Dark knight. Which looks like bing the biggest grossing sequel of all time. By the end of the year which will include DVD sales. Batman TDK will be the first billion dollar comic book film. This film is critic proof, audiences and crtics love it. There are so many films that I have missed you wouldnt believe. I have a learning Difficulty and I think the ban given to life of brian in Ireland is outrageous. anyone who lived in the Uk during the 1990s will remember the nonsense spouted by the great Christopher Tookey, who hated Cronenberg's crash so much that he called for boycott of all sony products. load of bollocks.
The thought police are coming...The thought police are coming...
by jimbubble
Aug 11th, 2008
08:07:13 AM
Only this time they have motorised wheel chairs. Liberals...now there`s a bunch of hypocritical cock munchers!
W3bzpinn3r
by Broseph
Aug 11th, 2008
08:14:41 AM
“ Now, the illness du jour is autism. You know what autism is? I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is. What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, "Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot."
What the fuck happened to AICN over the weekend?
by Lost Jarv
Aug 11th, 2008
08:23:09 AM
seriously, mass bannings, tantrums fron writers (Uncapie now joins Mirajeff), reviews up and down.

Fucking weird.

What America Are You Living In, ' Fireproof ' ?
by PTSDPete
Aug 11th, 2008
08:26:13 AM
The extreme-Right would impede on your privacy, disregard your rights, break your laws, steal your money, lie to your face, imperil your safety, degrade your health, pollute your air supply, downgrade your schools, and drive you into poverty so THEY could retrofit society in THEIR TERMS. And they HAVE. In fact, they just DID. And they are currently building their survivalist camps and churches - so they can have their refuge while WIPING THE ' NON-BELIEVERS ' OFF THE FACE OFF THE EARTH WHEN THEIR PHONY ' HOLY WAR ' COMES ( which apparently has just began ) Didn't they make you all invade Iraq lately ? For all intents and purposes, THAT crusader-jihadist behavior hardly shows them wanting to be ' left alone '. It doesn't even look like they're gonna go away, either. Fuck off with your self-aggrandizing paranoia and look at the reality, loser.
Pissed at all the ignorance in these parts :
by PTSDPete
Aug 11th, 2008
08:29:34 AM
regarding liberals.....
by emeraldboy
Aug 11th, 2008
08:30:05 AM
I see and hear the spread of liberalism every day. I am fully convinced that these people want us to return to the stone age. Last year we had an election. Which returned Fianna fail for its third term. So that is 18 out of twenty years they have been in power. The govt now consists of Independents(who made secret pacts with bertie), Pds and the greens.

When going into govt with fianna fail, the greens were told let us look after the economy. What the greens did was devious. The demanded and got the inclusion of carbon tax in the budget. for things like SUVS and yes we do have them here. All homes being built in the future will have to have a carbon guide regulator to see how carbon neutral your house is. next is meat. thats right, greens want everyone to turn vegetarian, because meat is linked to climate change, cows and methane. but perhaps the most insidious thing that I have ever heard is green movements attack on children. children and climate change. a bunch of interefering busy bodies in the UK, commissioned report which found that new born babies produced C02. This group demanded the reduction in child birth and argued that all men should get the snip after their second child and then there is space. Rockets produce C02. The greens are against space tourism. IN a nutshell, the green movement is attacking our way of life. IT wants us to stop driving cars, stop eating meat, Stop having children and stop flying in our areoplanes. It is time i feel o stand up to these bullies. but I think it is too late for that. they have the science on thier side so they keep saying. Anyone who disagrees with them is bopped over the head and silenced into submission.

liberals are really..
by emeraldboy
Aug 11th, 2008
08:33:40 AM
the most il-liberal people.
Don't forget the 'Fairness Doctrine'
by gboybama
Aug 11th, 2008
08:44:42 AM
An Orwellian titled piece of legislation if ever there was one. Isn't it bad enough that we're forced to fund Bill fucking Moyers with taxpayer dollars? Now, if this bill passes, those radio hosts whose views are consumed and paid for voluntarily by free Americans are going to be forced to compete with government subsidized 'balance?' Communism, I say. There's one reason Air America is a financial disaster. No one needs another liberal news outlet. There's simply no demand. NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS, NYT and LAT have got it covered. At least FOX offers boths sides. And again, viewers (from both sides) have voted with their clicker.
not meaning to create more "embargo" controversy
by Cedar_Room
Aug 11th, 2008
08:45:19 AM
but there are reviews of the Clone Wars everywhere. The BBC even has an article where it brings them all together (take out spaces):

http://news.bbc.co.u k/1/hi/enterta inment/7553560.stm

so there may possibly be a simple explanation for it - but if all these reputable reviews are out there, surely this embargo means jack shit?

Thin Skins rule us all...
by RobotDevil007
Aug 11th, 2008
08:47:20 AM
Great thinking retards.... cater to the loud-mouthed, thinned skinned, politically correct asshats who ARE NOT GOING TO SEE THE MOVIE at the expense of the fanboys who will actually be PAYING FOR TICKETS. Hollywood is full of the dumbest dipshits on Earth and it's decisions like this that keep me from becoming sympathetic when I hear how tough the business has become. Of course the movie business is getting tough... EVERY business gets tough when you run it like poor RETARD SIMPLE JACK.
YACK: "THE PEOPLE ARE DYING, MR. LUCAS"
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 11th, 2008
08:53:48 AM
lol!
Hey Moriarty....I take exception with that "wretched" comment
by nukedthefridge
Aug 11th, 2008
08:57:10 AM
My site, nukethefride.com is not wretched. Contemptible maybe, but not wretched. Geez, get with the program. As far as your comments about Uncapie, the guy is an upstanding individual and a very talented writer. He has never written a review of a movie for me that he has any connection to. He knows how I feel about that sort of thing. At nukethefridge.com you get honest reviews that aren't tainted by personal stakes, friendships with the "filmmakers", or are paid by the studios. And as for his problem with Harry's review of "Journey" it isn't because he has a personal stake in it, its because Harry's review was juvenile. You're telling me that you can't find a better way to say you didn't like a movie than to personally insult all the actors in the movie, and invoke the "steaming bowl of dick" comment?" Yea, thats some well written prose my friend. Personally, that wasn't my biggest problem with that review, it was the stupidity he showed saying that Anita Briem's character was from Finland, when she was from Iceland, the setting of the movie, and his contention that her being able to slip between speaking Icelandic (or Finnish according to Harry) and perfect English was unbelievable. If Harry would ever get out of Austin long enough to travel the world a bit, he would know most people in Europe speak multiple languages, English being one of them. Wretched my ass!
PTSDPete
by Dr. Butthole
Aug 11th, 2008
09:06:14 AM
There are so many things wrong with your post, I don't know where to start. I will instead laugh at all the irony you have put fourth. Thanks, buddy.
idk if its just that you're all trolls, or actually neo-conserva
by dr sauch
Aug 11th, 2008
09:13:46 AM
strange place, this forum.
Who cares?
by papabendi
Aug 11th, 2008
09:15:51 AM
Everything realted to Star Wars has been a piece of shit after Empire. Just pathetic childish crap. In fact anything Lucas touches these days is garbage. Indy4 was so laughably stupid and wooden that every time Ford stepped onto screen I thought someone had thrown a chair into the room.
Harry, my hero
by Ilteren
Aug 11th, 2008
09:17:06 AM
My conspiracy theory is that Harry knew about the embargo all along, but chose to warn us of the impending tidal wave of shit. Even at the threat of his own well being. So count yourselves the lucky few that read the review. Heed the warning and flee to higher ground, go see Dark Knight for the twentieth time!
If 'Retard' offends just substitute it with - Motard
by toadkillerdog
Aug 11th, 2008
09:21:42 AM
That word is courtesy of the LiberalWarrior. He probably would not mind.
If you're not taking Muslim censorship seriously...
by Iowa Snot Client
Aug 11th, 2008
09:26:25 AM
Then quit crying about this PC crap. No one's gonna pull Tropic Thunder from release because of death threats.
One of the Funniest Things Mori Has Ever Written
by The Funketeer
Aug 11th, 2008
09:31:25 AM
"Harry, being and adult who works in the real world." If that's what passes for adult behavior these days, our world is doomed.
Harry, you hippocrite. Shame on you.
by Uncle Stan
Aug 11th, 2008
09:33:45 AM
Waving the flag while you let Lucasfilms sodomize you slowly, over and over, with no lubrication.
Harry, my hero
by Ilteren
Aug 11th, 2008
09:34:16 AM
My conspiracy theory is that Harry knew about the embargo all along, but chose to warn us of the impending tidal wave of shit. Even at the threat of his own well being. So count yourselves the lucky few that read the review. Heed the warning and flee to higher ground, go see Dark Knight for the twentieth time!
Are you still fat, Harry?
by HoboCode
Aug 11th, 2008
09:34:43 AM
Didn't that band do anyhting? You should have dropped a hunge by now at least.
about that embargo....
by Cedar_Room
Aug 11th, 2008
09:34:48 AM
someone forgeot to tell Massawrym too.
about that embargo....
by Cedar_Room
Aug 11th, 2008
09:34:52 AM
someone forgot to tell Massawrym too.
Michael Savage is a milky load of horse spunk
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Aug 11th, 2008
09:35:06 AM
Sitting atop a steaming fly infested mound of elephant shit. The contempt he shows for the average American is mind boggling. This guy, along with Neil Boortz, insult their audience on a daily basis only their audience is too stupid to realize it.

And get over the "Fox News delivers both sides" garbage. You want to know what two sides they deliver? It's called their hand as they slap you with the front and back. CNN and MSNBC are garbage news outlets. In fact, referring to them as "news" is insulting to the few independent journalists out there that have maintained their integrity. But Fox News is a farce. And the fact that it's the number one rated cable news outlet means nothing.

1 out of every 3 Americans still approves of the job Bush is doing, the majority of Americans couldn't point Iraq out on a map or name one world leader and looking at some of the top ten TV programs (America's Got Talent, 2 1/2 Men, So You Think You Can Dance and Wipeout) reveals that we like our entertainment to be dumbed down and asinine.

Confusing Liberals and Leftists
by kevinwillis.net
Aug 11th, 2008
09:38:45 AM
Most "liberals", IMHO, tend to believe in the marketplace of ideas, and that conservatives are evil and want to destroy the world.

Leftists want to shut you up. They don't want you to talk about religion (unless it's something anti-Christian), differences between women and men (unless it's the oppressiveness of the male patriarchy and how men are natural predators and creeps), handicaps of any kind in any context that someone might possibly be offended, or anything that involves sex being positive, or feminine qualities being attractive. There's a real difference.

Liberals, who think conservatives of all stripes are evil/stupid and want to steal/destroy everything while twirling their Snidely Whiplash mustaches are mistaken, and may support single payer healthcare, but they don't despise free expression (which threatens the leftist vision of an elite utopia) the way real leftists do. They are as different from average liberals as survivalist-camp building militia types are from your average work-a-day conservative.

We all know what a big lib Harry is, and what a superficial and cliched view of conservatives he has . . . but he's outraged by this leftist, politically-correct speech oppression as anybody else.

And the guy who had everybody bring their Dixie Chick's CDs to his radio station to run over them with a bulldozer was a douche bag.
Dingbatty, As a Christian and a Conservative
by kevinwillis.net
Aug 11th, 2008
09:51:29 AM
I feel compelled to reply to this:

"Jesus fucked a goat and wiped his dick with the American flag?"

Yawn.

My apologies if you found my response oppressive or censorious.

Zzzzzzzzz.
Statement
by beelkay
Aug 11th, 2008
09:54:39 AM
Well, at least on changes will be made to the film (hopefully). People overreact so often nowadays. This is like the overreaction to the Obama cartoon on the cover of The New Yorker. In my book, you can pretty much do anything in the service of comedy and satire. It may or may not work, but you should have the ability to do it anyway. In this case, it looks like it does work, which makes it even more aggravating that some people are treating the offensiveness as a serious issue.
This reminds me of a controversy
by Omegaman
Aug 11th, 2008
10:01:27 AM
about a recent Snickers commercial. It had Mr T shooting Snickers bars (I think) from the bed of a truck at a speed walker (you know, those guys that race by walking fast. Anyhow, the gay community got all upset about it because they thought that was making fun of gay people LOL, because I guess people look gay when they speed walk????. They actually did get the commercial pulled. One of the dumbest things Iv ever heard. Just another example of PC madness.
Hey guys! What's happening in this talkback?
by ZeroCorpse
Aug 11th, 2008
10:01:37 AM
How's everybody doing?

Oh.

Ohhh.

Oh my.

Well. . . I'm still here, in case anyone cares, and I actually agree with Mori (Wow. That keeps happening. How weird.) and find a lot of the newer talkbackers who are raising a stink over this embargo situation to be classless losers.

Harry's taste is his own. Sometimes I agree with him, sometimes I don't, but I still respect his right to his opinion because IT'S HIS SITE and he's been kind enough to let me have a say here, in the talkbacks, for a very long time. The rules here are pretty loose, guys. We can curse, be downright obscene, and talk like film-loving geeks would really talk. Other sites insist on censoring our conversations, making them "work safe", and sanitizing our thoughts if they wouldn't be printable in the newest issue of "Highlights" Magazine. AICN has been the most open forum I've been in that doesn't have a bunch of 4chan dorks running around in it typing in idiot language.

So cut the guy some slack... He has to abide by the rules set forth for his review because he wants to be able to do more reviews and see more screenings of future films, and WE benefit from his ability to do that.

If you're going to blame anyone, blame Lucasfilm for putting out what appears to be a turkey, and then telling reviewers not to tell anyone about it until it's too late to save them their $10 admission.

I'll defend Star Wars most of the time, but Harry is entitled to his opinion, and considering he's more forgiving than I am when it comes to Star Wars, I'm definitely a bit worried about this film. . . But I will still see it, because it's Star Wars, and because I'm a huge geek and a complete sucker with my own opinions that may be different from Harry's.

Seriously guys--- Calm the fuck down.

Oh, and "retard" is a perfectly good word.
by ZeroCorpse
Aug 11th, 2008
10:03:58 AM
Oversensitive idiots need to get over it. It's a short form of "retarded" which was completely acceptable for many years. Changing from "retarded" to "mentally disabled" doesn't change the meaning AT ALL. You're still saying the exact same thing.
Vern: On Being Retarded
by kevinwillis.net
Aug 11th, 2008
10:05:14 AM
"Anyway what I'm saying is I can understand why they would be up in arms about some of these things. But in the case of this movie, they are COMPLETELY WRONG. If anything they should be praising this movie because it is very brutally and accurately satirizing the way Hollywood exploits disabilities."

That's kind of the point regard the objection to leftism (rather than liberalism, a distinction I choose to draw even if other's do not) and political correctness generally--it casts far too wide a net, and in attempting to be "sensitive", ends up attacking people who are, by and large, on their side. Indeed, what are the fundamentally arguing? That any reference to a mentally handicapped person (or the portrayal of one) in a manner that is common for average people, who get lampooned in all sorts of ways all the time, is actually kind of destructive. That there can be no throughtful humor directed at actors who portray mentally handicapped people in an attempt to court Oscar--much less actual mentally handicapped people, who are, in the end, human as well--is pernicious. The end result is to advocate that references to the mentally handicapped be expunged from popular media, so that the only safe or allowable place to portray the mentally handicapped is in PSAs between the real movies that people actually want.

These folks may be trying to protect the mentally handicapped, but they are, in truth, advocating that the mentally handicapped be banished to a pop-culture ghetto. Then, you get to add on top of that that "Simple Jack" was making fun of actors who portray the mentally handicapped, not the mentally handicapped!

What did these people have to say about Johnny Knoxville in "The Ringer"? Or that similar Southpark episode where Cartman pretends to be mentally challenged--and then the handicapped folks start beating him in the games. I don't think it's the best interest of the mentally handicapped to set them up as a special class that it's too dangerous to talk about or portray in creative media, lest you invite a boycott or a legal challenge.
On the "Retard" thing...
by onemanarmy
Aug 11th, 2008
10:05:45 AM
I'm guessing that none of these protesting do good groups have even heard of the pile of steaming shit know as The Ringer. Maybe because Johnny Knoxville and friends weren't making anywhere near as much money as the Tropic Thunder people. But still...
Those nutty liberals...
by Wes_Reviews_
Aug 11th, 2008
10:07:20 AM
...the ones that are SO liberal that they in effect, become conservative. The ones that are absolutely, positively 100% open-minded... until you disagree with them. It's pretty hilarious when situations like this crop up. I'm proud of Paramount and Dreamworks for not giving in to this kind of knee-jerk stupidity.
Copyright infringement = copy/paste Harry's review.
by ZeroCorpse
Aug 11th, 2008
10:13:33 AM
Don't give me "free speech" whining, dude. If someone copies and pastes SOMEONE ELSE'S writing, it's copyright infringement, so you really can't claim "free speech" when violating the site's TOS and reposting Harry's review. It's not free speech when the speech is comprised of someone else's copyrighted work. Sorry.
rbatty024: I Respect Your Standing By
by kevinwillis.net
Aug 11th, 2008
10:15:36 AM
. . . your statement. My point was, anecdotally, my experience has been exactly opposite. Although a number of personal experiences in art school, that I probably wouldn't have had at a trade school, are figured in there.

I have no time for boycotts, myself. I'm fine with people making personal decisions--I just can't stand to see that persons movie because of their politics (I don't have that problem myself, but if someone wants to make their decisions that way, more power to 'em).

In the end, whether there are more loonies on the left or the right, we may never agree. But I think we can agree that ideas should be set free, and compete in the marketplace of ideas, and if "Simple Jack" is too offensive, let's just let people make their own decisions about how to lead their own lives.

In this case, the side I'm on is Harry's. This kind of stuff is nonsense, and SimpleJack.com should be back up. The thought police are attacking viral marketing campaigns now! When will it stop?
haha Harry just got played by Paramount
by ArcadianDS
Aug 11th, 2008
10:16:55 AM
There's no protest.

There are no PC Police protesting this movie

This is all a marketing scheme to get everyone to rush to the theater to see what all the hub-bub is about, and to "stick it" to the man.

and Harry flopped for it like a dropped fish.

They Aren't So Liberal They Become Conservative
by kevinwillis.net
Aug 11th, 2008
10:18:48 AM
Conservatism embraces free speech (yes, even the sort that, in an appropriate venue, depicts Jesus and George pushing pooping on each other, ala Southpark). These "liberal" are, in fact, such leftists that they become puritanical, objecting to any offensive language, any argument against their positions (you disagree? Heresy!), any sexual depiction of women, and on and on. As you might note from the number of sexual scandals conservatives get caught in, being conservative is not analgous with being puritanical. ;)
inglorious renarns
by ArcadianDS
Aug 11th, 2008
10:21:41 AM
in case you weren't aware, a 'renarn' is someone who is SO painfully retarded, that an actual retard looks at him and says, "man nat dude is renarned.'
Gboybama: Bill Moyers
by kevinwillis.net
Aug 11th, 2008
10:24:55 AM
Take one Rush Limbaugh with a cup of Sean Hannity, two full cartons of Ann Coulter, one-and-a-half Michael Savages, turn upside down so it becomes a liberal, and then fund it with tax payer dollars until it espouses every neo-Marxist doctrine possible in the most glowingly positive terms. That's how you make a Bill Moyers!
kevinwillis.net - ZeroCorpse - the Real Reason
by toadkillerdog
Aug 11th, 2008
10:24:59 AM
You make some good distinctions between liberals and leftists, but where you and others break down, is the reasoning behind the groups protest. It has nothing to do with either being liberal or leftist. It is a zero tolerance policy. And I think anyone with an ounce of reason realizes that sort of policy is not the exclusive province of any political ideology or leaning. Consider: Gun Guntrol. Anti-Gun control advocates will fight every bill in every dtate, that even hints of limits of any kind. Sensible or otherwise. Why: Because it is a zero tolernace policy. They believe that any crack in the dam, will widen with any bill that gets passed that in any way weakens Gun ownership - even when it is tangential. The same goes with Abortion foes. Now, those groups are hardly what you would call liberal. The zero tolerance policy - in this case, extends to zero tolerance for portrayals of the mentally handicapped in a derisive fashion. It is also a way of generating publicity for their cuase. Zero Tolerance is what PETA employs as well. Like I said earlier, it knows know politcal bounds.

Zero - Retard has become a pejorative. Words and their meaning evolve over time.

Yeh like Conservatives care about your opinion..
by quantize
Aug 11th, 2008
10:26:21 AM
they'll take away those 'rights' faster than the wacky Liberals will try to tell you what to think..
unionJACKass.webs.com . . .
by kevinwillis.net
Aug 11th, 2008
10:26:46 AM
"As an atheist and an Englishman" . . .

Christopher Hitchens? Is that you?
That should have read "in every state"
by toadkillerdog
Aug 11th, 2008
10:27:56 AM
Not every dtate. Typos. Typos.
to quote Carlin " Changing the name doesn't change the condition
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
10:29:36 AM
Harry saw the pahantom Menace...
by emeraldboy
Aug 11th, 2008
10:29:57 AM
Before anyone else. and if i am not mistaken. He was given a video copy of the final edit. Know either that story was bullshit or he did see it before anyone else. to this day he has never explained, how he saw the movie before anyone else. nor has ever explained the level of venom he poured over xmen-3. that was even before the film came out. He went way over the top. if you find laughing at cripples funny, then you are a borderline pyscho/bully. Tom cruise is a fantastist. But this site is owned by somebody who a few years ago compared himself to tom Cruise. Remember Harry review for Mission impossible. I do and I still do. Great reviewers always reference other films in their reviews or can connect movies to real world events. The best review of a film that I have ever read in modern times is philip french's review of the lord of the rings. Philip french was not only a radio-producer for the BBC but he was also the Observers literary editor. He has been the observers film critic for 4 decades. Kermode and french are two of the best film critics working in UK today. Philip french has passed on his knowledge to younger producers and he was very good friens with the late anthony minghella.
I'm Liberal, and you're retarded.
by ZeroCorpse
Aug 11th, 2008
10:30:11 AM
Just like with Tipper Gore and her crusade against music in the 80s, there are some people who happen to be liberals who are also completely deluded. I'm liberal, but I completely disagree with the PMRC and I disagree with the idea of censorship of art, even if it's hateful, unless it's specifically calling for violence or crusading against others (REAL 'hate speech') -- Calling someone a retard is not the same as saying something like, "Retards are a blight upon society and they must be eliminated." (this is just an EXAMPLE. Calm down.)

Calling someone a "fag" or "nigger" qualifies as possible hate speech because those words have a history of violence associated with them. There was never an organized hate group formed against retarded people-- There's no Non-Retard Resistance. There's no church that protests at funerals with signs that say, "GOD HATES RETARDS" -- You just can't claim "hate speech" when it comes to a non-PC term being used in lieu of the PC term when the non-PC term has no history of being associated with hate speech, hate groups, or hate-spreading cults.

These so-called "liberals" who try to censor things are NOT true liberals. Maybe they think they're being sensitive to the plight of the average retard, but they're really just making fools of themselves and embarrassing other liberals. Their crusade is clearly a selfish one, designed to make them look like compassionate people who are "better" than you. It's not in line with liberal ideals at all.

As a liberal, I recognize that you have EVERY RIGHT to make whatever art you want, and say what you want within the confines of that artwork as long as you don't call for others do cause harm to a specific class of people.

Those white-power twin girls who sing racist songs? THAT is hate speech. They call for the demise of other races, which can only be construed as a threat.

"retarded" doesn't even mean what they think it means, these days. It's just a substitute for the phrase "extremely stupid" now. The original meaning has been lost, and shouldn't offend because it's almost NEVER used to describe the mentally disabled. It's almost always used to describe a normal person who just ACTS stupid.

Language these days more often calls Paris Hilton "retarded" than it would a kid with Down's Syndrome.

I wish I had retard strength.
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
10:30:13 AM
Zero Tolerance . . .
by kevinwillis.net
Aug 11th, 2008
10:32:29 AM
There is a limit to what can be effectively commented on in one talkback. Yes, lots of folks on opposite ends of the ideological spectrum engage in zero tolerance policies to prevent their being a crack in the door, and they go for sometimes outrageous "progress" regarding their ultimate aims--completely banning abortion, completely banning guns--under the same premise. "Let's go for it all, then settle for some."

However, varying groups duking it out seems to be what human beings, generally, end up settling on. No attempt to gerrymander it, from campaign finance reform to the electoral college to the kings of old--has really succeeding in preventing it. I'm just glad tranfers of ideological power don't end up with a lot of folks getting their heads cut off (in America, I mean). That, at least, seems like progress to me.
Misguided
by Rollo Tomassi
Aug 11th, 2008
10:37:10 AM
I saw and throughly enjoyed "Tropic Thunder". I also happen to be someone who is really sensitive, perhaps overly so, to things that are offensive to the mentally handicapped. To me "retard" is as bad as the N-word. But, again, having seen "Tropic Thunder", Hollywood and actors are the target, not the mentally handicapped.
ZeroCorpse:
by kevinwillis.net
Aug 11th, 2008
10:37:23 AM
"Retards are a blight upon society and they must be eliminated."

You said it. Can't take it back. I'm forming a protest group.

Almost all liberals were against the PMRC. There was a huge nanny-state element to it, but, as I recall, the senate hearings at which folks like John Denver and Frank Zappa and Donny Osmond appeared together, were bi-partisan. There are plenty of folks on the left and the right that see big government controlling things (from your healthcare to your CD player) as the natural order of things.

Man, I remember listening to those hearings. Very pathetic, bi-partisan time-wasting about what people sing about on their pressed vinyl musical discs!
They don't cut off heads here...
by ZeroCorpse
Aug 11th, 2008
10:39:33 AM
You get cancer instead, or die in a plane crash, or "hang yourself" in your mother's shed, or get your head blown off while visiting Dallas, or "overdose" on pills, or. . .

Well, let's just say the CIA or Secret Service (SS) aren't sitting on their asses all the time. They have work to do.

Retarded has a Specific Definition
by kevinwillis.net
Aug 11th, 2008
10:42:21 AM
Words have meanings. Retarded means, in essense, developmentally deficient. Unable to mature or complete an expected development arc. Etc. There are lots of good people to describe as retarded. Ever met anybody who was socially retarded? What, you can't say that?

It's bad enough that David Bowie can't talking about "smoking a fag" now. What's up with that?
PMRC
by ZeroCorpse
Aug 11th, 2008
10:44:35 AM
Yeah, that was some fun stuff. The best part was when all the pro-censorship types banked on "good, clean, wholesome" John Denver to side with them, and he basically said they were full of shit for trying to censor art.

John Denver saved free speech in the 80s. Go figure.

ZeroCorpse: Jimmy Carter is Still Alive
by kevinwillis.net
Aug 11th, 2008
10:45:04 AM
We have peaceful transfer of power. Period. Sure, the CIA may have killed Marylin Monroe inbetween trips down to Roswell to help harness the alien technology they use to bug all of our conversations (by monitoring the fillings in our teeth) . . . but our ex-presidents aren't beheaded upon leaving office. Some may disagree, but I consider that progress, given the historical record of transfers-of-power in the days of King George and Cromwell.
Bowie smoking a fag...
by ZeroCorpse
Aug 11th, 2008
10:46:03 AM
Well, as a HUGE fan who has met the man, I can say that when he says "smoking a fag" he might mean he's having a cigarette, or he might really mean he's blowing a transvestite. You never know.
Well said, Zero
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Aug 11th, 2008
10:46:54 AM
As a liberal who leans moderate or even outright conservative on some issues, I take offense at the PC police myself. There's a clear line between being offensive and flinging hate speech. I'm offended every time I listen to Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly or Savage (which I do so that conservatives can't accuse me of not hearing the other side) but under no circumstances do I want to ban their programs. Those ten digits at the ends of our hands aren't just for stuffing food in our faces, they can be used to turn things off as well.
PMRC: Donny Osmond, Too
by kevinwillis.net
Aug 11th, 2008
10:48:06 AM
And they were upfront. They wanted to do clean, wholesome stuff. And getting a G-rating plastered over their albums that basically categorized them as toddler-pop would have been a financial death to them.

In other words, the well-meaning nanny-staters, in trying to keep music "clean", would have dealt a financial death blow to clean, wholesome "rockers" like John Denver and Donny Osmond. What would have happened to New Kids on the Block if every album had had a big "G-Guaranteed Kid Friendly!" plastered on every album?

Not to mention the record stores, who didn't want the liability of policing music purchases and checking IDs.
Carter has his head...
by ZeroCorpse
Aug 11th, 2008
10:50:18 AM
But you can bet there were some people in the government who would have liked to see him choke on a peanut before his term was up.

Things are MUCH better here than in many places in the world. I'm just saying that we're not exactly Utopia yet. We're actually a few steps closer to Oceania right now.

I don't really care one way or the other. Revolutionary thoughts are for the young. I just want my neighbors to stop making so much noise and get their kids off my lawn.

I Thought Bowie's Bi-Days Were Behind Him
by kevinwillis.net
Aug 11th, 2008
10:52:23 AM
So to speak. And you lucky dog! Bowie rocks. I remember picking up a 3-dollar vinyl (at Target, in a dump bin) of very early Bowie years ago, with tracks like "Uncle Arthur" and "Rubber Band" and just falling in love with it. I had the mainstream best of Bowie CDs at the time, but it made me fill out the collection. What happened to classics like "Loving the Alien"? Loved that song, you never hear it these days. Changes, Space Oddity, Modern Love, China Girl--I still occasionally hear those. But never "Loving the Alien".

"Please, Mr. Gravedigger" . . . best song. Ever.
Kid friendly - - Hannah Montana
by ZeroCorpse
Aug 11th, 2008
10:58:16 AM
I think the current crop of manufactured Disney pop stars are precisely what we would have seen in the 80s if the PMRC had their way. Instead, it went the other way, with "Explicit" stickers becoming a SELLING POINT for artists.

In the end, the PMRC did more good for 2 Live Crew than any marketing ever would have. They downright sucked as a band, but because the PMRC (and Jack Thompson, especially) made such a fuss about them, they gaind a lot more fame than they ever would have if they'd been left to warble their lame lyrics on their own. The opponents just gave them a bigger megaphone, is all.

In retrospect, I'd rather listen to 2 Live Crew than Hannah Montana and that other Disney drivel. I'm just glad I was a Zappa fan.

Keep voting Democrat...
by Immortal_Fish
Aug 11th, 2008
11:00:57 AM
Who could possibly be surprised about this? The majority of you people fall lockstep behind a presidential candidate that one cannot criticize without being maligned as racist. Knee-jerk political correctness will result in the election of an unexperienced man we know too little about just because it "feels so good" to vote for him.
And the award for MISSING THE POINT goes to...
by ZeroCorpse
Aug 11th, 2008
11:06:52 AM
Immortal Fish, for missing the last two hours of talkback and just posting his knee-jerk conservative rant which, ironically, accuses democrats of knee-jerk political correctness.

WTG, Fish. Keep copying and pasting Rush Limbaugh's newsletter all over the Internets.

Bannings, anger, fear, aggression, and hatred
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Aug 11th, 2008
11:15:44 AM
This is a dark time for AICN. I almost re-posted Harry’s Clone Wars review because someone asked to see it. It’s weird that I even saved it, really weird.

So I’m glad I didn’t re-post it, I don’t ever want to be banned, I like AICN, I’ve read it since…I don’t know, ’97 or ’98 even though I only started posting last year.

The anger displayed here is quite surprising. The whole Uncapie thing. Yeah, that was one mean post, but so many others insult the writers of this site all the time and in a far worse manner. I’m not defending Uncapie, but so many others write things just as bad and demeaning. Seriously, some people just use the talkbacks to insult the writers.

As a writer, I have written and posted things that I regretted later. So we should realize that some people write off the cuff and this forum is practically designed for such knee-jerk writing. I know, because I’m just as guilty as most of you. In all honesty, I love reading a talkback post that makes me smile or laugh. Though I am sick of so many people insulting the writers, but trolling is what trolls do.

Star Wars brings out the best and worst of us all. We have a passion for it, love it, hate it, sort of like it, ignore it or whatever. It surrounds us, penetrates us, and binds this geek universe together.

Some of us mature, some of us don’t. Some of the Star Wars films mature with us, some of them don’t. It seems that we spend so much time searching for the next film or series of films that will do to us what the original trilogy did. For many of us this is our quest, whether we’re aware of it or not. It’s sad and tragic, but we also carry that torch to find A NEW HOPE.

Of course there are many talkbackers that are mature. There are many talkbackers that don’t have the same connection to STAR WARS that many of us have or had. There are many talkbackers that understand. There are so many that don’t.

Banning destroys the freedom of this site. It also protects site. Paradoxical. Insulting the writers doesn’t protect the site. Being insulted by the writers doesn’t protect the site. Sometimes the writers themselves write the most disgusting and demeaning descriptions. I can literally go from one post that’s highly intelligent to another post that is pure trash. That’s why I like the site. There’s a range. AICN is a guilty pleasure.

I wish that AICN never had to apologize for anything, that Harry actually had the freedom to write whatever he wants, but that’s not the world we live in. There are consequences. There are laws. There are codes of honor that even a free-minded movie reviewer must succumb to. Even Harry must censor himself. But I respect what Harry wants AICN to be, the vision he has. It’s similar to what I want every STAR WARS film to be; something greater than itself that allows us to become something greater than ourselves

LONG LIVE PONDSCUM!!!!
by rhcp2sweet
Aug 11th, 2008
11:19:00 AM
APACHE GUNSHIP!!!!!
Kooks is innocent.
by ZeroCorpse
Aug 11th, 2008
11:20:16 AM
It's actually about David and Angela's newborn son (Zowie). Bowie wrote it for Zowie when he got news of his birth. It was meant to sound like a 70's Neil Young tune.
Well said, Stereotypical Evil Archer.
by ZeroCorpse
Aug 11th, 2008
11:22:55 AM
And damn you for having the longest screen name I've had to type in a few years!

Seriously, though, you were spot-on.

Immortal_Fish
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Aug 11th, 2008
11:23:07 AM
I won't vote for Obama because of knee-jerk political correctness. I'll vote for him because I want to watch that tumor on McCain's face rupture on live t.v. when he hears the news he lost. Anyone who would vote for that crusty douch-bag deserves to eat a big bowl of John Goodman's shit after a visit to Hometown Buffet.
My son is Autistic, and...
by IceCreamSoldier!
Aug 11th, 2008
11:23:07 AM
Before you "talk back" to me, please read my entire comment. My son is Autistic, and I have upon occasion made complaints to various producers when they've used "Being Retarded" as a springboard for humour. I've even written Harry and a few others on this site to PLEASE ask that they try to use a more appropriate snynomym for "stupid", rather than resorting to a word that your average Junior High kid would use. Please everyone, understand this, when someone is clinically "mentally retarded", it means that they're operating under limits that you don't have. This is almost unbearable to those that care for them. Seeing my son mocked, or his condition mocked, is difficult to bear under the best of circumstances. In the case of "Tropic Thunder", I saw what they were doing and after thinking about it, decided that the humour wasn't intended to be at the expense of people suffering from the condition, but still wished that they would have not tried to find the humorous angle on mental retardation. But you know what, I DID have to think about it. I wish, wish, wish with all my heart that I didn't have to feel sensitive to it, but I do, because I live with it every day, and if I don't stick up for my son or his dignity, no one else will. This doesn't make me right wing, or even a "do gooder". It just means that I'm a Dad, and if you were in the same situation, you would occasionally feel that an email or two to a producer that intentionally mocked your son's condition was worth sending. I have a feeling that the "Do Gooders" in the organization are mostly people like me - either parents or relatives of those with mental retardation. Their motives are almost certainly good, and the fuss about "freedom of speech" overlooks the fact that they're not telling anyone that its against the law to use mental retardation as the foundation for humor - they're just saying that its not in good taste. I agree with that perspective. I'll fight for your right to offend me and my son by making jokes in public about "riding the short bus", but I'll still wish that you had the maturity and dignity to not make the jokes in the first place. Here at AICN, I think that will be a very long wait indeed.
I would never use the word RETARDED for autism...
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Aug 11th, 2008
11:36:39 AM
I generally only use the word RETARDED when referring to people with low intelligence who make bad decisions. Its the same with FAG....I have never used it in reference to a gay person-- only stupid people.
but anyway.....BOYCOTT TROPIC THUNDER!!
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Aug 11th, 2008
11:37:20 AM
Not because it makes fun of retards, but because Ben Stiller is involved!!
Ice Cream Soldier
by Dick Bahls
Aug 11th, 2008
11:43:10 AM
You seem like a good guy and a good father, and I understand your point. When many of us use these slang words, we're not doing it to mock people who really were born with these handicaps, we're doing it to mock people who shouldn't have any reason to behave like they have these problems, but do anyway. When I say something like "Fuck that retard Lucas, and his little troll Steven Sanshit", believe me, it is totally directed at them. I am in no way meaning that people with learning disorders are bad & shouldn't be cared for, or even that little ugly people shouldn't be loved.
krushjudgement
by Tacoloft
Aug 11th, 2008
11:46:23 AM
I thought I was the only one! :)
D.Vader
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Aug 11th, 2008
11:49:30 AM
Fred agree - up to a point about eliminating usage of certain words. Words have power. But as long as humans look to insult one another, they will always look for words that have 'sanctioned' meaning - such as from the medical establishment, and then turn them into a derisive one. It reminds Fred of a David Brin story. An Alien species came into contact with Earthlings. The Alien species was known to like words of insult. So, when the aliens asked the earthlings to name a particularly offensive and vile earth creature - as part of their 'research' into earth culture they said, the earthlings knew that the aliens only wanted the name of the creature in order to turn it into an insult aimed at earthlings. So the earthlings gave them a creature. They said the most vile and offensive creature on earth was - a squirrel. After that, the aliens referred derisively to earthlings as 'jeeky skirls' - they had a speech impediment and could not say squirrel.

If the medical establishment said 'pickle' was the new way of describing a mentally challenged person, Fred believe it would be the new insult word!

Dick Bahls
by IceCreamSoldier!
Aug 11th, 2008
11:53:35 AM
When You say "Even little ugly people should be loved" I presume you are referring to George Lucas. :)
"or even that little ugly people shouldn't be loved."
by ironic_name
Aug 11th, 2008
11:54:41 AM
you win. best sentence.
Ice Cream Soldier
by Dick Bahls
Aug 11th, 2008
12:00:51 PM
Sorry, I was actually refering to one of his henchmen, the nefarious Steven Sanshit, who helps him rob from the poor fanboys and give to himself.
It's still ok to insult the dirty illegal Mexicans, right?
by Mr Spork
Aug 11th, 2008
12:07:16 PM
embargo? bannings? now I know why ....
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
12:25:58 PM
they never posted my Pineapple Express review! its a RETARDED CONSPIRACY!!!!
My thoughts
by TerryMalloy
Aug 11th, 2008
12:36:15 PM
I haven't read this site since '96, but I still think it's pretty cool. I also think it's unfair to accuse Harry of being a sell-out based on half assed conjecture. It's his fucking site. If he doesn't want to piss off Warner Brothers, then he shouldn't have to. Now maybe that doesn't make him the industryhatin' spoilerspy pirate goblin christ figure that you imagined him to be, but oh well. Harry's primary interest, based on my dubious conjecture, is to keep loving films and have a forum in which to share his love with manchildren across America.

However, what I don't like is that most of the time Mori's only entrance to the talkbacks is filled with unabashed hatred at the tbers themselves. He's usually justified, I just wish he'd join in when he didn't feel the need to defend himself.

I love this site...really
by Sparhawk38
Aug 11th, 2008
12:39:11 PM
It is a riot in every way. Uncapie is craaazy however. There is no comparison between HB2 and JTCE, in my opinion.
The person spearheading the Tropic Thunder Protests...
by Harry Weinstein
Aug 11th, 2008
12:45:10 PM
Exec. Producer of The Ringer. Seriously, look it up.
Don't go to "NUKEDTHEFRIDGE.com" or you will get bored
by ironic_name
Aug 11th, 2008
12:45:16 PM
FREE SPEECH UNDER ATTACK!?!...
by Banzai Rootskibango
Aug 11th, 2008
12:48:40 PM
...seems to be a lot of that going around lately. Still here by the way. Also, somebody mentioned David Bowie which was awesome.
Dickblood
by Immortal_Fish
Aug 11th, 2008
12:48:54 PM
After immigration reform, the keating 5, the gang of 14, McCain/Fiengold, McCain/Kennedy, McCain/Leiberman, on and on -- I'm not voting for the weasly dirtbag either.

Yet I am amazed how quickly the media darling fell from grace in the eyes of liberals once he clinched the nomination.

Zerocorpse
by Immortal_Fish
Aug 11th, 2008
12:51:18 PM
No one ever has to accuse democrats of knee-jerk political correctness.

And I can't stand Limbaugh, shitstain.

John Edwards...
by Banzai Rootskibango
Aug 11th, 2008
12:56:17 PM
...should be put on the Maury Povich show so that he could get his paternity test revealed. "In the case of little-Liberal-Love-Child-Whos e-Name-I-Don't-Care-To- Know...YOU...ARE THE FATHER!
Just ot
by TerryMalloy
Aug 11th, 2008
12:59:02 PM
Just took down Massa's review
by TerryMalloy
Aug 11th, 2008
12:59:15 PM
Speaking of attacks on free speech....
by Zandunga
Aug 11th, 2008
01:01:42 PM
....what happened to the negative review of Clone Wars on the main page? Why did you suppress it? Did they contact you guys and ask you to bury it? Where's your passion for free speech now?
Advocacy groups had problems with this
by skimn
Aug 11th, 2008
01:01:52 PM
but had no problem with Radio?? That was an embarassment for all involved.
THIS HEADLINE IS HILARIOUS
by wash
Aug 11th, 2008
01:04:03 PM
Seriously, the fucking irony just smacks you upside the head.
re: Massa's Clone Wars review being taken down
by Rickey Henderson
Aug 11th, 2008
01:04:48 PM
That probably has more to do with some moron spamming for that NTF website than anything else. At least Rickey hopes.
Yeah, sorry guys
by Massawyrm 1
Aug 11th, 2008
01:04:54 PM
Neither Harry nor Mori are my immediate editors, and the editor in question was not told of any embargo. The invitations we received said nothing of it (which is why Harry wrote his as well.) Being that I sleep until noon most days, I just now discovered the situation. We've pulled it down for the time being while we figure out wth is going on - and it will be reposted as soon as we are able.
http://i37.tinypic.com/okbknb.gi f
by ironic_name
Aug 11th, 2008
01:05:45 PM
IceCreamSoldier- You're entitled, but...
by ZeroCorpse
Aug 11th, 2008
01:07:13 PM
You're entitled to your opinion because it affects you personally, and you have a parent's sense when it comes to this word being used. I understand that, but I'm sorry, I won't stop using the word if it's the right word for the situation, and sometimes, it *is* the right word.

If your son can't fend for himself, it's not my responsibility to curb all my behaviors to make his life easier. Nobody cuts me that sort of slack, so with all due respect, I don't see why one person's son should have any impact on my vocabulary choices. It's no different than people who insist everyone stop eating peanut butter & jelly sandwiches because one kid in school has an allergy to peanuts-- That's not my problem. It's the kid's responsibility to learn to deal with the negatives of his condition and act appropriately in response to the danger. It's the parents' responsibility to keep the kid away from peanuts and teach the kid to be careful when near other people who might want to eat them.

In the case of a word your kid might think is mean, we're not even talking about the physical severity that a major allergy would entail. We're talking about wounded feelings, and you seem to think it's everyone else's duty to avoid saying something that, even though it's not directed at your son, might hurt his feelings.

This brings us back to the P.M.R.C. discussion we were having earlier. Tipper Gore and her fellows were trying to censor music lyrics because they were concerned about how *some* people might interpret them. But that's the whole point of art: The viewer must make the choice to partake of it, the viewer must interpret the end result as they see fit, and whether or not you're insulted, saddened, or angered by it is not the point. The point is that while it makes you feel one way, it makes someone else feel an entirely different way, and their interpretation is no less valid than yours (or your son's).

If you know a movie has the word "retard" in it, then don't go. Nobody forces you to partake of this art. You may leave it as you so choose, and find something less offensive to you in your specific role in life. That's what it is to be a citizen of a free country. That's what it is to be a parent of an autistic child. That's your choice and responsibility; Not the filmmaker's.

I loathe some of the things said by Rush Limbaugh, Michael Weiner Savage, Ann Coulter, and Bill O'Reilly, but I defend their right to say it (most of it, anyway. Sometimes they step into seriously racist speech, and that's a step away from hate speech). I wouldn't try to censor Ann Coulter, as much as I hate her and the things she says. She slings insults toward me, and my class of Americans, and these things ARE intended to be hurtful and cruel, but as long as she isn't calling for people to harm liberals, atheists, homosexuals, or other "enemies" of hers, I've got no problem with her being given the opportunity to speak freely.

Do I think it's in poor taste? Yep. But it's entertaining to HER AUDIENCE, and people pay for her opinion, her spewed words, and her bass-ackwards view of things.

You can write letters of complaint. That's cool, and it's part of your right to speak freely. Just don't expect a lot of action when they letter arrives. While I'm sensitive to your situation, I'm also not writing for an audience of one. I'm writing for whomever can see it, and what they take out of it will have a lot to do with whatever emotional baggage they bring with them.

You seem nice, but when it comes to this issue it's you-- not your son-- who is being kind of retarded.

Your son is probably not as broken up about this issue as you are. If he is, just remind him that everybody gets some insults directed at them, no matter who they are. I'm a geek, and plenty of people have called me a "fag" in my life, and meant it in the "you are homosexual" way. I've been a pussy, a nigger-lover, and a jew-lover. I've been a dyke-mike (opposite of a fag-hag), a pedo (dated an 18-year-old in my 30s) and a "Satanist" (I used to associate with Wiccans) as well as being a godless heathen atheist and a good-for-nothing, tree-hugging, hippie liberal commie bastard. Harry is a fatass, a geek, and a carrot-top (maybe even a ginger). Others here have had insults leveled at them based on their perceived personality traits.

If your kid weren't autistic, he'd be picked on for being short, or tall, or for his music choices, or his parents' income level, or his clothes, or his toys, or something else entirely. If his skin isn't thick enough to deal with it, even as an autistic child, he's not going to make it in this world and you'll spend every moment shielding him from words.

Hey, I get you. You love your kid. The thing is that I don't love your kid, nor do I even know your kid. If I meet him, I won't say anything mean to him or call him a retard, but I'm not going to censor myself when there's the possibility that he might stumble upon my words, or that you might see them and be insulted on behalf of your kid who will never see/hear them.

My job is to write what entertains the masses and gets my point across. Your job is to keep your child from reading or hearing my words if you think they'll be harmful to him.

You do your job, and let me do mine, and we'll all get along.

Now, a definition:

Retard: "Delay or hold back in terms of progress."

"Idiot, Imbecile, or Moron"

If you would like, I can stop writing characters who call each other "retarded" when they mean "stupid" and instead have them call each other "autistic", "intellectually disabled", or "cognitively disabled".

Given the choice, wouldn't "retarded" be better? We can certainly start borrowing the other words that DO have a modern association with your son's condition, if you insist that the old word that is not used clinically anymore is off-limits.

Just a suggestion. Not trying to be a jerk: Just illustrating a point.

this is how democracy dies… to thunderous applause
by ironic_name
Aug 11th, 2008
01:07:59 PM
this is how - this is how - this is how..
Just out of curiosity
by TerryMalloy
Aug 11th, 2008
01:08:52 PM
I was under the impression that you guys always posted reviews before you were supposed to. I mean, isn't it sort of standard to wait until the release date to post reviews?
Wel put, Harry
by Project424
Aug 11th, 2008
01:11:28 PM
If and when people try and bash you as a journalist, I shall point them to this article and say "that's Harry, the writer."
Harry and Massawyrm, champions of free speech
by Conans Sword
Aug 11th, 2008
01:11:32 PM
seriously what the fuck are you guys playing at
Free speech is under attack
by kwisatzhaderach
Aug 11th, 2008
01:12:18 PM
from Lucasfilm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Massawyrm says ROGER ROGER Talkback is here.
by Laughing Irishman
Aug 11th, 2008
01:12:19 PM
http://www.aintitcool.com/talk back_display/37881
But Massa, how will we be able to trash Lucas now?
by Rickey Henderson
Aug 11th, 2008
01:13:07 PM
It's not as if we've got a substantial canon of work dating back to 1997 to rely upon! New gripes must be drawn upon! New shit has come to light!
At least we now know why Fox didn't want anything
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Aug 11th, 2008
01:14:53 PM
To do with this turd.

I still want to know why other outlets are able to keep their reviews up. If WB is threatening legal action then NOBODY has deep enough pockets to tell them to screw off.

If it's just a request from them for outlets to take these down out of courtesy until the 15th, then that's a different matter altogether.

Toe Stepping...
by Laughing Irishman
Aug 11th, 2008
01:17:46 PM
...I think AICN is trying not to step on the WB toes. They own the rights to a lot of stuff that I'm sure they want to get first dibs on. All the DC/Comic properties and what not. If they have to not review a shitty cartoon to keep those first dibs, so be it. With that said, when IS the clone wars due to show? If they can't post reviews before it's released, then that's some bullshit, AND if that's the case, then WB KNOWS they have a turd and are trying to keep it under wraps until after opening weekend or whatever.
Only an embargo because the reviews were so bad
by jimmy_009
Aug 11th, 2008
01:18:34 PM
I bet Lucasfilm thought they had hot shit and people were going to be all over it. The only problem is the thing looks like total garbage. Seriously, how can they fuck up Star Wars like this? It's a golden property if done right, and yet Lucas insists on getting everything wrong. The quality is so low on this cartoon it looks like a direct to DVD from some second rate Toronto animation company. I expect a whole lot fucking better from Lucasfilms. Really a letdown.
Harry and Massawyrm, feel free NOT to repost the reviews
by notdevin
Aug 11th, 2008
01:19:13 PM
The story is on Defamer!
by tonagan
Aug 11th, 2008
01:20:16 PM
http://tinyurl.com/5ec62v
Good luck to the WB...
by Banzai Rootskibango
Aug 11th, 2008
01:20:21 PM
...since all of the people who review the movie on opening weekend are more than likely going to say the same shit.
Embargo really? heres a link to 5 Fucking reviews!!
by Conans Sword
Aug 11th, 2008
01:24:53 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/ent ertainment/7553560.stm
nice tonagan
by just pillow talk
Aug 11th, 2008
01:25:49 PM
The link they provide in the story leads to Harry's original review.
Deduction: Clone Wars Embargo=
by Samuel Fulmer
Aug 11th, 2008
01:28:56 PM
High possiblility that the film is exactly how the reviews thus far have stated....all the bad things about the prequels multiplied. I actually hope that this and any future SW project Lucas is attached to does terrible, that way he can either stop making SW films/spin-offs, or actually give them to someone who can bring something fresh to the material. And when it comes to free speech I don't blame the few fanatical liberals and conservatives that help set the disourse for America, I blame the moderate majority for standing by and letting these idiolgically self serving idiots take over and ruin everything for us all.
for those just tuning in, Harry and Massa thought Clone Wars was
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
01:30:16 PM
allegedly... until the 15th
Defamer
by Laughing Irishman
Aug 11th, 2008
01:30:25 PM
Hot damn! That's one hell of a review by Harry.
kids pick things up from their parents....
by emeraldboy
Aug 11th, 2008
01:30:47 PM
An example of this is...the following. One week before 9/11 they eyes of the world, stared down on a road in Northern Ireland and were horriified to see bile pouring down on chilren going to school, this was hate-filled stuff. Catholic parents and Prodestant Parents screaming at one another and spewing bile. NI has quietened down, though there are flashes of hatered that erruptd from time to time and the government in NI is paralysed. Old habits died hard. and the wife of the PM of Northern Ireland, called Homosexuality an abomination and dug her hole deeper by going on radio and saying that she knew of a pyschiatrisst who could cure people. Later in the Uk parliament in private discussion she said that homosexuality was as abhorrant as child abuse. Everyone called Iris Robinsons remarks appallling. In a belfast gay pride parade, mock up of her face was put on the front of a truck. hilarious. But the shinners were silent on this whole issue. Hmmm. as were other parties.
add "shit" after "was" above
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
01:31:41 PM
Weekend Box Office Predictions
by Samuel Fulmer
Aug 11th, 2008
01:32:19 PM
1.Tropic Thunder...2.The Dark Knight....3.The Clone Wars. Dark Knight and Clone Wars may be close due to the lack of really any kids films out.
Clone Wars is G.I. Joe: The Movie
by Samuel Fulmer
Aug 11th, 2008
01:34:22 PM
And by that I'm talking about the one with Cobra-La and Jinx.
Embargo: Epic Fail!
by bass
Aug 11th, 2008
01:34:31 PM
So, as a former SW fan firmly disabused of his notions following the shite pre-quels, I honestly had about 1% interest in seeing Clone Wars. HOWEVER, my young son is a HUGE prequel fanatic, so I was considering taking him to see it. Given the reviews posted here, I think we'll be renting the DVD instead...that way, no profit to Lucasfilm and he gets to see it but I don't have to sit through it! EPIC FAIL! Thanks AICN for saving me some cash...but now you need to have the cojones to put those reviews back up and save others the cash.
Disability Advocate Groups Are Retarded!
by LaserPants
Aug 11th, 2008
01:35:50 PM
No, seriously, many of their members are actually retarded. I looked it up on wikipedia, which, as we all know, is also retarded. Lets face it, kids, we live in a retarded world and I, for one, am not afraid to scream I'M RETARDED AND SO ARE YOU! from every rooftop. RETARD POWER!!!
Where does this fall on the SW crap scale?
by Samuel Fulmer
Aug 11th, 2008
01:36:05 PM
And by that I mean anything that isn't New Hope, Empire, or, Jedi. Is it Droids, or The Holiday Special, or Attack of the Clones, or Ewok Adventure bad?
"You Are Not Authorized To Access This Page"?!?!?!
by LaserPants
Aug 11th, 2008
01:38:25 PM
Are you fucking kidding me?
Obviously Hollywood dislikes the Mentally
by Samuel Fulmer
Aug 11th, 2008
01:39:53 PM
Challenged. How else do you explain the blacklisting of Chris Burke. Everyone thought after Life Goes On he would be handed a big franchise like Batman or The Matrix. Instead he's lucky to get a guest appearance on TBN.
Isn't Stiller just ripping off the BBC comedy Extras ?
by G100
Aug 11th, 2008
01:44:04 PM
He appeared in it just after Kate Winslet and it also did the same kind of spooofing of Hollywood actors and the whole film "biz".

Kate Winslet had an amusing speech that she was doing a film about the Holocaust because she was tired of losing out on Oscars, as at the time she had been nominated four times, and that everyone who does a film about the Holocaust wins an Oscar.

Simple Jack...
by Banzai Rootskibango
Aug 11th, 2008
01:44:14 PM
...should have his own TV show.
God...
by onephatnelly
Aug 11th, 2008
01:44:40 PM
I fucking hate George Lucas. Arrogant prick.
oh and Clone Wars = Scrappy Doo (yes it really is that bad)
by G100
Aug 11th, 2008
01:46:42 PM
Lucas Is A Paranoid Control-Freak Nutcase
by LaserPants
Aug 11th, 2008
01:47:55 PM
I really think he's on the cusp of a total mental breakdown and disconnect from reality.
I thought this was the site that...
by wash
Aug 11th, 2008
01:50:47 PM
that ran an illicit hotel room early review of AoTC? What the hell happened?
Lucas needs Clone Wars box office success
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
01:51:22 PM
otherwise his offspring in the year 3022 may have to actually get a job to support themselves.
Is Mutt Williams in the Clone Wars?
by Samuel Fulmer
Aug 11th, 2008
01:51:25 PM
Maybe they can add him in at the last minute (smashed hand and all) to help appeal to more teens and idiots.
Clearly
by ArcadianDS
Aug 11th, 2008
01:51:45 PM
WB: "Uh Mister Knowles, we thought we paid you guys for some promo material and while our agreement doesn't cover the actual editorial content, it also does not assure you future exposure to on-set visits, cast/crew 1-on-1 interviews or return visits to our many studios. We would like you to remove your Clone Wars reviews until after its opening weekend."

Harry: "you can't threaten me. Im Harry Knowles, the guy famous for getting spy reports from all your secret projects."

WB: "so be it....journalist." *BLUE FINGERBOLTS*

Harry: "AUGUAUGUAUG FATHERGEEK!! FATHERGEEK HELP!!!" *bzzt bzzzzzt crackle bzzt*

Massabear: "hai guys! whats going on in here?"

Harry: "oh nothing. we're not reviewing Clone Wars because we'll lose our promo gigs and set visits."

Massa: "but...but...we're underground, maaan. voice of the people.. *rolls D10 to resist*

Mori: "dude, they took away my lab, they made Harry a corporate shill for crap movies. If they take away our SOUND-O-TEXT, then whats left?"

Massa: "dignity?"

Harry: *yanks updates*

Lucas Should...
by Laughing Irishman
Aug 11th, 2008
01:51:58 PM
Do a really good TV show like they did with Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. Because honestly, I don't think Terminator Salvation would have even been a thought if T:TSCC hadn't been as successful as it has.
Dear Mr Headgeek
by CharyouTree
Aug 11th, 2008
01:52:08 PM
Whoever is telling you guys to pull down the reviews ask them why then has every other site and newspaper printed their own?, and the 2 reviews I read in the British Press trashed the movie
it would seem
by Cedar_Room
Aug 11th, 2008
01:52:57 PM
that Lucas does not want the world to know that his latest film may not be what his devoted fanboys wished for. I would guess that he does not want negative buzz impacting on the box office numbers. I would guess this is because he long since gave up worrying about artistic merit and only about the gazillions he can make from the goons he so despises. Please let the truth be known AICN - if Lucas is shutting down these reviews because of nothing more than chasing more money then he has become as much a force for evil as the studio system he once so despised.
also, about the bannings
by ArcadianDS
Aug 11th, 2008
01:53:30 PM
long time in coming. the only people complaining are the asshats, and hopefully AICN isn't finished yet. They've left some of the hattiest for last.
speaking of Liberals and such like
by emeraldboy
Aug 11th, 2008
01:54:20 PM
I am very suprised that this site has not picked up the fact that Chris columbus is getting behind a camera again. that is a very scary thought. Chris columbus is making a bobby kennedy biopic. which is even scarier. I thought chris columbus had disappeared for good after butchering the first two harry potter films. but he is back. you have been warned.
"rolls d10 to resist"! fucking classic Arcadian
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
01:55:03 PM
Lucasfilm are bunch of no talent cunts....................
by crackerfarmboy
Aug 11th, 2008
01:56:12 PM
Time to go away. I hope Clone Wars makes $8. Then again Lucas probably charges more to pay for his "zany special effects", so I hope it makes $12. Drop dead Lucas.
Clone Wars reviews
by Thunderbolt Ross
Aug 11th, 2008
01:56:42 PM
I love how long the last one was up. For HOURS, then it disappears. After everyone pours their heart and soul into the TB ... tsk tsk
ArcadianDS
by LaserPants
Aug 11th, 2008
01:57:37 PM
That was f*ckin' brilliant! Hahaha! Nice one.
Don't forget, emeraldboy. Columbus also did "Rent"
by StarWarsRedux
Aug 11th, 2008
01:57:40 PM
But that already sucked. I'm a bleeding heart Liberal with a capital "L", and I thought it sucked.
What bannings?
by Banzai Rootskibango
Aug 11th, 2008
01:57:49 PM
Did people get banned or something?
I love the fact no one has pasted Harrys review here
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
01:58:19 PM
of course, I guess if they did it would be erased like the grassy knoll tape and they would be "banned" from posting...

(says the man who copied harry's review but is reluctant to paste it in tb)

Or how do you explain...
by emeraldboy
Aug 11th, 2008
01:58:50 PM
I am Sam. starring talk back fav Sean Penn.
Why others can post reviews...
by Laughing Irishman
Aug 11th, 2008
01:59:51 PM
...most other places posting reviews, IMO, probably aren't filled full of smaller version of the HeadGeek. We are the target audience. Therefore, we should not read a bad review until we've spent our money. Especially when it will be free on Cartoon Network. IMO.
Cunt
by nukethefridge
Aug 11th, 2008
02:00:45 PM
Cunt
Didn't Chris Columbus do Rent???
by Samuel Fulmer
Aug 11th, 2008
02:01:22 PM
A Bobby Kennedy film at this point is...pointless. Unless it's from Oliver Stone, who cares?
Never saw rent....either the play or
by emeraldboy
Aug 11th, 2008
02:01:53 PM
the movie. i loved the the bit in Team america, where they blasted Rent by calling it lease, and they only sang one song Aids.
I think we should have an "I am Spartacus" moment
by TerryMalloy
Aug 11th, 2008
02:03:31 PM
And all post Harry's review simultaneously on multiple threads. Just a thought.
EMERALDBOY
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 11th, 2008
02:03:38 PM
What. the. fuck. are. you. always. blathering. on. about?!?!??!?!!
Harry's Clone War Review Synopsis
by Samuel Fulmer
Aug 11th, 2008
02:03:38 PM
It's everything you hated about the prequels, taken to a whole new level. That's really it in a nutshell, with about 2,000 less words.
I think the embargo is going to hurt the box office
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
02:06:00 PM
worse than if they let the reviews stay posted.
I would have more faith in Chris Columbus
by Samuel Fulmer
Aug 11th, 2008
02:06:14 PM
directing a good new Star Wars film than Lucas. Sad that it's gotten to this point. If the reviews on this cartoon are any indication, the live action show should be scrapped now. Sad that Lucas is so ashamed of the Holiday Special when everything from the prequels on has been at about that same quality.
I Think I'll Just See THE DARK KNIGHT Again Instead
by LaserPants
Aug 11th, 2008
02:06:44 PM
I suddenly don't feel like running out first weekend to see this anymore. Not because of the bad reviews, which don't surprise me, but because Lucas is that much of a prick.

Of course, something to consider is the fact that this stuff is made for kids, and most kids stuff is pretty bad. Have you watched a kids show lately? Its a wasteland. Too bad they didn't just hire Genndy to expand on his series. He's the only guy who straight up knocked it out of the park since the prequels started up. HIs Clone Wars cartoons were almost more Star Wars than Star Wars; certainly more Star Wars then the first two prequels. Oh well, another epic fail from the house that youth-oriented merchandising and consumer nostalgia built...
Where are the Bothan Spies?
by Samuel Fulmer
Aug 11th, 2008
02:07:48 PM
When we need them.
HOLY UNCAPIE
by ArcadianDS
Aug 11th, 2008
02:08:39 PM
embargo or not, Uncapie hit the nail on its head with the hammer of doom. He was spot on about Harry's morphing from 'one of us' to an egomaniacal man-child whose maturity level in the content of his 'reviews' has actually REGRESSED over the years. This guy was on "At The Movies" once upon a time. This guy was on Entertainment Tonight countless times. This guy was mentioned by name, by actors on The Tonight Show and Letterman with regularity. Now they talk about DANNYGLOVERS DICKBLOOD instead, and Harry continues to achieve new lows in literary pantloading with 'chocolate covered (vaginal excretions)', 'steaming bowl of (penises)', and other refuse. He's in this now for nothing more than the shock value. Guess what Harry - all of us: you, me, Mr Dickblood - we've all aged with this site. We've all grown up, got married, had kids. We're 30 and 40 year olds now, and what we thought was awesome and your problem is that the rest of us took on the mantle of maturity (to some degree or another) and adulthood, while you continue to write your reviews in while wearing a soiled pair of Pampers. You're a child doodling with crayola crayons and then waving your random rainbow swirls at us and expecting us to look at them and say with baited breath, "my God its like a Picasso."

well its not ta Picasso, Mister Knowles. Its childish scribbles with Crayola Crayons on the back of a Denny's Under 10 Menu. We're not impressed, and those that are, are only saying it out of a condescending 'isnt that sweet' adult-to-child manner.

You're done, man-baby. You refused to listen to me and many others who flat out BEGGED you to stop being an immature tyrant, and writing reviews geared toward the 10th grade readership (dude, he just said 'penis' in his review thats AWESOME!! LULCOWS!!), but you didn't listen. We tried to warn you that studio executives - y'know, GROWN ADULTS WITH A MODICUM OF RESPECT FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR PROFESSION, would grow weary of your infantile antics. Your writers abandon you in droves like mice from a burning trash barge. Your readers have either washed their hands of you, or read the site believing in earnest that nobody would ever know they read it. You not only embarrass yourself daily, but the people who read it are embarrassed doing it. Its like accidentally opening the door to an occupied toilet. We're all terribly sorry for reading, and we back away blood-faced and wincing as we close the door quickly. You were asked, nay IMPLORED to grow up. You refused. You found yourself a bride and a stack of bobble-headed 'yes men' to validate your 'can-do-no-wrong' view of yourself, and now its come home to roost.

Apatow was on the money when he slammed this site on Conan. His basic assessment was 'wow things people say on this site are horrible. How horrible a person I must be. oh wait, its just full of idiots and immature wastes of human life, so no need to take it seriously.'

Thats what Mister Apatow things of this domain: its crude, crass, immature, and vile - and not to be taken seriously at all.

Once upon a time, a bunch of us did take it seriously. And there was a time when we and you could have worked something out, but you blew it. You blew it. There was a time but..

YOU BLEWWWWW ITTTTTTTT

yeah - I expect to be banned for my opinion and expect someone to delete this.

Just steal the movie...
by Banzai Rootskibango
Aug 11th, 2008
02:09:43 PM
...I'm gonna look at the movie times...pick two which play one after the other and then pay for the first one...then sneak into the one right after...which will probably be Clone Wars.
I think Apatow...
by Banzai Rootskibango
Aug 11th, 2008
02:12:40 PM
...IS Danny Dickblood. Apatow you son of a bitch! You and your "changing the modern face of comedy probably for the better" attitude!
Liberals need guns, too.
by Hikaru Ichijo
Aug 11th, 2008
02:13:16 PM
I'm amazed that this movie is catching so much heat and not because of Robert Downey Jr.in black face. Remember Ted Danson's gag? Apart from that, the term "retarded" is officially an ugly word that needs to be avoided in mixed company, then again this isn't the forum for social skills. As for the weekend, I'm almost sorry I have a life because I missed all the fuss. I understand that when I take my 6 year old nephew to see Clone Wars, I'll be taking a brain vacation, which comes as no suprise to me. Jedi sucked, except that I was thirteen and needed closure, so the bar has been set pretty low for decades folks. Also, Bowie kicks ass, and please remember that Satan is doing everything in his power to make his works appear righteous.
my "reimagining" of harry's CW review...
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
02:14:33 PM
it's as if Lucasfilm collectively f****d you in the a** then made you s**k their collective sh** covered d**ks, while paying them $11 to do it...
Rickey finds all of you fuckers to be hilarious
by Rickey Henderson
Aug 11th, 2008
02:16:32 PM
In the year 2050, are you dumb bastards still going to be doing this? Spilling vitriol online towards a shitty artist? If Rickey doesn't like a street musician do you think Rickey would spend twenty years of his life ranting about how awful that street musician was? And if he did, who do you think would look worse: Rickey, or the street musician?

Furthermore, how in the fuck are any of you pricks shocked at all this? Lucas created another piece of garbage yet again and you guys are acting as if a komodo dragon just jumped out of your pants. Jesus effingham christ get a grip already...
YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN ARCADIAN, EXCEPT
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 11th, 2008
02:17:14 PM
that Apatow is not exactly a paragon of maturity. He built his empire on misogyny and crude jokesterism. It was purely ironic that he picked Dickblood's name to mock, considering Danny operates on a higher level of maturity than he does. Also, you may not like Harry's reviews, but the recent hiring of Mr. Beaks has signaled that this site does have a positive direction, no?
ArcadianDS
by Conans Sword
Aug 11th, 2008
02:17:22 PM
all of us: you, me, Mr Dickblood...lol classic
IRRELEVNTELEFANT...
by Banzai Rootskibango
Aug 11th, 2008
02:17:42 PM
...Only $11?
Banzai, using market average...
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
02:20:03 PM
after whoppers and a large fruit punch, it jumps into the low 30's.
Hikaru
by ArcadianDS
Aug 11th, 2008
02:20:06 PM
I agree that if this movie was an exploitation of socially/intellectually deficient people, I would not see it. However, its not - it actually is a slam against people who DO make light of this issue for fun and profit. The only people who laughed at Handy Man (basically a Mentally Retarded SuperHero with Multiple Sclerosis) on In Living Color were people who just live in fallout shelters without human contact. Do you know why the Wayans troupe dropped HandyMan as a recurring character? Because a retarded child was born into the family. Suddenly, HandyMan was gone. There had been talks of a HandyMan movie, but it was just gone in a flash. Tools. This movie takes a shot at those actors/comedians/producers, and not at the handicapped themselves.

But as I stated earlier, google the web and you'll find VERY LITTLE about this massive push to inhibit free speech. Its a viral marketing campaign and at first I thought Harry was duped and fooled by it, but if that were the case, why is it in the column to the left where it cannot scroll away?

makes it look like he's actually PART of this viral campaign. More graft money. See what happened there? Now you dont know if the reviews here for that movie are real, or paid. You wonder if ANY of them are real or paid. We've seen a pretty major refund this morning for at least one studio, haven't we.

CHOCOLATE COVERED PUSSY JUICES ASIDE
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 11th, 2008
02:21:05 PM
I do commend Harry for calling a spade a spade with that Clone Wars review. He rightfully bashed the innate racism in the Hutt character, and that was some brutal honesty on display from a guy who is accused of betraying journalistic integrity on a daily basis. Yeah, I saved the review and just re-read it. It's one of Harry's best, if only for some well-deserved punches of brutal truth against a franchise close to his heart.
i gave a shout out to Dick Blood in my PineEx review
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
02:21:22 PM
probably why it never got posted

that or the fact I was baked out of my mind when I wrote the review....

Did Apatow Really Namedrop DICKBLOOD On Conan?!?!
by LaserPants
Aug 11th, 2008
02:21:38 PM
Hahaha! Thats great!! Danny, you must be proud.
Apatow
by Thunderbolt Ross
Aug 11th, 2008
02:23:59 PM
He doesn't know who's posting on this site. We could be a very talented and successful bunch for all he knows. And good-looking too.

Seriously- yeah, there is a lot of moronic stuff here but I've probably laughed as much or more at TB stuff than any Apatow movie. And there's a decent amount of insight too. So he should think twice. Think TWICE, Apatow!!!

for gamers: kinda similar to jeff gerstmann scandal on gamespot
by Seth Brundle
Aug 11th, 2008
02:25:15 PM
maybe some of you are also readers of Gamepost, the guy reviewed Kane and Lynch for PS3 and utterly destroyed the game, but......it just happened that sony had bought a shitload of ad space on gamespot for the game, so.... Jeff gets his ass fired to please the higher powers, reminds me of this a bit
All the reviews talking about AICN...
by Laughing Irishman
Aug 11th, 2008
02:26:16 PM
Makes me wonder just who is reading and joining in these talkbacks to have them post articles concerning them so quickly. Know what I mean?
Liberals take it to a new level
by halberd
Aug 11th, 2008
02:26:50 PM
when it comes to getting what they want. And the manner they do it is in great semblance to a dissatisfied child who didn't get an extra piece of the pie. They'll lie down in the middle of a big city road just get your attention, meanwhile they could be mitigating a day's worth of progress or accidentally be killing a baby somewhere yet not give two shits about it so long as the primary objective is accomplished. We doom ourselves to something of a diluted nation the more 'PC' we try to become... when in fact it's when we completely avoid an issue that makes said issue worse. Let Stiller tackle anything he friggin' wants because 1.) He's a character/comic actor and 2.) he's Ben fucking Stiller. I was in progress of putting aside the 'hate the way liberals in protesting work' mentality, because politics suck, but here I find myself completely vexed once again for oversensitive left-winged fools who seem really bored with their lives. This makes want to watch Blazing Saddles.
embargos and blaming libs
by filmfanatic1
Aug 11th, 2008
02:27:00 PM
First of all, if Lucas said to take down the reviews, every single media has to, or go to court, so geekies, stop crucifying AICN already! And as far as liberals in our society, you better look at the last 7 years. Conservatives have been running the country, not liberals, you got that, you right-wing hacks? Defend Bush, if you can, just don't give me the same old Rush Limp crap about the libs ruining the country. And of course, TROPIC THUNDER shouldn't be cut, no matter what special interests say. This is a 1st Amendment issue, something that you right wing loonies hate.
Only Liberals Pull This PC BS!
by ChildOfMen
Aug 11th, 2008
02:28:16 PM
Seriously, damn liberals. You'd never see a conservative do anything like this.

You'd never see them boycott a movie just because it promoted some ideology they disagreed with like homosexuality, atheism, etc. You'd definitely never see them scare a studio into watering down the anti-religious/anti-Catholic Church aspects of something like the Golden Compass. You'd never see them boycott Harry Potter for promoting godlessness and witchcraft. You'd never see them try to get evolution taking out of school curricula. You'd never see them try and get books taken out of school libraries that offend their beliefs. You'd never see the conservative fundamentalist Islamists protest cartoons about Muhammed.

Seriously, if we could just get rid of these damn liberals, it would completely get rid of all the PC nonsense in the world, since again, conservatives never try to boycott/remove/pressure to have removed stuff with content they don't like or that offends them.

BSB
by ArcadianDS
Aug 11th, 2008
02:29:27 PM
The review was indeed some of his best. You can tell when Harry is really typing his thoughts or just phoning it in and looking for that amazingly juvnile catch-phrase to top off a lack-luster attempt.

and LaserPants - yeah, Apatow was on Conan and he said he was on a website where someone called his movies a 'fart on American Culture' and that he actually felt terrible about it, and wondered if he was just a terrible film maker.."...and then I saw his name was Danny Glover's *BLEEP*blood so I *drowned out by audience laughter*..." and thats pretty much how it went down.

Word is getting out in Hollywood - this site is not to be treated like a serious movie news site. Its just a dung pile of hate and idiocy, and I still suspect that this 'embargo' is more of a "if you mention me or my property on your website again, prepare to defend your legal right to do so in a very expensive lawsuit - my bank account versus yours."

there are other sites online with negative reviews posted right now. Hmm.

CHILDOFMEN
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 11th, 2008
02:32:14 PM
Damn you! Reverse psychology = unfair advantage!

Good show, ol' chap

dont blame libs OR neocons folks - they're the same
by ArcadianDS
Aug 11th, 2008
02:34:00 PM
I believe that political viewpoints are not a linear left vs right plane, but that its actually a circle, and the further you drift to one extreme or another, both sides of the issue wind up standing on the same ground, some call it fascism and others call it communism, but names aside, they are the same spot on the spectrum.
I DON'T TREAT THIS AS A SERIOUS MOVIE NEWS SITE ...
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 11th, 2008
02:34:30 PM
I'm just here for the talkbacks, and I get great leads and recs from guys in here. I don't even read the articles - I start right at "First!!" and move from there...
ARCADIAN IS RIGHT - THERE IS NO LEFT VS. RIGHT
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 11th, 2008
02:36:10 PM
We're just being pitted against each other by the Satanic Illuminati. Divide and conquer, all to establish their One World Government. Keep that in mind you stupid wingnuts.
scriptgirl brings the seriousness
by just pillow talk
Aug 11th, 2008
02:36:26 PM
Right?
frank darabont implied I was a hillbilly
by ironic_name
Aug 11th, 2008
02:36:38 PM
just saying.
Embargo my ass! What about ALL the other CW reviews?
by reflecto
Aug 11th, 2008
02:39:16 PM
Come on, this is fucking ridiculous.
A word on free speech and embargos
by loserguy3000
Aug 11th, 2008
02:39:46 PM
Hey AICN

This is Harry's site and he can do whatever he pleases, even if at times it can infuriate the geek chic brigade. That said, however, there's a few things that I'd like answered. I'm an active reader of this site, which means I contribute valuable hits and visits (which in turn allow Harry to run this site). So I think that I - like others - are due a better explanation as to this whole Star Wars mess.

Harry, you saw a film you didn't like. You panned it. Others have openly panned it. Immediately following the pan, it goes down. You weren't aware of any embargo. Did you sign a legal document (even a simple NDA) before agreeing to see the film? Probably not, because you're smart enough to know that you shouldn't violate that (although this site has ZERO problem giving others the chance to break embargoes and their signed agreements...). But you didn't sign a damn thing, and therefore was not legally obligated to embargo anything.

But according to the posts here, you took it down because you feared the wrath of Warner Bros. What wrath? I write legal documents Harry...you're completely clean. You've violated not a single thing, nor should you fear the wrath of a film company that has obligated nothing to you, nor from you. Yet you backed down, took down the negative review (which I'm sure will go up post-release) and then rationalized it through hypothetical. You know better Harry, and we all know better. This site was built on disclosing private information before their proper release. Didn't you openly review a bootleg copy of Attack of the Clones?

As for Moriarity insulting people who express themselves over this little aside, be careful. This is a fan-made site, and driven by fan-made traffic. We're used to being preached to by the staff, we're used to plant-reviews, and we're used to indulging these fantasies that the people who run this program are doing it purely out of love.

The real deal here is that Harry doesn't fear losing money over Warner Bros legally (again, its not possible), but losing the very thing he treasures most of all - ATTENTION. He's become addicted to his own ego, his 'personal' trips to movie sets, his insider status, his legions of free swag. That's what he fears. And in order to keep the free train running he's willing to so easily sell his own FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION to keep the useless shit Fed Exed to his door. Forget integrity, forget being revolutionary. For all your talk of patriotism Harry, you're nothing but a shill for the meaningless, free shit that movie companies shove down your throat. It's pathetic.

And Moriarity...calling people here duces and insults them over wanting to know 'why' Harry did what he did. FUCK YOU MORIARY, because without 'us' (the fucks) you have no career. We made you what you were, before the press privilege of this site allowed you access to suck off the industry's teat. We've got time and love invested in Harry's page, and without us its just some random blog.

This is especially relevant as I'm posting this response in (yet another) a rant made by Harry about movie companies being 'afraid' of the mentally challenge advocacy groups. Yet they're attacking FREE SPEECH, but Warner Bros isn't?

Harry, despite the bad blood, we still love you. You're not indebted to Warner Bros for a fucking CENT. Post your view and stand by it, and your fans will stand by you. Because if Aintitcoolnews is nothing without its fans, Warner Bros is nothing without us, either. Grow a pair, stand up for LIBERTY, and tell Warner Bros and whoever the FUCK would threaten to take away those T-shirts and Batman logos where to go and how to get there.

Freedom of speech is USELESS unless its vigorously defended. DEFEND IT, Harry, because you have that right.
script girl brings the midgets under her sweater
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
02:40:49 PM
Harry told the truth...so what
by Conans Sword
Aug 11th, 2008
02:41:44 PM
thats his job. letting lucas and WB pull your review cause they dont like the content?? thats not what this site used to be about back in the day. i dont wanna use the word sellout cause i still like this site and harry, but what the hell was he thinking
IT'S NOT WARNER BROS., IT'S FOX
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 11th, 2008
02:42:41 PM
FOX!!!
Guys, check the archives for the answer to this issue
by ArcadianDS
Aug 11th, 2008
02:43:52 PM
I'll even give you your search words:

"An Industrial Light - That's Magic!!!"

find that article, and suddenly you'll understand the events of yesterday and today in an all new...uhm.... light.

PS: yeah dont try searching here LOL - google or use the wayback machine (google that).

How long before Dreamworks makes a
by Samuel Fulmer
Aug 11th, 2008
02:44:40 PM
sizeable donation to this advocacy group. Isn't this what always happens. We get a situation where some group is up in arms about some movie or something someone said, and the only way to make the advocacy group happy is to fork over some cash.
they're serious midgets though...
by just pillow talk
Aug 11th, 2008
02:44:50 PM
freedom of speech isn't free
by Cedar_Room
Aug 11th, 2008
02:45:39 PM
no, theres a hefty fucking fee.

Post the review Harry.

see above - let me save you the effort
by ArcadianDS
Aug 11th, 2008
02:46:12 PM
http://www.aintitcool.com/node /30338
Wraith of WB
by Samuel Fulmer
Aug 11th, 2008
02:46:14 PM
Means no more free stuff (toys, DVDs, set visits,etc)...right?
loserguy3000, they ain't scared about a legal suit
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
02:47:07 PM
they are afraid they will never get invited to the edit booth, on the set, to a private screening- i.e. lose all of the priveledges us geeks wish we had....
Freedom isn't Free
by Laughing Irishman
Aug 11th, 2008
02:49:33 PM
Been stationed in Kuwait and most of my buddies have been to Iraq and Afghanistan more then once. They've been shot at, bombed, and various other things. I've been lucky, they, not so much. I've known people and been stationed with people who've been KIA. I do think Harry and Massawyrm should post their reviews...if not today, at least BEFORE the release date of 15Aug.
and I'm going to contact Harry about a job....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Aug 11th, 2008
02:49:49 PM
....where all I do is review Uwe Boll films. My AICN handle will be Mr. Dick Blood.
...
by Laughing Irishman
Aug 11th, 2008
02:50:33 PM
Freedom of Speech that is...
AWWWWWWW FUCK!!! WRONG TB.
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Aug 11th, 2008
02:50:38 PM
Fuck off to all who read my last post.
Am I as important as Warner Brothers and Lucasfilm?
by Cotton McKnight
Aug 11th, 2008
02:50:46 PM
No, I'm not. And to be fair, I haven't read an official answer as to why all "Clone Wars" related reviews are being taken down. Logically though, I can't think of a single reason except for what's staring me in the face: Warner Brothers, Lucasfilm, or both, "threatened" Harry Knowles with some kind of repercussion if early reviews continued. Legal action? Nah, Loserguy3000 pretty much explained how that's impossible (unless he was dumb enough to break a confidentiality agreement- but that STILL wouldn't explain the review that was taken down today, that gave away no plot details.

No, the ugly elephant in the room is that he was threatened with lack of access to future WB movies. Early screenings, interviews, even merchandise. And that is inexcusable. Absolutely, 100 percent inexcusable. This is no different than "Access Hollywood" or "Entertainment Tonight", IF it's true.

I fear the worst, but I hope for the best. If this isn't explained properly by the time that stupid movie comes out, though, I will be forgetting about this place altogether. No, i'm not as big as Warner Brothers or Lucasfilm, but I had a hand in making this site what it is, just like every other reader. This whole thing is just sad.

is "midget" pc? (not that I mind pissing off shorties)
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
02:51:24 PM
you're short, i'm tall... deal with it.
Still doesnt explain...
by chuffsterUK
Aug 11th, 2008
02:53:21 PM
...how Empire/Total Film still have THEIR reviews up...
The Embargo will bring more bad publicity
by Samuel Fulmer
Aug 11th, 2008
02:54:41 PM
for The Clone Wars then if they would've just let this site keep the reviews up. It's obvious something fishy is going on if they aren't going after sites that are giving positive early reviews. The more defensive the powers at Lucas/WB get, the more this looks like a turkey. Usually when Harry gives a movie a bad review, it truly is a bad movie, because he gives almost everything good reviews. He gave things like Crash and Transformers bad reviews, while other reviewrs on this site didn't. And I know that if Harry were to ever give a Tarantino or Del Toro film a bad review, it would have to be awful.
pondscum
by Toonol
Aug 11th, 2008
02:54:55 PM
Any site that bans Pondscum is ok in my book. Most talkbackers add to the site; a few take away. Pondscum was one that worsened the site, and the people who OWN THE SITE decided to ban him. Their prerogative, and it's not censorship any more than trimming a really lame scene out of a movie is.
ZeroCorpse
by IceCreamSoldier!
Aug 11th, 2008
02:58:17 PM
I don't know who you ~really~ are - I presume you're in the business - but if you ever have a child with a mental disability, I think you'll suddenly stop using dialogue like "You retard." I appreciate your commentary and like I said, I'm not going to sue anyone, but making fun of the mentally retarded, or using the word retarded as a pejorative, is simply immature. As for me being more broken up about it than my son? You're right. He's about to turn 8 and can't talk or understand anything more than a simple sentence. He may never be able to do more than that, though God knows we're trying everything and are going deep into debt because of it. Every major life event for us is tinged with the thought that "Maybe by next year he'll be able to..." with the knowledge that he probably won't. I don't want your sympathy, but I do want you to understand how this issue is truly not a laughing matter. I try not to take offense when people casually use the word retarded because they're not be malicious, just thoughtless. I'm sure you wouldn't call my son retarded to his or my face, but then how is it better when you use a Television Show or Movie to make fun of him. If you can't say something cruel to someone's face, I don't see how its somehow acceptable (morally, not legally) to make a joke at their expense behind their back.
Come join the AICN fun.
by Laughing Irishman
Aug 11th, 2008
02:58:43 PM
http://www.aintitcool.com/talk back_display/37881
Thing everyone must remember about this site
by Samuel Fulmer
Aug 11th, 2008
03:01:47 PM
It's really just an overglorified interactive fanzine. At the end of the day, the reviews aren't very objective, and most of the interviews are puff pieces (even though they're puff pieces on guys like Sam Raimi and Frank Darabont, not Brad Pitt or Barack Obama). Enjoy it for what it is, a site that preaty much collects all of it's movie news from other film sites, gives reviews that are sometimes colored by what free stuff may have been given/or if they are friends with the director/actor, and provides a hilarious talkback where people can vent about the sorry state of the cinematic art. Really, the large amount of people in the talkbacks is the reason d'etre for this site. Otherwise why come here for news you could've gotten from other websites hours/days/weeks ago?
Samuel Fulmer
by ArcadianDS
Aug 11th, 2008
03:02:05 PM
LucasFilm is NOT removing all negative reviews from the internet, and they are NOT removing negative reviews from AICN.

They are removing ALL reviews at AICN ONLY. There are lots of sites with reviews posted online right now, some good and some negative. The fact is that Lucas/WB has placed a trade embargo (Phantom Menace, anyone?) on ANY AND ALL content here at this one website. Welcome to Aint It Yesterdays Embargo-Delayed News Dot Com.

the film doesnt open in ireland till September...
by emeraldboy
Aug 11th, 2008
03:04:19 PM
and by then this film will have either be hailed as a piece of crap or a work of genius. if it does stink and I dont as I havent seen it. This will do one thing positive, it will destroy not only the careers of Stiller and company. But it will kill off the crediblity of the unamed actor whose identity we know already know but paramount wont reveal. Clue his wife is in a play. and all the actors in that play have been gagged. that is no bs. A guy as a bet bought 1,000 tickets and he cant give them away, word of mouth is that bad.
Lucas can't take criticism
by The Winged Doucheman
Aug 11th, 2008
03:05:19 PM
Thats why his movies are shit these days. At least Spielberg attempted to call him on his bullshit. Not enough apparently. Clone wars sounds like Lucas took a shit in our fridge before nuking it. Does the casual moviegoer give a shit about an animated Star Wars movie? I don't see anyone taking a date or buying advanced tickets for a cartoon movie. Imagine asking a girl out and taking her to fucking Clone Wars on a first date. If you made it to the theater, she'd leave you as soon as she realized what she'd gotten herself into. Then you're left with your flaccid dong sitting in a half empty popcorn bucket, deprived of the reaction to her going for the next handful of kettle corn.
Samuel and Arcadian..
by Laughing Irishman
Aug 11th, 2008
03:06:05 PM
my philosophy ...most other places posting reviews, IMO, probably aren't filled full of smaller version of the HeadGeek. We are the target audience. Therefore, we should not read a bad review until we've spent our money. Especially when it will be free on Cartoon Network. IMO.
So goeth the Headgeek...
by L.H.Puttgrass
Aug 11th, 2008
03:06:05 PM
... so goeth the Wyrm.

And the embargo claims another for its unquenchable appetite.

ArcadianDS
by Samuel Fulmer
Aug 11th, 2008
03:07:43 PM
Well why do you think this is? My guess (and I don't blame the guy since we know this isn't Film Comment, Film Threat, or anything other than an interactive fanzine), Harry doesn't want to stop getting the free stuff.
Laughing Irishman
by ArcadianDS
Aug 11th, 2008
03:07:53 PM
I hardly think that sites like Variety, Hollywood Reporter, and Empire Magazine Online are 'smaller version of the HeadGeek.'
Arcadian...
by Laughing Irishman
Aug 11th, 2008
03:10:33 PM
So Variety, HR, and Empire are Embragoed as well?
yes but notice how other sites
by ArcadianDS
Aug 11th, 2008
03:10:45 PM
haven't pulled their content, and are willing to surrender set visits and free industrial lights for the sake of objective journalism.
Apatow also mentioned Dickblood at the Comicon Panel
by wash
Aug 11th, 2008
03:12:47 PM
About a week before Conan.
Lucas has hawked a loogie...
by biggles2_22
Aug 11th, 2008
03:13:06 PM
...into the face of Genndy Taratosky. "That'll teach you to make a cartoon that's better than the last three movies that I've made!" This movie is great if you've ignored all previous incarnations of the Star Wars universe, if you're under 7 years old, and if you're wearing ear plugs. Cool thing though, WB brought out some fully dressed clone-storm troopers and Darth Vader to the screening. My kids dug it.
Hate speech is no GOUDA!
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
03:13:14 PM
Gotcha...
by Laughing Irishman
Aug 11th, 2008
03:13:46 PM
Like I said, this will probably be AICN's "Metallica v. Napster". I still love the site but this makes me go WTF?
loserguy3000
by Thunderbolt Ross
Aug 11th, 2008
03:13:56 PM
Nicely put
Spread the love, a la...
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
03:14:04 PM
canned, processed cheese on toast.
When has this site ever been objective?
by Samuel Fulmer
Aug 11th, 2008
03:14:28 PM
Even in the old days it was obvious this site was not objective. Remember the Godzilla review, or when Harry gave a glowing review to someone who happened to be Moriarity. When have you ever heard a negative word about AICN buddies Del Toro and Tarantino. Tarantino could direct the worst film ever made, and it would still get a positive review on here.
Apatow is Dickblood!
by The Winged Doucheman
Aug 11th, 2008
03:14:36 PM
Einhorn is Finkle!
Aint It Only Here
by chuffsterUK
Aug 11th, 2008
03:15:36 PM
That reviews have been pulled....NOWHERE else!??
Holy Mozzarella!
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
03:15:57 PM
Too much hate for dairy products to contain.
Glowing review of Moriarty...
by Laughing Irishman
Aug 11th, 2008
03:16:03 PM
Maybe I'm missing something but...what?
Everybody just chill...
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
03:17:31 PM
and have some nachos. With extra cheese!

That will solve everything.

Apatow IS Dickblood! thanks douche
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
03:18:06 PM
it all makes sense now...
Glowing review of one of his screenplays
by Samuel Fulmer
Aug 11th, 2008
03:18:33 PM
Even though I don't know, maybe they had a beauty contest for guys standing in line for Phantom Menace.
Nacho KoolAid?
by Laughing Irishman
Aug 11th, 2008
03:19:05 PM
Yuck!
You don't call retarded people retards
by palooka_boy
Aug 11th, 2008
03:19:49 PM
Its bad taste. You call your friends retards when they're acting retarded.
Censorship is like Parmigiano-Reggiano.....
by travis-dane
Aug 11th, 2008
03:20:30 PM
it stinks and makes you fart.....
Harry has a beer and cheats on the First Amendment
by bass
Aug 11th, 2008
03:21:35 PM
Harry did a deal with lucasfilm over the phantom
by emeraldboy
Aug 11th, 2008
03:22:09 PM
menace. Harry was flown first class to secret hotel. Where he got a room. Then at a certain time they handed him the Video for the phantom menace. His review was hysterically over the top. Great praise for them and the movie. It was a very boring overly long dull piece of nonsense. only the pod race was oustanding. and williams score and the final battle between Qou-gon jin and Darth Maul. When Harry did the same thing with Fox for rollerball. fox were expecting the same positive response. Harry tore that film and the studio apart. turned on my tv a couple of weeks ago Rollerball was on. Utter crap. 5mins were all I could stand. and still have no idea what the hell was going on. al lot of people admired Harry for his review of rollerball and for the anti hollywood position he took. Look harry is married now. Who knows will want to start a family. HIs priorities have changed. He has been bombarded with offers for this site. Maybe he saw something in Tropic thunder. Himself. maybe it spoke to him, that after all these years here is a film which agress with views politically and with his views on the film business. Which is why he loved it and why he hates the fact that liberals dont. maybe harry is not a liberal. it explains the bile for x-men 3. That campaign bordered on homophobic.
THIS IS NOT A FREE SPEECH ISSUE
by Mullah Omar
Aug 11th, 2008
03:22:52 PM
This issue relates to ARTISTIC FREEDOM and CREATIVE CONTROL, not FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

Basically, the studio faced a controversy over the content of its film and had to determine the cost/benefit to retaining the content. This is no different than audience members calling a radio station to complain about something they heard during a broadcast and didn't like - the station has every right to simply ignore the complaints, just like every audience member has the right to not listen to that station.

There was and is no legal restriction on the content that spawned this controversy. Everyone can relax and stop shielding yourselves from the sky.
Mmmm... CHEESE...
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
03:23:07 PM
What about some asiago. Or Bros? Burrata? Crescenza? Provolone? Romano? Dolcelatte? Gorgonzola? Frisian? Limburger?

There's gotta be enough to fill everyone's insatiable hate.

I hope Dickblood is Apatow.
by Cotton McKnight
Aug 11th, 2008
03:23:45 PM
Because I want to let him know that I walked out of the Pineapple Express yesterday. You are a second rate John Hughes and your time is almost up. Oh shoot! My name isn't funny enough for him to mention it on a national talkshow. From now on, my name is Juggs Crapatow. Ha ha ha.
Travis Dane1
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
03:24:58 PM
Finally someone's speaking my language. It's nacho business, but you're on the right track.
Travis Dane!
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
03:25:06 PM
Finally someone's speaking my language. It's nacho business, but you're on the right track.
Lots of whining in here...
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
03:26:27 PM
and not enough CHEESE to go with it!
Venezuelan Beaver Cheese!
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
03:27:58 PM
You know you want it.
This movie is going to be awesome....
by TheWaqman
Aug 11th, 2008
03:28:29 PM
better than that Seth Rogen shit anyways.
Pertaining to that V.B.C.
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
03:28:41 PM
10 points to whoever gets the reference.
Seth Rogen always looks constipated.
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
03:29:33 PM
You guessed it. Too much cheese.
And now RDJ...
by rxse7en
Aug 11th, 2008
03:30:16 PM
http://tinyurl.com/6ouqlr
if DickBlood is Apatow, here's my PineEx review (embargo this mo
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
03:31:39 PM
In honor of Mori (who basically just read his contest response emails and made a list... bra-fucking-vo Mori, bravo, my friend), the first three paragraphs of this review will have nothing to do with the movie review itself.    Which is also why I will cc' this submission to Harry and the rest of the gang.  Someone is bound to either think it's funny or just be real fucking tired and/or stoned.  

  First off, let me commend the Los Angeles geeks, stoners and slackers(or hybrids thereof)  who showed up (quite early, I might add) to get in line for this screening.  You either were very motivated (not stoned) or you were a complete stoner and 6pm was borderline “sleeping in” for you.  Either way,  it felt like high school all over again.   By that I mean the fact we were all up against the walls of the Sherman Oaks Galleria, looking … well… looking like the freaks and geeks that we are.   And cutting right through the center of our FNG experience was a steady stream of type-a, highly motivated, health conscious people going to workout at a popular LA gym.  Fuck them, fuck them in their fat free asses.   Those people suck squirrel scrotums (down by the seashore).     No, really, they do suck squirrel scrotums.  It's like steroids or hgh, only it doesn't show up on any blood tests.  It's LA, don't put it past us.

  Secondly.  Remember what I said, three senseless paragraphs, then my fucking review.   This is only number two.     And now that I’m wasting it explaining myself, I feel the need to pad it a little.     Did I mention the three security guys for the event were built like Oddjob?    They knew they were in for an easy shift with the assorted  slackers, geeks and stoners ( oh my!). And Mori, if that was you checking the names on the list, way to rock the ASS out of the  Michael Moore/Kevin Smith look.     Do you have a fanny pack that goes with that outfit?

    Fuck the third paragragh, let’s jump into this review.    This shit is funny, REAL fucking funny.  Fucking funny with explosions and shoot-em-outs and weed.   First and foremost, James Franco’s Saul Silver has out Spicolied Spicoli.   All I can say is, if you have ever purchased weed, or in my case lived upstairs from a weed dealer (for legal and professional purposes, that’s all I’m willing to admit to) , you know Saul Silver.  You have been in his apartment, sat on his couch and watched the equalizer on his hi-fi 90's era home stereo system dance in rhythm to something from the Bob Marley catalogue.  

   As for Seth Rogen – if Albert Brooks and a young Tim Robbins ( circa ‘Spring Break’)  were beamed simultaneously aboard the Starship Enterprise, and their DNA bonded on a molecular level like Jeff Goldblum and the Fly  (FUCK JEFF GOLDBLUM!), you would have Seth Rogen.   Maybe it’s because we have a similar build, but dammit, he is just a likeable guy.   And to you talkbackers who are on the “I hate Seth Rogen” tour bus, who gives a shit.  This is my review, I like the guy (but not enough to suck his dick, Danny_Glovers_Dick_Blood!), so fuck you, you fucking fuckwad fucking fucknuts who disagree.   It’s only my opinion, and we all know opinions are like assholes- no one likes theirs getting fucked with by a stranger.   

And how about Danny Fucking R McBride .  If the R doesn’t already stand for Red, he should go and legally change his name.   I am going to go as Red for Halloween.  

  As for the movie as a whole, I could go into the whole plotline, but why? Dale and Saul are the new Cheech and Chong… wait, no …. wouldn't that be Harold and Kumar? hmm    maybe they are Bill and Ted?   No, that sequel sucked.    Gotta be duo that rocked the shit on the big screen a few times....   Wilder and Pryor?   You know what, fuck it.   Harold and Kumar are far too motivated and productive to be the new Cheech and Chong.   Besides to be the new Cheech and Chong, you gotta have the "Chong" -  the perma-stoned- relax-meister-general.   Neither Harold nor Kumar fit that bill.  So, back to my original statement, Dale and Saul are the new Cheech and Chong.   That’s right…. I said it.    Superjoint is all you need to know. And the whole door buzzer scene is right along the lines of  C&C’s “Daves not here”  skit.  

Go see this and support quality R rated comedies.  

Fuck children under 17 without parent or guardian permission.   Leave them to see Brendan Fraser get one step closer to "Encino Man II: No Refunds Given"

Really people, we need at least 3 Dale and Saul movies to get the shit taste of the Mummy Trilogy out of our mouths.   Mummys are meant for horror movies you douchebags that supported that crap. 

  They Call Me Irrelevant Elephant

  And once again, should you disagree with any of what I have stated here today, 

  Opinions…

  Assholes…

  Neigh means neigh…

"Never go full retard."
by fiester
Aug 11th, 2008
03:33:39 PM
Does know any sites that have the "Simple Jack" trailer cached? I want to see it now. Heh.
Mullah Omar
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
03:33:50 PM
If the sky WAS falling, I'd want it to be in the form of Monterray Jack. Mmmmm....
Screw this, just SINK TITANIC!!! www.sinktitanic.com
by Zartan
Aug 11th, 2008
03:35:09 PM
You know the Dark Knight is a better film. Read their mission statement in the blog. Dead on!!!!
The thing is..
by emeraldboy
Aug 11th, 2008
03:36:09 PM
Loathe empire as much as you want but they did give the fill three stars. which means the movie is mediocre and all of this stuff that you are seeing happening today is not new. It happened a couple of weeks ago with Xes and the City. Which was the collosal hit of the early summer before batman came and swept everything away. Fox created net groups populated by people who loved sex and the city. The limited the press reviews untill three days before the film came out. This negated any bad publicity. Tara Brady the film editor of irelands hotpress magazine stuffed the film by calling it a disgusting film and nothing more than 2.5hr of shopping pornography. Irish Film journalists gutted the movie compeletly. but it made money and all the ads on tv claimed it was one of the best film of the year,
My short review of Pineapple Express.
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
03:37:02 PM
Too cheesy.
But did Pinneaple Express include a Cockmeat Sandwhich?
by The Winged Doucheman
Aug 11th, 2008
03:38:02 PM
H&K>D&S
Sex and the City...
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
03:40:14 PM
would have been better if they would have made Sarah Jessica Parker wear one of those cheese head things that you always see at Packer games.

Instant fashion statement.

Tropic Thunder >>>>>>>>> Pineapple Express
by TheWaqman
Aug 11th, 2008
03:40:17 PM
Hilarious parody of Hollywood, Robert Downey Jr. playing a black guy, awesome viral marketing campaign that pisses off activist groups, and unrecognizable (thankfully) cameo by Tom Cruise as a fat pervert.
Who needs Cockmeat...
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
03:41:29 PM
When you have Fromunda cheese? You know what I'm saying!?
Cruising-esque statement for Tropic Thunder
by Samuel Fulmer
Aug 11th, 2008
03:42:32 PM
They could put this before the film "THIS FILM IS NOT INTENDED AS AN INDICTMENT OF THE RETARDED WORLD. IT IS SET IN ONE SMALL SEGMENT OF THAT WORLD, WHICH IS NOT MEANT TO BE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE WHOLE."
touche douche, no cockmeat sammy...
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
03:43:09 PM
but Red could take Neil Patrick Harris in the Octagon anyday!
Fromunda Deez Nutz
by The Winged Doucheman
Aug 11th, 2008
03:43:56 PM
Brought to you by the makers of Chin Nuts.
Well...
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
03:45:55 PM
The only thing worse than chestnuts, are chin nuts. And moldy cheese.
Review
by Giario
Aug 11th, 2008
03:46:12 PM
“Harry hated THE CLONE WARS! I’ve never hated a STAR WARS film before. I have weathered Jar Jar and any number of Ewoks. I survived Hayden and a wooden Portman. I even accepted Jake Lloyd. I handled all that because it felt like STAR WARS. I can accept all of Lucas’ flaws, so long as at its heart it felt like Star Wars. I can deal with politics in Star Wars. I can deal with trade skirmishes in Star Wars. I can deal with musical numbers, breathing in the vacuum of space. Basically – so long as it feels like STAR WARS – I can watch any of it. Was I looking forward to STAR WARS: THE CLONE WARS (2008)? Fuckin’ A! I was dying. After Genndy’s CLONE WARS – I felt that perhaps Lucas “got it” – and that this new animated series was taking a lead from Tartakovsky’s brilliant assembly of pieces. Genndy’s CLONE WARS got STAR WARS better than anyone has got it since Lawrence Kasdan and Irvin Kershner. Genndy took designs and characters that folks were dissatisfied with and made them cool. He did this by using and adapting the themes created by John Williams, the wholly perfect entity involved with Star Wars along with… the sound effects of Ben Burtt. He understood speed and motion – not just with action, but in editing. He understood classic film composition and iconography. And he knows what BADASS is. The folks behind this STAR WARS: THE CLONE WARS movie… you could tell, they looked at what Genndy did – but they didn’t understand any of it. There’s a ****load of battles and ***** going boom. There’s noise everywhere – fury everywhere… but none of it is directed. The music by Kevin Kiner is criminally bad. Why they didn’t employ Paul Dinletir and James Venable is beyond me. No, no – let’s hire the composer of WALKER, TEXAS RANGER. Ahem. Now – I made excuses for this film as I was watching it. I don’t think you understand how much I love STAR WARS. Maybe you do, maybe you do too. Before the movie started I was firing myself up to go out after the film and buy that new $200 Hasbro Millenium Falcon. I really wanted to go buy it, and I wanted this movie to empower my brain to go through with that. Instead, I found myself at home – putting on Genndy’s THE CLONE WARS – to try and rebuild my passion – so I can go get that new Falcon. Instead – I’m thinking I’ll just be here at home enjoying this and that’ll be all I need. Anyway – as I was watching the film, I was excusing the sloppy shots, the sloppy use of the Clone Troopers and Droids – undoing all the awesome work that Genndy had done – and the droids are silly again. The Clone Troopers are limp. And the Jedi – they’re at 25% power from the mind of Genndy. But I was accepting that. I figured that was Lucas dialing back so that the animated series wouldn’t overpower his features. Then they introduced Baby Jabba aka Rotta the Huttlet aka Stinky. At the point of this character’s introduction – it officially became, the worst character in the history of STAR WARS. If you hate George Lucas cutsiepoo bull**** – oooooooh boy. You’re gonna have a field day of venting and hatred directed at this unbelievably ****ing awful little ****. Oh – but wait… Little Stinky the Hutt isn’t the worst character in the history of STAR WARS… because Stinky got introduced earlier in the film. As much as I hated lil Stinky… I was weathering Stinky. I seriously was. But later there was a character of such immense **** – offensively bad. The character was so bad, so incredibly awful – that it was a slap to the face. It woke me out of my ****-accepting stupor and made me angry. SUDDENLY my “inner fanboy rage” was awoken. As I watched this terrifyingly awful character named Ziro the Hutt. A seemingly female Hutt – with tattoos and make-up that sounds like a racist take on a Black New Orleans Crack-Dealing Whore. Because this Hutt speaks ENGLISH – and it is many times worse than I’m actually describing. This character was actually too much for me. So bad that every flaw I was looking past, was now a road sign to inadequacy and mediocrity. All of a sudden my brain realized that Asajj Ventress’ voice no longer was acceptable – and sure enough – the amazing Grey DeLisle, who originally voiced the character back in 2003 – had been replaced by a Nika Futterman – and that voice was missed. The character didn’t have that snarling menace anymore. I realized that nothing in this animated film felt right. I felt time expanding. It seemed that the film was dragging – nevermind that lots of **** was firing all over the place – and stuff was going boom and things were being revealed. I just didn’t care because this wasn’t what I wanted. I hated the score, the animation, the shots, the characters and most of all the retarded ******** idiot story. I hated the film. HATED IT. REALLY HATED IT. Does this mean the whole Star Wars Animated Series is doomed? No – but it isn’t a good sign. So much of this is awful because of the Hutt plotlines and character. I also feel that Dave Filoni must be a hack. His work here is sloppy – and depending on writers and directing talent – individual episodes may be better. This film was several episodes all strung together – my prayer is that the individual episodes will be both great and awful – and we’ll discover which talents are responsible for each. That said – the audience did have light applause. My father liked it. My sister felt too much was going on. Me nephew really liked it. That said – Yoko was complaining right along with me. She thought it was **** too. I know Moriarty liked it. Wonder what Quint and Massawyrm thought. ****. I hated a STAR WARS. That ****ing sucks.”
The Disabilities People are not just Retarded...
by fiester
Aug 11th, 2008
03:46:15 PM
...their stupid: their protest is giving this film massive buzz and tons and tons of free advertising. Everyone's going to want to see it now and it's going to be an even bigger hit. Their cause would have been better served just leaving it alone. Sounds like they went Full Retard and you should never go Full Retard, even retards know that.
Mister Knowles... A little advice
by billy_club
Aug 11th, 2008
03:46:31 PM
I think that AICN should establish a policy of refusing to even mention release dates of movies that have been embargo'd even after the embargo date has passed. The only movies that get the embargo treatment are largely shitcan movies anyway. Why support any studio willing to embargo a movie just to try to trick the public?
I cant help but get the feeling that
by emeraldboy
Aug 11th, 2008
03:46:34 PM
all this bruhahahahahahah is all viral marketing. Harry youve been had. They did it before to drum up support for a mediocre monster movie by JJ abrams and yes I did see cloverfield and yes it was very mediocre.
Wasn't the Ringer endorsed by the Special
by Samuel Fulmer
Aug 11th, 2008
03:48:24 PM
Olympics? How can this be anymore offensive?
USA today is chiming in on the Harry embargo
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
03:50:35 PM
can't wait until AICN posts an article about it... oh, wait...
ooooo, giaro, you are so getting banned!
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
03:54:35 PM
irrelevntelefant
by Giario
Aug 11th, 2008
03:56:56 PM
If so it was worth it. Free speech and fuck Lucas yo.
The Ringer was funny.
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
03:58:39 PM
But mostly for the cheese factor.
Oh Poor Harry...
by biggles2_22
Aug 11th, 2008
03:58:56 PM
...I'm laughing at your ongoing "thing" with Lucasfilm. It's pretty amusing when you can't post a positive review of Phantom without getting shredded by your fanboys, and you can't post a negative review because you'll lose your secret Lucus decoder ring with built-in access pass. Dude, I can totally understand what you're going through. Consider it a compliment that you've been put under such scrutiny. Really! Truly a damned if you do and damned if you don't scenario. Might I suggest avoiding Lucas-related reviews in the future? Just some friendly conservative advice from a conservative who will not engage in political discussions with your TB'ers (or you for that matter). After all if you engage in an argument with a retard, you both end up looking retarded.
we'll speak of you fondling, giaro...
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
03:59:39 PM
and when lucas calls you into court, ask him how he determines where to trim his beard, see as he has no fucking jawline or chin to indicate where to shave....
I just went FULL RETARD on this girl's ass
by fiester
Aug 11th, 2008
04:00:28 PM
She loved it.
"Embargo the Geeks" is the new "Nuke the Fridge"
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
04:02:11 PM
sites now covering the embargo
by ArcadianDS
Aug 11th, 2008
04:02:24 PM
here's what i've found so far:

vally-news.com

usatoday.com

metroactive.com

hollywood-newsroom.com

Nancy Grace should cover the Embargo tonight
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
04:04:48 PM
Just went to usatoday..
by Cotton McKnight
Aug 11th, 2008
04:05:43 PM
And this is still a mystery. Lucasfilm chose an embargo? What are they, the trade federation? I don't get how they can "choose" to do anything here, unless they actually own the site (maybe this jives with that "harry sold the site" rumor a few months ago).

In any event, the graphic showing Harry Knowles and Greedo with a caption that reads "Going somewhere, fat boy?" is hysterical.

USA Today "Pop Bitch" on Embargogate
by Cedar_Room
Aug 11th, 2008
04:07:51 PM
USA Today article:

http://tinyurl.com/578stp

So he can't get into future Lucasfilm projects. So what?
by Cotton McKnight
Aug 11th, 2008
04:08:53 PM
There are tons of people that do, and they will e-mail you their reviews. This is all about wanting to play with the latest toys and get all the cool stuff. And a trip to the ranch every once in awhile. If Harry was a congressman, he would be thrown out of office. Oh I forgot he is a liberal. Business as usual.
Dr Remulak?
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
04:11:54 PM
Nelson?
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
04:13:14 PM
HIRSCH
by Giario
Aug 11th, 2008
04:13:30 PM
fartman90039
by chuffsterUK
Aug 11th, 2008
04:13:49 PM
Please fuck off,you cock.
Full Retard
by herow/1000faces
Aug 11th, 2008
04:14:10 PM
My older brother is mentally handicapped. People call him "retard" to his face at the grocery store or shout "fucking retard" at him as they drive by. He knows what it means and it hurts his feelings. He would never say anything mean to a stranger not because he's not smart (he can be mean when he wants to!) but because he generally doesn't like to hurt people. I don't know why people think it's okay to use the words "retard" or "retarded"...maybe because they hear big stars like Ben Stiller or Robert Downey Jr. saying them on a 2-story movie screen or read it on AICN all the time and they think it's not a big deal. Who knows? I don't think it should be cut from the film, they can say what they want, it just strikes me as irresponsible to use it in the first place.
... GE JUDY
by Giario
Aug 11th, 2008
04:14:39 PM
Giaro, Hirsch... nice one!
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
04:16:50 PM
Kudos for Nelson I.E.
by Giario
Aug 11th, 2008
04:19:16 PM
what happened to Mirajeff
by BrightEyes
Aug 11th, 2008
04:20:28 PM
?
glad they're not making cuts
by Freakemovie
Aug 11th, 2008
04:21:27 PM
I admit to using "retard" occasionally. The problem is, pretty much every downbeat word you can think of is disparaging to somebody. I stopped using "gay" after high school because there's just no way to justify it. Gay is not also a synonym for stupid (as numerous people have since tried to tell me), that's just plain wrong. So then I move onto "retarded" until I realize it's essentially just as bad. From there I get to "lame," which I really like, but even that technically stems from mockery of the disabled. Heck, I used "idiotic" above, that probably offended somebody too. I'm trying to be P.C., but let's face it, in today's vernacular it's fucking tough. Maybe I should just love everything and never say anything bad.
Because negative buzz is exactly what hurt the prequels.
by Larry Sellers
Aug 11th, 2008
04:22:39 PM
Lucasfilm has lost credibility. They can't afford to lose anymore unless they already have your money (even though they know it was theirs the second they released the trailer). It's just childish. You know what producers of shit movies do? They don't screen the film before the release date. If you have no confidence in the film, don't let anyone even have the opportunity to say something negative about it. Unless you want to enforce an "embargo" and look like a bunch of assholes. Their actions are more negative towards the film than any of those reviews.
nukedthefridge
by BrightEyes
Aug 11th, 2008
04:23:32 PM
your site is even worse then the most terrible movie site Chud. I especially liked that post about how the Dark knight was going to "Nuke the fridge" HAHAHA.
Herow/1000 faces..
by Cotton McKnight
Aug 11th, 2008
04:24:09 PM
are you serious? Where the hell do you live that people actually do that?!?!? Good gosh I thought that we were all more civilized than that. As for "retard"- I have disconnected the word from it's derogatory meaning.. at least as it pertains to a segment of our society. I probably shouldn't, though. Sorry about your brother, man. Nobody should have to endure that kind of teasing.
I wouldn't call a mentally handicapped person retarded.
by fiester
Aug 11th, 2008
04:26:56 PM
I reserve that word for people who act like mentally handicapped people when in fact they are not--those are the true retards. Most just act a little retarded. But every now and then someone goes FULL RETARD and then all hell breaks loose.

You never go full retard, man, you never go full retard.

HR Giger's Alien creature smells like Gruyère cheese
by Pacino86845
Aug 11th, 2008
04:29:25 PM
No joke, I have verified this empirically!
This Whole Embargo thing is a sham..
by CharyouTree
Aug 11th, 2008
04:32:32 PM
to get the focus of the Scriptgirl TB the other night.
spamming the thread is lame sauce, dude
by ArcadianDS
Aug 11th, 2008
04:33:17 PM
what are you trying to prove here?
Ban fartman90039 because:
by Pacino86845
Aug 11th, 2008
04:35:24 PM
1) He hates cheese 2) Hates Star Wars Clone Wars 3) Made hateful comments towards Script Girl's anatomy 4) Hates love and freedom and liberty and doves
you never go full retard-to-mouth...
by havocSchultz
Aug 11th, 2008
04:37:10 PM
Respect the curds... Tame the cheese!!!
Speaking of Free Speech...
by Rando Calrisian
Aug 11th, 2008
04:38:10 PM
As was posted in another talkback, USA Today Online posted an article Y'all should read.

http://tinyurl.com/578stp
Free cheese?
by Pacino86845
Aug 11th, 2008
04:39:14 PM
We all want that!!
Whats the Cheese?
by travis-dane
Aug 11th, 2008
04:40:13 PM
Cheddar!
Retard is such a gay word.
by Larry Sellers
Aug 11th, 2008
04:40:26 PM
What kind of a dick-licking fag calls the mentally challenged retarded? Whoever does is truly gay. Balls deep gay. Like total FAG. No, I'm not homophobic. I love homosexuals. I hold absolutely no hostility towards their way of life. Homophobes are retarded.
gaaaaa
by CharyouTree
Aug 11th, 2008
04:41:16 PM
this site takes longer to load than PureTnA
Slowdowns are occurring...
by Pacino86845
Aug 11th, 2008
04:43:12 PM
because some asshole told the internet there was a free cheese tasting event happening here.
are there retarded midgets?
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
04:44:06 PM
Lucasfilm and Warner Bros.
by THE TRUE PINBACK
Aug 11th, 2008
04:45:04 PM
I sincerely hope that there are people from these organizations reading what is being written here today. I, for one, appreciate what the reviewers say-reagrdless of if it is positive or negative. They HAVE NO BEARING on whether or not I see a movie. I make up my mind about that long before I start seeing reviews. But it is WRONG to have pulled the review to begin with. WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT THESE DOUCHENOZZLES THINK?!?!?!? Reagrdless of the circumstances here, Harry should have stood up to these retards (HI TROPIC THUNDER!!!) and left his review on the site. I've read it, and I am still planning on seeing the movie. If you want this site to have any semblance of legitimacy, you have to make these studio fucks know that YOU are in charge, not them. Hold the middle finger up high to them and let them know that their threats-whatever those threats may be- are empty and meaningless, not only to you, but to all of us who frequent AICN. DO NOT SELL OUT TO THESE PRICKS!
Slowdowns...
by Rando Calrisian
Aug 11th, 2008
04:45:06 PM
Occuring because someone from Lucasfilm probably uploaded a virus to AICN.
I thought all midgets were retarded
by Pacino86845
Aug 11th, 2008
04:45:23 PM
and furthermore had an aversion to brie.
hahah
by CharyouTree
Aug 11th, 2008
04:45:26 PM
haha cheese!
Let's Cheese it out then....
by travis-dane
Aug 11th, 2008
04:47:15 PM
I like my Cheese to get mouldy!Tasty...
Amen, True Pinback
by Rando Calrisian
Aug 11th, 2008
04:47:29 PM

by CharyouTree
Aug 11th, 2008
04:47:58 PM
My name is tallulah My first rule of thumb I don't say were I'm going Or where I'm coming from I try to leave a little reputation behind me So if you really need to You'll know how to find me my name is tallulah I live till I die I'll take what you give me And I won't ask why I made a lot of freinds In some exotic places I don't remember names But I remember faces Lonelyyyy You don't have to be lonely Come and see Tallulah we can chase your troubles away (ohhh) If your lonely You don't have to be lonely When they talk about Tallulah You know what they say Know one south of heaven's gonna treat you finer Tallulah had her training in North Carolina my name is tallulah and soon i'll be gone an open invatation is, the road i'll travel on i never say goodbye because the words upset me you may for give my going but you won't for get me
For more on Harry and AICN...
by Jobacca
Aug 11th, 2008
04:49:34 PM
Read the book Superman vs Hollywood. Puts Harrys X-Men 3 review in a whole new light....
fartman90039
by kwisatzhaderach
Aug 11th, 2008
04:49:37 PM
why can't spammers ever think of anything amusing to say?
Cheese
by CharyouTree
Aug 11th, 2008
04:50:41 PM
Cheese is a kind of meat A tasty yellow beef I milk it from my teat But I try to be discreet Ooh, cheese. Ooh, cheese.
What about this censorship?
by catlettuce4
Aug 11th, 2008
04:52:17 PM
Both reviews of Clone Wars
Hillary Clinton invented cheese
by Pacino86845
Aug 11th, 2008
04:55:01 PM
just before she assassinated the emperor of Afghanistan in 1903.
Lucasfilms ass-raped my freedom of speech. Twice.
by Uncle Stan
Aug 11th, 2008
04:56:31 PM
The Passion of the Cheese
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
04:56:34 PM
The passion of cheese

Like a butterfly you can transform

Finding your inner self through cheese

Brie

Chevre

Gruyere

Munster

Learning the love of cheese

Learning the love of you

Finding your inner cheese

Creamy

Tart

Dry

Moist

What kind of cheese are you?

What kind of butterfly are you?

Lucas raped my freedom of cheese
by Pacino86845
Aug 11th, 2008
04:57:49 PM
that's why it's got holes in it.
The Last Temptation of Cheese
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
04:58:16 PM
A mind elixir, Held in anticipation The yearning to have it, Now, there, anywhere. Breathing the sharp and sometimes sweet scent. The first kiss of excitement that spills down the spine.

Lucky tongue gets the first contact, teeth letting go. Surrounded in a process of melding, a bite or not. Embraced by the wonder of oneness...... Something for every want, be it subtle or intrusive.

Soft and pungent, crisp and sweet. Feel the headiness, let go and enjoy, laugh. A taste of English Cheddar with Apricots, blueberries. Without bounds, Dive in to a Divine cheese.

Salty cheese balls!
by Pacino86845
Aug 11th, 2008
05:00:12 PM
No kid's lunch box should be without 'em!
To the Reader
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
05:00:16 PM
Dear Lady, I beg you To cook as you please, But don’t overlook the Importance of cheese!

As a casserole topping All bubbly and brown, It will make your fine cooking The talk of the town.

As a spread for a sandwich Or a puffy soufflé It will help you to cope On your busiest day.

Its tang and its flavor Will tempt and will tease; ‘Most all of your dishes Can be sharpened with cheese!

Most of these talkbackers seem...
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
05:02:20 PM
to like salty balls, Pacino. I don't know about the cheese though. Maybe they should try The Zone.

Less hate, more cheese.

READ THE CLONE WARS REVIEWS HERE
by Freakemovie
Aug 11th, 2008
05:03:08 PM
It's on Google Groups but it should work: http://tinyurl.com/5ctjs9
Full Retard...
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
05:03:50 PM
Is nothing like the full aroma of Limburger. Sweet nectar of the Gods...
Clone Wars?
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
05:05:04 PM
Doesn't hold a candle to THE PROVALONE WARS.
Start a cheese war without me,eh?!
by BuckminsterOhare
Aug 11th, 2008
05:05:17 PM
Your mother was a hamster,and your father smelt of Edlepiz.
you guys are all cheesetarded...
by havocSchultz
Aug 11th, 2008
05:05:38 PM
You never go full curds...
Just To Repeat - Repeat, Repeat...
by loserguy3000
Aug 11th, 2008
05:05:47 PM
Hey Guys,

I'd invite everyone to take another look at my earlier post about embargoes, as some of what I said has come true...in short order! Genius prediction or simple logic? I'm not smart enough to have formulated anything worth talking about, but at least I could recognize what was going to happen...

This game Harry played has spilled out into the mainstream, and Harry's cowardice has been put on full display to the world. There's dozens of reviews for Clone Wars - negative or positive - posted by those unafraid of losing their backstage passes to a company like Warner Bros. In retrospect shying away from their bleats and whinnies looks as ridiculous as it sounds.

For all Harry's rants over the years about the Bush administration being bastards and suppressing people, I hope his readers get a good, long look at how such a thing (if it does ever come to that) can happen. Fear from the masses over nothing. I've learned that after years of patronage, Harry cares more for himself and his swag than the opinions and feelings of his readers. I'm not sure I can take this lack of respect so easily anymore, and unlike Harry - and other editors - I can't rationalize and take what I've been given.

So goodbye Harry, and goodbye AICN. This once-proud fun site has become too parasitic and tied to the masters of the industry to appreciate as innocent and free anymore. Its run by a coward with no regard for his readers, and his sycophantic editors who'd rather insult readers than listen. So Harry and Moriarty, all the best in the future, but I sincerely hope you fail...
I'll take The MIDNIGHT CHEESE TRAIN!
by travis-dane
Aug 11th, 2008
05:05:49 PM
Got Milk?
You need to go FULL CURD
by Pacino86845
Aug 11th, 2008
05:08:22 PM
if you have any hope of making a decent poutine.
Just To Repeat - Repeat, Recheese...
by havocSchultz
Aug 11th, 2008
05:09:06 PM
Hey Guys, I'd invite everyone to take another look at my earlier post about Emmental...
Mouse!
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
05:09:58 PM
There's nothing quite like a piece of cheese to nibble upon for pleasure and ease. No matter the time or state of mind greater joy than cheese you'll never find. Served on a cracker or a soft piece of bread a morceau de fromage will please your head. Roquefort, camembert, brie or blue served with fruit or in fondue God gave us cheese- a bit of heaven on earth to lift our burdens, providing sweet mirth. And after all our daily work is done we enjoy simple cheese just for fun. But remember the ancient custom of the house leave behind a kernel for the nocturnal mouse.
clone wars review
by disfigurehead
Aug 11th, 2008
05:10:25 PM
Hola all. Massawyrm here. A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away life was good and a movie named Star Wars rocked our god damned faces off. But those days are gone, in their place an endless stream of merchandising not meant for the average consumer, but the hyper specialized fan who still to this day must own everything and anything properly branded with the Star Wars logo. The inmates run the asylum now as Lucas long ago stopped listening to his soul as an artist - his heart as a storyteller – and has since begun listening to the slavering fanboys who cry themselves to sleep at night with their Darth Vader backpacks clutched close to their chests lest they separate it from their beating hearts. He’s long since stopped working with the geniuses of old, replacing them with young, idealistic artists who revere him as some sort of living Man-God and long to carry on his legacy rather than forging their own. He’s forgotten that the most important duty you have to your fanbase is not to give them what they want – but instead to give them what they REALLY want. Do the fanboys REALLY want a bunch of scenes of characters whose destinies we already know fly through a series of dogfights so their pretty ships can go PEWPEWPEW against lifeless moronic droids so incompetent you question the tenacity of anyone that would put them into service let alone fight a war with an army of them? Do the fanboys REALLY want to spend the next 20 years of their lives arguing that the movies they love don’t, in fact, suck the hair off of a nutless monkey? Do the fanboys REALLY want an animated television series not written for 30-year-old men, but easily amused 8 year olds on Saturday morning between bites of soggy Corn Puffs? Because that’s what they’re fucking getting with The Clone Wars. This. Is. Shit-ty. Everything that was wrong with the prequels is wrong again here. There’s not much reason to dredge out all those complaints again. The Prequels aren’t actually Star Wars movies. They’re Fanfic. Bad fanfic that tries to include every element you love about Star Wars without actually using those elements the way they were intended. And while some might argue that it can’t be fanfic if the original creator is involved, I would counter that the creator in question died a long time ago. In a galaxy far, far away. As an artist Lucas is entirely bankrupt, no longer able to conjure a single, tangible, original idea. And unlike other artists in his situation, he isn’t able to properly recycle the ones he had to begin with either. No, Star Wars is an ailing, dying beached whale of a property, too large to ignore but left too long in the sun to save. And the stench is unimaginable. So leave it to television writers to sit down and come up with a classic solution to lagging ratings. Their genius booster shot in the arm of suckdom? A plucky tween girl sidekick who keeps getting herself into trouble while being delightfully precocious and calling Anakin Darth fucking Vader himself Skyguy. Again. And again. And again. Every time this 14-year-old little monster opens her mouth to say something “witty” my jaw went slack and my eyes rolled into the back of my skull. She’s unbearable, absolutely excruciating to watch, and yet she finds herself in almost every scene of the film. She’s around so much I half expected her to pop up in scenes with the emperor or the Hutts, just stumbling into frame while saying something “cute” like “Oops, wrong door,” or “This isn’t the shuttle bay.” Seriously, the only way she could be any more annoying is if she added the word MEESA to the beginning of every sentence and BOMBAD to the end of it. You beginning to feel me? I get that they might be working towards a Luke Skywalker type transformation, but that doesn’t replace the fact that A) her very presence makes me want to punch the person nearest me in the face repeatedly and B) she will not, ever, play a part in the mythology of the original films or the fanfic prequel films at all, unless Lucas goes back in to tinker with them AGAIN. So odds are she will meet a bitter untimely end sometime later in the series, like randomly slamming into an asteroid like the Han Solo clone from Shadows of the Empire. If and when that happens, I MIGHT tune in. If I don’t just youtube the scene. Again. And again. And again. Then there’s the unending problem of putting characters in peril that we already know the fates of. Look, George. Having Anakin and Count Dooku have a dual ISN’T EXCITING. We already know what happens to Dooku. He died on screen YEARS AGO. We know he doesn’t die at the hands of Skywalker. Nor does Skywalker get so much as a scratch from him. We know this already. So why devote so much time to it, unless you’re completely out of ide Oh. The party’s over guys. The only one’s left here are the folks who haven’t realized it yet. I’m sure the Star wars fan forums are going to be aflutter with the revelations that Dooku once fought Anakin or that Anakin actually once went back to Tatooine, or that Jabba has an Uncle that - unlike other Hutt’s - sounds like a bad New Orleans piano player. But for the rest of us? This is just another episode in a long line of attempts to charge you for something you loved as a kid. I mean honestly, how much shit would we be giving Coppola if he had greenlit The Further Adventures of the Corleone’s? Because that’s what this is. Will I be watching the series? After an hour and a half of being bored to tears? Not on your life. That path leads only to fear and anger, and we all know that once you start down that path, there is no turning back. If you WANT this to be good rather than KNOWING it will be good, odds are you’re gonna be in the same boat as myself. This is no better than the Prequels. Scrub that hope out of your heart now. Until next time friends, smoke ‘em if ya got ‘em. Massawyrm
I'm confused
by ShoNuff86
Aug 11th, 2008
05:11:31 PM
I can pretty much say over the past 10 years that I've more or less agreed with every review written by Moriarity and Harry, so I feel pretty ashamed of all the negativity. Harry said Journey 3D sucked because it in fact sucked hard. James Mason and H.G. Wells were probably rolling over in their graves together. Aintitcool is still my favorite movie site and probably always will be.
no its okay to call mexicans filthy dirty immigrants
by BrightEyes
Aug 11th, 2008
05:12:00 PM
but don't you dare think about saying anything negative about script girl. I'm mexican by the way, this site is getting more absurd by the hour.
Massa, Harry- Go rub your nutsacks on Lucas's drums
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
05:12:07 PM
On second thought...
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
05:12:14 PM
fuck mice. More cheese for me.
Poutine...? Or Not Poutine...?
by havocSchultz
Aug 11th, 2008
05:12:34 PM
Grater (as in cheese grater) in french is Râpe... So George Lucas grated my childhood!!!
The Hutts of Star Wars fame
by Pacino86845
Aug 11th, 2008
05:13:26 PM
are actually a highly-evolved form of space-cheese... it'll all be explained in Clone Wars!
Mexican?
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
05:13:31 PM
How about some QUESO?
HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LIBERALS OR PC
by smackfu
Aug 11th, 2008
05:16:34 PM
I don't know if you neocon doucebags have noticed or not, but 99% of the people complaining about the use of the word 'retard' are parents of mentally handicapped kids who are ultra sensitive about it because their kids come home crying every day because other kids call them retards. Well, tough shit. Kids are brutally cruel, if the kid wasn't retarded he would have been called 'fag' or 'lardass' or 'ginger freak' and come home crying anyway. This isn't about Political Correctness or liberals, it's just about pissy parents who think that one word that points out their kid is foolish is somehow different than another that means the exact same thing.
Haiku for Cheese!
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
05:17:18 PM
Mmm... Mozzarella.

Stringy orgasm of cheese.

Happiness is here.

script girl reminds me of a New Foundland stripper
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 11th, 2008
05:17:34 PM
I've got some Venezuelan Beaver Cheese...
by havocSchultz
Aug 11th, 2008
05:17:39 PM
that's turning blue...
*Hand Wave* "You saw no Clone Wars review."
by Flim Springfield
Aug 11th, 2008
05:18:26 PM
Interesting fact.
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
05:19:23 PM
George Lucas based the design of Yoda's head on a slice of bad cheddar he found at the back of his fridge.
Dont say anything negative...
by havocSchultz
Aug 11th, 2008
05:20:34 PM
...About MontereyJacksRevenge either. Never mention the fact that hes fatty and tastes like swiss cheese's douchebag...
Havoc
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
05:20:36 PM
Did you catch my Venezuelan Beaver Cheese reference earlier? I'm sure you know the source. No one else took a stab at guessing.
script girl reminds me of a New Foundland stripper as well...
by havocSchultz
Aug 11th, 2008
05:21:54 PM
Lots of cottage cheese...
The logic in that CLONE WARS review...
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
05:21:56 PM
had more holes in it than a slice of Swiss. CHEESE, that is.
kevinwillis.net
by Dingbatty
Aug 11th, 2008
05:22:07 PM
Yes, you represent all conservative Christians.
I'm sooo certain conservatives wouldn't be up in arms over a dark comedy about the troops in Iraq depicted as gleeful baby-killers, or a movie about John McCain being a Viet-Cong sleeper agent. Give me a break.
Speaking of strippers...
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
05:23:26 PM
Anyone ever "make it rain" with slices of American cheese? Bitches be making it clap for that shit, yo!!!
Nacho...
by havocSchultz
Aug 11th, 2008
05:24:58 PM
Would you like some of Peckinpah's Rogue Cheddar...?
Dingbatty...
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
05:25:56 PM
What do you know about Christian conservatives? I bet you don't even know their preferred cheese. Amateur.
Honestly,
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
05:27:47 PM
I'd like to just rub cottage cheese all over my body, especially over my genitals. Where it's most hairy. Mmmm... let it stagnate for a while. Talk about aroma!
Only try to understand...
by havocSchultz
Aug 11th, 2008
05:27:52 PM
There is no cheese...
Then....
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
05:30:07 PM
what was I rubbing on my genitals?!?!
This talkback is...
by BuckminsterOhare
Aug 11th, 2008
05:32:51 PM
full-blown ricotta'd.
Personal boogeymen.....
by Darth Macchio
Aug 11th, 2008
05:34:55 PM
personally...I don't see liberals as being that threatening. "don't say 'retard' you meanie!!" oh yeah? what are you gonna do? throw tofu at me? shake your finger at me? and right-wingers? pasty old people who ride butt scooters after 50? I can easily outrun those things! lucas could afford to hire the world's greatest hitman to kill people. but I've got balls of steel and will be happy to call all his work since 1983 complete and utter shite.

but, mainly, i just wanted to post some drivel in this thread. oh and to wish I was clever enough to have a screen name that would get people to mention it on tv. that would be sweet!! i'd probably get some free stuff too! SWEET!

ScriptGirl needs to go back to stripping...
by fiester
Aug 11th, 2008
05:52:29 PM
Along with Diablow-job Cody.
Darth Macchio
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
05:56:47 PM
You may have balls of steel, but, more importantly, do you have balls of cheese?
Macchio, as always
by samsquanch
Aug 11th, 2008
06:04:10 PM
you are a breath of fresh air.
Welcome to the future...
by jdb1972
Aug 11th, 2008
06:06:14 PM
...you, my friends on the left, have created. Enjoy!
All this LEFT and RIGHT crap...
by Nachokoolaid
Aug 11th, 2008
06:08:15 PM
and in the MIDDLE... those with the power of CHEESE. BEHOLD!!
Protest != banning free speech. Protest = free speech.
by Baked
Aug 11th, 2008
06:50:17 PM
It's like assholes think only assholes are exercising their rights and anyone who complains is infringing. And most black people, including the NAACP, didn't give a crap about C. Thomas Howell in Soul Man as far back as the 80's -- it was poignant comedy then just like it is now.
They are picketing in West Wood Cali.
by spectrebeeyatch
Aug 11th, 2008
06:52:46 PM
I plan to see this movie a lot now. And even when I go see other movies I will pay for Tropic Thunder. PC ass clowns need to shut their retard mouths.
Mentally Handicapped vs Retarded
by Yeti
Aug 11th, 2008
07:24:43 PM
Mentaqlly Handicapped - a person who is born with or develops a deminished capacity to reason, think logically, learn from mistakes.

Retarded - a person who has full mental capabilities but seldom or rarely uses them (also see dumbfuck)

I'VE GOT THE NEED ... FOR CHEEZ
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 11th, 2008
08:24:03 PM
Whiz!
WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THE GAY RETARDS?
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 11th, 2008
08:36:35 PM
Thoughts? Suggestions?
I Think The Gay Retards Should go To Gay Retard Discos
by LaserPants
Aug 11th, 2008
09:04:21 PM
And bad touch each other consensually.
Stupid
by SuckLeTrou
Aug 11th, 2008
09:07:58 PM
This is the stupidest thing I have ever read on AICN. (Not including talkbacks.) Harry, you clearly have no understanding of free speech and censorship whatsoever. They had the right to make their film, and people who found it offensive had the right to condemn it. THAT is free speech. Magazines and websites willingly making a corporate decision to avoid media controversy HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FREE SPEECH AT ALL. Just like the decision to pull your review. The right-wing seems to have so perverted and misused the "liburls hate free speech" meme that even liberals are buying into the retarded mis-use of it. I'm not saying the protesters aren't overly sensitive or out of line, but give me a fucking break. By the tone of this piece you'd think Cheney was putting members of the press into a gulag. It's a fucking movie, and culture changes as it evolves. You don't see pro-KKK movies coming out of hollywood studios; NOT because it is illegal to say or create such a thing, --it's not illegal, Hate speech in and of itself is not illegal in most cases. Regulatory bodies, often VOLUNTARY in the media, such as the MPAA self-censor to tailor themselves to their own market, the society they exist in. Those films don't exist because society will not stand for it and once upon a time, people complained about such portrayals in media, just like these people are doing. Using a free speech argument in this way is just dumb and self-defeating. I'm very disappointed to see it here.
Society is just full of dumb, ultra-sensitive whiners...
by OgreYouAsshole
Aug 11th, 2008
09:22:30 PM
who too often get their way. Chalk one up for the silent majority this time! Hopefully the trend continues because I'm fucking tired of it.
politics equals shit
by halberd
Aug 11th, 2008
09:56:07 PM
Politics is the most ridiculous thing to have come into existence.
Well, at least there is the red...
by Gearfree
Aug 11th, 2008
09:56:09 PM
band trailer. There is a few segments of the Simple Jack movie near the start. The only problem is that you might have trouble finding it. http://tinyurl.com/58do3h
I think they take things on too simplistically.
by Lobanhaki
Aug 11th, 2008
10:19:31 PM
They try and prevent all offensive speech, and they only end up making it forbidden fruit.
Silver Lining
by a rolling stone
Aug 11th, 2008
10:35:26 PM
At least they didn't force Stiller to make RDJ take the black make-up off. People understand it's not the offensive "black-face" of yesterday, and that is a big step for this country. I think no matter what you say, there will always be idiots who zoom in on two or three details to nit-pick and complain about. They'll never enjoy the forest view, on account of all the damn trees in the way.
SG
by a rolling stone
Aug 11th, 2008
10:39:09 PM
And speaking of free speech, I thought ScriptGirl was a waste of time, but she never really bothered me. Not until the massive recall of TBs and multiple bans "in her honor". Now she's a waste, and she bothers me. I'd rather watch a Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants marathon than pay her another ounce of attention.
When Lucas dies Timothy Zhan will be hired
by ganymede3010
Aug 11th, 2008
10:47:32 PM
To write the Heir to the Empire Trilogy! (Fanboi wishing and speculation)
It's just a movie....
by JERRY HORROR
Aug 11th, 2008
11:10:23 PM
...Ya' know? It's not like a pointless war that young men and women die everyday for. I say screen TROPIC THUNDER FOR THE TROOPS! In fact, send them bootlegs. Or donate a portion of the gross profits to the disabled. www.myspace.com/jerryhorror
WHEN DID PISSING OFF THE STUDIOS BECOME AN ISSUE???????
by J-Dizzle
Aug 12th, 2008
12:29:08 AM
Now AICN has been online for many years, and my memory may be fuzzy on this so correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Harry pissing off the studios left, right, and center long before he was invited to these early screenings?

I mean the WHOLE REASON AICN was so notorious was because Harry dared to take on the wrath of the Hollywood Suits and post many things which angered these same suits. Now, all Hollywood has to do is click its fingers and Harry complies.

In the words of the Joker: "I mean, what happened? Did your - did your balls drop off?"

Its the studios own damn fault for not making Harry sign a confidentiality agreement. What are they going to do if Harry keeps the review up? Not invite him to any screenings? Harry didn't give a rat's arse back then, why care now? It doesn't make any sense.

Reuters refers to Downey Jr's role as "blackface"
by Darth_Inedible
Aug 12th, 2008
12:38:02 AM
http://news. yahoo.com/s/nm/20080811/people _nm/blackface_dc Oh Reuters... Shamelessly flogging their tiny PC liberal dicks for attention.
Who cares...
by Motoko Kusanagi
Aug 12th, 2008
12:40:08 AM
...when AVATAR IS FUCKING OUR EYEBALLS IN 2009!
J-Dizzle
by BrightEyes
Aug 12th, 2008
12:42:39 AM
So well said. This site use to stand for something.
To those who seem to relish using the word retardid
by TerryMalloy
Aug 12th, 2008
01:44:25 AM
There is a book, called "The Dictionary". In this book, there are printed the entire collection of words used in the English language. I suggest opening one up someday in order to find a more appropriate, interesting, insult. For instance, I could call you a "mugwump" Nazifucker. In a way, that is much more offensive. And certainly more creative.
TERRYMALLOY
by J-Dizzle
Aug 12th, 2008
01:50:34 AM
Its spelled R-E-T-A-R-D-E-D. Perhaps you should use a dictionary once in a while too. :p
PWNED
by TerryMalloy
Aug 12th, 2008
01:51:41 AM
"Nuke the Fridge" is the old "I just got off the phone with"
by ironic_name
Aug 12th, 2008
02:16:24 AM
in that it won't take off.
Harry has a beer and cheets on his retard..
by Bootskin
Aug 12th, 2008
03:14:18 AM
Wow. The Ass-hattery continues eh? Mori, the sand in the vagina comment was pure comedy. I love you.
harry gotta eat wolfman's too silver nards!
by ironic_name
Aug 12th, 2008
03:59:59 AM
What the fluck is a retardid?
by mrfan
Aug 12th, 2008
05:26:32 AM
I will have to get a dictionairy to find out.
Wonder why I haven't been banned yet?
by classyfredblassy
Aug 12th, 2008
06:49:17 AM
Have I not been offensive enough? Do I need to try harder? Now fuck off....
Darth_Inedible
by LaserPants
Aug 12th, 2008
07:50:46 AM
Well, um, it is blackface -- a white actor playing a black man. The difference here, and as the article makes quite clear, its supposed to be a satire of actor narcissism, not a jab at blacks. It appears one of the running gags in the movie is how racist it is, and how oblivious the actor is to it due to his narcissism. Do try and actually READ the articles that cause the knee-jerk neocon bile to rise in thine throat before spewing your several lunches all over your floor about it, thanks!
This is fuckin' retarded...
by screamster101
Aug 12th, 2008
08:02:35 AM
Johnny Knoxville can make a movie playing a mentally handicapped person, but Stiller can't??? WTF?!?!? They better not change a single frame of this movie because of this shit!!!
WhinyNegativeBitch
by screamster101
Aug 12th, 2008
08:23:22 AM
Good point about it being a pile of shit. The Ringer was a steamer... By NO WAY is Stiller being malicious in this film. NOR will I go out and laugh in a mentally handicapped person's face after watching this film. (Well, unless they say something funny.)
simplejackmovie.co m is gone?!?!?
by screamster101
Aug 12th, 2008
08:41:02 AM
They removed it?!?!? I visited that site everyday for a good laugh and now IT'S GONE?!?!?! tuggspeedman.co m even removed the simple jack link!!! *CRY*
What other offensive hate terms are OK now ?
by m_prevette
Aug 12th, 2008
08:56:57 AM
Come on Harry...can we say chink now? Kike? Darkie? Wop? Fag? Slant? Gook? Funny that free speech is defended on one side but not the other. What a joke...
As the father of an autistic child...
by whofan71
Aug 12th, 2008
09:24:59 AM
I personaly can't wait to see this movie. I've seen the RDJ "retard" speech scene and think it is hilarious. There is a difference between making a harmless joke in a movie and actually being mindlessly cruel to someone who cannot help the way they were born, and I seriously doubt thats the spirit or intention of the Simple Jack character and references in the movie.
whofan71.. Exactly!
by screamster101
Aug 12th, 2008
09:38:02 AM
Simple Jack is a rip on actors that have potrayed handicapable people in the past. It is NOT on hadicapable people in general. This is NOT malicious in any way, shape, or form. My cousin is in a special school. This movie does not offend him at all. So why should I be offended? We will both be first in line to see it. SO "F" OFF ADVOCACY GROUP!!!
If people can say retard, then people can protest it
by runfoodrun
Aug 12th, 2008
09:38:52 AM
That is free speech, we can all take a side and defend it, so no, free speech is alive and well Harry! Grow up, just because you can only see one side doesn't mean it's the only side...
Can't we all just get along, retardedly?
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 12th, 2008
10:04:03 AM
Nuke the Retard!
by irrelevntelefant
Aug 12th, 2008
10:06:59 AM
So can a retard call another Retard a Retard?
by cookylamoo
Aug 12th, 2008
10:09:46 AM
You know, like give each other a high five and say, "Yo, my Retard"
Let's face it, once you're on the PC Toboggen
by Andre the Frog
Aug 12th, 2008
10:15:11 AM
And you sail past the N word the C word and the K world the next bump is
Let's face it, once you're on the PC Toboggen
by Andre the Frog
Aug 12th, 2008
10:16:59 AM
And you sail past the N word the C word and the K world the next bump is the R word and it doesn't stop until you can't call a person a Jerk or a Moron.
Fucking retards
by dr sauch
Aug 12th, 2008
10:49:12 AM
the sad part is, freedom of speech works both ways.
mac or pc
by ironic_name
Aug 12th, 2008
11:08:05 AM
irrelevntelefant, we are.
by ironic_name
Aug 12th, 2008
11:08:55 AM
here's how retarded this website's management is
by ArcadianDS
Aug 12th, 2008
11:14:32 AM
instead of waiting a few weeks to screen Clone Wars without any embargo, they attended a very early advanced screening WITH embargo. They could have waited for the later non-embargoed screening and posted a review for us like all the other sites did - the ones who said to the studio, 'screw off your embargo, we'd rather wait a few more weeks and y'know, do our jobs.'

instead, the geek-led AICN said, "Screw our readership, we want to see the movie RITE NAO!!! and agreed to not actually do their jobs in order to see this movie super-duper early.

thanks for putting yourselves first, guys. After all, its you that pay the bills for the site, amirite?

Schools’ peanut bans spark backlash... COME ON PEOPLE!!!
by screamster101
Aug 12th, 2008
11:19:01 AM
Parents against the ban have an unlikely ally, a food allergy advocacy group... MSN has the article. Read it and weep. I declare a new advocacy group... The "Shut The Fuck Up If You Don't Like It" Group. Anyone else want to join?
Give us some more "Hilarious" Black Stereotypes Anchorite
by G100
Aug 12th, 2008
01:12:56 PM
Anchorite
by toadkillerdog
Aug 12th, 2008
01:18:00 PM
Your words "If that's the case, most likely you are LOOKING for things to be offended by. You WANT to be offended so you then have something to rail against, to protest and to condemn. Because your life is that fucking meaningless otherwise."

If that aint the pot calling the kettle black.

Robert Downey Jr. Agrees with some of you...
by Francis Begbie
Aug 12th, 2008
01:45:14 PM
U.S. disability advocates kept their promise and staged a protest at the premiere of Ben Stiller's latest movie Tropic Thunder.

The film, which also stars Jack Black and Robert Downey Jr., has been slammed by 22 disability groups in the U.S. for its repeated use of the word "retard" in association with one of its main characters Simple Jack.

And demonstrators showed their distaste for the movie by picketing the Mann Village Theatre in Los Angeles on Monday night insisting the film "humiliates people with intellectual disabilities".

Stiller, Black and Downey Jr. walked the red carpet amid shouts from angry protestors who were waving placards urging cinema goers to boycott the movie.

Despite the negative reactions to the picture, studio bosses have denied it is offensive towards people who suffer from mental disabilities.

A protestor at the event tells the BBC, "We feel that the use of the word 'retard' throughout the film 15 or more times is done without any regard for the dignity of people with intellectual disabilities."

But Downey Jr. took time out on the red carpet to defend the film, telling reporters he was glad people had decided to picket the premiere as it was their right as free citizens.

He says "That's the great thing, you know, if I want to protest something because it offends me that's my right as an American and it's also any artist's right to say and do whatever they want to do."

Thats from IMDB's horribl excuse for a news section by the way.
by Francis Begbie
Aug 12th, 2008
01:46:05 PM
Um...Not to burst your bubble WhinyNegativeBitch
by Iowa Snot Client
Aug 12th, 2008
01:48:21 PM
You say, "...But retard is not an offensive hate term." I have a friend with Down Syndrome who is very offended by "the R-word" (as she calls it). "Colored" (and even "black") used to be in standard use too, but it was deemed pejorative and "African-American" adopted as PC. The only reason people still use "Retard" is because they know the PC police won't bust 'em for it, while "Nigger" is a guaranteed fine.
By the way, the term is "RETARDOS"
by OBSD
Aug 12th, 2008
02:37:39 PM
I can't believe nobody on this board has brought up that episode of Space Ghost. Best Episode EVER. "We moisten your dreams with man-urine".
I'm as liberal as they come,
by OBSD
Aug 12th, 2008
02:47:12 PM
And I hate these PC fucks with the hatred of a thousand white hot suns. They have nothing to do with the progressive movement, they're just a bunch of fucking cowards who afraid of putting their ass on the line to affect any real change so they whine about the correct terms to call someone. I had a boss who was the most pretentious PC fuck ever. Every time I'd talk about a female, I'd say "this girl", and he would interrupt "you mean WOMAN?" Here's a guy that sells porn comics to people and jerks off to pictures of girls getting spanked in front of customers and he's acting high and mighty like he's a defender of feminism. Fuck that guy. And fuck all of the PC motherfuckers. Right in the ass.
I know a lot of people that are seeing this movie...
by mrfan
Aug 12th, 2008
03:14:24 PM
regardless of the protests that it is getting. Many of the people I know work in special education or have a special needs. They think the trailer looks great and are looking forward to seeing it. A friend of mine, that is now a special education instructor, went with me to see Something About Mary. Laughed his ass off especially with Matt Dillons speech on retards.

I have to agree with what Robert Downey said. They do have the right to protest. Also, Tropic Thunder deserves to be seen in the way it as meant to be seen uncut.

WhinyNegativeBitch , my mistake
by m_prevette
Aug 12th, 2008
04:38:19 PM
I thought you were burning in hell. Damn. Too bad. Fucking low life
PC liberals protesting w/o seeing this movie =
by gavdiggity
Aug 12th, 2008
05:21:16 PM
conservative Xtians protesting Last Temptation of Christ w/o seeing that.

An uptight asshole's an uptight asshole, regardless of political affiliations.

Censorship/PC
by DennisMM
Aug 12th, 2008
05:31:25 PM
PC does not belong to the left. It belongs to anyone who screams because they think their holiest of holies are threatened by words. That's people and groups all over the political spectrum. However, I'll forgive any group their foolishness over unpleasant language if that group supports action I support. I don't like words like "retard" and "ni**er." Even so, I believe in one's right to use those words when they're not being used indiscriminately or deliberately to hurt people, so I dislike broad attempts to silence those who would use such words. But if a group wants to ban the word "retard" and supports gay marriage, for example, they've got my backing. I'll never support the right to speech over the right to action. Thank you, Republican Party, for a fine example.
So, Anchorite,
by DennisMM
Aug 12th, 2008
05:37:39 PM
Shit ...
by DennisMM
Aug 12th, 2008
05:42:12 PM
I look like an idiot there ...

Seriously, Anchorite - proportionally, how many attempts to block free speech or performance or freedom of publication do you think have come from the left as opposed to the right? Ask the ACLU and you'll see. The ACLU takes on cases from both left and right, mainstream and extreme - it sued Skokie, IL, to allow the Klan to march - and overwhelmingly, freedom of speech and access have been challenged by the right. Ask the American Library Association, while you're at it.
It's funny...
by vicvoom
Aug 13th, 2008
12:34:51 AM

by vicvoom
Aug 13th, 2008
12:39:17 AM
why don't these idiots ever get mad about those shitty Friday the 13th movies? Those movies have been making the mentally ill look bad for decades.
Sticks and Stones
by dumbpeoplesuck
Aug 13th, 2008
01:29:06 AM
Will break my bones, but words will make you protest me. This country's not maturing. Instead, we're keeping babies children until they grow old and die. First, realize growing old, and growing up are two totally different things. Then, grow up, get over it, stick out your chest, and move the fuck on. Bunch of self-righteous assholes. Hitler might even be proud of the way the world is turning. Ban this word, ban that word, using *fill in the blank* is a hate crime; quick, burn all the books and films you can find that have 'those' words in them.
Oh, you say, who the fuck am I? Look, I got called plenty of names when I was a kid, on through school, and even beyond. I've survived, and I probably owe it all to Looney Tunes for fucking me up enough, early enough, to not fucking get my tit in a ringer when someone recognizes me for the asshole that I am.
Honestley...
by whofan71
Aug 13th, 2008
07:24:40 AM
It's just the same knee-jerk reaction that we see all the time. The example that comes to my mind is "The Last Temptation of Christ." I mean, c'mon. I'm a Christian, and I was pissed at all the people who protested that movie without ever having seen it or read the book it was based on. They heard a little propoganda, taken out of context, and boycotted the movie based on misinformaiton. Freakin' retards!
The problem is, these advocacy groups do have a point...
by Dragon Man
Aug 13th, 2008
07:52:22 AM
One of the issues they're having with this movie is that there are some lines and references that are going to go right into the public consciousness. Terms like "Full Retard" are already making their way into the speech of people on this website, like Massawyrm in his review. I haven't seen the film yet but I do think that it's supposed to be satire and that Hollywood is supposed to look like a collection of douches. But that will one of the unintended results of this film being successful. You'll hear people everywhere using "Full Retard" and it'll become a catchphrase, which is hurtful no matter how you slice it. Having a couple of relatives who are handicapped, I can't help but sympathize in that regard.
Not much of a point, though
by kiwiblackm
Aug 13th, 2008
10:28:16 AM
Is it that bad to call someone insane? Isn't that unsympathetic to those with schizophrenia or post traumatic stress? How about the word "idiot?" Is everyone going to get their knickers twisted because it might offend those who can't do simple math? It's not their fault they're naturally born that way either.
I see your point, kiwiblackm
by Dragon Man
Aug 13th, 2008
10:52:29 AM
I guess the difference for me is that in this specific case, the group that's affected is one that is so innocent and needing of goodwill from people. Not that clinically insane people aren't deserving of sympathy, but this group is in my opinion even more so. On your point about the word insane, that word has a clinical connotation that's been overused. In the case of the word retard, that's an offshoot of the word retarded which has no use or place in our vocabulary.
Dragon Man
by kiwiblackm
Aug 13th, 2008
10:58:18 AM
Yeah, I also see yours; I remember kids being unbelievably cruel to other retarded kids when I was young, and by no means do I think that's okay. I just feel the crawling sensation of political correctness with this issue. And thanks for being so civil. Oh, and Hate-Speech, on the subject of Harry's Clone Wars review - just go over there and bitch about it. I can't believe how wound up people are.
@ whofan71
by gavdiggity
Aug 13th, 2008
11:16:41 AM
Thank you for backing up my point. I'm a lefty, but when I hear people like this protesting a movie they haven't seen, I get pissed.

I heard the guy who's leading this "crusade" on NPR yesterday, and he admitted that he hasn't seen the movie. When the woman interviewing him asked him about comparing the use of "retarded" to "nigger," he said that if they had been using the N word instead, the movie never would have been made. Apparently he's never seen Blazing Saddles. Which, to be fair, probably WOULDN'T get made in today's climate of over sensitivity.

Fucking busybodies...

The word "insane" ...
by DennisMM
Aug 13th, 2008
12:34:09 PM
has nothing to do with developmental disabilities like Down Syndrome or even mental illnesses like schizophrenia. "Insane" isn't even a scientific/medical word. It's properly used only in legal matters, to describe a state of mind that voids responsibility for a crime. There is no such thing as "clinically insane," because insane is not a clinical diagnosis.

I have a mental illness - bipolar disorder - but I'm not "insane." Almost no one is "insane" because of the flawed manner in which the word is defined by the legal system. That's why the verdict of "guilty but mentally ill (or deranged)" was created in many states.

Pet peeve of mine. Carry on, thanks.
And while we're at it ...
by DennisMM
Aug 13th, 2008
12:35:09 PM
let's use "schizophrenic," acurately, shall we?

Thanks for your input, anchorite.
H-S, pal?
by DennisMM
Aug 13th, 2008
12:46:58 PM
You are so banned.
Correction
by DennisMM
Aug 13th, 2008
02:16:30 PM
Don't know how I screwed this up. The ACLS fought for the right of the Nazis to march in Skokie, IL, not the Klan. This was the genesis of the "Illinois Nazis" joke in "The Blues Brothers." Once my head worked and I remembered these things the first time.
Anchorite, may I offer your own words on the Dixie Chicks on Nov
by mjgtexas
Aug 13th, 2008
04:58:54 PM
Why? Because the leftists say so. Don't you get it? They stood up and told their views to the world without fear of consequences. Isn't that heroic? Of course, when the hammer of consequence came down (HARD!) on them, they were shocked and dismayed, embittered and enraged. Why? Because they realized (too late) that the bulk of their fanbase liked them for their musical talent, not their political stance. They cried foul when radio stations stopped playing their music. The left propped them up as martyrs for the cause. But what else should have happened? Should the radio stations have lost untold millions in ad revenue because Natalie Maines decided to speak her mind and make unpopular sentiments in a foreign country? No matter what the leftist propaganda states, her Free Speech rights were NEVER impeded. To this day, she can say whatever she wants about Bush and the war in Iraq. But the bulk of Americans didn't want her comments to be representative of their own feelings, and some of them got pissed off and acted reprehensibly, writing nasty threats to the Chicks. Is that why the Dixie Chicks are supposed to be heroes? Because some pissed off country fans wrote angry letters or made death threats? If that's the standard for heroism in this country, then surely George Bush is the most heroic of all. Or perhaps Dick Cheney or Karl Rove. Maybe this is what happens when you don't believe in God. You find people like Noam Chomsky or Natalie Maines or Bill Clinton to idolize. The problem is, they aren't worthy of the adoration. All the Chicks have managed to do is to come across as bitter, mean-spirited musicians who have the mistaken impression that their thoughts and feelings are more important than that of their fanbase. Which, by the way, has become mainly left-leaning democrats. And Canadians. Kind of hypocritical from your rants the past two days, no?
I would just like it to be known
by Dr Gregory House
Aug 13th, 2008
10:43:08 PM
that I am not prejudiced against retards. Some of my best friends are retards. That is all.
Not being able to say RETARD is just GAY!
by Particularly Hard Vato
Aug 14th, 2008
02:26:28 AM
In fact, it's the gayest gay thing I have ever gayly gazed upon! Gay!
This *was* going to be a rental...
by Sightblinder
Aug 14th, 2008
05:40:44 AM
But fuck it if I am gonna let some dickless wonder with no sense of humor tell me what to watch. Congratulations, this kinda shit from the religious nutbags got me to go see Golden Compass too. Fuckin' retards.
Robert Downey jr. went full Niger you never go full nigger!
by goon80
Aug 14th, 2008
09:23:34 AM
Downey is correct of course.
by Andre the Frog
Aug 14th, 2008
10:04:20 AM
The true artist must say fuck you whenever anyone tries to curb his freedom. Otherwise you're not an artist, you're a panderer.
Free Speech goes both ways.
by DEX
Aug 14th, 2008
01:10:24 PM
I saw an advance screening of Tropic Thunder and I get that they're making fun of Hollywood - I am on Ben Stiller's side. These advocacy groups have just as much right to protest it, though. If they want to remind us that certain language is hurtful, that's ok. Just a casual glance at the hateful Talkbacks, and even the title of this article shows us that they have a point - that you don't want hate language entering popular lexicon. People (generally white males) like to slam political correctness but if it makes stupid people think about choosing their words more carefully...
what all the people of the world need to realize
by smackfu
Aug 14th, 2008
03:40:44 PM
is that there is no such thing as good words and bad words. It's all made up, in your head. And if you get upset when people say certain words...that is a mental defect on your part. That is you being so used to something by sheer repetition you've accepted it as the truth and lost all ability to look at it from any other perspective.
It's kind of like this
by smackfu
Aug 14th, 2008
03:49:05 PM
in the UK 'shag' is considered a raunchy, offensive word similar to 'fuck'. Basically in Britain, they see an Austin Powers poster as reading 'The Spy Who Fucked Me'. But we don't, it's not an even remotely offensive word to us, it's just sophomoric along the lines of 'poop'. The reason for this is simply because they *believe* it's an offensive word, and we don't. So if your offended by words like nigger and retard, it's simple because you believe their offensive. And it's up to you what you believe. So stop believing it's offensive. And you'll never be offended again. Problem solved. Do you have free will, or don't you? Right. So any offense you take to anything in life, is YOUR problem, you're CHOOSING to be offended by it, so stop blaming other people for something you CHOOSE to do.
This movie.....
by emeraldboy
Aug 15th, 2008
11:17:14 AM
just opened and a 7 million dollar opening is not great. Meanwhile beating this at the box office is Pineapple Express which took in 12 million dollars. To qoute Father Ted Crilly and Dougal Maguire. " careful now!" "down with this sort of thing"!
I have a developmental Disability
by emeraldboy
Aug 15th, 2008
12:09:34 PM
and saw The ringer. Which I thought was a mixed bag. I enjoyed it untill they got to the special olympics HQ. from then on i disliked the movie intensly. Spitting image was my fave show growing up as was scrap sat on the radio and i was a huge fan of rory bremner, though I find his stuff has gotten stale. Anyhoo, Tim Schriver creeps me out and what I got out of The ringer was that Special Olympics despite the invaluable work they do are unbelivably patronising. Louis walsh had abuse verbally hurled at him when he said that the only people to get anything out of Special olympics ireland where polticians trying to get thier names in the paper for phot ops. Walsh then said that his mother had been involved in special olympics for twenty years in co. mayo. Tim Schriver creeps me out and I find the whole special olympics organisation to be patronising. Though as Chair person and cofounder of the adult support group in irelands Dyspraxia Association and as someone who was been involved in that Association for the past 6 years. We will possibly need to meet with them, talk to them about raising awareness. We will see. If robert downey jnr has no idea what batman the dark knight is about. Its about a Wealthy man who dresses up as a bat and beats the shite out of crims. Confused, robert. Well, i seem a very wealthy actor who dressed up as wonder Woman? Who was that again? Joking......
SmackFu
by IceCreamSoldier!
Aug 15th, 2008
02:39:20 PM
I hope you never have to learn empathy for this particular situation the hard way, and that you can continue to live in ignorance.
Ridiculous
by KirkLazarus
Aug 16th, 2008
07:43:27 PM
Anyone boycotting or protesting obviously has not seen the movie, because the issue is shown in such a broad, comedic manner that there is no way to be genuinely offended by it. People really need to get a clue and/or lighten up.
Harry Goon80 and Smackfu are assholes
by JaySmack
Aug 18th, 2008
08:48:33 AM
So the NAACP having better things to do than protest this movie's modern-day blackface routine is somehow a "healthy sense of humor?" You say that like it's a sign of progress that blackface isn't assaulted from every corner. Yes, I do believe that makes you an asshole. Enjoy your crown. In a perefct world you three worthless fucks would be piled on each other Abu Ghraib style and then flayed with a line of barbed wire.
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